Thread 508791915

How do you respond without sounding mad?

>>508791915 (OP)
the injuns are losers.
They didnt have the wheel ffs before they met the white man.

>>508791915 (OP)
if we gunned down caravans, we wouldnt have more of them, seems the red man had a good idea

>>508791990
But they did have chairs

>>508791990
the largest draft animal that injuns had was the dog
and they did put sleds on those little niggers
jew worshipping whites also killed off all of their dogs too

>>508791915 (OP)
they lost

>>508791915 (OP)
I’m ok going to war against Mexico over this issue so what is there to be mad about?

>>508791915 (OP)
Fighting for the defense of oneself and the success of your culture is not hypocritical

>>508791915 (OP)
If they'd succeeded they would have been a lot better off.

>>508792099
They killed all their sled dogs huh?
the alaskan malamute is doing just fine you moronic buffoon.

The painting from Fort Laramie makes me think not everyone in America was racist. I think it makes Americans look wild to Europeans. Like they wouldn't be able to comprehend why would would do something this way.

>>508792108
Once settlers got machine guns it was over two hundres years of living in teepes so the settlers didn't burned their towns

The chaos of 1700 europe on tribal lands

>>508792262
indians fought with each other all the time and kept other indians as slaves.
the whole noble savage thing is something uneducated people think.

>>508791915 (OP)
They were right but they were weak and stupid so they lost, plus the endless agression on their part just made their loss yet worse at the victors had no reason to have sympathy.

Bottom line: If you're trying to remove people from your land do it decisively, don't allow itto become an endlessstribg of failures that ends inyour own justified genocide.

>>508791915 (OP)
Immigration killed them, what is there to respond to?

>>508791915 (OP)
native tribes were constantly at war with eachother and would slaughter and conquer their neighbors regularly, they took their land with violence
then europeans came along and took the land with even greater violence
they should have no problem with this

>>508791915 (OP)
So you admit that mass immigration leads to the genocide of the indigenous population? Maybe if the redskins had slaughtered the colonists instead of helping them survive, they wouldn't be living on reservations right now

>>508791915 (OP)
>he said riding horses imported by european settlers

>>508792365
>Once settlers got machine guns it was over
when exactly do you think "machine guns" were invented...?

>>508791915 (OP)
How the fuck do lefties think these comparisons with Natives is a good idea? By allowing immigrants the Natives had their entire societies and ways of life destroyed.

>>508792099
buffalo will practically let just walk up to them and kill them without so much as whincing. the rest around it wont give a fuck either.

>>508792526
the puckle gun was invented in the early 1700's

>>508791915 (OP)
they lost and so did you

>>508791915 (OP)
The natives made the same mistake by not fighting hard enough. They got totally removed and replaced in a few hundred years and now what they have left is a ghost of the past of what they used to be

>>508792526
The 1770's?

Give or take a few decades

>>508791915 (OP)
they where justified in doing so,but they lost.
let's learn from their mistakes and win.

>>508792616
oh yeah western settlers were just carrying around fucking puckle guns how could I forget

>>508792375
CHEROKEE
MARCHIN' ON THE TRAIL OF TEARS

my brother in christ that door is closed and has been nailed shut a long, long time ago. the strong conquered the weak, simple as. not my fault, but also not my problem. i live in the here and now.

besides, my people came here from europe in the early 1900s, we didn't have anything to do with it.

>>508791915 (OP)
If you say it's OK for the redskins to rock up and burn wagons then by that logic it's ok for us to mass kill pajeets for the same reasons.

If it's not OK for us to genocide jeets and other shitskinned niggers, then injuns, abbos, whoever else need to shut the fuck up forever about whites.

>>508792284
you know that no one here was talking about eskimos, disingenuous nigger
plains dogs and many other kinds were completely wiped out

>>508792538
their argument is "your forebears did bad thing, so lay down and die."

>>508792538
Well let's be real: Any immigration would have destroyed them, owing to their weakness, underdevelopment, agression and poor hygiene.

You can lag behind only so much before any contact will kill ya.

>>508791915 (OP)
based
I didn't know ICE can scalp people with impunity
> 1pbtid
great

>>508791915 (OP)
If what happened to the Injuns was a genocide, what is happening to whites is a genocide

>>508792739
well, that's sad. Maybe the injuns should have gotten along then?

>>508791915 (OP)
Wish they'd been more successful.

>>508792753
Says the bubonic plague victim, protip syphylis ain't that hard to avoid

>be newspaper boomer liberal cartoonist

>argue to oppose ICE because I believe people have a right to move freely across borders.

>unintentionally make a "Blood for the Blood God, Might Makes Right" style argument that the settlers did nothing wrong by coming, which downplays colonization and Indigenous dispossession

>end up undermining Indigenous land claims or the moral basis for decolonization, since I just argued that movement and settlement shouldn't be restricted by anyone, ever.

>delegitimize Indigenous sovereignty and the right to resist colonization because it rejects the very idea of enforcing borders or regulating who can live where.

"Correct, we should butcher and scalp illegals the same way the natives did to us"

>>508791915 (OP)
Indians were perfectly reasonable resisting, especially with the hindsight of reservation and the fact that the "civilized tribes" like the Cherokee were sent on a death march to their reservations as a reward for their submissive nature.

>>508791990
>They didnt have the wheel ffs before they met the white man.
They didn't even have horses(they killed them all) until the spanish brought them over.

>>508792849
We survived that didn't we?
The dead ones are not here anymore.
There's your answer: This many of ours were clean and strong enough to survive, same for them.

Blaming us for disease before diseases were anything close to being understood is rathersilly anyway.

>>508792689
They had repeating air powered rifles. Lewis and clark used them on their first expedition.

>>508791915 (OP)
right and wrong and subservient to power

>>508791915 (OP)
>I dont like doing these immigration impales, but its gotta be done.

>>508792753
Of course you would say that, you're from the Netherlands. There's actually a town in New Jersey that's still called Hack-N-Sack because Dutch thought the name was too hard to say

>>508793111
a repeating rifle is not a machine gun

>>508792099
Yeah you know Eurasians didn't have draft animals either at first, they domesticated them. So you can add draft animals to the list of basic shit the dopey injuns never invented lol

>>508791915 (OP)
lmao chiwawa tribe, they lost

>>508791915 (OP)
Injuns no have fire sticks
Jew speakum with fork tongue

>>508791915 (OP)
>How do you respond without sounding mad?
Mad?

They had the right idea, they simply lost the fight.

We're not even getting to fight the fight.

Yet.

>>508791915 (OP)
White people invaded and took over native Americans land. So, what is the logic? White people should just give up their stolen land to any wannabe invader? Most people on Earth live on stolen land. You still defend it.

Is the author saying that natives had no right to defend their lands?

>>508793181
They still do this shit in Mexico and Africa
It’s why Jews want them here , so they can do it to white people.
Let’s do it to Jews first.

>>508791915 (OP)
Seethe injuns

>>508793211
We still do that to any foreigner words that don't mesh with our language, effectively everybody does.
Sahara dessert = Dessert dessert
Torpenhow hill = hill hill hill hill
(yeah yeah notstrictly the same but more than close enough)
Our own language is full of that stuff too, pretty much every language is.

It always amazes me that the kind of Americans that pretend to beagainst ignorance tend to bethemost ignorant of all, sticking to whatever "Now you know better" fairytales that have been fed to them because they lack genuine structural knowhow about the world that would allow them to see through it in an instant.

It's okay to be mad.

>>508791915 (OP)
Aryans are objectively the best race. Whether we leave the subhumans in peace, conquer them, or exterminate them, it's justified.

>>508791915 (OP)
They would have been correct to resist our attempts at conquering them. We remembered the Native Americans as warriors noble in defeat until leftists tried to make them into whiny faggots.

>>508792375
And? Whst your point, faggot? White people fight each-other and there some white people who are serial killers, white people would be better off gencoded and ruled by jews I guess.

>>508793216
guns are machines so technically yes they are

>>508793752
Yeah for a long time you did a great job of hiding the fact that they're mostly just fat, alcoholics and drug addicts from the rest of the world.

>>508791990
fpbp

>>508791915 (OP)
why do people think natives had horses before white people came?

>>508792449
>>508792375
Yes, and if they didn't fought each other maybe they had a chance against European invasion.
That's a good lesson in history. Familiar enemy is better than foreign one.

>>508791915 (OP)
Might is right, survival is the core virtue of life, and as such jude need to be pogromed, and non-Whites need to be expelled. The reds were correct, but they weren’t strong.

>>508793181
>if you only knew...

>>508791915 (OP)
And how are the injuns doing now?

>>508791915 (OP)
they were fighting for survival and lost

>>508791915 (OP)
It's not my fault they lost

>>508791915 (OP)
I agree with the injuns, the red man did nothing wrong

>>508791915 (OP)
The Indians and ICE are both justified. What happened to the Indians will happen to us without ICE getting very aggressive. It’s not hard.

>>508791915 (OP)
These people don’t know any natives

Go through Oklahoma, they’re all just as big of chuds as you, they’re not happy about immigration

>>508794002
Almost like they were absolutely bodied by disease and conflict and the remnants aren't representative of how they were at their peak. Genocide and forced cultural/religious assimilation will do crazy things to a people

>>508791915 (OP)
Opinion on Israel now

why do libtards think this is a good argument? they're essentially agreeing that mass immigration is terrible for the people that already live there.

>>508791915 (OP)
Injuns were right to fight for their people, but they lost. Simple as.

>>508791915 (OP)
Luckily we're better at keeping out invaders than the Indians were.

>>508791915 (OP)
Yeah sounds like the injuns got fucked over by mass immigration lets make sure we fuck them over again with even more mass immigration but this time lets make sure that we import people who not only don’t bring benefit but are also complete garbage.

>>508791915 (OP)
They were correct to fight back against invaders, but they seem more preoccupied with using their newly acquired horses and firearms to raid and enslave rival tribes.

The Pawnee tribe is a good example. Farmers. They didn't have anything of value to offer early european arms dealers and fur traders. The tribes closer to the great lakes and other major river trade routes instead got steel daggers and firearms. The eastern tribes descended on them with light cavalry, steel weapons and firearms against defenseless stone age farms. They were fucked over so badly that eruropeans thought the word "pawnee" meant "slave", because around the great lakes every tribe had pawnee slave girls.

This continued well through the 19th century as the moment one tribe gained an advantage over another they used it to fuck them over, rather than unite to form a nation to resist manifest destiny.

>>508791915 (OP)
So we can do these raids throughout Mexico now? Because the Comanches and apaches were raiding far outside their territory…

Also raping, skinning and murdering the immigrants is no approved boys!!!

>>508791915 (OP)
the world belongs to whoever can conquer it. woe to the vanquished

indians had every right to defend their lands, just as we do

they lost, though, and were scattered to the winds, never to rise again. their fate is exactly what awaits us if we don't secure spaces for ourselves & defend them to the death

I frequently see leftoids using native indians as some kind of "gotcha" for american whites who want strong borders, and they're too goddamn stupid to understand that what happened to the redskins is a cautionary tale of what will happen to white people if we don't become racist and create ethnostates

>>508791915 (OP)
I really don't get this. Natives like the Apache and Comanche raided the fuck out of settlers. In fact, that was a major reason Mexico invited Americans to settle.

>>508793016
The Cherokee exist precisely BECAUSE of that march. Those fucks chose the wrong side in the war and lost their land because of it. A tale as old as time.

>>508791915 (OP)
>defending their homeland from foreign invaders
Injuns literally did nothing wrong. They lost in the end, but at least they tried.

>>508791990
They didn't have horses either

>>508795837
Yep. The tribes near where I grew up were 100% thankful for the US military. They were being raided tortured and enslaved, so when the US came in and slaughtered the fuckers doing this AND gave them safety and their own land they were ecstatic!

But just like civil rights and BLM the pro native voices focus solely on the barbaric savage tribes of brutes and ignore ALL their innocent victims, be they white or native.

>>508796081
Lmao, they DID wrong. Instead of banding together and establishing their own state to negotiate as equals with the Europeans they descended into barbarity and low level systemic violence. Against a vastly superior force. And they refused to compromise. And were wiped out to next to nothing.

>>508795960
The Comanche were unironically using Ghenghis Khan style Calvary raids throughout the plans. Absolutely besting all forces. It wasn’t until the Texas rangers and us army went full on Mongolian with guns this time against them that they lost.

>>508795837
To some extent you're right, but the fact is that greater threats don't necessarily invalidate centuries old rivalries. Peaceful unification is also quite rare in history. If you look at the history of Germanic tribes such as Franks for example, they unified through bloody conquest before they took on the Romans, not peaceful coalitions. Peaceful coalition formations such as Arminius's coalition against the Romans were transient and ended as soon as the unifying figure died. Injuns failed not because they fought each other, but because the Europeans had every advantage in population, technology, and industry. A coalition could have formed a minor threat, but as I said unless it was formed through conquest it would be transient, and America was strong enough it would have defeated the coalition anyways.

>>508796481
europeans already perfected war over thousands of years, no amount of native american organization would have changed a thing

>>508796716
Yea that was a big "if", there is really no way they could have pulled it off in real life.
We always think of advancement in terms of arms and technology, but social organization and governments have advanced equally as much since the stone age. Stone age people really couldn't just form a coalition with a leadership council, equal representation or really anything besides a strong leader conquering them all, as you say. They couldn't look past old grudges and generations of bloodshed with each other.

And as you said, even a coalition could not have defeated america, but they would have had political power as a group instead of as isolated tribes and this could have worked towards a far more favourable outcome.

>>508796481
>Low level systemic violence
Unironically the correct strategy, it just failed. The Injuns had no chance of beating America in pitched battles. Guerilla warfare resulting in it becoming intenable to settle or occupy certain areas is usually the most effective strategy to push out a superior enemy. If the Injuns relied on a formal war rather than their historical sustained low level violence, they would have been defeated even faster. A formal war could only result in success if you got a combination of incredibly stupid American commanders combined with legendary Injun ones.

>>508793557
>Might Is Right
>Writes it under a pen name

>>508791915 (OP)
browns think they should be allowed in because of natives, who don't want browns here either
lol, get the fuck out

>>508791915 (OP)
this is exactly what they did
except the injuns got BTFO
all these lefties have a hard on for bloodshed, but if SHTF they'd be the first to whine to the UN

>>508798066
actually, we allied with a lot of tribes and killed their tribal enemies for them

>>508792099
They didn't even know what germs are and youre suggesting they waged biological war, lmao just fuck off you acrual tard

>>508791915 (OP)
Already did. Enjoy your marginal reserve, crippling substance abuse, and trafficking your bloodline.

>>508791915 (OP)
"Yeah they were right to try to stop getting ethnically replaced. Too bad for them they failed"

out of all the demographics that voted, the one with the largest margin for trump was native american voters
injuns do not like nonwhite illegal aliens

>>508791915 (OP)
That's based and American Indians were cool

What country were the reds living in?

>>508791990
>>508791915 (OP)
Redskins weren't here first

America is white name land, just like Europe.
We were here first and foolishly welcomed the redskins, then they killed all of the white people

>>508791915 (OP)
Have you ever met an Erie Indian? No, They were wiped out by the Seneca.

"After the Haudenosaunee (Seneca) routed the Erie in 1654 and 1656, the group dispersed. In 1680, a remnant group of Erie surrendered to the Seneca people. Erie descendants merged with Haudenosaunee in Ohio, who lived on the Upper Sandusky Reservation from 1817 to 1832, when Ohio forcibly removed its tribes to Indian Territory. These included the tribes who would form the present-day Seneca-Cayuga Nation in Oklahoma.

What little is known about them has been derived from oral history of other Native American tribes, archaeology, and comparisons with other Iroquoian peoples."

>>508794931
>I agree with the injuns, the red man did nothing wrong
There is no right or wrong. Only who wins the struggle. There are no rules. The rules are decided by who has the ability to inflict the most violence.

>>508791915 (OP)
They were right

every country should kick all the illegal immigrants, forbid illegal immigrants in and send fucking criminals to space.
every.single.one.

>>508791915 (OP)

Those wagon burning chugs better bring more than three since the guy with a rifle will mow them down. Indians are pathetic losers, both kinds.

>>508791990
>They didnt have the wheel ffs before they met the white man.

Did they ever even utilize the wheel after they learned about it? They never even recognized it's value.

>>508791915 (OP)
Injuns don't want any more immigrants. Respect to their wishes.

>>508793239

Highest IQ in the thread.

>>508792284
alaskan malamutes are adorable.

>>508793938
yeah whites on the right in this case

>>508791915 (OP)
So the artist is saying that if whites don't kill the refugees they will be replaced and erased? Sounds like they should fight harder then, good point.

>>508791915 (OP)
>relating the immigration debate to a struggle for dominance and conquest challenge: impossible

>>508792709
thats what second gen somalis say here, nigger boy

>>508791915 (OP)
This just proves that keeping immigration under control is necessary if you want to be in control of your land and destiny. If the injuns would have won then they could still have controlled all the land in North America.
Is the author of this "comic" retarded or something?

>>508791915 (OP)
I would be on the side of the rightoids if america was a white country. It's not so at this point it doesn't matter how many illegals are added to the country.

>>508791915 (OP)
Why would that upset me? We wanted similar things, they just failed.

>>508792739
You just know

>>508791915 (OP)
they lost and are also not native to the land they claim

>>508791915 (OP)
Seems like they had the right idea. Kind of an interesting comic though because horses aren't native to America, they were brought by Europeans.

Just compare their immigration policy to our own today.

If that does not make a point, pearls before swine.

>>508791915 (OP)
theyre lucky they just get sent home these days

>>508794187
If your castrated yourself you would be less likely to commit murder, so go ahead.

>>508791915 (OP)
And where are the injuns now? They are drunk on land given to them to shut the fuck up. Yeah let's have the same future as them except that brownoids won't give us anything and if they did it wouldn't be first world comforts.

The Injuns that refused to go on Andrew Jackson's Wild Ride to Nowhere and hid out in the woods were pretty based.

>>508791915 (OP)
Just as the red man has been subjugated so too will the white man, it is the fate of empires.

>>508799878
>recognize its value
white people utilizing the wheel got replaced faster than native americans. all without being constantly humiliated.

>>508791915 (OP)
>mass immigration is only bad when whites do it.
Unironically this meme is an argument against immigration if you empathize with the injuns beyond midwit
>hur dur whitey bad
Levels of thinking.

>>508793766
>And? Whst your point, faggot? White people fight each-other
the point is all people fight and all peoples have fought over land and resources since before we were even people. even animals fight over territory and resources.

so to pretend that only the EVIL WHITE COLONIZERS/SETTLERS are the only people one earth who went around and taking land from others is just gay liberal feel good hippy fantasy bullshit.

before europeans came to colonize the americas the "native" americans were constantly invading and conquering each other. in fact the tribal warfare was so constant and the territories were always changing hands that the native americans didnt even really have a concept of 'land ownership' or property rights or creating maps and borders.

the fact that europeans then came in and were just.... better at conquering and claiming land doesnt make europeans 'evil'. it just means they were better at doing - what every group of people throughout history has done - claiming land through force.

the natives should have fought harder/banded together sooner/evolved sooner/integrated better. they were unable to do any of the above so they have faded into history. thats just natural selection.

might makes right.

israel is proving this today in gaza.
russia is proving it in ukraine.
china is proving it in taiwan.
america proved it during our 200 years of expansion.

we are animals like any other, and survival of the fittest still applies. naive bleeding hearts like to think humanity is 'above' this, but we are not. "might makes right" is literally the driving force of our evolution and civilization. its an observable natural part of life seen in all aspects of nature across our whole world. from microscopic single celled organisms, to bugs, to beasts, and including ourselves. to deny this is to deny objective reality.

>>508801622
> red man had empire
Please do tell us more.

>>508801764
a white person made the comic and is saying raids are good. anything else is just pure delusional shit.

>>508801840
any body can use a gun, it takes no strength to wield a gun.

>>508791915 (OP)
>looks at modern day natives
Pretty strong argument to not accept immigration.

Even stronger considering they were immigrants themselves who decimated the original inhabitants.

>>508802011
original inhabitnants didnt exist and if they did they were useless

>>508798136
same in latin america. spaniards allied with some tribes to get rid of their enemies. which were cannibals, owned slaves and sacrificed people to demons.

the myth of the good savage is fake. the american continent was at war among itself when europeans arrived.

>>508792108
this and only this

>Without sounding mad
Pathetic 1pbtid faggot

Conflating conquering to immigration or vice versa is the most midwit shit I've ever witnessed and I've seen 30 years of liberal/Judaic language manipulation.

>>508802091
>and if they did they were useless
>admission that might makes right
Yes.

>>508791915 (OP)
These "raids" sucked and ultimately failed because it was being done by non-whites just like anything else. There you go.

>>508802001
>any body can use a gun, it takes no strength to wield a gun.
incorrect. you have clearly never wielded a gun. guns -especially historically - are heavy and ungainly. pulling the trigger on any gun requires a specific amount of 'trigger weight', which historically was higher and more difficult to pull. there are many guns where a woman, child, or weak wristed man can literally NOT pull the trigger or hold the gun up steadily enough to properly aim and fire.

secondly, being able to wield a gun is different from being able to BUILD a gun or repair a gun. many native america tribes ended up with rather large arsenals of stolen/traded for guns but because of their lack of knowledge and skill they could not maintain the guns for very long or repair them or create their own ammunition.

its not 'the gun' that conquered the native americans. it was the willpower of the white american settlers that conquered the natives. the guns were just one of the many advanced tools that helped them. alongside the railroad, the steam engine, dynamite, and many many other advanced technologies that allowed us white american settlers to flourish. coupled with the culture and beliefs of western civilization itself.

to claim 'the gun' is what conquered the native americans is a simplistic child-like take on the history of this continent.

>>508792262
If they chased Whites off they'd still be in the stone age what are you smoking?

>>508791915 (OP)
Why would I be mad? This proves I am right. Natives didn't stop invaders, now they are destroyed. This article encourages my anti-foreigner attitude and behavior.

>>508802794
corn was invented in the land thousands of years later. not just after some pansies died.

>>508802853
the "guns" was an idea people in Arabia were playing with due to marco polo or whatever. guns are an old world tool everyone knew trivialized battle. like crossbows.

>>508791915 (OP)
>admits that illegals are literally invaders
The proper response would be to arrest their 'generals', meaning bankers, lawyers, judges, politicians, doctors and others who led them into the USA and hold them without trial until further notice
That's how I would do it if I were in charge
1 day mass arrests on a Friday before the long weekend, all forgotten by Tuesday
clean slate, start fresh with better people

>>508802697
>Conflating conquering to immigration or vice versa is the most midwit shit I've ever witnessed and I've seen 30 years of liberal/Judaic language manipulation.
its actually not a midwit take, its a purposely constructed play-on-words to support a weak argument.

same with words like

'homophobia' to describe people against homosexuality. people are not "afraid" of faggots, they are disgusted by them. its a key difference. but by labeling it a 'phobia'(a phobia defined as an irrational fear) they labeled anyone against the gays as a 'mentally ill' person with "irrational fears" of gays - delegitimizing all the valid criticisms people have of homosexuals and their behavior.

same with the 'illegal alien' vs 'undocumented immigrant' word game. the new term 'undocumented immigrant' was purposely created and mass promoted to change the nature of the debate. 'these people arent criminals! they arent aliens! they are just immigrants who happen to not have the proper paperwork!'

and the same here. europeans did not 'immigrate' to america. they SETTLED/COLONIZED america. the definition of an immigrant is someone who leaves their homeland to go to another country's homeland and integrate into that society.

but that is NOT what european settlers in america did. europeans did not come over to america to join and integrate into native american society. europeans came to the americas to carve out their OWN new settlements and communities centered around western/european cultural and societial norms. they did NOT come to america to integrate into an existing society, they came to expand theirs.

sure, once the east coast of america was established and had a bunch of european communities/cities along the coastline we started getting what you could call 'immigrants' from europe - who left to come live in the new 'american' cities. but those came later -and they came to join white american society, not with the natives. key difference

settlers != immigrants

>>508791915 (OP)
Indians didn't have a modern liberal nation state, boomers suck at satire.

>>508791915 (OP)
So what's the point of this cartoon? Some basedboy liberal artist drew it thinking le hypocrisy bad or something. Indians lost and were killed and forced to reservations. If Europeans lose, same will happen to them. Why should any European man accept it?

>>508791990
Access to Hispanic land is NOT an entitlement.

>>508791915 (OP)
This argument is the strongest argument against immigration there is. It's the left tacitly admitting that immigration destroys the host nation/culture.

>>508804188
europeans already lost and there wont be handouts because none of you participated in anything.

>>508804227
it isn't hispanic land though. It hasn't been for over 100s of years. Just because the Spanish discovered the land first doesn't give them any entitlement.

>>508804188
The parallel is false because the Indians and Europeans were fighting a war between civilisations. Rejecting foreign parasites from our countries is not the same thing.

>>508791915 (OP)
sounds like they were facing an invasion and should have raided harder to stop it then huh

the actual natives were raiding and killing mexicans for literal centuries

>>508804526
you can always transition if youre unwilling to see things like a man.

>>508801840
Can you follow the conversion and the context, you useless cretin?
You chimped out in typical amerimutt fashion at a Danish gentlemen's comment pointing out that Indians would have been better off if they won.

>>508802823
Nah, they were pretty fucking horrifying at the time. Not related to the plains indians but read about the wars between the Spanish and the Mapuche in Chilean patagonia. They were so indominable that they still exist in large numbers in Patagonia because they scared the living shit out of European settlers.

>>508791915 (OP)
immigration raids are the moderate and humane approach

>>508805117
>Can you follow the conversion and the context, you useless cretin?
can you, ESL retart?
>pointing out that Indians would have been better off if they won.
but they didnt win. and could have never won. they didnt stand a chance. it was literally ordained by god/nature that they be displaced to make room for the superior/more evolved lifeform/civilization - as is infinitely demonstrated in all strata of life on this planet.

the indians could have never. ever won. so your point is not only irrelevant, but fucking stupid to even bother typing out.

>>508791915 (OP)
>if you don't do these raids you will get genocided and put in reservatums
>why are you not pro immigration?
So the left wants to put US citizens into reservatums after they get genocided?

>>508801840
“Might makes right” is the antithesis to Christianity and is quite literally the dogma of the Antichrist.

Ideologically it will lead you and your followers to Hell.

>>508792099
dogs are the niggers of the pet world

>>508805441
Alright, this is "how would you feel like if you didn't have breakfast today" situation, you are too low IQ to have a discussion with.

>>508804429
It is since the Founding of America... America was founded by Hispanics in 1493 AD.

Access to Hispanic land is NOT an entitlement.

>>508805733
AND THE WHITES REPLACED THE DOGS WITH WEAKER DOGS AND THEY STILL FUCKIN THEIR WIFE HAHAHAHA

>>508800007
>niggers do not document anything
>wow so peaceful we didn't find any records of war
>sir there aren't any records at all
>SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU RACIST PIECE OF SHIT
lol

>>508805733
mudslime detected. inhuman pieces of shit who hate the most loyal and faithful animal, which has been out friend since prehistoric times.
you uncivilized piece of shit.

>>508797758
what's your point?

>>508806864
whites are getting replaced and theyre too weak to throw a fight

>>508791915 (OP)
why are they riding horses if horses weren't available in the continent before europeans came?

>>508791915 (OP)
Whites are the modern day indians

>>508805574
>spictard brings christhartstainity out of nowhere

relax latrinxo

>>508807001
every post you've made in this thread is almost completely incomprehensible. you need to calm down otherwise your hearty diet of seed oil sponge bread and alcohol is gonna give you a heart attack from all the teeth gnashing you're doing

They're not killing, scalping, and raping the people they're raiding. They're reporting them back to their countries of origin like any other fucking country.

>>508807037
America was founded by Hispanics in 1493 AD.

Access to Hispanic land is NOT an entitlement.

>>508807176
America was founded by Hispanics in 1493 AD.

Access to Hispanic land is NOT an entitlement.

>>508791915 (OP)
Indians aren't people anyways.
They didn't talk through this like adult humans.
They went like "HUYAHAUHAAHAUAAUAHIAAIIAHAHAAEEEAAAHHTRRRR".

>>508792099
>jew worshipping whites.

as long as this meme exists you will never win this argument.

>>508791915 (OP)
Should BP and ICE should start scalping people to make it actually equivalent?

>>508793181
>The Chad impalee vs The Virgin Impaler

>>508807203
You will never be an Indigenous American. Hispanics STOLE that land.

>>508791915 (OP)
They definitely liked doing this

>>508791915 (OP)
It's too late to undo what happened to the Indians, but why would we let something even remotely similar happen to us?

>>508791915 (OP)
The entire history of native tribes is conquering eachothers land though.

>>508791990
They didn't have horses, but they did have canoes to trade up and down rivers with.

>>508791915 (OP)
>How do you respond without sounding mad?

what was done to the injuns is the perfect reason to understand why mass immigration is 100% wrong

>>508807371
Just admit that you don't believe in higher powers and be done with it.
> hurr durr there are no plans lasting more than two generations
Faithless brainlet, that's what you are.

>>508793766
>most cereal killers have a high iq
That’s explains why it’s usually white men

>>508807495
Natives were made subjects of the Hispanic Monarchy, and by 1542 AD they had more rights than Spaniards. THEREFORE, all Natives are Spaniards, and all Spaniards are Native.

>>508807600
That stopped during the Pax Hispanica of the Hispanic Empire.

>>508807116
aint my fault if youre a fuckin retard

>>508795837
It makes me wonder, what if the Injuns got horses from the beginning?? The moment they got their hands on wild horses left by the Spanish, and tamed them, a who fucking POWDERKEG happened and the Injuns immediately started to form nations and territories, Apachees started fighting the Navajos, hunting bison become a sport, and the connection with the horse become like a spirit animal.

I feel like if they had gotten horses before they went extinct, Injuns would have been significantly far more advanced and superior than whites. Even with the limited shit they had they were already forming complex nation structures and communities, had sophisticated defensive compounds, and had hegemonies that the British who came over were comparing it as complex as the Romans like the Iriquos Confederacy that had a council like structure between 5 nation city states who came together to parlay what things needed to be done like a council or senate. Men ruled the wartime council, and women ruled the social aspect of the tribe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4gU2Tsv6hY

>>508805944
>>508806081
>>508806440
>>508806555
kek bretty guud

>>508808916
I guess it must be hard to come to terms with being a shitskin. I'm sure you've been hunched over your computer, thinking real hard of what to say, what to write, how to get your point across.

But at the end, you're just a mere shitskin. You have no humanity, you have no values, you are a worthless, degenerate, disgusting filthy creature, you're not eloquent, you're barely sapient, after all.

they tried

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Raid_of_1840

>>508791915 (OP)
Exactly. Look what happens when you lose that fight.
Genocided, forced onto a resveration at best.
Do you want Europeans genocided or forced onto reservations?
The Indians were attacked with biological warfare, even.
Is that what you want?

> the Brits are coming!
< the pricks?
> nnn-yes

It's all so tiresome

>>508809101
15 year old white girl is okay with me making her a single mom, what does that make white people?

>>508808965
>Significantly more advanced and superior to the whites

They were stone age retards given future technology (horses that benefited from thousands of years of breeding, guns, steel tools, and endless examples of how they can be applied, saving them generations of trial and error). They had ten thousand years to domesticate the buffalo, the moose, the deer, the wolf, the turkey, the duck. Their successes with animal husbandry were niche and pathetic until men that might as well have come from outer space handed them thousands of years of free progress and examples on how to apply it.

>>508808698
I'm sure those Natives you worked to death in silver mines would disagree with you.

>>508809835
No white man ever died in a mine.

>>508809748
>change the cleanest sources of protein on earth

Salt peter
Sugar
Charcoal

>>508809904
Encomienda system was wrong.

>>508809906
Yes nigger, that's why they didn't do it, they knew that in a thousand generations bison would be less nutritious.

>>508809716
nothing as your impotent fantasies have no effect on anything

>>508809998
idk its pretty easy to kill an animal with your bare hands and find out all you need to know.

>>508810152
yeah cant ever speak reality with you right

>>508810281
>saaar is true, me get all the wyt womyns

shitskins proving that there's no difference between shitskins, you're all the exact same

>>508793111
That repeating air rifle was never used on animals or indians. It was a toy, with the power of a .22LR, that was used to amuse the natives.

>>508791990
>i am strong therefore i am right
/pol/ makes 10 threads a minute calling jews evil for killing palestinians but would never reflect and realize that they did the same.

>>508791915 (OP)
Why would anyone need to be mad. Everything was won through battle. Anyone is welcome to do the same and try taking it

>>508809986
>>508809904
>>508809835
The encomienda system comes from medieval Europe, and was only used in the beginning. While in used, up to HALF of encomenderos were from America, not Europe.

That system was setup to trade labor for protection (from other tribes).

>>508791915 (OP)
So it’s either the feather niggers are chuds or it’s okay to kill people flooding your territory.

>>508791915 (OP)
Simple: so you admit mass immigration is genocide, you just only oppose genocide when the victims are black? Racist.

>>508809908
Sugar?

>>508811094
They didn’t, they did it because they have a massive global funding/damage control network allowing them to gain endless support.

>>508791915 (OP)
White settlers weren't immigrating to Indian tribes.

>>508791915 (OP)
>Well you see, we conquered the feather niggers and claimed this land with blood and lead
>Also, the injuns raped and scalped their victims
>So if you really stand by that image you posted you, at the very bare minimum concede that it is morally correct for me to be able to shoot illegals if not worse. Really, you should appreciate how merciful and benevolent deportation raids are. Historically when there's been an ethno-national territory dispute it has pretty much always ended in one side being butchered. ESPECIALLY among injun tribes, even!
I bet the person who made that comic would compare Wounded Knee to a "peaceful protest".

>>508811901
instructions unclear
have a salty & sweet peter
requesting immediate evac

>>508791915 (OP)
>How do you respond without sounding mad?
Seems like an argument in favor of border controls.

>>508791915 (OP)
>How do you respond without sounding mad?
Behead the meme maker. They weren't doing anything useful with it anyway.

>>508791915 (OP)
How does pointing out people stealing land from a native population support the idea behind the cartoon. If anything it proves that immigration doesn't always leave to positive outcomes for both sides.

I'm glad we agree that immigration is terrible

If anything, native americans are a prime example why NOT to have open borders

>>508794107
technically they did
horses were abandoned en masse after some battles or when an army had to enter difficult terrain like the jungle. these horses wandered and bred.
since the american plains are so far from cortez's mexico, the time lapse was significant, measured in generations for the plains indians we know as horse masters/raiders (the comanche, etc)
>in my grandfather's generation the horses showed up. we mastered them and life has never been better.
>in my father's generation the disease showed up (via other natives). life is hard with inexplicable mass depopulation occurring everywhere.
>in my generation the white man showed up, finding us as sparsely populated horse nomads, masters of the plains.
most likely even the Indians believed they had always had horses at that point. most couldn't distinguish between "since my grandfather's time" and "since the beginning"

You lost, cope

Once again the left cannot use logic, so they just call us racist and hope we change our mind that way

>>508791915 (OP)
"Yes, exactly"

>>508791915 (OP)
>How do you respond without sounding mad?

The native's lands were conquered by foreigners. I'd say the comic isn't making the point it thinks it is.

>>508792538
They don't think

>>508791915 (OP)
They ran headfirst into Gatling guns. Pretty fucking retarded.
Definitely not comparable in the slightest.

>>508813354
>>508813461
> Whites killed everyone
> there was a civilization Whites replaced

>>508813676
This one is okay.

>>508793239
they domesticated turkeys retard

Once more showcasing the leftist incapacity to understand their opponents' positions. The injuns were justified in attempting to defend land they thought they had claim to. The injuns lost and by right of conquest the land is now ours. The lesson to take out of this story isn't that actually border controls are bad, it's that you don't want to lose to invaders.

>>508811094
jews have no "might"
they have scheming, corruption and degeneracy
the injuns didn't lose because white people subverted their ideology and had them pay for white people's causes
injuns lost, because they're faggots losers and should be treated as such.
also jews should be killed. EVERY single ONE

>>508792449
90% of natives were killed by disease
they had guns very early on
all of the so-called "greatest technology" was freely traded to them

Your granpappy was a pussy and didn't kill shit

>>508792709
Your people are getting pushed out by niggers and pajeets
Soon there won't be whitey left
while you dumbasses claim superiority on 4chan

>>508791990
They did have wheels on toys

>>508792732
stingrays have a better chance at killing shit in your country

>>508814576
We Whites(Anglos) already got pushed out by all the wog continentals trying to coattail our hype.
This is by design to cleanse our country of multiethnicity and RETVRN to our NATVRAL ANGLO ORDER
Your slave labor has made us exceedingly wealthy so we can invest in automation that will indeed entirely replace you.
How are you enjoying your tainted vaxx blood?
Need I remind you that India for the first time EVER is experiencing falling birth rates?
There is no claiming false superiority.
These are merely facts.

>>508791915 (OP)
>How do you respond without sounding mad?

deals a deal drinking bull

>>508802118
holy shit lol what is the holy inquisition, u were sacrificing people to ur kike demons as well kek

>>508791915 (OP)
whites have oldest remains and settlements on north america. we were here first you fucking spruce niggers. get the fuck out or die.

>>508791915 (OP)
This actually correctly depicts the events for once. They did exactly raid the settlers, it's just a matter who won.

>>508791915 (OP)
Which country did Whites immigrate to and when was it established?

>>508805733
t. Ass blasted cat.

>>508799119
So red man is superior?

>>508815648
Nope we enacted vengeance and won.

>>508792580
Wild buffalo or buffalo raised on a ranch that are used to peaceful humans who aren't running at them shrieking, stabbing, and surrounding them?
>>508805733
You're a nigger
>>508814315
Indians did get their "ideology" subverted after they lost when they were taught Christianity.
>>508792262
Honestly, yeah they would've been better off.

Bring up the many white settler women raped by natives, or how native reservations today in both the US and Canada have some of the highest rates of domestic violence and rape against women. It's really hard to paint them as innocent when somebody points out just how much raping they do.

>>508816411
>settlers
you mean illegals

>>508805574
That’s what I’m told by Christians all the time. They believe we conquered our lands, so we have aright to do with them as we please because ‘conquest’

>>508791915 (OP)
>Sending people home
>Killing, torturing, and disfiguring men, women, and children
Gosh, which is worse?

>>508816865
>which is worse?
invading a country that's not yours and illegally living there (your ancestors did this)

>>508816947
>country

>>508816947
>Open plains devoid of people
>Nomadic stone age wanderers passing through from time to time
>Country

>>508791915 (OP)
I’ve been saying this for years. My version: if you can’t control the land then it isn’t your land.
t- whiteboy rez neighbor

>>508791915 (OP)
Nothing wrong here. One group defending its interest against another.

>>508791915 (OP)
Comes to show what happens when you lose. Don't let it happen to you to.

>>508817193
Done him.
Germans and their diaspora seek to destroy this country

>>508792005
Yeah! Fuck those minivans!

>>508817193
>>Open plains devoid of people
>>Nomadic stone age wanderers passing through from time to time
but enough about the United states of America

>>508814220
Oh nice now just hook them up to a wagon and invent the wheel and they'll be in business. Or, maybe turkeys don't count as 'draft animals'. Good luck with your ESL classes though paco

>>508817278
By that logic Europe doesn't belong to Europeans because the Jews took it

>>508792580
I'd love to see you try that

>>508791915 (OP)
Fake Indians killed everyone and started mormonism on 911.