Thread 508610381

What exactly is the faustian spirit? I only know of it from Spengler's concept of western society.

>>508610381 (OP)
HE JUST WANNA DAM

>>508610381 (OP)
kabuki evil

>>508610381 (OP)
Do you want to make a bargain to find out?

>>508610381 (OP)
Something along the lines of never being satisfied with what we have. A hunger for knowledge and stuff.

>>508610381 (OP)
LOOK AT HIM GO!

>>508611101
sure, whats the price?

>>508610381 (OP)
>Me when I see cunny

>>508611392
your eternal soul

>>508610381 (OP)
faust was a guy i forget what he did ect but it means to be like him

lol thats why i dont understand its a faustian pact not a faustian spirit lol a faustian spirit would be a demon

maybe im wron

>>508610381 (OP)
They're starting project bluebeam, whatever you do, do not board the ships, frens.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uY_xgaPRYxA

>>508610381 (OP)
It essentially means to have a sense of reckless adventure. Doing things which may or may not be wrong,

what an eager beaver

Bobrze ahahahaha :)

beaver cute kek

>>508610381 (OP)
It is the source of both our basic restlessness as a race and our basic inquisitiveness. It is what makes adventurers of us, drives us to risk our lives in ventures which can bring us no conceivable material benefit—something which is totally foreign to other races, accustomed to judging everything according to its utility only. It is the Faustian urge which has made our race the pre-eminent race of explorers, which has driven us to scale the highest mountains in lands inhabited by men of other races who have been content to remain always in the valleys. It is what, more than intellect alone, has made us likewise the pre-eminent race of scientists—especially in those days before the practice of science became a well-paid profession. It is what sent us to another world and has us now reaching for the stars.” William Luther pierce

>>508611565
I'm Dutch, i dont have a soul

What exactly comprises the mysterious wagey soul?
How do we quantify wageyness, aside from the vibrational frequency of their shelf stock dance routine?

>>508611737
think 'spirit' in terms of personality, drive and will.
the will to pursue knowledge and earthly pleasures with little regard to morality.

>>508611959
HE GAAAAN

>>508610381 (OP)
It's something you can only understand if you have if
And you either have it or don't. You cannot acquire or purchase

>>508611959
The faustian spirit is basically being pic related. Don't be that guy, grachtenshijter.

>>508610381 (OP)
made up buzzword

>>508610381 (OP)
bober kurwa

>>508612206
the will to live a life of undignified servitude with little reward, and to negate all your drives and passions in the service of their debts.

>>508610381 (OP)
Shut up college boy

WTF is Faust?

>>508612221
lol that sounds like a faustian pact to turn you into a demon

>>508610381 (OP)
>self destruct

Y A K U B
A
K
U
B

Is my copilot spirit animal...
YAKUB TAKE THE WHEEL
(You are now mentally visualizing an A.I. altered video of a giant YAKUB head spinning in a tornado throwing his head back and holding his hand up in the air)
We're all gonna yakub it bros

>>508613490
pretty much, Faust made the pact (in the book) the Faustian spirit is to go to extreme lengths for wisdom and pleasure with no regard for consequences or collateral damage.

>>508614075
these types of bitches used to be rare but now it's like half my swipe stack and I hate it.

>>508610381 (OP)
O KURWA BOBER ALE BYDLE!

>>508614075
i hate women

>>508610381 (OP)
The masculine urge to block things with sticks.

>>508610381 (OP)
cute dog

>>508614119
yea but isnt faust just an abstracted representation of the pact itself..

maybe not but i mean

if you take out the part where he makes the pact (to actually get what he wants) he ends up in the same place but he did not even want it

isnt a faustian pact also like a bad deal that looks good isnt that the point

>>508614238
>half my swipe stack
Yes, because online dating is the garbage can of human interaction.
Women don't even have to do the approachiung, can you imagine how utterly fucked a chick must be to rely on the internet to find men? Holy shit.

>>508610381 (OP)
Selling your soul to the devil for temporary intellectual and material gain. The devil comes to collect at the end. Retards on this site think Spengler meant it as a good thing

This thread made me realize there are, in fact, beavers in Europe.

>>508616311
The white beaver marches on

>>508610381 (OP)
The entire point of Faust is that he was a fucking dope. An idiot. A loser. A fool. An intellectual dumbass.

>>508610381 (OP)
He's just like me fr

>>508616038
lets say for example faust never makes the deal he wants all this shit

then the deal facilitates it

turns out this was not what he wanted at all

blames the deal

so a faustian spirit in this reguard would just be a retard

or for example not a thing what faustian spirit

if your useing it to describe reckless persuit unto something what is it in persuit of

faust is a tragic charicter

he wants power wealth and understanding

he makes a deal to get power wealth and understanding (pretend this isnt here because devil bad)

when he has power wealth and understanding it destroys him (pretend the deal didnt take his soul)

faust is a thought experiment culminating in the idea of a faustian pact a faustian spirit is not a thing

we could say our zeitghiest is a faustain pact for profit

it would be silly to say our faustian spirit demands profit

it sounds good though but its retarded

Yes, and…? That’s where it comes from. It’s a reference to the Faust of legend who makes a deal with the devil for earthly power to satiate his boredom and curiosity, largely by intellectual means. Spengler said that the West is Faustian in the same way that the Greco-Romans were Promethean.

>>508612221
Faust was an idiot. Even after making his pact he was quickly reduced to doing parlor tricks and dinner party magic. His "thirst for knowledge" was just trinkets and creature comforts and aplenty. He did nothing profound or of significance with his time.

>>508614238
Every bitch is a scene kid. They like the look of it but the lifestyle and ideology are vacant.

>>508616578
the faustian spirit would be the devil lol

>>508614075
Stupid bitch

>>508616733
No, it’s not synonymous with the devil. It’s innocently devilish. Faustian is ripping apart the natural world with science and technology to know and to dominate simply because you have an insatiable yearning for knowledge and power. You might know yearning for knowledge and power has terrible ends, is devilish, but the impulse goes almost unquestioned as such because it comes naturally. Science is literally an inversion of Christian theology, but Western man rarely considers it such a way. Western man considers it the perfectly natural and good pursuit of betterment. This is where the deal with the devil comes in.

>>508616632
There’s significance in that though. The point is that earthly power is ultimately illusory, meaningless, and destructive. Look at science and technology. Are we really any better off for it? Will we pay a price for using it?

>>508616614
faustian is fine but what is the promethian spirit is it the spirit of promethius or the spirit that defines people that act our his aspects


and again spngler is clearly a retard like how is that a discraptor

are you christian
maybe thats a bad example

are you Godian are your persuits godly therfore we describe you in such a way

its defonitinaly retarded it just sounds good

also spenglar said we are in essense makeing a faustian act but its not a faustian pact its a faustian spirit

ok

well is a promethian spirit also a promethian pact or is it another faustian pact

what the fuck did he mean by this

hes litterly just bunching up psudo atributes into psudo phrases than mean fuck all but sound nice


what is the difference between promethius and the devil

>>508611924
sad......................

>>508610381 (OP)
Why do beavers make dams? Because they're filled with the Faustian spirit. You answered your own question!

>>508616614
how does a promethian spirit act how does a faustian spirit act

his definition of the faustian spirit is the fucking faustian pact like what are we doing here

that being said its a nice use of words

i mean my electricion clearly has a teslerian spirit so its understandable

>>508611808
...it's a drone with cloth attachments and maybe a fan blowing upwards for comedic effect

>>508617158
Perhaps that is true- the ultimate shallowness of worldly endeavors is a point being made.. but If we are referring to Marlowe's version of Faust, it is generally in the form of English Renaissance drama in that it is sort of a drama of the humors and as such it is mostly about people's shortcomings leading to some comeuppance.

I mean it is not a humors play per se but most Renaissance drama has that angle. You generally see people who have some particular imbalance of the humors that results in a negative trait which they get some justice for in one way or another at the conclusion of the play.

They are moralizing stories generally. Faust is a fool and his worldly excesses greed, hubris, and laziness get the better of him and he makes a deal with the devil and pays for it and gets dragged to hell for eternity. The point of the play is don't be like Faust. I think the target audience for this lesson would have been to urban nobility and men about town indulging excessively in all sorts of burgeoning intellectual academic pursuits and occult studies. It is reminiscent of the old classic horror movies
>rich guy in castle is obsessed with science and experiments- does something unnatural and pays a price.

>>508617566
looks more like a kite

>>508617040
so your a luddite? and think this is a tale for luddites

its litterlyt be careful what you wish for in long form and reparableised

faust wanted power so badly he made a litteral deal with a litteral devil and it litterly ended badly

it says nothing of the inherant badness of anything (potentially the devil because devil)

>>508610381 (OP)
They're starting project bluebeam, whatever you do, do not board the ships, frens.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uY_xgaPRYxA

>>508617719
Right. It is basically a tragedy of the humors. Which is to say that the gist of the story is- don't sell your soul for worldly pleasures. Faust is a fool whose obsessions and worldly endeavors lead him to sell his soul like an idiot.

He could have just as well sold his soul to have the live of some woman etc. Anyways you could make the argument though that it is also making the point not to fuck around with the occult which I'm sure would have been in vogue for uppercrust and nobility of Marlowe's time.

>>508617719
therefore a faustian spirit defonitionally would be not reckless

because he had no idea it was a faustian pact and no idea the outcome may or may not have been

he wanted power and got power and then really really didnt want power

whats is the ethos of such a spirit

indeciciveness i dont think so
stupidity?? i cant think of a better word but i should
a lack of contenance or wisdom a lack of deliberation i dont know

invariably i would have to read what the dude actually said spengler or whatever because people always butcher them and make them look like fools and they rarely are

>>508610381 (OP)
it's like what was inside the White man who climbed to the roofings in the south korea crushing event where nobody else dared to think doing anything that would get you labeled weird.

>>508618021
yea but he was no fool he made a deal with the devil for earthly power

its foolish to deal with devils is a meta analysis that faust reveals to use this is also a wild and wide swing if the devil is not litteral thus cementing the necesity for a focal point of a litteral devil undermineing his life litterly

but if we imagine him to be figureative then he is not faust and if we asign fausts failing to himself and not the devil we dont need the litteral devil in the story at all

a faustian spirit would be a demon

look at it however you like beit a litteral demon
or the spirit that would figuratively represent a demon willing to hurt others for selfish pleasure and ultimately resign themselfs to selfish destruction

>>508618060
In Marlowe's Faust- he was an idiot who (against available wisdom) sold his soul for worldly pleasures after meddling with the occult and got punished for it.

It is mostly just a moralizing story about dont be an idiot like Faust. BUT I think there is an element of adjusting this old story to speak to the changing mindset of the Renaissance vs the wisdom of the old world.

>>508617719
Are you illiterate? Where did I endorse Luddism?

You morons should really just shut the fuck up and read more if you’re this clueless.

>>508618320
Youre completely analyzing it wrong like some kind of dorm room 1101 circumlocution world salad.

It is a Renaissance drama. We should analyze it as a Renaissance drama. Period. These dramas of this time are defined by being tragedies or comedies of the humors. AKA "every character has some excesses and they get their just desserts accordingly". While Faust is not like a Ben Jonson tier humors play it has the same fundamental angle. There isnt some meta analysis of the debil or any of that nonsense.

Faust is a dope who thinks he is hot shit and desires world things and gets dragged to hell for it. It sounds simple and it is but it is very artfullt written. End of story.

>>508618320
>>508618379
again but he searches for power and finds it
its not like he does not gain power

i think the reason we have a litteral demon is not because of the meta level anaylsis of a fake demon in faust himself read line 2 of not a littteral demon in above post

but because of universal forces and laws at play such as karma ect (potentially) aswell as godly things and persuit of other or non earthly pleasures

the litteral demon is a litteral metaphor for litteral forces of nature that will reward such behaviour

but again it all comes down to a faustian pact not a faustian spirit his undoing is not his tertiary mysandry and poor charicter it is the deal itself

it is giving in to the forces that will help you but take your everything EVEN YOUR VERY SOUL

>>508618708
your the guy reduceing a masterpeice down to antrapmorphic ideas of a simpler people in a simpler time anon

lmao

>its just a goofy guy that did goofy stuff dont worry about it

"but wasnt every body very religio

>ITS NOT ABOUT RELIGION HES DUMB

>ok but if hes dumb why did he re

>HE REGRET HIS DECISION BECAUSE DUMB STOP THINKING HES DUMB AND ITS FUNNY AND SPENGLR SAID PROMETHIUS NOW CLAP!!

kek

>>508613336
China conscript in Ukraine?

>>508618708
peopel belived in god anon and the devil tricked him out of his soul for not being mindful of protecting it

how is that not perfectly congruent with the ideas of the time

thats not what i thinkits about well it kind of is but lol faustian spirit p-leasse

>>508619129
The art of Renaissance drama is in word smithing. Beautiful use of language, clever turn of phrase, good dialogue, but generally they have a very simple but clever entertaining moralizing story.

This isnt some meta philosophical piece of literature. It is a drama meant to be performed and any higher level implications behind it were usually topical or political for the time. People like to infuse their modern literature with all sorts of pie sky philosophical nonsense. They didn't really do that back then.
>clever artful use of language and dialogs
>simple but clever moralizing story
>entertaining and memorable.
>maybe some background message addressing topical events/issues in an indirect way.
Thats Renaissance drama in a dialogs,

It's some of the best writing ever made because of this simple formula. Stop trying to imbued these masterwork with your indulgent pseudo philosophical modernist James Joyce tier meta literary bullshit.

Its like Baroque music in fugue. It is formulaic and simple at face value. But it is very artfully and beautifully made. Don't try to analyze it like some kind of goddam post modernist jazz nonsense.

>>508617616
Well first of all, Faustian refers to Spengler who referred to Goethe’s Faustian and not Marlowe’s Faust. Goethe’s Faust is redeemed in his striving unlike the others. But in all Faustian tales the essential thing is not shortcomings. Faust makes the bargain because he’s exhausted his learning in theology, law, and medicine, the sort of “noble” medieval intellectual arts. He makes the deal with the devil in part because of erotic desire over Gretchen and in part because of he wants to address his intellectual restlessness and instinctual hunger for power. It’s only a shortcoming in so far as it’s a natural proclivity. The tale is a cautionary one about indulging in one’s impulses, not just bodily but intellectually. Mephistopheles explains all of this at the opening of the play. But the devil’s power is always a monkey’s paw sort of deal. Everything he does backfires in the material world. The lesson is that power can have evil origins and as such yield terrible fruits. The main difference between Marlowe and Goethe is not so much the matter of shortcoming or ignorance but the result of your willing. For Marlowe, Faust wills what he knows he should not and pays the ultimate price for it with his immortal soul. For Goethe, it’s through the yearning and striving that Faust comes back to the divine mother and is ultimately saved. Goethe literally thinks that even those who do terrible things with noble ambitious can be redeemed and saved. Marlowe doesn’t. He thinks the commandments are clear and violating them means paying the price. Tragic either way, but for different reasons. Marlowe’s tragedy is fundamentally spiritual, while Goethe’s is more material and perhaps psychological.

>>508619316
also im g start calling people faustian spirits so here goes >>508618708
Your a Faustian spirit.

>>508619435
the other day anon i sat under a tree an apple fell on my head
nevermind i was in a bath as the water overflowed

newton didnt redefine the world by sitting under a tree but sitting under a tree redefined the world

the same with archemedes he did not redefine the world by takeing a bath but takeing a bath redefined the world

the fact that the term faustian pact is still used widely today is clear evidence of the non-normality of this specific play

even if it was not intended as transdental philisophucal litriture it can easily be analiysed as such

As an example of your folly

Tell me one line from the play .

ill tell you one enduring philisophical idea

A faustian pact.

>>508619461
I am totally open to the idea that Goethe Faust is trying to indulge in some kind of pedantic masturbatory philosophical nonsense like this.

But the Marlowe version is not. The Marlowe version is just damned good artful wordsmithing with a basic moralizing story set to a memorable and known classic story. That's all it is and it is far more valuable.

>>508610381 (OP)
Do beavers have autism?

>>508610381 (OP)
Knowledge is for free. Faustian spirit is like AI stealing artists work and sell it back to humanity. All those terrible secrets are nothing but scams. That’s why mystery is bait for bad stuff.
Take some free knowledge fren
> moon landing was faked
> nukes are fake

>>508619948
The story of Faust has been around for a long time and there are multiple versions of course but the Marlowe version is mostly valuable because it is just goddam good word smithing. Thats all. And I am more of. Ben Jonson fan (who I consider the superior wordsmith) and could recite you lines of that but none of Faust come to kind. I dont consider them philosophical lol just artful clever use of the English language.

It's sort of like modern art vs Renaissance art.
>Renaissance art- finely wrought masterwork of skill and taste on classic subject matter. There may be some other layers but they are mostly topical or clever- not deep or philosophical.
>modern art- hamfisted and generally of poor skill and taste... but supposedly imbued with indukgent philosophical notions that bozos like to sit around and have coffee table conversation over.

>>508620124
autism litterly isnt real anon they redefined the terms to include aspergers and the old non pc retardation

so that prescription drugs can be more broadly apllied then pschologists with a new box to put people in that ran the range from serverly handicapped to savant all fell under the same label and thus the same medication

>>508620469
what do you think philosophy is lol

philosophy is a conversation with life about life

now put me in your faveroutes tab

thats a quote from me i guess we could interchange the word reality somewhere lol

with life about reality or with reality about reality
ok unfaveroute me

>>508614075
I don’t think terrence McKenna wanted this

>>508617275
How can you call Spengler retarded while spelling his name wrong multiple times in multiple different ways? lol

>>508610381 (OP)
Wtf are their problem?

>>508620519
Ok, didn't ask

>>508610381 (OP)
That beaver will be a good source of fat when SHTF

>>508620930
im just that based.

But also im probably miss understanding a miss-representation of his ideas

and I just don't like the idea of a Faustian spirit not being a devil in any interpretation be it devil or demonic i think i dilutes it beyond recognition

>>508614856
Nice doggo

>>508620719
I am generally not a fan of philosophy. I think it is mostly indulgent coffee table games. I like Renaissance drama precisely because it is beautiful without the indulgent philosophical baggage (for the most part). Philosophy is to religion as masturbation is to coitus. I of course went down the philosophy rabit holes as a younger man mostly just to come full circle and realize what a pointless mess it is.

No, there is more wisdom in a walk in the woods than any philosophy book. Generally your higher instincts and intuitions are what define man. Low brow intuition informed by experience and a judicious use of intellect. Not wallowing around like a fish on a bank in a bunch of metaphysical questions and musings which we will never have answers for and we're not meant to have answers for.

>>508621146
"Faustian spirit" doesn't refer to the character in the story, the character in the story is the devil.

>>508619957
I absolutely disagree. You can call it masturbatory philosophy but the fact is both authors have their own worldviews which imply certain ethics and certain ends. In neither case does it necessarily have to be rationalized. The story proceeds from their understanding either way. Goethe was basically a liberal in a rapidly modernizing world. Marlowe inhabited an essentially religious world. The latter was more open to a muse that communicated salvation for the bargainer than the former. That’s all. My point though is rather about the essential thing, the tendency. Both Fausts know they shouldn’t strike a bargain. They do it anyway. This is less a shortcoming and more a willful action. The story in either case is about the consequences of willing this or willing that, not shortcomings. What makes Marlowe’s Faust stand out so much is that unlike the other characters of his era but very much like Shakespeare’s Macbeth or Hamlet, the tragedy is a tragedy not of the persona but of the will. It’s about destinies and choices, not shortcomings. That’s kinda like saying Marvell’s poems are about the frustrations and fruits of gardening.

>>508621375
The main character’s name is literally Dr. Faust, dumbass.

>>508621375
the devil is a spirit that is the downfall of faust or faust was the devil all along

its a faustian pact anyway thats the crux of me not likeing spandexe's (that ones for you anon's) churlish charicterisation of the west

>>508621282
hah when will you learn that your walk in the woods was philosophy and your plays are simpily digestable charicterisations of your walk in the woods

im jokeing yea i dont really read much philosophy but i argue about it actively witch is paradoxicaly the classical example of philosophy

>>508619284
He is kazakh or buryat, they look like this. Russia has many folks.

>>508621517
Yes the name refers to Faust but what I mean is that Spengler's conception of a "Faustian spirit" does not refer to the devil from the story of Faust.

>>508621565
Spengler wrote the Decline of Western Civilization, I'm sure that it was inherent in his worldview that it's downfall was a forgone conclusion. If you disagree you can come up with a new name for the animating spirit of Europeans.

>>508622201
i would call it the paraboliclense kek

>>508622318
fuck names taken by actuall parabolic lenses so i guess we keep zeitgheist for now. ohh the burden of unoriginality lol

>>508622471
But the Zeitgeist is the spirit of the age, it's meant to describe the animating spirit of a period of time, shouldn't Europeans have a name for the spirit which animates them throughout all time?

>>508622767
Majestic creatures

>>508622674
i think its abit myopic i prefer the spirit of the age in all honesty its a great descriptor its like a commonality in thought and feeling that permiates a socioecenomic and socieatal at large emotive force toward action

he did really good on that one

>>508622767
>tfw you're an elephant who has been in india for too long and have now started to emulate the local human's customs

>>508621758
I believe the work of the creator (the natural world) is far beyond what we can even comprehend. Within it there is perfect beauty and incomprehnsible harmony and we were (ourselves an creation) put in it as an ultimate mercy on us in this realm. We would do good to learn from it and not niss it because we are hanging our heads over the musings and indulgent chicken scratch of some fellow human.

>>508622818
Truly majestic.

>>508623026
In some way, I feel like they know more than us.

>>508622857
Alright, so now we have the spirit of the age, the Zeitgeist, and the animating spirit of Europeans, the Zeitgheist.

>>508622987
if the earth is divine so are the humans and the chicken scratch we cant arbitrarily draw lines on gods face and call it logic

that being said im super poor and have stared at a screen for like 9 hours my and logic are not close friends

>>508610483
>Little brown rodent just wants to dam
>White boomer just wants to grill
>Hindii rats just wanna rape

Summon up all your strength, and fight!

>>508610381 (OP)
to search for the truth of the world, to transcend the boundaries of the animal and become distinct, to become what everybody before merely thought they reached, to be human
it is prometheus fire, it is odins mead, it is the forbidden fruit and yes it is lucifer the morningstar

you can take a fella out of his dam but you can't take the dam out of him.

>>508610381 (OP)
its a hunger for excellence and never being satisfied no matter how much you have achieved

>>508623190
maybe the animus of the European would be the Evropa the mystical europe we aspire towards the same one that sits beneath our feet

kek

>>508610381 (OP)
Risking your life in some type of adventure that no one will remember or a jew will take the credit for.

Like the Putty Cave dude.

>>508622201
You gotta read Spengler bro. He never said the West’s downfall was inevitable. He thought civilizations go through life cycles and the West’s life cycle is nearing its terminal phase, but it need not die or be killed. It can live on in a culturally dead, spiritually fake, civilizationally unimpressive ossified state, like a tree that turns hard and doesn’t die but no longer grows.

Faustian spirit just refers to what he saw as the essential character of Western civilization: a will to a relentless pursuit of knowledge and power, even at the expense of traditions, morals, and safety. The world tries to send rockets into space because they want to compete with the Faustian, but the Faustian sends rockets into space because he just needs to know what it’s like and feel the power rush of doing it.

>>508610381 (OP)
Are you trying to fucking lead a hate raid against me you fucking faggot???

>>508611924
haha stupid animals we got way better things then stupid walls and paintings

>>508616311
Thanks fren. Goodnight pol

>>508623371
based bird

>>508623234
What you have going on here is a creator of incomprehensible power and understanding, that has, for some reason unknown to us decided to creat some tiny ant-like creature and graced it with a single drop of godliness (which is true being/identity). This little ant like creation exists in this incomprehensibly perfect natural creation where we do all sorts of foolish and ugly things (but also beautiful things). We are basically stupid, and we obsess over things, we never learn our lessons, we are slaves to all sorts of urges that we try to overcome and we fancy ourselves little gods and creators only to be humbled by our creator as we thoughtlessly blunder about despite a few shining moments of wisdom and beauty and understanding.

>>508623779
orcas>australian professional animal harassers

>>508623479
Sodden Star?

>>508623639
>Grizzly 6%
>Elephant 8%
So 2% of people dont think they could beat a grizzly, but do think they could beat an elephant?

>>508610381 (OP)
That happy jumping at the end

>>508610381 (OP)
The same as white men's burden i assume.

>>508610381 (OP)
in all reality im the kind guy that would unironically just start damming up the dorrway with the beaver

im weak like that kek

>wife gets hame hey hunn hunn theres a 40 foot wall of sticks and leaves infront of the house
> WE USE THE BACK NOW GO AROUND GO AROUND IS THE WATER TAKNER HERE YET???

>>508624056
what I find interesting in this is that beaver accepted the human dwelling as his home and wants to instinctively block it with rising water

>>508623851
pretty wild right. that shit gets me fired up LOL

man i hope we can fix our planet and people (asif they are broke i hear from the back well i dont have any fucking money i reply)

>>508624056
yeah id just give him more wood and logs just to see what he'll end up doing with the doorway kek

>>508611924
whats the person scrolling at

>>508624258
lets pretend its not a dumb animal imagine its on a flood plane kek and hes trying to save the home

you are correct about that instinct though that is super strange but it could just be a damaged beaver T.T

>>508624404
The second guy played that well

>>508610381 (OP)
How is that not clear from its definition?
>ends justify the means

>>508619957
the entirety of Goethes Faust is legendary word smithing, you stupid fuck
the whole book is full of word plays that every german knows
and that is the version Spengler was referring to,
not fucking Marlowe

>>508624603
the boner means the roo wanted to rape

>>508625163
Sometime, for science, you gotta let the animals do it.

>>508610381 (OP)
>What exactly is the faustian spirit? I only know of it from Spengler's concept of western society.
pic related

>>508624925
Goethe is "What Ho Heironymo" Tier.

"Indeed, here are a number of fine speeches in this book:
“O eyes, no eyes, but fountains fraught with tears!” There’s a conceit! “Fountains fraught with tears!” “O life, no life, but lively form of death!” Is’t not excellent? “O world, no world, but mass of public wrongs!” Oh, God’s me! “Confused and filled with murder and misdeeds.” Is’t not simply the best that ever you heard? Ha?"

>>508610381 (OP)
He even gets excited towards the end and starts hopping. Op thank you for putting a smile on my face today. This little guy is awesome. He's just got a block that doorway cuz he thinks water is coming through. Instantly starts building a home for himself.

>>508625967
no problem dude

>>508625502
Moroccans.

>>508626185
Bears.

>>508616311
such magnificent creatures.

>>508613979
holy kino. i've always felt something like this was the case. i've read spengler but i've never come across something that gives this specific reason; the proliferation of inferiors. very concise aswell.

>>508610381 (OP)
>I only know of it from Spengler's concept of western society.
he thought there was a central worldview concept or feeling from which other types of thought develop, like a flowering plants parts developing from leaves, the world feeling comes from poor communities fear of death- its collective and subconscious, it turns into art forms, government religion etc

>>508630388
>>508610381 (OP)
he thought other ancient people had their own- picture related
faustian seems to be really individualistic, based on the ego rather than physical body, sees space and nature as an infinite thing to be explored

>>508630388
its about mans dominion over nature and his hubris
in a sense western man has achieved something nobody before had which is to become truly apart from nature, not an animal
revealed the world to itself

if you see anything by wyatt stagg he analyses every story about man versus nature as a critique of white europeans, true but not holistic so
the story makes no sense if you put a bushman or an arab into it, too close to an animal to be polemic or more neutral to close to nature

have you seen the painting "wanderer im nebel" the man overseeing the fog from the mountain top? if you put a non white man into it then the entire painting makes no sense

my father hated the avatar movies for that he saw them as a vicious unfair takedown of western civilization with the blue catpeople being an unfair or unrealistic standard

>>508613253
>she said IIIII am the one

>>508624558
it's a white incel looking at porn

>>508625788
what retarded horseshit, none of that has anything to with Goethes Faust
you dont even speak german obviously
noone gives a fuck about Marlow, certainyl not Spengler

i want to squeeze him so much but he would probably have a better life in his rivers :(

>>508632407
there's a beaver family in a lake near my house, you can practically pet them with how accustomed they are to people

>>508617566
TOXOTRANNY