Thread 508453050

>earliest followers of Jesus were Jews, some of whom didn't consider him divine, others thought he might be somewhat divine (but not God himself or the son of God)
>religion of Christianity formed 300-400 years after Jesus' death
>it distances itself from it's Jewish roots, scriptures and beliefs are full of contradictions
>Catholics and Orthodox worship icons, pray to saints and mother Mary, have various pagan rituals
>Christians committed some of the worst atrocities in history, despite their imaginary version of Jesus telling them "turn the other cheek = win"
>innovations in this religion happen all the time, and they have been happening since the beginning, God totally told those high-ranking old dudes in church what his plans are, and he didn't just do it that way since the beginning
How is this going to save the epic white civilisation again?

Christians are on the level of delusion of Talmudic Jews.
Literally random old dudes have been writing shit for many centuries, and their opinion matters more than what God supposedly said LOL.

I have a Christkike larper fatigue. Every thread they show up.

Also, here's a bonus fun video about orthodox christianity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQE908kEvbY&ab_channel=Bobby%27sPerspective
Not a pagan satanic cult at all btw.

>>508453050 (OP)
Don't care Yahweh killed 1 mil niggers>>508452763
you lost fagantrannie

>>508453326
These christcucks are trauma survivors pretending to be crusaders. They got absolutely skullfucked by Reddit-tier atheism a decade ago and never recovered—just slapped trad aesthetics and schizo memes over the psychic wreckage and called it a comeback. It’s not faith, it’s shell shock. Their whole online existence is a cry for help disguised as smug detachment. They didn’t outgrow the New Atheist era—they froze in it. Their identity is a scar tissue reaction to being publicly humiliated, intellectually pantsed, and laughed out of every debate by midwit redditors with neckbeards. And the worst part? They know they lost. That’s why they keep flailing—because accepting that would mean admitting they were never chosen, never wise, never anything but indoctrinated NPCs.

So they wage war on ghosts. Still posting basedjak "epic own" memes aimed at enemies that don’t even exist anymore, screaming at a version of atheism that died with rage comics and fedoras. They swing recycled arguments like rusty swords, desperate to rewrite the past where they got folded and forgotten. Their theology is rotted, their arguments are duct-taped cope, and their smug superiority is just panic with a smug filter. Every meme is a nervous tic. Every post is an echo of “please don’t humiliate me again.” It’s not a religion—it’s a psych ward running a LARP server. And the punchline is they think it’s powerful. They’re not soldiers of God. They’re broken toys, spinning in circles, still hearing voices from 2012.

>>508453050 (OP)
>>earliest followers of Jesus were Jews, some of whom didn't consider him divine, others thought he might be somewhat divine (but not God himself or the son of God)
Liar. They always believed he was God.
Jewish Christians who remained in Israel have the most indigenous Israeli blood out of any group around.

If you ask them, they will tell you that they always believed in Jesus.

>>508453050 (OP)
>Why do many believe Christianity is important for western "white" society?
because it's important for everyone.
>religion of Christianity formed 300-400 years after Jesus' death
secular scholarship (even skeptics) date the formal creed of 1 Cor 15:3-8 to 5 years after Jesus' death, so ~35 AD
>it distances itself from it's Jewish roots, scriptures and beliefs are full of contradictions
all alleged contradictions from the SAB are reconciled in depth here: https://www.contradictingbiblecontradictions.com/

>>508453386
i'd love to see the prompt you use.
do you tell it to go out of its way to not actually make arguments?

>>508453050 (OP)
>it distances itself from it's Jewish roots, scriptures and beliefs are full of contradictions
Literally a Jewish lie.

>>508453050 (OP)
>How is this going to save the epic white civilisation again?
Islam is a bigger threat to whiteness, to be frank. Islam is a theat to literally all peoples because it spreads its faith through rape murder. The modern Palestinian is a mix of Christian Roman woman raped by an Arab man.

**THAT SAID, JEWS ARE PERSECUTING CHRISTIANS IN ISRAEL.**

They're just not doing it as badly as the Arabs who raped Christian women. Instead, the Israelis government is trying to shut down Churches run by the indigenous Jewish Christians. Such as the church where Jesus tomb is kept.

>>508453050 (OP)
>It's part of Roman history
>It's a true story about an actual person
>The bible explains the problems in the middle East regarding Islam and Israel
>Moral lessons can be derived from all the bible stories, even children can learn to read and think critically
>He was descendant from King David
>Many people witnessed Jesus and his followers do miracles
>It teaches patience, kindness, humility, love, joy, peace, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control

These are universal truths that will save every race, not just "whites" (kek at the parentheses around white)

>>508453050 (OP)
We change based on what we do and how we react to what we experience. There are an almost infinite ways to act in any given circumstance. Most people are bastards who will choose to serve their own wants at the cost of others needs and this kind of thing keeps them in check so that civilisation can actually exist and so we don't evolve instead of devolve.

sunk cost fallacy and spiritual boomerism

>>508454765
Yeah, it's a part of Roman history, the destruction if you will and moral lessons about how guilty you have to feel about everything

>>508453050 (OP)
>Why do many
You mean jews?

>>508453050 (OP)
>Not a pagan satanic cult at all btw.
You’re just as dumb as any Christian

>>508457074
Sex is marriage.
That's how it was done in the old days of Hebrew faiths.
But then after many many centuries some cool guys in rome got together and crafted/modified a new religion, so now you need all this extra shit to get married.

Jesus was white.

>>508453050 (OP)
>white people have been christian for roughly 1500 years
>wtf why are you guys not pagan larpers like me
Grow up bro.

>>508457147
It is satanic and pagan by Abrahamic standards, by their own standards that they are contradicting.

>>508457383
in the old testament, marriage was a social, legal, and covenantal institution, not simply a private or physical act. while sexual relations were expected within marriage, they were not equivalent to marriage.

1: betrothal (kiddushin)
this was a formal agreement, often involving a bride price (mohar) paid by the groom to the bride's family. it was legally binding, breaking it required a divorce.
>Genesis 34:12 : Shechem offers a bride price for Dinah: "ask me as great a bride-price and gift as you will, and i will give whatever you say to me. only give me the girl to be my wife"
>Exodus 22:16-17 : if a man seduces a virgin not betrothed, he must pay the bride price and marry her, unless her father refuses

2: marriage ceremony (nissuin)
this was the actual transfer of the bride to the groom's household, often celebrated with a feast. only after this did sexual relations typically begin.
>Genesis 29:21-23 : Jacob says to Laban, "Give me my wife... for my time is completed." a wedding feast follows, and only then does he consummate the marriage

>it distances itself from it's Jewish roots, scriptures and beliefs are full of contradictions
Yet christcucklets universaly worship the jew. The recent strikes got only high praise from christians. Didnt even get a fucking peep of disaproval.

>>508458017
In biblical narratives, marriage is more than just a social contract but a profound metaphor for divine truth. As the the Church represents the bride of Christ.

[Jhn 14:3 KJV] 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, [there] ye may be also.

>>508457677
Go be a jew worshiper somewhere else

>>508458155
>In biblical narratives, marriage is more than just a social contract but a profound metaphor for divine truth
Jew schizo bable

>>508453050 (OP)
teaching people basic morals
social cohesion
helping the poor and desperate rejects of society
giving people a basic frame of a world view and how to conduct yourself
helping people conform and act in common best interest

now you don't necessarily need christianity for that
as HT (Handsome Truth) of GoyimTV taught me, this is basically synthetic tribalism

>>508458101
the iranian regime is bad and liberating iranians from it is a good thing.
persian people are amazing and the world will be a better place once they're no longer under the boot of shia islamic tyranny.

>>508458390
Lmao, uktards are being replaced and all they can do is seethe post. Sad! All western countries are full of muslims. They let you blow off some steam about le evil muslims but make no mistake you wont do shit the Muslims are here to stay.

>>508458575
Tell me youre a jew without telling me youre a jew

>>508453050 (OP)
You are free to do whatever you think, our inner law, or law of the Spirit, our obligations to it and judge are the same irregardless of what you confess, thus you will be fulfilling God's will either through your gain or loss.

>>508453050 (OP)
Christianity poses a big obsticle for fully flourishing of capitalism.
This is why Christianity is being deconstructed . they had been doing that for a very long time.

>>508458460
those things are nice, but they're surface-level benefits.
you can teach someone manners without giving them a reason to care.
what Christianity offers and what any serious worldview needs is grounding. it gives you a coherent origin, purpose, moral structure and destiny. that's not just "helping people act right," that's explaining why right exists at all. when you lose that, all those other things become fragile, temporary, and eventually negotiable.
people crave meaning.
>>508458825
>Tell me youre a jew without telling me youre a jew
i'm a brown haired blue eyed baptist.

>>508453050 (OP)
>Why do many believe Christianity is important for western "white" society?
Because those religions carried forward an important torch for humanity that became the basis of European success.

It doesn't matter that some jew died on a cross, it matters that people went about their lives with an IDEA of "perfect Goodness" to strive towards.

Just having that concept as a basis for saying, "Yes we can be better" is why Europe conquered the fucking world.
And we adopted those ways by LEAVING BEHIND our ways as celts and visigoths and whatever, which would have trapped us in aboriginal infighting forever.

>>508453050 (OP)
It's neither helpful or a problem. Arguing about it is just culture war bullshit.

>>508458825
I warned you, you will be sorry when Christ returns.

[Rev 16:9 KJV] 9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

Christianity is pro diversity anti-white pro Jewish Torah observant shekel grubbing, Jewish apocalyptic end times prophecy kike worshipping cult for retards

>>508453050 (OP)
Jesus wasn't even a real person, you dummies

>pic related

>>508460027
No it's not, that's a blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, the inner, normal and natural order of things.

For example having guests is awesome and a necessary thing, it brings us joy and excitement. However when a guest overstays the host will get grumpy and tired, the guests need to be going at some point because most of our time and attention is towards our family, that's the Holy, normal and natural law of things.

So neither racism or anti-racism are the right dialectic, they are both traps to make you miss the mark, to make you hate and suicide.

>>508459629
>Yes we can be better
This is something nearly every religion offers.
Christianity also says
>No matter how hard you try you won't be perfect, and that's okay as long as you're still making an effort.
Which is essential to maintaining a society that doesn't demand Draconian punishment for minor (and especially unintentional) offenses.

>>508460438
>However when a guest overstays the host will get grumpy and tired,

Proverbs 25:17
Don't visit friends too often,
or they will get tired of it
and start hating you.

>>508459345
>i'm a brown haired blue eyed baptist
So youre much worse, youre a low IQ jew worshiper

>>508460013
More jew mythology? In all seriousnes we have enough problems with jews already, I dont think you schizo sky hippie rabbi will make difference.

Keep praising jews felas, you will be rewarded with jew heaven, in which you will sing endless praises of the borderline personality god yahwe, who will send you into magic lava for disobedience. But he loves you!

>>508460438
Nice mental gymnastics, faggot. But no interprets the jew schizo mythology this way.

>>508453050 (OP)
Why didn't Paul ever mention the empty tomb story? He would've heard the same stories the gospel writers did since the gospels were written after the letters of Paul.

I don't think he wrote the empty tomb story because it didn't exist yet. The legend had not yet been made.

Jesus isn't a Liar
Jesus isn't a Lord
Jesus isn't a Lunatic.

Jesus became a Legend. Like Hercules, like The Buddha, Like Imhotep, etc.

The story just got progressively more embellished as time went on, until Revelations where of course the most ridiculous stuff happens.

Meanwhile, you guys completely overlook the basics. Heaven? Hell? Afterlife? Core aspects that wouldn't ever change? Never existed until the New Testament blasphemers. Jews never believed in that stuff. Heaven is just for God and his council/servants. There never was an afterlife. There is "sheol" or whatever it's called, but it was never considered a "hell" or any afterlife. Just "where the dead go" as "whole person" and your "spirit" "returns to God".

There is no conscious afterlife. There never was. That was invented to scare people into obeying the early Christian church. It was and still is a trick to gain money and power.

>>508453050 (OP)
I tried to be peaceful with christians for a long time but I see now it is completely futile. these people think that a man born to a tribe of usurers and circumcisers is their savior against that same tribe. they are fucking retarded and they hand over the concept of god to hebrew scripture and give them a monopoly on it. Hitler's single biggest failure was letting christianity survive.

>>508460806
>This is something nearly every religion offers.
And every religion is true to the extent that it does.

>Which is essential to maintaining a society that doesn't demand Draconian punishment for minor (and especially unintentional) offenses.
Its also inherent to the "form" of Christian Good.

In effect, "universal forgiveness" was like "candy by the door" to get people in for Jesus's actual philosophical thrust, which was "universal brotherhood".
But the former IS logically necessary for the latter.

>>508461430
Wrong, the true church does, i didn't make it up, a priest preached it.

>>508461479
>Why didn't Paul ever mention the empty tomb story?
Because that story was invented some time after the "Pauline" epistles were forged
> He would've heard the same stories the gospel writers did
See above

>>508454765
>It's part of Roman history

and?

>It's a true story about an actual person

proof?

>The bible explains the problems in the middle East regarding Islam and Israel

it does not explain it it causes it.

>Moral lessons can be derived from all the bible stories, even children can learn to read and think critically

yeah like how owning slaves is good and a disobedient child should be stoned by the village

>He was descendant from King David
1, proof?
2, why does that matter? it's like saying the bible is right because tom's father is josh. what the fuck does that supposed to achieve?

>Many people witnessed Jesus and his followers do miracles

many people witnessed Ra and Amun and Buddha as well. what makes your god visions more real than the other people's? Also if you have visions there's medication for that.

>It teaches patience, kindness, humility, love, joy, peace, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control

it teaches hate and murder

>>508461807
>Relying on (((ChatGPT))) to win an argument
Holy shit these are the last days of civilisation aren't they

>>508462253
But he DID win the argument.

It was a stupid argument.

>>508453050 (OP)
Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life.
Have a blessed week, everybody!

>>508462253
i've interacted with you hundreds of times and you're boring, dull and uninformed.
i thought it would be more interesting to fast forward the conversation instead of starting from the point of trying to get you to justify your knowledge claim that Jesus doesn't exist (which carrier would never make.)

>>508462339
>But he DID win the argument.
Who won the argument? Sorry mate, I can't read screenshots where the typeface is one pixel high

>>508462504
>i've interacted with you hundreds of times and
Still haven't found any actual evidence of a historical Jesus to show me, then

Go one day without talking about Christianity. You seem obsessed for someone who hates it

>>508462483
you are a fucking brainwashed goycattle slave

>>508461266
That's what the Filioque destroyed, it asserted that there's no such sacred measure that's a personification of God himself, and that any man like the Pope can decide what that measure should be.

>>508462562
do this

>>508462623
see pic here >>508454022

>>508453050 (OP)
Because christ is king, end of discussion.

>>508453050 (OP)
>religion of Christianity formed 300-400 years after Jesus' death
This is the consensus, but it requires mental gymnastics.
The simpler more obvious explanation is that jesus never even existed and was made up 300-400 years after the supposed jesus time.

>>508462946
Thanks mate, but that approach only works on a monitor that's 4000 pixels wide

>>508453050 (OP)
In that picture can some explain what the two fingers, the pointer, the flaming cross and the heart with spikes around it is supposed to mean?

>>508462253
Seething yid. Jesus never existed.

>>508454022
>1, crucifixion
even if there was a person named jesus who was crucified there's no proof that he's harry potter spells were real.

>2, appearances
people reported seeing Allah, Amun, Ra, Buddha, Aliens and the sasquatch as well. that's not proof of anything. if you have visions there's medication for that

>3, transformation
gullible people believed this shit and were willing to die for their beliefs yes. that does not make their sky daddy real.

>4, early proclamation
this literally says nothing of substance.

>5, james conversion
see point 2

>6, pauls conversion
see point 2

>>508463185
open the image fully by clicking the "untitled.png"
then hold ctrl and scroll up with your mouse wheel

>>508461297
Truth is truth, keep ignoring reality.

>>508463734
How do you arrive at the conclusion that christianity is the truth?

>>508463660
>That's not Richard Carrier's tone
At last DEFINITIVE PROOF that I am not Carrier

>>508463009
NTA but that pic is not evidence...

all of the 'proof' still comes from the same book which has no other external verifiable sources of said claims

supposedly five thousand people witnessed the resurrected Christ and his miracles, where are their accounts? their gospels?

>but they died for their beliefs
great, so do suicide bombers

>>508463734
>I'm just gonna keep posting this random anime bitch that will surely convert them

>>508463813
>>508463919
By staying sober, keeping watch, and reading God's Word.

>>508453050 (OP)
didnt read

you seem to think that aspects of this world such as race and culture are more important than God.

> Matthew 6:19-21

> 1 John 2:15-17

everything in this world will perish but God is forever

listen to 5 minutes of this and you will convert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt4rWLVAW5g

>>508464014
Present the evidences for the truth of christianity as you see it

>>508464120
harry potter 5:32-12

>>508464156
you ain't getting off the hook either. considering your flag I'm gonna guess you are muslim in which case you need to showcase your proof of your magic sky daddy as well

>>508453050 (OP)

the teachings of jesus christ, when followed, create a society in which men will not engage in a self-destructive race to the bottom at the slightest provocation - it encourages men to recognise that even though they may be at odds with one another, if they try to destroy each other they will do harm to the wider community - and christianity proves that family and community are more important than individuals

Christianity is important as it offers a more or less spiritual decentralized policy for western white society.

Pagan europe had no troubles in being united towards a goal, but only under Roman rule
Quite a good deal for Romans, but not for everyone elese.

Christianity presented a spiritual unifier, less worldly (for a time), and it allowed for a union of European peoples unlike the Roman Empire that preceded it, where Germanics and later Slavs could participate in a common goal without submiting to any one particular group of people.

The Crusades happened due to Christianity, and many European kingdoms participated in wars for the defense of the Christendom, under no emperor but God.

>it distances itself from it's Jewish roots
You say it like it's a bad thing.

>>508463560
1: the image cites roman crucifixion as a historical fact, supported by sources like tacitus and josephus, not harry potter spells.
the claim is about Jesus' death, not magic. scholars agree he was executed, which is the starting point.
2: the image notes disciples' experiences post-death, backed by early accounts (like Paul's letters written between 20-50 years)
seeing allah or sasquatch lacks similar contemporary documentation. visions might have explanations, but the consistency and timing of these reports stand out historically, medication aside, that's a different discussion.
3: the shift from fearful followers to bold preachers, documented in early new testament writings isn't just gullibility, many died for it, unlike random beliefs. the image suggests this change implies something real happened, not a "sky daddy" fantasy based on their willingness to suffer.
4: the early proclamation highlights the resurrection as a central church message from the st art, with evidence like paul's letters (the creed in 1 cor 15:3-8 that's dated to ~35 AD for example)
calling it "nothing of substance" overlooks how rapid, widespread belief, despite persecution, is historically significant.
5: like point 2, the image ties James' shift to a belief in Jesus' resurrection, supported by early sources (like Josephus.) it's not just a vision, it's a skeptic turned leader, which carries weight beyond generic sightings.
6: paul's turnaround from persecutor to preacher, documented in his letters and by Luke (the uncircumsised non-jew greek historian) isn't a lone vision but a transformative event with lasting impact. the image uses this as evidence of something extraordinary, not a hallucination fad.

>>508464384
>>508464423
you don't need a skydaddy to have good morals. Prisons are full of religious people with rosaries and cross/mother mary tattoos.

>>508464120
I just listened to this for 5 mins. Heaven torn open, dove coming down, you are my son i love you, fishing for people, leaving nets following them, seeing james and his nets, impure spirit shook man violently, people amazed, left synagogue and went to simon's home, healed his mom, demon possessed healed, demons expelled and silenced, went to pray at night, preaching in synagogues, touched and cured a leper.

How is this supposed to convert anyone?

>>508453050 (OP)
its the jews

>>508464359
I dont remember inviting you to islam

>>508464156
The Truth is that the world is condemned through sin and the only way to Heaven is through the Son of God.

>>508464769
What's the evidence of that? How do we know that's the truth?

>>508464675
there are atheists who read the Bible and saint who were illiterate.

before you reply to this post say a prayer to God and ask him for faith.

if youre right you will be fine and if youre wrong you will be fine, so you have nothing to fear

Isaiah 41:10

>>508453386
Good post. This current internet great awakening, at its very core, is just a reaction to Reddit. Which is very gay.

Catholicism is the origin of Western culture itself. “The West” gets off the ground with Charlemagne. Neither the Germanic barbarian tribes nor the Romans nor the Greeks were “Western”. It starts with Charlemagne and flowers fully into being after the schism through the Renaissance, then hardens with the conquests of Napoleon that spreads liberalism across the continent.

>>508464743
you are just as much of a brainwashed cattle as the christcucks are. you magic skydaddy ain't real either. talking donkeys? moon splitting in half? seriously? start using your brain bro you are not 12 anymore you don't have to believe in the santa and the easter bunny

>>508463910
>NTA but that pic is not evidence...
it is evidence, you just personally don't feel it's compelling.
evidence is any reasoning argumentation or demonstrable information presented in support of a claim, whether it's a photo, a witness statement, a data point, or a pattern of behavior. Its strength or relevance can be debated, but its existence as evidence isn’t negated just because you find it unpersuasive.
>all of the 'proof' still comes from the same book which has no other external verifiable sources of said claims
the image actually cites external sources beyond the bible, like tacitus, josephus who weren't Christian and corroborate details like Jesus' crucifixion and early followers.
>Supposedly five thousand people witnessed the resurrected Christ and his miracles, where are their accounts? their gospels?
individual accounts weren't typical then. oral tradition was key, paul's early letter reflects a collective testimony. lack of written gospels from all of them doesn't disprove the event given the historical context of limited literacy.
>what about jihadis?
the image highlights disciples transformation and martyrdom, suggesting they died for what they saw, not just abstract belief. suicide bombers act on faith without personal witness.

>>508464622
But you do, or you're just following the current thing.
Carrying rosaries and tattoos aren't a proof of anything.

>>508464384
>christianity proves that family and community are more important than individuals
No? Christianity says the individual must enlighten. You don't get into heaven because of belonging to some group...

>>508464832
the resurrection
>>508464959
Do you mean to say talking donkeys are impossible or that it is improbable? Because then you'd have to prove that miracles don't exist, and unless you have physical proof they are impossible, you cannot be sure. If regularities exist, so do miracles.

>>508464906
>before you reply to this post say a prayer to God and ask him for faith
I already do that 5 times a day.

> talking donkeys?
no such thing
>moon splitting in half?
that's not something used as evidence of islam. anything that happened in the past that cannot be proven/disproven is irrelevant. for example can you prove that your 200 generations ago grandparents existed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwI6RyJdh9M
we used to have nice pagan beliefs that we throwed away or rather were rooted out with force and replaced with cuck religion that christianity is
sad stuff

>>508465190
>the resurrection
What's the evidence of that?

>>508453386
You are correct and also very wrong.

There are two distinct movements at play here. You have only described one of them.

>>508465246
yeah, it's such a shame they took this away from us

>>508465190
>Do you mean to say talking donkeys are impossible or that it is improbable?

they are impossible what fucking looney toones reality are you living in?


>then you'd have to prove that miracles don't exist

i don't have to disprove shit. you have to prove miracles are real. the burden of proof is on you. If I told you that unicorns are real it would be up to me to prove to you they are real it would not be up to you to disprove it

>>508453050 (OP)
>>earliest followers of Jesus were Jews, some of whom didn't consider him divine, others thought he might be somewhat divine (but not God himself or the son of God)
>>religion of Christianity formed 300-400 years after Jesus' death
In islam, jesus is considered a prophet and one of the messengers (a prophet that brings some laws aka receives a book from God) alongside Noah, Abraham, Moses and Mohammad, and Christianity is considered to be like judaism altered on the fundamental level which has happened like OP pointed out. It's all very interesting

>>508465216
>for example can you prove that your 200 generations ago grandparents existed?

yes, very easily in fact. I'm here.

>>508465457
That's not evidence that's a conclusion you arrived without evidence.

>>508465262
4 gospels, 12 apostles, 500 witnesses, the women at the tomb, billions of followers.
>>508465386
>you have to prove miracles are real
You were the one who claimed miracles are impossible. The burden of proof is indeed on you.

>>508465532
Who wrote the gospels? Who were the 500 witnesses? Their testimonies?

>>508465216
pray to God the father of Jesus Christ, not "mohammed" or "allah"

>>508464832
Do you live in a cave? Do you not see the world is on brink of a nuclear war, the climate is getting hotter, there are more people suffering and starving than ever in the History of the world?

As information increases, so does tribulation increase.

[Ecc 1:18 KJV] 18 For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

Daniel prophesied that in the end of time that knowledge would increase and people would be going to and fro all over the Earth.

[Dan 12:4 KJV] 4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, [even] to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Better start studying God's Word, you can have as much knowledge as you want, but it only increases your sorrows.

>>508465246
this. the west turned from being feared warriors to the "turn the other cheek let the muslims rape your woman" cuckolds they are today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wy-W-pYlds

>>508465576
No one prays to Prophet Muhammad because he isn't worthy of anyone's worship. The bible also calls God Allah by the way

>>508465655
That's not evidence though, it's just a claim. How do you arrive at the conclusion its true without fear mongering or just telling me to do xyz?

>>508465523
are you for real? please do an online iq test quick I'm very curious

>>508465846
Ad hom. So do you have proof or do you not have any proof?

>>508465655
>Do you live in a cave? Do you not see the world is on brink of a nuclear war, the climate is getting hotter, there are more people suffering and starving than ever in the History of the world?

that does nothing to prove the existence of god. if anything it proves that IF there's a god it's not all good. you are simply afraid of death and were scared into joining a cult

>>508465571
Eyewitnesses in Jesus Christ's resurrection: 500+
Eyewitnesses in allah's talking to mohammed: none

>>508465774
>without fear mongering

[1Pe 1:17 KJV] 17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning [here] in fear:

[Phl 2:12 KJV] 12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Mankind can not do anything to us, but the Lord can destroy both body and soul.

>>508465774
a claim is evidence.
if one of your wives claims she saw a dog outside, the epistemic warrant for believing in that assertion goes up significantly, especially if you have prior reason to trust her honesty, cognitive reliability and perception.
her statement is testimonial evidence, not conclusive in and of itself, but still epistemically relevant.
the strength of the evidence hinges on context (lighting, distance, her track record with dogs (or mistaking camels for them) etc, but her claim isn't nothing.
it moves the probability needle in the direction of "there is a dog outside."

>>508466042
Name the eyewitnesses.

>>508465900
how can i be here if my ancestors didn't exist? someone had to fuck someone else for a person to be born. which means you have a chain of births tying generations together so yes my existence is proof that my ancestors existed at this point i genuinely believe that you live in the middle of a desert inside a hut and you had access to zero education in life

>>508466167
Lmao read the Bible dawg.

>>508465375
Your god impregnated an underage jewess without her knowing.
You worship a literal jewish pedophilic rapist.

>>508453050 (OP)
I think it’s because not much can go wrong by studying the book, while i don't believe in the miracles and supernatural things, its still a book that you can find knowledge in and you can turn to it for advice. It has many authors and the books within the bible teach geography and is a good overall history lesson

>>508466168
That's still just a conclusion you've arrived without any evidence though. Anyone can extrapolate conclusions.

>>508466224
I have. Can you share the account of the 500 witnesses so I can read them myself?

>>508453050 (OP)
Christ is white Jews are from Esau. Read a fucking book.

>>508466433
Then why is Paul the tribe of Benjamin? The Sanhedrin were Levites. Christ niggers coping hard

>>508466321
Can you share another account of allahs message other than the one from mohammed?

>atheists:
>guys, turns out lighting strikes are not the anger of god it's the buildup and discharge of electrical energy in the atmosphere
>guys look, we invented modern medicine
>guys look, we invented smartphones so you can speak with people on the other side of the globe in real time

>theists:
>prays (does nothing)
>welp, it's time to start another war with this neighboring tribe who believe in a slightly different version of skydaddy

>>508466522
>The Sanhedrin were Levites.
lmao

>>508466522
Nta but he's probably claiming that modern ashkenazim are Esauites falsely claiming to be Jacobites, rather than arguing against the anceatral claims of the Gospels and Epistles.

>a book that starts with a talking snake and ends with a 4headed beast

>category: Non-Fiction

>atheists:
>guys, it turns out le heckin science means we just accidently spawned into existence and our conscience and perception of morality is also accidental, thus nothing actually matters and we can go jump off a bridge to end it all
>ummm actually I'm scared of dying so....

>theist:
>maybe there's more to life than just buildup and discharge of static electricity in the atmosphere...

>>508466525
What's the meaning of that?

>>508466710
Lmfao Christ nogger doesn't know his own mythology

>>508466975
exactly, there arent any. Meanwhile 4 different gospels testify of Jesus' life and resurrection.

>>508466784
No, they're just Jews. Nice cope

>>508467171
Who were the authors of the synoptics?

>>508467141
Wrong image

>>508466959
>guys, it turns out le heckin science means we just accidently spawned into existence

abiogenesis yes

>our conscience and perception of morality is also accidental

it evolved as a survival mechanism in tribes

>thus nothing actually matters and we can go jump off a bridge to end it all

life is what you make of it. It is beautiful and amazing. every breath we take is a gift. that does not mean the universe owes us an explanation why we are here. And us not knowing is also not good enough of a reason to slot in a random god as the cause even though we have no proof of it.

>>508467141
You buffoon, pharisees were not Levites, neither were Sadducees. The Sanhedrin was a political council, not a religious one. Levites served in the temple, members of the Sanhedrin argued about laws.

>>508466710
Prove they weren't. Caiaphas, who made the final decision on the death of jesus, was by all accounts a levite.

>be kike of satan synagogue
>hear someone saying Christ is King
>seethe

>>508467339
What do you think happens after we die?

>>508466686
>guys, turns out lighting strikes are not the anger of god it's the buildup and discharge of electrical energy in the atmosphere
That's attributed to Franklin, who was not atheist.
>guys look, we invented modern medicine
Henry Gray (of Gray's Anatomy) was not an atheist, and neither was Alexander Fleming (Penicillin), (Presbyterian/Anglican).
>guys look, we invented smartphones so you can speak with people on the other side of the globe in real time
The smartphone was not invented by one person, it was a huge collaborative effort by thousands that is still ongoing, retard.

>>508453050 (OP)
Because if you take it not as a faith but as a general approach it coincides with Europe's greatest successes.

It's pretty evident that all European golden ages were marked by a near complete absence of islam, the presence of judaism and the dominance of christianity.

It's just a winning formula, nothing more.

>>508467345
You're literally wrong according to the source material. Caiaphas was THE HIGH PRIEST, a levite. Get fucked

>>508467345
The sanhedrin comprised priests. You have no idea what you're talking about. Caiaphas was the high priest of israel and oversaw the sanhedrin trial.

>>508467426
the exact same thing that happened before you were born: non-existence

>>508467255
nigga open a bible sometime
>>508467339
It is only beautiful and amazing if it has a purpose, and an ultimate purpose is only possible with a divine creator, prove me wrong.
>>508467408
They led Jesus not to the sanhedrin, but to the palace of the high priest. You're confusing the temple Levites with the Sanhedrin. Romans had a senate, the equivalent would be the Sanhedrin.

>>508467681
Wrong.
>In the Gospel of Matthew (Matthew 26:56–67), Caiaphas and others of the Sanhedrin are depicted interrogating Jesus. They are looking for evidence with which to convict Jesus, but are unable to find any. Jesus remains silent throughout the proceedings until Caiaphas demands that Jesus say whether he is the Christ (which means Messiah). Jesus replies "The words are your own: and you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of power, and coming on the clouds of heaven." (Mark 14:62) Caiaphas and the other men charge him with blasphemy and sentence him to corporal punishment for his crime.

>>508467549
the time when christianity was at it's strongest was called "the dark ages". hope this helps

>>508467816
Yes, Caiaphas was a PART of the Sanhedrin, however the Sanhedrin was NOT A PART of the Temple. The Sanhedrin was composed of elders, scribes, pharisees, different groups of people, not just Levites.

>>508467972
Then why did Jesus say they sit in Moses seat? How could they have legitimate authority unless they were of the tribes of Israel?

i hate dispensationalism

>>508467972
>In the Second Temple period, the Great Sanhedrin met in the Temple in Jerusalem, in a building called the Hall of Hewn Stones. The Great Sanhedrin convened every day except festivals and the sabbath day (Shabbat).
>The primary responsibility of the Sanhedrin was to oversee the Temple service and make sure that everything was done in accordance with the Law.

>>508453050 (OP)

Because the West needs to stop being white and needs to become niggers and degenerates.

>>508467681
>It is only beautiful and amazing if it has a purpose

and you are free to make your own choice as to what your life's purpose is. You can dedicate your life to something noble like advancing science or saving animals or you can decide that your life goal is just "to be happy". they are all equally valid. as long as you try to live without hurting others your life is yours to control. Isn't that what you christians are sooo crazy about? free will and all that shit.

>>508468221
>My flavour of jew worship is truer than yours
Ha ha

>>508466959
>if i didn't have this book full of jewish fiction i would be a child raping murderer without a purpose in life
Lol
Lmao

>>508467901
Islam and christianity coexisted in Europe back then, with jews' absence.

Christianity is the nuclear fuel, islam the pollution that hinders it and jews the means to regulate the reaction's speed into its most useful state.

>>508468114
Read what happened after Moses led Israel out of Egypt. His father in law, Jethro, gave him some advice (Exodus 18)

>>508468154
>"I am the one and only. I am the truth. The beginning and the end. My name is the spaghetti monster"

look guys, i came up with some random quote, i guess that proves the existence of the spaghetti monster

>>508453050 (OP)
When the west rejected it it, it went full in on globohomo

>>508463560
>muh harry potter
>reddit spacing
You have to go back

>>508467477
atheists BTFO

>>508468441
>Completely dodged the question
Typical Christ nigger

>>508453050 (OP)
I am so sorry that Christianity doesn't pass your marks to be a "white" religion. Whatever that means. So what do you recommend then? Oh you have nothing. That's what I thought.

>>508467171
You mean they give mutually exclusive perspectives. Your bible is full of contradictions that cannot be reconciled.

>Christians refused to follow jewish law and worshiped icons and engaged in pagan rituals.
>Christians distanced themselves from jews
Wow ok so nothing changed

Until protestants came up with the bullshit that average people should read the bible, which caused them to see all the jew shit, adopt jewish attitudes, and found christian zionism

>>508468534
>atheists BTFO
How?

>>508467171
One gospel written 100 years later, and 3 shameless copies the church says "are uh, divinely inspired"

>>508468676
>Your bible is full of contradictions that cannot be reconciled.
name one
https://contradictingbiblecontradictions.com/

>>508468762
You are accusing the zionists of... not being jews?

>>508468521
And what kind of evidence would satisfy you?

>>508468593
why do you NEED a religion? do you really "must" choose a master to be cuckolded by?

>>508468259
>The primary responsibility of the Sanhedrin was to oversee the Temple service and make sure that everything was done in accordance with the Law.
Correct, like a supreme court should. However, members of the Sanhedrin were not all Levites.
>>508468346
>You can dedicate your life to something noble like advancing science or saving animals or you can decide that your life goal is just "to be happy".
But what is the point, anon? To live 80 years and then die? I refuse to live that way. I live for Jesus.
>>508468427
>jewish fiction
k
>>508468562
>didn't even read
my goodness...

>>508469032
>Doubles down on refusing to answer
Lel

>>508468676
>contradictions:
go on...

>>508468980
>become an atheist
>becomes liberal, homosexual, and selfish
Many such cases!

>>508453050 (OP)

Low intelligence take full of inaccuracies..

>>508469032
They were part of the temple, worked in the temple, and controlled how the temple functioned. They were religious figureheads. Jesus was sent to pilate by an israelite high priest. You're coping.

>>508468892
>god makes man with foreskin
>changes mind and demands he cut it off (while still making man with foreskin)
>changes mind again and now it's a metaphor of the heart

Really contradicts the notion of God's supposed omniscience

>>508453050 (OP)
>Christians committed some of the worst atrocities in history

Not nearly enough

>>508468892
According to 2 Kings 23:29-30:

In his days Pharaoh Necho king of Egypt went to the aid of the king of Assyria, to the River Euphrates; and King Josiah went against him. And Pharaoh Necho killed him at Megiddo when he confronted him. Then his servants moved his body in a chariot from Megiddo, brought him to Jerusalem, and buried him in his own tomb. And the people of the land took Jehoahaz the son of Josiah, anointed him, and made him king in his father’s place

On the other hand, 2 Chronicles 35:23-24 reads:

And the archers shot King Josiah; and the king said to his servants, “Take me away, for I am severely wounded.” His servants therefore took him out of that chariot and put him in the second chariot that he had, and they brought him to Jerusalem. So he died, and was buried in one of the tombs of his fathers. And all Judah and Jerusalem mourned for Josiah.


Did he die at megido, or at jerusalem?

This kills the Christ nigger

>>508468892
Stalagmites disprove the idea of a global flood.

Stalagmites grow very slowly—typically about 0.1 mm to 10 mm per year, depending on climate and water chemistry.

They form from mineral-rich water dripping onto the floor of a cave, leaving behind deposits (often calcite).

Growth is interrupted if the cave is flooded or the water flow stops.

Many stalagmites and stalactites are tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of years old, as measured by radiometric dating methods like uranium-thorium dating.

>>508469157
This doesn't happen. Nobody stops believing in egalitarian jewish fairy tales and spontaneously becomes attracted to men.

>>508468818
>One gospel written 100 years later
No, that's not true. Scholars agree they were written from year 70-90, with John being possibly even year 110. Jesus was crucified and resurrected in the 30s, therefore not 100 years later.

>>508468973
god appearing in my room and saying "hi, im allah and im real" and then disappearing would be sufficient evidence.

>>508469321
The other way around does happen though, which is what they try to conflate.
Attracted to men types noticing the fairy tales' issues with them more easily stop believing.

>>508469181
No they did not all work in the temple, you ignoramus. Their job was to make sure everything was done in accordance with the law. That is why they followed Jesus and constantly pointed out his "rule-breaking" like healing on the Sabbath day.

>>508468534
atheist starter pack
>spawn of satan synagogue
>hates Christ
>doesn't have foreskin
>has big nose

>>508465693
Then deny Muhammad being god and draw him

>>508453050 (OP)
The earliest followers of Jesus were Greeks and Jews. All the gospels were written in Greek. The Gospels literally spell out how Christ was rejected by the stiff-necked Jews and Pharisees and so He gave His gift of salvation to the more worthy and faithful Gentiles. Many Jews joined in that salvation and entered the New Covenant. Those that refused have rejected Christ, and are stained by the crime of Deicide. The Jews that rejected Christ were all destroyed with their temple in 70 ad by the Romans and modern Jews are not the descendants of Abraham and they do not worship the God of Abraham. They are Khazar converts to the synagogue of Satan and they worship the demon Remphan. They will all go to Hell, and their Zionist plans are literally to bring about an Anti-Christ new "Messiah" and a new temple to the Demon Remphan. Any Christian Zionist is a heretic and going to Hell for joining the Anti-Christ.

>>508453050 (OP)
>”hwite” zog narrative
>lower understanding than 80 iq trolls
>proposes no alternative but wishing problems did not exist

>>508453386

Sure sure meme flag. Reedit atheism is so well informed. I am so scared of meme reddit people that I have to hide on a peaceful place like 4chan lol. What I can't figure out is why, if there is no God, you people kvetch so much.

>>508469078
Just read Exodus 18, my guy, and you will get an answer for why Jesus said they sit on the seat of Moses.

>>508468892
There are also different recordings of the last words spoke by Jesus on the cross

>>508469538
Ok so you can't post an actual answer. Thanks for the concession.

>>508469404
Right away your highness. Want god to come give you an oil massage too?

>>508469478
Prophet Muhammad was a human being and no human being is worthy of being called God. That's basic islamic understanding we don't worship him lol. Why would I draw him?

>>508469464
>No they did not all work in the temple
>In the Second Temple period, the Great Sanhedrin met in the Temple in Jerusalem, in a building called the Hall of Hewn Stones. The Great Sanhedrin convened every day except festivals and the sabbath day (Shabbat).
You've been so BTFO you're nitpicking shit you were wrong about and still getting it wrong.

>>508469218
>>508469310
these are not contradictions.
>>508469269
this one is and it's reconcilable.
https://www.contradictingbiblecontradictions.com/?p=2734

>>508469269
>His servants therefore took him out of that chariot and put him in the second chariot that he had, and they brought him to Jerusalem. So he died, and was buried in one of the tombs of his fathers.
It could be interpreted as him dying at Megiddo here too. Just stated after the fact "so he died", doesn't necessarily mean he lived after they put him on the chariot.

>>508469771
So did he die at megido, or Jerusalem?>>508469736

>>508469661
if god (or anyone else really) "wants a relationship with me" the bare minimum they can do is show up instead of threatening with eternal fire.

>>508469736
>these are not contradictions.
They sure are. Why would an omniscient being need to change his plan?

>>508469604
:|
I'm literally offering you read the source
>13 And it came to pass on the morrow, that Moses sat to judge the people: and the people stood by Moses from the morning unto the evening. 14 And when Moses’ father in law saw all that he did to the people, he said, What is this thing that thou doest to the people? why sittest thou thyself alone, and all the people stand by thee from morning unto even? 15 And Moses said unto his father in law, Because the people come unto me to enquire of God: 16 when they have a matter, they come unto me; and I judge between one and another, and I do make them know the statutes of God, and his laws. 17 And Moses’ father in law said unto him, The thing that thou doest is not good. 18 Thou wilt surely wear away, both thou, and this people that is with thee: for this thing is too heavy for thee; thou art not able to perform it thyself alone. 19 Hearken now unto my voice, I will give thee counsel, and God shall be with thee: Be thou for the people to God-ward, that thou mayest bring the causes unto God: 20 and thou shalt teach them ordinances and laws, and shalt shew them the way wherein they must walk, and the work that they must do. 21 Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens: 22 and let them judge the people at all seasons: and it shall be, that every great matter they shall bring unto thee, but every small matter they shall judge: so shall it be easier for thyself, and they shall bear the burden with thee.

>>508469985
This literally doesn't address what I said lol. Why the cope? These people here in the exodus passage, are they Israelites?

>>508453386
Accurate. Most christians are niggers lol

>>508469736
creation.
>Genesis 1: Humans are created after plants and animals.
>Genesis 2: Man is created before plants and animals.

noah's ark
>Genesis 6:19–20: Two of every kind (male and female).
>Genesis 7:2–3: Seven pairs of clean animals, and one pair of unclean.

god's nature:
>Exodus 33:20: “No one may see me and live.”
>Genesis 32:30: Jacob says, “I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared.”

death of judas:
>Matthew 27:5: Judas hanged himself.
>Acts 1:18: He fell headlong, his body burst open.

i can keep going all day

>>508469673
>they gathered in the hall of hewn stones
>they were involved in the ordinances and sacraments of the temple service
two different things. I don't even know how you can be so ignorant.

>>508469736
Explain this.

>>508470070
Yes they are Israelites.
>this doesn't address
it really does. You asked why Jesus said they sat at the seat of Moses; here is why Jesus said that. Every tribe, not just Levites, were involved in the Sanhedrin, the purpose of which was to judge.

>>508465655
the world is on the brink of a nuclear war directly because of abrahamic religion you absolute fucking retard

>>508465128

A schizophrenic desert shit skin cult magic torture porn fan pic isn't either.

>>508470375
This. It's so fucking tiresome

>>508470101
>creation
Summation + not following chronological order is a hebraism. To them it wasn't really that important unless specific context was needed.

>>508469321
>Nobody stops believing in egalitarian jewish fairy tales and spontaneously becomes attracted to men.
It does though! Many surveys point to atheists overwhelmingly being liberal and gay compared to religious people.

>>508469834
c'mon bro it's 430 words in the picture.
>>508470101
>genesis 1
Chronological creation, humans last
>genesis 2
thematic focus on man, not strict sequence
no contradiction.

>genesis 6:19-20
general instruction, 2 of each
>genesis 7:2-3
specific addition, seven pairs of clean animals
no contradiction

>exodus 33:20
seeing God's full glory is fatal
>genesis 32:30
Jacob saw God in a limited, non-lethal form
no contradiction

>matthew 27:5
judas hanged himself
>acts 1:18
rope broke, body fell and burst
no contradiction

keep 'em coming

>>508470577
>Jacob saw God in a limited, non-lethal form
>no contradiction
Moron
>>508470101
>>Exodus 33:20: “No one may see me and live.”
It's still a contradiction. Fuck you are dumb

>>508470328
Glad we agree the Pharisees etc were Israelites and therefore it's all jewish

I see a lot of reddit atheists thinking they've owned the Christcucks by pointing out contradictions in the bible. I'm a devout Christian. The bible was written by dudes who at best were trying to describe God. It's not literally the word of God. Christianity is a philosophical framework and the bible is a book attempting to describe divinity and the fundamental concept of - God is love.

>>508470103
>the Great Sanhedrin met in the Temple in Jerusalem

>>508470577
>He can't answer
I thought your magic book had no contradictions

>>508470522
They were gay and liberal while religious you retard, that's why over half of fags are christian and majority christian states in the northeast are blue.

>>508470797
>Bible isn't magical word of God
Yes exactly, it's all Jewish fiction

>>508470211
>2 chronicles 22:2
textual variant.
your quran has these too.
they're not contradictions, we have manuscripts that say the correct number that aligns with 2 kings 8:26

>>508470797
>I see a lot of reddit atheists thinking they've owned the Christcucks by pointing out contradictions in the bible. I'm a devout Christian. The bible was written by dudes who at best were trying to describe God. It's not literally the word of God

you do understand that if you don't believe the bible is the word of god by definition you are not christian right? you are a deist at best

>>508470577
>>acts 1:18
>rope broke, body fell and burst
>no contradiction
This says nothing about a rope. Yoi did t even read it. Why are you lying?

>>508471132
>textual variant
nope they're the same in the septuagint
>your quran has these too
such as?

>>508470522
so you admit that if you stopped practicing christianity, you would begin sucking dick and getting fucked in the ass? ok pal.

>>508470764
Well yes, the Sanhedrin was a continuation of what Moses had installed after Jethro's advice. Still, you have to remember that Israel and Judah were also led away in captivity, and Jerusalem razed to the ground. Add to that the fact that Judaea was populated by Greeks as well as Edom's descendants and apparently even Canaanites according to Matthew 15. Now of course the Jews were extremely prejudiced in this regard, but did you know that Caleb was not a physical descendant of Abraham?

>>508470825
>The great Sanhedrin was a court and thus not attended exclusively by Levites
Just read Exodus 18 already

>>508470735
>God can't limit himself
i disagree.
>>508470827
>He can't answer
i did though.
>>508471152
>This says nothing about a rope.
it doesn't need to.
your job in pointing out contradictions is to demonstrate the reconciliation offered CANNOT POSSIBLY work.
given another text says he hung himself and this text says he fell and his guts sploded makes sense if he rotted and fell off the rope the other verse mentions.

>>508471420
>Argument from silence
>Nowhere does it say jesus wasn't a velociraptor so he's a velociraptor
Was Paul, the Pharisee from the tribe of Benjamin? Why should we believe these people were not Israelites? You're so cooked, golem

>>508470923
Not what the data shows, but keep believing that.
>>508471395
Just saying what the data shows. Being atheist makes people much more likely to be gay.

>>508471537
>Still won't answer because he cant
Christ niggers are fuckin pathetic

>>508470101
>Babby's first contradiction claims
lol, lmao even, try harder.
>Genesis
The Hebrew is is rather vague. It is either something like there were not yet any "Plant of the Field" (specifically meaning no cultivated crops, merely natural growth) or it is saying that God was directly caring for the trees, plants, etc. with a mist, rather than a rain.
NIV was not well-compiled.
>Noah's Ark
>Do you have $2?
>I actually have $14.
>So yes, I have $2
lol
>Jacob's encounter
One of several in the OT with the preincarnate Christ. Just as many saw and spoke with Christ and did not die, so Jacon encountered Him in a similar manner.
To see God behind a human form is not lethal. To see the full glory of the Father is.
>Judas
A body hanging from a tree becomes bloated, then falls and the entrails gush out.

>>508471537
The mind of the trans-semite. Insanity.

>>508471537
>>This says nothing about a rope.
>it doesn't need to.
Yeah it does. It's two contradicting accounts. Just like the last words spoke by Jesus on the cross

>>508471537
>>God can't limit himself
So he limits himself to contradiction. Very cool lol


And your personal feelings don't negate what's written and what's written are contradicting each other

>>508453050 (OP)
>>508453386
>Fuck every white man, woman and child that lived for the past 1500+ years. All a bunch of christcuck larpers.

Do you even like white people?
This kike pagan/atheism/santanism bullshit has only started becoming a serious threat from the 1950s. Coincidentally also when the Church lost it's power and kikes gained in power.

>my book says this
>and my book says this
>but my book said that
>and my book said that

I don't care. I don't give a shit. I do not care what your retarded books say. I don't care what some old faggots a 1000+ years ago had to say about my foreskin or eating pork. I. DO. NOT. CARE. Nor do i want laws and legislations created based on the sayings of old homosexuals. grow up. you are not a kid anymore stop with this tooth fairy bullshit.

>>508471603
If you're a christian, there's a high probability you're a NIGGER.

>>508471601
What are you talking about? You seem to be talking about something completely unrelated.
Paul referred to himself as a descendant of Benjamin, that is a true Israelite who could trace his roots back to Jacob. Remember that Egyptians and other nations could also become part of Israel after some time.
The Sanhedrin was a court of law who's job was to see that the temple service was done according to the law, that all the commands were kept, that nothing would be done contrary to the law. Their job was NOT to conduct temple service, that was reserved EXCLUSIVELY for the Levites.

>>508471353
>nope they're the same in the septuagint
?
the septuagint has the harmonized 22 in both places.
other manuscript lines (like the MT) have the 42 scribal error.
this is what's known as a textual variant.
>such as?
do you want a loooooong answer
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-the-royal-asiatic-society/article/hisams-ibraham-evidence-for-a-canonical-quranic-reading-based-on-the-rasm/E1E00FF676696F869570F4A70C3115E4
or a short and funny one?
(trying to find it)

>>508472154
kek you're worse than an atheist because while the atheist actively denies serving the devil, you lot boast about it.

>son, you are old enough to know. Santa isn't real.
>really daddy?
>yes, son.
>and the easter bunny?
>false
>and the tooth fairy?
>false
>and jesus/muhhamad?
>no no, they are certainly real keep praying

>>508471603
>Not what the data shows

>>508472086
The quran was an oral tradition in any case. There are still people that learn it without reading a single letter. Where's the contradiction in how a name, a proper noun, is spelled?

Meanwhile 42 and 22 are completely contradictory numbers

>>508471891
>So he limits himself to contradiction
?
>>508471706
they're not contradictions
if bob says
>ghosts of mesa went outside today
and jenny says
>ghosts of mesa had sex with a dog today
just because bob didn't mention the dog doesn't put these 2 testimonies in contradiction, both events could've happened.

Everybody always wants to call Christian morality weak yet christian states and kings have killed WAY MORE niggers and jews than you ever have.

>>508472591
>they're not contradictions
Ah, so God changed his mind again. There goes omniscience

>just because bob didn't mention the dog doesn't put these 2 testimonies in contradiction, both events could've happened.

Hmm God says no one can see my face and live. Then contradicts that statement later.

Try again, retard

>>508472524
>Meanwhile 42 and 22 are completely contradictory numbers
yes.
it's a copyist error, a textual variant.
if you apply the standard you're trying to set on me to your quran you're in trouble.

>>508472375
>Horrible boomer parenting invalidates Christ
weaksauce

>>508472275
Lets see who the bible says is god

>>508469661
Draw him to prove that he's not god

>>508473107
What do the next two verses say?

>>508472953
That's not contradictory though. The qiraat give a complete meaning to the surahs. As a matter of fact there are other qiraat too that give even more meanings with slight changings. This is basic quran knowledge when you are in grade 8 lol.

>>508453050 (OP)
>>religion of Christianity formed 300-400 years after Jesus' death
>>it distances itself from it's Jewish roots, scriptures and beliefs are full of contradictions
>>Catholics and Orthodox worship icons, pray to saints and mother Mary, have various pagan rituals
>>Christians committed some of the worst atrocities in history, despite their imaginary version of Jesus telling them "turn the other cheek = win"
>>innovations in this religion happen all the time, and they have been happening since the beginning, God totally told those high-ranking old dudes in church what his plans are, and he didn't just do it that way since the beginning
literally all of this is false and rejected even by secular historians. it just goes to show no one actually rejects Christianity because of evidence or scientific advancement. it simply comes down to the fact that they don't want it to be true, that's it. that's 100% of the reason

>>508473236
Prophets arent god though. Do you believe moses is god?

>>508473862
Nobody prays to Moses though
>peace be upon you, oh prophet

>>508474266
yup. that's the same way we greet each other too. in fact the jews greet each other that way too. that's not worship

>>508471943
nice try christcuck

>>508474515
In prayer, however?

>>508473862
Stop stalling, retard

>>508474781
Yes. Even to all muslims. Even to Abraham. Even to the followers of Abraham.

>>508471945
it's worse than that. some of them actually believe they are the same race as jewsus.

>>508453050 (OP)
They removed all the real teachings of jesus from the bible

>>508477560
This guy is the biggest retarded faggot I have ever seen. He is actually retarded and doesn’t actually read anything he just regurgitates Jewish propaganda about other cultures religious texts without actually understanding anything he’s talking about. Ancient aliens tier gnostic as in he knows less than nothing.