The only good one is a dead one

lol

>>508714187 (OP)
Go away jew.

>>508714187 (OP)
Somebody's upset about something. Was it New York

>2025
>still caring about commies
Nigger we are being fucking demographically replaced

Zionists don't seem to like Communists very much. I wonder why that is

That gun will make it very easy for you to commit suicide, OP. Best of luck!

>>508714187 (OP)
Impotent boomer

it's a retarded ideology but it's not communists making my life worse thoughbeit.

Hope you get your murder fantasies under control before it's too late and they consume you utterly. Consider therapy!

>>508714187 (OP)
False target. There's a bigger fish.

>>508715203
Rent might go down in New York, which is why OP wants to execute people with a gun.

>>508714187 (OP)
capitalism is failing
communism is working
America on the decline
China on the rise
fix it or lose it

>>508714187 (OP)
I love it when shitskin fascists kill White commies. Its the real fascism. Shitskins are the real fascism. John Doyle is a fascism.

If workers were able to have housing, food, and leisure, then OP would have less money and might even have to do some work himself. Because OP is a fundamentally evil parasite, this leads him to violent, dark thoughts -- murdering the workers.

>>508714187 (OP)
nice try kike

>>508715328
You should be skinned alive for having that GAY tripcode

>>508715332
china is not communist thoughbeit. the actual issue with communism is that it cannot actually exist in an urban society.

How many foreign workers have communists imported?

>>508714187 (OP)
Haha cope

>>508715579
... in my particular case, being skinned alive would not even be that bad. So I don't worry about it.

>>508714187 (OP)
Based. Fuck women figuratively and literally

>>508714187 (OP)
>The only good one is a dead one
die you fucking kike. turns out marxists are the anti-kikes

>>508715630
>New Economic Policy was not actually Communism
T:Enver Hoxha

>>508714187 (OP)
Communists is a dog whistle for jews

>>508715332
>capitalism is failing
People are more wealthy than ever before thanks to capitalism. China meanwhile has reached its demographic peak and is starting to fail

>>508715802
he's definitely mad that rent may go down in New York; that's why he's fantasizing about murdering people... that's who our enemies really are: basically pure evil.

>>508715903
>rent control lowers prices
>no longer cost effective to maintain apartments
>nobody wants to buy them
>they slowly turn to rubble
>"why is nobody building or fixing apartments????"
>this is your brain on communism

The anti-communist push is very confusing. Both sides of this have been propagandized to shit. And in fact, in many situations, people like OP are less intelligent to even the full of shit larping communists.

We all see the issues... billionaires running the country, (((Insurance))) usury , house prices. Our economy is mostly people buying shit, and then on the "grey market" trying to flip everything higher than retail. This is no way to live.

We are already heavily subsidized. That's how we keep stuff like farming going. They're subsidized. The entire anti-communist rhetoric is rooted in protecting capitalism. Capitalism is the nice in theory, but in practice it looks more like nancy pelosi making 100 million while you and your family scrape by. That's capitalism.

Capitalism is being afraid to goto the doctor because you know it's going to cost a lot. That's capitalism. Some investment house trying to buy your house to rent it at 200% what you pay is capitalism.

People talk about it as though any system has to be all or nothing. This is stupid. And a lot of people who push communism are cringe, and sound like vegans. But make no mistake, capitalism sucks.

if the parasites are ever threatened with being cut off from their hosts, they respond with violence

this is why they hate Marxists.

>>508716142
>subsidizing unprofitable things is capitalism
>government regulation banning manufacture of healthcare products without paying $300 million in testing is capitalism

>9 posts by this ID

if the capitalists could no longer steal the wealth that is produced by the workers, through financial parasitism, then they would have to work themselves. this is what they're so mad about.

to challenge capitalism is to challenge the Zionist Empire itself: the end of capitalism will be the end of the Jews

>>508714187 (OP)
capitalists are to blame for the hordes of immigrants though

>>508715845
i will believe communism can in actuality exist in an urban society when i see it happen. the prospect of this materializing seems questionable.

>>508714187 (OP)
Their red hats make them easier targets.

>>508716341
no, what I meant is that those things are more in line w\ socialism / communism. As in, we already have a lot of it.

The healthcare industry is a huge red flag. We COULD have "universal healthcare" but instead we've created a system so guys like united healthcare can profit endless billions per year to the detriment of the average american. The entire insurance system is fucked, and in some cases united will be "negotiating" prices between 2 parties they control

>>508716615
visit China. See it for yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcxjMYCWJNI

>>508716569
just a heads up you should probably not use a memeflag. people will assume you are a fed/jew hiding their israeli location.

>>508716569
Ironically most of the people who push communism are also brainwashed by zionist rhetoric

>>508716825
I'm not worried; not even about being murdered.

>>508716825
https://youtu.be/Dd89BM4ybRw

>>508714187 (OP)
Communism is a euphemism for Judaism. So is atheism and feminism.

>>508716579

It's fucked because immigration is the right wing abortion issue for elections. Except in the case of immigration, they really did let millions of people in so there is actually a legitimate concern. The capitalists rely on the cheap brown labor.

And then ironically, it's left wing people that defend this without realizing they are shilling for capitalist to have slave labor.

>>508715894
> People are more wealthy than ever before thanks to capitalism
Yet people are more and more miserable and depressed

>>508716789
oh i'm seeing it, oh i'm seeing it. oh how wrong i was! methinks this is real communism, bros...

>>508717063
Because racism is leftists number 1 concern

>>508717280
China is doing far better than Canada and the US. There's no question that they have a superior economic and political system.

>>508714187 (OP)
Nobody falls for this anymore besides retarded boomers and their ilk.

>>508716909
okay that is fine and dandy but seriously, most users will see a memeflag and assume what you have written is a state psyop and either disregard it or actually feel compelled to think the opposite out of spite.

Cry as much as you want, Mao was correct. In order for society to progress, the parasites (landlords, rent-seekers) need to be culled.

>>508717369
moot point. i am saying china is not communist.

>>508717464
Caring about what idiots may think is a mistake. I don't care what idiots think. Authenticity is more important.

>>508717551
China has a superior system. We should learn from that, and emulate it

>>508716774
Your examples against capitalism are all ignoring the issue of regulation which is inherently communist; insulin is only expensive because of copyright laws and regulations that make it illegal for competition to arise.
Also, universal healthcare is just ignoring scarcity: some procedures are inherently more expensive due to more effort, specialization, or rare components.

>>508714187 (OP)
You lost tranny

>>508714187 (OP)
communism will win.

>>508717662
The people profiting from insulin are the people who write the regulations to create the monopoly... it's all capitalists doing this, not Communists.

thread is perfect example of how much bunkertrannoids pozzed /pol/

>Communists are creating monopolies for big pharma

no, that's definitely capitalism, you fucking tool

>>508717800
>government bureaucrats are capitalism
>TIL communism is actually capitalism

>>508717882
i probably make more money than you.

>>508717923
yes, that's called liberal economics, it's been around for centuries

>>508714936
They do. They play both sides and scavenge on the aftermath like cockroaches.

Communists are great at killing Jews. They get to do it, and nobody calls them a NAZEE

>>508718014
Marx cleverly hid his anti-Semitism by only writing about economics.

>>508717614
to say china is not communist is an objective statement, not an opinion.
>>508717653
so state capitalism?

>>508717280
China executes financial criminals.

>>508717958
>wannabe neocommie bragging about money
sasuga
you will never be a woman however

>>508718080
Aim at the 1% and hear a Jew scream somewhere.

>>508718212
the labels and quibbling over definitions are unimportant: China now has the superior system, and it is thanks to the Revolution

>>508714187 (OP)
Thank god communism basically died off 4 decades a go

>>508718343
Cool, now show median salary in China/Canada

>>508718343
>The Revolution

Mao chased many of the bad spirits out of China.

The parasites need to be removed from their hosts.

>>508714187 (OP)
No, im a Socialist now. Go be a cuck for BlackRock on r*ddit with the rest of the lolberts.

Sage.

>>508714187 (OP)
nice try jew

>>508717958
I probably make more money that you as well.

>>508715894
A tiny minority of murderous sociopaths who want to slaughter billions of "useless eaters" so they can have their fucked up techno-fascist nightmare world are more wealthy than ever before thanks to capitalism, is I think what you meant to say
but hey by all means enjoy living out whatever remaining time they allow you in the yarvin "totally not genocide" pods

>>508718343
no, labels and "quibbling over definitions" is in fact quite important. this entire discussion between us has been about whether communism (in the marxist sense) can ever exist in actuality and whether china can be classified as an example of this.

our discussion has NOT been "china vs the west", although you have attempted to frame it as this, this is only due to your own inability to understand the nature of the discussion itself.

>>508714609
Only the niggers are. Whites are still in charge

>>508718656
China's better. You want to get bogged down in the same old arguments to distract from that truth. But I am much smarter than that.

>>508718343
>superior system
>kidnaps and eats dogs from neighbors
>economy in shambles
>tofu dregs crumbling
>weekly arsons, almost daily actually
>mass stabbings, mass car murders usually targeting elementary school children
>can't win wars in the last 200 years
>can't take Taiwan in the last 70 years
>belt and road project crumbling
>Xi Jinping under house arrest of his own cabinet
>all-time high unemployment

>>508718610
Here I thought the tripfag was the worst schizo but holy shit you definitely take the cake. What the ever loving fuck are you going on about?

>24 post by this is
>In 45 minutes
Thank God he's dumb enough to tripfag

>>508718656
Ideologies can evolve, of course Marx view of communism wouldn't fit perfectly into a 21st century context

>>508714187 (OP)
At the same time, OP is a cuckold for wanting the stock market to exist at any cost while being a middle american poor person.

>>508714187 (OP)

>>508718572
i doubt it. i'm a CPA owner of a tax firm.

>>508714187 (OP)
communism is the inevitable future

>>508718749
Tofu dregs, gutter oil, cancer capital of the world, faulty military weapons. The only other nation China beats is India, and that's a very low bar and might change soon.

All fucking subhumans must die...no exceptions...

>>508718878
OP is not poor. He's rich.

>>508718842
pretty easy to research all this, they're not subtle about it
it's the future you were unwittingly duped into voting for
enjoy

>>508718749
you are fighting an imaginary friend. nowhere did i say "china bad", i merely stated that china is not communist and thus cannot be used as an example of a communist society.

you are essentially advocating for state capitalism while strawmanning my position as being a matter of being anti-china. you seem uneducated on the matter and thus wish to segregate any and all discussion to all you know and care about, which is "china vs the west". i am not playing your game.

>>508718878
Someone under the poverty line in America makes more than the median individual in China

>>508718996
China is governed by the Chinese Communist Party.

>>508718919
Low bar. I'm a land tycoon. You probably make less than what I earn in a 1 hectare in the commercial district.

>>508719079
inane LARP.

>>508714187 (OP)
>The only good one is a dead one

>>508719149
Cope, wageslave white cuck. I have a CPA college friend and I'm his client. The idea of billionaires must be foreign to lowly born people like you but there are dozens like me around this region.

>>508718842
it's a left wing conspiracy theory i've seen making rounds lately. new-leftism is becoming culturally irrelevant and thus is entering its schizo reactionary phase, much like evangelical conservatism did in the 90s and 2000s.

essentially the premise is that curtis yarvin, a somewhat fringe right-wing substack writer, is involved in a conspiracy with major tech companies to create a feudalist system where we are enslaved by tech oligarchs. this is usually then red-yarned to fascism through the italian futurist movement and its influence on the italian fascists.

>>508715802
>die you fucking kike. turns out marxists are the anti-kikes
are you retarded, or a jew? marx was a jew and he was obviously defending jews. this is the AI summary of your little screenshot:
>""On the Jewish Question" is an essay by Karl Marx, written in 1843, where he critiques the views of Bruno Bauer regarding Jewish emancipation and the relationship between religion and the state. Marx argues that true political emancipation requires the abolition of religious identity, suggesting that both Jews and Christians must transcend their religious affiliations to achieve genuine freedom."

>>508719343
that's nice, but don't fuck up my doordash delivery again or i'm reporting you.

>>508718996
I thought only leftists get to say
>that's nor REAL communism

>>508719070
"communism is when the party has 'communist' in it's name"
-carl marcks

>>508719497
>what is the Dictatorship of the Proletariat

you should read up on Maoism

>>508714187 (OP)
fguck off white cuckold
fucking west scum
Z

>>508719390
>this is the AI summary
opinion discarded

>>508719463
leftists are more likely to because, often being communists or in frequent correspondents with communists, often actually understand the definition of communism. much like most leftists have a tenuous understanding of fascism, many rightists have a tenuous understanding of communism.

the systems of the many "communist" states can usually be identified as marxist-leninism, various forms of socialism and of course in the case of china state capitalism.

>>508717662
Selectively calling painful points in your Capitalist country "Communist" is cute. How the fuck is allowing private people to own copyright to benefit themselves Communist? Are you gonna say it's Communist for factory owners to own factories too because it hurts the competition from the workers?

Universal healthcare doesn't ignore scarcity at all, it just lowers the bar. USA already pays the most for their healthcare per GDP in the world so if anything it'd probably be cheaper. But hey, it's possible you'd see some wait times and obviously maybe the job market could get hit when healthcare privileges is less of a thing people need to hold on to.

>>508719550
the dictatorship of the proletariat is not communism in marxist theory. communism is the condition after the whithering away of the state.

>>508714187 (OP)
Nigger

>>508719390
>>508719660
Also an excerpt from "on the jewish question":
"What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.…. Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man – and turns them into commodities…. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange…. The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general.”

>>508717040
>Communism is a euphemism for Judaism. So is atheism and feminism.
my brother in christ jesus was the original socialist.

>>508714187 (OP)
unfathomably based

>>508714187 (OP)
kill all kikes

>>508720068
>Jesus was *word invented 2000 years later by jews*

Bump

>>508719691
Copyright is enforcing a monopoly via government which is inherently illiberal.

As for the healthcare thing: healthcare is a product, which has to obey supply and demand.
1. When supply is artificially limited (via e.g. a maximum number of new doctors per year, certificates of need, and regulations on healthcare materiel) and demand is static, price goes up.
2. When demand increases due to quality of care (even Castro came to these USA to receive care) price goes up
3. When you as a producer are legally required to give your product for free if the customer can't pay (as is the case with healthcare) then the price to those that can pay is increased to compensate.

This doesn't even cover other things, like insurance companies pressuring hospitals to increase the sticker price so it looks like the insurance gives a bigger discount or the fact that Medicare/Medicaid are already massive expenditures ($1 trillion for 20% of Americans in 2023)

>>508714187 (OP)
it's okay to be gay AND kill commies, you guys need to step up!

>>508722140
I actually just looked it up, about the same number of Americans are on socialized healthcare as the population in the UK (69 million) but expenditure is 5x in the USA (200 vs 1,000 billion). There were 16 million veterans with VA health expenditure of $125 billion (though most veterans prefer private insurance, for sake of argument assume they all use tricare).

That means Medicare spends $14,000/person/year on universal healthcare, VA spends $8,000/person/year, and NHS $3,000 (though based on usage statistics they claim $11,000 per patient).

Healthcare expenditure in these USA (including Medicare and tricare) was $4.5 trillion, or 13.8k per person, in 2022. That means that compared to Medicare and NHS, private healthcare is not actually that much more expensive despite the massive improvement in service. So even with the identified inefficiencies I mentioned in the other post, it's still competitive with the rest of the world.

>>508716379
I always see you over in /x/ - never figured you were this based

>>508716379
The same retard tripfag commie spouting Marxist exploitation bullshit based on even more bullshit, such as the labor theory of value. You are about as retarded as the other socialist that tried to conflate economic rent seeking with requesting rent as payment for the usufruct of a property you own.

>>508717923
The principle of communism isn't government bureaucracy. It's public ownership of the means of production and dictatorship of the proletariat. Meaning that whatever government there ostensibly works in service of the working class.
A capitalist society is one owned by the wealthy classes. A state that works in service of the upper class which claims primary ownership of the means of production is, in fact, capitalist.
It's not difficult, and no one says "communist" governments have done it correctly. It's just a question of whose interests the power of the state are directed in favor of.
And the public control part is key. Any state claiming to be communist but not working in service of the working class is communist in name only. That's not No Scotsman - that's literally like saying you can be a Christian without believing in Jesus Christ.

>>508723844
So capitalism has never been tried because there has always been some form of taxation or restriction on private property rights. Got it, retard.

>>508724814
All of which is directly encouraged by the system in capitalism, minimizing overhead and maximizing cost. Unfortunately, the trip fag has cooked the entire thread.

>>508725046
Wrong.
It was never capitalist because of predatory institutions such as the state which inherently violate private property rights through taxation, monopolization of governance services, and imposition of legal tender.
You don't get to say "it was not real communism reeee" and at the same time pretend we have "real capitalism"

>>508725223
This. Also communism was made by, and is ran by jews.

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