Thread 508601027

i feel like the level of technology, size of government and the increasing state of pacification and distraction make it very unlikely in a modern country.
as long as people can distract themselves on their phone and sit in an air conditioned room and got some pizza pockets in the fridge. i think they will take just about anything quite frankly.

what would it take?

>>508601027 (OP)
Yes, it will happen everywhere in the West.
An Islamic Revolution, that is.

>>508601027 (OP)
unfortunately the fascists are far more well organised, and better equipped. its basically a hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby type of deal

Probably the pizza pockets running out...

Revolution seldom actually works. It can, but rarely are new social systems brought about through organized violence. Coups are common, most “revolutions” are coups with better branding. Not all, but most. Most governments collapse, rather than being overthrown

>>508601027 (OP)
The Revolution has already started

https://youtu.be/4J5wr13HhMQ

>>508601027 (OP)
It was never possible without full judeo-masonic support

Revolutions only succeed when the army allows them.

>>508601500
Checked. Basically this.

>>508601581
https://youtu.be/Gd7LFLhHE7U

>>508601027 (OP)
Revolution is never the right thing to do. That is, violent revolutions. True change starts with solid ideas, built on reason, and the readiness to be that change yourself.
also, anything is possible if enough kike banks are bankrolling

>>508601027 (OP)
not while diabeatus has food on the table

Western society is collapsing.
The future for white people is bleak.

>>508601879
>The future for white people is bleak.
all it takes is for some racial solidarity and all the power of the state would return to us

VICTORY

https://youtu.be/3Yuqxl284cg

>>508601027 (OP)
As your demography becomes worse, your infrastructure will follow, once infrastructure collapses, it doesn't matter how massive the government is.

>>508601027 (OP)
kek
Revolutions were never possible, think harder.

>rightists wondering where the revolution is

psst -- you're on the wrong side

>>508601145
>unfortunately the fascists are far more well organised, and better equipped.
We are?

>>508602115
"The West" / Capitalism / White Nationalists have already lost. You literally picked the wrong side

>>508601027 (OP)
Revolution depends entirely on 2 factors: 1. A counter elite 2. A majority male demographic that is below age 30.
All revolution is born from the lower elite and the upper middle class when they don't think they have any opportunity to advance up the social hierarchy. Once they reach this state they begin to create an army from lower class men using various rhetoric but the motives are always self-interest for the advancement of their class.
There is some evidence we have counter elite in the West as upper middle class upper over educated millennials resent the boomer elites who refuse to retired.
However, the age of the average American male is about 40 so this counter elite will have to wait until the mid 2030s when the demographic shift away from the boomers. It will not likely be a revolution by then White minority but by the HB1 visa Elite and vast number of "New Americans/Europeans" brought in by Musk and X-er who by then will be hated as much as the Boomers.
It will a "Race Revolution" in the USA and an Islamic Revolution in Europe.
There is no such thing as migrant to an already settled country. All mass migration is invasion by young hostile foreign males.

>>508601027 (OP)
Revolution is possible if it's State sponsored, like what Mao did during the Cultural Revolution.

you picked Trump as your leader

big mistake. huge

>>508601027 (OP)
It's concerning how there are more and more threads about this.

>>508601027 (OP)
I have faith that the muslims will do something about it.
Don't even care if they win because unlike with being a jew I can at least become a muslim.

they picked Trump as their revolutionary leader, hahahahaha

I've read somewhere it only takes 3.5% of the population to successfully revolt

Dunno how true that is

>>508601141
That's a dumber pipedream than most of the shit posted on this board. You muds are retarded

>>508601027 (OP)
The french revolution and most revolutions for that matter are masonic backed though.

>>508602768
intelligent people tend to support social progress, it's true

hateful idiots get baited into supporting their own destruction, which is what has happened to you.

>>508602504
well with class divide growing, racial divide deepening, and the sex divide becoming insurmountable for many, and with whispers of WW3 in the air.
it seems like a natural thing to start wondering about.

>>508601141
You guys are imported specifically to be better slaves who won't rebel

hey pol, if 90% of us are not white, why do we not simply execute the 10% that wants to enslave us

>calling Lucifer himself a "Malta-Nigger"

white nationalists have really fucked up. you're gonna die now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYqoTU_vnkI

>>508601027 (OP)
You need to groom a general or admiral with enough gravitas to sway his entire command or base, and other generals.
Or get a bunch of state governors to activate their national guard and use them to occupy federal buildings and siege washington

people will fall in line.

>>508601027 (OP)
you just need balls

>>508602853
The figureheads of the french revolution aren't intelligent they were just manipulative. The people were extra retarded.

Yes.

>>508603932
the people on the right are afraid of:

-women
-vaccines
-anyone with a tan
-mind control rays

>>508603399
Then you starve. Because worthless shitskins were enslaved by the 10% centuries ago and couldn't do anything about it, so your odds aren't in your favour.

>>508601027 (OP)
You don’t want revolution revolutions are nightmares

Liberal democracy is a shitshow and cussed mass war deaths for the last 200 years

We need to go back to kings

rightists are fear/hate based people

>>508601027 (OP)
french revolution was elitist capitalist taking power of nobility it’s not romantic it was planned and funded

All of these technology systems are balanced on a house of cards. Take one card and the entire system collapses. Technology in a civil war is a crutch not and advantage

>>508604357
pharaohs

>>508603932
Nobody will sacrifice themselves for the greater good because most people no longer have enough roots or connections to society to care.
Worse yet, most are actually resentful to society around them in general.
Nobody is dying for muh white race aside from lunatics with no self preservation instinct.
It is unfortunate.

>>508604680
i.e. enlightened rule by scientist-priests

>>508601027 (OP)
yes, but it would have to start from within the military thats why they recruit so many subhumans as a preventative measure

> Meme flag + namefag
Cringe

the golden age, when the ruling class was composed of vegetarian philosopher-mathematicians, and leisure reigned

>>508604320
Don't bother responding to that retard, it's literally Elon and he gets one (you) for every 50 low iq posts he makes, it's sad really.

>>508604733
>>508604680
That’s what we have had since ww2 and it’s given us pregnant men and fuck white peopel

No thanks

>>508602768
There was nothing wrong in XVIII century masonry, it was just the bourgeoise response to the absolute monarchy and it's repression

>>508601027 (OP)
It was never really possible to begin with. Revolutions only really worked when backed by external powers or when the real ruling class wanted to replace a figurehead ruling class. For example all the various "color revolutions" pushed by US zionists, or the various communist revolutions pushed by the USSR etc. Even if you do manage to pull of a real revolution that isn't just a proxy for a foreign power, the most abstract the thing you are trying to overthrow, the more likely your revolution will become corrupt and create a "meet the new boss..." scenario. For example revolutions against particular kings are often successful, but revolutions against the abstract concept of monarchy are more likely to fail (most republics end up with an informal aristocracy) and revolutions against even more abstract concepts like "capitalism" are even more likely to fail (most communist revolutions resulted in everything and everyone becoming the private property of some dictator) etc.

>>508605073
i have blonde hair and green eyes and have been told i am "not white"

fuck white people

>>508601418
as the OP i should respond to the obvious answer and often the basis for most revolutions.
perhaps your right when food feels scarce in some way. but i also feel with the progression of society, and with the greater insight and clarity of which we can perceive those in power behavior, that our standards would increase in kinds.
but maybe that's wrong, or at least can't be presumed quite so much.

>>508601500
i agree with this as well. at least violent revolutions tend to put in charge violent and/or oppressive people.
though the willingness to revolt should still exist. and the degree of pacification and level of distraction has somewhat eliminated the fear of violence the government should have of it's people.
and so i wonder, just what it would take for that fear to be realized or at least confronted as a possibility

>>508605066
I'm literally NOT ELON, moron

>>508601764

Shut up fag

>>508605296
this chart says u only have 2 weeks left to live

>>508605185
explain the American revolution then

>>508605673
The american revolution was heavily backed france etc. It also seems to have failed in the end as the US now has it's own informal ruling dynasties that have most of the powers of aristocracy with none of the responsibilities.

>>508604077
Which Revolution are you refering to? 1789? 1830? 1848? All have different causes and protagonists. The one shown in OP gave us the Second Empire.

>>508605187
>I have engaged in the madness of modern leftist social mysticism

Yeah it’s retarded and so are you for buying it

bump..
what does it take god damnit

>>508606302
nazis told me i'm not white, now they have to live with that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmc8bQoL-J0

>>508601764
naive brainlet fag

>entire thread is a namefag spamming 21 posts under a meme flag
MEDS

>>508603932
Very insightful. The biggest issue today though is that cameras and tracking in general is everywhere, and you cannot do this kind of thing without contacts, a community that will protect you as naturally as they breathe. With so much individualism these days, it's pretty much impossible to pull off. Boomers were already calling the cops on you in 2020 for not wearing a face-diaper.

>as long as people can distract themselves on their phone and sit in an air conditioned room and got some pizza pockets in the fridge.

This quality of life is only possible if the government is well functioning.

>>508608482
not only are you not white but a nigger as well

>>508610096
https://youtu.be/EMTUvyAB3zE

>>508610040
The government will function for a long while. Technology means an extreme minority of people doing the real work can support an overwhelming number of non-workers. With AI and robots, this is only going to get even more egregious. We don't need workers, if we had an NS Aryan ethnostate tomorrow, it wouldn't have work like in Germany 90 years ago, we'd have UBI, we'd work at most a couple hours a day because there simply isn't much work to do. Working for the sake of it is jewish brainwashing, which is particularly ridiculous when the boomers tell you to work hard when they never did, they were all absolute fucking NEETs with fake jobs in an ethnostate getting paid mountains of gold for it, and they act like you refusing to frequent niggers all day and getting the slightest gibs is unforgivable parasitism.

>>508605296
>>508610715
I am the Morning Star.

>>508601027 (OP)
revolution only happens when it's directed and financed by wealthy elites. a mob of commoners isn't going to do anything

>>508601027 (OP)
yes its possible. Americans just have too many comforts they don't wanna be without now

>>508601027 (OP)
>what would it take?
A sustained power outage and all the distractions in life being deleted. Do you have any idea how violent the world would be if video games didn't exist? So many men waste their natural aggressive instincts on viddies instead of flipping cars over.

>>508601027 (OP)
>>what would it take?
Call a couple of hard pipe hitting tweakers to go to work on the network with a pair of grinders and a blow torch.

>>508601027 (OP)
You would need to design a super intelligent AI that steals all the worlds money and gives it to you. Once you crashed the world economy with the AI everyone else will go haywire

>>508601027 (OP)
Revolution might happen once all or most of the comforts are gone.

And not only that, there also has to be a famine.

Those two things are what's needed to make the normies wake up to reality. When things are so overwhelmingly horrible to the average person that they can't even think to ignore reality anymore is when revolution MIGHT happen.

I say might, because from what I can see, Venezuela never got it's revolution even though those two things actually happened. Globalization has kinda killed revolutions. Why try to fight the corrupt government when you can just waltz over to a country that's less corrupt? That's exactly what the Venezuelans did. They went to other latin american countries and shitted it up with their dreadful presence.

If America falls, expect Americans to move elsewhere. If Britain falls, the same thing will happen. So on and so forth. I imagine that the only countries where this might not happen is Japan and China and maybe a few others. It has to be countries that have a clear love for their nation and peoples. If you actually love your country, you will want to make it better and revolutionize it. If you hate it, you will likely just move out of it. Hell, look at California, great example of what I'm talking about. We all know about the great amount of Californians that have left the place because it became too shitty and expensive. They never loved the place enough to try to put in actual good changes, so they left.

>>508601764
most masculine canadian

>>508601027 (OP)
It is indeed extremely unlikely for there to be a legitimate grassroots movement for revolution in the west, primarily due to a stranglehold on organization and dissemination of information due to technology. That said, it is by no means impossible. With enough cultural and demographic destabilization, combined with natural and/or manmade disaster, the populace can be riled up to form into revolutionary splinters. It would simply require much, much more effort than in pre-modern eras.

That is all to say, revolution is inevitable. It will happen. It will simply take quite awhile, and will likely be a very long time coming when it does.

>>508601027 (OP)
yes but you need geographical political movements and IRL cohesion, and this country is specifically designed against that.
>>508602115
the kosher right uses you as a front to achieve their goals, this board spent the last 10 years promoting a literal chabad jew.
>>508604208
this is by design, keep them as incel cattle whining about bread and circuses and you've already won.
>>508604581
you need a critical mass and what >>508604700 said, there are little to no support networks (especally on the right).

>>508601027 (OP)
I think western governments were never at this state of weakness but there is just no one ready to revolt anymore. They might have technology and size but they would fold at soon as people actually march to get rid of them.
Micron fled when the yellow vests started to riot in Paris, if they marched on the parliement and the Elysee palace they could have taken them, they didn't partly because covert agents probably did their best to send them away and partly because they just did not want to.

>>508611226
i understand that to historically have been the case. but poor and working class have access to many of the same apparatuses that the wealthy do now. it may not be megaphoned with the same funding, and ofc there are algorithms that dictate what is acceptable to read/watch in the first place. so some of those hurdles still exist, but not in the same way

>>508612519
agreed. also there's still too many people enjoying the bread and circuses, but if gasoline prices here went to $10 per gallon, you'd see some serious shit imo.

>>508602726
Whats a pipedream about it? Majority of the western european population pyramide plus fertility of said muslim migrants suggests exactly that.

>>508601027 (OP)
there were 2 in the last decade alone in syria and libya, if some external actor start pushing for it it can easily happen.

Revolutions tend to need things like an aristocratic or oligarchic class to rally around
We don't really have those anymore, our alleged elites are rootless cosmopolitans with little stake in or loyalty to their own countries
The military used to provide an officer class of landed gentry types but it's heavily neutered now
What royals remain are circumcised and pathetic
So there needs to be a total vacuum for a new movement to arise, I picture total civil collapse
However even if that happened, in a way that completely killed the nation's government and uniformed forces (who would otherwise stabilise the monopoly of power) any developed state can fly in 10000 soldiers in an hour to establish a stronghold and begin taking the territory. This is beyond any grassroots movement's ability to stop. So the circumstances which might permit a total revolution really would just permit foreign occupation
Say Britain collapsed tomorrow, the royals fled to Canada and the government disintegrated, the police disbanded and the army, marines and rafreg went on holiday. Within a day you would have American, Canadian, French, UN? troops on the ground establishing order, policing and developing civil governance again. If not then then russian or whoever staking a claim.
Only global thermonuclear war reduces the power of states enough that they wouldn't be free to occupy territory of any one country in crisis

WHY THE FUCK ARE OUR GOVERNMENTS TRYING TO OFF US

WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THE 70S THE 80S

LIKE CMON.. WHATS THE PURPOSE???

>>508601764
Homosexual

>>508601027 (OP)
Think critically for a moment, why would they need that kind of surveillance and control if they weren't scared of that possibility?

>>508603399
>>508604320
>Then you starve.
unironically. zimbabwe needed white farmers, so does south africa, and most of africa imports food from europe, china from australia.

you cant even feed yourselves or farm lol

>>508601027 (OP)
Could be in Ukraine. Americans are rich as fuck and insulated, they have no issues to cause a revolution. Americans are bored in their nice life, they need entertainment, homosexuality, feminism, wokery, etc.

>>508603042
This.
>why are you thinking about this you must be insane or something
Because the writings are all over the wall, you have to be seriously retarded to believe things are not going down

>>508609789
what is it with the increase in name fags recently on pol?

>>508601027 (OP)
Revolution was always funded by bankers, and came from the top. The idea that it was ever some grassroots thing is a myth. Remember that the failed French counterrevolution was run by peasants

>>508614719
surveillance and control is always to the interest of the ruling class, who's goal it is, ostensibly to oppress and manipulate

>>508601027 (OP)
youre also missing that most revolutions start through college aged kids. and each younger cohort is smaller and smaller.

to small to revolt and are in essentially in indentured servitude to older generations like in south korea and japan and canada.

>>508603042
>class divide growing, racial divide deepening, and the sex divide becoming insurmountable
These things are immaterial as long as you have money and Americans have a lot of it. Revolution is possible in countries where people have no choice but revolt to survive.

>>508615220
You know nothing lol

>>508609789
Him and breakroom tranny are all part of a tranny discord. They spam any thread that gets too close to hurting jews

from my local experience with a coup generally soimething organic happens thats hijacked by some power group to impose their agenda.

like some crisis happens and protests organical;ly happens but then a power player use that oportunity to force the old leaders to go out

>>508601027 (OP)
Cut of the lemmings from the bread and circus and revolution will happen, Only takes like 100 men to do it.

>>508615220
>>508615301

idk.. i see what your saying.. but a sense of 'injustice' can often initiate pretty extreme behavior.
seems very core to our being. well it seems core to some of us at least.. other societies seem to have a serf mentality.

>>508601027 (OP)
>as long as people can distract themselves on their phone and sit in an air conditioned room and got some pizza pockets in the fridge. i think they will take just about anything quite frankly.

You are pretty close. What's it going to take? The inverse of what you've said. If the peasants cannot feed their children for 3 consecutive days, they will revolt.

>>508616473
Yeah but its not like revolutionarys have surplus food to hand out to gain the favour of the people

The one and only dividing line between revolution and slavery is propoganda. People believe the government propoganda and there is no counter prop.
Its why they seethe so much about free speech and "disinformation".

Same reason they got so mad about "its okay to be white" or about people not believing the holocaust.
So the solution is obvious; you have to remove government propoganda while producing your own.