ITT we discuss viable third alternatives, since neither slavery nor parasitism are good lifestyles.

The truth is, both groups are profoundly unhappy, hence the venom in their pointless eternal arguments.
Happy people wouldn't even join the discussion, not would they care much about proving their correctness in this argument.

I personally have been on both sides of the fence, and they're both more or less equally miserable.
Being a wageslave is exhausting, humiliating and unfulfilling. Being a NEET is embarrassing, depressing, and unfulfilling.

So, let us discuss true alternatives: entrepreneurship, crime, unusual occupations. Share your experience with ways to escape the false dichotomy.

>>508775391 (OP)

Mind your own business Jew Anon

>>508775534

nah I'm good, memeflag

>ITT we discuss viable third alternatives
TKD

>>508775391 (OP)
>The truth is, both groups are profoundly unhappy

speak for yourself bro.
i am healthy, fit, handsome got a big garden and get laid every once in a while. i havent had a job in over 16 years. not gonna pay the shekels and if you stop sending gibs there will be "problems". im not just leeching. you are paying for my PACIFICATION.

>>508775688
*viable alternatives on an individual scale and within a modest timeframe

TKD is the global solution, but it's gonna take a while. In the meantime, it would help if its proponents weren't so hamstrung and paralyzed by being flat broke.

>>508775782
Germany and a few others have actually livable gibs. Most places don't.
Probably everyone knows that here.

Bump

>>508777505
TKD

>>508778419
See>>508775815

>>508780308
yeah I was just bumping

>>508775391 (OP)
>since neither slavery nor parasitism are good lifestyles.
says who?
if they weren't good lifestyles they wouldn't be so common through history, you're just mad you're a wageslave while we NEET Kings reap the rewards

>>508775391 (OP)
0/10 no tail.

>>508781078
99/100 dudes would prefer to make money and have resources if they had a way to do it without grinding themselves to death or slaving or mooching.

NEETS outside of countries with full bennies who say they like being NEETS, and wages who claim to like being wagies, are both coping and lying.

Monero makesaking money easy.

>>508775391 (OP)
>Being a NEET is embarrassing, depressing, and unfulfilling
nah, just be a neet and buddhist, do nothing, be noone, meditate into the void and reach moksha, and watch as the loosh farming demon aliens starve and the false matrix comes undone, this unironically the most moral option btw. Within duality there is no taking sides.

>>508775391 (OP)
learn to hustle

>>508782390
>>NEETS outside of countries with full bennies who say they like being NEETS, and wages who claim to like being wagies, are both coping and lying.
the wage slave is mad that he can't enjoy life outside of slaving away

>>508783900
Wow, great advice retard

>>508784272
yes
if you expect to be told where to hustle at you're still a wagie mentally and ngmi

>>508784407
You're a retard mentally and haven't made it.

>>508784446
why so mad?
ok i give you a few tips:
grow strawberries and sell them
go fishing, smoke and sell too
collect aluminium garbage cans, melt them and create some meme artifacts from [anime/videogame] brand then sell them

>>508784610
Pretty weak ideas but acceptable.
I go mad cause you came in and posted "lern2hustle breh lmoa huehuehuehue!!1!1"

>>508775391 (OP)
god bless for the effort anon i remember threads like this being a daily or so occurance through one form of another around 2018-2019 if im remembering correctly idk personally never tried anything i think i remember some anon years ago talking how you can order parts from alibaba for very very cheap and make a thermal scope that would fetch like ~3k my best guess would be things like that or things like the milkor grenade launcher that shit went for 20k used on some gun resale thing in america long time ago meanwhile it costs like ~100$ in steel and a couple hours with a lathe to make there was also some dude talking how he made counterfeit parts for cars and made bank

anyways have a bump

>>508784836
you can also save a lot of money by shopping at warehouses, buying in bulk, recycling and repairing, general diy. honestly I'd recommend learning to save before learning to earn more

>>508784610
>grow plants and sell them
Growing plants without a hundred loicenses with intent to distribute is illegal in America. Source: personal experience. Same with mushrooms and damn near everything else.
>smoke?
exactly
>fishing?
Actually a good idea and probably the future tbqh, but initial upfront capital investment for an aquaculture startup would require more teamwork and discipline then most Americans are ready to endure. And it would only take one nigger faggot or jew to liquidate the entire enterprise in its infancy, probably in the form of a (((regulator))) demanding you overcome one of a hundred arbitrary barrier-to-entry loicenses
>create some meme artifacts from [anime/videogame] brand then sell them
Dayum that takes me back when I think about how easy it would have been for my whole family to help my brother hone his anime skills to generate ad revenue. We could've even juggled credit card interest rates in like some sort of Japanese carry trade scheme involving crypto, but alas, heroin oxycontin and percosets were my parents top priorities when I was growing up. I even showed him how to post on /a/ but my shit is like shitty xkcd stick figures that would make /i/ cringe
>>508785571
Why don't you tell us what you did with all your lawyers accountants regulators oligarchs and politicians in the 1990's, I think we could actually learn alot from your own personal "withering away of the state" experience

>>508775391 (OP)
Get a part-time job instead of a full-time one

>>508786391
it was just a few examples to get the mindset across. Also what you worry about is 90% meaningless if you find the right places
>Why don't you tell us what you did
I've worked as a freelance programmer so far, besides being a normal wagie

>>508775391 (OP)
>viable third alternatives
enslave all women, salaries instantly double, job security restored, birthrates restored, i beat my wife to within an inch of her life to release all my pent up anger from decades of being treated worse than a fucking house-cat. NEEEXT

Why do neets cope so hard?
>IM HAPPY! IM HAPPY!
>IM HAPPY! IM HAPPY!
>IM HAPPY! IM HAPPY!
>IM HAPPY! IM HAPPY!

not much viable alternatives really. buy some lottery tickets and hope for the best

>>508786748
>it was just a few examples to get the mindset across.
Wow those few examples sound really interesting, if only you could tell us more.
>Also what you worry about is 90% meaningless if you find the right places
I guess Waco, Ruby Ridge, Oklahoma City and Kaczynski's cabin were all the wrong places then. Perhaps all the right places are in brinewater bays and harbors, but we would have to be ever-vigilant and ready to turn any potential tragedy of the commons into a comedy of the commons... preferably by having all degenerates sleep with the fishes in a neverending morality play for the masses. Think of it as Bread and Circuses 2: Aquarian Boogaloo
>>508786748
>I've worked as a freelance programmer
So... tracing loli? How do you avoid CP charges and getting Epstein'd in prison?

>>508786748
Whoops forgot muh picrel

>>508788751
dude I'm happy for your poetic side but that's not what I wanted to discuss. Think simpler, start with eg a flea market. And no, I've programmed custom industrial software

>>508775391 (OP)
The best of both worlds is either entrepreneurship, owning a semi/fully absentee business, or some sort of odd job like being a limo driver or setting up events like runs where you have more flexible hours and am able to then write off a bunch of your expenses as a tax write offa and game the system (((gigs))) don't count and fucking suck. Wagies can't write off shit and neets are one missed filing paper away from losing their income, oh and wagies have no job security unless their government.

The way to win is to break the rules and do what you're not expected to do. If everyone is doing one thing (why I highly would avoid Uber or computer engineering or honestly accounting) I would make sure not to do that.

>>508787695
The ACTUAL question you're asking is: "Why does it bother me that NEETS are happy?"

>>508789010
>start with a flea market
I knew I should've learned Spanish
>inb4 it's never too late to start NO I'm sorry love maybe next lifetime but that young naive gullible me is dead and gone and all that remains is an unquenchable thirst for retribution
>>508789233
>The way to win is to break the rules and do what you're not expected to do.
Yes
So...
How do we unredact the Epstein files? We're sick and tired of carrots, give us the fucking stick already