Is it possible to defend your airspace in 2025? - /pol/ (#508454990) [Archived: 857 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: h5cxp6rAIreland
6/23/2025, 3:19:45 PM No.508454990
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Russia and Ukraine cant. Iran cant. Israel cant.

It seeems the best way to conduct war is a massive sneak attack like Israel did
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Anonymous ID: PKa65agmUnited States
6/23/2025, 3:21:13 PM No.508455107
>>508454990 (OP)

have you noticed jews want normies to know about bots now - they are losing the bot war - only reason they would bring up bots
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Anonymous ID: Jdx0ysHKUnited States
6/23/2025, 3:24:31 PM No.508455339
youd think it was just a matter of object tracking software and fast/accurate motors.
whatever your air defense is, there's a plane designed to subvert it and that's what your enemy will use.
Anonymous ID: TuXkVc59
6/23/2025, 3:28:14 PM No.508455612
>>508454990 (OP)
Israel has total superiority over Iran.
ruzian junk military hardware proved itself to be inferior to NATO chad space age tech.
Time to bomb ruzia back into the stone age, since they won't be able to stop it either way.
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Anonymous ID: QBsjx4oHUnited States
6/23/2025, 3:29:10 PM No.508455688
>>508454990 (OP)
They knew it all the way back in 1932.
"The bomber will always get through."
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Anonymous ID: dKAD65ssSwitzerland
6/23/2025, 3:39:29 PM No.508456487
>>508454990 (OP)
Israeli air defence was intercepting 75-90% of all Iranian missiles. It works. They're just running out of interceptors. But by the looks of it the Iranians are running out of missiles/launchers too.
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Anonymous ID: zaZqoYXmIreland
6/23/2025, 3:55:25 PM No.508457715
>>508455688
Yes. So it means preemptive war is.the only way to win.
Anonymous ID: Ryh8CNO4United States
6/23/2025, 3:58:21 PM No.508457970
>>508455612
Did you forgot ukraine was bombed while protected by NATO missile systems, or would you be black-bagged and sent to the trenches if you pointed out the truth about your war "effort"?
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Anonymous ID: KnhABKis
6/23/2025, 3:59:50 PM No.508458087
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>>508457970
>Did you forgot ukraine was bombed while protected by NATO missile systems, or would you be black-bagged and sent to the trenches if you pointed out the truth about your war "effort"?
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Anonymous ID: LnoyONXvUnited Kingdom
6/23/2025, 4:00:03 PM No.508458102
>>508454990 (OP)
and people are still larping Iran is winning
Anonymous ID: oDcalevhAustralia
6/23/2025, 4:02:11 PM No.508458300
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>>508458087
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Anonymous ID: 47kRBCNtRussian Federation
6/23/2025, 4:07:18 PM No.508458730
>>508454990 (OP)
The Crimean bridge has never been struck by a missile during the entire war, despite Zelensky regularly talking about the need to destroy it and trying to attack it. Ukraine supporters frequently cite the myth that the bridge isn't used for military supplies, but it's debunked by Zelensky himself.

Moscow simultaneously builds around 100 skyscrapers at the moment and will enter either top 10 or top 5 cities with most skyscrapers in several years, even solitary drone attacks are extremely rare there.
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Anonymous ID: Y1c+08ZsUnited States
6/23/2025, 4:08:33 PM No.508458836
>>508454990 (OP)
>Is it possible to defend your airspace in 2025
Depends on how many of what type of interceptors you have, how many missiles your enemy has, and how many of those are what type of hypersonic.

If Russia launched 100 hypersonic missiles then the US couldn't stop all of them, for example. Does "defend your airspace" could only blocking 95% of missiles but letting 5% hit their mark?
Anonymous ID: r5FCgnCvEstonia
6/23/2025, 4:10:18 PM No.508458992
>>508458730
You can't destroy the bridge with a missile, there's no point in wasting a missile striking it.
For the same reason you haven't really attacked Ukrainian bridges.
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Anonymous ID: /6d0bIvQCanada
6/23/2025, 4:10:55 PM No.508459050
>>508455612
The same
>NATO chad space tech
That couldn't stop Iranian ballistic missiles?
Anonymous ID: WWP6uBedUnited States
6/23/2025, 4:11:14 PM No.508459082
>>508454990 (OP)

target the ballistic missiles at their air bases pretty much
Anonymous ID: 99Od/ibmUnited States
6/23/2025, 4:11:45 PM No.508459132
>>508458300
found the russian
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Anonymous ID: nJD5XKPJ
6/23/2025, 4:13:37 PM No.508459292
>>508454990 (OP)
>only hear about attacks in Iran
>very little about attacks in Israel
>cry about how free you are

lol white people
Anonymous ID: 7stV10wIFinland
6/23/2025, 4:15:36 PM No.508459446
>>508456487
Iran has 28 000 missiles left
How the fuck is that "running out" in your mind
They can keep destroying Israel daily for decades
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Anonymous ID: zaZqoYXmIreland
6/23/2025, 4:21:33 PM No.508459935
>>508458992
German military on tape spoke that it would take 10 to 20 Taurus missiles
Anonymous ID: 47kRBCNtRussian Federation
6/23/2025, 4:22:26 PM No.508460009
>>508458992
Russia heavily focuses on not getting diplomatically isolated and destroying the bridges would cause a huge humanitarian crisis on the left bank.

As for the Crimean bridge, see

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATACMS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_Shadow

and search for "bridge".
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Anonymous ID: dKAD65ssSwitzerland
6/23/2025, 4:27:45 PM No.508460443
>>508459446
>How the fuck is that "running out" in your mind
In your mind they have 28000 missiles.
In reality, they have been launching fewer and few missiles every day. On the first day of retaliation they launched 100s of drones and missiles. These days it's small salvos in the single or low double digits. If they actually had 28 000 (obviously they don't), they would have been able to sustain 100s of missiles every day for the past 10 days, and they would have totally overwhelmed Israeli and American air defence at this point and probably started to do real damage.
So, WHY AREN'T THEY ACTUALLY FIGHTING BACK PROPERLY IF, ACCORDING TO YOU, THEY HAVE 28000 MISSILES?

Some basic arithmetic: if Iran had 28000 missiles they would be able to launch 100 every day for the next 9 months, without any news missiles being produced.
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Anonymous ID: aciNc9CoUnited States
6/23/2025, 4:29:34 PM No.508460608
>>508454990 (OP)
For China, Russia, the USA it is likely feasible to do so. For the rest of the world it is a likely unachievable.
Anonymous ID: 3NVSfVnmUnited States
6/23/2025, 4:30:04 PM No.508460656
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>>508459132
Anonymous ID: o8178pOrUnited States
6/23/2025, 4:30:39 PM No.508460709
>>508454990 (OP)
It's not possible to be a belligerent tough guy when you've been sanctioned out of the world economy and picking fights with countries that have way more high tech militaries
Anonymous ID: luQMo0xdUnited States
6/23/2025, 4:31:23 PM No.508460773
>>508460443
I heard that they spread them out to keep the israeli in permanent lock down and fear now, arenโ€™t the attacks happening more frequently throughout the day
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Anonymous ID: pW/xCNEDAustralia
6/23/2025, 4:32:09 PM No.508460843
israel doesn't have air superiority over their nation even since they're getting hit by missiles everyday
Anonymous ID: 0NxQe+n5United Kingdom
6/23/2025, 4:32:26 PM No.508460871
>>508459446
At the start of this habbening the media were claiming between 2,500 and 3,000 total ballistic missiles, not all of which had the range to reach Israel.
I would assume they've depleted at least half of their stockpile, maybe more.
What is left is probably reserved for use in further escalations.
28,000 is laughable 10x off the mark. I'd be surprised if the States and China combined have that many ready to go.
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Anonymous ID: +FEjaPeA
6/23/2025, 4:33:40 PM No.508460976
>>508458087
cringe tankie
>>508458300
based aussie
Anonymous ID: 7stV10wIFinland
6/23/2025, 4:34:49 PM No.508461077
>>508460443
They've launched like 40 each day for the past 3 days, there were only a few days during which they launched less and it has nothing to do with a shortage of missiles. They are just patiently expending Israels anti-missile missiles, and soon Israel is out and Iran can begin really destroying Israel.
Israels interception rate has fallen to 50% already because of how few anti-air missiles they have left.

You're a clown who watches legacy media instead of looking up whats really going on in Israel, they are getting BTFO by a few dozen missiles daily. No need to waste more until they can no longer defend at all.
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Anonymous ID: mvxuzHktUnited States
6/23/2025, 4:35:10 PM No.508461106
>>508454990 (OP)
>Russia and Ukraine cant. Iran cant. Israel cant.
And the US can't. Remember the balloon? The drones?
Anonymous ID: Np/XYoYEIndia
6/23/2025, 4:39:05 PM No.508461450
>>508454990 (OP)
Just ruin your cities and be stinky and no one will invade and everyone will limit themselves to memes like physical combat in the hills or drone spam. We Indians have established a POWERFUL biological deterrence.
Anonymous ID: 8+2XZ0LDUnited States
6/23/2025, 4:40:55 PM No.508461621
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>>508454990 (OP)
No, Western powers invested in air defense systems and advanced aircraft.
Eastern powers mostly invested in advanced missile systems that can bypass air defense systems.
Eastern powers can't defend against the advanced aircraft,
western powers can defend against the advanced missiles.
The coming war is going to be brutal with the majority of casualties being civilians.
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Anonymous ID: a+Dd7KJTUnited States
6/23/2025, 4:59:59 PM No.508463408
>>508460443
Like some random swiss faggot knows how many missiles Iran has
Anonymous ID: a+Dd7KJTUnited States
6/23/2025, 5:07:53 PM No.508464124
>>508460871
Except that story of 3000 missiles came from the NY Times. They have no idea how many missiles Iran produced or actually bought from Russia.
Anonymous ID: LyVwKitlUnited States
6/23/2025, 5:09:59 PM No.508464295
I don't get why AI hasn't made radar pointless. Can't you just use cameras with AI object detection now? Just point some fucking survilliance cameras at the sky.

>Muh clouds
Iran is a desert. Beside, if clouds are an issue, just point some cameras on a weather balloon.
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Anonymous ID: LyVwKitlUnited States
6/23/2025, 5:12:12 PM No.508464502
>>508460443
They are data gathering. They keep targetting different spots, with different munitions, and different vectors. They are studying where and how Israel responds. A big part of modern warfare is poking at your opponent lightly and judging their response.
Anonymous ID: a+Dd7KJTUnited States
6/23/2025, 5:12:18 PM No.508464506
>>508464295
Look at this retard
Next you are going to say iranian women cant go to college.

No, Iran is not one big desert. Shit for brains
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Anonymous ID: 1IetBdX6
6/23/2025, 5:12:32 PM No.508464528
>>508460773
>I heard that they spread them out to keep the israeli in permanent lock down and fear now, arenโ€™t the attacks happening more frequently throughout the day
this 100% reads as a cope
John Enoch Powell ID: 846NXsFhUnited Kingdom
6/23/2025, 5:13:54 PM No.508464652
>>508454990 (OP)
>a massive sneak attack like Israel did
Don't forget that MMUUUURRRKUUUUHHHFUCYEAAAAHHH also carried out a sneak attack on 3 Iranian installations as Tehran were waitng on the next meeting with muuuurrrrkuuhhhfuckyeah
Anonymous ID: w7cqH6g9Estonia
6/23/2025, 5:14:52 PM No.508464735
>>508458992
You can destroy a bridge with a missile what are you on about? Easily as a matter of fact. Maybe Crimean bridge is strong enough to take a couple of hits, but it'll go down eventually.
Anonymous ID: LyVwKitlUnited States
6/23/2025, 5:15:33 PM No.508464790
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>>508464506
So green
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Anonymous ID: WeXWfDvYLithuania
6/23/2025, 5:16:28 PM No.508464885
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>>508454990 (OP)
Airspace was never meant to be protected in the "traditional" sense.
Because airspace carries the pronoun of a "she", and her (airspace's) destinity is to be penetrated by a million phallic objects, some white and some dark, some big and some small, until new birth can be forged through ecstatic fire.
Anonymous ID: 6JHjd+sKAustria
6/23/2025, 5:16:51 PM No.508464919
>>508460009
>Russia heavily focuses on not getting diplomatically isolated and destroying the bridges would cause a huge humanitarian crisis on the left bank.
This seems incorrect, if the logistical strain were big enough to cause a humanitarian crisis, the military value of destroying these bridges would be too high for the russian armed forces to not do it after over 1000 days of war.
Many bridges have been destroyed this war, by both sides, often medium sizes ones, often in the wake of local attacks/counterattacks. Its just that a massive one like to Crimea needs so much concentrated firepower that this firepower is better used to strike something else. Imagine how many good attacks/destroyed supplies and troops you can achieve with 10-20 Taurus.
Anonymous ID: UDvwZJBdBrazil
6/23/2025, 5:17:55 PM No.508465018
>>508461077
>They are just patiently expending Israels anti-missile missiles, and soon Israel is out and Iran can begin really destroying Israel.
Lmao, trust the plan kosher edition.
Anonymous ID: a+Dd7KJTUnited States
6/23/2025, 5:18:58 PM No.508465120
>>508464790
Yes
Green are mountains you retarded fucking troon.
Anonymous ID: XIeGydmUGermany
6/23/2025, 5:19:00 PM No.508465122
>>508454990 (OP)
what is condition of Israeli air defense system rn?
Anonymous ID: 5dyhMQxS
6/23/2025, 5:19:31 PM No.508465179
>>508464506
Why do traitors like you like to suck sandnice peopleโ€™ cocks so much?
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Anonymous ID: 2v37UmdsUnited States
6/23/2025, 5:21:03 PM No.508465316
>>508465179
>traitors
you're an asshole.
Anonymous ID: a+Dd7KJTUnited States
6/23/2025, 5:22:02 PM No.508465413
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>>508465179
So pointing out Iran is not a desert makes me a traitor? Thats why you tranny faggots keep losing. One troon lies and another faggot swears to it.

Have a real map
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Anonymous ID: a+Dd7KJTUnited States
6/23/2025, 5:24:33 PM No.508465639
>>508464790
Faggot

AI
>About 22% of Iran's land area is classified as desert. This is significantly less than many neighboring countries in the region.
Anonymous ID: RvUwVkKQUnited Kingdom
6/23/2025, 5:26:20 PM No.508465801
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>>508455612
You know the key to effective paid posting is to fit in, right?

You stand out worse than a 8 foot nigger with his head on fire in an Amish church service.
Anonymous ID: RvUwVkKQUnited Kingdom
6/23/2025, 5:27:01 PM No.508465862
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>>508456487
Anonymous ID: AMJHXYQlUnited States
6/23/2025, 5:27:13 PM No.508465872
>>508465413
>Iran isn't a desert! Look at this map showing there is a few trees on its border
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Anonymous ID: a+Dd7KJTUnited States
6/23/2025, 5:29:26 PM No.508466078
>>508465872
Wow
This really triggers you faggots on discord. I wonder why....
Could you give us a source that says Iran is one big desert?

Faggot
Anonymous ID: a+Dd7KJTUnited States
6/23/2025, 5:31:06 PM No.508466239
>>508465872
Its a topographical map you fucking retard. Green is sea level.
Near the sea.
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Anonymous ID: RvUwVkKQUnited Kingdom
6/23/2025, 5:31:23 PM No.508466270
>>508465179
Why should an American care what a paid poster in Tel Aviv thinks?

I know most of your buddies died in Gaza or an Iranian missile strike, but you guys are getting worse at this whole opping our comfy basket weaving forums.
Anonymous ID: Tfp30A7xDenmark
6/23/2025, 5:32:27 PM No.508466368
>>508460443
>I know how many iranian missiles enter/approach israeli airspace daily.
Hey WhatsUp Mr Trump.
Anonymous ID: mklozeoiUnited States
6/23/2025, 5:32:35 PM No.508466383
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>>508454990 (OP)
IRGC intel just released where israel stores their jets
Anonymous ID: SGIHL6hTUnited Kingdom
6/23/2025, 5:32:58 PM No.508466423
>>508459446
>>508460443
>>508460871
Nobody but Iran itself knows how many missiles they have. Everything else is just speculation and guesswork. The same way it was with Russia. In other words war time propaganda.
Anonymous ID: WeXWfDvYLithuania
6/23/2025, 5:37:42 PM No.508466856
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>>508454990 (OP)
I asked chatGPT
Anonymous ID: erfM7e/tUnited States
6/23/2025, 5:43:55 PM No.508467467
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>>508465179
youre the traitor, faggot
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Anonymous ID: TQhBWPNyCroatia
6/23/2025, 5:45:03 PM No.508467580
>>508461621
>western powers can defend against the advanced missiles
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Anonymous ID: O5MOQVqcUnited States
6/23/2025, 5:47:07 PM No.508467766
>>508466239
>This topographical map proves Iran is a lush forest
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Anonymous ID: erfM7e/tUnited States
6/23/2025, 5:49:34 PM No.508468019
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>>508465872
> nation of 90 million highly intelligent men from stable families
> lets just invade it like iraq in 2003
Anonymous ID: erfM7e/tUnited States
6/23/2025, 5:52:30 PM No.508468315
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>>508467766
iran is as big as the eastern united states and has many biomes
Anonymous ID: ACjWYNa5United States
6/23/2025, 5:57:12 PM No.508468790
>>508459446
Are the 28 thousand missiles in the room with you right now? If so shouldn't they be fired at Israel?
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Anonymous ID: D1c5nqAwSweden
6/23/2025, 5:58:10 PM No.508468893
>>508460443
>i trust israel on how many missiles are being sent from iran
who's gonna tell him?
Anonymous ID: erfM7e/tUnited States
6/23/2025, 6:09:00 PM No.508469993
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>>508468790
see, the thing is, all your soft power and decapitation strikes mean nothing once you start bombing, iranians are capable of building missiles and you can only stop them with nuclear terror bombing, which america will never survive the fallout from even if israel does. this is the reason iran was willing to expose itself by attacking israel. all you accomplish by bombing iran is ensuring the loyalty of the iranians to the mullahs by confirming that yes, america is the great satan, america is incapable of not bombing the middle east. iran will have nuclear weapons soon because the deal where iran doesnt get nuclear weapons and doesnt get bombed has been altered to iran gets bombed until they show a nuclear deterrent
Anonymous ID: 8+2XZ0LDUnited States
6/23/2025, 6:10:07 PM No.508470095
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>>508467580
It was a typo.
I meant to say
>western powers can't defend against advanced missiles.
ty for catching it though.
Anonymous ID: L4spMmWEUnited States
6/23/2025, 6:11:53 PM No.508470277
>>508455107
botpost
Anonymous ID: a+Dd7KJTUnited States
6/23/2025, 6:22:36 PM No.508471292
>>508467766
Deserts are usually flat.
You are a massive faggot that doesnt know what a topographic map is and you think your retarded opinion matters.
Anonymous ID: D1c5nqAwSweden
6/23/2025, 6:25:49 PM No.508471624
>>508467467
Saved that pic, thanks