Thread 508904620

>why are white people not having babies

But I never see pol ever discuss how exploitive medical system is that makes having a baby so expensive.

>>508904620 (OP)
>please pay now

what the fuck

>not just throwing medical bills in the garbage
ngmi

What happens if she doesn't pay? Will the hospital unbirth the baby?

>>508904620 (OP)
Just don't pay.
What are they gonna do?

>>508904928
When the bill says "please pay" that means payment is optional.

>quick search
>3k to 7k for midwife
Someone did something wrong.

>>508904928
50% chance the Hospital just eats the loss
25% chance the Hospital comes back with a figure 1/10th what they were originally asking for
25% they send it to a collections agency and a few years down the line you get some annoying calls until they give up

thats medical debt dude u would pay like 10$ a month for decades

the reason whites cant have babies is because women dont want them you can ask women plainly they dont like the idea of having any kids at all liberals who prefer abortion

its quite simple its a culture that women have created is why the birthrate is so low they dont focus or prioritize marriage and families they want careers

>>508904979
Repossess the baby. Or put it back where they found it.

>>508904620 (OP)
this is why Strasser was right btw, if only he hadn't been a disloyal faggot

This cunt conveniently left out critical details when she made her "Oh woe is me" post
In short, she basically had to have major surgery to get the kid out, and thousands more in NICU care for the kid
Fuck her and her kid

>>508904620 (OP)
Gonna use your thread to point out how fucking ridiculous it is how many times ive seen some poor soul post one of these jewish hyper-inflated medical bills on this board only for it to be met with droves of slack jawed american golems saying
>DURR YOU NO HAVE INSURANCE THATS WHAT YOU GET ARE YOU STUPID?
As if its somehow acceptable for jewish nationwide medical price gouging to exist just because theres a way(ideally) to circumvent it(as long as you have the money for it- fuck everyone else that might not). What is in the air/water in this country? Why do my countrymen fight so hard to excuse and even defend kiked shit like this? Its unreal.

>>508904620 (OP)
Don't pay them.
What are they going to do? Take away your ?

>>508905121
It's weird that a country as innovative as America hasn't been able to fix this issue for decades. You already have socialist healthcare because hospitals aren't allowed to turn people away, but you don't benefit from the streamlining and efficiency of universal healthcare because the private system in place is such a fucking mess.

Give em the AAH GEEZ...

>>508905569
u cant fix it its women and jews in the hospital system theyre rigging it on purpose against humans to give you a bunch of drugs you didnt want and increasing your bill 10 fold
without telling you what it is

the people would have to be slaughtered theres even black women in the hospital system

theyre criminal career criminals

its like asking for the country to be white europe is the same reason the medical system is corrupt

>>508904620 (OP)
Youre still not getting money for daycare bitch raise your own children bitch

>>508904620 (OP)
Pay it up, goy! Tyrone and shabeefa’s 50 children ain’t gonna pay themselves! Praise Israel!

>>508905390
Plus if you dont pay it theyll punish you by ruining your credit score or garnishing wages. Theyd rather send billions to Israel than help out fellow Americans cause its communism to reinvest into your community.

>optional epidural
>optional c section
>optional genital mutilation
>optional 9000 vaccines
>chose to stay in the hospital for a week for no reason
I wonder why she didn't post the entire bill

>>508905968
Here
>>508905339
I hadn't read this when I posted kek

over 9000 indeed

>>508904620 (OP)
she's paying for 10 illegals to have their babies free of charge

>>508905968
>I wonder why she didn't post the entire bill
She did, eventually
Anesthesia (high price because malpractice insurance), surgery/recovery, and NICU were the big ticket items

>>508904620 (OP)
What are "self-admin drugs"?

>>508904620 (OP)
its ok we just need to cut taxes for the rich again

>>508906377
the roastie nurse comes in and says we think you really need some blood circulation and some pain medicine and some blood thinners and something to help you sleep and they bring a box of like 10 pills give u brain damage by the time u leave the hospital

they do it to everyone

and make millions and dont let u leave they force u to stay for a week theyll plug ur veins into the machine and if u try to leave theyll forcibly hold you there u have to rip IV out and run out as fast as possible

then theyll take you psych ward for trying to escape the hospital in usa because you were sick

then they can keep you there forever

>>508906377
so you are considered paranoid because the doctors wanted to keep you there for weeks and run your insurance and your bills as high as they could because you were asking questions

so now they can keep you in the psychiatric care and max out your insurance for weeks

dont ever go to the hospital you are high likely chance to be murdered in usa

through these backdoors they have
malpractice etc

>>508904928
>Will the hospital unbirth the baby?
Cute. These days they'd probably sell it for parts and pay you the difference.
Fuck. I just made myself really sad.

>>508904620 (OP)
Free here in Latvia, which is a 99.9% white ethnostate in both NATO and the European Union. You can pay 50€ for an upgraded post birth room if you want. Actually all health care is free for children from conception to age 26.

After the kid is born the local government gives you like 500€ as a gift and to say congratulations.

We don't have stealth bombers tho.

>>508904620 (OP)
americans are african

>>508904620 (OP)
This is why there's always been such a strong campaign to demonize rednecks. Rednecks are just whites that don't play by the rules while knowing where the line is so they don't become white trash nogs. It is the ungovernable but cordial white man. Redneck Maxx anon, stop playing their gay games

>>508907205
doctors are getting paid nothing everywhere else?

>>508904620 (OP)
Universal healthcare is a pro white system. People here pretend that socialism is bad for the white race but in reality it’s capitalism that stole the standard of living required to raise a child. They’ll never admit it though.

>>508904620 (OP)
>what is having insurance
Why would you have a child before having insurance. Stop acting like a nigger

>>508904808
>alright goy, since you didnt pay your bills, your credit is shot.
>Since your credit is shot, you cannot pass the background check to rent this apartment or buy this home.
>since you cannot legally maintain a steady place of residence, we're taking your baby, goy!
>"BRUH WHY DIDNT SHE JUST PAY THE BILL?

>>508907468
cuz u wouldnt ever have a child if u had to be upper middle class to have a baby

u think our parents 100 years ago or 500 years ago

needed health insurance to have babies?

no they didnt

ur gonna allow the system to block you from having kids is exactly how they want it to be

they believe in saving the earth by making birth rates low by brainwashing women to not have kids

>>508904620 (OP)
Why is it free for black people to have babies?

>>508904620 (OP)
They're not having babies because white babies are going to pay off the debt

>>508907627
cuz theres a poverty level if u work at kfc part time u are under the 12,000 per year threshold of paying taxes

white women are luxurious beings on earth they have elevated themselves above the desire to have children anymore

why have a baby if u enjoy single life being paid by men even without having kids

its more work for them they will never do it from their view children are a burden

theyre not christians

if white women were humble and below the 12,000 tax then they also would see it feasible to just be a family women mother

>>508907308
I'm sure your semantic cope will be a great help to americans dying at the doors of a hospital, or getting indebted for life over stuff like giving birth or getting hit by a car

>>508904620 (OP)
sure you can. pay them 10 dollars a month and they leave you alone (somewhat). or you can just laugh it off, but it's good to pay denbts.
the system is fucked for sure; did a 20 page paper on this in college. admin costs are through the roof.

notice the dates of the biggest jump? check this shit:
>https://www.kff.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/5-02-13-history-of-health-reform.pdf

look at how Medicare/medicaid totally fucked the system with all the addendums added in the 80's and 90s especially. there's more to it than that but the paper brings it all up, so feel free to check. you aren't paying for health care. you are paying for shaniqua to sit on her fat ass and push paper. even doctors and nurses barely get to see patients anymore because they are inundated with a litany of things to review, sign, and CYA.

>>508904620 (OP)
What?!? 9000?!? There's no way that can be right!! Can it?!?

>>508908578
yes, that's actually quite low probably because it was billed as OoP

>>508907567
>alright goy, since you didnt pay your bills, your credit is shot.
wrong
https://www.consumerfinance.gov/about-us/newsroom/cfpb-finalizes-rule-to-remove-medical-bills-from-credit-reports/

>>508908630
>anon can't recognize scouter meme
it's so fucking over for this site

>>508907468
just have kids for fucks sakes
stop waiting past your golden years and end up with great insurance that all goes to paying for some genetic ooze called a child because you waited until 45
>>508909069
it's just so old I wasn't expecting it out of the blue. haven't heard it in years.

>>508907308
No, the state pays them. There is also private healthcare if you want to skip any queues or get a private second opinion or want to harass them for a specific drug.

>>508909069
Ugh. Not everyone is a nerdy virgin like you who obsesses over obscure anime.

>>508904620 (OP)
Jews convinced Women they can't even give birth anymore without a trillion dollar medical industry....

Put your knees up and push you whore.

Repeal 19th.

>>508907132
You haven't been destroyed by Jews yet...just wait.

>>508907567
>buying things on credit
This is why Jews own you. You want what you can't afford and are willing to be indebted to get it. Sad.

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>>508907803
Whats with the kshart spam? I thought you shitters were contained (poorly) in /mu/?

>>508909348
do you not know that you need a credit check before they'll rent you an apartment or allow you to apply for a home loan?

>>508907426
universal healthcare literally codifies all of the worst practices ruining the system right now, and last time I checked, whites have insurance more than shitskins.
we need LESS paperwork, not more. LESS government fucking the payment system and LESS insurance/pharma getting away with highway robbery due to government fuckarounds.

also, and I'm dead serious, a Fat Tax. BMI over 30 slowly gets higher taxes put into Medicaid in an appreciating tier system.

Sadly I’ve known too many people that just get a divorce and live together as roommates so their “combined income/insurance” doesn’t affect their subsides….but then I think if you get married again the IRS can figure it out and get you.

This is one of those WTF things you can’t believe exists in the USA until you hear about it, look it up, and then find out that’s a huuuge problem no one ever talks about.

We are hardly the best country in the world. Not the worst, but certainly not the best. Unless you’re rich or extremely poor.

>>508909197
DBZ was watched by all the middle aged dads I know. The majority of my generation did not watch another anime but we did watch dbz.

>>508904808
This. If you have a baby, you should have no shame in not paying back any of those medical bills, not a single penny.

>>508909447
>We need LESS government!

>More taxes!

>>508904620 (OP)
That's just America. Having a baby in Australia cost $0. One of them needed a c-section, which cost, $0. And still white people don't have kids here. Our home prices are wayyyy higher than the USA though.

>>508909468
the invisible hand goes around any walls the government can put up, the problem is that the solution is worse than the supposed problem every time, but it takes years to suss it out while being lauded as a progressive and monumental win for humanity.
>>508909601
less regulation more sham tax, don't like it? so what. make an argument then. taxes aren't fucking ruining healthcare; regulations are and that's why I posted 1. that graph, and 2. that paper. Please try to rub the last two brain cells you have left and check it out for yourself.

I see no qualms with bullying the masses for ruining society, economy, and security.

>>508905081

That's still too much. Ffs other than guns and Trump America is fucked.

>can't afford baby
just take it back??

>>508907205
We subsidize almost everyone else's Healthcare.

>>508909011
drumpft literally deleted the CFPB via executive order thougbeit

>>508907567
>giving any hospital your actual name
lol
lmao even

>>508904620 (OP)
>please
0 obligations to a request

>>508909761
they have to pay for insurance against malpractice and are licensed as well. licensing restrictions have become more like guilds with glass walls for the peasants, blocking out talent for people whose families can buy their way in or by political fiat (see foreign exchange with turd world).

it's a multifaceted issue indeed, which is why liberals going "just make it free hurr durr" is so apropos. they have the same political ideology of a 2 year old.

>>508909900
he did a review of the agency and cut most of it, seeing as they didn't do shit. they can run (and are still running btw) on a much leaner budget. as for that particular rule, as far as I know it hasn't been touched. the impetus here was a concern over make-work positions that bloated the agency, costing time and money, and making the executive an non-functional sub-par entity.
it's not an unusual move in business.

>>508907205
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>>508909190
The USA runs on a totally different model and everyone wants to deny that for some reason. In the USA everything exists to turn a profit, as high as possible, and that means
>creating barriers to competition which enforces quasi-monopolies (your competitors are doing the exact same thing you are)
>making your services mandatory - insurance anyone?
>creating proxy organizations to inflate costs - insurance anyone?
Europe kind of does the same thing but instead of insurance you pay taxes. In the USA you theoretically have a choice to not pay health insurance so if you're rich and in good health you can definitely afford to gamble by never paying into health insurance.
tl;dr rich win more in the USA, poor get shafted more in the USA. USA! USA! USA!

>>508907205
what a childish way of thinking of things.
>get cake free
>wait two months in line in gulag
>cake is brick
>throw brick at guard
>brick goes to dust
>guard laugh
>"didn't you know? brick is Russian"

why don't women just have babies at home like they have been doing for a million years?

>>508910249
ALSO niggers think voting lefty will fix it but Obamacare was American lefty healthcare in practice. You know what happened? MANDATORY INSURANCE. And insurance costs went WAY up. That was intentional by the way, they're not stupid. It's because the insurance companies wrote that legislation.
The companies are writing laws to protect themselves here. The companies are being represented, not citizens. But the citizens are being taxed, not the companies. This kind of tyranny, this taxation without representation, is too abstract for the current generation of simpletons to grasp (it's not a king somewhere overseas).
Europe has a solved system of socialism that works but it would be impossible to impose in the USA.

>>508910437
the jews

>>508909581
No it’ll ruin your credit, and the bank can garnish your paycheck or/and put a lien on your property. We’re running on a system that was designed for dad to have a job and mom to stay at home, and then dad could easily pay off the hospital bills and qualify for subsidies. But with TWO incomes, the annual threshold (which is like 8.something% of your premiums) can go waaay over that, and then you won’t qualify for subsidies. The idea is: “well Mr and Mrs richie rich, why don’t you just use some of YOUR money and maybe not buy another yacht” but just because two people make a lot of money doesn’t mean they’re not living paycheck to paycheck. There’s a lot of variables that can factor into this, but I’ve known people that make $400k a year (together) who have to buy an old house which is cheaper at first, but then come the repair$, the fucking roof AND the plumbing take a shit, and there’s arguments which lead to makeup sex, 9 months later you have a $20,000 hospital bill ON TOP OF everything else.

It can get really bad. I knew a guy that did loan sharking, and he told me that he knew a few couples where the husband would take his wife to go dance at a strip club while he worked a second job working security at night. She was a teacher and he was some kind of engineer. These were NORMAL people.

That guy ended up killing himself btw. Shot himself in the park on a Sunday in front a whole bunch of people. And she ended up getting into drugs and lost the kids.

This shit is happening. And people ask me why I sell drugs….bitch please.

>>508905569
Its called jews

>>508910640
Also the American left isn't socialist, it's Mafia. The Clintons (including Bushes and Obama) are Jewish puppets but "Jew" is somewhat misleading, it's Mafia. It all comes from the cultural Jewish institution of having your own secret internal court system.

>>508910437
In case something goes wrong.

>>508904620 (OP)
I never understood why /pol/ is so pro Jew healthcare. You don't have to like stuff like the NHS, but holy shit, American healthcare is some of the most kike'd shit I've ever seen.

>>508910929
Sometimes you gotta roll the dice in the game of life.

>>508904620 (OP)
lol imagine paying a hospital bill. just do what the fucking illegals do, use the ER, whatever, then laugh off the debt collection attempts since it does nothing to your credit anyways

>>508904620 (OP)
poor religious people have the most kids and are the happiest for it

>>508904620 (OP)
I watched a child birth once on YouTube out of curiosity and it looks easy enough to perform at home. It's pretty gross tho

>>508904620 (OP)
>But I never see pol ever discuss how exploitive medical system is that makes having a baby so expensive.
The system is propped up by what's left of the honest tax paying European American while our tax money pays for kikes in Israel with free health care

Simply hand me supreme dictatorial power and I will resolve all problems

>>508909724
>make an argument!

Pic related bro. Oh and when I said I sell drugs, they’re not the ones you’re thinking. I have medi-cal and a funny doctor. You’d be surprised how much money you can make getting free medical supplies/medicines and selling them for responsible and reasonable prices to people in such situations like the one being discussed. There’s actually whole organized crime syndicates that function as for profit charities.

>>508911323
I'm aware. Good for gaming the system. All life is a game, best way to win is to soft-break the rules. That said, I hope you can appreciate why this is retarded as a system for a country, right?

>>508910640
>>508910807
I feel like I would like you two very much if we ever met in person. Well said bros!

>plunging birth rates
>the country still refuses to pay all birth related medical bills
Yeah guys I dunno, I think the elite is incompetent

>>508911697
It's just Brave New World except instead of breeding retards you import them.
>oh yeah we need white people with college degrees to make $35/hr flipping burgers on their realistic living wages lmao

just pay them one penny per month

>>508904620 (OP)
>>why are white people not having babies
Sucks to be you, kike

>>508904620 (OP)
AHAHAHAA

I'M JUST NOT GONNA PAY

OH WELL

>>508904620 (OP)
>ah jeez dood 9000 dollahs??
>I got laid off last week and I gotta pay the otha doctah for my back
>I could pay like maybe fifty dollahs today but that's only cuz I got da money from the pills
Tell them a FUCKING story

>>508906315
Chances are she's a retarded Marxist, with an axe to grind, and doesn't realize that this is exactly what she asked for by electing democrats and passing Obamacare.
A "high deductable" plan will have a maximum out-of-pocket of around $9,500 a year. So if anything bad happens - i.e. baby needs to spend a couple of weeks in the NICU - you're going to hit that limit.
She can take some solace in knowing that illegal Mexicans trannys without a peso to their name, can cross the border in CaliMexico and get their junk removed at taxpayer (and her) expense.
Also, you're talking $750/mo for a year to pay this off - pretty sure whatever she's paying to post this shit online would knock down 10% of that right off the bat.
Otherwise she can move to Europe and get paid 50% less, be a faggot, and pay a 20% VAT on everything and keep up the bitching from there.

>>508907567
This right here. And they wanted a universal background check for credit as well

jewish blood rituals aren't free, you know

>>508912820
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>>508904808
>>not just throwing medical bills in the garbage
shred them and mic them with food waste. If the debt is high enough debt collectors can legally git it back from you but they need proof you seen them and are ignoring them

Kek american "healthcare" bernie could've prevented this, but you retards fell for the miga shills on this board 2 times now. You get what you deserver.

Healthcare should be free for white people and we should be subsidizing the fertility and births. You should also get a forgivable loan for a home and women should get medals for having children.

>>508916937
Far too sensible.

>>508904928
lol^

>>508906377
opioid drip

>>508904620 (OP)
just have the baby daddy pay it

>>508912983
>maximum out-of-pocket of around $9,500 a year
That's for single, it is $18,400 for families.

>>508905569
>efficiency of universal healthcare
lol but you'd be surprised how many people pay their medical bills it's crazy

>>508904620 (OP)
Be black
In a jewish nation it's free

>>508905339
>the hospital had to go to mutiple emergancy measures to deliver my baby and save my life
>they are taking advantage of me by asking to be paid for this

>>508907132
>free

>>508905339
They really saved two lives and she's out there being jewish about some grands

>>508904620 (OP)
Because they aren't niggers idk

>>508904620 (OP)
Imagine being so dysgenic that you have to go to a hospital for a natural process that has been occurring for millions of years.