Even if there is a god - /pol/ (#508635281) [Archived: 837 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: O+GxOqSNUnited States
6/25/2025, 1:19:21 AM No.508635281
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Every single man-made religion would still be wrong.

If there really is an all-powerful creator of the cosmos, the god that you were brought up to believe in is still fictional.
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Anonymous ID: ZFsNB1dzUnited States
6/25/2025, 1:24:28 AM No.508635688
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Neither Judaism nor Islam can reconcile God's justice with His mercy.

Without Jesus Christ, one must be ignored for the other.
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Anonymous ID: ZFsNB1dzUnited States
6/25/2025, 1:24:44 AM No.508635711
How then can God be both merciful *and* just?

Consider a man who stands before a judge after having committed a crime.
That man's crime is not made directly against that judge personally, but against the laws of their country and society.
If the judge forgives the man and pardons him, then retribution and justice have been ignored for the sake of mercy.

However, when a man sins, he has committed crime against God directly and personally.
This is because he has broken the Law of God, which is itself an extension of God's Will.

To break God's Law is to directly transgress against the very essence of the Personhood of God Himself.
Fortunately for us, since we have transgressed directly against God, He has the Authority and Right to forgive us.

Then for Him, for Retribution to take place, *He willingly suffered* the penalties due to us for our sins for the express purpose that Justice could be done for the allowance of His Mercy through forgiveness, so that He may be further Glorified by His Love for us.

But, if a person decides to reject that payment of Justice and Mercy, when they stand before the Judgement Seat of God, Divine Retribution must fall upon that person's head for their transgressions, that God's Justice may be satisfied.
Anonymous ID: ZFsNB1dzUnited States
6/25/2025, 1:25:00 AM No.508635735
How can The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit be three separate persons but all One God?

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If you have three persons who are all called God, then you would have to apply every attribute of God to all three persons just as they are described in the Bible.

They would all have to be omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, the creator, the sustainer, perfectly righteous, perfectly just, loving, merciful, truthful, faithful, unchanging, eternal, infinite, Holy, The Most High.

Only the first 3 attributes listed here are needed to understand the Triunity of God.
Omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence.

A question that has found difficulty being answered since the beginning of Christianity is this, "How can The Father, Jesus The Son, and The Holy Spirit all be God if there is only One God?"

On the surface of this question it would seem to be an impossibility according to logic that we understand.
How can three be one?

If you apply the attribute of omnipotence to all three persons, then you may realize that a paradox could occur.
Hypothetically, imagine a scenario in which two of these omnipotent persons took an action against each other.
Whose will would prevail?
If they were both truly omnipotent, then it must be that both would prevail, but that would be an impossibility.
It would, at this point, seem that two or more omnipotent persons that have distinct wills could not exist at the same time.

However, a solution to this paradox is formed once you begin to apply the rest of the attributes of God to these persons.

If all three persons are omniscient, then they would all be wisdom itself, and knowledge itself.
They would, all three, have perfect understanding of all things, including the will of each other.
Having perfect knowledge, the decisions and actions of all three would be in perfect agreement in all ways.
Therefore, the paradox of omnipotence would never occur.
In fact, it is the paradox of omnipotence that becomes the impossibility.
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Anonymous ID: ZFsNB1dzUnited States
6/25/2025, 1:25:17 AM No.508635754
>>508635735
Next, look at the attribute of omnipresence.
This answers the question that is the most difficult to reconcile with our logic.
How can three be one?

This must be considered carefully and honestly, but the solution is both beautiful and simple.
If these three persons are all omnipresent, then that would mean that all three of them exist perfectly and entirely within each other in every place and in every way.
They would seemingly be separate to us, but one in truth.

They all three occupy, within each other, The Most High place, that is, the Throne of God, in perfect unity.

The Father exists perfectly and entirely within both the Son and The Spirit.
The Son exists perfectly and entirely within both the Spirit and The Father.
The Spirit exists perfectly and entirely within both the Father and The Son.
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Anonymous ID: ZFsNB1dzUnited States
6/25/2025, 1:25:41 AM No.508635786
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Anonymous ID: +V67ZC2RUnited States
6/25/2025, 1:25:44 AM No.508635789
>>508635281 (OP)
Nah, my god is right, you are going to hell.
Anonymous ID: I78GVTjOUnited States
6/25/2025, 1:26:10 AM No.508635831
>pepe as OP pic
Anonymous ID: 0RqcLBvwUnited States
6/25/2025, 1:26:18 AM No.508635845
>>508635754
>Spamming/flooding
Anonymous ID: GrdLDnDuCanada
6/25/2025, 1:26:39 AM No.508635868
>>508635281 (OP)
Historically. Culturally. Truthfully. It’s Jesus Christ.

Give up your other beliefs.
Anonymous ID: iRQjtEbfSweden
6/25/2025, 1:27:00 AM No.508635895
>>508635688
>Jesus fulfills Jewish prophecy
>"HE MUST BE GOD"
Anonymous ID: RCG7ifslUnited States
6/25/2025, 1:34:51 AM No.508636497
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>>508635281 (OP)
I like to think of it like that story about a group of blind people trying to identify an elephant. Different religions can identify aspects of the divine, but none of them has the whole picture because God is unknowable. Just because the entirety of a tradition isn't true, doesn't mean that it doesn't contain truths.