Thread 508846871

Silencer deregulation has been removed from the big beautiful bill due to Byrd rule violations.

>Provisions Subject to a 60-Vote Byrd Rule Point of Order:
>Deregulation of gun silencers and easily concealable guns. This section removes the regulations pertaining to gun silencers and easily concealable firearms under the National Firearms Act. (Section 70436)
https://www.budget.senate.gov/ranking-member/newsroom/press/more-provisions-violate-byrd-rule-in-republicans-one-big-beautiful-bill

>>508846871 (OP)
>Silencer

>>508846871 (OP)
>muh parlimentarian
you can just fire her (yes of course it's a woman)

>>508846871 (OP)
Knew that was coming. Hope the bill dies it’s just annoying spending now

>betraying middle-class families
lolwut

>>508846871 (OP)
Who the hell doesn't know how to make a home made one? Personally I don't fund guns practical for crimes. They are loud, leave ballistic info and bring cops. I can overpower a woman without a gun.

How convenient that he was the guy everyone said would do something like this...

>>508846984
There's no practical difference between doing that and ending the filibuster, and Thune isn't interested in that

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/06/26/congress/john-thune-senate-parliamentarian-overrule-00425792

>>508846986
Yeah, I am gridlock person myself. If it shutdown except essentials for 3 or 4 years, I would hardly notice.

>>508846963
That's what people call them. We know, we know, its not a clip it's a mag, its not a silencer its a suppressor.

>>508847088
Shieeeet mah nigga, but dat shits lame af. I's wanna be goin in to sum cracka ass muhfuggas creeb wit mah glawk blazin', y'hear me dawg? I's wanna put a bullit in his ass an' smash his bitch from be-hind, y'gnomesayin? An then I take all his money an' shiieeet befo da po-po gets there.

>>508847153
It was also what the inventor called them.

>>508846871 (OP)
>Silencer deregulation has been removed from the big beautiful bill due to Byrd rule violations
Of course. Just another thing they failed at. How useless.

>>508846871 (OP)
>When a provision is subject to a 60-vote Byrd Rule point of order, it must either be removed or altered to comply with the rule, or it requires 60 votes to retain it in the bill. This threshold makes it difficult to include controversial or non-germane provisions in reconciliation bills, as it typically requires bipartisan support to meet the 60-vote threshold.
So it's not fucked yet but it might as well be.

>>508847109
Yes and that's why he's a faggot cuck.
>well our enemy, which has fewer numbers than we do, is telling us what we're allowed to vote on so i guess we just have to sit there and take it

>>508846963
look up the original maxim patent, vodkanigger

>>508846963
The first suppressor design to reach market was literally called a "silencer" nogunz.

>>508846871 (OP)
I feel like they only added shit like this as fodder to get cut so the other stuff gets ignored.

>>508846871 (OP)
>Byrd rule violations.
I thought they weren't allowed to sell those Chinese EV's here

>>508847356
Mike Lee's land sale to foreigners got cut too. She's just scrapping the entire bill because she's a woman and knows she can get away with it.

>>508847356
Always. It'll just be more of the same old shit, pork barrel spending, glorified welfare, etc. etc.
Nothing ever changes
>t. really wanted a Maxim and some short barrel ARs

>>508846871 (OP)
>Byrd rule
WTF is a Byrd rule?

>>508847673
Spending cuts are themselves getting cut too. There won't be anything left to vote on.
>>508847717
A failsafe Democrats invented to prevent Republicans from ever passing a law.

>>508847673
Sorry, try again next voting season goy

>>508846871 (OP)
So good news! I looked it up and the Dems are fucked because they won't get 60 votes to overrule vice president.

>The Vice President, as the presiding officer of the Senate, has the authority to overrule the Senate Parliamentarian's ruling on a Byrd Rule point of order. However, this overruling can be overturned by a 60-vote majority in the Senate

Trump has backstabbed you twice now. When will you listen?

Aww Goddamnit...

>>508846871 (OP)
Wow you know, wouldn't it be amazing if Vance as Senate presiding officer just told the Parliamentarian to go fuck her whore self and shut that skank mouth this is how it's gonna be, because his dog is actually a district judge of other dog's anuses and ruled it very unconstitutional to apply the Byrd amendment this time. Just because, no takesie backsies.
They could grow some balls and do it but I mean that would be twisting the intents of how the government works right, we could never do that.
Very grateful decorum has been maintained.

>>508847782
Vance failing to do this would be the last straw for me. Democrats aren't people. Ignore them and their braying.

>>508846871 (OP)
>you can only pass bills this way if it has to do with spending or taxes
>okay we don't need this tax any more
>NOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
Just end the filibuster and be done with it.

>>508847752
Can you be more specific?

>>508847938
Vance wants to take your guns. Trump wants to take your guns. Vance is a rich tech faggot from San Francisco and Trump is a rich New Yorker. Both hate guns, want guns banned, and want the 2nd Amendment to be for rich jews only.

>>508847986
Democrats passed a law that says you aren't allowed to pass any other laws they don't like in the future. This is called the Byrd Amendment.

>>508847806
never. you clearly don't get it

>>508848109
It seems like you're just making stuff up so I looked up the Byrd Amendment on Wikipedia and now I'm even more confused.
>The act changed the disposition of funds raised from duties on imports that the US government has determined to be subsidized or otherwise unfairly priced.
>Congress enacted the Byrd Amendment on October 28, 2000, and repealed it on December 21, 2005.
This doesn't seem to have anything to do with silencers.

>>508847717
byrd is an old racist who still writes legislation from the grave.

>>508848368
>The Byrd rule, named after its principal sponsor, Senator Robert C. Byrd, was adopted in 1985 and amended in 1990 to modify the Budget Act and is contained in section 313.[12] The rule allows Senators to raise a point of order against any provision that is extraneous, where extraneous is defined according to one of several criteria.
Robert Byrd of course being the Exalted Grand Dragon Wizard Cyclops of the KKK.

>>508847986
Senate bills need 60 votes to break the filibuster
Except if the vote is on a spending bill related to finance

It’s typical US Government “well long ago Randall Faggot Childmolesterson III fucked his own ass with a broomstick on a Monday morning during a rain storm while debating a finance bill after his mother got sick, so since then it’s been an unofficial rule that you can only pass a bill from Mississippi on a Tuesday or if it’s snowing.”

Our entire government deserves to be keelhauled under a oil tanker

>>508847266
Republicucks are spinless and and only good for snatching defeat and concessions out of the jaws of victory. The Alinskycrats have no ethics except the will to win. It's like watching the evil globetrotters vs the cowardly lion version of the Washington Generals, but they all have progeria. Only a few of them are even willing or good enough to stand up to them for a gotcha soundbite that will go fuck all nowhere except Gutfield and some online pundits that will gush and act like its going to be a turning point (it won't). If the other option wasn't observable ontological evil hell bent on destroying me and this country and turning the world into some kind of hybrid 1984,Harrison Burgeon, gay communist, totalitarian, nanny state, hellscape I wouldn't even bother with them. I hate this fucking timeline

>>508846871 (OP)
>Silencer deregulation
oh do you need a loicence for these in muttland? in bongland children can buy silencers no questions asked.

>>508848661
What good is a silencer with nothing to screw it onto?

>>508847717
Basically if a bill is referring to budgeting they can't put other shit into the bill. Of course it only seems to work one way typically. If they want to sneak pork shit into bills where the primary purpose is not related to spending money, it usually sticks and they don't bitch about it. But if they bill is primarily a spending bill, the minority party in the Senate at that time will screech for the Byrd amendment be enacted.

It's never actually consistently applied, every one of those niggers throw in some pork on bills that have jack shit to do with a wad of funding going to something they want in exchange for voting yes.
I would say it's technically "broken" far more than not. It just is like every law ever, it's selectively enforced when it is deemed fit for it to be. And right now the dems deem it fit, because they don't have jack shit to stop the tagged on portions of the bill. They don't have house, senate majority nor the presidency, all they got is Byrd shit. Those niggers don't deserve to stop the bill.

>>508848777
still don't need a loicence for it though, where's your freedum now bitch?

>>508849001
Do you shove them into your assholes to fart through or something?

>>508847938
Why would Thiel want plebs having easier access to silencers? He has bodyguards and is shuttled around in armored cars.

>>508847088
>All these gun laws are okay because I can just DIY
The eternal cuck mantra. You fags said this when Trump banned bump stocks.
Apparently, someone has to remind the 2A hobbyists that gun laws are bad because they use law enforcement and federal resources against gun owners. The point isn't just about whether or not you can get one easily. It's about being able to own one without facing prison time.
But all gun owners are coping faggot cuckolds so I really shouldn't be surprised.

>>508849001
Unfortunately soon-muhammad it is currently getting cucked from swift correction by Byrds. It is gay.

>>508849162
Do silencers penetrate armor better or something? You just wanted to sound like you know anything and threw in a name.

>>508848560
Thune wouldn't want to break the filibuster, either.

>>508848777
They're probably mandated for knives so they can't be used for loud stabbings

>>508849208
Peter Thiel owns JD Vance. Silencers make assassinations easier by reducing noise. Billionaires don't want that.

>>508849349
Anyone who wanted to do that would just build their own, as the fudd already mentioned.

>>508848368
It's the Byrd "rule" not "amendment."
Its function is to prevent non-tax or budget related amendments being added to the budget bill otherwise legislators would attach everything they wanted to the bill.
In this case since the law regulating silencers was explicitly passed as a tax, not a ban by any reasonable interpretation removing silencers and short barreled rifles from the law is explicitly tax and budget related.

>>508846871 (OP)
If 'murricans wanna kill each other, they should be encouraged to do so.

>>508849349
It makes assassinations harder by making the weapon longer and more difficult to conceal.

>>508849646
If it's budget related then why does it need 60 votes? I know the real reason (it's racist) but I want to know what their justification is.

>>508847088
That isn't the problem. That's like saying "who don't know how to make crack in they kitchen"

>>508849927
An unelected bureaucrat said so

>>508846871 (OP)
>'Silencer'
Bro I'm Australian and even I know the correct term.

Reminder Vegas shooting was because of suppressor law changes

>>508846871 (OP)
The bill is worthless now. This was the one shining gem in it.

>>508849052
no i smuggle 'em into muttland and sell 'em to mutts for exorbitant prices.

>>508846871 (OP)
Repeal the NFA and problem solved.

>>508847153
The magazine thing is a little worse.
A clip references another device and the terms are not at all interchangeable.

>>508846871 (OP)
>has been removed from the big beautiful bill
Where does it say that in your link?

Also republicans are not actually pro-2A and they never have been. "You can't hunt a deer with an AR15, there'd be nothing left!" and "no one NEEDS an AR15" were common republican 2A talking points when I was a kid. I have not forgotten.

>>508846963
i love showing nogunz faggots trying to be fake experts the patent
people like you think you're the range officer for the whole entire internet, admit it you're one of those safety sissies that police 'trigger discipline' in photos posted on facebook
kys

>>508846984
>>508846963
>>508846871 (OP)
Kill the family of every traitor that voted against silencers

Under the bruen decision, silencers are legal, end of discussion

>>508846871 (OP)
If SHORT and HPA are not passed into law, I will never vote for another Republican in my life. Bunch of fucking pathetic losers, all they know how to do is be doormats.

>>508858165

It seems like conservatives are the same in my country as well. They keep trying to play nice all the time, and let liberals get away with tonnes of bullshit. It's all so tiresome.

Fuck burgers I'm so jealous I just wanna suppressor on a cz75 kept nice and snug under my bed

Is that really so much to ask? Just to keep my family safe

>>508846963
>loudner

>>508846871 (OP)
I fucking hate our leaders. faggots

>>508859317
>Just to keep my family safe
Oi m8 are you suggesting self defense of any kind, there's not even a loisense for that.
When a dozen sudos bust down your front door yer only two options are running and spreading those cheeks.
If you so much as brandish a pair of salad tongs to defend yourself every cop and magistrate between you and the bald cunt running asio will fuck you sideways.

>>508848031
Vance is from Ohio you lying kike faggot nigger.