Thread 508871175

Sign here https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home
https://www.stopkillinggames.com/

Long explanation https://youtu.be/mkMe9MxxZiI?si=mO0l07Im64ZtprfS
Short explanation https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iH7k0IZ5PYE

>>508871175 (OP)
how exactly are games being killed when you can pirate their shit?

>>508871274
If game needs connection to internet (and forces it on you to play that game), then without server emulator you can't play them. It gets especially stupid when game doesn't really need that connection to server. But does it anyway as another DRM maybe

>>508871175 (OP)
It's real simple, I just don't play games or use clients that require internet connections. This is just steamfags groveling like the little faggots they are.

>>508872197
This is one way to deal with it. But sadly some games will get lost because of that practice

>>508871175 (OP)
>obligate all video games made to have perma servers
>be fucking shocked when the games cost way more

>>508871175 (OP)
No ban that game toy shit some you little boys will grow the fuck up and stop mooching off your poor folks and move out, like a man.

Forgot to post. Just the tracker, to see daily signs. https://stopkillinggamestracker.pages.dev/

Stop killing games
Start killing russians

>>508874519
nobody cares you butt hurt belt faggot

>>508874328
Surely they could make it so it's ok if you just turn over the contents of a server or otherwise let people setup their own servers post x-years. Like throwing a couple hundred gigs on a server isn't that hard.

>>508874639
Also for example, old games did let you run your own lan and etc servers. Quake for example

>>508871175 (OP)
I will only sign this when turd worlders get lower prices, why should I give away 10% of my paycheck for a game, fuck you, piracy rules

>>508874901
What about GOG prices, Serbia Anon?

>>508875162
Pretty sure it pulls us with other Europeans, Eastern Europe is piss poor

>>508875455
Some region prices are decent still. Steamdb data, MGR for example.

>>508871175 (OP)
No. These autistic freak manchildren can just
1. Not buy an internet-dependent videogame that won't be maintained far into the future
2. Not autistically obsess over a videogame for the next decade.
I hate these people so much.

>>508876431
Id rather it be legislated so faggot devs get fucked in the ass.

>>508871175 (OP)
videogames are kike poison. retards who consume it willingly deserve all the worst.

If you don't like it, make your own games

>>508871175 (OP)
I don't care what cucks say an MMO should be single player after it's taken offline.

I get why some games have to die but it's so obvious when they shut down an old game to release a new one. Like to me if less people are playing The Crew, that just means servers should be even cheaper. You owe it to the people playing to keep the game up especially if you're going to make a sequel.

>>508872197
>>508874328
>obligate all video games made to have perma servers

not what the bill forces, it forces them to provide players with self hosted or DRM free games if they dont wanna keep the server up themselves

this bill is about more than online server games. its essentially stopping companies who force their games to have DRM from disappearing games forever after they decide to ditch the game (think ubisoft, EA, etc)

Ubisoft has a fuckin website up where they list a couple dozen games that they SAY they will 'decommission' in a few years and they WONT provide a way to continue playing it, they are blatantly saying they own and will take away the game that you paid for

there is NO REASON not to vote for this shit, this is gonna reverse the evil bs these game corpos do to gouge us for money and return autonomy to players, return actual game ownership to players and all it fuckin requires is you to click a link

https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/help/purchases-and-rewards/article/decommissioning-of-online-services-for-older-legacy-ubisoft-games-a-m/000064576

>>508872197
>This is just steamfags groveling like the little faggots they are.

>"I have no idea what I'm talking about and do not remotely understand what is being discussed"
Yeah you made that clear jamal.

>>508876952
Get droned, nigger

>>508871175 (OP)
There are 19 million people in the netherlands, and somehow not even a single million of us have signed this. It's disappointing to watch since, I assume if everyone understand and read about it, they would have diffidently signed.
... so I guess the news didn't get spread everywhere. People are busy with otherthings. The thing isn't very visible.

Also unfortunately, youtubers like felix are only busy with themselves. Somehow people who are only busy with themselves even when it pisses people off, like Maldavious does, somehow have 4 million+ subscribers. Is it that interesting to follow someone who will piss you off at some point, I wonder, or maybe it is because he upsets you.

can someone advertise it on facebook?

>>508878065
Figuring out ways to get this to European youtubers has been the main issue for some time.

>>508871175 (OP)
This strikes at the heart of ownership. If I buy fruit and it goes bad quick I dont expect the store to give me new fruit. Part of the expectation is that this product is temperary. Does the same apply to games? When you buy a game with required internet access is the expectation that this game could just die at any time? Or is that ownership extends beyond this expectation and ownership over a game means you own the ability to always use this product?

>>508871175 (OP)
I hate the EU more than I hate anything publishers are doing to games

>>508878065
>... so I guess the news didn't get spread everywhere
>can someone advertise it on facebook?

sir, I have good news

>>508878378
>Part of the expectation is that this product is temperary
No it isnt you ESL
Nobody who bought a game 1984 - 2010 expected a game to be ripped away from them after paying full price for it. This is just greedy jews exploiting the lack of regulation to basically force you to buy their new shiny garbage. It's not a fruit you're eating, it is your car being remotely disabled.

>>508878378

a game isnt gonna go off like fruit you shill

if you bought a car, do you expect the car to shut itself down after 5 years of use because the manufacturer wants u to buy newer models?

if u bought a phone, do u expect it to slow itself down and try to hint at you to buy a new version within a few years?

guess what? apple got in trouble for doing that, its time big game developers stopped being such greedy gold digging cockgobblers

>>508878065
Meanwhile Finland going for 200%

>>508878603
300%*

desu this shit should be posted in /g/ /v/ and /vr/ and /vg/ etc

only deviants (yes i know, im one too) come to /b/

>>508878378
>Does the same apply to games?
Games are code. Code don't go bad like fruits, Anon (they sometimes do, but you can fix them)

>>508874328
>american education

>>508874237
I'm against whatever fake voice supports.

>>508874237
This cuck fakes his voice and has an entire kiwifarms page about him

>>508878603
why is italy always like this...

>>508878839
What?

Be a good goy and dont keep games, BUY MORE, You dont own your games, you only pay for temporary fun.

You like a game and wanna keep playing it locally, mod it and so on? BAD LUCK, GIVE US MORE MONEY


>Studios EA bought and then shutdown, removing their games from circulation and removing online services

Visceral (Dead Space) - shut down in 2017
Mythic (Dark Age of Camelot) - Purchased by EA in 2006; shut down in 2014.
Bullfrog (Syndicate, Dungeon Keeper) - Purchased by EA in 1995; shut down in 2001.
Origin (Ultima, Wing Commander) - Purchased by EA in 1992; shut down in 2004.
Westwood (Command & Conquer) - Purchased by EA in 1998; shut down in 2003.
DreamWorks Interactive/Danger Close/EA Los Angeles (Medal of Honor) - Purchased by EA in 2000; shut down in 2013.
Phenomic (SpellForce, BattleForge) - Purchased by EA in 2006; shut down in 2013.
Black Box Games (Need for Speed, Skate) - Purchased by EA in 2002; shut down in 2013.
Pandemic (The Saboteur) - Purchased by EA in 2008; shut down in 2009.
PlayFish (The Sims Social) - Purchased by EA in 2009; shut down in 2013.
NuFX (NBA Street) - Purchased by EA in 2004; shut down in 2007.

>EA announces shutdown of hundreds of games more

mmos.com/news/ea-online-multiplayer-shutdown-2022

>>508878695
It's already on /v/.

>>508874328
Is that you, piratesoftware?

>>508878882
Countries at the bottom don't care about games

>>508878882
Nobody here thinks about or plays video games. The average "hardcore gamer" plays FIFA and he is happy to buy the same game every year.

>>508879077
I miss NFS World. Atleast NFS World got fan made server emulator, but other games wasn't so lucky

>>508874328
Jewish sower of misinformation. Straight hasbara.

>>508874328
t. kikerat

>>508871464
I don't think you get to force companies to make you additional software so you can run it yourself. If they do not offer servers then I think you have a right to make your own server with software.

If you don't like it don't buy it they make it obvious. Years of wow private servers taught me you can make your own If you want.

>>508871175 (OP)
I was there the day HL2 launched. And I went home and was one of the day 1 users using steam. I hate Gabe so much.
Just let me play your fucking game.
And all we ever wanted was a new CS 3 and DOD 3.

I had to literally download an illegal backup of my games simply to avoid "internet connection required" shit. Wait till they put a soft lock in your PS6 and new XBOX, so no one can play on Earth Hour, or Earth Day (to save electricity).

>>508877842
Drm games get pirate like all others anon. No I don't think they should be forced to make a new version for you. You get what you paid for.

Enjoy.....

https://pcgamestorrents.com/

>>508874519
>top killing games
>Start killing russians
start killing faggots and democrats

>>508871175 (OP)
I support it in spirit but because I am not a euro fag I can’t sign

>>508882412
Bump the thread always helps. Eurobros should be going door to door in their neighborhoods with the link to get people to sign.

>>508872197
I play games all the time when offline not connected to the internet on steam. The only time I need the internet is when I download them

>>508882558
I hope they can make it happen anything to fuck over the companies killing games is a good thing

>>508871175 (OP)
Get a job faggot lmaooo

Playing games at age 32

>>508871464
If you don't want to play online, don't buy online games. This is stupid.

>>508878455
The problem is that I don't have a facebook account, nor a following. I was hoping someone with at least 20 followers would.

Its on twitter, its a little bit on tiktok. It's on twitch, its on youtube.
but the presence on Facebook is 0

Another way I guess would be to buy ads, but a similar issue pops up there; namely that you have to be trusted already. After all, scammers abuse new accounts and ads, so I cannot just get a presence easily,

On youtube, its the same thing. I could make a new channel, or maybe on Rumble or whatever youtube alternative, but you need a minimum following or you get ghosted downward and no one will view it.

So no, I can't do it unfortunately. I could try, but it would fail. Unless you have an idea on how to get publicity quickly.0dmn2

>>508876857
>so faggot devs get fucked in the ass.
But if they're faggots wouldn't they just like that? Why give them the buttsecks they want anon?

What about “service games” like wow and RuneScape? Does this bill mean it jagex kicks it they legally have to release the servers and let us run private? Would be pretty sweet

>>508883333
A service is different from a product legally speaking and this doesn't target those since it would be impossible to get through if it did

>>508883420
Then I don’t care about this at all. I don’t play video games, I play RuneScape, and yes there IS a difference.

>>508883333
>Does this bill mean it jagex kicks it they legally have to release the servers and let us run private?
That is the idea, yes.

>>508883420
>>508883599
>A service is different from a product
It's literally the same but how you access it is slightly different. Runescape has private servers already by the way.

>>508871175 (OP)
No, fuck these stupid movements.

>>508871175 (OP)
These retards want companies to keep supporting multilayer games when there will be less than 5 ppl playing globally. Some bored leftist retard found another way to grift.

>>508871464
>businesses must be compelled to create things for a handful of people for nothing in return
lol

>>508883845
>>508883725
No nigger. Just let us self host servers like we have been doing for 40 years.

You better sign it europoors. The whole world is counting on you.

>>508883948
You saying like that's a bad thing. Maybe bad for suits in company , but not for customers / players.

pol supporting stop killing games more than v is killing me.

>>508884039
Its not the 90s grandpa. This code likely uses cloud infrastructure. They aren't going to go through the entire code base and remove or emulate these calls. The game code itself is likely in part shared by other games, past and future. They aren't going to give you that proprietary code so that you can create a rival business, hack future games, etc.

>>508884242
Even /v/ has shills for companies. Unknown if they actually getting paid for this or they idiots

>>508884285
It shouldn't be that way then. If while being developed, has this feature in mind. It would be a lot more easier. For existing games currently, yeah.

>>508884233
It's a bad thing on a basic logical level.

>oh no my online only slop is shutting down!
the solution is to stop buying this scummy trash in the first place. every online game worth a shit either provides a server, or fans have reverse engineered better versions anyways, the rest is garbage slop that I'm glad is fucking dead.

what the fuck would regulation even look like? companies are forced to release server binaries? great, so now you probably end up with all the proprietary and cloud shit EA uses in their datacenters that is still 100% hamstrung by licensing and platform limits. what about p2p matchmaking? what about third party online systems like non-Valve games using Steam apis? and all this to keep a shitty game that nobody plays alive?

>>508884423
So let's kill game many devs put hours of work into? Art, assets, music and etc. . And some companies do this sort of thing to create fomo. So maybe they can relaunch it at some point. Or they just shoot it dead, like EA does usually

>>508884368
Be prepared for costs to skyrocket and even more bugs then. Cloud takes care of a lot of very hard problems solved by people way smarter than game developers.

>>508884285
>90s
Nigger minecraft lets you self host servers.

>>508884638
>Be prepared for costs to skyrocket
They already very much pushing for it sadly.
>Cloud takes care of a lot of very hard problems solved
Yes. But some companies use it as some sort of extra DRM. Throw some leaderboard, chat and etc. . And make mostly singleplayer game connect to internet always.

>>508871464
Are you retarded? Buy single player games and go back >>>/v/

>>508878547
>random arbitrary years
Sorry to tell you but the multiplayer does die in regarding population in old games from back then too. Also >>>/v/

>>508883039
It's not about multiplayer. If you wanted to play the Diablo II remaster without ever touching the online part of the game then you still have to check in with Blizzard servers every 30 days or the game bricks. There are plenty of other examples.

>>508871175 (OP)
Yes but I hate Euros and believe we have to wage a nuclear holy war against them

>>508884849
Not really related to you, Anon. But why most of people against this movement and from USA? Did they brainwash you or something?

>>508884953
Why most of people against this movement are from USA?* . My bad

>>508884860
then don't buy diablo 2 remaster and don't support blizzard's scummy shit. you knew about it and still bought it. instead you keep buying the slop and then think some gay EU regulation is gonna fix the problem (it won't, just like GDPR and the cookie shit did not solve anything)

>>508884712
>Nigger minecraft lets you self host servers.
>minecraft, a game developed in 2009
Very cutting edge example. Anyway, I'm talking about all games as a whole. You can always cherry pick games where it would or wouldn't work.

>>508884829
>But some companies use it as some sort of extra DRM
I agree but even if it is shitty, I don't logically see what is wrong with this as long as they tell you the game is going to be unavailable some day. The companies have simply changed the deal from "own" to "access" for everything and now its up to the market to see if that's acceptable or not. If you don't like it then just don't buy it. Its not like games are a necessity. That's why I think asking for government intervention is ridiculous. Some guy offers you a deal and instead of just walking away you go get someone to bully him into giving you a better deal?

>>508885338
>a game developed in 2009
OY VEY THIS ISNT the 90s
>this game from 20 years later lets you do that
OY VEY THIS ISNT THE 2000s!!
Lmao.

>>508885338
>I don't logically see what is wrong with this
One, person that bought the game no longer can play it, if game using that internet connection mostly as extra DRM. And second, large amount work and time have put into that game basically poofs out of existence. Fuck that. Asking EU to help with that could cause monkey paw thing, but companies wont self regulate sadly.

games stopped being good around 2014 (massive slowdown after 2008) so that's about 30 years worth of solid vidya to play through. that's just way too many good games to wade through the sea of modern shit. i do not care what happens to modern games.

>>508885462
Its called hyperbole/joke you pedantic retard.

>>508885613
It's literally just server.exe on someone else's computer lmao. What even is your argument kid?

>>508878906
He uses a software or hardware voice changer to make his voice sound deeper than it actually is. There's recordings of him sounding different from a few years ago.

He did some damage control by using 10 year old videos instead of using the more recent ones. Then he made the excuse of going through a 2nd puberty.

Oh and he's a gay furryfag

>>508885219
I decided against buying it as soon as Blizzard stripped out tcpip connections after the beta. But that's irrelevant. The average pleb doesn't think that far in advance. Like it or not games are mainstream now, and that means holding a "vote with your wallet" opinion has you voting against an uncountable sea of normies who are not only willing to overlook shitty practices but actively beg for them.

>children/manchildren who have no impulse control can't stop buying shit they hate so they need the goverment to do something instead

How many people who signed this are also covered in tattoos, I wonder?

no
games must die
nothing of value will be lost
it's time to do something real on your free time, learn to fix motorcycles or go fishing i dont care

>>508885506
>person that bought the game no longer can play it
A lot of things in life are like this though. You pay to see a movie once and after they aren't going to let you back in to see it as many times as you want. Same with going to see a sports game, etc. They want to make games like this, where you never own it, you just pay to access it. It is definitely anti consumer, will lead to lost media, etc but its their product to do what they want with it and you don't have to buy it.

>>508885710
Did you only read the first sentence and decide to immediately sperg out? >>508884285

>>508871175 (OP)
It's over

>>508885943
>A lot of things in life are like this though.
With all due respect, what kind of logic is that. It is code, Anon. It can be fixed, rebuilt, built differently. You can backup the code (Game, music, movie , art and etc) and it will live many years. Greed usually is the reason why we can't watch or play stuff that are now lost to time.

>>508886108
His whole point is "and how much money is that going to cost?"

>>508883039
Back 4 blood is another one. Single player or online play must connect to the Internet first, fuck those niggers who made it

>>508885943
>Did you only read the first sentence
Yes? Muh it's not the 90s any more. What are you a jew?

>>508871175 (OP)
video games? what???

>>508883039
If you don't want to sell a product that is usable don't make the product lmao

>>508871175 (OP)
Just end Copyright already.

>>508871175 (OP)
No. Games waste young people's lives and destroying the gaming industry is a must.

>>508886108
>It can be fixed, rebuilt, built differently
Are you going to pay the dev salaries for this to happen? The way they are currently made in leveraging cloud, existing proprietary libraries and servers, etc. saves a lot of money. Some games might not even exist at all if it wasn't for these things. To either throw them away during the process, or remove them afterwards, is a lot of money spent and will take away from future game budgets.

>Greed usually is the reason why we can't watch or play stuff that are now lost to time.
Greed is why 99% of media exists in the first place though. I completely understand your sentiment but this is all not as easy as you are making it out to be, both financially and programming wise. It was only like that in the past because both of those things were easy and did make sense.

>>508886360
Then don't complain about China stealing stuff.

>>508886936
>cloud
literally someone else's computer running server.exe LMOA

>>508886936
>Are you going to pay the dev salaries for this to happen?
That won't be an such a large issue, IF they make game with that in mind during the development. And secondly, some devs already have offline version of that said games for testing reasons. It isn't something that takes shit times if that issue resolved DURING development.

>>508884285
>>508885943
>zoomer call ownership of a private good antiquated and defends his master

holy shit that's bleak

>>508887272
By during development, i mean while game gets built from 0.

>>508886936
>Greed is why 99% of media exists in the first place though.
Agreed. But it's also very much double edged sword sadly.

>>508885710
Minecraft was an indie game that's why it had a server executable so Notch could have other people host and play with it during development. But even with that available they still came up with the Realms service through Microsoft where people pay for a server, if that goes down your realm goes poof. Why would people even buy into that if the open server is an option? I'll tell you why, people are fucking lazy assholes and even if you give them the keys to the kingdom to run the servers, 90% won't have the patience or know-how to do so. It all boils down to players wanting to actually play the game, whether that is on official servers, maintaining community servers on their own dime, or reverse-engineering server protocols for "dead" games.

>>508885768
No shit I am outvoted but that doesn't matter because by the same token of being mainstream, there are still tons of titles from like-minded developers that actually care about the longevity of their game. Regulation won't change EA, Ubisoft, et al's practices at all as long as they are protected by IP law. At most they will just make some server thing pared down to the absolute minimum to comply in maknig it "playable", and offer zero support. Enjoy your Battlefield game filled with bots (if you're lucky) while also burdening every other game dev to comply with some bullshit EU reg that doesn't fix anything. >>508886360 is completely correct about the real solution to this problem.

>>508887069
I think you mean someone else's load balanced datacenter running OCI images loaded up with 20 different proprietary software license keys. That's the architecture nowadays. Good luck running that on your PC.

>>508887538
>Minecraft was an indie game
Not an argument. indie or multi billion dollar project there is literally no difference. People run private GTA servers, now what jew?
>someone else' lod balanced data center
I don't need load balancing if I want to run a server for 5-10 friends, jew.

>>508887341
What if the project depends on some internal company server library that does a lot of heavy lifting? If they don't use it, that's stuff they have to develop from scratch themselves and will likely have more bugs than the older, more tested library. Every time they do this for a new game, it adds to the cost.

>they can just copy/paste what they need and not release the entire library
They can't because this is shared code. Any vulnerability present can be leveraged against all games that use it. Also, this may be extremely valuable (to them) code that they don't want to just give out for free. Maybe they even already license it to other companies.

>>508887787
>that does a lot of heavy lifting?
For big companies, that won't be such a big issue. It's sure headache, but they have money to deal with. It could be problem for more indie and smaller companies so. And again it depends on what they using for development (and license of all of this)

>>508871175 (OP)
This shit all started with GamerGate & it never went away.

>>508887631
So people already solved the problem of dead games without EU regulation. Great!

>I don't need load balancing
I'm simply pointing out that it's not as simple as you make it out to be. What platform do you want Rockstar to give you server binaries for? Windows? Because that's certainly not what the official servers are running on. They can't be required to open source it for other platforms either because IP law protects their source and assets. You accuse me of being a jew while I'm pointing out it's the retarded jewish rules already in place that got us here.

>>508887787
Also i understand your view point. But issues that cause game to get nuked when servers shut down won't solve itself with time. Companies don't have reason to solve this problem and they won't (because that doesn't bring them extra money after they done selling that game) . Leaving this problem alone won't make it better, spaghetti code will get even more mamma mia (in bad way)

>>508887969
>they have money to deal with
Their money comes from you. They will raise game prices even more, cut features, and cut game sequels. Nothing is free.

>>508888103
>it's not as simple
It's literally as simple because we've been doing it for decades. Come up with a better argument instead of boo hooing jew.
>what do you mean the product I sell you has to work? REEEEE ANTI SEMITISM

>>508888202
>They will raise game prices even more
They always actively trying to increase the prices of the games. this isn't news. Increasing prices for games and etc might at some point bite them back so

>>508887969
So you admit you're introducing disproportionate regulatory burden on indie and small companies. The exact ones that are more likely to care about the longevity of their games in the first place. Wow, who could have seen that coming?

>>508888191
>Companies don't have reason to solve this problem
Yes that's the real solution. Stop buying their games and they will have a reason. If other people cancel you out then that's just how it is. I wish a lot of things would be the way I want them to but I just have to accept that reality won't change just for me.

>>508888431
>indie and small companies
indie and small companies release games that run indefinitely. Try some different pilpul.

>>508871175 (OP)
No. It’s utter nonsense. It’s like expecting to buy jeans once and Levi’s just continues to provide you new jeans every time they wear out. It will exclude the EU from gaming but that’s fine with me

>>508888497
Name an indie studio providing a forever online game that will never be turned off. Dipshit

>>508871175 (OP)
Can I sign if I'm a US citizen?

>>508888431
>So you admit you're introducing disproportionate regulatory burden on indie and small companies
Yes, when laws gets made there should be ways to reduce that burden or avoid them. Or give good amount of time before that law even kicks in into effect. And plus, you saying like game companies won't find ways to make that law affect them a lot less.

>>508871175 (OP)
This is a very important issue.
People who aren't even gamers need to be
signing this.
We need to keep our rights.

>>508883948
They paid for the game they should get to keep it.

>>508888625
No sadly. EU only

>>508888505
>Levi Struass is a German-jewish immigrant
OY VEY THEY EXPECT JEANS THAT DONT BREAK AFTER WEARING THEM ONCE. ITS ANUDA SHOA
>>508888584
There are (probably) none because indie studios don't make online games like that. They make games that you download the exe and you play it. Come up with better pilpul.

>>508888505
>It’s like expecting to buy jeans once
This argument again? Games are code, Anon. It won't slowly get damaged as time goes on . And you can backup the game and run it ten years later. You might have problem running old games on newer OS, but there is ways to fix that usually

>>508877842
How would that even work in practicality? Online games typically go through many patches and expansions that completely alter them over their lifespan. Do devs need to supply players with self-host DRM-free tools for only the final version of the game? Then you're not "preserving" all the previous radically different versions of the game, not to mention malicious actors like Ubisoft could intentionally ruin their game with a patch before ending service then release only that patched version of the game DRM-free. If devs DO need to release every single version of the game that was ever made then that kills every MMORPG and MMO-likes such as Path of Exile or Warframe (which I know some people want - because they're not really interested in preserving games but killing games they don't like). This law is retarded and unenforceable.

>>508888728
Then why do you need legislation to stop them from being turned off? Lmao even. Commies are retarded

>>508888821
Then what is the point of this legislation?

>>508888505
No it isn't like that.
Necromongers keep what they kill.

>>508888984
>Then why do you need legislation to stop them from being turned off?
jew is calling me a commie, get a load of this guy.
>>508888900
>How would that even work in practicality
Are you asking how does a game work when developers no longer update it? Stupid nigger.
>>508889071
The point of this legislation is that gaybisoft can't sell you a product for 100 dollars and then pull the plug in 2 months leaving you in the dust, jew.

Current status

>>508888984
>Then why do you need legislation to stop them from being turned off?
Because like with lootboxes, they won't self regulate

>>508888383
>we've been doing it for decades
Have you hosted stuff before? I have. Games, software, media, Java, Windows, Linux binaries, Docker, OCI images, cert validation, third party software with licenses and keys, CDNs for player content, hole-punching routing for UDP voice, incompatible libraries and architectures, federated servers, deployments that require a rat's nest of Ansible scripts, you name it. All of that and more is in modern games, and I wouldn't even want to see what and how the fuck they do things an enterprise level.
It's really not that simple and you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Yes, a smart developer COULD make it simple, but that's not what this regulation does. I'm not defending these things, just stating reality. You are purposely misrepresenting the facts because you're naive enough to think EU regulations could hope to be anything besides a barrier that eschews player and consumer choice in favor of misguided, bloated and impotent government regulation.

>>508890233
>Have you hosted stuff before
Yes, literally everything you have named I have hosted myself before. On worse hardware even. Do you have any real arguments, jew?

>>508871175 (OP)
>If we vote hard enough we can fix capitalism

>>508890233

Thank You for everything you have done.
You know what is what.

>>508878378
muh throw away culture
just buy a new car because it (((doesn't make financial sense))) to repair your current one

>>508890026
>we need to regulate the free market place of ideas

Honestly if this ends with a small label with the amount of years a game is expected to work I would be fine with it but something needs to change.
>>508888103
>So people already solved the problem of dead games without EU regulation.
That did not happen universally because of DRM.

Sorry fren. Murican. Can't help ya. Post it on krautchan and ylilauta and stuff like that.

>>508890338
It's ironic you're calling me a jew while giving them more power to bludgeon the little guy with. Enjoy that boot I guess. Just don't come complaining when the only thing left is AAA slop because they're the only ones that can afford the liability of releasing a game in the EU while simultaneously worming their way out of your precious regulation through loopholes and technicalities.

>>508879077
EA isn't a real gaming company.
They are more like the Auschwitz of gaming companies.

>>508871175 (OP)
>>508872197
Why not just use GOG, for any Games you want to actually keep, they're DRM Free on there and you can still play online and even get achievements, but if GOG were to ever shutdown you still own all of the Games on there so long as you have them downloaded.

>>508890926
>bludgeon the little guy with
OY VEY I'm just a multi billion dollar small family company. Expecting me to put out a product that doesn't self destruct after 2 years? literally the holocaust!

>>508891617
This is the least retarded option available today. Even when they de-list games you still have them in your library and can still download the installers.

>>508888984
I swear libertarians are the biggest cucks on the planet
>NOOOO you can't use political power to get what you want! Only multinational corporations are allowed to do that!

>>508871175 (OP)
>noooooo I NEED my hecking videoslopperino
For what? So you've got something to do while Tyrone is banging your wife upstairs?
The last game worth playing came out like 15 years ago anyway, just pirate that and keep it on a hard drive for when you need it again

>>508892429
>>508871175 (OP)
Games have sucked once they became nothing but a micro transaction sales platform. Niggas trying to sell me a skin for $450 and shit now.

>>508871175 (OP)
For some reason it seems like peoples brain completely shuts off when it comes to software so here is an example that should make it more easy
>be me
>buy new sony hdtv
>le me enjoying my tv for a year
>sony releases oled tv
>sony send employee to my house with a hammer
>employee smashes my tv
>"now you can buy the oledtv"

This is exactly what is going on you bought a product and the company you bought it from vandalizes it so you buy the new one.

This idea that they just can't do it is false and retarded. There are tons of older games before this practice became common that allow you to host multiplayer servers, Community efforts have resulted in custom built servers etc but it requires information and willingness from the developer to make this possible in the future. Currently devs are doing everything in their power to create as many hurdles.
Seperately there is the whole piracy coping from companies that abuse their copyright to ensure the work isn't distributed so you once again have to buy the new version.

>>508892429
Nigger you're gay

>>508892429
>Someone posted about something?
>Quick think how do i make this about black cock.

>>508871267
slightly skinnier than I imagined. That's the only difference

>>508882233
>>508883948
It actually enforced them to enable OTHER people to run servers when the company is done with the game, it doesn't force the company upkeep the game forever as you have assumed for some reason

>>508893344
>>508893504
Germanics pissing their pants and seething as usual, showing once again that the human domestication project in the west has been a massive success
Let me guess, you also pay for shit like Netflix, OF, food delivery etc

>>508894348
I liked Croatia more when it was part of Austria

>>508894776
Me too.

>>508871175 (OP)
What would even be the (Jewish) argument against it

I've seen a few smaller titles move away from live service back to player hosting and dedicated servers. Why pay for server hosting to prevent people from unlocking the MTX for free if nobody's buying the MTX anyway?