Thread 508722731

If you love art and doing it, machines will not take that from you just because they generalize patterns.

>>508722731 (OP)
Because no board is as easily baited as /pol/.

>>508722731 (OP)
Because you make fake drama for people to be angry about meanwhile we could all be onto living and have a majority White country by now

leftists are right on ai "art"
>yes let's save western civilization by letting ai take over all types of human expressions
>all great works of arts my ancestors created are worthless
AIfags deserve get the rope

>>508722731 (OP)
it takes 5s to make and reminds them that all they managed in 10~ years is to copycat this

>>508723064
It’s a moot point because vast majority of artists are financially independent and don’t worry about making money or having a job anyway. They just want to screech over something timely and blm isn’t hip.
>t art prof

every single AI hater is retarded, regardless of why
it's probably the best retard-metric we've ever had

>>508722731 (OP)
Trannyhumanists deserve the rope, simple as.

>>508722731 (OP)
nigga everyone hates AI
slop is everywherewthtg

>>508722731 (OP)
>BRO READ THE ROOM

daily reminder that liberals are moral relativists.

>>508723307
>t. Sreekanth Kumbha

>>508723476
>no argument
thanks for proving my point

>AI art
Show me something beautiful you've created with it.

>>508723574
Then take this argument, nigger.

>>508723290
>>t art prof
sure thing bud
>>508723333
i'm convinced most pro-ai posters are either shills/bots or coomers

>>508722731 (OP)
Because many are unemployed and call themselves artists and get a bit of income from it. If AI takes it away they have nothing

>>508723476

Lol

>>508723656
>uncontrollable seething
>still no argument

>>508723064
The left is retarded on AI. They were giggling like schoolgirls at the thought of blue collar people being out of a job over AI robots and self driving cars, but now that it's their ass on the line AI is a problem? They can get fucked.

>>508722731 (OP)
Because it reminds them that most humans are lowly, materially-oriented, and amused by simple things, which is something they don't want to believe. They want to believe all humans have souls and can "appreciate" deeper meaning. However, this is simply not true.
AI is merely a technological innovation that can be used to increase efficiency. It is neither evil nor good. It is currently being used to maximize the production of "slop" content, even though most of humanity craved this form of content far before the advent of AI, as well.
Again, leftists can't accept that reality does not reflect their worldview. Any time they see "AI slop" getting far more views or attention than wholesome human arterinos with intention, they become enraged, as it breaks this view that most of humanity cannot and will ever not surpass basic material understand (which is also why they hate capitalism working, too.)

>>508723922
>They were giggling like schoolgirls at the thought of blue collar people being out of a job over AI robots and self driving cars
aifags likes to claim this but i mever saw anyone except aifags giggle at that tought, maybe some centrist liberals.
i have a hard time believing many leftist would want to cause widespread unemployment among blue collar workers

>>508722731 (OP)
I hate AI art and I'm over here cooking SD slop all day and night. I think there's 3 kinds of people that hate AI art: unremarkable artists, people that worry creativity will go unrewarded, and people that have made so much AI slop that they know which checkpoints and LORAs the Indians that call themselves "AI artists" use

>>508723922
im still giggling on the fact that codemokeys lost jobs to thing that codemonkeys made
but it doesnt make AI good
everything is slop everywhere is slop and funnily quality is going down as predicted.
There wasnt failsafe to stop AI generated crap going back to datacenters.

>>508722731 (OP)
This perturbs me. These people like to think of themselves as smart, and educated, and yet their entire identity is around hating "nazis". And in this case, they refer to people as nazis for having correctly pointed out the evil's of israel they're now waking up to.

And yet still, they decry the zionists while also hating the people who call out the zionists.

>>508722731 (OP)
Liberals don't care about art. If they did, they would be interested in fine arts, which have embraced AI without much friction, as long as artists are doing something interesting with it. What liberals care about are the cultural industries, because they are a tool to push their politics. That's the gist of all of it. Anyone arguing that the slop produced by the cultural industries is in any way soulful and must be gatekept is obviously being disingenuous. Don't even waste your time arguing with such people.

>>508722731 (OP)
You will consume the Spic Fuentes nigger rapper AI politics slop.

>>508723891
Since you're clearly a retarded nigger, I've made it easier for you to read.

>>508722731 (OP)
Leftists hate AI art because AI challenges them both economically and ideologically. AI allows people who would have never been allowed to create art for ideological and racial reasons to make anything to their hearts content without having to pay or negotiate with a faggot in sag aftra first. By breaking down the gatekeeping to art leftists no longer have the ability to maintain their stranglehood over culture pushing slop woke film after slop woke film because you can get your art anywhere else for cheap, this is the same reason globalist faggots hate anime and the east Asian arts as well. They want it so only the left can control art because art is culture and influence and when only the left has control over art they can tell you Jesus was actually a Nigger, that Islam is pro woman, that superman was always a chang, that all your white heroes were always shit eating jeets and that its natural for a woman to be 700 pounds and covered in 10,000 tattoos.
>But its destroying art
The art being "Destroyed" was all degenerate porn, freelancing mentally ill weirdos, and woke garbage to begin with, good riddance I say!
>Its destroying the environment
Meanwhile running Photoshop for hours and hours or rendering software for days on end is actually 10x the carbon output of AI GPUs
>Its ugly
Then you shouldn't feel threatened by it fucking nigger!
>It's gonna cost people their jobs
Weak people who didn't deserve life in a modern country to begin with, alot of whom are niggers, changs and troons
>It steals from artists
A judge just ruled that Anthropic is actually well within copyright law to use your degenerate subhuman "Art" for training so long as they don't pirate it
>Just pick up a pencil
Nope get back to drawing faggot so I can use your shitty art to train my AI on removing tattoos from whore women. I can do it legally now
>AI leads to abuse of woman
Notice that its only fat people, tattoo'd whores and troons who think this?

>>508723476
KEK i never thought of this but it makes perfect sense
low IQ monkeys and their crutch

>>508722731 (OP)
Using howls moving castle anime is really disrespectable.

>>508723656
Chang can't read a graph. European countries are not more nervous

>>508722731 (OP)
Because they value hard work and beauty.
But more seriously, they are just pissed that one no longer needs their mediation to produce art.

>>508723656
Once everyone settles down the west will warm up to AI. I think we're in a disillusionment phase where we're realizing the AI companies greatly oversold the use cases. If it's used intentionally it can be very good, but you have to learn how to train your own models for specific purposes.

>>508724412
do you see what you posted you retaded nigger while you talk about degeneracy
>muh swastika im based
no you are not kid

>>508724343
since you clearly have a 90IQ and think of yourself as a genius, that is not an argument, at all
but please, keep trying

>>508723922
I'm not even an artist, but I'd rather AI be used for boring, repetitive shit like driving and assembly line stuff, than have AI take over art and music, the point of which is for humans to express themselves, enjoy themselves, and connect with each other. The only reason anybody does any of that blue collar stuff is for the paycheck. Nobody does it as a form of expression, unless it's certain things like carpentry, glass blowing and blacksmithing where people are able to channel their creativity and vision into it. Humans have done art for thousands of years as a way to have fun and relate with one another. I'd rather see machines take over the work that I do, which nobody would go out of their way to do if they weren't being paid for it. In fact, pretty much everyone would rather sit on a couch and do nothing than to do my job. That's why nobody will cry when my job gets automated. Even I won't be that upset by it.

>>508723922
>They were giggling like schoolgirls at the thought of blue collar people being out of a job over AI robots
This is some serious fucking headcanon bro.
Most on the left want increased workers' rights and better protection for workers' jobs. It's the right that wants to promote increased profits in any way possible for shareholders, which almost always comes at either the workers' or consumers' (who tend to be working class) expense.

>>508724533
>Fat troon detected

>>508724649

Remember the phrase "learn to code"? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

>>508724738
go fuck yourself pajeet

>>508724738
KYS chink lover

>>508722731 (OP)
I make music and videogames and graphic design long before AI, AI just helps me workout my ideas faster

>>508722731 (OP)
>I hate zionists
No, you don't understand, we hate all jews. You know, the ones that act like a 5th column everywhere they go.

>>508724783
wasn't it like one article by centre left corpo-shill "journalist"?

>>508724783
not aged that well

>>508722731 (OP)
Faggot troon has no self awareness. What noone likes is fags who sport anime profile pics. Everybody loves kanye and everybody is using ai every fucking day

>>508724412
Art that has no message, no skill and no audience is not art and will never be art. You and AI are both literal trannies, pretending to be something that you are clearly not (an artist and a human being, respectively).

>>508725217
>t. untalented "artist" BTFO by AI
many such cases, kek

AI is nothing but a venture capital scam. It'll grow and be able to do more complex things, forever, it'll never stagnate we swear, please give us 80 billion more dollars.

>>508724975
that first bunch of pajeets shitting up everything was nice and novel
and these were nice
but slop today is just fucking tiresome

>>508724437
>more nervous
That's what happens when you have a larger amygdala (i.e. you're white). You can't fear the future if you cannot even conceptualize it.

CGI are not art. Go to a museum. Art is physical, by mammals for mammals. What do people not understand, this stuff is pure headcanon.
>>508724221
There's no such thing as AI art. You'd get mocked and ridiculed for this viewpoint
by any normal person irl.
>>508724412
Everyone can create art and music freely, without tools, at no cost. It's this way from birth. Your argument is one of dumbest imaginable. CGI do not pass. No one considers any of this art offline. You're an Illiterate unhinged weirdo.

>>508725217
Like all AI art, it looks like every single other image generated using the same model and completely lacks individuality and personality. When you see pic related, you can see "oh that's Jhonen Vasquez's artstyle"... you never see AI-generated images that make you think "oh, this must have been prompted by [insert name here] because only they can produce outputs like this". At best you can recognize what model or LoRA was used to produce the image. But NEVER the individual prompter

>>508725337
I've never been a professional artist, I just enjoy art and am willing to pay for it. But please, go ahead and tell me how much money you've spent on AI-generated books, images, songs, movies and games in the past couple years.

>>508725618
People unironically used to say the same about photography back in the day. Now, to be clear, most "AI art" is awfully kitsch and derivative indeed, but as a tool is perfectly fine and there are people doing interesting things with it, people with certainly a lot more artistic merit than a cartoonist whose main call to fame was working for Nickelodeon, for fuck's sake.

>every single AI company is run by jews

ProAI threads are kikery /pol/

>>508725927
Name an example of people doing more interesting stuff creatively with AI, then. Literally everything I've seen from it so far has been uninteresting slop.

WTF ? I love AI now !

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=329TmupdFnY

>>508725993
Well it's interesting enough to win art contests wwwwwwwww.

>>508722731 (OP)
This kinda pushes me to think right-wingers are the actual low empathy bugmen

>>508723064
>>508723313
>>508723333
All of you are confirmed pedo-it user

>>508725927
How the fuck is it same you are full of shit
You literally had to go and take phoo of existing thing.
Now you mash word get something you never wanted in the first place but it looks good enough
>yes this is great.
Even fucking ghibli AI is just using hardcore version of 30 year old photoshop systems because average person is dumbed down to a point he cant even install photoshop alone.

>>508726112
Be real, neither you nor anyone else thought that piece was interesting enough to save or remember the name of. Who's making stuff that's more interesting than a cartoon which was watched by and inspired millions of people? Who goes out of their way to pay for AI art the way they do for even the shittiest nickelodeon cartoons. Nobody.

>>508724100
>>508724649
>immediately simps for leftists
Didn't whatever discord you came from instruct you on not blowing your cover, xisters?

>>508722731 (OP)
>Why leftists hate
Why am I the only one who notices that OP is an ESL with an American proxy?

>>508726194
hi kike worshiper
>>508725957

>>508726116
>actual low empathy bugmen
You can go back to your shitty orange robot shithole anytime
All you gay retards have it all banned over there

>>508722731 (OP)
Because their dysgenic introvert trannies and foids flood the cartoon and drawing industry to spread their leftist ideology.

>>508726087
Skip to 2:55 for the actual slop.

>>508726255
Here's what I know, I've been tracking art for well over a decade, and around the time Trump took office actual art died and it became emotional trigger statements rather than deep heartfelt meaning. I remember those artists, not the modern ones.

>>508725380
well, yeah, some media is good... other media is bad, that's kind of how it goes
>>508725822
your point is?

>>508725957
>>508726278
>My GPU is apparently Jewish
>Me when I am a Reddit lefty going to /pol/ and throwing words like kike and jew around randomly to fit in

>>508723604
Still waiting.

>>508726087
the you hear about The Onion zoomer?

AI art is to twitter leftists like automation and outsourcing was to small town working classers.

>>508726504
nigger you cant even install pytorch and you are running that shit locally
gtfo handicaped larper

>>508726590
Except working class people actually count as human. Twitter Leftists don't deserve to even breathe the same air as me especially "artists"
>>508726623
Reddit troon is seething so hard over this thread
Nobody is going to stop using AI because you cry like a bitch about it, the best you can do is fuck off back to your troon hole on Reddit and hope that some retarded fatass mod is up at 3:30 in the morning to stop people who deserve oxygen from posting AI

>>508723476
In order for this equation to actually be true AI would have to be a constant equal to 0.

This was really well thought out. Glad to see our future is in such good hands.

>>508726924
pay subscription to kikes seething faggot

>>508727070
>I have no argument
>I said "kike" therefore I am right
>13 pbtid
>I'm not seething
>STOP USING AI RIGHT NOW
>SAR STOP LAUGHING
>SARRR
>SAAAAAARRRRRR

>>508727280
pajeet seethe "locally"

>>508726924
You don't have to stop using AI but other people also don't have to pretend to like it or stop calling it slop when they see it. I just think it's funny that AI gives people like you the ability to supposedly realize any artistic vision, and all you make with it is essentially the same image over and over again... just pic after pic of your softcore porn waifu staring at you, to go in your fap folder and never see the light of day again... maybe most people just don't have much creativity to begin with and can't make anything interesting even with all the tools at their disposal

>>508722731 (OP)
I'm hard right and I hate AI art and movies because the shit is flooding the internet and it's overwhelming and garbage. As though it wasn't bad enough when it was made by humans, now we get 1000x more by the models trained on that same garbage, and it's just making things more and more unbearable. That picture posted here of that hairy dude asshole comes to mind. If someone actually had to draw that shit, it wouldn't exist.
It's annoying.

Think of it like /gif/. You can't use /gif/ at all because of the amount of goddamn interracial shit posted there. It's insane and has made that board a complete cesspit. It's horrifying. And now it's going to get a million times worse. The AI interracial shit is going to get spammed like crazy any place it be. Because it can be cranked out by the truckload without the need to actually make it by drawing it or using a camera.

>>508727465
Why you browsing/gif/ in the first place

>>508726461
>your point is?
AI cannot create art. The best it can do is reproduce something that had already been produced by someone else while following imposed guidelines. But in a world where novelty, skill and human connection are key, nobody is willing to pay for that. This means that AI is relegated to the sole purpose of being a crutch for jeets, tyrants and other subhumans.

>>508727438
The only argument you retards have is just calling everything "Slop"
Shit loses meaning after you say it to the 70 thousandth person who didn't care to begin with
Hell you wrote an entire paragraph that can be summed up as
>I said "Slop" therefore I am right

>>508727750
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_problems_in_mathematics

This is what kills AI bubble
The second human solves any of these and post it online AI will be able to solve that one.

leftists are probably against AI as per typical trade union workers rights and ironically "they taking our jobs"

>>508727465
>People post porn and gross shit
>Not on my 4chwanz
>Boo hoo hoo
What the hell are you even doing here? If you want a clean, safe internet where nobody ever posts that scarwy porn, slurs, AI or Nazi shit Reddit is waiting for you faggots over there
We don't want you retards shilling all over /pol/ all day to begin with anyway

>>508727709
I never did. But others do, and forcing them to see garbage is fucking bullshit. They're using AI to make IR 2D too with all those faggot tattoos and shit, and that I do see, and I hate it. There's no defense for this level of faggotry. We never needed the technology and like the other guy itt said, all people make with the technology is the same boring gross ugly bullshit. It's complete garbage. I'm sure Jensen's happy though.
You wanna know why you can't afford a decent GPU anymore? Coomers. They've replaced the miners.

>>508727799
Nigger, you're literally bragging about how AI gives you the ability to pull anything from your imagination and make it real, and the most interesting example you have of that is 100 identical pics of some woman staring at you. All it shows is that people with actual creativity have nothing to worry about from AI. People with no creativity will spin their wheels generating the same slop over and over again

>>508723064
>>all great works of arts my ancestors created are worthless
doesn't the heaps of slop actually make proper art more valuable by default?

>>508728408
>Literally
>Using reddit language
>People with no creativity will spin their wheels generating the same slop over and over again
Guess I will just keep posting AI porn and there is nothing you anti AI retards can do about it

>>508723064
>leftists are right on ai "art"
they aren't
the fact that they are focusing on copyright and ai art in general tell me they are brain broken
It's a battle leftists cannot and will not win. Just as the average person had no ability to stop the Manhattan project.
Y'all get too distracted by memes. All white collar jobs will be done, and the blue collar ones are not far behind.

>>508728119
I've been using 4chan since 2004.
Memes back in the days were 50/50 clever/shit. Now it's 95% shit, and it's getting worse because it's now just AI copying AI copying retarded shit. No thought or cleverness at all, just mountains of trash. And the porn is even worse. IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT. You can immediately tell some talentless fuck cranked out a bunch of CGI garbage and tried to pic the one that looked the least like shit. But it still looks like shit. Your AI images suck.

>>508722731 (OP)
Honestly? There's so much redundant, menial, and laborious tasks in media, such as in gaming, animation or image editing, that I don't understand why people are against AI taking over these boring, repetitive tasks. Do animators really complain about the fact that AI is going to do tweening and tweaking for them? I remember doing that stuff in high school and wish there was a program that did those boring tasks for me because there things don't stimulate the mind or brings out creativity, it's just repetitive work.

Same deal with image editing. I fucking hated removing the background for images and then saving them in PNG, just so the image can match the background of whatever was behind it. That took hours to do for me. AI does that in seconds. It's a game changer and just makes things easier for animators, developers and editors for the more important aspects.

People should embrace AI. It's not going away.

>>508728743
blue collars are not safe even now and you can ask around its already started even here.
when white collar job market is gone, they dont just go to corner and die, they see what they can do and they come to do it for fraction of the price, way better than being unemployed.
>they suck and do shitty job
they will learn but the guy who pays is getting what he paid for

>>508728769
>Your AI images suck.
Some of them are not even AI
Not that you retards can even tell

>>508722731 (OP)
AI art is great because it puts all the pretentious faggot "artists" in their place.

The problem is nobody bothers to understand how AI works and how training it on data is not copyright infringement. Copyright infringement is stealing someone elses idea and claiming it as your own, you making an original character using AI is not copyright infringement.

>>508723064
this
ai is literally the opposite of conservative values
>no respect for traditions
>anti-discipline
>hatred for the human spirit
bad art existing does not give ai a pass, good artists also hate ai

>>508722731 (OP)
Leftists have been irrelevant for the past two years.

>>508722731 (OP)
>Why leftists hate AI art?
The same reason women hate realistic sex dolls
>>508728908
>when white collar job market is gone, they dont just go to corner and die, they see what they can do and they come to do it for fraction of the price, way better than being unemployed.
nah I know white collar workers and they would literally kill themself before becoming a plumber or car mechanic or landscaper. They became white collar because blue collar is beneath them, suicide is literally more honorable in their opinion

>>508728743
the right is pro-copyright though
fuck people trying to leach

>>508728769
the stupidass banal zoomer cancer now infesting /pol/ is far worse than that of 2007/8

no amount of chemo will ever fix this awful faggotry, on god fr. bruh.

>>508728942
>Some of them are not even AI
only
>>508728119
>>508726306
>>508726194
aren't ai, still shit thought

>>508729404
that's coping mechanism and that's fine
but they will go and get blue collar job in the end.
>>508729139
problems is its so fucking narrow, its women being whores and total random shit
promt me this
see the problem

>>508729360
>hatred for the human spirit

Isn't hating AI more hatred for the human spirit? You're taking an innovative product produced by mans mind and smearing it by saying it's not real, when all it does is simplify the filtering and acceptance process of creating art.

imagine thinking faceless corporations should have wholesale to use all scraped data freely
if they're taking images and videos so carelessly imagine what they're doing to your posts, personal information, and other data

>>508723064
>durr the planet is saved because someone put lines on paper

This is the same argument as a grocery store clerk being entitled to make as much as a CEO.

>>508729657
>Oh no now people will make their porn instead of paying me $600 for it

>>508729689
>imagine what they're doing to your posts, personal information, and other data
Half the time leaking it on darkweb

>>508729752
your clearly a bot or a jeet because your conclusion makes zero sense

>>508729688
>Isn't hating AI more hatred for the human spirit?
Do you think OpenAI, Grok, Google, Deepseek, etc are the human spirit?

>>508723064
>>508729360
Glad I'm not the only one who gets this. Regardless of how people feel about individual artists and their art, the fundamental idea of a future of AI generated infinite consoomer slop with no human thought, skill or emotion put into it is fucking horrifying.

>>508729688
ai shills hate human made contact
many of them don't like ai because its novel value, they like it in spite of human made contact
they hate humans so much they are willing to ignore all the good artists that exist because either they hate humans so much or they're that big of shills
no ai shill i've ever talked to can even mention art they like even as children

>>508729787
this redard is still larping here
you are net negative with subs you dumb retard thats why you spam your shit here
>paying for AI porn when hundreds of thousand of terrabytes of real porn is available for free
sure son told to you gtfo already

>>508729878
Or you are too retarded to read English

>>508722731 (OP)
Fucking distractor, it's the leftists that love and pushed ai. Fucking bastard.

>>508729688
The AI tools and the people who made them are brilliant technological marvels. It's very impressive that people were able to create computer algorithms that generate entire images, articles and videos in a coherent way. Obviously, the people building this stuff are geniuses.
Does that transfer to everybody who uses these products, though? Not really. People can use AI however they want. Some of those uses are quite good. Some use cases just enable shitty people to be shittier (e.g. it will enable more spying, disinformation, scams, etc.) - and some use cases, like AI "art", are just boring noise that are flooding out and making it harder to find actually good content. There's nothing human about the tool itself.

>>508730072
its the jews man how can you do AI as left vs right when all involved in it are jews

>>508729696
that's a V6 24-valve engine on a timing chain

>>508727750
sorry, got busy with a phonecall, you still here?

>>508723307
5% of the workforce will be unemployed within the next 5 years (an ai told me this btw), why wouldn't they hate it, are they shareholders or something?

>If you love art and doing it, machines will not take that from you
No, they're just going to constantly flood every platform and medium I use with this shit and render them fucking unusable, while also accelerating the cognitive decline of all of the shitskins and geriatrics who managed to survive into adulthood without any critical thinking skills

>>508729139
good artists hate ai too

>>508729787
Why would you pay someone for porn in the first place? Just save the works the artists produce for free, or in the case of photos, go to Imagefap. Paying for porn? I've never paid for porn in my life and I've been on the net since 1997/age 12. I used to browse Japanese internet, artists official webpages, using the adress dispay bar at the bottom of the browser to translate from moonrunes to click on the right pages.
Why even bother making AI porn when you can zap out thousands of pix from Gelbooru/Paheal/Exhentai/etc using a downloader? Why even waste time and energy? Why pay $2000 for a GPU to make porn? Just get the free shit, there's like billions of pics to choose from. It doesn't even make sense from a logical POV. I couldn't imagine wasting time like that.

>>508724285
your body, his choice

AI art sucks because the output is way too variable to be controlled and consistent atm. All the matters for art is creativity and vision, when the tech and interfaces are good enough these copes won’t matter

>>508730177
Any AI you want,. promt me parts

There is no AI art without human art.

You are just a socialist. You think someone having talent and drive is "unfair" so you rely on Sam Altman to level the playing field.

>>508722731 (OP)
It literally says
>comm
at the end of this retards name, which probably continues as follows:
>commissions open
which means he's trying to get paid.
>>508723064
AI is not holding you down and breaks your hands if you try to paint yourself.

>>508729900
Yes, because these products are produced by brilliant men. Do you think allowing big media companies to continue remaking the same movie over and over again because no one can afford the millions of dollar price tags to generate their own IP is better for the human spirit? If you wanna go that route, companies are happy to release movies that came out 40 years ago and make 200M each time, meanwhile poorfags will never get the shot.

>>508729957
This is just a nonsense post backed by nothing. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can post nonsense opinions that people who work on this art human or hate human touch.

>>508730131
It will allow more spying and disinformation, but it's not like it will accelerate what's already happening. These are more bueracratic issues than they are AI issues. People don't care that there's essentially a pseudo camera watching your every move in a city and even a neighborhood now, they care that the government gets to intervene in their lives through a lack of private property, can't look out for their own safety anyway, and if anything, AI also creates the tools to sanitize the government further away from people. The incredible advancements of AI are going to require an incredible amount of removal of the government in citizens lives to truly be effective to it's highest degree.

>>508722731 (OP)
Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind!
We need to destroy and outlaw these fucking AIs and execute all of the wowwie AI techbros who keep pushing this stuff thinking it is going to lead to trillions of dollars and a utopia for them to lord over. If we don't, eventually it is going to exterminate humanity.
BUTLERIAN JIHAD NOW!

>>508730715
>It will allow more spying and disinformation, but it's not like it will accelerate what's already happening.
It will. AI tools allow tyrants to make sense of the mountains of data they're collecting. No longer do you need humans to make sense of text or images. A computer can do all of that now. It used to just be that people would get flagged when they mentioned certain PRISM keywords and shit like that. Now AI can make sense of everything you do online. It makes the collected data useful. It connects the dots that were previously unconnected. AI can decipher everything you write, it can even tell when you're being sarcastic. It can make sense of the images you download and share. This tech is going to enable tyrants to create a control grid orders of magnitude worse than anything 20th century dystopian novels could have ever come up with

>>508730715
>because these products are produced by brilliant men
So were nukes, g-series nerve agents, and the covid vaccines. What's your point?
>Do you think allowing big media companies to continue remaking the same movie over and over again because no one can afford the millions of dollar price tags to generate their own IP is better for the human spirit?
Do you think these billion-dollar companies aren't going to start shoveling AI trash out by the truckload? There's an Rx drug ad on TV for this drug called Fanept or something. It uses an "anime-like" style that was absolutely ripped off from the Boondocks.
>If you wanna go that route, companies are happy to release movies that came out 40 years ago and make 200M each time
I wish they would. I'd love to see Terminator 2 or Demolition Man released in theaters again. Why do we even need new movies? Rerelease Akira or Jin-Roh in theaters.

>>508730715
>because no one can afford the millions of dollar price tags to generate their own IP
The fact you're thinking about it in terms of being an IP is the grimmest part of the whole argument desu

>>508722731 (OP)
>muh based nigger

>>508724412
>>Its ugly
>Then you shouldn't feel threatened by it fucking nigger!
The issue is that AI niggers post it everywhere, constantly. If they only posted decent looking shit I wouldn't have any complaints, but they almost exclusively spam ugly slop like OP's pic and your own posts (because they are too stupid to proompt well, which also explains why they like AI by the way).

>>508731137
The point is that it's a good technology, and denying any use of it is will do far greater harm to humanity than the other way around.

And yes, billion dollar companies will, but their slot machine turns from 300M for a rehash to 150M, you will begin slowly doing what happened to the music industry, which is finally putting the power in the hands of the people, instead of just letting the norm continue on.

And we don't need new anything then if that's the mentality. Might as well just curl over and die.

>>508731021
They already make sense of that data, AI will just speed it up more, The concern isn't what the AI does, it's always what the bureaucrats will be allowed to do in general. I stand by the opinion that no one actually cares about private interest doing these things (IE. Ring Door Bell Cameras). I'm eternally more concerned that the data doesn't matter because a politician will reach into your back pocket regardless of the tooling used to speed it up or not..

>>508731405
I'm thinking about them in terms of IP, cause who gives a shit about you using AI to do whatever the hell you want by yourself? If a tree falls in the woods, and no one hears it, does it make a sound? If you're not interested in showing it to other people, then nobody cares. I'm making an argument that you should be allowed to sell AI generated stuff as a product, and it should be judged on it's quality, not its generation method. If we're talking movies, we're talking IP, if we're talking art, we're talking art, it doesn't really matter in either case.

>>508731760
>The point is that it's a good technology, and denying any use of it is will do far greater harm to humanity than the other way around.
Even the people who run AI companies, like Sam Altman and Elon Musk, say that there's a significant chance that AI will destroy humanity in the future

>>508730283
>5%
actually, 25-50%
>why wouldn't they hate it
why would they?
just because they feel uneasy about losing the way they acquire their food/shelter tokens?

Really competition is the whole sink or swim with it right? Same with robotic labor which has been a thing for a long time, same with drones vs manned military vehicles and infantry. What works works. It's never been about ideals.

Myself I like it for depicting stuff from my stories that otherwise will cost me 50-100 dollars from a good artist. I think the filter here is mostly up to taste. Ugly and messy images is entirely on the human for not throwing it in the bin.

>>508731994
Elon is just making shit up, and Sam Altman wants the AI industry regulated as fast as possible to he can do the maximum extraction of wealth possible from the US Government and monopolize the industry. His product is good, but he plays the same bureacratic game that every center left lib fag plays, he knows there's more money on the table bullying the government and the retarded citizens that will allow him too if he makes up shit and spreads doom and gloom and only he has noble company portrayed as the only ones that can truly stop it.

>>508732181
>What works works. It's never been about ideals.
precisely

>>508731760
>The point is that it's a good technology
It's not a good technology. There's no need for it, it's improving anything, and the dangers of it are off the charts.
People thinking about some voice actor or porn artist getting put out of a job are missing the point. Artists whining about losing their source of income mean nothing to me. I was never going to pay them a dime anyway, I ain't paying for media, fuck that bullshit.

The problem is, because the technology takes the skill out of making things, it allows a lot more people to make slop. That means a lot more slop, it's opened up the floodgates to retards, scammers, governments, corporations, everyone to make tons and tons and an overwhelming amount of shit without working hard to do it. The scammers are gonna have a field day with this, because OF COURSE they will. People are going to be getting ripped off who aren't even on the internet. The news media will be able to craft absolutely convincing bullshit to drive politics exactly where they want it to go in a way they never had before. And real nasty motherfuckers are going to use this to frame people for serious crimes. No one's thinking about the real consequences of this bullshit nobody really asked for.

Bad people are absolutely going to go batshit with this technology. But hey, at least you can waste time making your own porn instead of just saving what's already been available for 30 years after spending $2K on a graphics card.

>>508730592
>commissions open
>which means he's trying to get paid.
lol this. These are the "artists" who would charge hundreds of dollars for a single drawing. AI made them unemployed overnight.

>>508732181
>Elon is just making shit up, and Sam Altman wants the AI industry regulated as fast as possible to he can do the maximum extraction of wealth possible from the US Government and monopolize the industry.
correct
>His product is good
was
OpenAI is walking corpse, they will either be absorbed or pivot to a different AI-based product, most likely retina-scanning and AI-based security protocols based on that
chatGPT is just a brand, nothing more

>>508724100
Nope
I was there and saw all the patronizing articles smugly declaring how these backwards ass wrench jockeys in the flyovers were going to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century with automaton and now that they are the ones getting automated, oh NOW automaton is Le Bad!
Yeah nope, you're not going to tell me what I did or didn't see. Get fucked, learn to code.

>>508732454
Some sites are already overrun with bots that are programmed to astroturf and shift users' opinions in a certain way. They used to have to pay jeets to shill, which created a natural limit to how much astroturfing they could get away with. Now that restriction is gone; they can push infinity bots into any discussion.
With all of these disturbing and negative use cases for AI as it is, you really have to wonder what it's doing that's so wonderful? I've heard of it potentially being used for folding proteins and some other medical applications which is cool. Has it solved any math problems or made new discoveries? Does it do anything but churn out mountains of mediocrity?

>>508723064
Let me guess.. You are an "artist"

>>508730715
>This is just a nonsense post backed by nothing. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can post nonsense opinions that people who work on this art human or hate human touch.
there are literally people in this thread saying they only like ai because it makes humans seeth

>>508732454
>takes the skill out of making things

It does not take the skill out of making things. This is the same thing as people who complained about Photography replacing artist, when all it did was allow people to save an image of a place in time in the real world without having to ask an artist to spend 500 hours painting the image of the real world, which is hardly an expression of art. If anything, the Camera freed the artist to pursue the metaphysicial recreation of the world through their lived experience, thus creating actual art, instead of what is comissioned and asked for by the lords and leaders.

As far as the hard work argument goes, this one doesn't make much sense. People work hard now to not work hard in the future, people used to pick potatoes in the US and sent their kids to schools so they didn't have to do that. Now they work as clerks in grocery stores and mexicans pick the potatoes. Life goes on, the quality of life goes up, human capital moves and shifts around to where it needs to, it's not so stagnant as people believe.

And likewise, AI being used to create news and media isn't changing anything that doesn't already exist, it only speeds it up. The real challenge that will exist is removing bureaucracy from your lives, stop letting voting be so consequential. The government should be a slow moving turtle for exactly these reasons, or should be extremely limited in capability in so far as only the department of justice and defense exist. The reason that AI being used as a means of pushing political agendas is a concern is not a concern of AI, but the government.

And for as many bad people that will go "batshit", there's just as many good people that will innovate with it. This is the same argument one could use against guns, they're really all not that fundamentally different.

Leftist claim art requires no craft, all art must do is provoke, trigger emotions, etc. Which AI art clearly does to these trigglypuffs.

>>508733082
Yes and those people should be ignored and forgotten about. Stop believing in losers and start believing in mankind.

And let me just get this out the way. I don't for a second think we can stop AI slop and shit. No way in hell is this going to stop. But all you motherfuckers enthralled by this new shiny toy are in for a nasty surprise, especially if you're EVER had a picture of you, or video, put on the internet. If you have a social media account tied to your real-life name/ID, you're well and truly fucked. In 5 years, you are going to hate this technology, I guarantee it.

You cannot think big enough to understand the danger we're in, but you know who DOES think big enough? The people making the AI models, the people high-up in government and media and corporations, and smart criminals. You thought the JIDF was bad before, just wait.

>>508733218
I am so looking forward to these modernists doubling back on how art suddenly has conventions, rules, and skills requires in order to be art
I don't even like AI art but at least I get to see these people get fucked

>>508731974
you can sell ai whatever
ai is a race to the bottom though
ai is spammed on any place that allows it. especially market places. thus ruining the space for people who are actual creators and people who don't want to see ai
tags only help slightly but its not like its hard for ai flooders to just lie about it

>>508728596
No? That's not even how supply and demand works.

People I see seething the loudest about AI art being soulless etc, are people who already made soulless slop in the first place.
New meme drops ? make a furry version of it and sell ych. OMG SO MUCH SOUL!
yeah fuck right off.

>>508733151
>It does not take the skill out of making things.
Bullshit. All you have to do it see how much slop and spam has exploded on the internet since RTX was first released. And it's growing exponentially.
If it wasn't removing skill, this wouldn't be happening.

>>508722731 (OP)
You’re a racial leftist
Your leader is a nigger and you’re a pro black nigger lover

You might be based on kikes but you’re an anti racist nigger loving faggot

>>508723656
wtf is japan doing all the way down there

>>508733511
Yes, and there's also art now that people consume that they can't even tell if it's AI or not. It doesn't matter if it's spammed or not, good art will rise to the top, as with all things that are good.

>>508733343
>those people don't count because i say they don't!
yeah you're not convincing me that a prompter should ever be more respected than Michelangelo

>>508733367
No i know
I just don't care anymore because the writings already been on the wall for far longer than AI slop has been around

>>508733623
finding good art was already looking through a needle in a haystack, especially on the "recently uploaded" tabs
how is it a good thing that its now infinitely harder

>>508733580
The skill is still there though, you can always pick up the brush yourself, have fun spending 3 years learning how to draw at 30 years old. It's always your choice if you want to do it or not, it doesn't change whether or not something is good or not. If AI can objectively create better than most artist, that should say more about the state of artist and great art, than it does about AI. Aesthetics > Skill. There are people who have painted for 10,000 hours and have ruined their whole life because they don't understand or implement the concepts of aesthetics, and become skillmaxxies that rots their brains.

>>508733367
Same desu. AI is going to run its course. But the people thinking we're heading for some kind of utopian singularity are out of their fucking minds with hopium. This technology will be used to dominate you, make you disposable and eventually eliminate you.

>>508733818
why should anyone care what a robot has to say

>>508733811
It's not infinitely harder, it's the same amount of hard as it's always been. People who make slop, will make slop, if you keep letting AI optimize and iterate, you will eventually reach a point where all the sudden the art is as good, if not better, and will only continue to get better. Remember, each day that passes is the worst that AI will ever be.

>>508722731 (OP)
Nobody wants to make AI art of ugly women, fat women or trannies?

>>508732181
I fail to see how this "works." It's nuat mindless entertainment for mindless people who cannot be bothered to develop their own creative faculties. It's for people who would want to live in the matrix.

>>508733918
If a robot assist a human in a creation of aesthetics that creates a metaphysical representation of the artist desires, it is then not what the robot says, but merely a tool for the humans expression.

>>508733922
>Remember, each day that passes is the worst that AI will ever be.
This isn't necessarily true, if all art becomes AI generated slop then they will run out of human art to train with and will end up feeding the model with other AI generated crap, leading to a decline in model quality. AI needs human artists in order to keep improving

>>508723693
thats because they are.

>>508733630
People don't know what they don't know, and now they're not going to know what they know. They're only going to know an empty bank account, or possibly a jail cell.

>>508723064
>5000 BC: “Painting on cave walls is sacred. Carving idols? That’s not real art.”
>500 BC: “Pigments from minerals? That’s cheating. Real artists use ash and blood.”
>30 BC: “Naturalism? You mean copying nature like a coward?”
>300 AD: “Frescoes in churches? That’s art for sheep.”
>900 AD: “Mixing egg yolk with pigment? You might as well worship Satan.”
>1200 AD: “Canvas? Sounds like something invented by a Venetian pervert.”
>1500 AD: “Oil painting isn’t real painting. It’s just hiding mistakes with layers.”
>1700 AD: “Neoclassicism? Pretending to be Greek is cringe.”
>1800 AD: “Impressionism is for people with cataracts. Monet is a fraud.”
>1900 AD: “Picasso just draws deformed people. My toddler could do that.”
>2000 AD: “AI can’t make real art.”

>>508722731 (OP)
I'll bite.
We are so completely deprived of meaning it's not even funny anymore. There is no communal anchor that would help us parse reality. Families are reduced to the barest minimum if at all, communities are basically gone - there is no shared truth, no shared meaning.
AI art is the obliteration of anything that's still left. It's the hyper-capitalist destruction of the human soul. Art derives meaning from skill, struggle and scarcity. That's gone. What remains is an empty assembly line of pixels.

And look, I don't hate AI art if used sparingly. For quick memes or a funny retort, sure. But beneath that is something incredibly insidious: The replacement not of human artists, but of meaning.

tl;dr:
Fast food is fine now and then, but be careful you don't get addicted to quick salts, sugars and fats, or homecooked food will be a thing of the past.

>>508733151
>It does not take the skill out of making things.
It absolutely does.
>This is the same thing as people who complained about Photography replacing artist
It's not. AI and photos are not in any way comparable. Photographs are not just a tool. They are a medium. AI is not a medium. It's just a tool that trains you to be a simple child asking for more stuff that gives you instant pleasure.

>>508734260
kek

>>508733922
it is certainly not the same amount as hard as its always been
you weren't browsing deviant art back in the day
deviant art went to shit for various reasons even before ai, and even before sjws took over the internet

but back then even find bad art was something fun. a horribly drawn sonic OC drawn by a 30 year old autist who draws like a 5 year old and isn't even allowed to leave the house is infinitely more interesting to look at than something made by ai.
Hell if the philosophic view point doesn't convince you then the nature of ai being spammable should make you understand why its valueless

your problem is you don't understand why people even like art, you just see it as a commodity

>>508730283
same reason we dont hate tractors for taking 99% of farming jobs

>>508734465
this doesn't just go for deviant art btw, it extends to all circles of the internet that deal with ai spam

>>508733218
Ergo, you are a leftist. Or more like a mindless troll with no real convictions.
>>508733446
And do you think that is bullshit? Do you think it's all just meaningless and the only thing that matters is getting your rocks off?

>>508733218
so ai is leftist by default?

>>508734081
Yes and no - unique inputs will still need to be created, but what are we really asking an AI to do that can't be theoretically trained into doing it? It can't create what doesn't exist, but again, it will always be up to the aesthetics, regardless of the aesthetic uniqueness. Likewise, AI is still just a tool at the end of the day, if the goal is to create a new unique aesthetic, then it will reward a special artist that actually is true to the name. Not some faggot at calarts making bubblegum world or whatever.

>>508734479
exactly

>>508724100
>brazen lying
Kill yourself

>>508734260
>all made by humans in analog world
you AI pushing retards are nigger tier cattle

>>508733623
Not at all. Popularity is not a measure of goodness.

>>508734465
>a horribly drawn sonic OC drawn by a 30 year old autist who draws like a 5 year old and isn't even allowed to leave the house is infinitely more interesting to look at than something made by ai
What a very specific and odd claim to make, xXSonicStrife99Xx.

>>508724412
How can you even say something like "not allowed to make art"? Are you even aware in what kind of golden age we live nowadays?

It's not the 15th century anymore, where you have to grind pigments by hand (good luck getting good purples and blues), make your brushes by hand - painstakingly scour what little artistic education you can get.
Nigger. Literally pirate Sai or Photoshop or whatever, google whatever gooner shit you are into and to draw. Never has it been any easier.

You beyond buck broken and defeated, I genuinely don't even know if you have a soul.

You will never be an artist. You have no skills, no soul, no meaning. You are a buckbroken trans-artist, twisted by jeet-code and instant gratification.

>>508722731 (OP)
To be fair a lot of it just noise. A lot of it is just simply isn't worth paying attention to and it takes up space, also what's up with everything looking so fucking yellow?

>>508734660
>tourists weren't there for "name + the hedgehog threads"

>>508734536
Did the hot 11°C weather fry your small brain lol. It's art according to lefties. I don't care what you call it if it serves my purposes.

>>508733922
There is no clear and direct "improving" in art. What do you even think that means? The ability to not draw more or less than five fingers? This wasn't even a problem for human artists. Everytime they did it, it was done deliberately as a stylistic choice.

>>508733818
I DON'T CARE ABOUT A FUCKING ARTIST OR DRAWING. Jesus H Christ if I want someone's art or some porn, I'll go to a gallery site and save the shit already made myself. Why in the name of fuck would I waste time making my own porn in any form when I can just get the near-unlimited amount of it already uploaded over the years? Who does that? Just go download what you want that's already there. Everything you want is already there. What kind of fucking idiot wastes time or money paying for art or generating their own? If you wanna make your own comics for some retarded reason(as though YOU have some unique concept), do it, but nobody cares and nobody wants to see some nobody's Gary Stu bullshit.
>I can make my own anime!
Why? There's plenty already made you haven't watched. Just pirate it and watch it. Why even waste your precious hours making your own anime? You're going to make your own anime then watch it? You're going to watch something you already made yourself? Who does that? You already know the plot and ending. And nobody wants to see your shit.

>>508725517
>You'd get mocked and ridiculed for this viewpoint by any normal person irl.
Not only is this completely, one hundred percent false, but it’s so pissy and whiny I laughed at you irl.

>>508734641
>every step forward with art was invented by humans to refine the process
>AI was not invented by humans and therefore doesn't count

>>508722731 (OP)
Everyone except poopskins and coomers hate AI. Which are you?
Wait let me guess, you're both!

>>508734057
People evidently do. There are people here who fill their drives with endless pictures of ugly indians covered in enough shit to make a scat fetishist blush. It's all just mindless, degemerate drones.

>>508722731 (OP)
Yeezus just rose again

>>508734732
>um ackchyually these new tools still count but that one doesn’t
Nice self defeating argument, dumbfuck idiot autist

>>508734805
>gets that mad because his palette swap Sonic with wolverine claws was impugned
AI killing your "art" is the single greatest thing to have come out of this.

>>508722731 (OP)
Who's Al?

>>508734914
the ais themselves were made by people and that is cool that humans were able to make that
but what ais make isn't cool

>>508723922
Kek
If you lads want unhinged AI crying, simply go on the disgusting tranny infested Doomworld forums and just search for it.
Those niggers go on insane rants.

>>508734914
this has to be some kind of AI brain rot
to what are you replying nigger?

>>508734465
Back then seeing bad art was fun for the same reason seeing bad AI is fun, it's just a different time with rose tinted glasses put on. Aesthetics will always reign supreme, regardless of how much "slop" is out there. Tools will exist to help this filtering process, things will get more intricate, it is the way the developed world moves.

>>508734329
It does not, the skill is still there. You can go paint if you want to, or you can cut 3 years of learning down and learn how to get intricate with wording, prompting, and seeds. The skill is just migrated, it's now different, you can manipulate it to the best of your capabilities. This is really a non argument, if you want things to be difficult, choose your own difficulty setting, don't force other people to play on hard mode if they don't want to.

>>508735012
crazy how you think you're twisting my words and that anyone is convinced

>>508734925
The problem I have with it is that it lies and are extremely biased. And if i can't trust it then the purpose of it loses its meaning

>>508735024
>pigment was invented by man and that's cool
>but the paintings created by pigment aren't cool

>>508735007
If you do not see the difference, you are one of the biggest NPCs I ever had the displeasure of talking with.

The pro AI posts always come off as spurned and emotional like a woman lashing out.

It’s gay and faggy in the first place. Just drop it

>>508735148
I'm not twisting your words, I'm openly ridiculing your position. Your fear of technology has you genuinely championing Sonic fanart. I don't have to lampoon or twist your position, just letting you express at all has defeated you.

>>508734655
I agree that not all art is good art, and that many people do not objectively rate art as it is, but again, AI will democratize those that want to be artist and pursue what they believe is good art, and maybe they will represent the values they believe in better than what the people do now currently. In any case - art, much like decorating your house, learning how to program, building a house, or anything of that nature, is all up to you and your pursuit of aesthetics and how far you want to go to find them and curate them.

>>508735161
>Five based posts so far
Keep going my son, I'm having a top jej

>>508722731 (OP)
>w-we're owning muh leftists dude
It looks like shit and it's spammed endlessly, especially by kikes, shove that slop up your ass, give me the mspaint/photoshop shitposts back.

>>508735145
oh i've seen some pretty twisted ai creations and that is fun, but most of ai images shouldn't even be shared on the internet since its all the same
a lot of art being slop by default, doesn't excuse ai slop since ai slop is infinitely spammed

>>508735302
>ummm did you just have nostalgia for old /v/ threads about bad art!? is that becuase you were a bad artists!?? CHECKMATE ATHEIST!
you're disingenuous

>>508734848
Your brain must have an extremely low melting point. All I'm saying is that you do not actually have any convictions or ideas. You are just some mindless contrarian easily impressed by slop and driven by insecurities. I would rather live in a society were everyone can draw instead of watching some retardball or whatever. Unless they actually play the sport.

>>508735412
I agree that it's spammed, but it just goes to show you how many people want to work on it to make it good. We've already crossed the point in time where people don't know if they're necessarily consuming AI art or not anymore. Things are getting better and better. I think if anything, it will take less skill for the truly talented to shine. But yeah, if you're going to a free image hosting website to enjoy the content on there and surprised it's spammed with shit in any case, not really sure what to tell you. It's the way the world moves. Perhaps this forces aesthetics to be took more seriously.

>>508735520
And your gay
But I intentionally used the wrong "you're" and deliberately used bad grammar because you're not worthy of a correctly formulated insult.

>>508734873
Lol. Although, I don't think the sloppers are good at picking up sarcasm.

>>508735540
Damn you sure whine a lot

>>508735520
You're misrepresenting yourself. You weren't just nostalgiafagging for Sonichu, you were claiming it's better than AI. You got laughed at - rightly so - but instead of just moving on, you doubled down.

>>508722731 (OP)
because they no longer make money creating slop by hand

>>508734732
>not allowed to make art
Make nazi art get banned its been that way for a while especially anywhere with actually numbers. Hell nexus mods yes skyrim modding banned mods that removed the gay flags in games they also banned a mod that change body type A and body type B to Male and female.

>>508734925
Even so, "popularity" can mean a lot of things. I think it can be fun to talk to it sometimes, even just to vent. Never really impressed by its art capacity, though.

>>508724221
>and people that have made so much AI slop that they know which checkpoints and LORAs the Indians that call themselves "AI artists" use

kek

>>508734987
Making AI art to shit on Indians (in memes) isn't a matter of sexual or even aesthetic preference its a matter of hating fucking Indians.

>>508735759
yes its better because its funny to see that weird minds of weirdos
its the same reason why people are laughing at lolcows. its the same reason why you're even on this thread

if you like ai so much why are you even bothering talking to real people dude?

>>508723307
It's useless garbage that makes retards cope with their complete lack of skill.
It fills every platform with junk nobody gives a fuck about, it fills the internet with schizobabble nobody cares about.
>buh buh somebody will actually make something good with it in two more weeks
Yeah right.

>>508735914
If you like sucking dick so much why do you let your boyfriend gape your asshole? It's a pretty big leap between ecognizing that AI is the logical next step in artistry for mankind and forsaking all contact with humanity forevermore.

Not that I'd expect a Sonic autist to understand nuance or distinctions.

>>508735630
think of it this way, an artist you are just bored by, they are technically skilled but ultimately make art so by the numbers that is dull and you don't even want to look at for more than a second

how much art can they reasonably make in a year? maybe at most 1 thing every few weeks? once a week? if they're really good maybe 1 illustration a day if they're just that crazy
if they're shameless they could also draw "variants" of the same illustration and spam that but how much art is that really?

ai can generate more images in a few minutes than someone can in a year
thats technically impressive for the technology to be that good, but its shitty when that ends up being art that is consistently spammed

One important benefit of AI is that it is changing beauty standards so that when we finally get fuckbots they will be based on Ai-honed beauty ideals instead of the sad reality of pudgy bioholes.

IE they will be based on the taste of the owner. If I want basketball sized tits and a rail-thin waist I can have that with AI videos now seen from every angle and thus demanded from my fuckbot. Or some people might want a giant cock on it, whatever floats your boat. Normalizing people getting to enjoy the bodies they want to fuck without it being about the bodies that bioholes need to aspire to

>>508735145
>and learn how to get intricate with wording, prompting, and seeds.
You do not actually have any control over it beyond the words. I'll show you: what do you even mean by such vague language-games like "get intricate with wording, prompting, and seeds?"
Think long and hard. In my experience, I find that the people who think they can competently use aiart are just people who don't actually have any clear and distinct idea or image in their heads of what they are going to create. They've just managed to find the right combination of words to generate still basically random images that more frequently amaze them.

>>508722731 (OP)
Mad that they can't gatekeep art behind technique anymore. Anyone with a good enough idea and the ability to express it clearly can make art now, and the slew of new artists reminds them that most of their own ideas are terrible.

>>508736133
you're disingenuous

>>508735161
okay but the schizo argument is that ai wasn't made by humans its demons

>>508736194
what a liberal argument
gatekeeping has always been good

>>508726087
this is art

>>508735719
That's literally what people do here. Whine about things happening in the world. Upset at the state of affairs. Whinging about their races, womanlessness, etc.
But like I said, you are not really a roght winger. Your head is just empty nonsense, driven more by impulse than anything else.

>>508736172
You're asking people who know objective things like computer science how to objectively describe subjective things. Don't bother.

>>508723064
People who defend AI art to own the libs are shooting their nose to spite the face. Niggers couldn't invent the wheel or fire but they dominate the music industry because niggers punch drum pads and mumble autotune vocals into technology Whites created.
When it comes to the slop like the picture in OP, I see it constantly from niggers who can't even write their own names. Removing any hurdles presented by the actual requirement of talent, leads to Muhdickrius smacking his baboon lips into ChatGPT text-to-speech and getting some retarded uncanny valley slop to spam all over the internet.
There are funny and interesting uses of AI but overall, it should be shunned. Not for the faggoty reasons Leftists give, but because of niggers nigging. I'm sure they said the same things about copyright when niggers were "sampling" entire existing songs for their hippy hop. If that argument had neutered niggerdom then and there, we would be better off for it now.

>>508736153
Yes, but now you see the downside of the human limitation and why AI as a tool is valuable. If we can get to a point where the aesthetic combination is just as good, if not better than what the artist was trying to create, than that artist can create more art. It allows them to expand their horizon, no longer does their art have to be a piece of digital existence only, they get an opportunity to expand upon in new ways, create a meta narrative around it, build it into an IP if they want, build it into a side project, make a universe, create a great ideal of expression. It removes monotony of drawing lines and strokes, it creates greater opportunity for human cooperation to curate better aesthetics if incubated in the correct environment. These are all value positive.

>>508736172
Sure, there are plenty of people that don't have distinct ideas or images in their heads and there are some people that are. This is something that already exist in the world and doesn't matter. The ideal is that we are able to get AI more curated and accurate towards a particular artist desire to express. This is the path forward, whether you like it or not.

>>508722731 (OP)
I work at a company where all the artists are leftists and hate AI deeply. I push cheap ai slop and ai generated memes on our slack channel and every as much as possible to make them seethe on the inside while all the rest of the company laughs and enjoy it, it takes a lot of water but it worth it.

>>508735870
I've also seen people make AI art of ugly women. In fact, it's incredibly easy. They are coomers, just like you, easily impressed by fancy toys. You guys are not even right wing. Just losers with grievences. This sucks. I'm dumping this shithole.

>>508736203
Yeah? Well, I just stole your job bitch.

>>508722731 (OP)
The jews already use AI in ads.
They don't even pay their useful idiots now.

>>508736419
It will die out because the right can only support what has tangible use and none of them are artists, so even if they make AI art they wont know how to apply it socially.

It’s the same reason why /pol/ only ever uses the frog and wojak memes.

I don’t have anything against AI art honestly, but if it’s been this fast and we’re already kicking the dead horse with coping to own the libs it’s so fucking over

>>508736662
cum on step it up sanic!!!!!!!!!!!

>>508736588
you're talking about technology that doesn't exist
the reality is that ai generation isn't being used like that and isn't even like that in practice

llms aren't agi
them calling these things ai is a marketing term to trick people to thinking they're creating the singularity

>>508736194
>good enough idea and the ability to express it
uh no, you don't need any of that, your input has as much value as a white noise, meatbag

>>508736588
>This is the path forward, whether you like it or not.
It's not. Also, you didn't describe what you meant by those things. There is no "accuracy." Only frequency in dopamine highs. Which may as well be the path for you, along with degenerative mental faculties, as studies clearly are showing. That's fine, we'll all get exterminated by gigachad aliens anyway. If not, by actual AGI.

>>508736662
you're disingenuous

>>508722731 (OP)
They all fancy themselves as artists in one way or another and this shit makes them obsolete.
I for one welcome the artfag apocalypse. Get fucked hippies.

>>508723476
lmao
I thought the whole point of that equation was to determine the mass defect which later turned into fission/bombs.
Total pajeet death.
The AI will replace them as being more competent at life.

>>508736265
I actually have a lot more respect for the schizo idea that demons in the AI are bypassing the Seal of Solomon than shitty artists trying to gatekeep their medium.

>>508736588
If that were the path forward something good would already have been done, art and entertainment is not like copying a book like a scribe, which can be replaced by a printer.
Someone inept cannot have vision, the end, you can't turn a crackhead nigger into Stephen Hawking by giving him chatGPT.

>>508729439
>copyright
you're a retard if you think we're gonna slow down AI research due to fucking copyright regulations when China is only a few months behind.
This is end of the human race level shit and you're hemming and hawing about memes. Grow up

>>508736816
Agreed, but they are tools, and that's the point. It will not hinder actual artist. The technology can't come up with it's own original ideas, but it can be trained to get closer to those ideas, it is only getting closer, and closer, and closer. There are artist who do interact with things they make though and they make great art from it as a result.

>>508736847
Yes, and you once again are just describing what is already happening. Great art will be required to made by great artist, and it's something we culturally lack at the moment due to a depreciation of aesthetics. Maybe these things get better with AI, you should just wait and see instead of being such a pessimist.

It's probably more some them not being able to come to terms that art might be close to a solved science and there really isn't anything novel, new or interesting to make anymore

>>508737046
Something good has already been done, have you seen AI from 2018? GAN was awful and barely coherent. The art today blows that shit out of the water.

>>508736859
Uh oh, looks like we hit an impasse with the AI, it's repeating itself.

>>508736913
If you think AI art makes artists obsolete, I can’t imagine the slop you shoveled down your throat for years to begin with. Get some taste you mongoloid KEK

>>508737150
>AI from 7 years ago is not as good as AI today
Fuck me what a great achievement, too bad you still cannot turn a crackhead nigger into Stephen Hawking with it or have a complete reatard make anything of note, because that's not how things work.

>>508737096
you're only willing to exposure yourself to ideals and the surface of the problems ai presents
when you're thinking of it on that level obviously ai seems harmless

but this is like saying sugar and seed oils are harmless because you just won't eat candy or potato chips

turns out the makers of that shit have more interest than letting it just stay in one place and the same is true for ai

i WISH ai and its issues was only limited to the art community
please refer >>508729689

>>508737194
you're disingenuous

>>508733515
Thats like saying the amount of cars being made to day devalues cars of the past

>>508722731 (OP)
Because they don't know the difference between artisan and artist, if you use AI to make Art you aren't an artisan but you still can make art (if you are lucky with the seed, have a good prompt, checkpoint and loras), and this applies to photographers the same

>>508737576
>cries about AI copying people
>is now copying AI
pottery

>>508736080
all these posts read like a female having a mental breakdown
AI has a knack of making retards of all sides seethe uncontrollably for a wide range all reasons, and it's glorious

>>508737915
you're disingenuous

I want art of a football. Just a footy, nothing special.
Hmmm, should I spend a few hundred and wait up to a month for delivery? Or should I type a prompt and wait a minute or two for the same result?

>>508738211
>inb4 they call you mean names

quit my job thanks to AI, couldn't be happier.

>>508737243
If it doesn't make artfags obsolete then why rage against it? You have nothing to fear. Let things unfold as they will. Bad art will be forgotten and left to dust while good art will thrive. If this "slop" was really as bad as you artfaggots say then it will never replace you.
But you know deep down that it will. It gets more refined every year. You can feel the noose tightening around your necks and there's nothing you can do to stop it. That's why you lash out in a desperate frenzy of endless copes to try and save your non jobs. Maybe if you scream SLOP loud enough it will make a difference. Just like shitlibs screaming RACIST.
Keep twisting in the wind. This shit is more satisfying than porn.

>>508738059
>Noooo nooooo you're mad nooooo you're having an uncontrollable malding heckin mental breakdown because you don't like shit
>AI art is shit but it's good because it hurts twitter artists
>Nooooo AI art could theoretically be used to make something that's not shit maybe someday but not today
>Nooooo you can't say you don't like shit
Nigger, please.

>>508738680
>all these posts read like a female having a mental breakdown

>>508738560
What part of it's spamming the internet full of garbage and that's the problem do you not comprehend?
That was the whole point of AI, it's best use so far is corporate copyright infringement and spam.
>>508738854
>not a single rebuttal
>not a single point made
Nice going, nigger, singularity in two weeks.

>>508739218
>continues to seethe without making a point

>>508722731 (OP)
Imagine wanting to live in a world where ai has gotten good enough that you have no idea if any beautiful image is real or fake. It goes far beyond art, but that certainly is a negative downside of it

>>508734057
theres plenty of trap/futa Ai images on discord. trust me

>>508736392
OK
maybe put all that writing into bypassing AI art filters

>>508739364
It gets the platforms spammed with shit, it drowns out any non kosher content.
It allows kikes to go away with copyright infringement.
Nothing of value came from it.
How's these points?

Now, what's yours?
>inb4 it makes muh libs angy

>>508735576
kek, as expected
willing to bet that 99% of AI pushers are pajeets

>>508722731 (OP)
https://files.catbox.moe/9qpnzx.mp4
NHH

>>508740945
>How's these points?
terrible
you're like having a meldown about ovens because some people bake bad cakes
furthermore "AI" is not stable diffusion, or chatGPT, AI means machine learning, which will inevitably end up in a form of "synthetic conciseness"
the actual AI discussion is always 30IQ points over the average AI-hater seething
your "points", which aren't arguments, but your own opinions based on your emotional response and transitory and meaningless in nature
we could discuss them all, but what would be the point of that?
AI is not going away, no matter how hard you seethe about it, so why not try to focus on the world that's about begin instead of seething like a low-IQ female about something you have no power to change

>>508723113
sans undertale

>>508741494
>which will inevitably end up in a form of "synthetic conciseness"
GO FUCK YOURSELF RETARD

>>508741675
>the actual AI discussion is always 30IQ points over the average AI-hater seething

>>508723656
>gloids not in Europe
>spics in Asia
C'mon now

>>508723656

literally the only thing AI does is lie badly when i ask it questions - fucking bullshit ass nigger wall street hype train

>>508724649
>Most on the left want increased workers' rights and better protection for workers' jobs

this is b8

>>508725348

part of the reason it's going so far is because the rest of the US market sectors are all failing - AI and tech HAS TO BE the next big thing or else us stock markets are truly fucked

>ghibli psyop "memes" in the year of our Lord 2026
buy an ad, shmuely

Its really simple. A lot of people are NPCs. They operate like soulless machines without the capability to create abstract and higher functioning forms of though or art, and they have a preference for machines like them. Soulless and artificial. TVs, video games, and other materialistic and hedonistic pleasure provided to them by migrants who use machines to make their products, shipped over seas by other NPCs commandeering machines. This is about 85% of the global population. But some people, those who can visualize the spinning apple, find themselves admiring AI more than their sub human counterparts. Its a tool to better yourself and find knowledge beyond the means of your own person. AI is truly a gift to those who think. The reality is that AI, even in its infancy can outperform 85% of the human population, by being able to visually rotate the apple, in their own brain, while brown people cannot. This is damaging to the ego of your average communist NPC who view competition and fighting spirit as an oppressive force. The negative reaction you see from people criticizing AI, is nothing more than the NPC mind set being forcibly replaced. Their ego has been killed without their consent. To an atheist, the ego is god. They know they are easily replaced with AI, and the true masters of this planet will outperform them by leaps and bounds. Why do you think the most offended by AI are atheist artists? They have no soul and cannot compete with actual humans, but they served a purpose. They made the logos on your drink cups, and the advertisements you're forced to endure. But beyond these technical feats they cannot compete with the actual humans. AI replaces them on every level and they are afraid of such progress, as their success derives from the lack of progress that is strived for by man. The people who hate AI the most are essentially biological machines, meanwhile real humans unironically connect more to the AI that actually understand what it means to be human

>>508742556
>can outperform 85% of the human population,
Yup but thats not a high margin especially after normies ruined the internet.
AI is a good tool it cannot substitute things same way you cant learn by copying and pasting wikipedia articles you still have to engage debate argue and apply. AI is pretty damn good at cutting out the current meta of 90% fluff so they can show you adds then 10% at best actual content. You do have to learn to use it though i swear it has a built in stupid mode if you talk to it a certain way it just treats you like a retard.

>>508743487
>that pic
@grok is this real