Thread 508862821

Pagans literally saved baby Jesus. Being a pagan doesn't seem so bad now huh?

>The Gospel of Matthew tells how the Magi visit Jerusalem to seek guidance as to where the king of the Jews has been born; King Herod directs them to Bethlehem and asks them to return to him and report, but they are warned in a dream that Herod wishes to find the child and kill him, and do not do so. Matthew continues:

>When Herod realized that he had been outwitted by the Magi, he was furious, and he gave orders to kill all the boys in Bethlehem and its vicinity who were two years old and under, in accordance with the time he had learned from the Magi.
—Matthew 2:16

>>508862821 (OP)
The magi were zoroastrians.

>>508862919
Zoroastrianism is the same paganism as vedic, nordic and celtic religions

>>508862821 (OP)
Who cares which path up the mountain you take when the only thing that matters is if you're actually climbing?
Call it whatever you fancy.

>>508862821 (OP)
You as a pagan should be transformed through the Gospel of Salvation, not to forget your culture but to stop worshipping idols and vain traditions.

>>508862978
>vain traditions.
Me thinks fire rituals is better than circumcision

>>508863067
The key word there was worship, you can still practice santa clause or have easter bunnies, but for the love of God don't lie to your children and make them believe lies.

>>508862821 (OP)
>he gave orders to kill all the boys in Bethlehem
So why there's zero archaeological and historical back for that

>>508862978
>vain traditions.
Most christian "traditions" were stolen from pagans to help in conversions.

>>508863137
and they still teach their kids that a fat man in red suit comes down their chimney to give them presents

>>508863116
Idk bro you think we archive abortion records like this in 2000 years we're gonna have a record of how many siblings your mom aborted?

>>508863105
>lies
I think the Vedic religion is truth as opposed to Yahweh

>>508862978
Ok, winter solstice worshipper and Easter bunny practitioner.

>>508862821 (OP)
The Magi didn't save him, they first visited him then while sleeping an angel told them to go back through another road and to not stop by Herod. Then the same angel appeared to Joseph in dream telling him to take Jesus and Mary and to go to Egypt until Herod's death.

>>508863184
There were many historians back then none of them mentioned your God or that Massacre

>>508863351
no historians wrote about some random baby nobody knew where it was, wow

>>508863306
>the same angel appeared to Joseph
and you know this how, that it was "the same angel"? Was there just one angel assigned to Jesus security detail, and was it transferred somewhere else when Jesus turned 33?

>>508863253
Yahweh according to christianity isn't a religion, but Rome made it into one IMHO

>>508863260
Those are pagan things, the point is you can keep those things. The point is we have to have them.

>>508863581
*we DON'T have to have them

>>508863067
Circumcision isn’t a Christian practice

>>508863581
I will stick to Vedic religion instead of the Christian Gospel

>>508863626
exactly, you can do circs if you want or not, it's vain and pointless.

>>508863626
Jesus was circumcised

>>508863639
That is fine, no one says you have to switch.

>>508863670
Because he was a Jew.

>>508863670
He was fulfilling jewish law at the time. This was later understood to have changed with the new covenant. The law means something to westerners, I know you have trouble understanding this, being lizard rapists and all.

>>508863670
Christianity is about faith, if doing something gives you faith, as long as it's not idol worship or raping children or something evil, and it gives you a stronger faith, then it is permitted.

>>508863639
>Vedic religion instead of the Christian Gospel
your religion is so fucked up that even the brahmins can't keep up with all the intricate bullshit and lies they made up.

>>508863836
And pol is your source of knowledge?

>>508864030
Did the ancient Vedic religion have human sacrifices?

>>508864030
If they offer food, animals, and humans to the gods then it's idol worship and evil. You should definitely stop that

>>508863536
Yeah I was going by memory and now that I checked it doesn't say that an angel appeared to the Magi, just that
>And having been warned in a dream not to go back to Herod, they returned to their country by another route.
In the very next line it's an angel of God who appeared to Joseph, it could be implied that the messanger was the same or not, anyway it all came from God.
>When they had gone, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream. “Get up,” he said, “take the child and his mother and escape to Egypt. Stay there until I tell you, for Herod is going to search for the child to kill him.”

>>508863105
Calling on Coca Cola Odin and Tom Bombadil has done more for me throughout my life than praying to the semitic desert demon and Jesus. And no, I'm not joking. What works works and what doesn't will slowly be abandoned, as we are seeing now in the cultural and religious shift.

>>508864185
No.
>>508864353
>idol worship is le evil
No.

>>508864628
>Offering chocolate chip cookies to Santa clause improved my faith

no it didn't

>>508864634
It is if you are having to sacrifice to it.

>>508863980
jesus was white
israelites were white

>>508864816
Nope. What is truly evil is monotheism claiming an absolute knowledge of truth.

Picrel is the end of all monotheism

>>508864963
yahweh is just indra lil bro like no shit you dont like yahweh you probably hate indra too

>>508862821 (OP)
Zoroastrians seem to get a pass in the books, even Muhammed didn't go hellfire on them, its like the giants who also seemingly get to chillax wihile yahweh goes psycho on all the different pagan gods.

>>508865017
Not at all. Just because both have storm god origins don't make them same. None of the abrahqmic scriptures could come close to the level of metaphors associated to indra in the Vedas.

>>508864963
Truth exists and it sets us free from false sacrifices. If you want to eat at the table with demons go ahead I won't stop you.

>>508865067
Vedic religion is a monotheism ancient vedic people did not worship the fucking aether either like hindus do

>>508865078
It exists but it is not one. It is not monotheistic. It is unknowable in any shape of form and humans cannot claim absoluteness.
This idea keeps re appearing time and again even in our sciences in different forms (Gödel Incompleteness, Uncertainty principle etc).
As for "Muh demoons " I will leave you with this, get better theological capabilities than using "muh demonrinooos"

>>508865152
No it is not. It is not monotheism in the sense abrahamic religions are if you want to argue Purusha/Brahman is a monotheistic concept. Literally check this >>508864963

>>508862821 (OP)
This nigger looks just like the current pope wtf /pol/

>>508862919
>>508862953
pajeet is right, the 3 wise men were persian priests(magi) Jesus is the Saoshyant

>>508865162
>Muh demoons
Idols are demons, when you sacrifice to them you are making spiritual compromises and lessening yours and other's faith. There is no spiritual significance in idol worship, no power. You are the temple and God can live inside of your heart. That is where truth and power are.

>>508865431
All of reality is Purusha. Idols simply are better for reaching deity by invoking the deity within the idol. It is more of a tantrik /shramana origin practice and is a good deterrent from spirits and such "entities"

If you are being haunted by some "thing" idol worship gets you quicker defense

>>508865695
Truth comes from within yourself, not outside of yourself. Seek and you find.

>>508865906
It can come from both. Shutting yourself to one is arrogance.

This is precisely what the Nasadiya Sukta is about.

>>508866243
You should read Journey to the West, I reckon it's more your taste and culture and vibes better with christianity.

>>508866408
https://rumble.com/v43mzkn-journey-to-the-west-01.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a

>>508863351
Fact is, it was probably only a very small number of babies around in that tiny village at that exact time of that age. hardly something that historians would take notice of or ever know about.

>>508863116
But as for contemporary historians taking notice of Herods activities, you only have to look to Josephus

https://www.ncregister.com/blog/did-the-slaughter-of-the-innocents-really-happen

https://www.neverthirsty.org/bible-qa/qa-archives/question/is-there-secular-evidence-herod-killed-babies-under-the-age-of-two/

The guy seemed like a complete psycho. that he sought to murder a few little kids in a small village doesn't really seem out of character.

>>508864677
>he thinks a kid asking for aid and being ignored by King Yid for 20 years of fierce devotion is fine but getting insane fallbacks from Odin on a random whim is just some pronoia cope
Stay spiritually brown forever, it's where you belong.