THE UTTER STATE!

>>508488369 (OP)
Beautiful Clean Niggercoal

>>508488369 (OP)
coal is based and provides tons of jobs, based jobs too. get fucked cleantards

>>508488369 (OP)
The US is a bunch of coal burners

>>508488369 (OP)
There really is no good substitute for coal. It's vastly more abundant than oil or gas and is much more stable in price.
Nuclear is good but takes forever to build and decomission and one nuke plant in the US costs over $10 billion nowadays.

Gotta keep burning the coal.

>>508488576
>coal is based and provides tons of jobs, based jobs too.
Correct
>get fucked cleantards
They are clueless and are all paid by Rockefeller oil monopoly men.
Who don't want any real competition to their oil monopoly.
>REAL: like coal and nuclear

White women already on that senpai

Americans the coping machine

>>508489005
>>508488738
>>508488576
Found a song made just for you guys!
https://youtu.be/whdzP0GHuc4

>>508488369 (OP)
DOE has already stated they are opening all forms of energy, including oil/gas, coal, nuclear and even solar and wind but they aren't paying those subsidies anymore.

But it’s the clean kind.

>“The train bore me away, through the monstrous scenery of slag-heaps, chimneys, piled scrap-iron, foul canals, paths of cindery mud criss-crossed by the prints of clogs. This was March, but the weather had been horribly cold and everywhere there were mounds of blackened snow. As we moved slowly through the outskirts of the town we passed row after row of little grey slum houses running at right angles to the embankment. At the back of one of the houses a young woman was kneeling on the stones, poking a stick up the leaden waste-pipe which ran from the sink inside and which I suppose was blocked. I had time to see everything about her—her sacking apron, her clumsy clogs, her arms reddened by the cold. She looked up as the train passed, and I was almost near enough to catch her eye. She had a round pale face, the usual exhausted face of the slum girl who is twenty-five and looks forty, thanks to miscarriages and drudgery; and it wore, for the second in which I saw it, the most desolate, hopeless expression I have ever-seen. It struck me then that we are mistaken when we say that ‘It isn’t the same for them as it would be for us,’ and that people bred in the slums can imagine nothing but the slums. For what I saw in her face was not the ignorant suffering of an animal. She knew well enough what was happening to her—understood as well as I did how dreadful a destiny it was to be kneeling there in the bitter cold, on the slimy stones of a slum backyard, poking a stick up a foul drain-pipe.”

Reminder that this is the world coal shills pine for.

>>508488369 (OP)
BUILT FOR BIG BLACK COAL

>>508488576
as if other forms of power don't do the same

>>508488369 (OP)
my state is one of the top coal producers and offered great benefits and pensions at the coal mines and coal plants. But now everything is natural gas that we import from Texas and all the plants are staffed by the gas company's employees from Texas and all the mines have shut down. My power bill went from around 80 dollars a month while on coal to around 200 dollars on natural gas. It's crazy. All the small towns that were held up by coal mines look like detroit now. The people saying "coal is bad for the environment" do not know what they are talking about. Mine reclamation and scrubbers make the pollution pretty much non-existent.

>>508489907
Yeah but jews want a war without sending oil to $200 which could send interest rates sky rocketing

>>508488738
Nope. Nuclear is the better and cleaner but I have yet to hear of the coal plant melt down and make a county radioactive.

>>508489907
Burn the coal, pay the toll

>>508488369 (OP)
Rich right.

>>508489907
LMAO. I live in coal county and it never looked like that. I will admit before scubbers, your auto paint wouldn't last long near the plant. But scrubbers make coal plants no worse than car engines.

>>508490071
>my state is one of the top coal producers and offered great benefits and pensions at the coal mines and coal plants. But now everything is natural gas that we import from Texas and all the plants are staffed by the gas company's employees from Texas and all the mines have shut down. My power bill went from around 80 dollars a month while on coal to around 200 dollars on natural gas. It's crazy. All the small towns that were held up by coal mines look like detroit now. The people saying "coal is bad for the environment" do not know what they are talking about. Mine reclamation and scrubbers make the pollution pretty much non-existent.
You are 100% right.
My power bills too also jumped a lot when the power company switched from coal to gas.
Gas is a scam.

>>508490181
Coal is actually slightly radioactive and the coal industry produces way more deaths than nuclear directly and indirectly, via pollution, mining accidents, etc. Coal is technically easy though, nuclear requires a non-kiked government and functioning society.

>>508490350
>>508490071
Scrubbers just transfer the sulphur to the water table. You’re still shitting up the Earth.

We’re a species that have harnessed the power of the atom but a significant proportion of us are convinced burning black rocks and goo is the pinnacle of sustainable power generation.

>>508490503
>and functioning society.
Certainly not any country that prioritizes DEI.

>>508488369 (OP)
You WILL breathe the smog

>>508488369 (OP)
Only douchebags use the word "buildout".

>>508488576
you are a stupid subhuman spic that lives in the southwest

>>508490709
>Scrubbers just transfer the sulphur to the water table. You’re still shitting up the Earth.
Just say you don't know what you're talking about. The byproduct of the scubbers is synthetic gypsum that they sell to make drywall for houses and cement in concrete, idiot. the water evaporates from the gypsum. Nothing goes into the water table. I know because I live in coal country and half my family used to work at the mines and coal plant.

>We’re a species that have harnessed the power of the atom but a significant proportion of us are convinced burning black rocks and goo is the pinnacle of sustainable power generation.

Not too many people want to place nuclear reactors on the four major fault lines in the US. And coal is the best sustainable power generation that doesn't have the risks or nuclear.

>>508488369 (OP)
Burning coal is a time honoured american tradition after all

I STAND against dirty pollutants
I am for a CLEAN future
I accept the PROVEN issue of climate change
Go to your local representative amd repeat with me
BURN THE COAL
PAY THE TOLL
Say it LOUD say it PROUD
At every rally let everyone around you know
If you BURN the coal you will PAY the toll!

>>508490503
>Coal is actually slightly radioactive
stfu. So, is wood ash. It's just a byproduct of burning shit. it's not any more dangerous than having a cell phone next to your ear but you don't mind that.
>and the coal industry produces way more deaths than nuclear directly and indirectly
You mean coal, that used to have plants and mines everywhere have more injuries than that 3 nuclear reactors? Wow. At least when they do have injuries, you whole town isn't evacuated.

>>508488738
nuclear energy is a huge scam i highly recommend the muckraking journalist Greg Palast on this topic. billions and billions of taxpayer dollars going directly to corrupt energy consortia (typically directly linked to defense contractors, oil companies and the evil hybrids living at the intersection of those two satanic industries)

>>508491766
The byproduct of scrubbers is acidic polluted washwater, nigger. All the toxic shit you get when you burn black goo is transfered to the water. Air pollution is swapped for water pollution. You’re still shitting up the planet.

Nuclear energy combined with solar, wind, tidal, and hydroelectric dams are the way forward towards sustainability.

>>508492512
>wind, tidal
STFU. You're either a retarded pajeet or a jew.

>>508488576
kill all west virginians

>>508488369 (OP)
....why?

>>508488369 (OP)
Wow trumps really bringing back the industrial revolution. I didn't know he was this serious about it.

>>508493005
Manufacturing requires energy, the cheapest the better

>>508488474
why did i find this funny. fuck you

>>508488738
you have to be braindead to not be on nuclear train

>>508488369 (OP)
This is an unironically the absolute best way to lower prices, especially energy prices. It’s not great for the surrounding environment, but it will make things cheaper.

>>508488369 (OP)
White children yearn for the mines

>>508492812
The pajeets and kikes are the only ones not developing wind or tidal power.
China is the largest growth sector on Earth for wind generation for a reason. The US keeps falling behind.

>>508489330
Considering he's literally a modular nuclear reactor guy, I get a feeling there will be a significant build out with nuclear in the immediate future. Pretty sure they new fuel and reactor tests just wrapped up at Idaho National Laboratory.

>>508493238
Giving White technology to nonwhites was the second biggest mistake Whites committed.

>>508488369 (OP)
Before these plants were shut down I paid average $30-45 a month for power back in the 90's.
When coal plants were turned off and Enron in the early 2000's our power cuts and transformer breakdowns were daily. Once had a $2 power bill.
TURN ON ALL POWER SOURCES AND BACK OFF SO I MAY CREATE ENERGY IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS!!!!

>>508490181
Coal power generation releases more radiation into the environment than nuclear does

>>508488369 (OP)
>using solar panels to make use of barren land no one wants to develop on is bad!
What even is their fucking problem with clean energy.

>>508492265
>At least when they do have injuries, you whole town isn't evacuated.
Except for that one town that has a 1,000 year fire underneath it and everyone has evacuated.

>>508490503
Westerners are such weak pussies nowadays.
Yes, all technology produces pollution and has health effects. But overall, due to technology, we live longer and better than ever before. It's a good tradeoff.
If you get cancer at age 75 due to coal smoke, you're still doing better than the huge majority of humans ever did. So stop whining!

>>508488369 (OP)
Burn the coal, pay the toll

>>508493742
It's not energy dense and it's intermittent based on the environmental situation.

>>508488738
Coal releases incredible amounts of mercury, cadmium, and other heavy metals.

>>508493630
The dangers of radiation are overblown.
Look at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They've been living long and good lives continuously since the bombs were dropped.
A little radiation is harmless.

>>508488369 (OP)

>We can't just buy it from Canada; That would make them prosper! Oil prices need to stay don't; Can't buy that from Canada either. We can't have a budget imbalance with Canada! We must save face! 51st state bitches or we'll nuke you too.

>>508493867
in the mean time, thousands of species have gone entirely extinct due to our "progress"

good job retards

>>508494015
I agree, but that kills the argument that coal is better than nuclear because of radiation

>>508493998
So?
Coal powered societies also industrialize and develop rapidly and the people enjoy mass produced, inexpensive goods and higher standards of living.
It's a tradeoff. Sure, try to contain the harmful chemicals, but they're still worth taking in exchange for the benefits of cheap energy.

>>508493742
Solar is only good on a local level, otherwise it's inefficient as fuck, volatile and not exactly clean.

>>508493812
> Except for that one town that has a 1,000 year fire underneath it and everyone has evacuated
yea all that “clean coal” i keep hearing about

>>508494165
I never said coal is better than nuclear because of radiation. I said it's better because it's cheaper and easier.

>>508490071
Are you in PA? I worked in the ABE area and it's sad what's happened to the area. Granted it was steel mills there but it seems like it sorta happened around the same time. The only thing that keeps the ABE area from being like detroit is its proximity to nyc/philly. Otherwise it'd be more destitute

>>508494206
> industrialize and develop
we 1880s now? are you braindamaged?

>>508488369 (OP)
I was pushing coal to replace everything years ago, we got a 10,000 year supply or some crazy number.

>>508493998
What is 15 dollars a month for filters that reduce that by 98%

>>508493996
If it adds MW to the electric grid, who gives a shit. The problem has always been lobbying preventing diversification of a critical system

>>508488369 (OP)
Coalburners

>>508494351
Coal is good for initial development and for maintaining prosperity in advanced economies. Cheap, abundant, domestically sourced energy is the foundation of prosperity.

>>508494391
10,000 year PROSPECTED supply
That doesn't account for how we just stopped looking at a certain point. Coal is ubiquitous on Earth.

>>508491766
>And coal is the best sustainable power generation that doesn't have the risks or nuclear.
Coal produces much more radiation, and that's normal operations fohr4yv2r coal plants

>>508494281
>I never said coal is better than nuclear because of radiation.
The original poster I was responding to did.

>>508488369 (OP)
BEAUTIFUL CLEAN COAL. DRILL DRILL DRILL.

>>508488369 (OP)
We got 300 years of coal, why the fuck wouldn't we use it?

That's retarded

>>508494471
Efficiency and opportunity cost. Why use renewables to add MW when there are better and cheaper ways to do it?

>>508488369 (OP)
Learn to Mine

>>508492512
Not my problem

>>508488369 (OP)
Conservatives are fucking imbeciles

>>508488576
coal is clean you hank hill ass boomer

>>508490071
Too bad trump wants to get rid of those too. Get cancer and die migatard

>>508488369 (OP)
Too late. No one is going to build a coal plant, because the dems will get back into power.

>>508488369 (OP)
fantastic. Michigan can reopen the mines on the east side of the state and get the niggers and white trash back to work

>>508488369 (OP)
They also need to stop all the offshore wind bullshit, and scrap all the solar power stations.
Make Clean Coal Great Again!

>>508493742
It doesn't work.
Solar? OOPS, clouds exist.
Wind? OOPS, storms and stillness exist.
Do you really want to trust your energy security to the fucking weather?

>>508495994
Prevailing climatic conditions are stable. In some parts of the world they’re extremely stable and have been used by navigators for centuries.

>>508488576
>based jobs too
I fucking love black lung.

>>508489005
>They are clueless and are all paid by Rockefeller oil monopoly men
Where's my check?

>>508488369 (OP)
>THE UTTER STATE!
Are you retards really bitching about more electricity being generated? Why is the strategy just to label everything good as something negative who is dumb enough to fall for that kind of psyop?

>no oxygen is bad for you goy Trump planted a tree the absolute state

>>508497092
We have plenty of power. I want them to lower the cost of solar so I go off the grid and make my own power. Right now it's not worth it. For the cost of installation it would take 20 years for it to pay for itself.

>>508497092
Trump was supposed to restore the defense industrial base not send white people back into literal coal mines, reddit miggers must either enlist or start digging

>>508497452
>We have plenty of power.
You're a lying bitch the cost of electricity has gone up since Obama and that's by design. If more electricity is produced then prices can go down. This will make home cooling cheaper, protect and expand job creation and lead to lower costs for businesses of all kinds that can be passed on as price savings to consumers.

>lower the cost of solar
You're a lying commie bitch at that. Billions have been pumped into solar scams from the American treasury because of grifting scum like you and the only winners were your jewish ass and red China.

>>508497979
Go choke on your avocado toast you shit sucking dingus meanwhile back in reality people all over coal country voted for precisely that.

>>508498200
I'm not opposed to coal, it never should have been shuttered in the first place. But this orange nigger is fucking everything up.

>>508497979

Warren Buffet has invested billions in Berkshire Hathaway Energy which owns western utility PacifiCorp, which has a sizable fleet of coal power plants. Berkshire’s Burlington Northern railroad ships a lot of coal as well.
People were puzzled by his investments 15 years ago but it's obvious the green energy narrative is just a scam. Watch what people do not what they say. The retail investor was purposely drawn into green energy investments all of which bombed and provided just a means to scalp the idiots. Meanwhile the insiders put their money into oil and coal.
Its similar to what jewish art dealers do. They unload overpriced modern art crap onto the public and use the profits to buy up renaisance old masters and other stuff which is actually valuable

>>508488369 (OP)
better than having those awful, awful wind turbines all over the damn mid west and west, such eyesores and they are so destructive on the environment (cannot be recycled and have to be buried in huge open pits) and bird populations,

>>508496973
with strip mining techniques people don't even go underground anymore, it's all done by explosives and huge mostly robotic machines

>still not investing in nuclear because a few retarded russians did everything wrong one singular time in 1986

>>508488576
>provides tons of jobs
At peak coal production, in 2008, there were 80k coal miners in the US. Today, there are about 50k.