Why are communists like this? Why does self made wealthy person gotta pay taxes?

>>508493077 (OP)
>self made
doesn't exist
Unless you know an artisan making the entire world's supply of a hypercritical component in hisnl garage, not possible.

Lol they have to add some sneer additude to it

>>508493237
>doesn't exist
>Unless you know an artisan making the entire world's supply of a hypercritical component in hisnl garage, not possible.
Literally created amazon from his garage and now communists think they are entitled to his wealth.

>Self made
No such thing. Your ability to amass large amounts of money is dependent on recognition of your ability to collect economic rent. When you have people work for you, and you collect the profits from them, those people could simply take your business and its property from you were it not for the state. You have no right to complain that the state collects its protection fee.

As is, communists do not want a state and taxes. We want to eliminate parasitism in its entirety. We want you to not be rich, because you cannot make a profit off of owning things. ONLY your work should count.

>>508493077 (OP)
>If you are an overachiever you are obligated to take care of underachievers like pets
No.

>>508493077 (OP)
I dont get it, allot of people go to venice for weddings? even the people living there do they need to pay more taxes?

why should I care what other people are paying in taxes.
What matters to me is what I'M paying.

>>508493764
>Only the product of your own two hands is something you can profit from
I guess that’s why the commies always starve to death huh. Kulak death spirals and eventually you are attacking a guy who just owns something you want - which is why it never works. Do you think the chink or the Soviet ever owned the product of their labor? Lmao even

When the elites hoard all the wealth, that's how French Revolutions happen.

>>508494118
commies think that how hard something is for them determines how much it should be worth to other people, because they are retarded

>>508493077 (OP)
They do pay taxes, far more than the average person will ever conceivably pay in ten life times. The thing that commies don't get is that income =/= net worth. And you wouldn't want to have assets taxed, because the second you open that up, the government will do it to the poor too. Income tax was originally conceived as a tax for the rich, but once the genie was out of the bottle...

Imagine having your 401k taxed. Imagine paying an annual car tax. Play some penny stocks? You have to pay for them even if you don't withdraw them. You're paying real money for unrealized gains.

Any politician telling you we need to tax the rich more is just a kike trying to get the ignorant to agree to introducing new ways to tax all Americans.

I agree with other commenters about no such thing as self-made. I hate niggers who promote being self-made, but I also think paying taxes is gay. The libtards who scream to tax the rich would 100% flip if they we're making a lot of money. It's always the poor retard who things taxing the wealthy is going to solve anything. We already tax wealthy people and it's gotten us no where. Retards.

>>508494349
>And you wouldn't want to have assets taxed, because the second you open that up, the government will do it to the poor too
>Imagine paying an annual car tax
do you not own a car or a house? property is taxed to shit in America

>>508493595
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Bezos

>>508494349
>you're a kike if you want to tax rich kikes
This is what a goypitalist bootlicker looks like

>>508493595
The people he hired along the way to build his websites, design his logistics, manage his business, and other mid-to-upper level roles - did he pay for the K - 12 education?
The method of delivery he used to send books before he created Amazon Prime - all him, or postal service paid for by the public?
The roads he uses for those delivery - private, owned by him? Or public, paid for by public funds?
His warehouses in the early years, before he could afford security teams - did he defend them himself or did he rely on publicly-funded police backed by publicly-funded penal systems?
I could go on and on.
It's funny how you guys love the fruits of public infrastructure and have no problem with people using them to profit but start crying when these people are asked to help pay for services which continue to benefit and make their businesses possible today.

>>508493077 (OP)
Because people can't afford homes or health care while wealthy people inefficiently spend their money on things like hiring semi-literate half wits like yourself to shit up the internet with billionaire fellating propaganda.

>>508493077 (OP)
NIGGER KYS

>>508493077 (OP)
They're mad that his companies get huge government tax breaks or subsidies. The irony is that these conditions exist largely because corporations can easily influence our government to do their bidding. The solution proposed by the leftist retards is a greater degree of government control, regulation, and oversight. They all think that just giving more control and authority to the very government that is fucking them in the asshole will magically solve the problem.

they're full of resentment and don't understand economies.

>>508493077 (OP)
jewish thread. kys

>>508493077 (OP)
because they are themselves hyper materialistic bitches who care for vanity shit

I have zero desire to even travel venice, let alone rent it, nor do I have a desire to own a private jet or to to "travel" (getting ripped off my monies by scummy persons and companies who pretend to like me, modern day travel is not like in the old days) anywhere

so I don't envy those billionaires for doing stupid expensive but ultimately boring stuff, it's pointless, I've got the peace of mind and real actual friends that they lack and those things you just can't buy

those commies are just poor capitalists and thus they are seethinghagening hard when somebody shows they've got the monies and capital they so much desire but currently fail to possess

>>508493077 (OP)
>self made wealthy
if theres was a thing id agree with the radical left would be that billionaires shouldn't exist. they contribute nothing, total leachers, like jews.

>>508493237
Notch nigger.

>>508493077 (OP)
Just remember, wealth is a relative part of a whole pie.
The more wealth someone has in comparison to you, the more leverage they have.
People underestimate the difference in leverage between themselves and billionaires.
https://eattherichtextformat.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/

>>508493595
>Literally created amazon from his garage
The company is worth billions because of its extraction of wealth from it's workers. Consolidation that wealth at the top VS paying the workers a fair wage for their labor. That's not to say leadership should not gain some profit but no where to the level we are seeing now.
Meanwhile people can't afford homes or in many cases even rent. Due to decades of stagnate wages despite productive constantly been going up. We are being fisted by the wealthy. Something has to change.

>>508496087
Copied Infiniminer by Zachtronics

>>508493077 (OP)
Why does OP simp (for free) for Billionaires?

Why does wanting the rich to pay their fair share make someone a communist?

Genuinely curious please respond OP or I will assume this is a troll thread.

>>508496831
All IP is copied. Literally nothing is completely original unless you spent your entire life in a empty room completely isolated from the rest of the world like the joseph fritzl rape dungeon.

>>508493077 (OP)
They make a good point but it doesn't make sense for Italian communists to be making this point about an American billionaire spending money in their country.

>>508493077 (OP)
Because wealthy people need to give back to the society that allowed then to build massive wealth.
Any rich person that doesn't wanna do this is a jew traitor and should be hanged

>>508493764
>We want you to not be rich
Fuck that and fuck you. I want to be rich. Communism is garbage

>>508497497
Most people do. Wanting to be is one thing, though, but odds are very heavy that you're not a temporarily embarrassed billionaire.
Given that, why the fuck would you support policies that work to your economic disadvantage? You're hurting your chances at ever becoming wealthy. Not improving them.

>>508493077 (OP)
>self made

Yeah, with just a little help from his billionaire parents.
How can anyone believe this garbage ,then look at himself in the mirror as if he was a serious person?

>>508497466
>>508494775

Does the man not own the sweat of his brows? At what point does billionaire can stop giving back to society and just keep what he rightfully earned?

>>508498662
>rightfully earned

>>508498662
You honestly think he worked this much harder than you?
https://eattherichtextformat.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/

there's a difference between rich and excessively rich.

Excessively rich is at the cost of someone. Theyre take take taking.

There's literally no reason to defend the disgustingly rich. You'll never be one of them. You'll never hit the lottery. You'll never get any of their money. They don't share it with their workers.

>>508498662
You really think there's any billionaire "sweating"?
Once you get to that level of wealth you can hire people to run shit for you and your money just keeps making more money while you vacation in Costa Rica and fuck big booty Latinas all day.

>>508494349
>Imagine having your 401k taxed.
You mean like they already are you fucking retard?

> Imagine paying an annual car tax
We do retard I just paid $300 last month

Anybody defending the rich from their taxes is the biggest retard in the world. You will work until the day you die and you will own nothing like the retard that you are

>>508493077 (OP)
If you control 90% of the wealth then you should be paying 90% of the taxes. It's that simple

>>508498963
And theyre literally the reason the political system is in turmoil. They push their money into making politicians think they have more pull and voting power than YOU do.

Theyre the ones pushing law changes that only benefit them at the expense of your water... your land... your clean environment.

>>508498963
>Excessively rich is at the cost of someone. Theyre take take taking.
They're not just take take taking.
They're take take taking from you and me.
Yes, even those of you simping for them. That money is at your expense.

>>508499117
they tax it when you pull it out. But their shit is grinding it into dust so nobody can get wealthy like them. They make swings and the entire market tanks: IE Trump.

>>508498963
(I know you're not simping for them. I was just speaking generally)

>>508493077 (OP)
Fuck rich kikes and fuck you, take their fucking money.

>>508499296
Not only do they not pay their workers a fair wage, they don't pay their fair share of taxes. These idiots defending them don't understand that they profit off the infrastructure we pay taxes for and they don't pay to help keep the infrastructure from deteriorating. If Bezos, Musk and Zuckerberg paid their fair share of taxes and their employees a fair wage then people wouldn't be working until 70, needing food stamps, etc.

>>508493077 (OP)
Lots of people "can" pay more tax, but why should they? Why should anybody? Anybody who is in favour of higher taxes at this point should just be gulag'ed.

>>508499528
>they don't pay their fair share of taxes
They pay way more in taxes than standard person. they absolutely don't have shell companies set up.

>>508499528
Well said.
The other frustrating part is that these simps don't understand that no one is arguing that people shouldn't be allowed to be wealthy.
You can live a life of unimaginable luxury with "only" hundreds of millions of dollars. Most of us are okay with that.
But when someone gets into the billions territory they control an unfathomable amount of the economic pie. And that control, by definition, is control that the rest of us don't get to have.
And it's control that's used to squeeze even more money out of us. Why anyone would make excuses for people who want to lower their standard of living is well beyond me.

>>508499296
Examples:


Nestlé using the local community's water to sell bottled.

Elon/Space X is shooting garbage into the atmosphere that keeps making more space junk. He is polluting our direct atmosphere to the point its starting to interfere with astronomers work studying space.

Walton Family/Walmart is pushing every other retailer below them out of business with unfair pricing and choking off at the supplier level.

ZuckMeta/Facebook destroying everywhere around where their data centers are for Ai.

>>508499880
They make their money at the rest of our expenses and use public infrastructure to make it possible.
You didn't answer me earlier. Do you *really* think Jeff Bezos works this much harder than you?
https://eattherichtextformat.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/

No. He makes his money squeezing as much money out of as many people as possible and is able to do it on an unfathomable scale where it doesn't feel like much because people like you refuse to reign him in.

>>508499937
ALSO most of Amazon, Walmart, and McDonalds employees are on Medicaid and foodstamps.
So in not paying them fairly those execs
make more on your dime directly.

And you can't even blame the immigrants, they pay taxes/social security too and don't get it refunded

>>508499880
Do you know how much the rich got taxed during America's "golden age" in the 50s?
It was 90%
Do you know how much they get taxed now?
37%

>>508499977
>>508500197
Great examples.

>>508493077 (OP)
Oh man I sure do love 'grassroots' movements that are directly funded by George 'I Made Money Selling My People Off' Soros and are absurdly well-run, organized, and come with high-quality protesting & rioting materials. It's sure nice to know some fat, midwit billionaire who just isn't smart or flexible enough to change the shape of his pottery so it would sell to everyone is yet again pushing nonsense at the behest of the penniless shadow jew mafioso families because they're mad they don't rule the world yet.

hate kikes so much it's unreal. if only their gay ops were more fun, it'd be at least tolerable.

>>508499880
they don't pay taxes on a scale they should be paying it on.

They seriously should not be buying multiple mega yachts and island houses. If they live outside of the USA they shouldn't be allowed to do business in the USA like you America First people want.

Literally Elon tried to sway elections and bribe people so that he could get more government contracts and control the government as a foreigner and the red hats said SURE LETS HAVE HIM AS CO PRESIDENT.

>>508493077 (OP)
Cutting through the shit mist, corporations SHOULD pay taxes based on the burden they create on infrastructure and resources. Natural resources SHOULD be regulated as if they were the property of the country and not that of private owners. Corporate leaders who are paid for their rockstar talents SHOULD be taxed more because they aren't actually producing measurable results for the community, particularly if they moved up the ranks for being a dull, 6'4" lurch who always gets promoted for their talent of escorting people out of the building.

With that in mind, scientific research patents SHOULD be the property of the company or government that funded it. Authors and actors, bankers and stock investors SHOULD be paid and taxed based on the results of the product's income and not negotiated in advance based on name recognition.

This isn't about rewarding hard work. It's about rewarding those who take risks. This goes all the way down to your local office where sales reps guard their customers and expect new hires to get the trash cold calls until they pay their dues.

We have a democracy, but our economics is more monarchistic, and the monopolies have turned it into shit dynasties that aren't functional. Rome is about to fall, but it's not going to be the Senators that kill Caesar. It's the clueless Communists who don't know the crime lords from the folk heroes.

You're going to stay home and play computer games. You're not going to learn about your community. You're going to answer posts like this with a vacuous "lol" as if doing it anyway makes you the life of the party. OK? Done and done!

>>508500159
>Do you *really* think Jeff Bezos works this much harder than you?
this is a communist question but I will humor it, yes he works harder than me. if he didn't why would he be billionaire and not me?

>>508500286
>Do you know how much the rich got taxed during America's "golden age" in the 50s?
>It was 90%
>Do you know how much they get taxed now?
>37%
what you are saying is the communist regime has been taken down? good. capitalism is good even if we can't have a house, have wife and kids on regular job like we used to.

>>508494775
Would those same people share any of the loss and debt if Amazon failed?

>>508500948
Lol nice bait.

>>508493077 (OP)
Why is it always Bezos? Don't the know any other rich guy?

>>508493077 (OP)
>self-made
Had a little help from Pfizer, Faucci, U.S. ZOG, and the rest of his tribe to transfer $3 Trillion of wealth from shut down middle class small business to his exempt & subsidized package delivery racket.

>>508500664
Literally?

Elon is an autistic who climbed a tree he couldn't get down. MAGA resented him for his tantum to open the gates to any Indian he wanted for his business. He tried to save face like every other alpha monkey and ended up breaking things and spitting at Trump. He blew it.

Trump had one job for him. He was to be the 6'4" lurch whose job was to escort people out of the building. It doesn't work the same in government. They both had another autistic moment.

>>508501224
There aren't that many

>>508501026
Worse! They pay for all of the roads and planes used to ship his stuff.

I don't really mind Amazon if I'm shopping for things that I'll never find in the brick and mortar stores, but they are going to always be looking for the cheap slave labor and "screw the shipping costs."

>>508501739
Where is Larry Fink?

>>508501026
I see where you are going with this and it's a solid point, but no one is arguing that Bezos shouldn't be allowed to have a large share of the return on the risks he's taking.
Having hundreds of millions of dollars is still fabulously wealthy. When it's billions, your success is starting to cut into the economic leverage of the rest of us who help make it possible.

>>508500514
>muh jewish marxism.
die you jidf cunts.

>>508501026
Also, yes they would because, if Amazon were to face a crisis that threatened to wipe it out tomorrow, you can bet there would be a government bailout (using our tax dollars) to bail them out so that their collapse doesn't shake the market too hard.
Not saying that's right, just that it's how it's worked in the past.

>>508501995
You're not allowed to talk about him.

>>508501995
Who knows. Probably hiding his wealth overseas.
https://beinsure.com/ranking/us-billionaires/

>>508498662
>rightfully earned?
Tell me what "rightfully" entails. Please give me the definition and moral prerequisites for their money to be "rightful."
You faggots love flowery language but put substance to it for once.

>>508501224
Because they literally have most of the wealth in the world.
They've gamed the system so hard they literally have most of it.

>>508500948
>>Do you really think Jeff Bezos works *THIS* much harder than you?
>this is a communist question but I will humor it, yes he works harder than me. if he didn't why would he be billionaire and not me?
Not what I asked.
Read the original question (edited in green text to clarify what I meant), look at the chart (here, so you don't have to scroll up: https://eattherichtextformat.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/), then try answering the question again.

>>508493077 (OP)
>ey bro,
>yeah ese?
>you got the 200 foot banner?
>you bet, vato
>alright I'll call the helicopter in for press, lets go get some attention
>okay wey

>>508503458
It sounds nice to people who never think about these things.
But it's not just numbers on a screen. Their dollars chase the same scarce resources as the rest of us, meaning they lay far easier claim on them.
Maybe inconsequential when we're talking about beer or loaves of bread because no one's going to buy that much beer or bread. Much more consequential when we're talking about purchasing politicians and critical services.

>>508493077 (OP)
>self made wealthy
this isn't a thing, the environment you reside in decides your ability to make wealth, just ask jack ma. therefore you should pay tribute to that environment by paying more fucking tax so that the potholes get fixed.

>>508493077 (OP)
>taxes
fake and gay


GET IN HERE
>>508502744
>>508502744
>>508502744

>>508493077 (OP)
They think that net worth is equal to yearly profit for some reason, anyway canada is raising capital gains from 25 to 50 so we can all be assured that there will never be a single investment in this nation from a canadian
Follow suit lefties of the world

>>508504100
Who the hell would ever invest money in Canada? Even before that law.
It's a meme country

>>508504405
>Who the hell would ever invest money in Canada
Canada isnt the focal you dipshit tripfag