Thread 508779213

Why it seems like Russians are evolving backwards

>what is cram
that's a ak-360 repurposed for the same thing as ciws was for cram.

it's not a bad idea.

>>508779213 (OP)
thats actually a good idea tho

>>508779213 (OP)
>the army has been cutting the stocks off of rifles and making them smaller to be able to fit in a pocket to be worn on the belt of soldiers
a gun is a gun. what kind of cope is this
>noooooooo you cant shoot me on land with ship guns!

>>508779213 (OP)
What's the actual problem?

>>508779213 (OP)
Russia's been cleaning house by throwing it's obsolete crap on the front line since this whole thing started.
Things will get real once the new shit starts getting rolled out. But I assume that's reserved for when NATO wants to join for realsies.

>>508779257
Only Ak-630 is trash compared to CIWS

>>508779213 (OP)
oy vey! that weapon didn't come with an over prices cost plus contract!!

>>508779213 (OP)
NAFO SISTERS ITS WORSE THAN YOU ACTUALLY THINK

>>508779213 (OP)
They’re literally the orcs from 40k it’s actually quite fascinating

>>508779213 (OP)
>straight up a defense turret from command & conquer

Wait a sec, russians might actually be based

>>508779213 (OP)
Turns out russia outproducing NATO was a lie, their "production" was refurbishment, their military is getting smaller and weaker every day

>>508779358
> once the new shit starts getting rolled out.
Such as?

>>508779213 (OP)

A CIWS is a CIWS.
The Americans put Phalanx on trucks too, retard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centurion_C-RAM

>>508779374
actually its superior because it has a higher rate of fire (5000 rpm vs 4000)

>>508779213 (OP)
Permanent positions is a bit retarded, they'll get taken out real quick, but they'd be pretty good for anti-drone work and mopping up infantry and light vehicles.

>>508779257
phalanx/cram has it's own integrated radar, though
the russian version relies on the ship's radar, which it clearly does not have access to once you've ripped it off the ship
they're probably using for ground fire support then because good luck hitting flying targets without radar

>>508779213 (OP)
why aren't you at the front defending your country, that's the more pressing question

>>508779358
>terminator and su57 posting in 2025
lol
lmao

>>508779213 (OP)
Ships are obsolete trash, better use for that

>>508779483
Fire rate doesn’t matter if you can’t hit the target

>>508779317
Static defenses are backwards as hell. Otherwise however, yeah, if Ukrainians put a rapid fire 127mm naval turret on a truck for an artillery gun with a 60 rpm rate of fire Ukrainian fans would be cheering it as proof of Ukrainian ingenuity.

>>508779593
they arent for air defense

>>508779358
What new shit? Like those 2 Armatas they use for parades? Russia doesn't have any new shit. They'll have to buy any modern stuff from China

>>508779213 (OP)
I read this shit back in 2022 or 23. Is this just being recycled by AI or some retard?

>>508779717
I guess their idea is pretending that these nigga rigged vehicles mean russia is gonna run out of soldier and hardware soon (in about 2 weeks).

>>508779213 (OP)
Comfy AA

>>508779213 (OP)
>Why
US aircraft deployments last week.

>>508779213 (OP)
do you really need 30mm to shoot down those drones?
should make a 6 barrel 7.62

>>508779374
ciws is definitely more accurate when you watch videos of them both firing at targets.
>>508779506
i'm sure they have a bass tilt radar nearby for it, otherwise it'd be of no use (it's obviously being used for drone defense)

I look forward to the day Israeli shills are publicly executed.

>>508779506

>ground fire support
No, assuming it's manually controlled it's just the right thing for disabling long range drones cruising at low altitude which radar acquisition would struggle with.

>>508779299
Literal Command and Conquer.
Don't expect the shills to admit anything to them its all just rar rar muh team good your team bad. Indians and Israeli recruits are low effort.

>>508779846
It probably have shrapnel in it that tears drones into pieces, so it doesn't have to directly hit it.

>>508779358
>Russia producing new shit and not just cannibalizing their inherited Soviet inventory
>>>/x/
Equipment made post >1980 in use by Russia right now are exclusively made their industrial powerhouse patreons North-Korea, Iran and China. They should thank Allah that they accept crude oil and gas as payment for they have nothing else to offer.

>>508779483
says 1000rpm in the op pic

>>508779846
30mm is longer range for survielance drones

>>508779940
> assuming it's manually controlled it's just the right thing for disabling long range drones cruising at low altitude which radar acquisition would struggle with
Kek Ziggers reaching cope unbelievable. Radar doesn’t struggle against drones and manually controlled is not “perfect” against anything

>>508779328
Hoth is missing the snow.

>>508779213 (OP)
They should put the jet engines on their trucks too since they never use their airplanes.

>>508780052
makes sense

>>508779328
A mortar round.

>>508780052
You’re not hitting surveillance drone with this piece of shit

>>508779213 (OP)
It's no different from a land based CIWS system (which burgers have)

>>508779213 (OP)
how is that effective at all? An fpv drone can blow up the barrels.

>>508779257
it is not meant to be in a fucking permanent position, it will only be a big ol' target.

>>508780368
or rather C-RAM, I should add

>>508779358
they were burning up the old t90m stocks in kiev in order to usher in the new t14 armata which will take the obmolmostlopol oblast in eastern norpov direction

>>508780368
>>508780470
The difference is that CIWS has dedicated radar and proven track record, AK-630 is Russian desperate attempt to defend against drones because turns out Pantsir is also trash

>>508779506
Are you sure radar is any use against 15 inch long FPV drones flying close to the ground?

>>508779506
The MR-123 is not the ship's primary radar and can easily be dismounted.

>>508779940
how the fuck would you manually control this shit in order to hit flying targets?

>>508780587
see
>>508780686

>>508779454
Tesla coils when or does Elon have the copyright?

>>508779213 (OP)
Or you could just leave Russia and Ukraine alone to sort our shit between us and live your life.

>>508779882
that said, infantry ain't moving the speed of a missle. especially if the us gets involved

>>508780863
> just leave Russia and Ukraine alone

>>508779328
Russia can just blast lower tech airborne threats (drones, mortars, artillery, rockets) away with ease now.
That's barbaric and soooo WW1.

>>508780863
lmao you're pic related

>>508780325
How the fuck you you know that? They can be guided by 2 doppler radar trucks.
A 30mm round can travel 10,000 feet

>>508779213 (OP)
It started right after they become christian country. In 2000~ when they started promote Christianity.

The more christian, Imperial shit they have, the more backwards they're.

>>508779213 (OP)
>occupied south
The cope is extreme.

Btw, this shit is useless. That's why they removed it from ships (in ussr times I think). Really awful design.
I think it was made to be anti ships only.

It can't be lowered. Whatever, even old ussr anti air systems was better.

>>508779257
>not a bad idea
Yeah they're not exactly doing much naval combat here. Might as well allocate efficiently

>>508780587
Back to /k you fatso

>Basically, it's a six-barreled 30mm anti-aircraft gun that was intended specifically for weapon nests on ships, fully integrated into the vessel's power and fire control systems. Purpose-wise, AK-630 is a "last resort" air defense weapon for destroying airborne threats at very close ranges of 4 to 5 km.

>The gun is usually laid remotely via the MR-123 artillery fire control system which includes a target detection and tracking radar, a television display and controllers, and a collimator column sight as a backup. In addition, they needed to ensure the power supply to the gun.

>>508780032
its not accurate

>>508779358
The real russian army will show up any day now.

>>508779213 (OP)
Why are the Germans using Flak88 as arty? Are they retar-AAAAACK!

>>508783848
The real ukranny counteroffensyiv will show up any day now

>>508779506
The Russian system makes it pretty much unuseable since having the radar that far away from the gun makes it too inaccurate to intercept small things going really fast. The Russians can't figure out how to deal with the parallax so the system is basically useless as CIWS, which is why they are removing them to be used as bunkers.

>>508779317
OP is from r/uhg and his screencap is literally NAFO twitter

>>508779328
>you can't just use low cost junk to beat our expensive high tech shit, you have to bankrupt yourself like us

>>508779213 (OP)
her is your next gen armata tank bro

>>508780863
or you could just leave Ukraine alone. And sort out your shit in Russia and live your life.

>>508784325
Leave us alone you memeflag retard. Don’t instigate wars and cry wolf you fucking nigger dickhead

>>508779893
yep tired of these chug niggers

>>508784391
Don't invade countries and then cry when you can't break a third world shit hole

>>508784600
>saaar I’ll provoke you into conducting military actions!
>saaaar why are you doing military actions saaaar????
The kike cries out in pain as he strikes you lmao. Eat shit and die in a ditch

>>508784543
Chuggers are mostly brown and 100% Untermensch.

>>508780863
>Or you could just leave Russia and Ukraine alone to sort our shit between us and live your life.

>>508784391
>>508785114
any explanation zister?

>>508783848
not before the gloves come off though. first things first.

>>508784326
>talmudic machine spirit itching to kill goyim

>>508779358
Two weeks

>>508785487
We should oust Putin after we hang zlonsky on our antisemitic crusade. You with me gang?

>>508785724
> could be set for:
jewish kikery detection
...in minecraft.

Havent' arrived there yet.

>>508779213 (OP)
bloons td

>>508779213 (OP)

>dalek allies
>evolving backwards

pick one

>>508786182
Imagine not burying your dead in piles of oreos and happy meals. Couldn’t be me lol

>>508779213 (OP)
based as fuck
Tesla coil upgrade when?

>>508779213 (OP)
New CSTO tranny wunderwaffe just dropped.

>>508783937
OR.....perhaps they're getting ready to take the whole enchilada as naval firing power on land is pretty much shelling the bejezus out of kiev. This wasnt done haphazardly. Thats not how Russians think. Theyre preparing to zerg rush.

>>508786487
Kys nafo troon.

>>508782536
Because AK-630 is piece of shit?
>lost in Black Sea against slow naval drones
>WE WILL HIT FLYING DRONES WITH THIS(even though Pantsir can’t hit them with their canons)

>>508786487
Russians are TRANNYS ok? They’re also not WHITE and BASED and they’re also KIKE JEW!!!

>>508786594
Nigga you’re the poop connoisseur, you tell us

>>508779213 (OP)
They don’t have a Navy left

>>508779675
That being the case does not support your position anon...

>>508786539
Go back to /chug/ CSFO tranny.

>>508779358
I am actually nostalgic for when posts like these were serious circa March 2022 lol

>>508779213 (OP)
In fairness, what are they doing on the ships? Fucking nothing. This is pragmatic if nothing else.

>>508779213 (OP)
Lol that's what the nazis did as a last ditch effort in 1945. Soon we will be seeing half buried tank turrets in the streets of cities

>>508786497
> This wasnt done haphazardly. Thats not how Russians think
AHAHAHAHAHA
> Theyre preparing to zerg rush.
What do you mean preparing? They are doing it for last year

>>508779213 (OP)
Those guns are seriously deadly though.

>>508779213 (OP)
>haha they tried something, so stupid and pathetic
>1 month later
>hey let's do the same

>>508779358
ziggers have been saying this for 3 years

>>508787027
I don’t remember Ukraine copying Russian blocking detachments, naval guns attached to Mtlb, tanks with non-functioning guns with shed built around it.
Meanwhile Russian use of horses and bikes was used by Ukraine since 2022

>>508783937
Are you a fucking retard? What is doppler radar? Two dishes spread apart is the most accurate radar.

>>508786845
yeah but they still need two more weeks prep time and then it will be over for nato

>>508787258
Do you remember Ukrainian penal battalions bro? Which they used in spring and summer 2022. Or maybe you can give us a deep insight into Ukrainian counteroffensyiv of Krynky and Robotyne? Or maybe anything about a Ukrainian blogger who cooked soup of his own dead soldiers? Or why did Russian occupiers shelled themselves in Bucha repeatedly haha

>>508784326
DROP YOUR WEAPON
YOU HAVE 15 SECONDS TO COMPLY

>>508779358
>Things will get real once the new shit starts getting rolled out.
They've been saying this since the war started btw

>>508779213 (OP)
That is actually quite a good idea. I guess Ukraine has even less time that we thought.

>>508779358
literal consooooomer response

>Let's clear the air!
Guns ready for full auto.
>Gun barrels cooled and ready!
I love the smell of gunpowder!
>Loadin' up the belt.
Scanning horizon.
>Let's take the guns for a spin!
Rolling!
>Faster and faster!
I was born for this job!
>Rev up those cylinders!
How about a shell shower!
>Let the bullets fly!
Mow them down!
>Start up the whizzers!
Time for some lead stitching!

>>508784290
I love how everyone praising this nigger tech is a turdie themselves.

Your sharpened sticks have 0 effects on the White man's weapons. Subhuman savages.

>>508788243
>Do you remember Ukrainian penal battalions bro?
Storm-Z and Storm-V? Oh wait, only Russia has penal battalions

>>508779213 (OP)
that's just russian engineering, and it's based. run whatcha brung, brother.

>>508789158
This
Ukrainians don't live long enough on the battlefield to commit crimes.

>>508789275
lewd

>>508780097
Radar does not work near the ground. When drones are flying only a few dozen feet above the ground, radar will not detect them.

>>508789158
So do you remember Ukrainian penal battalions or not? Azov dispatched several units in spring and summer 2022. Or maybe you can give us a deep insight into Ukrainian counteroffensyiv of Krynky and Robotyne? Or maybe anything about a Ukrainian blogger who cooked soup of his own dead soldiers? Or why did Russian occupiers shelled themselves in Bucha repeatedly haha

>>508779213 (OP)
Here we call it - Putin. 25 years. Results.

>>508787258
>blocking detachments
on week2 they had people chained to road signs with rocket launchers... azov and krakens main purpose is exactly that as they admited many many times
>I don’t remember
because you are a brainwashed gypsi who drowns in low quality propaganda

>>508791284
it's fucking insane, russia should have one of the highest quality of life standards on the planet with the amount of resources you have

>>508792204
He's either one of the most incompetent rulers in our entire history or someone's agent...

>>508790337
>So do you remember Ukrainian penal battalions or not?
how can I remember something that never existed
>Azov dispatched several units in spring and summer 2022.
>dispatched
look, zigger doesn't know English and just translates his metodichka on google translate, how cute. Meanwhile Russian soldiers invented new world for "getting executed by your commanders" because how often that happens AND they have quite well known track record of penal units
>you can give us a deep insight into Ukrainian counteroffensyiv of Krynky and Robotyne?
What this has to do with Russian use of "Russian blocking detachments, naval guns attached to Mtlb, tanks with non-functioning guns with shed built around it."

>>508779472
>The system is produced by Northrop Grumman, Raytheon, and Oshkosh Corporation.
>oshkosh corporation
WTF

>>508791284
So you're saying I shouldn't move to Russia?

Omg bet it doesn't have a WiFi. Russia is so backwarded.

>>508791284
Чoмy нe нa фpoнтi?

Back to ukraine, vlydymyr

>>508779213 (OP)
Russian engineering is Ork engineering.