Thread 508892094

HAPPENING!!!! TRUMPS EXECUTIVE ORDER ENDING BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP FOR THE CHILDREN OF ILLEGAL INVADERS OF THE FOREIGN INVADING ARMIES HAS BEEN UPHELD BY THE US SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA STATING THAT NATIONAL INJUNCTIONS PLACED SINGULAR

BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP OFFICIALLY ENDS FOR THE MUTANT OFFSPRING OF ILLEGAL INVADERS ON JUNE 27th, 2025!!!!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-birthright-citizenship-universal-injunctions/

This decision means that children of illegals will be granted Passports and citizenship in California and New York but not in Ohio and other places.

This creates CHAOS which will FORCE SCOTUS to finally rule on the constitutionality of Birthright Citizenship for the mutant offspring of the SOLDIERS OF THE FOREIGN INVADING ARMIES!

THIS IS THE FIRST STEP FORWARD IN THE QUEST TO END BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP FOR THE MUTANT OFFSPRING OF THE SOLDIERS OF THE FOREIGN INVADING ARMY IN MORE THAN 140 YEARS! NOT SINCE THE 1870s! HUUUUUUGE WIN!!!

Once again for those who don't understand what this means; this means that a child of an illegal could be born and granted Citizenship in Boston and then their family moves to Texas for "work" and that Child's Citizenship status will NOT be recognized under the state of Texas! HUUUUUGE WIN!!!! BIGGEST WIN IN OVER A CENTURY!!!

LINK TO HISTORIC RULING STRIKING DOWN NATIONAL INJUNCTIONS AGAINST A SITTING PRESIDENT: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a884_8n59.pdf

>>508892094 (OP)
ROLLING FOR RIOTS AND CIVIL WAR

*INJUNCTIONS PLACED BY SINGULAR JUDGES ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

HUUUUGE WIN!!!! BIGGEST WIN SINCE END OF CIVIL WAR!

DIGITS AND STATES DELCARE WAR ON EACH OTHER..

>>508892094 (OP)
Today’s ruling had more to do with the issue of individual judges being able to order nationwide injunctions that tie government’s hands. The actual constitutionality of Trump’s order on birthright citizenship has yet to be decided.

>>508892094 (OP)
>HAS BEEN UPHELD BY THE US SUPREME COURT
>This creates CHAOS which will FORCE SCOTUS to finally rule on the constitutionality of Birthright Citizenship
>THIS IS THE FIRST STEP FORWARD
You're fucking retarded. Learn to write or kill yourself.

>>508892502
And killing nationwide injections? Which crippled Biden as well too. Dumb SCOTUS.

Can't stunt the Trump

>>508892494
It doesn't matter, that will come at a later date. These STAYS allow Trump to effectively enforce his EO on Birthright Citizenship until SCOTUS is FORCED to make a ruling on it which is something they have REFUSED to even remotely touch since 1898 with Wong Kim Ark.

The CHAOS this ruling will create as Texas enforces Trumps Executive Order and even makes it state law while San Diego continues to grant citizenship to every child of illegal will FORCE SCOTUS to make a ruling on the 14th amendment.

>>508892094 (OP)
Digits and we have at least another year for civilians to prepare for wartime shortages and rationing.

rolling for IBM buying Thinkpad back from china

>>508892094 (OP)
Judges can only make decisions for their jurisdiction, not for the nation. The only court that holds sway over the nation is the SCOTUS, as it is meant to. These cases must go through the proper process.

>>508892094 (OP)
>This decision means that children of illegals will be granted Passports and citizenship in California and New York but not in Ohio and other places.

This can't be true, it doesn't make sense. They could just leave.

>>508892899
Correct, SCOTUS is upholding the US Constitution.

>>508892957
It is true, it doesn't make sense, and it will force SCOTUS to make a ruling on the constitutionality of birthright citizenship for the children of illegal migrants.

>>508892094 (OP)
where's the cutoff line? my grandfather came here from Ireland, am i fucked?

>>508893022
It will be 6-3 in favor of ending birthright citizenship and that weird negress Jackson whatever will write another retarded dissent

There is NO RULING by SCOTUS that states that the children of illegal aliens are citizens, that is NOT what the 14th amendment says either and it is NOT what the author of Clause 1 of the 14th amendment says in constitutional record, and it is NOT what SCOTUS precedent says.

Here is how it stands today:

1: Constitution says that children of illegals do NOT have citizenship.

2: Precedent set by SCOTUS in Wong Kim Ark states that children of LAWFUL PERMANENT RESIDENTS have citizenship.

3: The author of 14th Amendment Clause 1 Senator Jacob Howard, specifically excludes the children of illegal aliens from birthright citizenship when he offers his definition of the words "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof"

THEREFORE a ruling is required by SCOTUS NOW to clarify if the children of illegal aliens are covered under the 14th amendment and given all of the historical context and precedent set by previous SCOTUS majority opinions... the answer is CRYSTAL CLEAR.

Also SCOTUS rulings on constitutional questions and interpretations are RETROACTIVE because to argue otherwise would be to claim that SCOTUS has the power to alter the US Constitution or to "make laws" which they do not. Only through the utilization of Article V in the US constitution can the US Constitution be amended and only Congress has the power to write, vote on federal laws which are ultimately signed into law by the President of the United States.

>>508893164
Did your grandfather come here illegally? If not, then you’re fine.

>>508892290
digits for civil unrest

>>508892094 (OP)
Let’s hurry up and deport Baron

>>508893338
Was she granted her Visa before or after she got pregnant?

>>508892094 (OP)
We charging admission.

>>508893386
Way after

>>508893302
Rolling

>>508892094 (OP)
it's only temporarily in effect, they will decide for real in October and I don't think they'll go for it

>>508892094 (OP)
citizens are PERSONs
PERSONs are birthed like vessels and legal fictions
son and daughters are born
of mothers and fathers
whomst are only man or woman
hue of man is not man but is animal or PERSONs
men and women are not corporation but living on land soil jurisdiction
sea jurisdiction is commerce maritime admiralty war where satan/poseidon cast down jurisdiction of PERSONs is least of jurisdictions and has no lawful money
you is plural

>>508893164
it's not retroactive

>>508892094 (OP)
now you only need to deport like 100 million of bastard spawn mutts

>>508893277
>Also SCOTUS rulings on constitutional questions and interpretations are RETROACTIVE
this isn't going to happen. like, I know you are postulating this as some sort of universal truth, and it may or may not be I don't know, but even if it is they will specifically set it aside in this one case because of the sheer disruption and chaos it will create. illegals of course can't give birth to citizens, but there is zero percent chance this will be retroactive.

There is NO RULING by SCOTUS that states that the children of illegal aliens are citizens, that is NOT what the 14th amendment says either and it is NOT what the author of Clause 1 of the 14th amendment says in constitutional record, and it is NOT what SCOTUS precedent says.

Here is how it stands today:

1: Constitution says that children of illegals do NOT have citizenship.

2: Precedent set by SCOTUS in Wong Kim Ark states that children of LAWFUL PERMANENT RESIDENTS have citizenship.

3: The author of 14th Amendment Clause 1 Senator Jacob Howard, specifically excludes the children of illegal aliens from birthright citizenship when he offers his definition of the words "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof"

4: On June 27th, 2025 SCOTUS ruled that the National Injunctions that were placed against Trumps Executive Order were unlawful and thus the Trump Administration was granted Stays in multiple states which now allows them to enforce the Birthright Citizenship order in those states.

>Trumps Executive Order States:
“policy of the United States” to no longer ISSUE or ACCEPT documentation of citizenship in two scenarios: “(1) when [a] person’s mother was unlawfully present in the United States and the person’s father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth, or (2) when [a] person’s mother’s presence in the United States was lawful but temporary, and the person’s father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth.”

THEREFORE a ruling is required by SCOTUS NOW to clarify if the children of illegal aliens are covered under the 14th amendment and given all of the historical context and precedent set by previous SCOTUS majority opinions... the answer is CRYSTAL CLEAR.

Trumps Executive Order States:
“policy of the United States” to no longer issue or accept documentation of citizenship in two scenarios: “(1) when [a] person’s mother was unlawfully present in the United States and the person’s father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth, or (2) when [a] person’s mother’s presence in the United States was lawful but temporary, and the person’s father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth.”


THIS IS NOW THE LAW OF THE LAND IN MULTIPLE STATES AS OF JUNE 27th, 2025!
HUUUUGE NEWS!!!

>>508892607
It's not a issue since issue like biden that effect all actual citizens are default valid even if a single lawyer takes the case since he is defection affected.

>>508893338
Trump is a us citizen so he gives his son it

>>508893673
and trump's son

>>508892094 (OP)
What is going to happen. How can this be used?

>>508893288
> come here illegally?
Do you know what was going on in Ireland 40 years ago?

>>508893277
this shit feels fucking pointless when they could just import infinite H1Bs because apparently thats ok because they're "legal"

>>508893850
Defacto*

>>508893977
H1Bs are also NOT covered by the 14th amendment so you could import them but their children wouldn't be considered American Citizens and neither would they.

>>508893977
Demoralize shills are desperate today

A visa is not citizenship

>>508893592
What's the point then? Closing the barn door after the horse got out?

>>508893974
IRA is just commies dude, they're super pro unlimited African immigration.

>>508893937
trump is a citizen, dummy, therefore his son is a citizen

>>508893936
Not how it works. Sad he’ll have to go to South America.

>>508894062
The ONLY exception are "Permanent Residents" and the only way to gain "Permanent Residency Status" is to obtain a "PERMANENT RESIDENCY STATUS CARD" which is commonly known as a Green Card.

Once you are recognized as a "PERMANENT RESIDENT STATUS CARD HOLDER WHO IS NOT LOYAL TO ANY OTHER NATION OR GOVERNMENT" then you become under the "jurisdiction thereof" the United States of America and thus your children are granted US Citizenship upon birth, AKA Birthright Citizenship.

This was decided in the last time SCOTUS debated this which was The United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

>>508894143
SCOTUS rulings on constitutional questions and interpretations are RETROACTIVE because to argue otherwise would be to claim that SCOTUS has the power to alter the US Constitution or to "make laws" which they do not. Only through the utilization of Article V in the US constitution can the US Constitution be amended and only Congress has the power to write, vote on federal laws which are ultimately signed into law by the President of the United States.

>>508893974
Damn you’re young if your grandfather came here 40 years ago. My grandfather was born here (but 100% Irish) and went back to Ireland to live for a while during the aftermath of the 1916 Easter rising

>>508892094 (OP)
>>508892290
>children of illegals will be granted Passports and citizenship in California and New York but not in Ohio and other places.
There's scotus cases saying you can be a state citizen without being a federal citizen

You can also be a federal citizen without being a state citizen, which opens some interesting options for you such as not needing a drivers license or insurance

>>508892290
NEH

>>508892094 (OP)
Can they remove it going back in time? There are so many pieces of shit in the US who are anchor babies. For example Hasan Piker is an anchor baby.

>>508894407
Yes, see here >>508894321

>>508894251
>nce you are recognized as a "PERMANENT RESIDENT STATUS CARD HOLDER WHO IS NOT LOYAL TO ANY OTHER NATION OR GOVERNMENT"
this was obviously prior to the invention of the legal fiction known as dual citizenship

>>508894321
>RETROACTIVE
again, not going to happen. I don't care if this is their policy going back to Marbury v Madison, in this specific instance it is not going to happen

>>508894481
It's the law of the land, it is federal law, it is constitutional law and if you wish to change it then you can utilize your Article V powers that are granted to you in the US Constitution to amend the US Constitution to make it say what you want it to say.

>>508894472
I'm too stupid for that legal speak, dog.
Yes or no?

>>508894533
To argue otherwise would be to argue that SCOTUS will REFUSE to Uphold the U.S Constitution which I find hard to believe especially after the decision today on National Injunctions and the constitutionality of a Presidents Executive Order.

>>508892961
>Correct, SCOTUS is upholding the US Constitution.
actual retard

>>508893937
Trump is a u.s citizen. This is about 2 illegals having anchor babies. Shit, even today a guy marrying a foreigner is less of a pain in the ass to have her living in the u.s than anywhere else in the world, including Europe. Euros just want browns in their countries which is why this is such a mess for white Euros. White Americans can't just squat like niggers can in Europe. Why not? Negrophilia.

>>508894210
How does it work then.

When this is finally ruled, it needs to be retroactive.

>>508892393
That ruling isn't very inclusive. What about the migrant children who have two mothers or two fathers?

>>508894579
>It's the law of the land, it is federal law, it is constitutional law
dual citizenship only came about due to a supreme court decision in 1967, Afroyim v. Rusk. The Warren court was truly an abomination.

>>508894739
SCOTUS rulings on constitutional questions are retroactive meaning that if they can prove (Palantir) that you are the great-great grandson of an illegal migrant then you lose your citizenship and so does everyone else in your family line.

>>508894657
>To argue otherwise would be to argue that SCOTUS will REFUSE to Uphold the U.S Constitution
>which I find hard to believe
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
ridiculous. the number of loose ends they create by making this retroactive is simply untenable. they will not do this

It was already decided in 1897.

>>508894917
They WILL uphold the U.S Constitution just as they did today - They swore an oath to uphold the U.S Constitution.

>>508894657
we'd have to deport Trump if they followed your logic

>>508895014
>they swore an oath
lol. lmao ,even

>>508895045
Are you arguing that SCOTUS judges do not swear an oath to uphold the U.S Constitution? Is that your argument?

>>508894739
>the United States
is a corporation
men and women are not born into corporation

>Immigrants born outside of the states that fought Trump won't have their birthright citizenship

Congrats, Red hats, you tore the US in 2.

>>508892094 (OP)
MAGA is so fucking dumb. My professor was one of the people who testified before the Senate on the universal injunction.

You are still going to lose upon cert being granted.

>>508895083
my argument is this will never be retroactive.
law is fiction, mutually agreed upon. oaths are just words, nothing more

>>508895161
the states that fought trump don't have guns so they'll be easy to take back into the union.

>>508892094 (OP)
>we're gonna deport you to taiwan
please fucking do this

>>508895393
I choose to believe in the US Constitution, our founding fathers wisdom, and in the integrity of the judges in the highest courts of our land. And my trust and belief in the system paid off today when SCOTUS decided to uphold the US Constitution and grant STAYS for the unconstitutional Universal Injunctions placed upon the Trump Administration by singular, radical lower-court judges.

>>508895083
Congratulations on completing your AP history class. Here in the real world politicians break oaths all the time. The mere existence of the FBI, NSA, and ATF are on their face unconstitutional and yet they continue to be upheld by SCOTUS and Congress. If oaths factored into anything real everybody in DC would have been hanged by the neck until dead decades ago

>>508892094 (OP)
NOOOOOOO THE RECONQUISTA!!!

>>508892094 (OP)
This means every beaner in the USA is going to move to California, great

>>508894376
>Damn you’re young if your grandfather came here 40 years ago.
im the anchor baby not my parents

>>508892695
Digits and nobody will be ready for what comes next.

>>508892094 (OP)
WHAT THE FUCK I LOVE LAWKEKS NOW

>>508892290
Nah best case scenario is that immigrants huddle up in sanctuary cities which have their leaders replaced by communists. I wonder if they'll actually react their way into slavery.

>...

"On April 14, 1802, the actual United States in Congress Assembled passed United
States Statute-at-Large 2, 153, Chapter 28, Subsection 1. The actual government
of, for, and by the people clearly defined the necessary process for any American to
ever become a United States Citizen---that is, a British Subject merely residing on
the land of the United States--- a process requiring multiple notices and conscious
acts by consenting adults confirmed by public officials and on the public record over
a period of two years --- not an undisclosed "implied" contract foisted off under
conditions of deceit upon babies in their cradles and women recovering from
childbirth."

>>508895499
belief has even less to do with reality than words and law
the remedy you are imagining is simply to onerous to implement. therefore it will not be implemented

>>508895957
We have a democratic republic outlined by the constitution. Commies are just pissing into the wind and if push comes to shove people can just kill them for being insurrectionists.

B-but spic Fuentes assured me Trump wouldn't do anything!

>>508894739
Once again you dumb fuck. A legislator's opinion is not the opinion of all of Congress that ratified that clause.

Second, you misread it. Foreigners and aliens only apply to ambassadors and foreign ministers; i.e., individuals with no intention to immigrate.

God you're so fucking stupid, lynch yourself.

>>508896059
I choose to be optimistic, and there is nothing you can do to make me less optimistic considering that I continue to WIN on every front.

>>508892397
Do you even know how to get digits? My turn.

>>508896135
Wong Kim Ark addressed a very narrow legal question: whether a child born in the United States to lawful permanent residents of Chinese descent was entitled to citizenship under the 14th Amendment. The case did not, despite the conventional wisdom over decades, reach the question of whether children born to parents illegally in the United States were entitled to citizenship under the amendment.

In other words, it did not answer whether those not subject to the political jurisdiction thereof were entitled to birthright citizenship. The court ruled in favor of Wong Kim Ark, concluding that the children of lawful permanent residents who are “domiciled” in the United States are entitled to birthright citizenship.

Wong Kim Ark did not address the question of whether children born to individuals who are unlawfully present in the United States qualify for birthright citizenship, no matter how many jews say otherwise.

The 1898 case is available for all to read here: https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/169/649

The opposition knows that the facts and the constitution support my arguments this is why they DO NOT wish for the Trump Administration to present these arguments in front of SCOTUS because they KNOW they WILL LOSE.

>>508892393
Once again citing to dicta. Holy shit 4chan users need to actually be mass executed. Like dig your own grave and shot in the back of the head. You are the reason our country will lose WW3.

>>508896223
It helps if you actually pay homage to get holders. Like this
>>508895499
Chkd and optimistic pilled.

HUUUUUGE NEWS!

>>508896250
Once again, you're wrong. Here's the concise summary based on the fact that Wong Kim Ark's family were not, ambassadors and foreign ministers.

"In a 6-to-2 decision, the Court ruled in favor of Wong Kim Ark. Because he was born in the United States and his parents were not “employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China,” the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment automatically made him a U.S. citizen. This case highlighted a disagreement between the Justices over the precise meaning of one key phrase in the Citizenship Clause: “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”


Thus - reaffirming what I previously said. You lose.

When you have a J.D. then you can talk

>>508896335
>4chan users
Go back. These aren't 4chan users. They're seething tourists on a visa both on the board and in whatever country they are seething from.
Gets and they will be deported into ww3 which will be far away from u.s soil.

>>508896596
You do realize that the universal injunction is the reason that all student debt wasn't forgiven, right?

>>508896697
No you're right, they aren't 4Chan users. They're actually subhuman.

>>508892494
Nationwide injunctions were a more pressing concern. There's only so much time left until the midterms, and rogue liberal judges were committed to stalling the administration so that democrats can campaign on Trumps term being a failure.

>>508896637
WRONG
SCOTUS goes out of their way to mention the parents PERMANENT RESIDENCY STATUS over and over and over again in the ruling see pic related which can be found here: https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/169/649

>>508892094 (OP)
Everyone who was brought in after the immigration act of 1964 should have their citizenship revoked.

>>508896637
>J.D.
A what?

>>508892650
>The CHAOS this ruling will create as Texas enforces Trumps Executive Order and even makes it state law while San Diego continues to grant citizenship to every child of illegal will FORCE SCOTUS to make a ruling on the 14th amendment.
No, this means the illegals will focus on entering via cali, so Trump can focus on that border instead of all the states

>>508892094 (OP)
Let me know when the anchor babies actually get deported

>>508892094 (OP)
Cool, deport Barron Trump

>>508893768
Not for 30 more days. Because they will appeal it.

If our country was literally built by migrants, how can we even debate birthright citizenship?

The core of the American idea was foreigners looking for freedom. I can't think of anything more un-American than this.

>>508897198
Appeal to which court? There is no higher court than SCOTUS.

>>508892094 (OP)
Leaving this here since MAGA retards don't know how to read.

>>508897267
Scotus didn't grant cert to the case on the merits; it granted cert to the matter of the injunction. Learn the difference.

>>508897212
Look, that was before we turned this place into a fucking welfare state home of the giant pussies with gibs and taking away the guns of all.

>>508893974
>History lessons on americans

>>508896250
>it did not answer whether those not subject to the political jurisdiction thereof were entitled to birthright citizenship.
The jurisdiction clause refers specifically to diplomats. Subject to jurisdiction thereof means bound by the laws of the land. Diplomats have diplomatic immunity and their embassies and offices are considered foreign soil, so they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US. Everybody else on US soil is.

>>508897299
>within the dominion of the United States
way to dunk on yourself retard.
Now what does the 14th Amendment say?
>and subject to the jurisidiction thereof!
And who did SCOTUS determine were under the jurisdiction thereof in 1898? They determined that LAWFUL PERMANENT RESIDENCE were under the dominion, the jurisdiction thereof the United States of America.

>>508897002
The permanent residency was not central to the holding. What was central was that they were domiciled and not a foreign ambassador.

The holding specifically states citizenship by birth within the dominion. Domicile is what holds here. Where you consider HOME to be.

>>508897460
>Subject to jurisdiction thereof means bound by the laws of the land.
WRONG.
If that were true a country could declare war on the US and then invade and occupy half of Arizona and then all of the children born, the rape babies, from the occupying force would be considered US Citizens and could run for President under your interpretation of the law because the Occupying force is still technically "subject to the laws of the land" they just aren't complying with them and thus the rape babies are US Citizens.

>>508893164
>where's the cutoff line?
Read Trump's executive order, the cuttoff was 30 days after it was signed, which I believe was February 20th of this year. If you were already a citizen by that point, then the wording is pretty clear that you have nothing to fear.

>>508897212
No. The core was Europeans looking to unshackle themselves from gay kings that didn't allow land ownership while they were dementedly endebting everyone to a central bank.
>you have to pay my debts
>ok, let me own the land
>ummmm, no, you are a subject of the crown
>gas yourself crypto-kike
Thus america was borne.

>>508897654
Executive Orders do NOT supersede SCOTUS rulings on Constitutional Questions.

SCOTUS rulings on constitutional questions and interpretations are RETROACTIVE because to argue otherwise would be to claim that SCOTUS has the power to alter the US Constitution or to "make laws" which they do not. Only through the utilization of Article V in the US constitution can the US Constitution be amended and only Congress has the power to write, vote on federal laws which are ultimately signed into law by the President of the United States.

>>508897626
Post your shit-colored hand. I'm right, I'm White, and I'm not here to debate. I'm here to tell your black ass what's up.

>>508897468
Do you even know what the word domicile refers to within law? It's home. It's permanent; but not as in permanent residency, but where you would consider home enough to always return to. And you can only have one of those - and for illegals, it's the United States. The place they have moved to.

>>508897748
Do you even know what LAWFUL PERMANENT RESIDENCY AND DOMICILE means?

>>508897743
You're literally a mutt

>>508892094 (OP)
May New York and Cali be Brown!

>>508897729
>RETROACTIVE
and, yet again, this will not happen

>>508897792
Lawful permanent residency was not central to the holding - do you see LPR mentioned ANYWHERE IN THE HOLDING - NO NOT THE FACTS OF THE CASE; THE HOLDING.

The fact you do not know the difference is why lawyers are paid so highly, your stupid ass would talk yourself into a felony.

>>508897809
Your skin is black and your post smells like chicken grease. If we weren't on the internet I would flog your nigger ass for speaking White matters in the presence of White men.

>>508897925
the legal status of the plantiff was central to the decision

>>508897987
Beanoids will be deported until morale improves. Like, actually deported and not Obamas gay deportation that just released them into the states to self deport with orders from the court that libshits like to bring up.

>>508894321
>RETROACTIVE
What is the deadline? Deport all italian-americans, jewish-americans, serbian-americans

>>508897729
You're just making a case for amnesty.

>>508897443
Then the problem isn't migrants but failed welfare projects. I guarantee you most migrants didn't move to the US for welfare.

I voted Trump because i wanted control on the borders as a matter of national security. I do not think mass deportations on farm laborers, construction workers or what have you contributes anything to me, you or any american, if anything it's highly detrimental for many industries and growth.

I am so tired of extreme left or right. I just for once want to.see a government that just do.shit that works and helps.

>>508898188
They can stay unlike Mexicans lol

>>508898174
Unless you work on Kristi Noam's farm or are maid in Trump's hotels, then you get amnesty. It's the republican way.

>>508892397
>>508896223
>>508896596
Amateurs

>>508892650
>These STAYS allow Trump to effectively enforce his EO
and every president after him lol, have fun in 4 years.

>>508897925
The following is a quote from Charles J. Cooper from Cooper & Kirk Law Firm which testified UNDER OATH in front of the House Judiciary Committee on February 25th, 2025.

>COOPER: Why did its framers choose such a strange way to say that (and subject to the jurisdiction thereof)? Why didn't they just say subject to the laws of the United States? Doing so would've been quite natural given that this straightforward, unambiguous phrase is used in both Article III and Article VI.

>The clause also ensures that birthright citizenship makes newborns citizens of both the United States. And of the states wherein they reside, that is where they live, their home. This word standing alone implies a lawful permanent residence, and it plainly excludes tourists and other lawful visitors, as well as illegal aliens who are prohibited by law from residing in a state.

>Although they all must obey our laws.

The full Transcript can be found here: https://www.congress.gov/119/chrg/CHRG-119hhrg59353/CHRG-119hhrg59353.pdf

>>508897925
In The United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) it is stated in the majority SCOTUS ruling that (emphasis mine):
>The fourteenth amendment affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, IN THE ALLEGIANCE AND UNDER THE PROTECTION OF THE COUNTRY, including all children here born of RESIDENT ALIENS, with the exceptions or qualifications (as old as the rule itself) of children of foreign sovereigns and their ministers, or born on foreign public ships, or of enemies within and during hostile occupation of part of our territory, and with the single additional exception of children of members of the Indian tribes OWING DIRECT ALLEGIANCE TO THEIR SEVERAL TRIBES.

For a person born within the territory of the United States to be "subject to the jurisdiction thereof", it appears from the above passage that the person MUST at birth owe a sufficiently direct duty of allegiance to the sovereign in return for the sovereigns reciprocal obligation to protection. The child of members of an Indian tribe who owe direct allegiance to their tribe does NOT qualify, although clearly born within the territory of the United States.

NOR DO THE CHILDREN OF ALIENS WHO ARE HERE ILLEGALLY.

>>508894210
That's how it works in the rest of the world.
You take your father's citizenship, regardless of where you or he happen to be living when you're born.

>>508898279
>meme flaggot

>>508898338
Do you realize that farms are ran by custom combiners that run massive machines and 99% of them are whites, retard? Kek. You don't know shit about farming. Pickaderos are allowed to work. That hasn't changed. The faggots smuggling gangsters and drugs are the ones getting smoked out. Complain all you want but farming isn't ran by beans. Beans are picked by machines ran by white men. Most everything is. I don't care about the beans working food processing plants. Native Americans will go back to Tyson and reclaim the towns that spics took over. You seriously don't know shit. T. Land owner in the northern plains that has ties going back to the 1600s, you fuck.

>>508892094 (OP)
Thank god.
I know the funding fathers were great and all, and all hail them forever and so on, but that one was a serious fuck up!

How is reddit so fucking gay and retarded, how can anyone take this site seriously. It probably raises the cortisol levels of ever retarded karen around.

>>508898877
No, this is UPHOLDING the constitution as it ALWAYS WAS.

>>508896135
If he only intended for it to be applied to families of ambassadors I don't see why he would've said "foreigners, aliens". He would've just said "this will not apply to families of ambassadors."

>>508895161
Constitutionally, the federal government grants US Citizenship, according to a specific set of rules. It's not the decision of the individual states. Same with who gets to be in the country.

>>508892094 (OP)
Oh no, white women will be bitching to me about this for the next week.

>>508894481
>legal fiction known as dual citizenship
There is no such thing. If a person is a citizen of a nation, then that nation will not recognize that person's citizenship of any other nation.
If you are a USA citizen, it doesn't matter if any other nation claims you, the USA deems you a citizen.
There's nothing wrong with holding multiple citizenships, but if you wanted to make disclosure or prohibition for politicians and/or state employees, I'd be on board with that.

>>508898900
...after that, they had pretty much solved all the problems, so they stopped coming for people.

>>508892094 (OP)
Wait, that's illegal.

>>508892094 (OP)
they didn't rule on that

>>508898900
Chkd and kekd.
>we are next
I fucking hope. If you don't have an army of worth-a-shit people to back you up then you're probably a piece of shit. I couldn't be less worried. Plebbit fear-mongering is like a fantasy for me. Yes, start the secret police and the food deserts and whatever.
>but it was supposed to be us, as librarians and teachers of non-binary studies, that were supposed to take over
Kek

>>508899442
No, but the universal injunctions are removed which allows the Trump Administration to begin to enforce the Executive Order in states where there are not injunctions that are still moving through the courts.

This will force SCOTUS to make a ruling on the 14th.

>>508899219
>nothing wrong with multiple citizenships
You’re next after the spics, moshe

>>508899558
that in itself is a massive deal absolutely

>>508898776
Not that anon but out of the 80% of farm laborers are latinos, out of it 32% of farm workers aren't "pickaderos" working seasonally but stay amd work permanently, legally or otherwise.

About 30% of construction workers, in some specialized sectors such as roofing more than 50%.

Oil rigs over 20%

I can continue with factories, hotels and more but it's safe to say there are a lot of industries white (or black for that matter) america doesnt like.

>>508892094 (OP)
>TRUMPS EXECUTIVE ORDER ENDING BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP FOR THE CHILDREN OF ILLEGAL INVADERS OF THE FOREIGN INVADING ARMIES HAS BEEN UPHELD BY THE US SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA STATING THAT NATIONAL INJUNCTIONS PLACED SINGULAR
Not quite. They held that federal judges constantly cockblocking the white house were exceeding their authority. Birthright citizenship is still to come.

>>508892650
If you are born here and your mother is here legally you are a citizen, if they are here illegally then so are you. Simple as. Should be a 9-0 but 9-3 will suffice. And please make the negress right another reddit tier chimpout dissent

Anchor baby shit is fucking stupid, the constitution wasn't written with wetbacks in mind

>>508892094 (OP)
based and redpilled if true
Now Trump can destroy his legacy only by giving citizenship to a significant number of illegal aliens. Let's see if he will.

>>508899837
It means that the EO can be enforced in places like Texas. It's a HUGE deal.

>>508899707
>farm laborers
That's your stupid fucking probelm. 3 white men can farm 20,000 acres. Sure, strawberries are picked by spics and I hope those faggots are forced to figure out how to mechanize the process or people, like me, just pick their own. It's called a freezer, anon. You think those California strawberries are fresh? Kek. Pick your own fucking peaches, nigger.

>>508899639
Am Anglo, tell me why I can't also have citizenship with the country of my heritage? That's between me and them.

>>508895856
Rolling.

>>508892290
I HATE NIGGERS
TOTAL KIKE DEATH

>>508892957
the federal government has sole control over naturalization laws.
there were injunctions in california and ny. the scouts is saying that judges can only issue injunctions for their own jurisdiction, king hawaii judge can't rule over the whole nation

>>508892094 (OP)
only 80 years too late ese

>>508892094 (OP)
>This decision means that children of illegals will be granted Passports and citizenship in California and New York but not in Ohio and other places.
You don't get citizenship to a state dumb ass

>>508900079
Correct, thus it becomes a constitutional crisis and thus SCOTUS has to make a ruling.
Thanks for keeping up, kiddo.

>>508892290
Digits for nothing happens

>>508899956
Oh, for sure, just not quite that.

>>508900076
you are literally indian. everyone in bongland is indian. your dad, indian. you are shitting in the street while posting that

>>508900076
It’s never too late for war and Balkanization, jeet.

>>508899707
Here's a novel idea, take your fat ass family to a farm with a few baskets and pick your own fruit and veg one day instead of checking out on the couch like the apathetic fat piece of shit you are pretending "i.t" work precludes you from engaging with your most basic necessity and somehow your hubris means we need a slave class of illegals to some basic ass shit for you so you can continue to be a fat piece of shit until your children have to literally carry you because you're too afraid to fuck off and die. Get with it.

>>508897212
>migrants

when the settlers arrive in the1650s, there was no government.

>>508900079
yes, but a judge put up an injunction in ny and california. before this ruling judges could do injunctions over the whole of the US. Remember the king hawaii judge shit? now the scotus is saying only the scotus can give national injunctions and lower courts can only give injunctions for their own jurisdictions.
this creates a court split and means the SCOTUS must resolve the anchor baby situation soon

>>508898338
>>508898776
>>508899707
>>508900476
raise wages if you want humans to work those jobs. otherwise cry as the brownoid slaves are deported

IF THE OPPOSITION WISHES TO CHANGE FEDERAL LAW AND THE US CONSTITUTION THEY MUST UTILIZE THEIR ARTICLE V POWERS AND AMEND THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.

>>508900489
The Hispanic Empire.

>>508900843
Incorrect, it was the New Netherlands, a Dutch Republic.

>>508897913
Imagine all the French Canadian stock that would be deported

>>508900823
Quit basedjacking faggot. The demographic damage is long done. I'm tapping the sign + your mom's fat ass

>>508900635
End all farm workers so fat pieces of shit have to get off their ass and get their own food. End plastic manufacturing for food so we can stop poisoning our selves. End subsidizing obesity. Get your fat ass off the couch and go pick your own food while we grow it and kick out the beaners.

>>508901147
For $45 an hour?

this is just the supreme court cucking out as usual you retards. they will rule against trump when they do the case in october. all this does is prevent the lower courts from blocking everything until the supreme court releases its ruling. which will obviously be kiked because the court is packed 7-2 with deepstate kikes and golems

>>508892393
>HUUUUGE WIN!!!! BIGGEST WIN SINCE END OF CIVIL WAR!
Curb stomp of the Deep State continues.
Only the MSM remains.

>>508901270
Yes, a man with an honest full time job should be able to have a house, a car, a housewife, and ten kids.

>>508892494
>The actual constitutionality of Trump’s order on birthright citizenship has yet to be decided.
Cope more.
Because it's obviously constitutional. If it wasn't the ruling would have been different.

>>508897743
>ad hominem
you know you lost.

>>508900962
>an illegal state inside Spain
America was founded as Spain in 1493 AD, the highests courts already settled that matter and doubled down in the years that followed.

>>508901270
Pick the food yourself because you will starve to death if you don't regardless of income.

>>508892397
Fuck beaners
Fuck spics
Fuck shitskins

>>508901633
>illegal state
An illegal state that occupied ALL of the east coast of what is now known as the Lower 48 of the United States. Which also happens to be the location of the original 13 colonies. You know those stars on the flag?

>>508901749
>stars
Stripes*

>>508900489
>settlers arrive in the1650s
In other words migrated from another continent. And later decided to live here.
>settlers

>>508902104
>california was mexican clay!!!!
>for 27 years
Fuck them.

fuck all jeet ceos importing jeets from jeetland

>>508901749
Everything you posted applies to the Hispanic Empire since 1493 AD.

>>508902206
It was Hispanic clay before that.

>>508892494
I mean it needed to happen, the amount of judicial fuckery was incredible
The issued more of those constitutionally tenuous (now clearly unconstitutional) injunctions in the first six months of the second orange man presidency than in the past century combined.

>>508892961
Are surprise to be sure but a welcome one

>>508892397
Numerals and California and Texas nuke each other over illegal immigrants

>>508902701
Spain was under the control of Arabs for 800 years, does that mean the Iberian peninsula still belongs to Arabs?

>>508892094 (OP)
Gtfo anchor baby scum, you stole that life from an American kid you thief. Let's not forget to send them a bill for all the money they stole.

>>508898660
I’ve just read through Wong. You are (unfortunately) wrong in your reading. The holding mentions little to nothing of lawful residency and on allegiance, follows old English common law in finding effectively that your mere birth in the country means you owe allegiance (following which view they conclude that children of aliens are indeed citizens).
More interesting to me as angles to challenge Wong would be:
Whether ‘domiciled’ implied some degree of lawful residency.
Whether the landscape of immigration laws at the time meant that the court didn’t properly consider illegals because the open immigration policies at the time meant that there were no ‘illegals’.
If there were sufficient immigration laws at the time for a class of ‘illegals’ to exist, would the courts have considered them domiciled?

>>508903170
It mentions Permanent Residency and Permanent Domicile multiple times... tell me, how did one gain "permanent residency" status in the 1890s?

>>508902822
27 years occupation vs 800 years...

>>508902104
migrate and migrant are not the same, idiot beaner

>>508896135
Guy who wrote it and explicitly stated it to congress who then passed it doesn’t reflect the intent of Congress
So ambassadors children have citizenship- oh wait they dont

>>508902822
Reconquista finished that in 1492 AD

>>508903278
It mentions “permanent residence” zero times in the holding.
It mentions “permanent domicile” 3 times, in each case as a callback to the fact as presented. It mentions the term zero times in the reasoning (which you’ll find from paragraph 4 to paragraph 117).
I’ve answered your question, now how about having a go at answering mine:
Whether ‘domiciled’ implied some degree of lawful residency at the time.
Whether the landscape of immigration laws at the time meant that the court didn’t properly consider illegals because the open immigration policies at the time meant that there were no ‘illegals’.
If there were sufficient immigration laws at the time for a class of ‘illegals’ to exist, would the courts have considered them domiciled?

>>508894586
no you cant retroactively apply laws nigga thats bullshit kek

>>508904388
There was no
>open borders policy
are you retarded? Immigration was strictly enforced up until 1929 when the system changed, prior to 1929 nearly ALL immigration services were conducted AT THE BORDER, that includes medical checkups, background checks, etc. all of that was conducted BEFORE you were allowed to cross the border.

And if you illegally violated the ports, train stations, etc. that served as gates into the United States then you were considered an illegal migrant and you could be hanged for that and they often were.

So that includes pretty much everyone who came in through the ports or the train stations or Ellis Island, etc. before 1929. Following 1929 that includes anyone with Permanent Resident Status (Green Card).

However only <20% of the immigrant population in the US qualifies under these two criteria, which really shows you how bad the situation is and how blatantly the US Constitution has been violated by the lower courts, especially in the last few decades.

>>508892397
Michigan will defeat the Buckeyes yet again!

>>508903640
You should migrate back to your kike shit posting central /ptg/ filthy migger.

The only reason why most of you are a citizens is being born here.

>>508901147
>>508901638
payme queero

>...
also
we have common at this country
thou is who thou says thou is
no id required

>>508905259
>common
*common law
>not a bot

>>508905169
You're an immense retard. My parents were also born here. And there parents all the way back to when the first our people LEGALLY immigrated here complete with paying the excise tax and filling out paper work.

>>508902352
you shit in the street and your skin is brown, jeet

>>508905313
>*common law
**common law names

>>508892094 (OP)
It's about goddamn time holy fuck.

>>508905250
You get paid in not starving to death since you're clearly retarded and incapable of paying someone else to do your bitch work for you. That's the goal. Get neetfags off their ass into the fields. No free rides.

>>508892094 (OP)
So what does this mean for actual americans? Can we be deported for muh antisemitisms?

>>508898539
Trump, in these last five months, has had more injections issued against him, than were issued against every president in the 20th century, combined.

This is a uniquely Trump-related issue.

>>508892397
>DIGITS AND STATES DELCARE WAR ON EACH OTHER..
Is it that time again?

>>508905457
pay me you fat jewish retard

>>508905685
Texas here. I would love an internal passport program. We need to get these trash yankees and commiefornians out.

>>508892094 (OP)
I am actually interested in how this plays out. Other countries don't give children citizenship for being in the country if the parents aren't citizens either. I see nothing wrong with that

>>508900635
>>508900476

That's not how the economy works.

>>508906262
really makes one wonder why it was ever the case in this country

>>508892397
Pathetic.

Now watch this.
It's called singles.

>>508905962
How about i don't pay you and instead you pick your own fucking food and pay me to set your diabetic foot on my land to pick your own food?

>>508905685
>homogeneity
This is the fundamental key to a high-trust society.

>>508892094 (OP)
What about the original illegal immigrants from europe? Let’s end their birthright citizenship.

>>508906310
Yeah I think it's just how it was interpreted in the past.

>>508906310
Probably because the didnt envision people being easily able to wander into the US by boat or plane on a daily basis. Makes since in yurop Africa and Asia because you can literally just walk across borders.

CHECK EM

>>508892094 (OP)
>After the fact millions of indians were imported

>>508906435
H1Bs dont get birthright citizenship either.

>>508906296
I don't even sell what I grow on the domestic market. I definitely know more about how "le economy" works than you do. Here is the deal: you come pick your own food, pay me, then you don't starve to death because I would salt the fucking ground before I gave my time away to lazy fags.

>>508906462
God I hope not

>>508906310
>>508906262

Lmao there is nothing to wonder. About 10% of those who signed the independence and the constitution (eg Hamilton, Morris) were not born citizens in the colonies.

The US has always been a country by and for migrants.

>>508892094 (OP)
I've been saying bring in thousands of pregnant Russians so their kids get citizenship, then Democrats might finally change their mind on birthright citizenship.

>>508892650
Nice. Accelerate

>>508906296
that's literally how it works
>>508906345
sounds like you want a new necktie

Trump was right about everything. Shills lose, again.

>>508906072
Every Texas license plate we get up here is either some retarded boomer in a King Ranch F250 that cant park or drive worth a fuck or a minivan full of browns with the back window obscured. Fuck off with your talk about "muh yankees" you wannabe confederates are the absolute most insufferable clowns in existence.
>well in Taygzus, we...
>we dont that in Taygzus
>how come here x but in Taygzus y?
Dont get me wrong, Calinigs and north easterners are fags in their own right, but you're a special type of hog fucking homo.

>>508906262
Amy Coney Barrett will stab us in the back. That's how it's going to turn out.

>>508906556
That already happens by the tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands each year. It's called Birth Tourism and Russia and China both do it. Basically they have a facility somewhere near a major city and hospital services and then fly in women on their 7th or early 8th month when its still OK to fly and then pop out a kid on US Soil

Look it up.

>>508906072
>Texas here. I would love an internal passport program. We need to get these trash yankees and commiefornians out.
Agreed. Start in Austin. We also need to clear La Raza out of San Antonio again.

>>508906682
>Seeing Texas plate
>Assuming they were native Texans moving into your shithole state
Listen up lil retard. Real Texans don't leave the state. So you enjoy the fake Texas Cali fag carpetbaggers. We're making it so they leave within a year of moving into Texas.

>>508892695
digits and you stfu

>>508904872
I’d highlight that I’ve not been rude despite your misreading of Wong.
Given what you’ve clarified there, i think a better argument against Wong (because Wong does not on its face limit itself to lawful residents) would perhaps be along the lines that the status of illegals at the time was such that:
They could not be classified as domiciled. That is to say, while Wong did not make any meaningful reference to lawful domicile in its reasoning, it impliedly excluded illegals because they could not be domiciled; they were treated explicitly as criminals and would be hung; or
Slightly differently, that while they may have been classed as domiciled (in the way that a criminal may still be domiciled in a state), the status of illegals at the time means that Wong simply did not address them as a class (and indeed, at no point is immigration status in as far as immigration law is concerned really touched upon), so Wong may be a precedent on domiciled legal residents, it has made no mention of illegals so shouldn’t be considered an authority there.
There’s probably something in their referencing back to historic English common law where many of the principles would have pre-dated formalised immigration laws, but I’m too tired to really look through all the references there now.
In short, I think arguing that Wong explicitly applies only to children of ‘lawful permanent residents’ is wrong (it’s too easy to dispute because Wong doesn’t, on its face, say that). Better to argue that Wong either impliedly excludes illegals or simply does not touch upon illegals at all; that ‘domiciled’ in the context of the case meant only lawful residents.
Are there any cases around the time (before or shortly after Wong) that explicitly or implicitly exclude illegals from ‘domiciled’ or similar concepts?

>>508906546
It looks like that's about to change with the way the Supreme Court is interpreting things

damn, based chat

>trump has actually been getting things we want done since day one
>he's still making based decisions
>illegals will literally be enemies of the state even if they shit out a child
>that child is now an enemy of the state
LETS FUCKING GOOOOO

>>508906762
Yup, it was big news back in 2017 because it happened in Florida and many were trying to connect it to Trump or DeStantis.

>>508894533
Why not?

>>508906682
That retarded boomer is probably going on a road trip since it takes a fucking day to get out of this state. The minivan full of browns are fleeing because people have gotten so hostile towards subhumans here. Yeah. Don’t believe me? Don’t care.
>>508906862
San Antonio truly needs a nuke. A middle aged man I know who is a big rifle owner, tree truck physique, former bodybuilder with a klan tat on his ankle got his nice truck stolen there a few months ago. He wasn’t even at his conference a full day and some spice jacked his truck; toolbox and all. He was a very man. The cops told him straight up “it’s in Mexico because cartels love F250s”. Austin pisses me off.
>>508907035
This 100%

t. Piney woods

>>508907116
The issue of illegal migrants as it pertains to Birthright Citizenship and specifically Clause 1 of the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution has NEVER been touched on, only Wong Kim Ark a 120+ year old case even remotely touches on it.

This is why SCOTUS desperately needs to rule on this issue as quickly as possible, it is an issue that has been pushed and ignored and not questioned for over a century because the US needed cheap labor but that time is coming to an end. There is now an abundance of labor and a need for a more specialized "working class" that focuses on maintaining the automation of our industries and some of those industries such as; pharmaceuticals, energy production, etc. are coming back to the US as it is desperately needed for National Security reasons.

>>508907511
*trunk
*spic
Damn autocorrect

>>508892094 (OP)
see ya, pajeets

>>508907035
>>508907511
>malding memeflags
Shalom, jewish cowboys.

>>508892094 (OP)
The sentence about the anchor babies will come in october, I think. should be bye-bye to anchor babies assured in 99% cases

this is another thing, and is both good and bad.

>>508907565
I agree with you. I think birthright citizenship is insanity and I hope that SCOTUS removes it. It may provide some impetus for us to review some of our own citizenship rules here and in Europe.
I’m just academically interested in what the arguments would be against it. I think you can sidestep Wong on the basis I describe above, and I’d argue similarly that ‘under the jurisdiction’ can not have meant illegals because of their status at the time and because the old common law that the reasoning is upon which the principle is based, should equally be read as having excluded illegals (whether implicitly or explicitly).

>>508907511
>t. Piney woods
You are right. I won't go anywhere near San Antonio right now for that very reason. I'm jealous. Spent a couple years in Tyler. Loved all the rain and trees.

>t. where the West begins

>>508906987
S'more like Sam bondi amirite?

>>508907715
>Shalom, jewish cowboys.
I'd tip my hat to you rabbi but you need to stop sucking little baby cocks first.

>>508906580
I'm offering you a discount on food if you spend some time picking it yourself. Good would be cheap if people didn't think their free time should be spent absorbing goyslop Netflix and applebees margs.

>>508908006
The jurisdiction clause, as originally understood, grants birthright citizenship only to children whose parents have full, exclusive allegiance to the United States. The Constitutional text in history shows that children of illegal aliens and illegal aliens who are in the United States temporarily are not citizens by birthright under
the 14th Amendment.

The drafters of the 14th Amendment understood not to grant citizenship to persons, quote, ‘‘owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty.’’ In the first cases decided after ratification, the Supreme Court held that ‘‘jurisdiction’’ in the 14th Amendment means not nearly subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States but completely-but completely-subject to their political jurisdiction and owing them direct and immediate allegiance.

Of course, illegal aliens and legal temporary United States residents do not owe complete, direct, and immediate allegiance to the United States. Therefore, their children are not citizens by birthright under the 14th Amendment.

>>508892094 (OP)

In future you have to buy your citizenship...that is american way.

>>508892094 (OP)
>this means that a child of an illegal could be born and granted Citizenship in Boston and then their family moves to Texas for "work" and that Child's Citizenship status will NOT be recognized under the state of Texas!
even if true it will simply not be enforced

>>508892397
Digits and nothing ever happens (But things get better)

>>508908899
witnessed!

>>508908899
checking!

>>508908899
>Thank you Jesus, very cool

>>508908899
Double doubles of optimism.

>>508892094 (OP)
Voted for this. Wi8nning bros we can't keep winning

>>508908723
I'm offering you a free rope necktie

United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898):
"Every person born in the United States…becomes at once a citizen."


---

Plyler v. Doe (1982):
"No plausible distinction…can be drawn."


---

INS v. Rios-Pineda (1985):
"There is no question that the child, born in the United States, is a citizen."


---

Hamdi v. Rumsfeld (2004):
"The Fourteenth Amendment draws a clear line: persons born in the United States…are citizens."


---

Sessions v. Morales-Santana (2017):
"The Fourteenth Amendment’s Citizenship Clause…declaring that all persons born…are citizens."

>>508908899
Oh fucking nice get
>but things get better

>>508909238
Good luck at congress lmao

>>508909088
She can stay

new thread here: >>508909169
>>508909169
>>508909169

>>508892397
easiest digits of my life

The birthright citizenship issue has only been punted down the road, so... nothing changed?

I don't get why you guys think something happened.

>>508910066
Meanwhile while its being punted POTUS and the states who are MAGA will all follow the EO ending Birthright Citizenship creating a fractured union and court system that SCOTUS will have no choice but to make a ruling on the 14th Amendment.

>>508892094 (OP)
states dont issue passports

Lawyer here. This is what will happen: due to conservative balance on the supreme court, birthright citizenship is basically dead in the next six months. This issue will be litigated in the supreme court and it's gone. That being said, there is a 0% chance that it becomes retroactive. That would cause 50+ mil citizens to lose citizenship overnight. The majority of those people are working age and this will literally cause the American economy to collapse. Schizo retards on 4chan can pray that it will be retroactive but it will never happen.

You're like 50 years too late

>>508910436
>the economy is predicated on 20 million college students and gang members
You hate to see it.

>>508893944
Nothing will happen, because Trump is a pussy that never enforces what he says.

>>508910561
You are retarded. You're talking about 100 million people of all races potentially being affected by this with a good chunk of them being working age. These people fill low end jobs as well as high end jobs. 1/4 of the working age population suddenly out of the workforce without the means to replace them would be devastating to the US. You are double digit IQ if you actually believe it will be retroactive.

They should shoot any person trying to enter the country illegally at the border

>>508911061
I don’t care about retroactive they just need to close the border, kick as many out as they can and not let them in going forward

>>508908899
>>508908977
WITNESSED

>>508911061
I don't care. How does that sound? Pick your own food. You sit here pulling your little micro-penis all day. Starve, fag.

>>508910500
It’s never too late for war and balkanization.

>>508911130
we need landmines and predator drones

deport nick fuentes

>>508911061
It would be cool if it was retroactive but that is a legal impossibility as it would be ex post facto to strip the anchor babies of their ill gotten citizenship

>>508892494
Correct, and I hope the court overturns birthright.