Thread 508682746

>>508682746 (OP)
Oh no!
Anyway

>>508682746 (OP)
>TRUMP APPROVAL COLLAPSES AFTER IRAN STRIKE
Yeah, he lost my support because of that. I voted for him based on him running as an anti-war candidate, but here he went and did the OPPOSITE of what he promised. So fuck him.

I think Iran came out ahead, all things considered. Trump lost BIGLY from this and didn't do any meaningful damage to that mountain he hit. He's term-locked so maybe it doesn't matter anyway, but this would have cost him re-election probably.

Not even Biden fucked up this bad this quickly

>>508683013
Iran took it and cucked out. No war. Enemy countries weaker. Trump once again displays American power. We've already bombed their generals so who cares lol.

>>508683224
If the war was going so well for Israel, why did they beg for a ceasefire? You're a goddamn idiot lol. Far from preventing Iran from building a nuclear weapon, all this did was strengthen them in their determination to make one

>>508683345
>asking for a ceasefire after your enemy's nuclear program got fucked while you took little damage
Israel and America came out on top big time, idk what alternate reality you came from haha

>>508683224
> 2015 to 2018, iran is the most inspected place in the world when it comes to nuclear enrichment thanks ti JCPOA
> In comes trump who pulls out of it
> In comes trump again who unsuccessfully bombs the sites without getting rid of neither the centrifuges nor the enriched uranium
>iran votes a ban on IAEA inspections and a new policy of nuclear ambiguity that mirrors Israel's stance
>a matter of weeks before they pull out of the NPT as well
Truly, he must be the greatest strategic and tactical genius this world has ever witnessed. That's even more impressive than Bush toppling Saddam just so Iran gets to take over the country through it's proxies after marines died to prepare the terrain for them

Is that 4d chess?

>>508683224
>We've already bombed their generals so who cares lol.
The general that leads the IRGC that Israel claimed they took out was seen at Iran's victory parade yesterday. He wasn't really killed. A lot of the other ones reportedly killed probably really weren't either.

>>508683517
Where is the proof that Iran's nuclear program was destroyed? It was a face-saving maneuver cooked up by Trump and Netanyahu. You're just a kike shill.

Over 5,000 yids were made homeless by Iran's missile strikes, and they were pulling their punches. Israel ran out of interceptor missiles and not even the US could have made enough at the rate they were being used. All the world see you kikes for what you really are. Cope harder faggot

>>508682746 (OP)
You have to go back Goatfucker

>>508683567
>Is that 4d chess?
It is if the goal was actually to undermine Israel and make Iran stronger in a convoluted way so as to not seem obvious about it.

>>508683517
You are desperate to believe the propaganda that their nuclear program got fucked
In reality, the world now acknowledges Iran's need for a nuclear weapon in order to defend themselves from an openly aggressive religious fundamentalist nuclear nation, Israel
No seriously, there is no longer any reason that can be provided for Iran to not have nukes that doesn't apply to Israel 10 fold

>>508682746 (OP)
The way trump handled this is objectively flawless even if you hate trump

>>508683567
>That's even more impressive than Bush toppling Saddam just so Iran gets to take over the country through it's proxies after marines died to prepare the terrain for them
he's definitely following the bush playbook.

>>508682746 (OP)
You lost

>>508683764
Flawless if his state objective was enabling Iran to acquire nukes maybe. Otherwise it is disastrous

Inb4 bullshit takes: >>508683567

>>508683764
>The way trump handled this is objectively flawless even if you hate trump
if you like the build up for a prolonged conflict with iran, sure. Iran, if not building a nuke before, will absolutely be doing so now and countries like Russia and China you bet are thinking of putting nuclear weapons in Iran now.

>>508683130
Ye and he's a whiteass crackass bitchass so it's not going too well for them united but also divides states over the pond. That said.. I'd rather cruise in one of the older Cadillacs than a Lada, but also I rather get my dicky sticky in someone from Ladaland than DSI

>>508683567
>>508683645
>have to start over
>have proven they can't and wont do anything if B2s bomb their asses again
big wins for sure lol
>>508683646
my point is that they dont seem to do much when their knocked down. Like when Trump squished Soleimani.

>>508683224
No unconditional surrender, no regime change and nuclear program still rolling
Iran WON, (you) lost, deal with it kikefaggot niggerbitch

>>508683692
>>508683759
>it wasnt destroyed
>b-but even if it was it doesn't matter
c'mon man this is cope. Iran just got teabagged in front of the world and countries like China and Russia aren't going to do anything to help.

>>508683764
>the US and Israel's reputations are destroyed (more cooked than they already were)
>Israel's deterrence capability is ruined, everyone knows they aren't invincible
>Iran is strengthened diplomatically, with multiple countries offering to give them nukes outright
>Iran is strengthened in its determination to create a nuclear weapon
>Iranian "progressives" are exposed as cucks, hardliners' arguments strengthened
>Iran loses faith in diplomatic solutions
Yeah real great job dumbass

>>508683910
>oh no! Anyway haha
>continues desperately defending the narrative
Lmao you're an Israeli loyalists. Redcoats will never be patriots

>>508684029
>Not a single kike demand met
Keep playing

>>508683910
>wont do anything if B2s bomb their asses again
Ok so you just admit right here we are going to be doing this again and again and again. Which is exactly the point I'm getting at about being in a prolonged ass conflict with no start or end date.

>my point is that they dont seem to do much when their knocked down. Like when Trump squished Soleimani.

Two nuclear weapon owning countries with the largest military industrial complexes on earth threatens your country, I'm sure you would act very different right?

>>508684029
It's funny you have to resort to bragging about a strike you have no confirmation of, meanwhile Russia is still confirmed to be in Hunter Bidens Ukraine lol
Zog dogs really are desperate to get any kind of victory at this point after their embarrassing parade

I'm one of the few people in my country who actually thinks trump is pretty cool. He is kinda retarded and he wants to annex our territory, but I still think he's pretty cool. If I was american I'd definitely vote for him.

>>508683910
They don't have to start over what they weren't pursuing to begin with. You just gave them the incentive and gave other countries an incentive to ship nukes there as well.
That country went from the most inspected place on earth to a blackbox and your own intelligence now states that there are nuclear sites in unknown underground locations.

You don't poke your enemy, you decapitate it or you'll pay the price for that later. Don't flip and cry like a bitch about zion don fooling you again because this time, it's obvious for anyone to see

>>508684241
Trump is a pretty cool kike cumrag, that's for sure

>>508684094
cope. Trump is your prezzo.

>>508684316
George was our king, loyalist

>>508684029
Iran has been preparing itself for a confrontation with Israel and the United States for years. Do you really think they'd be stupid enough to put all their eggs in one basket? Everyone and their mother knew the US was going to attack Fordow. Even if the bombs did penetrate the mountain bunker, which is something you have no evidence of, they already said they moved their shit outside of it in advance

>>508684012
>no surrender
they dont need to surrender because they have just accepted our bombs as a fact of life lol

>>508684109
i dont care about some kike demand. I dont even know what demands youre talking about

These were the internal numbers that Trump became aware of and a large reason as to why he is not *openly supporting Israel currently.
War is fucking unpopular, war caused by and on behalf of another nation is fucking intolerable.

>new pol shows
Fuck outta here before you get hurt nigger.

>>508683759
>the world now acknowledges
i don't acknowledge shit anon, i have even less trust to people who believe in the afterlife

>>508684389
Trump asked for unconditional surrender, regime change and no nuclear program, guess what?
Bibi demanded that since the start, such objectives haven't been achieved
(You) Lost the kike war of agression, not content enough for that, the kike side begged for peace, now that's what i call a BIG FAT LOSS
KEK

>>508684127
>Ok so you just admit right here we are going to be doing this again and again and again
Iran was probably set back pretty far... so we might not even do anything for a long time
>Two nuclear weapon owning countries with the largest military industrial complexes on earth threatens your country, I'm sure you would act very different right?
well im not a islam obsessed mudslime so it aint my problem. Maybe Iran should do what we ask and stop acting dumb.

>>508684195
>bragging about a strike you have no confirmation of
lol ok

>>508683790
>he's definitely following the bush playbook.
Clinton bombed Iraq throughout the 90s (especially to help distract attention away from his own sex scandals).

>>508684526
asking for something on Twitter isnt the same as specifically demanding it. Trump is trash talking as per usual. Iran cant do anything but seethe.

>>508684363
just two more decades and Iran will finally destroy Israel

>>508684682
Now that's what i call cope, well, saying that you won on twitter is not winning irl, at least it was a total twatter victory i guess LMAO

>>508684389
Very smart, very smart timmy.
>Pull out of the deal that makes iran the most inspected and surveilled country on earth and pull IAEA out with you
>Drop inconsequential bombs on a site everyone and their mother knew was going to be bombed
> Realize they moved out alk centrifuges and enriched uranium
> Realize there's an even deeper and more important underground site in Isfahan that's intact
> your own Intel agencies warn you of multiple undisclosed underground sites like Fordow that are so far impossible to locate
> iran now has both the incentive and means to make a bomb and other countries are stepping in to help

Great fucking job, mastery at strategy.

>>508684470
Shut the fuck up, kike.

>>508683013
Former trump voter here. Its hilarious watching him crash and burn. But in all seriousness we cant let him get the nuclear codes

>>508684592
You're an Israeli loyalist m8, please don't fool yourself in to believing you're at all a patriot

>>508682746 (OP)
>www.masslive.com
That's quite a source you got there. It would be a 'shame' if something happened to it.

>>508684796
>we got bootyblasted but at least we are still alive
pffft this is not a victory

>>508684904
>Drop inconsequential bombs
this is cope

>>508683645
Oy Vey! How else are we going to know where their uranium is and the home addresses of all their scientists!

>>508685386
Wait, there's news from Iran, they're saying their nuclear program is completely absolutely destroyed with 6 billion damage triple overkill, you guys did a splendid job, now everyone can go home and problem solved! Thank you orange chi- i mean President Dolan!

>>508685422
No it's not. It's not a denial of the strategic importance of B2 stealth bombers or gbu57s but of the strategy.

You're telling me he bombed a site that was emptied of all enriched uranium and centrifuges and that your intelligence agencies have assessed that multiple other site like this one exists in the zagros mountain chains with no clue about their location?

You're right, it's not inconsequential, especially when you're the Iranian government who's now certain that the next round will be played in a matter of months. They have the life or death incentive now and the means, and the foreign involvement to build the bombs they weren't pursuing so far.

And to add insult to injury, there's a growing number of voices stating that even the damage made to Fordow was grossly overstated

>>508683567
The JCPOA wasn't perfect, but its better than the half assed strategy we have now where the US has no leverage over Iran (no carrot on a stick) and they are more afraid of regime change and desperate. If Israel and Saudis and USA stop niggering out and making Iran fear regime change then they would have no need for a nuke. Same deal with NATO and Russia. Trump tore it up because he never got over Obama roasting him at the white house dinner and he is in deep with the Kushner jew mafia and mossad

>>508682834
every time

>>508683645
>Punch you in the face while pretending to give you a handshake
>What do you mean you don't trust me and you bought a gun?

>>508686119
And I say half assed because at this point your better off just regime changing Iran but Trump is too pussy to even do that? You can't pick an inbetween, you either crush them or make peace not do nothing so they get stronger and actually eventually make the nukes

>>508685789
>we were making a bomb
>but also we weren't
>and the stuff we weren't using to maybe make a bomb was definitely not destroyed
>but also we will definitely make it now!
>glory to allah in 2 more decades!
away with you, memeflag

>>508686119
That's where you're blind.
You think Trump tore the JCPOA because of Obama.
He did it because he was told to, and because it was part of the clean break strategy.
Proof being the assassination of Soleimani and Iranian scientists in his 1st term. That was as far as he could've gone to trigger a casus belli.

Since he step foot in the white house for the 1st time, he did everything he could to trigger an Iranian reaction and precipitate a war.


Next round of this shitshow is due in a few months if not weeks. Watch it unfold

>>508682746 (OP)

hows that democrat approval going for you?

still 20%?

ah.

>>508685422
Israel's stated objectives were regime change and taking away Iran's ability to produce a nuclear weapon. Neither of those things happened. So yes, Iran took a beating, but it was by definition inconsequential. This whole thing was just a massive self-own by Israel and the United States

>>508683013
Same. Cucking to isreal and putting isreal First and America Lasy was a deal breaker for me.

>>508685092
It's just a shill arguing in bad faith from some ruined building in Tel Aviv

>>508686420
Yeah, none of what i said is ambiguous as you frame.
>They weren't making a bomb by the acknowledgement of your own intel agencies and IAEA.
>They used to be the most inspected country on earth during the JCPOA
>Retarded Khamenei and his retarded haram nukes fatwa kept non retarded party members like Ahmedinejad in check
Since Trump pulled out of the JCPOA and killed Soleimani, their entire strategy was getting in a position where they could quickly develop a nuke as soon as they're attacked and that's what they prepared for.


Fast forward to after the attack on fordow:
> site isn't nearly as damaged as bibi and Trump claimed
> centrifuges and enriched uranium were moved in locations unknown to Israeli and the US
> reports of isfahan underground facilities being intact
> reports of multiple other underground facilities that the US weren't able to locate
> other countries state their intention to move weapons and nukes to Iran
> the mullahs and revolutionary guard both know that next round will happen soon and will be for their heads

You can't make a shittier plan even if you intentionally wanted this outcome

Boomers are such a fucking scourge.

Also interesting how few of them respond “don’t know”. The Boomers are so sure they know what’s right when they are most likely the most misinformed about Iran. Fox News is a fucking farce.

When someone shows me who they really are it’s my policy to believe them. Trump let the mask slip and there’s no unseeing that. He’s a greater Israel Zionist, not America first.

>>508683646
Israel never claimed to kill the guy, that was made by the new york times alone, offical Israeli casualty charts even marked him as alive

If too many people become unhappy about a dictator, then the government is soon gone. But in liberal democracy (not liberal, not democratic) it's different. Leaders can be replaced every about 4-6 years. If too many people are unhappy there just needs to be a new leader. People never realize that leaders like Trump/Biden/Putin are sock puppets and the true leaders are hidden and don't change.

>>508686695
Bruh - if the US is an equal partner or benefactor to isreal, we could have told them to stop their attacks and they’d have stopped. That’s what you do when your benefactor or partner tells you to stop.

If isreal is the master and the US is the slave, the slave has to concoct some circuitous 8D chess plan conducted at great risk and expense to slightly put the master off his goal.

Fucking embarrassing.

>>508686420
>won't somebody think of the WHITE POWDER, GOY?!? NOW GET THE FUCK IN IRAN YOU FILTHY SERFS

>>508687031
You know the rules girl. Show tits or we dont give a shit what you have to say

>>508682746 (OP)

It will recover the moment he proves he ended the war with just a symbolic bombing.

>>508683645

kek, the IAEA was caught giving info to the Israelis so they could assassinate the scientists.

>>508687240
Even normies are now aware of the pervasive influence of the cancer that is Zionism running rampant across our political system. That's the one silver lining from all this. We can't allow people to forget.