Thread 508452687

Why was Iran unable to intercept them? They are subsonic even unloaded and basically prop-plane speed when loaded. They are huge and easy to visually spot. They have IR signature. Iran has S-300 AA systems they purchased off Russia just a few years ago. The US announced for days we were coming.

How did they fail to intercept? A lookout with some NVGs was all you needed.

>>508452687 (OP)
the worlds a stage

>>508452687 (OP)
Lots of Iran's equipment was destroyed and at night those things are not easy to see. GGEZ

>>508452687 (OP)
the US military is 30 to 40 years ahead of every other nation
doesn't matter how you emotionally feel about that, its just reality

>>508452687 (OP)
Stealth actually works, ziggers BTFO. Also
>what is SEAD

>>508452897
>US military
Doesn't exist, it's the Israeli military at this point

>>508452687 (OP)
They fly very high

>>508452687 (OP)
The same reason they let Israel attack, they are baiting them into war.

>>508452687 (OP)
who cares if this thing can't even destroy the Houthis then it can't destroy Iran

>>508452687 (OP)
>S-300 AA systems they purchased off Russia
There's your problem. Shitty russian shit.

>>508452943
whatever you want to call it to cope, it is still decades ahead of any musloid or russian or chinese military

>>508452687 (OP)
They had a watch man.. but the mf was looking for planes coming from the other way smdh

>>508452943
one and the same. more btfo'd muslims, the better

>>508453056
>Iran wants to be bombed more

>>508452687 (OP)
money spent 100%
betrayal of your electoral base 100%
nuclear facilities damage 0%

good job trump

>>508453500
Who is begging for a ceasefire?

>>508453423
>haha muslims btfo'd!
>*moves more muslims in to the west*
>haha
>>508453340
That's fine, I don't know why you're bragging though. Do you think that army is fighting for your interests?

>>508452687 (OP)
>Iran has S-300 AA systems they purchased off Russia just a few years ago
Most of the Iranian long range AA capabilites were destroyed by daily IAF DEAD sorties.

>>508452687 (OP)
They probably could and thats why US contacted them and announced action with promise they wont topple regime

>>508452687 (OP)
>The US announced for days we were coming.
There's your answer. Someone tells you in advance they are bombing you so you move everything and then let them waste money on bombs.

>>508452687 (OP)
>visually spot
they struck at night didn't they?, and they'd have next to no radar footprint.

>>508453668
Dunno, is blowing up people who scream "death to America" in American interest?

>>508453668
>Do you think that army is fighting for your interests?

yes private trans sucks my balls personally every night

>>508452687 (OP)
erm, well they don't call them stealth for nothing, so i doubt they would be using them during the day

>>508453766
Iran doesn't own a pair of NVGs?

>>508453056
LOL. "You keep fucking me in the ass like...4 or 5 more times and eventually I'm going to get really upset!"

>>508452687 (OP)
They had close to 100 jets escorting them in.

>>508453340
>decades ahead
Well you are right in a way. The US will only attack countries that are decades behind its military technology.

>>508452687 (OP)
Even worse they saw them coming on flight radar.

>>508453709
Brownoid cope is reaching levels unimaginable before.

>>508452687 (OP)
they probably had nobody looking out until it hit them and after that probably nobody looking out because they thought it might be some drone strike or something. but in the end your army stands and falls with it's morale and discipline and i imagine that iran's army is low morale and discipline.

>>508452687 (OP)
no operational S-300 or S-400
also there were f-22 as spear head in case some radar woke up

>>508454511
not low morale since they unironically think the closer they get to death the closer they are to 40 teen virgin pussy

>>508454658
desu you gotta wonder if Muslims start doubting their religion's truth when Israel walks all over them.
If Islam was true then surely Israel wouldn't keep winning every confrontation with Muslims.
the US wasn't even helping them in 1948 or 1967 the US actually arms embargoed both sides then.

>>508454498
you are coping jew
CBS site before operation
choose to ignore i dont give a fuck stay mad jew and get invaded by ziggers next

>>508453866
I think the current iteration of America is terminally infested with kikes. Do you think Iran would hate us if we weren't a complete golem to kikes?

>>508454876
like if your holy book predicted that the Jews were going to tear you a new asshole the way Christian eschatology predicts Christians will be martyred en masse and the world fall to wickedness before Jesus returns that'd be one thing but Islamic eschatology predicts Islam will conquer the world and destroy the Jews (which is part of how you know it's a religion designed to back the Antichrist)

>>508454298
>so mad he sages the thread

>>508452687 (OP)
>why was iran unable to spot the most advanced stealth bomber currently in use

Why is pol full of fucking retards?

>>508453668
>That's fine, I don't know why you're bragging though.
because it's fun to mock retarded ziggers who are perpetually wrong about everything.

>>508452687 (OP)
>radar can't see them
>they are black and fly at night at 50,000 ft
>they leave no contrail
>they are basically silent until they pass overhead

>>508453866
blood thirsty euro barbarians entering the chat.

No, I dont think that is a good thing because I am a civilized human being.

>>508452687 (OP)
They push the button and engage their electrogravitic drive

Op are you a fucking retard? It’s a fucking stealth bomber. It’s the most advanced stealth craft in operation. And it was used at night.

>y dint dey see da plane tho

>>508455139
>ziggers
Those people still in Ukraine?

>>508452687 (OP)
>Iran has S-300 AA systems they purchased off Russia just a few years ago.

Israel destroyed most of those last year and mossad finished off the rest last week

Also: it doesnt matter how advanced your AD system is if you have 80 i.q arabs operating it and organising it

You could give iran the entire inventory of the US air force and they would still lose

>>508452923
>Stealth actually works
I don't know how people fall for the "stealth doesn't work" meme. Russia doesn't have air superiority in Ukraine because they can't into stealth. Meanwhile the US was regularly bombing Syria when it was covered with S-400.

should've hired Serbian AA operators

>>508455522
Syria never had s400

They had a few s300s the russians “loaned” them that were exclusively manned and operated by the russians. They were never used in combat and basically sat as a deterrent not to bomb assad

Any S300s they have remaining are shut down and hiding. Turing on their radars would be a death sentence.

>>508452687 (OP)
They knew they were on the way, the facilities were evacuated, America saves the day.jpg and Israel's destiny is as it always was.

>>508452687 (OP)
they could intercept ONE Israeli jet since the bombings started and you think they could shoot down stealth bombers?

>>508452897
>>508452943
This. The United States Army attacked our white communities and our committing white genocide against us and using niggers and Mexicans to destroy our nation.


>>508453423
This is a kike/zogbot


Ask them to prove they are a real user and they won’t know how anons did that and they won’t do it. He will just report to personal attacks instead because truth is not on these (((Jews))) side.
Americans borders are wide open and our nation is now 50 percent foreign invaders.


Until the army declared war on non whites they aren’t my peoples army


We are enslaved by (((Jews))) in America

>>508452687 (OP)
Because kikes destroyed Iranian air defences beforehand. It's slow, large, has IR Radar signature that is easily tracked. The S-400 radar can track a small bird sized object 400km away. And no bird flies at 900km/h.

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>>508452687 (OP)
retard, just because Serbniggeria managed to shoot down 1 F-117 by luck many years ago commie and thirdie shitholes think they can do the same thing to any Western aircraft with their broken rubbish.

>>508452687 (OP)
It’s almost as if everything is fake and gay! IVE SAID THIS FOR THE PAST 2 DECADES YOU DUMB NIGGERS.

FAKE
AND GAY

>>508454532
So that's what they meant by the support package. In any case S-400 can shoot down the F-22 too, so it comes down to who fires first. And there's no way the F-22 radar can detect the s-400 first to fire its anti-radar miidial.

>>508452687 (OP)
Radar cross section is less than that of a butterfly.

>>508452687 (OP)
They come with escorts that can one-shot pretty much anything that takes off with stand-off weapons.

>>508456502
They managed to hit 2 f117s, one downed

It wasnt “luck”, the serbs were unironically very skilled with the limited AA they had

>>508456580
It can if the S-400 is busy engaging drones

>>508452687 (OP)
>Why was Iran unable to intercept them?
>>508452755
>the worlds a stage
CHECKED
FPBP
/thread

>>508452687 (OP)
They fly too high like cowards. Air superiority is a meme for smooth brains anyway. It never won a war.

>>508456791
Air superiority won WW2

>>508455846
iran had them and deployed them in syria

>>508456940
Iran barely had 4 s300 systems delivered before israel destroyed them, let alone enough to deploy to syria. They received their first s300 in 2016

>>508452687 (OP)
>Why was Iran unable to intercept them? They are subsonic even unloaded and basically prop-plane speed when loaded. They are huge and easy to visually spot. They have IR signature. Iran has S-300 AA systems they purchased off Russia just a few years ago. The US announced for days we were coming.
>How did they fail to intercept? A lookout with some NVGs was all you needed.

>>508456649
it basically was luck+stupidity from the USAF
the F117s were flying hundreds of missions on regular schedules out of Italy
Serbian intel in Italy just recorded these so they established a pattern and were able to predict where the F117s would be at specific times
They then spammed the air with SA2s at the predicted time and got a 'lucky' hit
the Serbian radar operators didn't actually detect the F117

>>508452897
your glorious MILITARY is ONE THOUSAND years ahead of ANYONE

>>508452687 (OP)
so skippy... can I call you skippy? great!

anyways skippy, let me spell it out for you:
STEALTH
radio silence
decoy tactics
flying at night (painted black)
very quiet engines
low IR signature
very high altitude
iran's sam systems knocked out
can't launch fighters if they are blowed up, or don't know where to go.
iranians are morons

anything you don't understand must be easy eh ivan?

it's almost like you are being retarded on purpose or trolling.

>>508452687 (OP)
They're brown. Average IQ of 80 and 90 million people. That means given a normal distribution (which IQ follows) they would have like 3 million people with an IQ of 100, and maybe like 150k people with an IQ above 115, midwit level. Their entire nation is dependent on a few thousand people with IQ above 125, and I doubt any of them hold any power or work any critical jobs because it's a mudslime shithole.

>>508458190
>can't launch fighters
Won't launch fighters.

>>508455522
Yes. It's time to give us F-35 and destroy puccia for good.

>>508458258
Iranians are smarter than Pakis or Arabs though. Some decent research in my field comes from Iran.

>>508457859
Come on, anon. They worked hard and smart and shot one down. No need to deny them their victory.

>>508452755
Checked. This is it. We don't have countries anymore, just the illusion of them. It became so clear during Covid that we are already in a one world government. You have to be midwit or lower IQ to not see that in current year.

>>508452897
China

>>508458361
Sorry, honey. The USA has more pressing issues in hand. Israel is more important right now and always.

>>508452897
We have literal alien tech, there’s your answer. Anything you read about our weapon systems online doesn’t even explain .1% of what they’re capable of. We’ve spent trillions in R&D to the smartest people on earth.

>>508452687 (OP)

it cost more to fly those planes over to iran and drop bombs then it did for iran to build 10 new nuclear facilities
americans just dont realize it yet

>>508452687 (OP)
They fly high in the stratosphere. They can't be easily detected.

>>508458647
>posts photoshopped image

>>508452923
I was just looking at the radar cross sections of all of our aircraft. Yeah the B2 is “slightly” easier to spot than our other 5th gen aircraft but it’s still like tracking a large bird with radar. The F35 and F22 look the size of insects on radar.

>>508458361
Sorry Sweety, you should have taken the mineral deal. Now you’re seen by America as the untrustworthy bipolar girl we once dated, and we’ve since moved on to regime change in Iran for our mineral needs.

>>508453709
>you build a cool custom bike in the backyard
>a nigger comes over and announces he will steal it next week and he will come with his friends that will kill you if you try to stop him
>nigger comes over and takes your bike and leaves
I can't believe something like this can just happen

>>508458841
Do not bully ukranians they have suffered enough and now they are le ignored b4 Israel has more jews

Which was probably the plan all along de-jewify slavia so the world bankers didn't supported them

>>508452687 (OP)
It's not worth it to try to stop it when it had as big an escort as it did. Plus the Israelis have kept air superiority for the entire conflict's duration.
It's easier on manpower and equipment to just move all the shit you have in your facilities and let the US blow the buildings to smithereens.

A nation run by old men that believe 72 virgins are waiting for them with their gnarled nonfunctioning penises to bust the hymens in the hereafter. And yet these bastions of futuristic forward thinking can't detect planes.

>>508455522
>I don't know how people fall for the "stealth doesn't work" meme

Because a F-117 developed in the 1970s was shot down once in the 1990s. Therefore.odern stealth doesn't work. Nevermind the F-117 flew the same path night after night at low level and ground forces could hear it fly overhead and placed defenses to intercept it. It was poor mission planning, not a failure of stealth.

>>508452687 (OP)
Not to mention, China had radar ships in the area to tell them where they are.

>>508454876
So by your logic the kike book is true because they’re winning? Kek

>>508459990
>Ships in the area
Many of the nuke sites are hundreds of miles inland, Einstein.

>>508459834
Jews believe they will have the entire world as slaves

>>508453121
it isn't meant to destroy countries. it's meant to bomb specific targets with high accuracy and without being detected. it's very good at that.

>>508460129
it's more that Jesus was right than anything else.

>>508452687 (OP)
Because despite what Russian and Chinese shills tell you on Pol and Twitter, the U.S. Military is unstoppable.

>>508452943
Israel controls it but doesn't make it.

>>508452687 (OP)
>Easy to visually spot
>IR signature
These maintain virtually 0 radar signature and operate at extreme altitude. They can't be locked at operational altitude.

>>508456690
This is why the next gen 'stealth' aircraft will have wingman drones to take the hits like F-22s were used on this occasion. A lot of /k/ tards haven't appreciated the advances in radar tech. B2 is no longer a large bird sized RCS to a modern radar like the S-400, it's close to a small Cessna.

>>508459145
Except it’s not you Jewish cum guzzling Miga tard

>>508452755
>>508453709
Trump told them what they were going to bomb and when. Iran moved all the important stuff out of the facilities. Now the Iranians will strike something that looks very impressive but doesn't matter much. Then there will be peace at least until the end of Trump's term. Then Trump gets to brag how he achieved peace with only a few airstrikes, the Iranians will get to save face by retaliating, and the Jews know that Iran's nuclear program is either delayed for a while, or they will have to continue in a place that Israel can bomb without American bunker busters.

>>508452883
Cope

>>508462654
Doesn't matter anyway, the Israelis asked how they could help and Trump gave them a list of AA targets from US intelligence and had the Israelis wipes them out directly prior to the bombing run.

At that point you're basically invincible with your fighter escort even if you're flying massive B-52s that light up a radar like a Christmas tree.

Iran isnt scrambling fights because they know they are badly outdated and would be swatted from the sky before they could even react.

>>508452687 (OP)
i can see two options:
- they didn't expect planes to enter from the east, and most of their radar equipment is focused on the west towards the gulf
- it didn't actually happen, the only thing that hit these sites were cruise missiles launched from outside Iran

>>508452687 (OP)
The agreement was, Iran tells Tardzilla where he can drop a few bombs to please his pedophile blackmailers and they wont shoot down the planes. Win win, Tardzilla gets to please Israel and Iran gets to keep bombing Israel, everybody wins.

>>508454258
>Iran doesn't own a pair of NVGs?
NVG only work on objects emitting or reflecting light. While the B2 at altitude is reflecting light, it's not very much, you have stars washing out what you are trying to look at, and from the ground you have a few seconds to try and observe them. Also you need to watch the whole sky over a very large nation. It's possible, just unlikely.

>>508458926
So why couldn't you win in Afghanistan or Iraq?

>>508459160
i would be shocked if basically every country with radar technology isn't already using AI based algorithms to identify the patterns that stealth planes create. i am not talking about "chatgpt AI", i am talking about very simple models to detect patterns on a signal, something that machine learning excels at and has been mastered for more than a decade at this point.

>>508452687 (OP)
How high do they fly

>>508452755
60,000 dead Palestinians and you guys are like "hur dur DA WORLDS A STAGE"

>>508454258
I see fine in the dark without nvgs, wtf is wrong with people?

>>508455161
Shitskin tier explanation

>>508464146
>>508452687 (OP)
They obviously would hack their radar equipment. Any technology is controlled by Zionists.

>>508459834
They'd detect them if they were White Men. So much of what i see here, just a variety of literal shitskin cope methods -that avoid the terrifying elephant in the room. You can try, you can strive, you can make excuses but you're always going to fall short.

>>508464146
You would need to know the radar signature of the planes you want to train the AI against, and you would need a LOT of training data, so unless the USA was constantly flying B2's overhead then there would be no point to this system. AI needs lots of training data, it would only really be feasible in a place like Ukraine but even then you'd only be getting raining data on shite old aircraft like SU-25 that have well known radar signatures anyway.

Iran never had the radar signature of the B2 , and still probably doesn't given the USA was using electronic warfare along with Israel destroying any AA site even capable of shooting them down.

>>508464238
>muh 6 gorillion
May we see them? Hard mode: no AI or staged photo ops.

>>508452687 (OP)
Because they were never there. All battle damage is from sub launched cruise missiles. None is from MOPs.

>>508454370
That's literally every country on earth dipshit.

>>508454320
No the didn’t. Our air fleet was nowhere near position for that and our tankers needed for such an op are still state side.

>>508455846
Incorrect they were used once against an F-35I. This lead to the “bird strike” destroying an F-35, and Israel changing tactics to purely standoff munitions.

>>508455408
>80 IQ Arabs
Iran isn't Arab. They are Persian.

>>508452687 (OP)
probably because everyone that knew how to use those is dead and they don't even have proper leadership now that khamenei is hiding in his bunker

>>508452687 (OP)
you know the cool thing about all this?
it took those planes 18 hours to get there and bomb them.

this means that when trump was on tv telling Iran there was still time for peace, he knew they were coming, he was waiting for Iran to give up first, and they didn't answer.

>>508459892
Meat and the second f-117 hit by a Serbian missile that was using a new route, radio silence, poor weather to hide itself doesn’t count why?

Oh right you didn’t KNOW the Serbs tagged TWO stealth birds.

>>508463738
Option two. The craters are tiny. A MOP will leave behind a 40m crater not the 6m ones we see.

>>508452967
Do they soar like an eagle?

>>508465646
>american demon insists on historical identities when it suits his aims and geographic identities when it doesn't

>>508452687 (OP)
Because the US told them before hand. Fired at site that have been evacuated and sealed days ago.
It's all spectacle.

>>508454370
skill issue, get good

>>508464078
Because "hearts and minds" doesn't work. "Nstion building" doedn't word, and muslims are uncivilizable barbarians anyway.
Now, let me ask you a question. Please answer with a yes or no.
Do you think, that if the US adopted a R
strategy of annihilating every single living thing in either Iraq or Afghanistan, that it would be materially capable of doing so ?

>>508452687 (OP)
they get their flight path cleared of any AA defenses previously

>>508455021
Yes. Islam is incompatible with advanced civilization. They hated us a thousand years ago, they hated us 500 years ago. They hated us a century ago. They hate us now. They will always hate us. Kikes are completely immaterial to Islam's incompatibility with us, at least on a natural level.

>>508452687 (OP)
I'm pretty sure the US only had a stockpile of like 20 MOPs and Trump just used 14 of them without hitting anything. They know if they worked immediately because when they hit a nuclear site it leaks radiation. This is a 35 year old plane. I'm not sure they even care about intercepting it and if it's even relevant to war anymore now that it's out of the one unique bomb it had and that bomb didn't even work. The rest of the war is determined by economies of scale min-maxing missile and drone production for the specific details of the Iran-Israel combat theater. Even specific drone companies aren't even relevant here since it's just who can custom build drones out of specific components suited for this war like we've seen happen in Ukraine. Anything made by a defense contractor for general use is gonna be overbuilt in certain areas and under-built in others, and that is gonna waste a lot of money.

>>508455251
>It's bloodthirsty to kill people calling for the death of you and yours
Okay, well I'm bloodthirsty then

>>508452687 (OP)
>S-300 AA systems they purchased off Russia just a few years ago
s300 is trash. its maximum effective range against maneuvering fighter is 10, maybe 15 miles and against unmaneuvering airtanker maybe 30 miles. russian radars are so bad and iranian soldiers who operate them are even worse. i highly doubt they even spotted the strike team. probably thought it was low flying cruise missiles

honestly, have you ever spoken to muslim? their whole belief system is based on a book written by a literal pedophile who married 8 year old 1500 years ago. how the fuck will a person like that operate radar system that is advanced enough to spot a low observable airplane (even then artifacts are a thing)

>>508455522
>syria
>s400
Kys

>>508465852
>1st generation stealth from the 70s is the same as what we use today

>>508467145
you have a fragile ego.
imagine being bothered by what the mouse says about you.

>>508467102
The point is to destroy the main centrifuge bunker so that they are incapable of continuing to enrich more uranium.

I dont think the US wanted to cause a nuclear contamination incident.

If we were to bomb all of their uranium, it would effectively be making a dirty bomb and could be frowned upon if it were to affect a lot of civilians. Knowing how Iran operates they probably have all of the uranium underneath a hospital currently in the middle of Tehran. At that point they would basically be saying "I fucking dare you to bomb this, you'll kill tens of thousands via radiation sickness and make half the city uninhabitable".

>>508458647
Very low resale value on those things

>>508467539
>doesn’t know the B2 was designed in the 70s
>doesn’t know the f-117 has a 1000 times smaller radar cross section
You are an absolute retard. The most stealth aircraft ever made in history is the F-117. Those angular sides make it Uber stealthy but a bitch to fly. Thus all subsequent stealth aircraft trade some of their stealth away for vastly improve aerodynamics.

>>508468388
So Israel’s nukes are underneath a hospital in Tel Aviv? Good to know!

>>508452687 (OP)
Because after the first surprise strike against their AD, Israel bombed and droned their AD 8 days straight and only after you used your B2s

>>508452687 (OP)
Our jewish news celebrated that terrorist attack today and they claimed that Americans fooled Iranians by flying other planes into wrong directions

>>508469826
The angular shape was more a result of limited computing power.
Back in those days, they calculated the shape by taking slices called facets. Nowadays, they can slice much thinner and manufacture with even more precision.

Nevertheless, your larger point is correct.
We see this with the F-47 using less stealthy canards for better handling. (Presumably, having 86'd the vert stabs/empennage.)