Thread 508488580

>amerifats are going to invade this
>a country where it's one giant chain of mountains
How are a bunch of obese mutts supposed to pull this off? What are they going to do? Walk on the roads through mountain passes? That's ideal ambush terrain

Well. You better start working on your mountain climbing skills.

>>508488580 (OP)
>Walk on the roads
Americans don't walk.
They're far too obese.
Why do you think they use their planes so much in warfare?

>>508488580 (OP)
We got helicopters and drones you fucking idiot

>>508488580 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0abaXEXHcg
If I had 10 divisions of those men, then our troubles here would be over very quickly.

>>508488772
Go enlist then, retard

>>508488580 (OP)
One big old nuke. Iran will be making anime and selling us VCRs in 50 years.

>>508488772
And those did a great job crushing the Taliban. Oh, wait.

>>508488580 (OP)
Jesus, will you browns give it a rest?

>>508488580 (OP)
>invade
It's BOMB Iran, not walk into Iran, and we are bombing the shit out of it.

>amerifats are going to invade this
Stop listening to CCP youtube videos, fellow amerifat.

>thread full of subhumans
>mocking the only superpower in the world.
Lol. Lmao even. You will never be White.

>send 5 million troops to invade mountain chain
>90 million civilians kick your ass
>no way out
>american empire collapses
>israel becomes regional superpower and can do anything it wants
all according to plan

>>508488580 (OP)
"drop bombs, natives start killing each other"
- Art of the deal

>>508489020
You enlist faggot

>>508489242
Check the k/d ratio Hans. We just got bored and left

>>508488580 (OP)
> amerifats are going to invade this
Will not happen. Not after the experience of Afghanistan. There will be less than zero support for it.

It's literally impossible to invade.

Iraq took 1 entire year of stockpiling soldiers and hardware in neighboring countries and it's an open desert.

>>508489778
>Check the k/d ratio
By this logic the Soviets and Chinks lost WW2.
>We just got bored and left
Sure, after investing billions into a puppet regime that ended up lasting shorter than the Spongebob TV show.

>>508488580 (OP)
Its Afghanistan on steroids.
And we are fucking stupid to try this crap again and again.
We will bleed our nations dry while China and Russia laugh at us.
This is just fulfilling a glownigger plan that was told to me back in 2009. Hurr durr we take Afghanistan and Iraq then take out Iran. Yeah well we fucked both of those up.
>2 tours in Afghanistan

>>508488580 (OP)
Iran apparently has no allies so I guess if you were to strike now is the best time. Russia is obviously a bunch of cucks who bitched out of helping their "best friend" so from a strategic viewpoint it's not the worst decision

>>508489795
Jews have kidnapped Trump like no US president before him. He's gonna send in the mutts.

>>508490092
Afghanistan was practically conquered after a few weeks

>>508488580 (OP)
They'll naval invade the Southern Coast

>>508490037
What are you talking about faggot?
We killed so many of those goat fuckers and wiped our dick on their women. We didn't need Afghanistan, our young boys need war experience and they did good job. The money is no issue since we got plenty of that. Are you a goat fucker defending your goat fucking Alladins?

>>508489955
Ask the Byzantine

>>508488580 (OP)
Give me the base of my choosing and BAH/BAS for 5 years; I can deliver Iran before Orange man leaves office.

>>508488580 (OP)
Sergeant Rodriguez and Sargeant Rodriguez and corporals Rodriguez and Rodriguez are gonna be bummed they don't get to invade Iran.
>>508488772
>Fortunate son intensifies

>>508489778
burn kike.

>>508490356
How retarded can you be, seriously? You're comparing wars that were fought by armies that were a few thousands soldiers big, that subsisted mostly on plunging and pillaging, and fought slow wars that lasted decades, with armies that need massive supply lines to even move.

>>508490258
2 months, and TaliChads did their reconquista blitz (fastest in history btw) in a few weeks, so it's redundant, the government mutts built up and armed to teeth during 20 years lasted waaay less than the soviet war torn shithole they found when they arrived, so it's actually worse, if 20 years of being built up by America, holee, you have to recheck all your doctrines desu

>>508489778

> We just got bored and left

Quite literally late roman copium, it's a common joke among roman historians about Romans "winning" wars by declaring they won and then leaving

>>508488772
That didn’t help win afghanistan

>>508490356
You do realize that the Eastern Roman Empire was destroyed by a thousand years of muslim hordes, don't you?

>>508488580 (OP)
>Flies over your airspace undetected and unbothered
>drops bombs over your infrastructure
>leaves

I don't understand why anyone thinks the burgers are gonna invade Iran.
Heck, I don't even think they're gonna force a regime change.
What's in it for America? Doing a boots on the ground war would be political suicide in the current climate. Remember they can't control the narrative a well as they used to thanks to the internet and social media.

The USA only invaded Iraq because neocons where in charge and they all make have monetary interests in the military industry. They wanted to keep the gravy train going.

>>508488772
>>508489422
Air power doesn't capture ground. And air strikes are not very effective unless combined with ground attack. They can simply repair or rebuild damaged infrastucture

Also, at some point up its anti air capabilities to hit US air instead of letting them fly freely over Iranian air space. Iran is desperate to not escalate so they just let America bomb for now

when the war is in full escalation it would become suicidal to fly aircraft for both sides anywhere near enemy ground like in Ukraine.

>>508490714
You're talking about the Afghan government after America left. This thread is about a hypothetical invasion of such a country and America took almost full control of Afghanistan in 3 months using 3000 soldiers

I imagine they will have a lot of meetings with the Taliban to discuss how to do it effectively.

What a quagmire. All so that fucking kike Netanyahu can stay in office.

>>508490830
Well we're not Romans. We don't fuck little boys in togas

>>508490868
Fuck Afghanistan. We don't need that shitty desert full of child molesters and curtain wearing bitches

>>508488580 (OP)
>How are a bunch of obese mutts supposed to pull this off? What are they going to do? Walk on the roads through mountain passes? That's ideal ambush terrain
Ever heard of Afghanistan? It's far more mountainous than Iran is and has a giant mountain range that runs right through the center of it

>>508490936
>>508490994
Iran is letting America bomb (for now) to avoid escalation

>>508491000
Yes, that Afghan government was, trained, educated and fully armed by America, they also spent 20 years under American protection, the intention was for it to grow legs of their own, guess what? Most humilliating defeat ever, but at least the complex and CIA made a fuckton of money while the taxpayer got poorer, and not even the Blitzkrieg highscore they could keep lmao

>>508491442
The Afghans are useless and didn't give a shit if the Taliban took over, what's your point?

>>508491241
Yeah and you lost there you fat nigger.

>>508488772
Send us a postcard from Tehran!

>>508490355
>We killed so many of those goat fuckers and wiped our dick on their women.
Precisely the problem is that this didn't happen. If your soldiers are not getting their dicks wet, your army is cucked.

>>508491241
lol

America didn't hold ground in the mountains, and America invaded through he flat lands. For America to invade Iran they'd have to fight through multiple mountain chains against a military much larger and with much more capabilities than the Taliban

>>508491502
Even the Soviets managed to built a more solid government, lasted four years, not a few weeks, how can America be so fucking useless kek, and against the same enemy, albeit the Taliban was supplied by America back then, so maybe that's why it took them longer? lel

>>508490258
Dude, the Taliban won in the end. And all that happened was we wasted billions of dollars that could have improved our own infrastructure, and ruined the lives of countless young men.

>>508488580 (OP)
>invade
lol lmao even,
They're the blood sacrifice Israel needs to open the portal for Moloch
Didn't anyone tell you?

>>508488580 (OP)
If I was sent to die for Israel in Iran I'd just find a mountainside cave to call my home and never leave.

>>508488580 (OP)
they can get dropped in... fucking trap of a country

>>508490714
Exactly. I was personally involved in the training and operational mentoring of the Afghan National Army and they were drug addicted retards with guns that were only there for a paycheque (funded by the US). A lot even worked for the Taliban (I was nearly killed in a grenade attack by our own ANA) The ANA literally gave up in two days without us being around to hold their fucking hands.

>>508492301
>>508492321
Noone is talking about building a government. He was implying it would be hard to invade like Afghanistan when Afghanistan was one of the easiest invasions in world history

>>508492648
Slippery slope. First it will only be a 2 week operation. Then the (((political insiders))) will beg for expensive govt reconstruction contracts.

>>508491064

> Well we're not Romans. We don't fuck little boys in togas

no the little boys you fuck wear adult female clothing and make up

>>508490355
You lost tranny

>>508492764
An invasion is not going to happen so this is all hypothetical

>>508492213
Not to mention Afghanistan was in the era of professional US soldiers with massive experience. They were battle hardened and tested elite soldiers.
>Panama
>Desert Storm
>Haiti
>Somalia
>Bosnia

Afghanistan was actually quite impressive how they planned and executed the first few weeks of the war. From top to bottom the Americans actually performed admirably.

Nowadays the USA has 0 experience. In fact the USA has shifted their entire focus of having high quality soldiers to having 10,000+ "Special forces operators" from 500 in the 90s.

These special forces operators have alot of kill mission and search and destroy experience. Rumors have it that Delta does have boots in Ukraine.

But these SF troops are gonna be irrelevant against Iran, if the average soldier/marine has 0 combat experience.

>>508490994
We're not capturing anything. We will just bomb them until there's a regime change. What do you think those prison breaks were for? Iran needs to be worried about sleeper cells, not us.

>>508492014
the top brass even shut down the Russian run "massage parlor" in Kandahar airfield. Gheyest fucking war ever.

>>508488580 (OP)
that's why Vance immediately went on msm and made the retarded claim that they didn't attack iran and begged iran to accept peace. They know that if iran wanted they would absolutely push America's shit in.

>>508488580 (OP)
It will be extremely painful

>>508492960
Probably never going to be a regime change at this point. 150k-180k highly educated leave the country every year and Afghans are 10% of the population now

>>508493287
Ooof is that legit? These morons think they can run over Iran like if its Iraq 3.0 lulz.

>>508488772
>soviet union defeated nazi germany not usa
>korean war ended in a stalemate
>lost against vietnam
>lost against iraq
>lost against afghanistan
If america is not good at war then what are they good at????

>>508492960
That's not how it works. Bombing countries causes the people to increase their support of the government defending them and increase heir resentment of he enemy bombing them

Despite what you may believe, Iranians aren't going to come around to loving Israel by bombing them

>>508488580 (OP)
>amerifats are going to invade this
No we're not retard

>>508488580 (OP)
I see a plapjak in this image.. God I'm so broken

>>508493537
Yes. For every innocent person killed in the bombing you create 4 insurgents that hate the west.

>>508488772
That didn't work in Afghanistan and Afghanistan is a less difficult environment than Iran. You literally can not occupy Iran, it won't work, you could bomb the shit out of them and kill their government but you will never have any real control over the governance of the region because the entire country is a fortress.

>>508493651
They won't be insurgents. They will be standing Iranian military. Insurgent implies America and Israel are going to occupy most of the ground in Iran

>>508488580 (OP)
Most people don't even understand the size of this country even mountains and stuff aside

>>508492960
>Iran needs to be worried about sleeper cells, not us.
Buddy, it’s an undisputed fact there are numerous Iranian sleeper cells in this country and they are armed with MANPADS. They had 4 years to plan and embed. A prison break does not make a sleeper cell network. You are retarded.

>>508489955

You're an idiot. Persia has been invaded countless times throughout history. Its coastline is indefensible.

>>508490598
>it's literally impossible to invade
>but it was invaded in the past successfully
>u-uhhh those didn't count CHUD
kek, this board has some of the biggest imbeciles in human history infesting it

>>508493287
>azerbaijani motor rifle brigade

>>508490891
What does that have to do with the country having been previously invaded lol, are you gonna sit here and say Israel is impossible to invade because they've been annoying humanity for two millennia? I doubt it

>>508493914
Engh Iranian military. My language was just showing my zogbot glownig indoctrination since the early 2000's lulz.

>>508488580 (OP)
>Naplam
>Chemical weapons
>Biological weapons
>Ground penetrating weapons
>Mines
>Water cut offs
>More sanctions
>Import pork and rabbit meat
>International pressures
>Spycraft
>Saboteurs
Good, clean, wholesome fun!

There's a reason Persia has had 10,000 years of continuity and is one of the oldest civilisations in the world

>>508494194

How that works is obvious. Look at it. Why the fuck are you seizing mountains. You starve it. You can seize some mountain points to gain vantage. As cities robbed of energy and water and coast sooner cause insurrection they're bombed. While you hold the ports. Most armies conquering it did just that. Straight to capital after robbing it of coastline they went around and not through deserts. The rest of any resistance faster fell.

We are talking everybody from Greeks Romans Mongols Ottomans even Indians have had a pop at them.

>>508494491
There's a reason Persia has had 10,000 years of continuity and is one of the oldest civilisations in the world

>>508488772
>We got

You got nothing, you are an interchangeable resource of an economic zone (like me).

What makes you believe that you have a country and where does this feeling of belonging come from?

>>508494971
Northern Iran is bordering Russia and he have a protected shipping lane through he Caspian Sea.

America would be able to take coastline in the south. That's it.

>>508495022

What's that? 10k old nonsense. It hasn't. The IRGC is a few decades old. It isn't Persia.

Persia has been conquered by virtually every Empire since their own. Until today. It cannot collapse a terrorist regime?

I guess Israel will collapse it at any going rate.

>>508495022
>There's a reason Persia has had 10,000 years of continuity
I guarantee without a shred of doubt that you have absolutely no understanding of history whatsoever.

>>508493459
>lost
Restraint was only shown because we are weak. Eventually, this will stop. Do not confuse failure with choice, if America chooses to win, it will.

>>508495930
>duhhhh it’s been invaded multiple times in history
>doesn’t realize Iran was barely a modernized Army in the 1940s
>doesn’t realize the Soviets sent 3 armies to support the 2 British divisions
>no u don’t know history
Sure thing retard.

>>508495948
>duhhh we chose to loose!
See above.

>>508495767
Nobody is talking about the government you dumb fuck. Just because China has been ruled by the CCP since the 1950s doesn't mean China isn't thousands of years old

>>508496151
Anon none of this means fucking anything. Persia does not have 10,000 years of history. It simply does not, you are delusional. It has been invaded successfully by virtually every single culture that surrounded it, multiple times. You straight up have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. But you are in good company as this board is filled to the brim with delusional imbeciles.

>>508495022

North Coast hahahaha. It's not much of a supply line. A landlocked sea.

Look at it. The bulk of any cities all lead to the main one. It goes after you robbed it of the gulf. What's it got.

You've created a big assumption today that no other conquering armies have ever struggled with.

Besides you're robbing that coast for the most obvious reasons of you hold the other one.

As far as Afghanistan on steroids hell no you're bombing the fuck out of infrastructure and military and government while choking its main artery.

>>508496297
China ISN'T thousands of years old. That's a great example of the point the other anon is making. Almost all of China's history is them being invaded by another power and ruled by a dynasty before that dynasty collapsed. They don't have thousands of years of uninterrupted governance. If someone claimed China had never been conquered before people would similarly laugh, it shows that the person talking hasn't even bothered to read the Wikipedia article on the history of the area, let alone dug deeper into the culture's history.

>>508496373
>the point
>your head
Where are you going to get 3 armies worth of people to invade? Where are you going to stage from? The Brits had Iraq and the Soviets shared a border. You think it’ll be easy. It won’t be. All you can do is cry delusional while not understanding the history you claim to know. This is not 334 BC. Past performance does not dictate future success. Deal with it.

>>508496388
There's a reason why there's no roads on that route but I guess Amerifats are going to rough it

>>508496297

That's what idiot said. It's 10k years old. No, it isn't. It's a few decades at best.


It has been invaded countless times throughout history. It isn't Afghanistan either. It's Iran.

Iran where holding the coast deprived it of most of its economy. Meanwhile you bomb the fuck out of it. Things like dams and energy and military and government. Its sprawling population are faster in insurrection.

>>508496648
No you cringey little faggot, you don't get to change what was being discussed. It was claimed that Persian had never been conquered, implying its geography rendered the act infeasible. That is an indisputable fucking lie. I'm not going to debate the minutiae of the means by which it would be invaded today, because it's totally fucking irrelevant. It's wrong that Persia can't be conquered, your argument is wrong at its basis so discussing anything built on that basis is a total fucking waste of time

>>508496443
Caspian Sea is a huge trading sea. It has the most shipping tonnage trafficked of any landlocked body of water in the world. And it's the direct cheap and easy shipping route between Iran and Russia

>>508493813
You probably won't get it until the war, but Iran is weaker than Afghanistan. Their force projection is superior of course, but they don't command the same kind of fanatic loyalty. This is why they raise flags instead of bombing zogbots

>>508489422
You've been bombing houthis for years. They seem to be fine.

>>508496957
>discussion is invasion is Iran
>noooo u don’t get to point out glaring holes in my argument
Nigger the last time Iran was invaded was the 1940s when it was a literal backwater with a laughably small army. You’re here posing smug anime girls pretending it’ll be a cake walk because of past performances. This delusion is fueling the idea that we can just imply walk in when the Iranians, after leaning that harsh lesion in the 1940s and have turned the place into a fortress. Good fucking luck with that.
>I-it’s irrelevant
No it isn’t. You’re just an assblasted retard.
>wahhh you’re wasting time
Where do you think you are?

>>508497122

Perhaps today. It wasn't when trade flowed where historically. Besides if it's an invasion. The coast look. It is not a landlocked sea it's the fucking coastline.

Look at the natural barrier between its coastal cities and its inland cities.

The only threat is its launchers except they're depleted into a 6 gun salute? What was that? Enough to bring hell down on their fucking heads one can only wish.

>>508497416
No you moron, the first post of what we were discussing said, and I will fucking quote for you because you are retarded:

>it's literally impossible to invade

It is not literally impossible to invade. It has been invaded, successfully, by everyone that surrounds it. You are putting words in my mouth about a potential invasion today because you are incapable of responding to what is actually being discussed. Because you have absolutely no conception of the history of the region, and like most of this board you have gone off the deep and made it your personality to be a contrarian faggot, so you MUST simp for Iran no matter what

>>508497862
>OP does not contain “impossible”
>t-that’s the topic of the thread
No it isn’t.
>You are putting words in my mouth about a potential invasion today because you are incapable of responding to what is actually being discussed
>I don’t know what implied arguments are
Hilarious. Keep being a smug retard. That’ll get your point across.
>Because you have absolutely no conception of the history of the region
Anon, those successful invasions were successful for specific reasons. I’ve provided you why the last successful invasion was so and all you can do is say
>nooooo u don’t understand history!
It’s just idiotic.
>not wanting another pointless forever war in sand land on behalf of the Zionist dogs who rule over us is simping!
But I’m the contrarian. Go fuck a cactus.

>>508488580 (OP)
this is nothing for MIGA, to the last american

>>508498552
OP is not what this chain of replies came from you coping little faggot. If I sound smug it's because you continuously saying absolutely idiotic bullshit that has nothing to do with what was being discussed. You can't sit here and claim that the country is impossible to invade when it's happened repeatedly, and most recently less than a hundred fucking years ago. At best your argument is that it would be difficult to invade, which I would be fine with debating with you on if 1.) we had actually started the discussion as such and 2.) you aren't clearly a coping little cocksucker that's latched on Iran because it's the newest poster child for anti-westernism. You don't know fucking shit about Iran or its history, that's why it's completely pointless to discuss this topic with you.

>>508497708
I''m talking about the Caspian Sea all trade between Russia and Iran comes through here. And all trade from China can be shipped over rail through Russia before going over the Caspian Sea

>>508497708
I'm talking about the Caspian Sea all trade between Russia and Iran comes through here. And all trade from China can be shipped over rail through Russia before going over the Caspian Sea

>>508489162
lmao you don't have the balls mutt nigger. Pakies already have said they will nuke israel and probably india too if nukes are used in iran, and of course russia will nuke ukraine and germany
wtf are you going to do about that mutt boy nigger

>>508497862
I remember when Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, and Korea were all going to be successful invasions according to the jews too

>>508488580 (OP)
Alenxader the Great conquered them over 2k years ago and he didnt even have siege weapons. He was also too busy being a homo rather than preparing proper logistics for his army.

>>508499403
Literally all of those countries have been previously invaded and subjugated before. If your argument is that invasions against them have failed, thus meaning it cannot be invaded successfully, then congratulations moron Israel is apparently unassailable. But you're not going to consistently apply that retarded point of view because it would destroy your moronic narrative

>>508488580 (OP)
Persians are fags and can't into guerilla warfare.

>>508498897
>nooo u can’t interrupt my reply chain to discuss the overall topic of the thread
The coping faggot here is (you) dum dum.
>You can't sit here and claim that the country is impossible to invade when it's happened repeatedly
Good thing I haven’t.
>At best your argument is that it would be difficult to invade
It is. Your implied argument stems from the “it’s been invaded multiple times in history” with the implication being it’ll be easy. It won’t be. The last successful invasion of Iran was in the 1940s. The geopolitical of then do not apply now. Saddam’s invasion in the 1980s achieved fuckall.
>1.) we had actually started the discussion as such
That’s why we have an OP.
>2.) you aren't clearly a coping little cocksucker that's latched on Iran because it's the newest poster child for anti-westernism.
Nice strawman. Now explain to me why invading Iran on behalf of the Zionists is actually pro-western. You can’t.
>it’s pointless because I say so!
Ok retard. You can leave the thread at any time.

>>508490258
taliban still held in the mountains tho. Like those villages in the mountains chain taliban were there for 20 years and zogbots couldn't do shit about it

>>508488580 (OP)
Happening is cancelled, we're in PEACE times now

>>508492593
fucking hell, being a zogbot fucking sucks ass

>>508488772
>Our superior tech will surely help us overcome the inevitable guerrillas this time around.
Don't enlist ameribro, even though you are retarded you don't deserve to get PTSD from the futility of counterinsurgency warfare.

>>508488580 (OP)
fuck out of my country spic!

>>508490037
The mutts still ignore the local cannon fodder that always gets sent to their deaths catching the bullets or the IEDs in their place.
Even with their slave army and absolute technical superiority they barely managed a 2:1 k/d ratio
> if we count the zogbots ack-ing themselves back home the Taliban win the points game

>>508489516
You're regime is running on inertia and fumes, we will witness the collapse of the American empire in our lifetimes insha Allah.

>>508489162
If you use nukes against a non-nuclear state, you are basically opening the gates for everyone else to use them (plus creating a global race to have nukes), which would include the ruskies using their overcompensating arsenal to vaporize ukranian corps.

>>508490312
Thats retarded. The only viable Iran Invasion strategy is one from the Caspian Sea, hold the mountains south of Tehran to defend your "coastal" port of Caspian sea. Requires being friends with Azerbaijan or being Russia.

>>508491051
The taliban will not get involved with this because their deal with america is that they wont care what america does outside of afghanistan and their only concern from now on (when kabul was handed over) will be to only fight isis-k and keept it from doing isis-k things and that's it, no more ummah no more global jihad, nothing. just fight isis-k, keept it from attacking americans or americas allies and america will let you do your thing in afghanistan without any american intervention whatsoever. This is basically what they agreed on in Doha before americans handed over kabul to the taliban few years ago

>>508499829
>No you don't understand I want to reply to your posts but discuss something you weren't talking about and strawman what you're saying
I don't care faggot. Nothing about what I said remarked that invading Iran would be easy, simply that it's been done repeatedly throughout history --including modern history-- so it is by no means impossible.

>Nice strawman. Now explain to me why invading Iran on behalf of the Zionists is actually pro-western. You can’t.
Are you genuinely honest-to-God retarded? Israel represents western interests in the area, and is commonly argued as the lynchpin for modern western idealism and imperialism. Opposing Israel et al is literally what anti-westernism is all about, that is only reason you would simp for Iran in this discussion. Don't be coy you little faggot

>>508488580 (OP)
"Nemo Me Impune Laccesit" ('No One Provokes Me With Impunity'). ! =)

>>508488580 (OP)
good luck ameribros

>>508499422
That's got nothing to do with what's happening now.

>>508501474
>I don't care faggot.
The seething oozing from your tone indicates otherwise. You still don’t understand implied arguments.
>Israel represents western interests in the area
No. Israel represents its own interests then drags the west into 20 year escapades into sand land so it can do its geopolitical dirty work for it.
>and is commonly argued as the lynchpin for modern western idealism and imperialism.
By idiots. What did we get for blindly supporting Israel? A decayed culture and western countries flooded with third world refuse. Some places are not even recognizable from 10 years ago. If that is “western impearlaism” than it is a embarrassment and you should be ashamed for blindly going along with it.
>Opposing Israel et al is literally what anti-westernism is all about, that is only reason you would simp for Iran in this discussion
Not wanting to get involved in another forever war for the kikes is not simping for Iran. The fact you think it is indicates you’re some kind of Zionist fuckwit who doesn’t understand a significant chunk of the western populace is tired of fighting wars on behalf of Israel. Why? We haven’t gotten shit out of it. They can fight their own fucking wars. They clearly have the capability to do it.

>>508504007
>You still don’t understand implied arguments.
Translation: "uhhhh what do you mean it's not impossible to invade THAT MEANS YOU THINK IT'S EASY"

>By idiots. What did we get for blindly supporting Israel? A decayed culture and western countries flooded with third world refuse. Some places are not even recognizable from 10 years ago. If that is “western impearlaism” than it is a embarrassment and you should be ashamed for blindly going along with it.
Holy fuck you are actually really retarded. I'm not arguing that Israel is beneficial for western nations, but they ARE the center and general face of western imperialism as one of the closest and most bellicose allies of the US, who is the arm of western imperialism.

>Not wanting to get involved in another forever war for the kikes is not simping for Iran.
Going to bat for and defending a country you know nothing about repeatedly displays clear bias. You don't know shit about Iran, yet you felt the need to defend it by arguing against a strawman that was not even being discussed apropos of...apparently nothing, if we are to believe you. To reiterate, you consummate idiot, I did not say that invading Iran would be easy, I said it would not be impossible.

>>508488580 (OP)
>America faces granite shortage for construction
>invades country made up entirely of granite mountains
Hmmmmm

>>508504997
>I’m too stupid to understand implied arguments so let me continue to act like a smug retard
Lmao
>I'm not arguing that Israel is beneficial for western nations
“Represents western interests in the area” and “lynchpin for modern western idealism” implies there is some kind of perceived benefit, fuckwit. You’re saying I’m anti-western for not blindly going along with Israel’s arena also implies this same perceived benefit. That being support of Israel is support of the west so let’s bomb Iran because reasons. Now you’re trying to say it’s not really a benefit, but rather just a face. You are not nearly as clever as you think you are so at least try to be consistent.
>but they ARE the center and general face of western imperialism
Thank you for tacitly admitting US foreign policy is to act in the interests of Israel and not itself.
>Going to bat for and defending a country you know nothing about repeatedly displays clear bias.
Saying “going to war with Iran on behalf of Israel is fucking retarded” is not defending Iran. Strawman harder.
>no ur strawmanning
You are spouting Zionist talking points and calling people simps for saying it is a bad idea to get involved in another Middle East conflict. There is no strawman. You are an idiot. It really is that simple. Try to hide behind all the smarmy bullshit you want. It is still plain to see.

>>508490312
That would be the best tactical approach. Keep the oil shipping lanes open and keep our own military landing zones simple with little need for assistance from other countries. Eventually, we'd have to deal with the mountains, but we should learn from Afghanistan. This part of the world is garbage collectors. We are going to be welcomed there by most of the trash collectors. We're a better source of trash.

I'd say to let them get bombed every few years until they finally realize how stupid it is to try to own nukes. It's still on the people to get their lives back. They were killing their women a few years ago. What's next? Kill some babies for being infidels?

>>508488772
houthis shotdown 3 fa 18 jet and 20 drone and you failed against them. now imagine iran.

>>508500959
Azerbaijan would be happy to engage in irredentism.

>>508506899
There was no implied argument. This entire reply chain has been you replying to a strawman. I have reiterated it to you repeatedly in plain English. I can only now assume you are arguing out of sheer determination to have the final say, because I have explicitly argued against what you believe I was saying.

>Thank you for tacitly admitting US foreign policy is to act in the interests of Israel and not itself.
Not tacitly, explicitly. I never argued otherwise. I am being serious when I say that you appear to be rather stupid. I'm not trying to insult you now, you genuinely seem rather unintelligent.

>Saying “going to war with Iran on behalf of Israel is fucking retarded” is not defending Iran. Strawman harder.
This conversation was NOT about whether going to war with Iran on behalf of Israel is a bad idea, at any point. In none of my replies have I ever even dimly supported a war with Iran.

>You are spouting Zionist talking points and calling people simps for saying it is a bad idea to get involved in another Middle East conflict. There is no strawman. You are an idiot. It really is that simple. Try to hide behind all the smarmy bullshit you want. It is still plain to see.
You are quite literally inventing strawmen out of thin air for things I never said. I have very plainly explained what I said and what I believe multiple times. I have no idea why you are continuing this farce, every single person that bothers reading our posts knows you are arguing with a fucking ghost lol

>>508507797
wtf are kurds doing in the northeast?

>>508507894
>no ur stupid
Ok retard.
>In none of my replies have I ever even dimly supported a war with Iran.
>but you’re an anti-western simp who is going to bat for Iran
>and ur strawmanning
See above. There you go running around with implications again. You could save yourself the paragraphs of bullshit by actually thinking about your posts.
>I have very plainly explained what I said and what I believe multiple times
No, all you’ve done is flail and post smug anime girls in a vain effort appear intelligent. It’s sad, really.

>>508508864
Me pointing out that you are anti-western DOESN'T mean that I'm pro-western, insofar as western culture is concerned with Israeli hegemony. I have explicitly and repeatedly explained that I was arguing in relation to the argument that invading Iran is impossible. It is not impossible, and has been done repeatedly in the past, and even in modern day less than a century ago. There is not a single time I ever argued in favor of invading Iran, and if you think that is the case because I disagreed with your ignorant defense of a nation's history you know nothing of that reflects poorly on your character and not mine. There is not a single sentence or line that I have said in this entire topic in which I argued for it, because I am AGAINST pointless invasions. I detest Israel, but am completely capable of discussing a topic without frothing at the mouth about it.

Again, you seem incredibly dim. If you need help with any of this let me know, maybe I can try and draw you a colorful picture to make it easier for you to comprehyend.

>>508496373
I can recount Alexander, the Mongols and Soviet Union + Strongest British army ever.
Those groups of invaders were absolute legends of their time, Romans literally spent centuries in cold war with Persia.

>>508488580 (OP)
The population is near 100 million and they'll all be fighting. America can't even kick out our 100 million beaners.

>>508489778
>k/d ratio
Let me guess only the amerimutt figures are correct? and it includes brown civilians?
Lol
Lol

>>508509588
>Me pointing out that you are anti-western DOESN'T mean that I'm pro-western, insofar as western culture is concerned with Israeli hegemony.
I’m not anti-western. I’m anti-israel. That being said instantly throwing around insults and asking me not to be coy about beliefs you are literally projecting because you perceive some anti-western thoughts in my posts before walking back the tone of the insult this fucking hard does not make me believe you detest Israel at all. It indicates you’ll say anything to save face like the smarmy faggot you are. It also indicates you really have no ability to actually think about what you write which is an unironic sign of demonstrably lower intelligence. You are a monkey with a typewriter.
>but am completely capable of discussing a topic without frothing at the mouth about it.
>U KNOW NOTHING AND R A SIMP
>LOOK AT MY SMUG ANIME GIRL
Every post of yours in this thread indicates otherwise.

>>508488580 (OP)
Iran was conquered many times in history with horses and spears armies.

>>508509773
>Romans literally spent centuries in cold war with Persia.
Yeah but that's because they had other pressing matters and Crassus fucked up majorly by being a complete moron consumed by his own legend. If Caesar hadn't been assassinated he 100% would have kicked their asses imo. Trajan did so not even 2 centuries later, though of course that turned into a quagmire after the fact.

>>508511631
Rome and the Ottoman Empire had European frontiers to defend they never had enough military resources to properly finish Persia off.

>>508511495
>I’m not anti-western. I’m anti-israel
When all western nations' culture revolves around the propagation of Jewish sensibilities, Anti-Israeli is anti-western. I threw around insults because you barged into a discussion and put words in my mouth, then proceeded to continue arguing against that point of view despite me clearing up your mischaracterization in my first response to you. This post is now you saying "you don't dislike Israel and you want to invade Iran, despite you explicitly saying otherwise from the start, because it pains my butthole to acknowledge that Iran can possibly be conquered." What the fuck else am I supposed to take from your statements lol, you really just want to get the last word in this argument be honest

>>508488580 (OP)
At least we know where God is buried

>>508488580 (OP)
An invasion would be retarded, but if we did it would probably entail hundreds of thousands of drones patrolling 24/7 with minimal ground forces.

You fucking ass clowns. The US isn't invading Iran. No way Donnie gets approval.

Go back to your OTHER fantasy world of getting pegged by a dude dressed up as a chick.

>>508488580 (OP)
it will be their third vietnam if they try, after afghanistan.

>>508512116
>When all western nations' culture revolves around the propagation of Jewish sensibilities, Anti-Israeli is anti-western.
Governments do not equate culture and in the later stage of an empire they generally don’t reflect anything of the culture which built them. You should understand this being a supposed student of history who knows more than I.
>I threw around insults because you barged into a discussion and put words in my mouth, then proceeded to continue arguing against that point of view despite me clearing up your mischaracterization in my first response to you
There was no mischaracterization. You knee-jerked to facts which made the most recent successful invasion of Iran and went full retard with it when the point went right over your head. All of this could be avoided if you actually exercised critical thought.
>This post is now you saying "you don't dislike Israel and you want to invade Iran, despite you explicitly saying otherwise from the start, because it pains my butthole to acknowledge that Iran can possibly be conquered."
No, it’s calling you an inconsistent idiot who will say anything to save face. You may very well detest Israel but your posts don’t indicate that.
>you really just want to get the last word in this argument be honest
No, I make my living picking apart what smug retards say. So naturally I do it for fun as well. You’re taking a website designed to waste time far too seriously which is hilarious coming from somebody who says they don’t care.

>>508512573

Based jeet killer

>>508514465
>Governments do not equate culture and in the later stage of an empire they generally don’t reflect anything of the culture which built them. You should understand this being a supposed student of history who knows more than I.
Governments by an large are a reflection of their culture, and vice versa. You are coping like crazy right now trying to pretend that western interests in the middle east are not diametrically opposed to Iran solely on the basis of maintaining Israeli supremacy.

>There was no mischaracterization. You knee-jerked to facts which made the most recent successful invasion of Iran and went full retard with it when the point went right over your head. All of this could be avoided if you actually exercised critical thought.
There was a complete mischaracterization. I replied initially to someone that mistakenly claimed that Iran could not be invaded, which was totally false and comically so given the multiple times they have been successfully attacked throughout history, even up to and including the modern era.

>No, it’s calling you an inconsistent idiot who will say anything to save face. You may very well detest Israel but your posts don’t indicate that.
WHICH position of mine doesn't indicate that? The one where I admit the simple fact that invading Iran isn't even remotely close to being impossible? And you take issue with me being skeptical of why you disagree with that stance?

>No, I make my living picking apart what smug retards say. So naturally I do it for fun as well. You’re taking a website designed to waste time far too seriously which is hilarious coming from somebody who says they don’t care.
Translation: "I will reply to every single post you make until this thread 404's solely so I can have the last post, because you made me angry at disagreeing with a point of view that you don't even hold." Okay retard, go ahead and reply away I'm shitposting while at work lol

>>508488580 (OP)
What was Iran/Persia making money from before oil?

>>508515663
Rugs? Shit passing through the Silk Road?

>>508497416
>the last time Iran was invaded was
1980, Iraq.

>>508499904
Sure could, but it would require wiping everyone out. We don't operate that way, yet.

>>508515322
>Governments by an large are a reflection of their culture, and vice versa
No they are not. Initially they do but as time goes on they become a reflection of who is in power who may not even remotely be related to the culture. For example, the Zionists who insist on getting involved in pointless middle easter wars that are enormously unpopular because of a delusional rapture prophecy that was literally designed and pushed by Zionists to get support from Zionism. The Ted Cruz types of dumb fucks.
>trying to pretend western interests in the middle east are not diametrically opposed to Iran solely on the basis of maintaining Israeli supremacy.
Given the fact the West is absolutely fucked right now with multiple domestic crises that need to be addressed before anther GWOT disaster is taken on, no. It is in the interest of Israel. Not in the interest in the west. Your Duginesque conflation of weatern and semetic interests will not change that. Much of this has to do with the capture of governments by Zionists but that is an entierly different discussion.
>even up to and including the modern era.
Yeah, and when I brought up the factors which made that successful you sperged. It is comical to think Iran has never successfully been invaded but it is also comical to do what you’re doing when simple historical facts are bought up in the context of why those invasions were successful. You went so far to call it irrelevant which is insane.
>WHICH position of mine doesn't indicate that?
It’s not the positions per se. it is the indignant way you act when you encounter positions that are not aligned with yours while claiming your above it all and don’t care yet think discussion is a waste of time. You are a pig wallowing it shut while insisting you’re not one. This is exemplified by you saying:
>reply away I'm shitposting while at work lol
What the fuck do you think I’m doing? I’ll ask it again. Where do you think you are. 4chan is not super serious.

>>508489516
half of all americans born are part flip
the other half are niggers

>>508489242
We secured the country for 20 years. The issue is occupation because we go in with no real goal.
>Invade country
>Topple government
>Set up elections
>???
>Modern liberal democracy

Really wjat we should have done in Iraq is found a shiite strongman said "Here's 2,000 outdated tanks, 500 outdated planes, 20,000 M114s, and whatever we captured from Iraq. You're in charge, if you try to build WMDs we'll execute you like Saddam." With Afghanistan we should have done the same thing with a Northern Alliance warlord. This isn't fucking Nazi Germany where you had a long history of political stability and intellectualism followed by less then a decade of autocracy, these are countries which never had anything resembling a functioning electoral system, something which even the German Empire had.

>>508488580 (OP)

I just wonder how many thousand mutts will face their end there, like the good goyim they are. It's time to die for Israel, Amerimutt golems. The best part is that they will likely lose the war too - imagine dying in Persia for your Jewish masters only to achieve fuckall nothing. Sucks to be an Amerimutt.

>>508518789
>No they are not. Initially they do but as time goes on they become a reflection of who is in power who may not even remotely be related to the culture.
We are not a monarchy but a representative democracy. The people elected are tacitly endorsed by the American public. They are a reflection the culture, vice versa. Zionism is deeply embedded in American culture, do you think these people are grown from pods? No, they are raised with zionist ideals

>Given the fact the West is absolutely fucked right now with multiple domestic crises that need to be addressed before anther GWOT disaster is taken on, no. It is in the interest of Israel. Not in the interest in the west. Zionists
Once again, for what I believe is the THIRD time, "western interests" does not refer to something that is GOOD for western countries. It means that they are involved in the region for their agenda, which in this case (and in most cases) serves a Zionist agenda.

>Yeah, and when I brought up the factors which made that successful you sperged
no, I very clearly pointed out that what you were debating against was not at all what I believed or said, and that it was simply comically inaccurate to claim that Iran is impossible to invade. I made it extremely clear, you have since responded a dozen times refusing to accept what I said because you are intent on having the last post. Iran is not special. Its mountains don't make its people uniquely impossible to kill.

>It’s not the positions per se
So to be clear, at no point have I even remotely suggested that it is beneficial to invade Iran, which I would not say because I don't believe that to be true.

>4chan is not super serious.
4chan is SRS BSNS