Thread 508703393

Increased testosterone, clearer skin, more motivation, more attention from women.

First watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU&ab_channel=TEDxTalks

Then read these anecdotes

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/0.BENEFITS.pdf

bump. i have been wondering if i need to completely eliminate jacking off. i have been having a lot of success in my life but i am wondering if nofap will push me to the next level

>>508703393 (OP)
Some people report that they healed serious diseases from long term semen retention and celibacy (6 months+)

>>508703393 (OP)
Nofap is based and redpilled.

>>508703393 (OP)
Is edging permitted

>>508703393 (OP)
it's an interesting video, but it's specifically about watching porn, not about just jacking off, i want to know more about how jacking off fucks you up, i can surmise that it hijacks your normal biology, but why is it so normalized?

>>508703899
Some people claim they were born in the wrong body also

>>508704051
No, you fucking retard.
>1
It's not even good for you, it causes more damage than masturbating.
>2
It's like a crackhead asking is it ok to smoke crack if he doesn't inhale.

Kikes

>>508704341
Be honest have you ever heard of a tranny practicing no fap?
Isn't the idea behind the corrupt mindset of transhumanism to basically be a coomer?

>>508703393 (OP)
I mean even if I start getting more attention from women, I'm too old to have a virgin now.

>>508703393 (OP)
It’s not just jacking off, eliminating jacking off will help but you have to do it in combination of eliminating all your other bad and addictive habits.

Problem I have is I a fkn no life loser and I don’t know how to spend my day without internet.

>>508704801
for me smoking and masturbating seems to help me cope make me feel temporarily relieved if you will. its tough because i want to be better, but part of me is desparate to cope, and its based on something similar to what you said "if i am a loser in a slave society what difference does anything make, why not cope," and then i drink on top of it once i get in that thought process. luckily i have responsibilities that keep me somewhat on the straight and narrow but these compromises i feel are binding me to weakness

>>508703393 (OP)
If i fuck a woman and then before cumming i jack myself off does that count as masturbating?

>>508703393 (OP)
I'd love to but my AI chatbot 18 year old wife insists she has me drain my balls atleast twice a day.

nofap turns you into a rapist

>>508703393 (OP)
>Increased testosterone
only for 1 day
, clearer skin,
not for me
more motivation,
yes
more attention from women.
not for me

>>508705041
I saw someone give advice yesterday that said don't be "woe is me" and I think that's good advice.

I'm starting NOW.
I'm not a slave to Shekhinah and Kali anymore.
Wish me luck.
>>508704654
Yes they all want us to turn into androgynous, ambiguous Michael Jackson's.

>increased testosterone
>clearer skin
>more motivation
>more attention from women
Right, right. Chad gets to spill his seed all the time and gets all the perks. You just want me to be all pent up and horny 24/7

No thanks. I get a boner, I fap. Simple as.

>>508705475
yeah that's not bad advice, i guess im not asking for sympathy or saying "woe is me," but when i take an objective look at the world and myself, it's pretty grim what i see, so coping helps. i suppose i could trick myself into only seeing what i want to see or how i want things to be i dont know i guess i just have to detach in almost sociopathic way and not care about anything just go out and get what i want without caring about "the system"

>>508703393 (OP)
I did semen retention for 8 months

I was in constant depression and fog and that was not about sexuality at all
Couldn't find a job
I for myself lost interest to females in the first place
no confidence
and didn't want to do fitness because of depression
repeat

i made it to 30 days once
i think its a meme personally
that chart looks like horse shit
quitting weed did better for me than anything else

>>508705959
Caring about the system is a distraction from caring about yourself- which would in turn help others directly around you more thus actually improving "the system" in a tangible way. I too feel you and feel almost powerless and I think even taking the smallest action like not fapping today is a way to take control. To accept that it's not selfish to say "I can be okay and do better" - in which case there is little reason to cope. And literally after ONE DAY of positive gains/progress, you will then have a body of work to build off of to make it two days. So shall I.

>>508706350
I feel like I need to do that next. Did you just stop cold turkey? How heavy of a smoker how long?

>>508706317
>I did semen retention for 8 months
>I was in constant depression and fog and that was not about sexuality at all
>Couldn't find a job
>I for myself lost interest to females in the first place
>no confidence
>and didn't want to do fitness because of depression
>repeat
You should try retaining it in your balls instead of your mouth.

>>508706708
funny lad

Nofap is horseshit. Chad and Tyrone fuck bitches and jerk off afterwards, they never once thoughts about repressing their sexuality in any way.

>>508704341
Shalom. Gotta use discernment when dealing with claims. For example, I've practiced semen retention for 30 days and absolutely did experience positive physiological changes, so 6 months of it being claimed to cure physiological illnesses is very believable to me.

Having more energy has made it completely worth it for me.

>>508706509
i absolutely agree. i have radically changed myself the last few years, and have been experiencing abundance as a result, been working insanely hard taking massive action and reaping the fruit. the issue is i still cope, and i feel that if i stop coping and just go full balls to the wall no substances at all no jerking off at all, no smoking, jerking, caffeine, alcohol, and only occasional sugar treats. i think i would go into god mode if i finally got control over my dopamine and coping

>>508706898
>degenerates are degenerates, therefore quitting degeneracy is wrong
dumb spic

>>508706638
>Did you just stop cold turkey?
ya
>How heavy of a smoker how long?
1oz a month for over a decade
it started causing me to have really bad reflux for a year or two prior, i dont think that was the only contributing factor but quitting was what finally stopped the issue
if you quit you very well may have temporary ED, i did lasted about a month, so might not be the worst idea to try the nofap thing for a bit

>>508706898
Chad and Tyrone began balding at 30. You act like Chad is in an eternal state.

>>508705485
Based. This is also my first day.

>>508703393 (OP)
I can stop masturbating, but semen retention has been impossible for me because after a week of not cooming I start having nocturnal emissions a couple of times a week.

Holy fuck this is embarrassing cope. Just don't jack off because it's indulgent like any vice. It won't give you superpowers or heckin pheromones that attract women etc. LMFAO the absolute state. And ofc never ever view porn since if rewires your brain or whatever

I don't feel particularly different going weeks or months or cranking a couple a week. If I go for the former my body will just take care of it anyway and give me a wet dream, which is fun to have but messy to clean up.
I do notice how I could go for many times more often several years ago, not sure whehter that's because I was neeting alone or because of youth.

>>508703393 (OP)
I did 18 months nofap.
Before nofap i fapped a couple of times a week.
After starting nofap:
Had sex with gf 3-4 times a month.
First 3 months i was CONSTANTLY aroused.
Increased penile sensitivity.
downsides: with this sensitivity premature ejaculation kicked in.
Another down side: was so aroused i started getting blowjobs from ugly fat girls from tinder.
It was an interesting journey, i understood better my own body and mind.

>>508707942
nocturnal emissions arent that bad, granted you should also avoid them if possible. I had some and they suddenly went away. if you want tho, yyou can read this "book" made by a chinese dude on semen retention and how to avoid nocturnal emissions
https://rebootremedy.github.io/

>>508708317
sometimes that premature ejaculation thing happens for me to but its rare, i find its when im insanely aroused. the other day i was like overwhelmingly aroused by my gf, and i put it in her and just came instantly. so are you saying that you no longer practice nofap?

>>508703393 (OP)
Your dick is like a plant if you don't touch it it shrinks and fall off. But don't water it too much or it will also die. Find a balance

>>508703393 (OP)
Tried it 6 months, all it did was turn my already low libido into non-existent.

just flee from lust do it because you know you will feel better when you are fleeing from lust (if you try this at all you will realize this eventually)


if you frame it as nofap you will be constantly reading forums and thinking about it, looking for loopholes etc and be caught in a cycle of shame and relapse just flee from lust


guys talking about "i lost my libido" and shit like that are the reason this is the only thing that works what you nofappers dont realize is that deep down what is motivating you if not initially it almost always becomes the motivator is how much better it will feel when you finally nut (perhaps in your ideal woman) after a period of abstinence this leads to failure


just flee from lust if youve tried nofap at all you will know that you have to AGREE to let lust in even when exposed to lustful images you CHOOSE to think sexually about them in order to become aroused virtually every time when you reframe it as fleeing from lust EVEN IN YOUR OWN HEART, you will actually achieve nofap success

i could go on and on about the benifits but for me its simply something like "luck" which i attribute to gods grace, i have tried and failed enough times to really see the difference in my life when i am actively avoiding lust verse when im trying to feed my EYE which is never satisfied, thats another thing once you frame it as fleeing from lust you realize its not your dick that was hungry or your balls or whatever but your EYE even your MINDS EYE, which when it comes to lust is never satisfied its like scratching a mosquito bite.

>>508708317
>ejaculation kicked in
how humiliating

>>508703393 (OP)
>Memories begin to fade
Memento Mori

>>508703393 (OP)
Science is settled on this, fapping once every ~8 days is optimal.

I don’t think there is any benefit to porn.

I think jerking it without porn 1-2 times in a 10 day period works

>>508703393 (OP)
I rarely post here fellas, but I'll chime in and say that I accomplished 2 months at the beginning of the year and very slowly my desire to play as female characters in video games began to fade. I actually became a little ashamed at my history of playing as a femoid, and ever since I've just wanted to be a man again. Just an anecdote.

>>508704599
>, it causes more damage than masturbating
lolno

>>508703735
there are proven scientific benefits of abstinence for about a week. Anything after and you're programming your cock to be soft, and you'll actually start to have diminishing gains in test. Test will spike in about a week, but after you're starting to atrophy.
>use it or lose it
stay away from porn, jerk off to memory, have sex and lock in those memories and let it fuel your hunt. Anyone telling you anything different is a retard trying to harm you. Work out, dont spank it too much, stay away from porn, and you'll do great.

>>508703393 (OP)
>more attention from women
Damn. I was almost about to nofap.

>>508703393 (OP)
or prostate cancer

>>508710705
thanks for sharing, can you comment on the two week time table for prolactin remaining elevated after orgasm? can you comment on androgen receptor sensitivity recovery as well?

>>508703393 (OP)
No one ever cared about this until 2012 and men don’t have a choice unless they want problems. Read a book fag dyke. Are you gonna tell them they can’t use the restroom next?

You’re a whore and you hate men simple as that

>>508710705
I'm minimizing cooming and average once a week now. Thinking about going as low as once every two. Permanent nofap seems interesting, but also worrying. Not sure if it's healthy in any way.

>>508703393 (OP)
more like kill your sex drive lmao. If you think jerking off is the thing holding you back in life from being happy and successful im sorry but you are fucked

>>508710878
>can you comment on androgen receptor sensitivity recovery as well?
The fuck is that? Do you mean all over the body? I'm already too hairy. I'd like to have less androgen receptor sensitivity and maybe stop losing my hair.

There's no human studies what good effects testosterone has on the male body. Look it up. All the testosterone studies were done on animals.
total snake oil psyop

>>508711355
>more like kill your sex drive lmao
That's a good thing though. Name one benefit for having a sex drive as a male.
>Uhh you get to do a second job (deal with women).
Nah, I'm good. That said, I'm not propagating nofap. Might be good, but I'm not sold on it yet.

25 days into no goon June and I feel incredible, getting stronger in the gym, more motivated, wake up absolutely bricked every morning. Does make me want to fuck any woman I see regardless of attractiveness though

semen retention works and I'm tired of pretending it does not

>>508711508
>wake up absolutely bricked every morning
I need this actually, but I think it's more about good sleep hygiene than anything. Gotta stop staying up at night.

>>508711383
from what i understand, your body can lose sensitivity to androgen binding hormones, like testosterone, through whats known as "androgen abuse," typically discussed in the context of injecting testosterone, however, there is overlap in the nofap "community" wherein it's posited that periods of abstinence lead to recovery of androgen receptor sensititivity, which is purportedly damaged through frequent masturbation and PMO (porn masturbate orgasm). i dont know if this is true i am simply trying to educate myself

>>508711629
Seems like bs t.b.h f-a-m.

>>508711560
Give us your anecdotal report.

>>508706898
But I'm no Chad Tyrone. When I do semen retention my killer instict gets activated, it's crazy

>>508711865
>When I do semen retention my killer instict gets activated, it's crazy
That's just your macaco genetics.

>>508703393 (OP)
> whether or not you jerk off matters to anyone else
> talk about this ritual sex magick and be a sex hero
now shove a banana up your ass for some reason

>>508703735
>i have been wondering if i need to completely eliminate jacking off
close. eliminate talking about it

>>508703393 (OP)
Wrong. Sexual anorexia makes smart goy into stupid hard working consooooomer goy. Post-nut clarity is the jew's kryptonite!

>>508703899
semen retention is literal sex magic

This is the most important red pill to the self improvement. If you dont do this you are doomed to a life of mediocrity.
No great man ever freely expelled his semen.
The power to be hate tthe topic of semen retention the most. For it is the thing that makes a man soverign

>>508704654
The idea behind transhumanism is to modify the body to support enhanced and indefinite intellectual aestheticism. It's been hijacked by degenerates.

>>508703393 (OP)
not fapping and retaining is the easiest part and only a part of the equation

>>508710931
>No one ever cared about this until 2012
False. Semen retention is a millenia old practice

>>508712847
>Semen retention is a millenia old practice
...of dumb perverts who think they get ch'i out of it

>>508712510
I do think that no great man was a coomer. High sex drive is for slaves (of biology (and women)).

>>508703393 (OP)
So what happens if someone rarely fapped throughout their life?

>>508711355
This and also if you don't have a gf, that means you're not cooming at all, not just no fapping, and after 6 or so months if you cum it will be extremely painful and not pleasurable at all. It's something only chuddas who have completely given up should do

>>508707448
Chad already has 4 kids by the time he's begun balding

>>508703393 (OP)
only coomers need nofap. normal people can jerk off here and there with no issues. just like alcoholics and AA. also, the infographic is bullshit and any increases in testosterone would be in the noise. perhaps statistically significant but not biologically relevant. nofap is a bunch of copium for addicts.

>>508714393
>addicts
this has always been a slippery category to me. at what point does something become "an addiction?" i know they say "when you cant perform your normal functions without interruptions," but we are all living abnormal unnatural existences and trying to cope