Thread 508630166

on American farmers

>>508630166 (OP)
What's slew

>>508630166 (OP)
So, all this food Americans "wouldn't pick" was for China?

>>508630166 (OP)
Means cheaper food for US.

>>508630367
A whole bunch of different products.

Oh nooooooo I guess they'll have to sell the food cheaper now to Americans

(Assuming supply/demand still works, it still works right?)

How awful!

>>508630517
K ty

>>508630367
Poor grammar

>>508630166 (OP)
Didn't China just try to destroy its own food supply by sabotaging US exports with a slanty-eyed fungus?

>>508630479
>Implying supply and demand is still a thing

In fact, when demand drops, they increase prices to make up for the lost profit to shareholders, hoping the smaller number of people willing to pay more will counteract it.

>>508630479
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One moment they are complaining about not enough underpaid illegals to pick things then they are complaining no one to sell too, msm needs to pick its narratives better.
Bottom line of what they are saying is domestic goods will be handled by citizens and cheaper.

>>508630166 (OP)

So, which is it? We don't have enough workers to meet demand or demand is plummeting? Lol.

>>508630479
You don't understand the system. It's like when Europe banned Russian oil import. Third countries like India just "buy" from Russia and "resell them to Europe. This is ok, because it's not directly from Russia.

But unfortunately no illegal immigrants to pick up and be sold to Chinese, not even to local Americans. They just rot in the field. What are you gonna do?

>>508630550
Why would you lower your prices when the market has already shown they're willing to pay the current price?

>>508631186

Because there isn't a single company that has market share control? "Oh fuck, I can undercut my competition and increase total profits, even though my profit margins are decreasing, through more sales?"

WELCOME TO CAPITALISM.

>>508630705
When republicans said Trump would the country like a business, what they meant was "we're gonna implement tariffs so the government can price gouge you too."

>>508630166 (OP)
Don't start a trade war that will destroy your farmers.
And continue to subsidize the farmers and don't kill the farmers.
Otherwise, you end up like South Africa and Turkey

>>508630166 (OP)
They can always send their food to Africa. For free.

>>508630166 (OP)
I live in a rural state in a rural town. I've never met a poor farmer.

>>508631373
>Because there isn't a single company that has market share control?

There's like 1-5 companies that run the vast majority of certain sectors and they all collude with each other to keep prices high.

>>508630479
it means nothing because food is subsidized. if anything it just means most the food will go to the landfill now

>>508631373
You don't cut off your own nose just to spite your fellow farmers.

Woe to whatever traitor tries to drag down the rest of the team. Accidental fires in food plants are common, and we're over due for one.

>>508631735
Someone should tell the government those subsidies are being stolen by shareholders and other capitalists, because food is still incredibly fucking expensive and Americans can't afford groceries, while North Korea gives free food to everyone

>>508631790
This is true.
Something I've wondered about, do you Canucks have farmers markets up there? Honest question.

>>508631607

Various niche sectors? Don't doubt it. On a whole, no, there aren't 1-5 companies colluding to keep up corn, wheat, tomatoes, etc. Chicken, for example, the top suppliers only account for something like 60% of the total market share. Our agriculture system is so fucking nuanced it ain't funny.

>>508631925
Where i live, Ohio, produce is actually cheap. At least where I live. By farmers. The meat seems to be rising a lot though.

>>508631790

>Woe to whatever traitor tries to drag down the rest of the team. Accidental fires in food plants are common, and we're over due for one.

Oh fuck off. You're acting like this is some sort of mob movie. The issue isn't even the farmers or suppliers, it is the distributors.

>>508631970
Maybe in the trendy neighborhoods with lots of hipsters. I've never been to one, or even seen one though.

Sometimes my locally owned grocer has local produce, but I'm not paying extra for potatoes or onions that have clumps of soil still stuck to them.

>>508631186
>>508631373
Why not just subsidize and then raise the price after you own the market that is communism with chinese characteristics the ccp way.

>>508632441
Are you allowed to have a garden? These are honest questions. I know in some areas here you can't have a private garden.

>>508630166 (OP)
Oh no! Prices are only a little bit higher than before Biden made everything unaffordable!

>>508632702
All pocketed by shareholders and other capitalists

Prices did NOT come down for consumers and only get more expensive,

It's a one way street

ONLY up, NEVER down

>>508630166 (OP)
"American" "farmers" hire illegal spics so they can all go bankrupt, fuck them. Seize their land and give it to Patriots

>>508632702
And yet in store prices just keep going up. Isnt that kooky?

>>508632618
Yeah, but no one has time or energy to garden.

An old lady on my block grows some tomatoes, and there's a barely maintained community garden I pick some fresh herbs at occasionally, but other than that I haven't seen any gardens in my neighborhood.

>>508632589

Yeah they've tried this before, covertly. Three things happened, and still continue to happen:

1) Big time customers (think McDonalds) sue the fuck out of them and win.
2) Their competition (think Sysco) sue the fuck out of them and win.
3) Ranches and feedlots are swayed into new, more lucrative contracts by competitors willing to forgot unit margins via more sales.

This shit autocorrects so fast in the United States market. It's actually impressive. There is also a 4th thing that does occur from time to time and that is when the FTC gets involved. That happened during COVID.

>>508632269
I'm sure the free market will bring food prices down, just like what happened with fast food post-covid.

>>508633105
It’ll take a while, beef numbers are the lowest they have been for 70 years. We have atleast 2ish years before things start to settle back to normal.

>>508632965
When I was a kid everyone had a garden. People grew sugar cane, tomatoes a lot, grape vines,and everyone had some kind of food producing trees. As kids we'd just go grab whatever when we were hungry and noone cared. I don't see that much anymore and I live in a flyover state. This one lady had the best plums.

>>508633337
Beef numbers are low? It really isn't showing and I live in an area where you can take a 10 minute ride to see as many cows as you want.

>>508630166 (OP)
What a neat piece of equipment (pic rel)

It's almost like we don't need brown immigrants working our fields.

>>508633565
We haven't needed shitskins since Eli Whitney.

>>508633565
AI generated image. They couldn't find any stock photos of American farming that didn't have mexicans in it.

>>508633105

>I'm sure the free market will bring food prices down, just like what happened with fast food post-covid.

Quit being obtuse, leaf. Food prices have gone up through a multitude of reasons beyond the market's control:

1) Avian influenza which fucked up the egg/poultry market.
2) Inflation.
3) Russia-Ukraine fucking up fertilizer costs.
4) Recouped costs after COVID labor shortages.
5) A bad string of floods and droughts, specifically the floods in the upper Midwest last year.

>>508633564
As the farmers and they tell you. I’ve seen thousand dollar day old calves and pound cows going for close to two dollars a pound. Everybody is selling cause the market is hot.

>>508631925
Someone explain how he landed a cute Pajeeta gf while looking like that.

>>508633665
I was going to say John Froelich, but you're not wrong.

>>508633745
I usually buy a half cow (halfsies with my friend) it's generally around 400-450 for a half. Around 750-800 for a whole. Butchering included. But the store meat is crazy priced.

>>508634044
Kek
That reminds me of a joke. *ahem*
What do you call a barn filled with old niggers?
>antique farm equipment

>>508632147
The goal is to find the point where people can't afford food and hover there for a while, instilling hope that prices will go down and then increase prices after allowing a small price drop. Then repeat that until everyone keeps getting more and more poor as their living expenses increase by small percentages every year.

>>508631069
both, apparently.

>>508630367
ESL NIGGERS ARE MEMEFLAGS

>>508634333
Until White people can't afford food you mean. Printing money is the problem.

>>508634089
That must haven’t been a while since absolute dogshit that goes through the market is bringing 1200 dollars at min for 12 year old no teeth no ears cattle.

>>508634662
I can get it now for that price.

>>508631096
Big Agriculture will just buy their own food to artificially keep demand high, like how the government buys its own treasury bonds when it can't find enough bag holders.

>>508630166 (OP)
Didn’t China do this a decade ago?

>>508634662
>>508634735
If i do go to Sam's Club, it's around $45 for 10 lbs of 80/20

>>508634735
That’s crazy, tell those farmers to send that shit to a different market. Pic related was 3 old cows for me last month.

>>508630166 (OP)
Well sure, the US has proven repeatedly that it is not good for it's word. What else did you expect? Dumbasses.

>>508634571
jews are jelous of white people leading to certain destructive actions devoid of logic with the sole goal of destroying those that have nice things like intelligence, looks, creativity, compassion. Printing money is not a problem. It is a mechanism that can both cause and fix problems.

>>508630166 (OP)
Kek, looks like wheat is back on the menu's leaf boys!

>>508635015
That's fucking insane. Maybe it's because I live in a rural area where I see cows on a daily basis? Is that butchered as well? I can buy a lot of heifers for that price.

>>508635155
jews are afraid of Whites because they know that we are their biggest threat. They want us dead.

>>508635426
No that’s just market sale

>>508630166 (OP)
oh no the farmers are going to have to sell to their own country again? anything but that!

>>508630479
they will dump it in a field and let it rot in the sun before lowering their prices

>>508630479
dump the food in the ocean

>>508635540
No anon, they are their only threat. They see the other races as tamable animals that are easy to control.

>>508630166 (OP)
OK? And?? I already buy just about all of my food from the local farmers market.
If this is true, they could just as easily just sell stateside. In fact, it would be insanely easier to just sell it all CONUS.

>>508635918
>FOR SALE:
>1 million bushels of Made in America basedbeans
>no lowball offers, I know what I got.

>>508630166 (OP)
China releasing a blight on our crops in 3...2...

This entire board should just be labeled /cope/, it is literally all thirdies flooding the board to try and manifest the collapse of the west lol

>>508635540
You're being very, very silly.

For centuries the Jew had to scheme, lie, and cheat to get what he wanted. Now, under the Anglo-American liberal world order, he can simply murder to obtain what he wants. He can kill tens of thousands of children in broad daylight in front of billions of witnesses and you will shield him from all harm and consequences. The Jew has never, at any point in time, been more powerful than you've made him.

The Jew adores you.

>>508631735
wait. so the US government subsidizes american farmers using taxpayer dollars so the farmers can grow cheap food for china?

>>508630166 (OP)
how are they going to feed their bug farm

>>508636296
>to try and manifest the collapse of the west lol
I think it's working.

>>508636341
not just for China, for the entire world

>>508636341
yeah but it more about making our food more competitive with other countries. The other countries complain that US food is too cheap and unfair.

>>508630367
>What's slew


a "slew" is a "lot"

>>508630367
A bit more than a bunch.

>>508630166 (OP)
I guess Amerimutts will have to eat the difference, imagine the fatness

>>508630166 (OP)
oh no! all those rich race traitor faggots hiring 300 mexicans to ignore tapeworms in pigs and slime your chicken up with salmonella will be slightly less rich!! oh right, i dont give a FUCK. you can sell me your disgusting slop for the price of a 1995 grand slam or kys farmers

well I guess it's time to grow something other than government subsided onions beans and corn

>>508630166 (OP)
>American (((farmers)))
almond and basedbean growers can suck it
california will suddenly not have a water problem when those farmer kikes eat it

>>508639125
It's hilarious that Californians have to ration water and pay high costs, just so Big Agra can get copious amounts of subsidized water to grow cash crops that would otherwise be unsuitable for the environment.

american farmers are subsidized 4 different ways to prevent failure in situations like this. they'll have run off room to sell non-chan onions next year

>>508630166 (OP)
lul even chinks don't want to eat amerislop

>>508635724
NOOO that will dilute the plastics!

>>508630403
It's not food ita agricultural equipment like tractors. China is sourcing them from other countries rather than America because china now has large tariffs on American goods

>>508630166 (OP)
War? I didn’t know that market capitalism was all about being forced to buy things you don’t want?

>>508630166 (OP)
oh no, the heckin basedbeanarinos

>>508642328
Economic war, yes. Market capitalism is supposed to be a two way street.

First they made it illegal for American tech companies to sell them high end goods, like GPUs.
Then they make it impossible for American automakers to sell in China by using over capacity to flood the market with obscenely inexpensive cars.
Now they're refusing to buy American basedbeans.

They're weaponizing the trade deficit.

>>508630367
It's what Jesus did to any meme flaggot he caught

>>508630166 (OP)
China doesn't declare shit. This is an indicator China economy is crashing.

>>508630479
>American education

>>508630166 (OP)
the china man and his ways, wants to take away the grain; he wants to destroy culture.

>>508630550
the french also sell drugs to Americans

>>508630367
A bit less than a bushel

>>508639125
What are based beans?

>>508632618
Did you know that in America if a Monsanto seed flies off to your field and grows and they find it (and they do look for it) you are in breach of copyright and criminally liable and you're getting fucked

>>508630367
Lazy writing.

>>508630479
All according to keikaku

>>508630479
>Means cheaper food for US.
First time?

>>508645618
Those plants are Monsanto's intellectual property. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

They probably have affordable limited licenses to cover that, if you aren't growing any crops but want to reduce your liability in those situations.

>>508630367
Like a shredded cabbage salad with a mayo base, it's usually prefaced with "cold" though and I don't get the reference in this context.

>>508630166 (OP)
So where is China getting their soi from instead of the US? What other countries have industrialized farming to the point they can feed their own population plus export enough for a billion chinksects?

If you cant find a buyer the crops get dumped and written off, then since you lost all your dollarydoos you are forced to lease out the land to some shitty megafarm corp. This happened to my family's apple farm which was then sold after the lease was up. Now go buy some grapes from Oregon that was once miles of apple orchards.

>>508630479
American farmers would rather burn food than have it drop to loss prices.
That's what they do if its not worth selling by the way.

Food prices have largely remained stable within the USA regardless of import and exports except during famines and tariffs where they jump.

>>508636341
It's called a trade surplus. It allows you to actually buy more things from other nations.
Learn about it.

>>508636341
I'm kinda hoping those Chinks trying to sabotage crops with weird microbes succeed now. Ironically those CCP chink saboteurs are freedom fighters:
>chinkland dependent on USA crops
>chinks sabotage USA farms
>ag output collapses
>chinkland starves
>???

>>508636683
Yes mutts subsidize global shitskin breeding

>>508645982
Dude, "if their seed flies off and lands in your field you're liable".
Like if I make and play it on the radio and accuse of piracy anybody who hears it . It's fucking nuts.

>>508630166 (OP)
Cool. We've already been losing massive amounts of money with every harvest. Bring it on China, what are you going to do? Put us out of business? That just stops the losses lol

>>508646611
Read OP retard

>>508646888
>Like if I make a record and

>>508646888
You're liable for what grows on your property and subject to legal consequences.
This applies to letting grass get too long or noxious weeds take over your yard in the city.
Or if you have illegal marijuana plants "accidently" growing on your land.
Or if you have stolen Monsanto plants.

As for your piracy analogy, it'd be like hosting a content aggregator and letting it accumulate copywritten material and child porn and stuff. It's your responsibility to take that content off your site.

>America finally does not have to deal with chinese trade
this is a good thing

>>508630367
Zesty, Mein nigga

>>508647230
>Or if you have stolen Monsanto plants.
They aren't stolen, moron. You didn't know they existed. They failed to prevent their seed from polluting other farmers' crops you fucking imbecile.
It's like slipping drugs in somebody's drink and accusing them of doing drugs you fucking cretin

>>508647766
Tell it to the judge.
It's like having a yard full of stolen bicycles and being all "your honor, I didn't even know they existed. The wind must have carried them to my property."

>>508648327
>>508647766
It's like a group of jew mobsters conspired together to cause issues for farmers.

>>508648327
Unavoidable with current laws
of genetic copyright

Farmers have to comply or generate new legislation

And is not the same as bikes they didn't stole a pedal and grew into a full bike

>>508648327
This takes human action and intent. Seeds flying into other people’s lands is pollution. If your tree falls on my property, you’re paying for the damage to my fence especially if I warned you to cut the branches. So your analogy is idiotic.

>>508648942
If some of the local fauna, a nigger for instance, leaves stolen goods on your property, and it accumulates the point that authorities notice it, you better have a good lawyer.

Monsanto's property is no different.

>>508643588
They are not market capitalist. We are the market capitalists. We can buy whatever we desire. Legally or illegally. They cannot. But as a market capitalist, you’re saying that it’s bad that they can get better beans from Brazil and Argentina for cheaper? That goes against the angloJew belief system.

>>508649292
That’s human intent nagger. Keep your f ing seeds out of my property or you have to pay for the clean up. You must be a nagger.

>>508649307
>they can get better beans from Brazil and Argentina
Why do you hate American farmers and say their products are inferior to 3rd world knockoffs?

It's the malicious intent. The vicious commies are just doing this to hurt American farmers. That's an act of war.

>>508648624
That's literally what Monsanto is. In that documentary farmers also said they were threatened by glowniggers in suits and other mafia shit. They try to drive them out of business.

>>508649292
Is this trolling?

>>508648624
They are called lobbyist and the mob went legal after the 90s cause there is more money f ing people legally than criminally. Pay day loans. Casinos, only fans etc. pharma , finance real estate development , etc

>>508649718
Oy vey there is a documentary spewing antisemitism? Which one is it? Time for it to get shoah'd.

>>508649647
State capitalism buddy. They quit communism in the 90s. Most farmers get paid not to farm their land in the Midwest, they cost is more than welfare naggers, not to mention the property tax subsidies. But I like your Bantz.

>>508645461
S o y beans
Onions
S o y

>>508649718
What documentary?

>>508635724
>onions treated so poorly
>this angers my inner OGRE
The SHREKKENING is coming kikes. Prepare for OGRE devastation!

>>508648327
This image is classic.

>>508630166 (OP)
how is this my problem?

>>508630479
>>508630550
>America
>cheaper food

KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!

Retarded faggots actually believe this shit. Farms will destroy food before the prices will go down. And the government will pay farmers to destroy their crops.

>>508650327
I forgot the title, it was an American documentary shown on Croatian TV back when they used to show real red pilling documentaries like that one or the one about how Pentagon couldn't have been hit by a plane or how Saddam got killed bcs petrodollar. All well researched with witnesses and shit but I bet they were never shown on American TV.
You could probably find it, there aren't many like that. It was the real production, not some YouTuber garage work. Maybe even on IBDM

>>508650890
A main goal is to starve the populous.

why don't we just make food free on thursdays

>>508649979
They still say they're striving to achieve true communism, but have a long way to go. I don't care what you call it, this unnatural fusion of socialism and nationalism is a threat to our democracy.

Do you see what these sick fucks do with overcapacity? They're bleeding themselves dry just to flood the world with underpriced goods to destroy the global economy and make us all as poor as commies.

Thank fuck we have leaders who aren't demoralized pinkos like you. Someone needs to bring the fight to China.

>>508651025
Not necessarily starve, but to keep supply low and demand type.

People who think "well if we don't sell the crops it'll just become cheaper for us" literally do not use their brains at all.

Over 100 days since Trump's been in office, and 100 days since USAID has been cancelled for third world countries. Billions of food aid cancelled. Yet, the food prices keeps going up in the US, but not a SINGLE person asked why the prices haven't gone down? And yet they expect THIS to drive food prices down?

It's the same shit here. Food prices don't go down below an accepted level.

>>508650890
We literally do exactly that in Canada. Copers who think farmers will be left to starve because of Chinese market manipulation are delusional and demoralized.

https://x.com/bambkb/status/1694173129898070453

>>508651516
Yes, they were pissed at him for showing this video. He wasn't allowed to give his milk away for free either.

>>508650327
I found it, it's a French documentary "The World According to Monsanto" from 2008
It's on YT

>>508651761
Free food would allow the poor people to start amassing savings for the two weeks it takes for us to adjust the other metrics to squeeze that out.

>>508630166 (OP)
If the chinks don't buy my milo and based-beans someone else will.

>>508652800
>do not, my friends, become addicted to food.
>it will take hold of you
>and you will resent its absence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYtpU5b2ALk

Someone's gotta play the role of the responsible parent.

>>508651841
beans

>>508643831
Shut up, colony. You only talk when we allow it.

>>508630479
>Means cheaper food for US.
wrong
>>508631044
wrong
>>508631096
right
>>508631735
right

so many MIGAtards are too low IQ to know how the real world works

>>508630694
You think despite "le everyone plans in decades while China plans in millennia" bloviating they can ACTUALLY think ahead in any meaningful way?
>4 pests campaign
>Great leap forward
>Deciding to be communist in general

>>508634386
God I hope so, I want them all to commit suicide.

>>508630166 (OP)
I didn't know a Canadian could be so ameribrained

>doesn't by my product
>this is an act of war

>>508630550
Farmers cannot afford to sell cheaper. They are already subsidized by the government as it is. Thank Fat Orange Idiot for higher taxes incoming to subsidize further the heartland that mistakenly voted for him.
t. New Yorker not happy new mayor is a jeet mudslime but better that than the corrupt nigger we have now

>>508635653
this
TKD

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