Thread 508804753

What causes this?

>>508804753 (OP)
refusal to grow up

>>508804753 (OP)
not even a socialist but you have to be fucking delusional to think capitalist society looks like the top, its so alienating that people are dredging up dead failed ideologies like fascism and communism as a safety blanket and more and more people are just choosing not to reproduce

>>508805157
Well, let's get to the bottom of this then. What is that you object to in capitalism. Here, I'll pull up the definition for you:
>an economic system in which investment in and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is made and maintained chiefly by private individuals or corporations, especially as contrasted to cooperatively or state-owned means of wealth
What part of this do you take issue with? Be specific.

>>508805157
XIX century capitalism pulled record numbers of people out of poverty

>>508805157
Fascism was so worthless that the entire jew run world united to stamp it out. Yeah...

>>508805157
Capitalism isn't perfect, but everyone is desperately trying to live in capitalist countries like the US because it's much better than the alternative

>>508804753 (OP)
LEFTOIDS HAVE WORMS IN THEIR BRAINS

>>508804753 (OP)
What I wonder about is the incessant blaming of capitalist for things communism does. How they watch a communist system artificially force housing prices up and then says it's capitalism.

>>508804753 (OP)
>socialists
You mean communists you commie scum

>>508804753 (OP)

Socialism but without the nationalism

Capitalism that's Jewish and not earned is also the bottom picture

America is a cringe combination of socialism for everyone Not Jewish nor Niggerjew mixed with selfish Jewish capitalism, Anon

>>508804753 (OP)
>>508805157
The best thing is probably a mix of the best aspects of both like whatever Norway and Sweden are doing but on a much larger scale. Lets see if this Mamdani guy can pull something off.

>>508805157
I still wonder if the libertarians have it right (and get clowned on for different reasons) about economics but that delving into it is autism and reading I don't have the time for

>>508806023
In the nordic model you pay half your income in various taxes with median wage and 70% of it if you earn over 100k a year

>>508806023
>whatever Norway and Sweden are doing but on a much larger scale
those aren't possible on a larger scale

>>508804753 (OP)
A religious mindset applied to political ideology.

>>508804753 (OP)
As a Finn you've only known socialism your entire life. Even if you've traveled in europe those are all socialist economies too. America is capitalist and you all mock it as a shithole.

>>508805280
The fact that "private individuals" and "corporations" are an umbrella term meant to shield jews. Specifically, the problem is that the state no longer has the ability to "protect itself" from a jew or a russian coming in and buying all the farmland, then starving the local population of fingoloids by artificially increasing the price of food. This supply and demand shit works in a neighborhood of 20 people with similar PPP, not in the international system where you can buy residency (in the eu you literally can buy it) and then once you are among many you can fuck the system and subvert it from the inside.

>>508806556
I love america

>>508806671
>then starving the local population of fingoloids by artificially increasing the price of food
Interesting that instead of acting like an adult, you first start raving about kikes who lie and distort every system they come across and equated it with the concept of trading capital for goods and services, and then decided to insult my people for good measure.
What a nice lad you are. Maybe you should let adults talk from now on, hm?

>>508806023
>whatever Norway and Sweden are doing
letting us defend them so they can spend what should be their defense budget on socialist luxuries?

>>508805157
It looks like that if you're not literally retarded, a nigger, or drug user. Which one are you?

America is basically socialist

>>508805157
Are you even aware that... if we dropped you in 1930 soviet Russia for 2 weeks.. and came back for you, you'd have trooned out by then?

Capitalism isn't perfect by any means, but it's a lot better than medieval alternatives like Communism, UBI, socialism, etc

>>508809261
As long as you work 30+ hours a week, we WILL cobble together your survival somehow

>>508809261
Same here, some guy with a 60 million dollar house where I live is constantly crying about how he lives under communism.

>>508809261
Be that as it may, USA is still coasting on industry and spirit of 1950 American capitalism... that's the fuel keeping the engine running

>>508804753 (OP)
Cluster B Personality Disorders

>>508806742
You'd be serving burritos in America. And would never have afforded to attend college.

>>508809261
>America is basically socialist
For blacks and single mothers.

I love socialism.
Free health care for children from conception to age 26.
Free childcare.
Maternity leave paid by government so mothers can actually raise their infants.
Free university so money doesn't hold people back from reaching their potential.
Heckin love socialism bros.

>>508805280
Ignoring the nazi response, the real problem with capitalism is that it allows corporation to gain too much power over time, leading to them being capable of influencing politicians or becoming monopolies.
Capitalism that has an occasional purge of its elites would work greatly.

>>508806671
Not the whole world has jews, russians, or any boogeyman in your head. That just means capitalism isn't the problem, but your boogeymen. Jews also infested communist nations like the USSR.

>>508809725
>can't be mad about one thing so have to come up with something else to be mad about
Why are slavs like this

Put in your 30+ hours, and make America Great

>>508804753 (OP)
Theres nothing wrong with socialism, intervention or even price ceilings on certain things. Prices ration a scarce resource so that the richest willing to pay have access to it first. By imposing price ceilings, using a lottery to ration and subsidizing the production of the resource, you can ensure most have access to it without creating a shortage. This would work for housing.

>>508809909
>the real problem with capitalism is that it allows corporation to gain too much power over time
And how does it do that, child? You do know that every western country used to have pretty strict rules about what corporations could and couldn't do, up until very recent when they were declared living entities with their own set of rights. Can you guess who was behind that stroke of genius? Here's a hint: it starts with J and ends with a holocaust.

Trump is the socialist president supreme

>>508804753 (OP)
Nice try fed, you live in a socialist country

>>508804753 (OP)
Bioleninism

Imagine the dog as a mentally ill outcast which cannot possibly prosper in a stable society with a common sense filter for success.
In search for ways to destabilize an unfavorable condition for him, he will create monstrous consequences for everyone and take zero responsibility for it because he is a mentally ill outcast.

>>508809725
stfu Fake German cuck

>>508810312
Surely you can prove how exactly the jooz were behind that, right anon? Because, you know, a much simpler explanation is corpos paying politicians to do that.

>>508810371
He was the hammer that finally had the force to get that last nail in

>>508805346
That record was broken by 20th century communism thoughbeit

>>508810544
Hmm, and who owns all of these corporations?
Who owns Blackrock?
Who owns Vanguard?
Who owns the media?
Who owns the banks?
Who owns our politicans?

None of you are qualified to have economic opinions. Its actually a great argument against democracy.

>>508811013
Thanks for the input, kike, now get in the fucking oven.

where does religion fit in this meme?

>>508811125
Im whiter than you yellow mongol cuck

>>508811013
>None of you are qualified to have economic opinions
>Theres nothing wrong with socialism, intervention or even price ceilings on certain things
Did you get your "economic degree" in the same bar as AOC?

>>508811193
>Im white, goy

>>508811226
I explained why there is nothing wrong with them. Price ceilings create shortages, but if you tax rich people/jews to subsidize production the shortage caused by the lower price wont exist.

Europeans are so socialist they don't understand that they're broke and money is everything in a class based capitalist society. You don't get into a good college if you didn't attend a private high school like Culver with $65k a year tuition. If you attend public school you'll never be shit.

>>508810970
So you couldn't prove you claim and instead went for the generic "da jooz own literally everything!" I'm not even gonna ask you to prove all of that since it's clean you won't and I won't point out any of countless giant corporations owned by white people since you'll just go with something like "he's secretly a joo!", or "da jooz forced him to do it!". It's obviously that you're either paid by the rich to do this, or a genuine retard believing this bullshit, bit either way, blaming all the jooz, instead of rich and powrful people, no matter who they are is actually helping them continue to fuck the people over.

>>508811510
And you actually thought you were more qualified to have economic opinions over other anons, how grim and hilarious at the same time

>>508804753 (OP)
>What causes this?
>Behavioral sink
humans have had it to easy for too long
time for a cull

>>508811599
You actually have no argument

>>508804753 (OP)
If you hate socialism so much, why don't you move to Somalia?

>>508811662
The argument is always the same for you utopian retards: the 1% that pays 45% of all taxes will leave and then you're forced to raise taxes on the next 1% (because you're never gonna lower then because you're a retarded socialist), and on and on it goes until everybody is dirt poor. But this time around there is an extra kicker, you're not just raising taxes to house infinite niggers or whatever, you're actually using it to subsidise food. Congrats king retard, you just created bread lines
Don't bother replying, there's literally no point in arguing with religious zealots

>>508804753 (OP)
The top is capitalists leaving in socialism and the bottom is capitalists leaving in capitalism.

>>508811598
>jooz
We know you are a kike, retard. Nobody's gonna waste time giving you a million sources of kikery that you'll ignore just to waste our time. Kill yourself.

>>508812096
Imagine being this brainwashed by the archons.

>>508812096
Raise taxes everywhere, blow up the moon and mars and the rich will have nowhere to go

>>508804753 (OP)

The catch is that pure Capitalism is not exercised either. What we really have is a mixture of both Capitalism and whatever the opposite you want to say is, and it swings back and forth in magnitude year after year.

So the people who want more Capitalism blame the Socialist programs, and the Socialists blame the Capitalist programs.

But really, the Socialists are the greater morons, because they can't see that we're in a mixed economy.

Historically speaking though, Capitalist countries have done better than Socialist countries.

So is the answer pure Capitalism? Maybe. Is the answer what we have already? Maybe. Is it pure Socialism? No. We've done that.

>>508804753 (OP)
>capitalism
>flowers and rainbows
just move 10 metres outside of you liberal gated community.

>>508805157
civilizations undergoes phases, like seasons:
hard times
reinassance
golden age
decadence
Then back to hard time.

long way into renaissance/entering golden age is the part with rainbows.
long way into decadence is the part with fires

this happens regardless of what dominant culture or form of government that civilization has in charge at the time, because it is a mechanism that triggers due to existing finite resources (resources/space/opportunities), but infinite desire of the citizens.

humans are ever-competing inside every civilization. eventually somebody will come to the top and will use their influence to snowball and stay at the top. when the influence grows to be too oppressive, the people will begin rebelling.

capitalism is just a word invented by some people to describe this ever-competing phenomenon, which is normality. they define it as bad and propose that if you give them power, they would be able to administer the world more fairly.
given, this is just one of the many ways they are rebelling,
anyway, it will not works because those who believe that aren't up for the task, and those who don't believe it end up using their position of power to grift, becoming the devil they claim to slay.
but if some factor triggers the reinassance, (for example, a new invention), it could seem to be working for a period.


you either convince the guys at the top that they are being too oppressive and they must relent, or you kill them until they understand.

>>508810284
>. Prices ration a scarce resource
Currency is made of a sand particulates, btw.

NATSOC board
jewpitalism shills go back

>>508805157
This, capitalism will die and so will its supporters. You morally can’t be a White nationalist and a capitalist. If you’re not anti capitalist you certainly not a White nationalist. If you choose material over race you may be an American golem.

>>508804753 (OP)
Ignorance and unmitigated desire for things which they do not require.
I will say poverty can play a role in the delusion too, and we are living in a rigged economy no-one can prosper under, but it's the socialist and favoritist portions of the system which are to blame.
We no longer have options fro "free trade" unless you are bartering 1 to 1 with another individual.

Have a coworker like this
>makes 150/yr
>has house
>cars
>married
>lots of paid time off
>whines that life is hell because people that worked a fifth as hard as him cant afford a home
>constantly on antidepressants and stimulants to function

>>508809909
A separation of corporation and state would fix this. There's a separation of religion and state, but not a separation of corporation and state.
It needs to happen.

>>508804753 (OP)
Capitalism has been total shit for the last faggot decade

>>508805647
Yes they legitimately believe the only reason the ussr/etc failed is because of the capitalist west. Like China wouldn't have had to kill/starve 200 million people if there weren't rich people in america. When their ideas fail, its because capitalists prevented them from working perfect. They make shizzos seem normal

>>508804753 (OP)
lazy entitled faggots mostly.

>>508806086
Libertarianism is like every other system in that it works perfect in an ethno/culturally homogeneous high trust state. But in such a system there are better options. Libertarian ideals caused them to be too open and rules adverse to prevent communists from making their own guy the libertarian presidential candidate

>>508804753 (OP)

The Left/Right conflict is manufactured by elites to prevent constitutional change from representative democracy, which is the worst form of democracy. This is done because those better forms of democracy would remove those elites from being the representatives that hold power on both sides of the aisle.

The nativists who are told they are the Right are deceived that they are "conservatives" and they should therefore want to conserve the constitution.

The suffering who are told they are the Left are misdirected, being told to focus their desire for change on the economy rather than the constitution, even though the unequal distribution of power is far worse than the unequal distribution of wealth.

>>508805946
>Socialism but without the nationalism
Not possible. Socialism always goes in nationalism direction.