Thread 508902802

That you can die at any moment and it will be just like you never existed.
You won't take with you, your politics and your opinions.
Your consciousness will be completely annihilated and you'll rot away like the infinte creatures that ever lived in this universe.
Enjoy.

>>508902802 (OP)
Im converted to twitter profile christianity because of this post praise be rand paul and the rnc

>>508902802 (OP)
Good.

>>508902802 (OP)
reddit

>>508902802 (OP)
Sounds lovely, can't wait

>>508902802 (OP)
So you're an expert of post death existence? Where'd you study?

It’s amazing that humans are as durable as they are.

>>508902802 (OP)
Nah, I’m immortal

>>508902802 (OP)
>i showed you my knot answer me

>>508902802 (OP)
enjoy burning in metaphysical hell

>>508902802 (OP)
If fucking only, anon, if fucking only...

>>508902802 (OP)

If the universe is cyclical (and it may well be) and infinitely so, we will eventually recombine. Being dead (not existing) is something you can't experience, so in effect after death the next thing you know will be your next iteration. Of course there will be no memory of previous ones.

Everything that can happen due to cause and effect will happen. In effect we never 'die'.

I really want to die in my sleep tonight

>>508907048
That's not you, it's just another copy of you.

>>508905986
Our atoms continue existing but our consciousness does not. What a coper.

>>508907048
cope

>>508902802 (OP)
Oh no.

>>508902802 (OP)
My body may be destroyed, but I will live forever through my maymays.

>>508907143

Given the exact same (identical) atoms, why should the same consciousness not arise? I am referring to you experiencing life in first person.

>>508907149
And how do you know?

>>508907196

It isn't cope (or optimistic / pessimistic) because every negative life will happen and every positive life plus everything inbetween.

>>508907382
Your consciousness is linked to your physical body, there is no reason to believe it would exist in the aether or something other than wishful thinking and a blatant need to cope with death.
>>508907570
You think the atoms you are made off right now will eventually find themselves in the same arrangement they are now after a gorillion years... If that's not a cope Idk what is

You might. Our Lord will ensure those who follow him wont.

>>508907149
>And he calls Schopenheur the coper...

>>508907960
>Your consciousness is linked to your physical body, there is no reason to believe

Tell us more about his counsciensness anon... Have you seen it? Have you seen any consciousness? Have you measured it?
Tell us more...
Are you Joel Parreira, the famous doctor on Consciencology?

>>508907960

You don't seem to understand the nature of infinity. Like I said, it isn't optimistic or pessimistic as the results will be positive, negative and everything inbetween. I'm not personally bothered if life is a one-off, I'm stating what may happen if CCC is correct.

>>508908004
If you can't look Reality in the eye and face your death without making up some tmt copes, you are a weakling. He is on a lower level than me.

>>508902802 (OP)
Nobody knows what happens when we die so no. Nice try tho kike.

>>508902802 (OP)
Sounds like some weapons grade cope coming from a guy whos afraid the afterlife holds eternal fire for him.

I pray for martyrdom in the cause of Allah. I am content to die in order to save innocent lives and inspire my people.

>>508907960
>Your consciousness is linked to your physical body
How do you know?

>>508902802 (OP)
Daily reminder: jews rape kids

>>508902802 (OP)
Nah, you'll be taken to a noospheric realm where you'll be forced to wageslave or return here and spin the wheel.

Sorry.

>>508908122
There's no reason to presume infinity anyway. Think of the mental gymnastics you are making when you think it's possible for the same atoms that constitute your body to rearrange themselves in the exact same manner after a gorillion years. It's clearly a cope.

>>508908176
Lol
Lmao

The those who deny the obvious (you) are the lowest level, anon.
I feel you're too young and wouldn't understand anyway. So... grow up.

>>508902802 (OP)
you can't destroy the (you)

>>508908482
If I knock you in the head you lose consciousness. If I damage your brain you lose cognitive power. Cringe question.

>>508908584
>>508908584

But you do accept that it's a possibility? In the case that it's true, it's not only possible that they will eventually be in the same configuration, but it's a certainty.

I'm happy with my current iteration, no need for me to 'cope'.

>>508908595
>lol lmao grow up
great non-arguments
keep coping little guy

>>508908717
What a simpleton.

So consciousness arises from nothing and returns to nothing without the body?
What else does the same?

>>508902802 (OP)
It's actually the exact opposite. You're here forever.

>>508908766
My argument was actually that you're denying the obvious while claiming others are the ones who are ignoring reality.

But do you even know what an argument is? Again, grow up kiddo.

>>508908742
Everything is a "possibility" in theory, but in reality we have to make choices as to what is more likely.
Are pikachus in Andromeda a possibility? Theoretically sure, but it's more likely I just made it up so not really.
I don't see any compelling argument as to why infinity would be likely. What I think is infinitely more likely is that due to our need to cope with death we find refuge in these magical ideas. The whole concept of infinity is magical and not something we can really comprehend.

>>508908821

Well this boils down to an either materialist-only based explanation or an alternative that involves spirituality (non-physical) and we can only measure the physical. Non-physical explanations require religious beliefs (not provable).

>>508906662
how did you find out?

>>508902802 (OP)
>b-but muh children and legacy
Lul

>>508907105
I don't, I'm going out tomorrow night and I stayed sober tonight, I'd hate to check out straight

>>508908584
Nothing is permanent, but cycles can in fact spin infinitely as they morph into spirals, this is a recursive and nested dynamic observed everywhere in nature. I understand people rejecting metaphysics due to the amount of mythology injected into them by gullible retards, but i don't get why all these natural dynamics we observe in nature aren't applied to consciousness if they apply to literally everything.

There are many ways life could continue after death, either externally or internally.

>>508909050

The fact that we are conscious at all is a somewhat 'magical idea' - if you want to think about what is more or less likely you have to look at the physics. Maybe look at the work of Roger Penrose. I am still researching the matter but I won't rule out the possibility that the universe recycles in aeons and this is one of infinite aeons. It's an entirely serious idea.

>>508908821
What do you mean "from nothing"?
Consciousness is linked to our cognition. It's paradoxical for us to look inside and completely understand our will so you are demanding complete knowledge on matters that we are unable to figure out and you think that if I don't give you some godlike answer that you owned me or something. You are the simpleton.
The reality is that we know consciousness is related to our body and to our brain. If you drink too much you are considered in an "altered state of consciousness". If I shove a metal rod up your nose and scramble it around you will never be the same person again. You think consciousness is some magical platonic thing that exists out there independent of the body so you can't even begin to comprehend what I'm saying.
It's better for you if you don't. Your mind would break and you would spiral. Go back to schopenhauer.

>>508907960
Your post is linked to your physical computer, there is no reason to believe it would exist in aether or something (after you turn off your computer) other than wishful thinking and a blatant need to cope with stupidity.

>>508909208
>>508909215
Believe what makes you feel better. I suggest you don't let it get in the way of living this life and creating beauty if you can. If your beliefs are getting in the way of that, you are wrong.

How can I not exist when non-existence doesn't exist?

>>508910624

You could think of not being conscious as being asleep. Before we are born the potential of us exists but isn't realised unless / until conception, and after that point our brain develops and we become conscious of existing. If what I posted earlier is correct, this happens an infinite number of times. What you get is one iteration of yourself after another with each one being perceived as being the only (current) one.

>>508902802 (OP)
Beam me up scotty.

>>508910624
I mean after death by the same infinitesimal small chance that you were born you might be reborn maybe even in india even though that chances are there but not zero.

>>508902802 (OP)
Ye of little faith

>>508909768

I get the sense that you feel the idea is a negative one, as if the implication is you turn to nihilism, but that's not necessarily the case at all. How people live is up to them or deterministic factors. People generally try to make the most of their lives through what they feel that entails including me.

>>508902802 (OP)
I find this comforting. Thank you.

>>508902802 (OP)
what a fucking relief thank god

>>508902802 (OP)
I wish they’d kill me but they only torture me through gang stalking they are cowards my life is a living nightmare

>>508902802 (OP)
I have the belief that we are all just parts of the universe experiencing itself. I cant die until I do, and when I do - I will experience it all over again. I am this part of the universe, and you are yours - we are literal embodiment of experience, and we just happen to be THAT particular part of the consciousnesses. That's what I like to believe, anyway.

>>508902802 (OP)
>any moment
if you're like under 80 not really unless you're putting yourself in incredibly dangerous situations your treating your body like a toxic dump

>>508905658
faggot blue jean christian

>>508902802 (OP)
Why are you pretending I haven't been dead inside for decades?

>>508909697
a handful of characters coded in ascii are infinitely less complex and infinitely easier to copy exactly than a being, even a fly.

>>508902802 (OP)

good, I can't wait. i had my one shot at existence in the universe and fucking blew it, just get it over with already.

>>508902802 (OP)

Wrong.

Nderf.org

>>508915411
It's a logical fault. He's assuming the consciousness is generated by the body. There is no evidence for that. There is evidence that disruption of certain parts of the body disrupts the output of the consciousness.

>>508917478

Then where else could your consciousness come from?

>>508917677
supernatural magic woo woo occult invisible matter, that's where. jeez

>>508908584
The real question is if you actually WANT to be rearranged into your current self.

>>508918402
>supernatural magic woo woo occult invisible matter, that's where. jeez

>>508902802 (OP)
whatever you need to tell yourself to convince yourself you're not going to hell, anon

>>508917478
>assuming the consciousness is generated by the body
it is. one giant state machine.
This is why i also hate those who claim we never die because "we're part of the universe and the universe is part of us" blah blah... no. it's just a state machine, made up of stuff in a particular arrangement.

is there an afterlife? sure... if your brain matter can be recreated exactly as it is right now.

and the thing about the "mutiverse" faggots as well... "infinite universe means infinite probabilities" ... no. just because there are infinite universes, doesn't mean that includes one where a certain group of x^100 particles and charges arranges itself once, or more than once (i.e. whether it's been done before or hasn't). infinity doesn't mean every possibility happens. some easier combinations repeat.. endlessly.

and no, not everything is encoded in the endless decimals of a number like pi

>>508902802 (OP)
>That you can die at any moment and it will be just like you never existed.
I honestly find comfort in that, I don't mind life but death is probably going to be pretty nice.

>>508918888
Greta is kinda awesome in some weird way.

>>508909208

The material that is your physical body will start decomposing almost instantly upon death.

This biochemical process is, in fact, a transformation where bacteria, maggots, or even animals could physically eat you as food.

But so what? The atoms in your former "body" continue to exist in some form, either as energy for some animal or plant, or in a physical form for a veeeeeeeery long time. Your carbon atoms will probably continue to exist until the end of the universe.

Your "soul" or "consciousness"? No idea.

>>508902802 (OP)
>Daily reminder
>That you can die at any moment and it will be just like you never existed. You won't take with you, your politics and your opinions. Your consciousness will be completely annihilated and you'll rot away like the infinte creatures that ever lived in this universe. Enjoy.

>>508902802 (OP)
In this universe and all possible multiverses, you are and always will be a nigger. No universe exists where you are not a nigger.

funny how this topic brings out the last remaining hope in those of us who:

- genuinely visit this site for entertainment
- still haven't killed ourselves over having to be on this rock with niggers

because that's the only think really keeping them from realizing it's all just noise and nonsense.

>>508919022
>The material that is your physical body will start decomposing almost instantly upon death.

>This biochemical process is, in fact, a transformation where bacteria, maggots, or even animals could physically eat you as food.

>But so what? The atoms in your former "body" continue to exist in some form, either as energy for some animal or plant, or in a physical form for a veeeeeeeery long time. Your carbon atoms will probably continue to exist until the end of the universe.

>Your "soul" or "consciousness"? No idea.

>>508902802 (OP)
>this is what atheists actually believe
no wonder you guys are constantly killing yourselves and becoming junkies

Lmao kek even.
How have you been absorbing the idea that "life's a simulation bro"

>>508919214
>funny how this topic brings out the last remaining hope in those of us who:

>- genuinely visit this site for entertainment
>- still haven't killed ourselves over having to be on this rock with niggers

>because that's the only think really keeping them from realizing it's all just noise and nonsense.

>hope
and by hope, i mean those who have no response other than "go back" "kmarx" "__jack". it's sad hope that their little traditions matter. don't blame em, since they'll probably fall into despair if they don't put up a fight

>>508919388
don't worry buddy, nobody will miss you when you're gone. you can let it go if you want. your mom will understand

Italians are more brown then my shit

>>508906662
There can be only one!

>>508905986
He is very clearly talking about physical matter here, not some religious metaphysical mumbo-jumbo, which he detested.

>>508919447
>>hope
>and by hope, i mean those who have no response other than "go back" "kmarx" "__jack". it's sad hope that their little traditions matter. don't blame em, since they'll probably fall into despair if they don't put up a fight

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>>508919388
>don't worry buddy, nobody will miss you when you're gone. you can let it go if you want. your mom will understand

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>>508919388
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>>508919736
unironcally kill yourself

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>>508919798

oh i will. i already have it planned out. it's gonna be great. just now now

Niggers niggers niggers niggers niggers niggers.

What do you gotta say to that?

>>508919022
The soul is nothing more than the ego, that's how is represented in most esoteric mystical frameworks. The ego relies on the linearity of time in order to exist as a coherent structure and form what many people call "the self".

All of this is tied to time perception. Time perception can be altered, it is in fact altered in all reports from people that have suffered clinical deaths. So who's to say we don't keep on living "internally"? Just as one of the possibilities, i find not many people explore this route.

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>>508902802 (OP)
You'll never prove this to me.

>>508902802 (OP)
fuk u and yur doge, dog!

>>508903201
until that massive weight and tearing sensation punches you in the chest with a massive cardiac arrest

>>508902802 (OP)
Thank god, I just hope it's quick and peaceful.

OH in that case let me stop caring about anything and everything and just stare at a walk until I die.

Fuckin retarded take. Politics and opinions are all just ways to keep ourselves entertained until we die.

how can you be so sure? you can't. perhaps we return, to do this all over again. over and over.
for example, this morning as i was walking back home, i had the sudden thought that PLTR is probably at a peak. by the time i got back and checked the chart, markets had already closed and it was down 9%. why didn't i have this thought yesterday, or earlier in the week, to profit from the trade? very weird. my life is riddled with stupid little shit like that, always being a day late, or some weird coincidence.

it makes me feel like i've already lived this life before, and that it's a test. if i don't do it correctly this time, i'll be doomed to repeat it. and understanding how to pass the test is the only way to escape, to break the loop.

also another quote "hate is baggage".
it really is, since we cannot act on it without getting severely punished. so it's basically this open wound in the psyche until you either use it or let it go. the best way to use it is as a filter, you avoid what you hate, you use hate to filter out those types of ppl (jews, nigs, etc.)

>>508902802 (OP)
Nah, the universe is way too complex and holy/secretive for that to be the case. A part of me WISHES for eternal oblivion and nothingness, but I know it's not true. We are part of the core conciousness that has roots and branches everywhere. We will most likely just be reborn as another human. That is for the people that are NOT npcs.

cringe brute materialists that cannot even account for quantum entanglement properly in this thread LMAO

>>508923066
it's possible that we are reborn into a better life in the distant future, if we make the right moves in this life and are not evil. that would be the "reward". and all these rich kids, or nepobabies as they are called now, they are being rewarded for their good deeds in past lives, decades or centuries ago. that might be the case. when you are reborn obviously you don't carry memories with you, but sometimes you get that feeling that you do remember something. this is what those "past life regression" ppl believe. basically similar to buddhist beliefs.

if you really reach buddha mode then i guess you get to be reborn into the next level, which is even better? i don't know.

>>508902802 (OP)
1pbtid

>>508902802 (OP)
I hate these nu-philosophers

>>508902802 (OP)
retnv 2 doge

>>508923066
>We will most likely just be reborn as another human
After meticulously considering many possibilities, would you really think indians are right about anything?