Thread 508800720

Why are young men voting against their best interests?

>>508800720 (OP)
Post link.

>>508800720 (OP)
>young men love shabbos like Joe Golem
of course faggots would think gay shit like that

>>508800720 (OP)
I studied the young men and i determined he was a mutt

>>508800720 (OP)
I don't vote at all. I just mock you stupid fucks on all sides since you are all so emotional, just like a bunch of women.

what is voting against our best interests, captain testosterone?

>>508800720 (OP)
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/03/democrats-young-men-study-00384370

>>508800720 (OP)
What exactly do you think those interests are?

>>508800954
I wonder if theyre posting here

>>508800795
OP is a faggot
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/03/democrats-young-men-study-00384370

They hate men. Especially White men. They just want you to vote for them and are concerned about how best to lie to you to get you to do that.

>>508800795
They can't.

>>508800720 (OP)
>hate men
>hate masculinity
>wonder why men have abandoned the democrats

>>508801016
Is this what's happening to 4chan

>>508800720 (OP)
Holy shit this is not that hard. If you're the party of gay buttsex and trannie storybook hour at school, you're gonna find it hard to attract young men because most young men grow up calling each other homos and faggots... and nobody wants to be a homo or faggot.

>>508800720 (OP)
You mean against YOUR best interests? The left hates young white men, and they make that plainly obvious. Why would they cuck themselves to make you happy?

>>508800720 (OP)
A bit more nuanced than this.
The fiat system is rigged, top to bottom.
Wages are going down compared to inflation and that's a structural design, financial repression.
The goal here is not to fix this problem, the goal here is how to place blame on something else and try to propagandize citizens against their interests.
Only way to fix this is going back to sound money or bartering, anything outside their dollar system where they constantly devalue your dollar and they steal the value you lost.

>>508800720 (OP)
>not being a shitbag commie fuckhead is "voting against your best interests"
And you would know what IS "in their best interests"?

>>508800720 (OP)
THE PARTY OF ESTROGEN CANT WIN MEN

IMAGINE BEING A LEFTOID (MALE)
OOF

>>508800720 (OP)
How are faggots and trannies in my best interests?

>>508800720 (OP)
they want you enslaved to the third world and women who make bad decisions. 80% of jobs in US are fake

>>508800720 (OP)
>Why are young men voting against their best interests?
they don't. it's all rigged.

>>508800720 (OP)
>The group has a two-year, $20 million budget to study young men and how Democrats can reach them. The results of an initial round of research shared exclusively with POLITICO — including 30 focus groups and a national media consumption survey — found many young men believe that “neither party has our back,” as one Black man from Georgia said in a focus group. Participants described the Democratic Party as overly-scripted and cautious, while Republicans are seen as confident and unafraid to offend.
Jesus Christ, these retarded fucks needed to spend that much time and money to realise if you promote weakness whilst constantly marginalising men that those same men aren't going to be interested in your party?
Fucking retards. Nice grift though. I'd love to run one of these think tanks that takes millions from fools to tell them obvious shit.

>>508801026
>not an archive
so are you
https://archive.is/dJakC

>>508800720 (OP)
Oh God read the article. They did 30 fucking focus groups and the FIRST FUCKING PERSON THEY QUOTE is a nigger from Georgia kek.
STILL missing the point. It's not the niggers you need to convince holy shit

>>508800720 (OP)
>study young man
top kek
They have no idea what they are doing

>>508800720 (OP)
Democrats have pandered to women and faggots for decades now and they wonder why zoomers hate them.

>>508801016
First guy they cite: A black man.
>the state of things

>>508801642
touché

>>508801543
The democrats are pathologically incapable of not constantly pushing minorities in everyone's face.

>>508800720 (OP)
>voting

>>508801683
its over

>>508800720 (OP)
>white people is all da pwobwems in da world!
>heeey why u guis no vote for us!?!?
shitlibs, never cease to amaze in how fucking retarded they are, no wonder they pull so many female votes.

>>508800965
Your best interests are 4 billion african, indian, and middle eastern men ages 17-25 being imported into your country while you pay for it.

>>508800720 (OP)
>"How do we reach men?" democrats ask after launching final white male in DNC leadership into the sun

>>508801016
>20 Million
I (and everyone /here/) could tell them more substantial information on the topic than this study will grant them for free.
Money isn't the issue it seems, they are just that incapable of understanding.

>>508800720 (OP)
The fact that they even need to ask, is hilarious. You have literally nothing to offer a straight man, much less a white straight man as a political party.

>>508801748
Here's one who SEEMS like he gets it but doesn't seem to think it's a problem
>“The Democratic Party is missing that we’re not going to be able to message our way out of these deep problems men are facing, starting with the fact that they know the Democratic Party doesn’t really like or respect them,” said Ross Morales Rocketto, a Democratic strategist who’s also focused on researching men but isn’t involved in the project. “It’s really easy for Republicans to play off the politics of grievance.”
You'd think starting off by suggesting they stop hating men would be wise but I guess that's not what you pay strategists for

>>508800720 (OP)
the liberals may never know

whats with the mental gymnastics? you dont need to spend 20 million tax dollars to figure out that young men simply want a future in the land they inherited instead of being forced to share it with millions of fags from all over the world.

its extremely corrupt to waste all that money on a simple question like that. just fix immigration and you get my vote its that fucking easy. but thats not what youre asking for, what youre actually asking is: how can we do whatever the fuck we want and still get the young male vote? well fuck you i dont give a fuck about you and i never will. usa or not

Remember how they were spamming white men are done and the past, and they just need to get used to becoming a minority?

Seems like they pulled the trigger a bit too early on that one Kek

Now the cats out the bag it’s a bit awkward for them I guess

>>508802777
I still remember all the pro-tranny spam threads back in 2018
I wonder where they've gone

They will never change their policies. They think it's all about messaging and marketing. They basically think if Kamala went on Joe Rogan she would have won

>>508800954
They spent $20 million to find this out:

>The focus groups found that young men feel they are in crisis: stressed, ashamed and confused over what it means to be a man in 2025. They vented about conflicting cultural messages of masculinity that put them in a “no-win situation around the meaning of ‘a man,’” according to the SAM project memo.
>They described how the Covid pandemic left them isolated and socially disconnected. They also said they now feel overwhelmed by economic anxiety, making “traditional milestones,” like buying a home or saving for kids’ college, “feel impossible,” an analysis of the research said.

>>508800720 (OP)
>Ilyse Hogue, who co-founded the Speaking with American Men project
early life checks out, its our old buddy Esau gambit

>>508801683
they're terrified of the slaves leaving the plantation
LBJ promised to have niggers voting blue for 200 years

>>508800720 (OP)
They just want a daddy.
And Trump is that daddy.

>>508800720 (OP)
They made women undatable and gave them preference in job positions we typically work, which makes us undatable. They single handedly destroyed American culture.

>>508800954
What a total nothing article. What was the $20mil for? Messaging a couple latinos on discord? These people are beyond cooked. The only person with a brain is the one at the end who concedes “messaging will not win young males when they know implicitly the democrat party as a whole does not like them”.
This shit is honestly more embarassing than “pokemon go to the polls”

>>508802471
Nah it's too late, nobody would be fooled by that. They already tried it, too. Remember White Dudes For Harris? The best they can do is sneering mockery where they don't even hide their contempt and hatred.

>>508803565
Who would have thought destroying marriage and chasing men from the home would have consequences? Imagine that!

>>508803584
feminism is just more Jewish subversion death cult bullshit, and you assholes fell for it like many snake oil salesman dumbshits.

>>508803606
>What was the $20mil for?
for jews see
>>508803085

its brilliant, how to make 20 mil for something that a.i. could answer in its sleep. see this is why they are rich to begin with they know how to leech like pros

The left is absolutely flabbergasted any time a non-White person, woman, or member of the LGBTQIA+ community votes Republican because they think that the Republican Party is obviously extremely hostile towards them. They regularly call them race traitors, gender traitors, insane morons, et cetera. But they're also calling on White people and males, especially the combination of the two, to help them tear down Whiteness and the patriarchy. And so the left has created a narrative where any non-White person, woman, or LGBTQIA+ person that votes right is a traitor, while simultaneously angrily demanding that straight White males obediently and militantly betray their own race and gender. They literally want us to be opposed to protecting and advancing our own interests - which no other group of people has been expected to do in all of human history. It literally goes against millions of years of hardwired survival instincts that were selected for by Darwinian evolution. The left hates us with a literal genocidal passion, and so no shit we're not going to vote for them.

>>508800720 (OP)
Say what you want about Democrats but their absolute lack of self-awareness might actually be their super power.

They basically manifest everything in their platform into existence the same way Orks in 40k make their guns work. They just believe really really hard that they work to the point if you pick up a Shoota it's gonna blow up in your face because you didn't, "Believe."

>>508800720 (OP)
Men are done with identity politics.

>>508802773
>whats with the mental gymnastics? you dont need to spend 20 million tax dollars to figure out that young men simply want a future in the land they inherited instead of being forced to share it with millions of fags from all over the world.
they "spent" 20 million dollars on 30 focus groups and an internet survey. sure. right. this is called money laundering scheme. some genius pocketed 19.9+ million dollars and held a few 'focus groups' as a cover. pretty impressive grift actually.

>>508801487
tl;dr: all concerns are dismissed as insecurity and personal failings, solution is to shill harder

>>508800853
>Joe Golem
All these people are compromised and if they manage to get organically popular and aren’t somehow they soon will be

>>508800720 (OP)
A whole generation was basically raised on Fight Club and The Matrix, what do you expect?

>>508800954
let's archive that
https://archive.is/dJakC

>>508800720 (OP)
My best interest is owning libtards

>>508800720 (OP)
Do they really need to hire niggers to study why i would write "nigger"? Is it that big of a mystery scientists need to be involved? male mind can be understood by a baby as its primal and straight forward. Even when a male is killing a woman, it is usually very easy to understand the motivation and why it is happening.

In a big corporation, where I work as an Engineering manager, it becomes hard to motivate engineers. There are so many fake jobs to cater to women, it's unreal. I see it everyday, where a women can say that she is not a technical person, but has power to make huge decisions, despite not understanding what it will do. How do I tell my engineers that they must follow their strategy, else they risk losing their jobs?

>>508800720 (OP)
>voting Dem is in the interest of young male voters
Lol, lmao perhaps.

>>508805849
do you do agile/scrum?

>>508800720 (OP)

the audacity of those ppl to kick young men to virtual worlds, then hound them there AND want their support

in the end men are just more resistant to the life of being cattle. it s no wonder for good or bad men try to leverage risk

Capped for your pleasure

>>508805849
>How do I tell my engineers that they must follow their strategy, else they risk losing their jobs?

"We all know its bullshit, so just roll with it, we are here only to get the paycheck anyway."

>>508805760
The axiom that they are working from is that center-left progressive globalism is the objective, incontrovertible truth. From this follows the conclusion that all opposition to it must just be some form of cope or seething. This is almost always articulated in one of two ways:
>1) You are from a privileged demographic and all your opposition to us is rooted in a selfish desire to protect your status
>2) You are too stupid and / or lazy to socioeconomically compete, so you're blaming your betters
This is why the arch-villain in these stories is always "mediocre white men", but there are so many different layers to the oppression hierarchy that unless you're the famous "gay trans disabled muslim immigrant black woman" they can always figure out a way to be similarly dismissive

>>508803073
I could have told them that for free. I wouldn’t though, I’d tell them to go fuck themselves.

>>508800720 (OP)
Wut?
There is literally no party in this country which actually represents the interests of men, let alone White men. We have NO opportunity to vote in our own interests and no amount of gaslighting will make the woke feminism shit look like our own interests.

>>508800720 (OP)
What interest, they're very open about discriminating against white men in hiring practices and higher education placements

>>508806340
thanks anon

here's a cheat sheet retards
>deport illegals
>tax remittances
>make homes affordable so people have families
>put the feminist shit away it has destroyed gender relations and created incels
>ban onlyfans and all other e-whoring platforms
>>start having preference white men for jobs not dei hires

>>508806668
well good job to them and their future failures. just start fixing elections and have 150% vote participation. it is the only way for the majority to vote for you. Democracy is a scam anyway, so you may as well have 150% of the population voting for party A and 130% for party B. Whoever printed more votes should be the winner as they obviously have better printers.

>>508806991
"Stop actively discriminating against white men" is not the same as "DEI but for white ppl".

>>508801165
I have CERTAINLY noticed a huge uptick in "feminism defense force" posting that ive never really seen before on the chans in these numbers over the years. Fucking weird that instead of trying to appeal to us or anything, that theyre sending shills to defend feminist ideology. Ridiculous.

>>508803606
>What was the $20mil for?
Money laundering. Duh.

>>508801543
>>508801683
to be fair they lost Georgia because of a shift in the black vote, but they're so racism avoidant that they don't think to focus on the majority of men (whites)

>>508800720 (OP)
you should have posted the link faggot.

basically young men of all races view the democratic party as weak and not speaking to their needs.

of all young men only 27% id as democrats. it's a huge problem and the democratic party is at risk losing them. basically democrats are starting to realize that young men know the democratic party doesn't respect them or really care about them at all.

they don't care about the democrats bringing out middle aged celebs like Beyonce and Lady Gaga. so their plan is to use influencers on discord, twitch, and youtube. they're also going to put more ads in video games and shit like that.

it's more about the democrats being seen as condescending pussies more than anything else.


what democrats don't understand it's isn't going to help. young men of color aren't going to associate themselves with trannies and homo shit. you can mock their masculinity, but it isn't going to help. since tranny and homo shit is a pillar of the democratic party, they won't abandon it but that won't happen.

democrats should focus on white numales because those male feminist types are more suspectable to the brand. and they shouldn't worry about most young men, they'll just not vote.

>>508803606
the $20 mill was a circlejerk money laundering scam. It doesn't cost you $20 million to pay 10 people to go read reddit, twitter and 4chan and watch manosphere youtube videos to figure out what you're fucking missing about the desires and needs of the men who vote republican.

>>508805611
Based and clickdenial pilled.

>>508800720 (OP)
Why is this a contentious topic? Why is the american government still in power while their male population malds and moans about inequality and replacement? Shit would have hit the fan already had the western man any discernable testosterone amount and yet they squable and engage in the most gay and superficial arguments. This cycle is beyond repair bruh.

>>508807150
k lose again

>found many young men believe that “neither party has our back,” as one Black man from Georgia said
They didnt ask any white men, did they?
They capitalized black too, woke bull fucking shit
They're focused on all the wrong things and its fucking retarded.

>“The Democratic Party is missing that we’re not going to be able to message our way out of these deep problems men are facing, starting with the fact that they know the Democratic Party doesn’t really like or respect them,” said Ross Morales Rocketto, a Democratic strategist
Wait a fucking second. Is this Ross asshole openly admitting that we know they dont like or respect us and that this is a problem because they dont intend to start? Holy FUCK

>>508807150
"Race blind meritocracy" is a delusion espoused only by white people still clinging to the fantasy that tribalism can be extirpated from humans and non-whites who can see the writing on the wall once they wake up from it

>>508800720 (OP)
The Democratic party can not advocate feminism while also trying to reach men and support them.
They don't go hand in hand they are contrary.
Feminism may have empowered women but it also debased men. That's actually the primary problem.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Either you advocate feminism or you don't.
If you advocate it you place women and their needs above men, and ignore men.
That's what feminism is.
At this point feminists and Democrats have forgotten men to such an extent, they have to have study groups try to figure out what makes men tick because they have no fucking idea.
It's been a long age since anyone gave attention to men such that especially if you're a Democrat you have NO IDEA how men think, what motivates us, anything about men.
Did you know there's no term for a male version of feminism? Look it up. There's not anything.
In any case, you have to tear down feminism and preach the contrary, and then? You can win men back but then you lose the women.

>>508802938
>I wonder where they've gone

>>508800720 (OP)

>You know why I don't like you, Chris? Because you're the kind of guy who, if someone didn't like him, would take him for a walk in the park and ask him why. You're a pussy.

>>508807885
I've seen a lot of jeets posting that exact thing too

>men’s support for Kamala Harris dropped by 6 points, winning just 42 percent of men — the lowest on record in recent elections.
>That gap became even more pronounced among 18- and 29-year-olds. Just 46 percent of young men voted for Harris in 2024.
> 42 percent of men
>gap became even more pronounced
>46 percent of young men

U fookin wat m8? Did the bot they used to write thebarticle dun gooff because it can't into maths or am I missing something here?

>>508807945
kek

>>508807885
Ending the H1B program would make race and gender agnostic application processes fair again. It would make meritocracy possible.

>>508800720 (OP)
>study on how to reach young men
>party becomes antisemitic

Hmmmmm.....

>>508800720 (OP)
>why do these people we constantly demonize hate us?

>>508800720 (OP)
you can study my dick you nasty whore, ya hear me?

>>508800720 (OP)
They want to accelerate

>>508800720 (OP)
Men don't like the dems because they're always nagging about stupid shit. It's just that simple. Not that the republicans are any better--most of them are also naggers. Even Trump nags sometimes, but not nearly as much as usual politicians. That's why men like Trump. Also, Trump is good playing the normal guy. What does a normal man want? He wants to be loved by his friends and hated by his enemies. Trump taps into that.

>>508808513
She will eat your dick, but she's gonna cook it first.

>>508800877
>Young Men
>He

Maybe you should study English more,jeet

>>508801487
(you)

>>508804574
Especially feminism

>>508804993
you didnt read the article or youre retarded

>>508809840
>I have no idea what tl;dr means

>>508809932
"tl;dr:" implies "the too long, didnt read is"
unless you believe they said "tl;dr: here's my guess" which both of my statements still stand
retard

Until they can stop pushing young men into the arms of racists, they will never get them back. I doubt they can do this though. They’ve formed such an adversarial approach to young men that it’s almost become a cornerstone of their base.

Calling young men and young white men racist Nazi bigot facists sexists has the opposite intended effect. It pushes them away for reasons obvious. The signaling there is that “We don’t want you anyway”. They have pushed young men away from liberalism with a force so strong that it almost ripped the fabric of the country apart.

They don’t want to change their view. They would rather force a narrative that men are monsters rather than do anything to help them. And what is the end result? More monsters from their point of view. But you can’t unwind the Reddit/feminism male hate agenda. Young men can’t speak about it except in hushed tones or they get compared to Andrew Tates or Hitler or get called men’s rights activists. Now democrats have been scrambling for a year and a half trying to figure out how they lost the vote, and they can’t believe that it’s their entire messaging system that they’ve pushed and must be stepped back from.

It’s especially dangerous because liberals and police don’t like angry men. They don’t like a frustrated man, they immediately blame the man and take all social responsibility or environmental effects out of the equation. Everyone can get help except for this particular group.

But they don’t realize, especially the older generations, how miserable life is for young men. They cannot understand, and are willing to fight tooth and nail to blame young men despite them not growing up in the same environment or situations or economic crumbling with hardcore porn and race fetishization and onlyfans and tik tok and instagram stars where the new gold standard is to be a rich streamer or YouTuber or comedian or what have you. Young men need help, not vilification.

>>508801035
They're not going to meme their way out of this hole. They are actually going to have to produce. Even gay males are having Tranny nigger fatigue

>>508800720 (OP)
Because they think the alpha chad grindset entrepreneur life is cool and more protected under Trump and generally are free market libertarians at heart who don't think the government is capable of doing anything for them.

>>508800954
They are just making economically minded voting into a gender issue, this is poz

>>508810192
My sister is an ultra-lib who lives in Portland. I was looking at her Instagram and I noticed the type of men she hangs out with. Doughy, meek looking manlets with faggy little mustaches and little-boy style baseball hats. They have a permanent cucked grin on their faces, like a dog in submission. Meanwhile my sister and her friends have a masculine posture and these aggressive, smug expressions on their faces in all the photos. Orwellian role-reversal was always the plan.

>>508800720 (OP)
Because allegedly voting in our "best interests" has been nothing but a detriment. The thing they just can't seem to grasp or willingly ignore is that men are struggling pointlessly. There is absolutely no reward for their struggles or efforts, in fact their is only punishment and the only thing men get when they bring it up is the usual go fuck yourself. Why would anyone with a shred of dignity continue to go along with this? At least boomers were rewarded and glazed for doing fuck all, hence why they were easy to control. If you want complacent slaves you have to treat them like kings, not like animals.

>>508806177
That looks gay af. Is that what 'scrumming' is?

>>508810192
Well written and on point anon.
Too bad they aren't listening

>>508810680
>men run country
>men rule fashion
>men choose to be fags in Portland
OMG SO ORWELLIAN

>>508801026
What happens when the only inevitable conclusion is that they were just wrong?

>>508800720 (OP)
>sobering results
Fuck jews

>>508811052
Tits or GTFO, Shirley.

>>508801223
there is hope yet

>>508811232
( o )( o )
Orwellian tits.

>>508800720 (OP)
If you have to unironically ‘study young men’ you are literally retarded. Just putting those specific words together in that order should qualify you for nothing more than permanent disability benefits for life because you are an actual fucking vegetable.

>>508800720 (OP)
>Why are young men voting against their best interests?
Anyone who uses this phrase should be banned for life from ever voting again.
The whole idea that you should vote based on what kind of me me me gibs you can get is why mass democracy and universal suffrage is inevitably an abject failure.
It only works when the people given the power to vote do so based on what is best for the country as a whole, not themselves as greedy individuals.

>>508800720 (OP)
Why don't they just ask? They already make threads here to post propaganda. Just make some asking whatever is they want to know.

>>508800720 (OP)
>Why are young men voting against their best interests?
Because they are not offered an alternative that supports their interests.

>>508803606
It’s no joke, either. They truly do hate white men. The only, and I mean only, thing that makes a white fella kosher to them is butt stuff. If you’re white and don’t do butt stuff, you’re defacto the enemy that must be attacked and undermined at every turn.

>>508810680
I’ve noticed this too. It’s almost like an autogynophilic switch between the genders. Women act like men because they’re attracted to men and how they act, and men act more like women because they’re either attracted to women or because they’re fearful of being ripped apart by society. It’s a castrating society. If you’re not a submissive little dog you get pulled into the social grinder. Show some teeth or some fangs and you’re hauled into an HR room, fired, sent to jail, ostracized from friend groups, called this, called that.

You know what it reminds me of? Back in the days of slavery black men heads of the house had to be pushed down by slave owners in order to keep the whole family submissive. What came out of it was the strong black woman who had to take charge much of the time due to the male lead of the house being shattered into submission through whippings and fear and starvation. So black women stepped up because they were less of an immediate target due to not being men. The impact was so strong that even 200 years later black women are the strong leads of most black households. That’s where the strong sassy black woman came from, because if they didn’t stand up for themselves as the woman, the broken men would have to bear all the burden of keeping the family together.

The male is such a threatening figure throughout all of history. That’s why pharaohs wanted to kill the first born sons of their slaves, because a male can grow up to be a soldier.

We don’t really look at it like this as the younger generation, but older generations are far more quick to press the boot on the neck of any perceived threat. Young men sense this tension and have to tone down themselves severely to the point where they’re the submissive dog.

Neither side actually cares about men, they just want footsoldiers and taxable paypigs.

How do we reach these kids?

>>508801543
>STILL missing the point. It's not the niggers you need to convince holy shit

IkR, it was fucking deliberate. Notice the umbrella statement:
>young men
How many blacks and Latino males did Trump snatch up?
Black and Latino males have been the only testosterone in that party since the 80s. Now that they are losing those vote its,
>>we need to bring back young men.
Still don't give a rats ass about white dudes. They've turn white men ino a pariah

>>508804314
It literally is insane and farsical. But it’s imploding in real time. It truly is coming apart at the seams.

>>508800720 (OP)

>young men
>post photo of 60yr old boomer

>>508801026
So I read the article and the DNC is 100% toast. At no point do they even consider that it is their policies which are to blame. They think it's all messaging and fee fees

>>508812052
I reluctantly agree with you. Living in a liberal city, the white male self hatred is through the roof. Either bisexual drug addict, troon, total chud, or bro. The cultural climate has visibly polarized in the last decade. Most white men I meet in public are seemingly in a race to share social proof.

>>508809840
No, I did. They don't say it explicitly, obviously, but the purpose of using language like
>economic anxieties
>feelings of crisis
>stressed, ashamed and confused
Is to reject the idea that any of their complaints are legitimate and not just, essentially, seething and coping. What they subtextually believe is that "these entitled, fragile masculinity little boys are just mad that they can't skate by on their male privilege anymore", and thus the solution to winning them over is basically to just convince them to stop being such whiny babies who are afraid of female success

>>508812094
Men LARPing as boys so they can get a crumb of pussy from women LARPing as men. 2+2=5

They can go check out the hundreds or even thousands of MGTOW content creators or just ask the average fucking guy outside of NYC, Chicago, LA, or SF

>>508800720 (OP)
>Why are young men voting against their best interests?
>get fit
>pray God
>stay healthy
how is this against their interests?

>>508801165
They 100% are and they’re doing it mostly to learn arguments. Not to actually figure out how people think or examine patterns but to be able to preemptively call them out in hopes that saying “what’s 2+2 and if you say 4 you’re proving me right” will work. They can’t actually defend their thinking or logic so they just go for cheap gotchas that fail. And when they do they sperg out.

>>508812123
More immigration. And I suppose they could suck off billionaires and corporations harder

>>508806668
Literally everyone who is still part of the Left is completely oversocialized and sees everything through the lens of a perceived good, educated, intelligent, well-meaning, well-informed, sophisticated, cosmopolitan, good in-group vs a unintelligent, uneducated, misinformed, easily manipulated, unsophisticated, mean, greedy, racist, bad out-group. This belief undergirds everything they do and say.
It might be hard for the autismos here to understand, but the vast majority of people on the left aren't pro-tranny or pro-illegal or anti-Trump because they have carefully considered the issues and have logical, rational reasons for choosing that side. It's literally just because they think that all of the smart, intelligent, good people are pro-tranny or pro-illegal, and since they like to think of themselves as a smart, intelligent, good person then they obviously must also be part of the pro-tranny pro-illegal in-group.
They believe that it is not possible for a intelligent, well-informed, rational person to genuinely be a Republican or have right-wing beliefs. They believe that every single person who voted for Trump is either an inherently bad person, or they were brainwashed and manipulated into voting that way and supporting MAGA or whatever.
The cannot even comprehend the idea that sane, normal, intelligent people do not vote for Democrats because they completely disagree and oppose the idealogy and platform of the Democratic party and Democrat politicians, because that would shatter their core presupposition in a good, smart, in-group voting for Democrats and a bad, stupid, out-group voting for GOP. And that is a huge problem because that presupposition is the entire reason why they took left-wing positions on these issues in the first place.

>>508807173
lol. Me too. I know what it’s about and it’s supremely pathetic. We’ve stared down Mossad unit 8200 and wiped the floor with them. And now this coven of malicious hags from Jezebel.com think they’re going to conduct “outreach” to white men in the form of fatuous psyops, insults and provocations?
I think their overarching strategy is to make us as loathsome, insecure, self hating and spiteful as they are. I think they intend to covert us. They don’t seem to understand that we value our sense of decency and honor. Their view of things and animating spirit is one of self hatred and shame.
The more who filter in the more we will fundamentally change. They will not come away from pol unscathed.

>>508800720 (OP)
>begging the question

>>508812865
>genuine on arguments
>on 4chan

>repeal all gun laws
>close the border
>repeal no fault divorce and alimony
>bring jobs back
Boom you just got the male vote forever

>>508808359
Maybe they meant there was a bigger drop?

>>508801016
>$20mil to rip off a bunch of faggots and karens for a bullshit study
fuck! I am in the wrong career! I should go hit up the Dems for a job because apparently it's really that fucking easy

>>508810680
I hope your sister falls into a septic tank and drowns in shit

>>508812595
Literal victim culture
If they are just going for messaging at the very least they could for once acknowledge that women are way better off today then they ever been and have achieved more in the last 2 decades then anyone else.
>>the only white guys they Iike are the ones who re into butt stuff

Now they are losing them, not all gay dudes like all this tranny horse shit either
They think it's some conspiracy to convert gay cis males into troons

You have a meeting once a week and discuss what everyone is going to work on. More than likely you won’t end up working on any of that because you’ll be tasked with putting out today’s and tomororrow’s fires when they inevitably arrive. At least that’s what “scrum” was at my organization, it’s just a bullshit productivity philosophy that few orgs actually implement the way it is supposed to be.

>>508801016
>I wonder if theyre posting here

>>508812052
The parasites are in control

>>508813000
Anyone who has spent any time here knows that its MUCH more likely for /pol/ to change you than for you to change it. Autism walls this in some cases.

>>508813332
Me too.

>>508807173
>feminism defense force
The problem is that it's difficult to make any level-headed critique of feminism or gender relations without incel jihadists hijacking the conversation into their usual crypto-cuck fantasy "all women are whores who only want chad, they should all be locked in cages and be executed if they so much as make eye contact with a man who isn't their father before marriage" autism

>>508801181
about 10% genz does.

>>508805611
Checked and thank you for not being a faggot

>>508801223
The only way out of this is blood, and that won't happen.

Democrats recruited someone in charge of winning back young men! A morbidly obese feminist activist who wrote 15 books about abortions, equity and inclusion.

This is real and an actual thing they did unironically.

>>508811117
>What happens when the only inevitable conclusion is that they were just wrong?
Don't worry, they'll just blame men again

>>508813387
Men don’t want to feel guilty and they don’t want to feel like victims. Men want to be strong mentally and physically. They want to be desired, they want to feel like they’re protecting those they love and the things that are important to them. It’s really simple.

>>508800720 (OP)
Gay race communism isn’t in any man’s interest

>>508812963
Which is why they’ll start killing people eventually. They already it do it indirectly via Blacks and illegals, but in time they will insist you need to be sent to camps to be re-educated to fight “misinformation”, etc.

>>508811826
>Why don't they just ask?
Our honest responses are seen as an attack on something. "Why aren't men dating" gets a litany of responses like "Women suck now; dating market has been ruined; I refuse to date trannies" and to liberals with an innate assumption of male toxicity, all of those reasons look like attacks instead of unbiased observations of reality.

>>508813580
Holy SHIT yes. It gets to the point where I suspect theyre bad actors trying to derail any meaningful counter-feminism conversation. It's just SO fucking obtuse
>I cant have what I want so I'll rape and kill everything reeeeee bend, world, to my 4chan posts!
They have no intention of every being happy together with a woman. It's just hatehatehate, which has no place between men and women.

toxic attitudes, they are born wrong they have to be stopped being who they are and act against their own interests

>>508801016
They are spamming reddit. I know for a fact.

One figure they are using is bill burr. He has articles that come out that barely get interest in the real world yet they get thousands of upvotes in all different cross posted subs. Like this one

https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/1lko6t1/bill_burr_jokes_trump_deportations_erase/

This type of advertising and exposure costs money.

>>508812203
>Gen x
They re not the same
Ftfy

>>508800720 (OP)
How is active discrimination against young men in the interest of young men?
This is why the democrats will never get the vote of young men

>>508800954
> The group was founded by Hogue, the former president of NARAL (pro abortion); John Della Volpe, a pollster who specializes in Gen Z voters (was wrong every time); and former Texas Rep. Colin Allred, who unsuccessfully ran for Senate last year (clearly lost)

The fuck are they even doing?

>>508813580
You're right, so even calmly telling them that you've seen their miserable winecat futures, and you know a better path for them, is hand-waved away as mansplaining.
Many will hit the wall at light speed and blame men, again, in hindsight. There are already millions of lonely boomer cunts who "didn't need a man" and will die alone. This is their future.
So they can get fucked. You can't want something for someone who doesn't want it for themself.

>>508801237
>/pol
Possibly written by an actual ancientfag

>>508813291
>I should go hit up the Dems for a job because apparently it's really that fucking easy
You need to be one or some of the following: non-white, a woman, a dickless troon.

>>508800954
>“The Democratic Party is missing that we’re not going to be able to message our way out of these deep problems men are facing, starting with the fact that they know the Democratic Party doesn’t really like or respect them,” said Ross Morales Rocketto, a Democratic strategist

At least they're honest. Why the fuck would a young man vote for the "I hate men" party?

>>508807173
Yeah. I call them the WIDF

>>508812963
Look up that quote from Aldous Huxley where he says the surest way to win over common people is to promise the chance to mistreat people with good conscious. I’m on my phone rn otherwise I’d just post it.

>>508812127
>Latino males did Trump snatch up?
Many, that's how Trump won

>>508813886
>>508812963
>TND, TKD, etc posting all day on /pol/
>Trump gets elected and is more based than ever
>"OMG THEY'RE GOING TO KILL US"
This isn't a "young male" problem, this is a whiney retard problem.

>They believe that every single person who voted for Trump is either an inherently bad person, or they were brainwashed and manipulated into voting that way and supporting MAGA or whatever.
Like how the Hillary "basket of deplorables" quote was to speak to the obvious /ptg/ racists, not everyone who voted for Trump, but being anti-left and pro-right has you needing to frame the left as something worse than the right. So all of the obvious violent exclusion policy that makes up the right is downplayed while something a Clinton said is taken to mean Total Rightwing Death.

>>508800954
> Hogue said part of SAM’s mission “super charg[ing] social listening” and progressive influencers on Discord, Twitch and other platforms in their fundraising proposal.

Okay here is the real news. They sure as fuck are not going to reach conservative men by dumping money into progressive mouthpieces, so it’s just a slush fund for propaganda.

>>508813944
I feel like we see a lot of the worst examples they have to offer on the internet. You can meet totally normal women who don’t believe any of this crap and then hop onto any social media site and be face blasted by the most piggish behavior. Not to say overt feminist identifying women who bother other women with their feminism don’t exist in real life, but there are decent girls out there.

>>508800720 (OP)
>Hogue said. “Most people I talked to, Democratic operatives, have never heard of Red Pill Fitness, which is just huge online.”
Is "Red Pill Fitness" what keeps Republicans winning?

>>508800877
ME OWN FLESH N BLUD, A DISGOOSTIN FOOKIN INCEL, AND ME BLUDEH NEFFEW, HE'S DATIN A 17 YERS 11 MUNTHS 30 DAYS OLD LASS, AND AN 18 YERS 1 DAYS OLD... A FOOKIN DISGOOSTIN PEADO!!

>>508800720 (OP)
Democrats put 1% of the population as pillars of their political agendas (trannies and abortion havers) They arrogantly did that because they intended on rigging the election and flooding us with illegal voters.

>>508814499
its a half truth still, male and female interest are a zero sum game
they sacrifize society itself and men for their female voters and that for 100 years now

>>508803073
>They also said they now feel overwhelmed by economic anxiety, making “traditional milestones,” like buying a home or saving for kids’ college, “feel impossible,” an analysis of the research said.
So, what you're saying is, the democrats should focus on DEI and try to have more women talk to them about immigration.
Got it!

>>508815017
banking on the GOP being worse retards is the only choice and doing a communism

>>508815096
>banking on the GOP being worse retards is the only choice
Legitimately not a bad tactic desu

Op MAY be one of the people conducting the study

>Dont have answers
>Post on pol
>Study replies

>>508814846
Kamala didn't talk about trans issues and ignored them her whole campaign.

>>508813580
>>508813993
>>508814301
So glad I'm not the only one who thinks this, it's so easy to collapse into outright misogyny but that doesn't get us any further forward. We need to focus all pur efforts on attacking feminism, not women

>>508814818
Generally speaking there is something to lifting and fitness being right leaning. It's something you have to work hard for to achieve results, which leftoids do not like doing.

i saw a video about this and the first thing they interviewed were a bunch of baby face teenage mutts
i mean I guess that's what they want to go for but i don't think its gonna work out for them in the longrun

>>508814919
Female interests are directly detrimental to society in it's totality.
That's why every single successful society in the history of mankind limited women in some way.
They're extremely self interested

>>508815365
yeah but the news told me otherwise. and I'm a free thinker, so you know that I didn't just get comically duped

Their entire core belief revolves around disenfranchising young men to the benefit of everyone that is not them. The only young male support they'll garner is the young men that are way too faggy and scared to oppose them for fear of being labeled something mean.

>>508803073
>the Covid pandemic
The scamdemic. It was so fucking stupid. Even the proponents of the hoax admitted that they inflated deaths by including everyone who died WITH (as opposed to FROM) covid in their death tolls. Dr. Ezike Department of Public Health Director is on video admitting this in 2020. Look it up.

>>508800720 (OP)
Always lie to commies.
Double down when they question it.
Slap them when they become angry about it.
Lol in their faces when they begin to cry.

>>508815638
Hell, I'll post it now.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JaO2K89Sh90

>>508810192
Great post anon.

>>508812644
I don't think that the Democrats, or really any advocate of feminism, is prepared to admit that the failure of feminism is that it inevitably results in a zero sum game. Due to competition and limited resources, the gains of women really do come at the expense of men. Feminists have been in complete denial of this.

>>508815576
>bleeding heart liberals
>tax and spend democrats
>"no billionaires" Bernie
Male voters think it's cucked for Biden to put restrictions on overdraft fees for banks. Real male voters reverse those restrictions and be the brag about being bigger zionists than Biden and Kamalalah Ackbar.

>>508801237
>EXAMPLE of BOARD DILUTION
No 4 Innovative tactics are warranted
>>>508794702

>>508800954
>>508800720 (OP)
>Democrats can’t win these folks over if they’re not speaking the language that young men are speaking,” Hogue said. “Most people I talked to, Democratic operatives, have never heard of Red Pill Fitness, which is just huge online.
What's up my fellow Red Pill Fitness young men, want to vote for Hilldog in 2028?

>>508815314
Probably literally true, but the answers they get here will not be helpful to them, because it doesn't feed any narrative that they can pass to the higher-ups on an action-item list.

>>508815423
I love the company of good women. It feeds something in the soul that can't be replicated synthetically. But I loathe the company of shrill, knownothing feminists. You can't reason with someone who has been indoctrinated.

>>508801543
And yet even that negro was like
>ayo dees niggahs gay bruh

>>508813416
see
>>508815314

>>508815877
This is true of any form of identity politics, feminists are just unwilling to admit that that's all their ideology ultimately amounts to

>>508816104
they have to take women down a moderate peg, otherwise they will not be able to square the circle
its not in the cards thus liberalism rug pulled the men who backed it and it will end in either nationalism or communism

>>508802777
Trips of truth from Nordlandia

>>508805849
I run my own business as a consultant to these large corporations. Its incredible to me how many bullshit jobs are out there especially for women that amount to a few emails and nothing more. Meanwhile, I have multiple things that could be considered entire jobs handled automatically via scripts and programs that my wife and I have come up with, and I don’t have to pay anyone shit. Just myself. HS dropout, under 40, Doing around $400k this year in revenue. If you want to make more money, you’re never going to get rich working for someone else.

>>508803073
>317% increase
The housing market is so fraudulent it’s insane

>>508816457
hell yeah

>>508803565
That’s just homosexuals like yourself

>>508816457
HS dropout
Your sales job to be hired as a consultant ?
What industry ?

>>508807254
>a shift in the black vote
of fucking less than 5%
black males are the most consistent demographic of democratic voters

>>508801016
>>508802367
The gigagrift continues

>>508816487
More than half of that is inflation alone.

>>508816646
this is not true it is black women

>>508805611
based norgebot

>>508816646
Black Females
Not even close
90 percent plus every election

there was a brown/black male shift. too lazy to look up the percentages

>>508800720 (OP)
this doesn`t take a study
they`re awful, their policies are awful, their people are awful, their entire culture is awful. they are weird faggots and women and troons that hate men and when they win life gets worse for men. boomers are oblivious

>>508816879
the GOP does not care either or is actively as or more harmful, this is the only dynamic that keeps the democrats running

>>508806991
Bretty good. Ending all the gaslighting bullshit (ex. during covid) would also help.

>>508801165
see
>>508801237
no 4 and
>>508815314

>>508803073
>There's no jobs
>The housing market is a joke
>Impossible to live The American Dream
>Dating market is absolutely fucked too
>Every day see retards on the internet making millions
>Every day told you're the problem and prejudiced against at every turn
$20 million for what everyone already knows?
Money laundering says I

>>508807150
A few years back there was a trend in businesses to have blind interviews, (no names on the resume, no face to face) including hilariously orchestra try outs where one would not even hear the voice of the performer and only hear their performance
Well it was halted almost immediately due to the problematic hiring of mostly Huwhite and (north east) Asian men
Shocking I know

>>508816965
true, nobody cares. but its the difference between indifference and active vitriolic seething hatred. dems hate men. they are the party of hate

>>508816033
What in the fuck are you on about

>>508814627
Exactly my point, they don't care about all young men just the ones of a lighter shade they want towin back

>>508801016
Of course they're posting here, they're the ones desperately trying to convince you there is an anti woman psyop and to keep worshipping women so they can control yuo

>>508807945
I truly hope the literal faggot took the eternal advice of doing a flip

>>508816965
Republicans exist to create the illusion of choice

Rs hit a few hot topic issues with some meaningless results but it goes like this

If 0 is what we want and 10 is worse
dems push 10, Reps barely resist, end up at 5.
Dems then push 20, reps offer to move to 10 , get 15. Reps claim victory.
" see they wanted 20, we weren't going to let that happen !!!"

did their precious 20 million dollar study reveal to them that lgbtq children is very unpopular?

>>508814195
They have shills that say that abortion is good because it kills niggers because that polls well here. They're bots though lol or mostly bot-assisted.

this is all amateur hour, I did a deep dive into the data over years
here are my three core conclusions

1. female higher education above a 10% quota leads to below replacement birthrates irrespective of economic or religious factors since women spend 70% of their fertillity window in a class room

2. marriage dies as institution if men do not outearn women by 50% this is replicable globally, interpersonal and local

3. feminism is about two things and two things only: maximizing the female share of resources and minimizing female responsibillity, any seeming contradictions in feminist agitation or demands can be solved by parsing it through this lense

so what does this mean? well it means feminism and womanrights or even broader female higher education are mathematical dead already, the data shows their future today they are over
I do not know how they will end only that they will

>>508808444
Witness another trips of truth

>>508817459
true. what we are forgetting is it doesn't really matter if the democrats don't know how to reach men because at the worst all it does is give a little more power to republicans who are controlled opposition anyway. they win even if they lose you see

>>508817459
I call the GOP the ideological bad bank of they american regime, they store people and ideologies there to neuter them and make them ineffective

the US is run by the democrat party in every walk of life

>>508815423
This message right here is very important but I have no idea what to do with it
It'd be a better thing to post at the beginning of a woman thread and just "new incel thread just dropped"

>>508817250
The only ones in that "young Men" circle they even have getting back from Trump is possibly Latinos. But as always they'll fuck that up too. They really need to start taking notes from Bill Marher who's actually been the only sane lib shit on this particular issue and been on the frontlines of it. Of course again, they down play it.

>>508817702
bill maher is a zioheeb pervert who shares all of the libshit priors that make society not work

>>508817346
Its both
Women are given unfair advantage
and There is an anti woman psyop
Both create division between men and women
Men just need to stand up and demand fair treatment . some criticism of women is fair but there are good ones out there, no need to push them away in the struggle.
" We are men, we demand equal treatment under the law, we are going to be the leaders . Women who go against this are our enemy and will lose "

>>508809840
>A second Latino man from Las Vegas spoke admiringly of Trump and Andrew Tate, a controversial influencer who has been accused of rape and sex trafficking, as “always loved and hated, but they’re truthful, honest, to what they believe in.”
Just in case you forgot how disgusting men are.

they don`t want to change who they are to appeal to men. they want to change their marketing to trick men. and we all see it.

every single headline and comment in this image came from a democrat voter and i don`t need a source for that, we all know it.

the party of trans kids, dei initiatives, financial mismanagement, and radical feminism. young men arent into this and never will be, thats why dems hate men, especially straight white men who they demonize as the root of all evil but they still want their votes

dems wrote this

>>508811826
They asked a 30 year old NIGGER from Georgia bro!!! Meanwhile what about the other 86% of men in their e20s that are not Black. What about the 88% of men aged 15-19 that are also NOT Black???

>>508817819
the factions based on interest

women
capitalist
10-20% of men who can sidestep this crap by having money
90% of off the boat men who bailout feminism and profit personally

versus
80% of native men

the dynamic is so lopsided that advocacy, appeals to fairness or mercy will not do anything
you have to watch it go down and secure your own (if you can or want, you own the system nothing)

>>508810680
The Pill
In the drinking water and alters our hormones to be less masculine
Makes women more masculine

>>508817819
That's not a workable solution, it has been tried already and it failed.
Women were offered the olive branch and they used it to clean their assholes.
It's not workable inside a democratic country by any means.
Women as a group systematically vote against men

>>508814195
>group was founded by Hogue, the former president of NARAL (pro abortion)
>NARAL
Ex-wife's whore of best friend did a bunch of work with that bag of snakes. Beware of treacherous baby-killers.

>>508818043
White women in America voted over 50 percent for Trump

>>508817346
>trying to convince you theres an anti-woman psyop
I've seen this too! It baffles me every fucking time. Absolutely pathetic strategy

>>508800720 (OP)
>study young men
Bunch of creeps

>>508818150
the GOP is feminist and anti male

>>508817656
You have to find the men who are enabling this shitty behaviour from women and show them they're being manipulated, there's absolutely no point in trying to convert women, they have too much to lose from the current arrangement and will almost always double down and defend it (unfortunately they're often very good at it, too)

>>508818074
I did not offer an olive branch
I said tell everyone , libfag men too, how its going to be
Then back it up with organizing and social pressure. First you have to get men to actually get off their asses
Over half of White women voted Trump , that says something

>>508813580
>"all women are whores who only want chad
they are
>they should all be locked in cages and be executed if they so much as make eye contact with a man who isn't their father before marriage
evangelicals do that

>>508818074
Every country is different
But true
women should NOT have the right to vote

>>508817514
No there is actual evidence that abortion kills more browns. In fact, Asians are the highest in that demographic, mostly because Asian are always trying for anchor babies and citizenship. Even higher with in Asians, jeets if you can believe. A lot of them are in arrangened marriages and want out the minuet they become a us citizen and will kill off an y future Offspring with their jeet husband. Chinks and zips love to fuck white boys, gets pregnant in college so they can stay in the country. Then oncesthe green card is issued they can kill off the kid or keep it and divorce the husband and bring their whole extended brood over

>>508818321
>>508818362
Aristotle had it figured out. Democracy should be reserved to land owning men who share blood links with the people that they represent

>>508818262
I do not think advocacy can solve if because you can game out the factions and interests in this.
The people negatively affected do not have enough social capital to change it, mercy is not an option based on ruthless female self interest to the detriment of their children and society, society is sufficiently rich and organized to prevent violence from being able to change it.

Thus you have to watch it being gamed out.

>>508818074
Women just go along with whatever they think the group consensus is. Social media needs to be banned and people need to fucking talk to each other again.
That will never happen since billionaires use social media to manipulate everyone.
Either they'll get strung up and this shithole society will collapse or they'll replace all of us slaves with AI and start cloning themselves before getting skynetted.

>>508818238
Rs are worthless but you have to
read between the lines to get voter intent.
Trump voters tend toward a traditional family with a man at the head

>>508800720 (OP)
How does this even matter? When will these "young men" be a relevant portion of the overall voter base?
Never, that's right. The current generations will never have any say or relevance because they are outnumbered 3:1 by boomers and other shitheads.
>we need them to break the stalemate of retardation as shitforbrains magically all split their votes 50/50 for Republicans/Democrats because that's what democracy is all about.

>>508818362
every country is not different, I checked the global data you can have either female higher education above 10% or a sustainable birthrate not both

same for marriage, the moment women earn more than %50 of what men earn in the median marriage dies as institution

>>508810192
But they don’t think life for White men is miserable. This is the racial view that lies at the heart of dem politics. That to be born as a White man is so overpowered and personally fulfilling, that even stripping White men of the means to live life and have families is not enough. White men are still seen as too happy and satisfied with themselves because they are White. And kikes can’t stand it.

>>508804314
The Republican party is pro middle class, pro justice, and pro property rights (on it's face anyway)
That's attractive to people who have or wish to improve their lot.

>>508817041
>Insurance companies make everyone else pay for your lifestyle choices, i.e. if you have gay buttsex, chop your balls off and become a woman or are an illegal migrant driving around and have a car accident - woops, looks like everyone else will pay for that.
>Migrants working under the table illegally and employer preference for illegal workers or choosing to send business overseas moaning about tariffs for a few months because they might have to make a decision to bring their shameful work back to the West and have white americans working it with frustrating things such as worker rights and regulations
>illegal migrants and migrants enter the country and then start waving a different countries flag in various protests and acting violent whilst flagrantly ignoring the law & order system - interestingly they're aided by the government and anyone who complains or notices is arrested or called a nazi.

Yeah I think that about sums up the list of bullshit that everyone is sick to death of with democracy. There's also something about medical scams but I didn't want to write another line about that either so have a tweet about doctors using chatgpt because they're useless.

>>508818481
Thats what the Founding Fathers of America had written as law . Voting was limited to '" Land owning White Men of good character " They should have put it in the Constitution which is much harder to change.
They had read Aristotle for sure

>>508818499
GOP women voted against abortion, there is no negotiation on the women question they will never change and never give it up, womanrights will have to go back into the box for society and family to work out again

this is not an opinion it is what the global data and now 100 year record of feminism has cemented into stone

>>508806627
That gets old.

>>508815877
>>508813580
>>508813993
Ending the vote for women, ending affirmative action for women, making the workforce predominantly male, and therefore seeing a restoration of our old sexual shame culture where purity is integral is not going to be popular with right wing women, as evident in all right wing internet communities. It will inevitably be called "woman hate". Women are not going to tolerate a rollback of any the privileges accrued in the past century. However, until that rollback is achieved, society will remain fundamentally unhealthy. The primordial chaos of unleashed female sexuality acting in concert with the undiscerning male libido guarantees a gradual collectivization of nation and culture due to its inevitable consequences, among these the replacement of the family with the atomized individual.

What gets ignored in discussions here is that good women, by nature, are going to marry early. Most of /pol/'s discussions around women are about the 21-35 demographic of single women who represent available sexual partners, most of whom are not fit to marry. This, in addition to the genuine pathological hate among the dysfunctional, and the overly idealistic who believe pre-1900s sexuality was a Garden of Eden, make /pol/ appear more misogynistic than it actually is.

Honestly a compromise like Vance's solution of having only married people vote would solve 90% of the issues which the 19th amendment brought and would be more politically achievable.

>>508818650
like women they only see the top like 15% of white men and extrapolate their great lives to everyone else

Democrats could try to be more egalitarian.
Will jump up and down reeing about mah abortion rights but refuse to touch the subject of duped dad's, or forced fatherhood.

>>508808426
??? Only people who condemned the Kabuki Theater strike on Iran were Rand Paul, Thomas Massie, and the squad. Hakeem Jeffries came out to condemn only after the "ceasefire"

>>508800720 (OP)
>Hogue:
>“Young men also spoke of being invisible to the Democratic coalition, and so you’ve got this weak problem and then you’ve got this, ‘I don’t think they care about me’ problem, and I think the combination is kind of a killer.”
The analysts completely missed the message. It's not about being invisible to Democrats, it's about being Public Enemy #1 for nothing more than your skin and age.
Democrats have made it clear for 30 years but especially since Obama what they care about young men: pay taxes, go die for oil and some stanky used pussy, don't complain and be ready to never advance in anything because we've stacked all the corporate, government and academic decks against you. But keep voting blue no matter who.
>t. older guy who's been through this ringer from living in the ghetto

>>508801035
>>508801026
>>508801016
>>508800954
>>508800720 (OP)
I will vote for the New York Pakistani because jews hate him.

>>508818573
DIFFERENT by VOTING PATTERN for White Women

>>508818811
nah

>>508808359
Biden won 18-29 year old men by 13% Trump won them by by 8%

>>508818801
I will vote for democrats if they are anti Zionist and legalize prosties. Give more pussy then Ill vote for you

>>508813993
>It gets to the point where I suspect theyre bad actors trying to derail any meaningful counter-feminism conversation. It's just SO fucking obtuse
At least part of it is. Trannies do it because they want to groom people into their little castrati cult
>you'll never get a gf so just become a girl!
And pajeets do it as an attempt to D&C

>>508800720 (OP)
They should adopt a more libertarian mindset, encouraging men to live as they choose as long as they're not harming anyone, but they instead choose to demonize men and attack the very core of what it means to be a man.

Dems just don't have a "plantation" issue for white men.

For women, it's abortion. For blacks, it's soft-on-crime policies and police reform. For hispanics, its citizenship. For fags, it's constantly feeding into their hysteria and assuring them they're one election away from execution.

"Male pale and stale" cry the democrats, then wonder why white men have given up on their party. It's because all they have are lynchpin issues that keep the votes coming but all they actually want is the cushy job and the title. All of their policies make living in America worse and they still routinely get votes because they turned the base into cattle.

If there was ever an issue to lure in white men, it would be dealing with replacement migration and ending DEI. The final paragraph of the politico article grazes this point

>“The Democratic Party is missing that we’re not going to be able to message our way out of these deep problems men are facing, starting with the fact that they know the Democratic Party doesn’t really like or respect them,” said Ross Morales Rocketto, a Democratic strategist who’s also focused on researching men but isn’t involved in the project. “It’s really easy for Republicans to play off the politics of grievance.”

What he ignores of course is that Democrats are the party of EVERYONE ELSE'S grievances and they specifically chose to leave men of all races behind. When everyone other demographic is allegedly in the fight of their life, why did they choose to wheel out Mark Hammil to appeal to "white dudes" and assure them voting for a woman didn't make them a pussy?

Even David Hogg, who got ousted for trying to primary retarded cushy dems, had a really grim view that all it takes is beer sex and football to get men to fall in line.

They just need to die out.

>>508818801
>The analysts completely missed the message. It's not about being invisible to Democrats, it's about being Public Enemy #1 for nothing more than your skin and age.

This
BUT They have made it clear since the 90s. " we are going to represent women and minorities ", over and over

>>508818881
Clean up your own life before voting for the rest of us.

>>508818970
>For women, it's abortion.
I would not even say tht.
I would say it's about stays quo, women will give up ok everything to maintain their safety. They are afraid of right wing bucking the trend of globohomo, that pays them well because women need DEI or they will be forced to be housewives

>>508801683
That's the base of the democrap party.

>>508818970
they kicked hogg out explicit because of his race and gender lol
fundamentally they lost the right to even ask themselves any question about why they are under water with guys after that episode

>>508819044
I want free housing as well because housing is unaffordable

>>508816646
>>508816777
>>508816878
The demonrat party is the anti-White party, so its most dedicated adherents are also the most obvious.

nigger women
jews
mixed race mutts of either gender

>>508819132
No one will ever give it to you. They'll tell you that they will and then ignore you later at best. And kill you when you become a problem and aren't useful anymore.

>>508800720 (OP)
>Here's $10000000, figure out why the people we are fucking to death are so upset?

This is all performative, right? RIGHT?

>>508816878
>>508816777
shut the fuck up foreigners
youve never even talked to an american nigger in real life
barely any niggers under 35 fucking vote to begin with, of the ones that do, vote democrat
those "changes" in percentages are a fucking statistical error
and said statistics have shittier methodology than a 7th graders science project
voter information isnt discloseable
you cant run data on actual US votes because such data is literally against the law, all this data is second hand from people who didnt hang up the phone when they were randomly called

>>508818970
The democrats need to make housing cost $500/month flat rate.

>>508800720 (OP)
Because isn't about men democrats represent big tech corporations, illegal aliens and other fag shit. And not the working class, families and young men that's why

>>508813387
It’s not really about being gay or any sexual orientation. It’s about being submissive in social interactions. Even the men I know who are in exclusive heterosexual relationships act very feminine in group situations.

>>508819265
That's how a lot of these kike golems operate. But we will see if this Paki gets in New York and if he can do everything he said that he will.

>>508801016
>How do we appeal to young men while still being extremely gay, anti male, pro immigration, and pro whoredom
A Sisyphean task, it would seem.

>>508819265
It's also hilarious because the Zionists and Trump are backing India. And Pakis are against India. Pakistan and jeets hates each other

>>508819000
>BUT They have made it clear since the 90s. " we are going to represent women and minorities ", over and over
Indeed, message received, why would any man (not just a problematic White Man) vote for a party that will always side against them? If you are a white guy, why in fuck or hellfire would you vote for the party that wants you to be their tortured paypig forever?
Fuck. That.
>>508819132
There's no such thing. The closest to free housing is to be homeless or live out on BLM land.
>>508819277
No, the Dems really are this stupid.
>>508819298
There's no way to make that happen, it never will and the Democrat's biggest supporters all make their money in real estate.

>>508818650
What I’m saying is that the fact that a White man can be broke with no life but still say to himself “At least I’m not a nigger or Christ-killing kike” is abhorrent to the left because their entire platform is centered around running from the truth that Whites are superior. Kikes couldn’t get into White country clubs in the 1960s and literally decided to take down the western world because the damage to their neurotic and fragile egos was too great. The only real option is for the left to kill off White men, and that is what this is all a smokescreen for.

>>508818043
Basically this

>>508818869
53% which is amazing considering the propaganda aimed at women. Probably much lower the younger you go .
Hate it 4 you Germans but you are one of the most psyoped nations in white history. Not really your fault.
Just like Whites psoped into wars .

>>508819497
The guy said he will give rent freeze in nyc and if most jews will leave then the price will be more affordable for Americans

>>508800720 (OP)
>young men
Joe Rogan is like 60

>>508819497
>Democrat's biggest supporters all make their money in real estate.
I did not know that. Trump is in real estate as well.

>>508819294
https://apnews.com/article/election-harris-trump-women-latinos-black-voters-0f3fbda3362f3dcfe41aa6b858f22d12

>>508819674
>>508819497
Trump is from jew york and is a Zionist.
This paki Chad is anti Zionist. It is a direct snub to the entire MAGA Miga coalition, I will vote democrat to destroy shitrael

>>508819753
Whats his name is it Mamdani?

>>508819637
And Trump said he would end the Russia-Ukraine bullshit in one day. They all lie all the time. If you can't see through even the most obvious ones then there is no hope for you.

>>508813256
That's what i meant by am i missing something. Either they omitted relevent data about specifically youth voting patterns in the prior election that show a larger swing in the youth vote than in men across all age demographics, data that would make the phrasing make sense, or someone goofed. Either way it's bad journalism.

>>508816853
I miss norbot

>>508819816
Trump is not stopping the jews, so the war continues. He works with Chabad Lubavitch, the ones that started the RussoUkrainian War

>>508819816
>>508819885
Thats where he went before he was elected praying at the shitMagog he was with chabad and Jewred Kikener is also chabad

>>508818753
Your second point is often overlooked. The thirst-trappers that cause incels to seethe are actually unmarriageable cultural flotsam. The incel/thot dynamic is two sides of the same coin flipping towards a cliff.
The good women AND men are married off young and are too busy raising families to fuck around with social media nonsense.

>>508819637
He will freeze the rent for rent controlled NYCHA housing which is already rent controlled but in reality he will continue to gentrify and push non Whites out into exurban NJ/LI, formerly nearly all White places even 20 years ago, and will be building more NYCHA housing in whatever few middle class White neighborhoods remain in the city. He will also stop cooperating with ICE after we just fixed that issue earlier this year

>>508819294
>barely any niggers under 35
Among under 35s Black vote the most and have since 2008 so you're wrong

>>508818150
Consider age demographics. In a state where White's of all ages voted red the one exception was gen-Z WHITE women. This is not a sustainable approach.

>>508820135
He's Muslim and importing an army

I like Muzzies, America is very compatible with Islam

>>508820238
No he isn't he literally won Hipsters and Pajeet voters dude. Cuomo won Black Democrats, Italian Democrats, Jewish Democrats, and Hispanic Democrats and still lost

>>508820374
Is the election over with yet? I would add that Republicans support Cuomo over Mamdani. And those are all MIGAs

>>508820196
Bruh Biden actually won 20-29 year old Adults in 2020 by +42% and won White women in their 20s by the exact same margin. Trump actually got 45% of 18-29 year old White women in 2024 somehow but I haven't forgotten the humiliation ritual that was the mid to late 2010s

>>508820424
Not the general, and maybe the Pole can crush that sandnigger as they often do.

>>508820424
Republicans support Silwa and Adams. Elderly Democrats liked Cuomo

>>508820540
Which Pole

>>508800720 (OP)
Niggee

>>508820528
I was referring to a Southern States, where Whites universally voted R, not the general for obvious reasons.

>>508820569
Cuomo is cool on a personal level, but I prefer radicalization in politics to make life more exciting rather than drab dull uniparty

>>508818970
>>starting with the fact that they know the Democratic Party doesn’t really like or respect them,” said Ross Morales Rocketto, a Democratic strategist
not we think. we know. not a delusion, even this dem knows its true. now they want to figure out how to trick us into not knowing they dont like and respect us. not gonna work

>>508820643
>>508820528
Republican young men don't vote at all because R party is pajeet and niggerlover and zionist party

>>508820135
>middle class white neighborhoods
>nyc
Good joke

I will vote for anybody that will fuck israel over. I hate in America that we are constantly surrounded by IDF all the time. It's the same as the British Empire, we fought those redcoats and made laws about no foreign soldiers on our lands

>>508820643
White women aged 18-29 in the South probably did vote for Trump. His support in the "Deep South' among Whites has no age polarization. Even in places like NC he got 75% of White 18-29 year old adults

>>508813580
Feminists screeching "incel" at any form of criticism is the exact same leftist tactic of screeching "racist", "sexist", "bigot", etc
Don't fall for it again.jpg

>>508802219
>https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/03/democrats-young-men-study-00384370
lol basically this is what dems offer white men

>>508820767
Well turnout for 18-29 year old men was 60% in 2024 and they went from D+13% to R+8%

>>508821007
White women in the south 18-29 are trad

>>508821071
What are the racial demographics?
If Rep party is anti zio I will vote for that. Thomas Massie is a real man we need more like him

>>508821075
and super sized too kek

>>508821154
Nah they are slimfit

>>508800720 (OP)
What does Joe Rogan have to do with it?

>>508821154
In the south white women strt having kids at 16 and have 3 kids by the time they are 21 unless they go to college

>>508821144
67% in 2020 were White and 65% in 2024. White and Black men aged 18-29 have very normal levels of voter turnout though for young White men it dipped in 2020 but the demographic was actually a Clinton then Trump then Trump demographic

>>508820866
So, if you are NatSoc, would you vote for a "socialist" Muslim candidate if they were actively pushing back against Israel, but were also pro gay/tranny? Honest question.

>>508813000
Another trips of truth and
> We’ve stared down Mossad unit 8200 and wiped the floor with them.
Unironically miss them, far better shills and they honed your arguments and made them better even if their pilpul was absolutely infuriating
These new breed is deplorably lacking and …just… terrible

>>508821144
>If Rep party is anti zio I will vote for that.
Sadly will never happen as long as boomer evangelicals still have their "say" on behest of AIPAC

>>508813623
This

>>508821263
I intended on voting Trump but I did not even know what day the election was. I thought it was nov 5 but it was nov 7. I didnt pay attention, and right now Im disappointed in Trump and his jew faggot friends

>>508821302
Yes Gaddafi. Islam is perfect for America