Mutts, is this true?

>>508911156 (OP)
Yeah sounds about right.

>>508911156 (OP)
According to Israel Defence Minister: the minimun wage in D.C Washington is 80000 dollars yearly.

>>508911156 (OP)
Not for me, but I own my small house and both vehicles.
We basically survive very comfortably on less than $20K a year because there's zero loans or debt in my household.

>>508911156 (OP)
Cities are more expensive

>>508911156 (OP)
It just keeps getting worse and worse

>>508911156 (OP)

>>508911156 (OP)
Its true that $30 mcdonalds workers destroyed my city and that subsidized housing caused the housing crisis, its true that youre not getting any money for daycare either peace retard

>>508911156 (OP)
I'd call that a minimum needed to be comfortable and put something away for the future. I'd say 100k minimum, really.
If the national average is $93,933, I'm a nigger.
Why do two working adults make more than two single adults?
Did they remove every single retail and foodservice job to arrive at this average?

>>508911661
Your healthcare is a lobotomy and telling people to kill themselves if they dont let them force your healthcare on them. Unironic rope you retarded faggot.

Well Florida is an expensive shithole so it's not really fair

Eurocunt twats go be retarded thirstbox back in Europe useless fucking cunt

>>508911809
I live in Florida. >>508911518

>>508911156 (OP)
In california where im from yes. Rural or midwest? I can see them being fine at 50-70k, its so cheap because no one wants to live there

>>508911156 (OP)
No. America doesn't have real news just some corporate assholes opinions pretending to be news. But what they put on this $ is crazy wrong. I dunno why you ask on here, most of these little boys are too financially illiterate to even own a home, despite them being even cheaper now than in the 1990s.

>>508911156 (OP)
Depends entirely on how much youve bought into the myth of capitalism, and the opportunities you have. I own my car and my house, and both of those purchases were dumb fucking luck.

In a major city, yes.
The issue is that we thought that creating an effete state would maximize our freedom by preventing the centralization of power. What it's actually done is created a power vacuum in which foreign concentrations of power can utilize their money to inflict changes on us that are largely to our detriment, outsourcing manufacturing to produce low quality goods, which come back here and are marked up considerably for what they are. You have no idea how many Mexican-made couches I've unwrapped just to find finishing errors, missing hardware, shit that's stapled in sloppily and haphazardly. I can't even be mad at the Mexicans who did it. They're getting paid like 25 cents an hour and living in a cardboard box.

It's hard to come back from this until things degrade to the point of unrest. Liberals have been crying for years about MUH FASCISTS, but because they wouldn't even entertain the idea that they're not right either, that they're part of the oligarchy they preach about, that might actually be a possibility in the ensuing chaos. If America ends up crumbling because it's just too fucking open, and all of these foreign and corporate CUNTS keep hollowing us out, the only state that'll survive is a fascist one.

I'd need at least 200 bands annually to feel safe.

>>508911156 (OP)
Not really? It comes down to the definition of comfortably I suppose. The biggest singular issue is housing prices being obscene which grossly inflates any number. Unfortunately nobody is doing anything to alleviate housing problems and now sky-high housing price is just an assumed part of life here.

>>508911156 (OP)
93k national average??????? lol... lmao even. 50 percent of the work force makes minimum wage. The fuck is this data?

>>508912920
>It comes down to the definition of comfortably
Bills paid, can afford a $50k emergency, etc.

>>508911156 (OP)
And they wonder why no one is getting married or having kids.
WE CAN'T FUCKING AFFORD FAMILIES UNLESS WE'RE FUCKING RICH!

lol, really depends on where they live. Im in Dallas and $95K combined is comfortable enough and were expecting. $95K in the Northeast or California would be poverty for three

you need to be jewish, or a jewish golem to live comfortably in America.

>>508911156 (OP)
For that specific (large) city perhaps. Not where I live that's for sure.

>>508911156 (OP)
Depends on your definition of comfortable of course, but yes this is pretty accurate.

>>508911156 (OP)

Bradenton checking in.

Yeah looks about right.

Every fucking place wants like $7 for a beer nowadays. Compare this to Portugal where it's 1 euro.

>>508911156 (OP)
IDK. My house is paid for all five of my cars are paid for and all my bills are on auto pay, because I'm not a fucking retard and I saved up for 30 years.

>>508912975
I mean in that case I don't think 93k can afford a 50k emergency. Unless they are living well below said means.

>>508911212
fpbp
>>508911156 (OP)
I need $120k pre-tax salary to own a $250,000, 70 year-old hovel.
Good news is I'm only about 10 years away from achieving that :/
However, in 10 years that $250,000 shack will be 80 and probably valued at $400,000 due to demand.

Honestly about to just save up all my money and move to Japan. I can at least buy a newly built home there.

>>508911768
The ultra rich are so rich that they inflate the average by a lot. That 93k number is bullshit though.

>>508911661
>overpaid government redditors getting fired and crying

He never got as powerful as he wanted to be. It was always a larp and you guys still cry. Extraordinary.

>>508913409
Ok, boomer

>>508911156 (OP)
Unfortunately, sounds about right. We have a household income of $350k and I don’t feel wealthy. Just enough to buy a house in a white coastal town, save for retirement, and take a vacation a year. My neighbor is a landscaper and the other is a retired mailman. They bought here decades ago though. My friends that make less than $200k household live in the woods bht they’re comfortable too.

Obviously it would depend where you live in the US.

However given the utter hate the media have for trump this is probably their attempt to blame his for all the US economic problems.
Typical leftwing concern trolling "why doesn't trump do anythinnng.. omg becky I know its terrible". Meanwhile all the "journalists" are either unpaid or on $250,000 USD a year + and it doesn't really affect them.

>>508913773
>That 93k number is bullshit though.
Utter fucking nonsense; it's the one and only thing people should be pointing out here. How many people said it's accurate? Are they living on a different fucking planet? Even if they're making that personally, what do they think the people who perform all the services they use make?

>>508913868
That's Mr Boomer millionaire to you son. I did it all working in a factory in bum fuck nowhere.

>>508911156 (OP)

I made 75k last year and I feel poor. I need a new job. And my city is considered very livable and reasonably priced. Double, if not triple, those numbers for cities like New York, Miami, LA, San Francisco, etc. Inflation is a bitch.

>>508913785
>overpaid
idk maybe in parts of DC, but the rest of the fed workforce is pretty middling. You can look up the GS scale, it's public info. Most workers are in the GS5-GS7 range and it's not that impressive. Assuming you're not in a hyper libshit city, you're shitting on Americans making 50k a year probably pulling the weight of 1-2 other people (who didn't get fired in this doge shit). Also you're now paying increased maintenance for them to go to work in decrepit 80 year old buildings that require insane amounts of heating/AC and electricity from sail foam charging. Grats.

bullshit. the average salary is probably 29,000

>>508911156 (OP)
Jews destroyed the country and now they're all going to jump ship while we eat each other. The only way out of this is to literally have a revolution and get back into a system with gold backed currency.

>>508914213
Even the MIT living wage calculator significantly highballs what constitutes a "living wage". I make well below what it calls a living wage, and still live alone comfortably with a negligible level of assistance. For instance, it expects my monthly food budget to be somewhere around $300, when I rarely go over $200/mo for food.

>>508911156 (OP)
Depends on the state and what you mean by "live comfortably". I make more than that and yeah sure I can afford rent but I will never be able to afford a house.

>>508911156 (OP)
depends on where you live

>>508914873
It's not the living wage part that I disagree with. I'd even say $100,000 should be the minimum. I'm floored that only me and like one other guy here have pointed out that the average American income isn't $93,000. It's probably closer to $30,000.

>>508914213
The kindest interpretation is that these people live in cities where $93k is poverty-tier. The more likely answer is that they're all so rich that they don't know, and the regular employees who might point it out won't because they're either yes-men or so focused on instilling thoughts onto the goyim that they don't care for the veracity of what they're saying.

>>508915299
Man, I've seen a lot of people defending the low pay so far. Do you even realize what the 1% takes home? Do you know how they get it? If you say "earn it" you're delusional. They steal it from the workers and customers.

>>508911156 (OP)
if you are a retarded faggot living in a commie city. anywhere else and you could live like a king with that kind of money

Or they can just stop fucking with the money supply and leave things alone.

>>508913785
It was never about saving the government money. It was never about cutting the fed workforce. It was about three things. Listen carefully.
>Gut and destroy agencies actively investigating him
>Give himself fat gov contracts
>Download the PII on every citizen and all the data out of the Treasury to feed Grok and sell to Palantir
That's it. He accomplished 2 of his missions and will likely eventually get the contracts he wanted.

>>508915299
The $93K is the national average salary required to live comfortably which makes sense when the average home sales price is $500K and the average new car sales price is $50K.

>>508915428
I agree things are fucked but I also have enough self awareness to recognize that I live a comfortable life in terms of historical/global standards on just $35k, and I live in a coastal city in the PNW.

One of the issues that retards economic progress in the US is that upper middle class activist journalists don't realize they're living above what the global peak would be if wealth were truly redistributed or the economy were to be completely recalibrated for human satisfaction.

>>508914343
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV8llEDsQts&list=RDQV8llEDsQts&start_radio=1&ab_channel=ElectricSix-Topic
this song is dedicated to you factory anon

>>508911156 (OP)
It literally depends on your definition.

>>508911156 (OP)
Yeah I didn’t feel like I had to watch every penny once I started making over 100k
I’m not rich by any means but I can go out to dinner when I want, pay all the bills without looking, afford the occasional big expense while still “stashing nuts” in the market

>>508911156 (OP)
No, that's not right. It's so much less, but we can't have that either.

>>508912931
Those numbers are all the same metric. Income to live comfortably (local to channel). National average income to live comfortably. Income to live comfortably with kids.

>>508917630
>if wealth were truly redistributed
I think liquidating everything and then deleting the liquid assets of the 1% would auto regulate. Removing the excess in the fiat cash pool would make all of it worth more.

I don't really care if the world would suffer until it got used to mommy and daddy billionaires not being there; they need to die and go away forever. When they hit a certain level, they need to be removed from society. They can live on a resort island in abject comfort if need be; they don't really have to die. They just can't participate in destroying the economy any more.

>>508911156 (OP)
how much of that is housing and insurance?

>>508911156 (OP)
>Mutts, is this true?

I'm living comfortably off $70,000; but I've got government healthcare and my home is paid off so I have no rent.

>>508911156 (OP)
Ah yes, that must explain how juan can support his 10 crotch spawns, hes being payed a 6 figure salary cutting grass all day

>>508919852
3 years working at 60-70k was enough for me to not only be comfortable but also put away enough to survive unemployed for 3 more years with no change to my lifestyle. I did have to get shitty job at that point and penny pinch a bit for a couple months, but I'm back to like 40-50k after 2 years and living exactly the same again. I even have enough saved up i could probably survive unemployed for half a year. Would be longer, but my roommate moved out and doubled my rent and utilities. At 100k+ I would be more focused on trying to generate passive income and retire early. I guess I live in a pretty cheap area, though.

>>508920429
>I guess I live in a pretty cheap area, though.
You'd have to. I lived on 60-70k in Chicago, and I was a fucking pauper.

>>508911156 (OP)
no. I make just north of 100k, and the average is closer to 25K if you disregard the top 5% who are grossly skewing the mean.

100k is enough to not be in poverty, but not enough to be comfortable.

That’s Florida which is stuffed to the brim with illegals, Jews, and retirees. Get rid of illegals to raise wages and drop rent prices and all of the sudden shit gets a lot easier. School and medical care get a lot cheaper. Jobs magically open up as the boomers don’t get their 15% “cash only” discount every time their insurance company cuts them a check for a new roof. Houses go back on the market because maintenance costs go up and boomers won’t do labor themselves. Depopulate it by 5% even and watch shit get affordable.
>But we can’t have depopulation! The banks won’t finance in a sinking housing market!
And when the boomers are underwater on their second homes and can’t maintain them they have to sell and owner finance. Nobody weeps for your double layered Jewish usury.
>But then the tax base decreases and everything goes to shit!
Things are already shit. Would you rather have a house or a road with a few less potholes?
>Reeeeeeeeeee!
Has anyone noticed that boomers and illegals always stick to the sun belt? It’s almost like the elderly who own 70% of the nations wealth and told Gen X and Millennials they were losers for being forced to live with them through college are entirely dependent on cheap labor to subsidize their already subsidized lifestyles. Hmmm. Interesting how that works. It would be tragic if they had to ask their children if they could move in and be taken care of as they age. They would never do that though. Dad’s a stubborn and proud old fart you know. Very “by the bootstraps” and all that.

>>508911156 (OP)
No
>>be me
>> 139k/y wfh
>>2 adult children in college, 1 out of state.
>>3 yo entering private preschool soon
>>wife works part time1-2 days a week as nurse
>>own home and 2 cars

>>508911156 (OP)
>National average salary in the US is $93,933

Who comes up with these lies? The national average in the US is around $40,000 to at maximum $50,000 and that's being very generous. If you go on a jobs website how many even pay close to $25 an hour which is around $50,000 yearly salary, very few jobs do.

>>508913673
>I can at least buy a newly built home there.
Every house in Japan is newly built because they're not built to last. They literally have a shelf life of like 20 years.

>>508911156 (OP)
Depends on how you define comfortably. I'm slightly above $100k in the midwest and I would say I'm lower-upper-middle class. I own a home, go on vacations, have sports ticket packages, etc. But my neighborhood is slowly being filled with niggers and Arabs and I know I have to move in the next 5-10 years

>>508920970
In all fairness it’s very regional. You can be comfy on 50k a year in Nebraska but in San Jose the cops start out at 115k because of cost of living and how shit being a cop is in California. My wife is a nurse and makes $50 an hour which is very comfy here in the Midwest but she’d double her income working in Sacramento at the cost of paying double for gas, housing, etc. It’s 100% inflated by illegals, nature, and tech sector over paying pajeets and chinks to come here which is likely going to end soon as the job market there seems to be dried up for visa holders kek.

>>508914213
They said live comfortably, not get by. Sure you can survive on minimum wage, but you won't be buying a house or saving for retirement. Being comfortable today costs a lot more than simply surviving until tomorrow

>>508921105
True. Earthquakes, tsunamis, landslides, etc. They’re cheap as fuck to rebuild though.

>>508911156 (OP)
Yes, were gonna expel the kikes and shit coloreds for 1000 years so our children can live and grow.

>>508920010
No, that's just welfare and "free" meals at school

>>508921508
FFS, I mean that the average income is WAY lower than 93k, not that it should be. The average is probably closer to 30k. NO ONE should make under 100k, and the wealth gap needs to be lowered. Without the abject greed of the 1%, all that money would be flowing through the economy. If a wealthy man hires another man for 70,000, he should be taxed the additional 30,000, and it should be transferred to the employee while he watches. Fuck the wealthy. I'd burn them all alive for their avarice.

>>508920927
>2 adult children and a 3yo
KYS immediately you degenerate boomer faggot

>>508911156 (OP)
No but it is a good example of how insane and out of touch those lisping empty suits who write the corporate news really are.

>>508921954
Uh huh, I'm sure that will work out great...

>>508913673
Honestly I think ditching this sinking kike ship is a smart move these days. I can honestly think of zero reasons to stay in America besides family.

>>508911156 (OP)
I make considerably less than that and I would describe my life as EXTREMELY comfy.

People are stupid. Poverty is literally a mental illness.

>all the ESL, bots and retards ITT who can't distinguish the difference between AVERAGE and MEDIAN
>all the ESL, bots and retards ITT who can't tell the difference between AVERAGE needed to be comfortable and ACTUAL average income.

/pol/ really is filled with drooling retards.

>>508914213
>>508913773
This is why we generally use median income instead of average.

>>508911156 (OP)
I make less than 30,000/year and I live quite comfortably.
I have a small 1 bedroom apartment that is pretty cozy. I have electricity, heat, clean running water, a window AC unit, I have a nice computer and a smart phone with mobile internet too. I can afford fresh meat and vegetables and fresh bread to make delicious food with. tonight I made baked potato soup and french bread from the bakery. I can buy a six pack of beer every weekend and enjoy a drink on my days off. I can buy a pack of cigarettes if I want to have a smoke. I am living in the lap of luxury.
I don't understand why they say $90,000+ to live comfortable when I am living comfortably on 1/3rd of that.

>>508911156 (OP)
America is the single worst country in terms of living standard per dollar spent.
Even at $2M/year (after tax) you will have a better life at $250k in Europe or Japan.

>>508913254
>i cant just… NOT buy a 7 dollar beer
This is what im talking about.

>>508922678
>be faggot nigger normie
>get a raise from 45k goybux to 50k goybux
>faggot nigger normie: "omg what do i spend it on i want a new car"
>economy does anything but skyrocket
>faggot nigger normie: "wtf im broke how does i afford these 800/mo. payments on my F150 eggs are xpensive"
*cue political screeching depending on whether they identify as a blue faggot or red faggot*

All you guys who say you live comfortably on less, do not understand that one single medical emergency and you guys are utterly fucked.

>>508922930
based individual with low income haver

>>508922721
Welcome to new /pol/ - it’s complete dogshit and not worth anyone’s time.

But on OPs topic, if you have two kids and want to go on a few vacations a year and save for retirement and college while paying a mortgage, 200k sounds about right. A lot of it goes to taxes, and kids are expensive. But also if you want any extra money to travel with 4 people, you need about 200k or more.

If you never take a vacation that requires a plane, you could probably get by with less. Or if you never save money.

>>508923230
>All you guys who say you live comfortably on less, do not understand that one single medical emergency and you guys are utterly fucked.
It's actually the opposite. If you make something like below 35k I think you can simply refuse to pay any medical bills and they can't garnish wages, it will be forgiven.

And if you are a high earner too just drop your ID and fake unconsciousness while they treat you in the ER

>>508922930
>lives “comfortably”
>doesn’t have a funco pop collection
Cope

>>508923039
I have no idea what you are trying to say.

>>508923299
>I think you can simply refuse to pay any medical bills and they can't garnish wages, it will be forgiven.
This gets repeated all the time here and its not remotely true.

>>508923230
And notice none of these people go anywhere. Try taking a trip out of the country for a week or two - especially with a family.

>>508923250
I saved plenty of money making 50k a year and I saved even more making 130k. I only worked the 130k job for 5 months but I could take the next 3 years off if I pleased. Especially if I went to Indonesia.

Normies are perpetually broke because they're retarded and awful with money.

>>508911156 (OP)
you can live uncomfortably.

>>508923366
It is true though nigger.

>>508923359
does not compute huh AI

>>508923372
Yep, i had the same mindset, i didnt make alot, didnt go anywhere but i had GI issues and had to see a specialist, guess what? That 40k i used to live off comfortably? Didn't mean jack shit and i spent several years fixing my credit. It was miserable.

>>508923461
>It is true though nigger.
It isnt, go ahead and list a single state where it is.

>>508923412
This is true too, but I didn’t want to get into it. However I do think 200k is a nice spot for a family of four if you want to save and have nice things. You can certainly do it on less, but 200k is enough to where you don’t have to really budget or watch your money to make things work between savings, vacations and kids.

A lot of people stress about money because they don’t have much of it. They watch it all the time because they’re used to running out of it. It’s nice to be able to not have to check a budget spreadsheet every time you want to splurge on something because you’re worried you’re going to overdraft your account.

Just out of curiosity, why’d you quit the 130k job? You could have at least stuck it out a couple of years and saved tons.

>>508911156 (OP)
Yes the prices of homes/vehicles/whatever else have sky rocketed since judeo joe started printing trillions to own the russians.

>>508911156 (OP)
For Tampa? Yes
Im in missouri @ 120k. My wife has a small business that makes around 15k net. We have two kiddos. If it wasn't for my debt slavery we would be rolling in it. Im holding out hope I'll get there one day. I am so close but once I have to pay back student loans soon im fucked. Thinking about only fans but im the reacher in my marriage. I could whore out my wife but I have jealousy issues.

>>508911156 (OP)
no they never give break downs on these figures

>>508924099
They do, but its not part of that picture its refering to the 50/30/20 budget method

>>508911156 (OP)
lel in that case no-one in the UK would be alive.

£30k per year is okay and our house prices are literally 4x the US price per sq ft

>>508924382
the entire west is fucked

>>508911156 (OP)
for Tampa? probably

>>508924010
i don't think you realize how fucked up and pathetic this whole post reads.

god damn so many americans are fucked.

>>508911156 (OP)
No way 90k is the average in America, it's way less.

>>508924717
billionaires fuck the average

This is where my dad is from. Russell Kansas. Small town in rural middle America. The biggest industry is the glutton plant that will start new workers out at $21 an hour with frequently available overtime. They will hire anyone for labor no experience necessary. You can easily make $50k a year at that job and competition is low. You can make a 30 minute commute to Hays and find a higher paying job over there if you want. The town has a McDonalds, A&W, a Sonic, and a few small restaurants. You can buy a small shitty starter home very affordable by yourself and if you get married (not hard since half the town are at least 2nd or 3rd cousins) you can quickly save up and buy a bigger nicer house. If you’re a nurse or architect or something hard to get out there then you’re automatically one of the richest people in town. This is what your parents grew up in. This is what they stole from you.

>>508924717
The 1% or the 0.1% are such astronomical outliers they completely fuck up the average. That’s why they use it instead of correctly pointing out salary or wage based on generation or age group. It’s damage control.

>>508923316
Why do people even like those disgusting swollen head dolls anyway, they look like shit.

>>508925141
This one comes with a 40x40 heated workshop. Mind you even if you don’t want to work at the factory you can make a killing on any kind of contractor work. All the farmers are aging and most of the kids leave. If you bought a bobcat with a post hole digger (not even necessary a lot of the time because a lot of fence posts are literally limestone rocks preset for you by settlers in the 1800s) you could run fences and make a comfortable living with no boss.

>>508925141
>See price too good to be true on Zillow
>Pay the admin fee
>Get scammed
Thanks for playing.

>>508925141
>Small town in rural middle America
No one wants to live in fuck nowhere, and if you got a emergency you dont want to drive 2 hours to the nearest hospital

>>508925699
The biggest issue here is actually believing there’s an actuallly affordable house that’s actually for sale. It’s like none of you have seen a listing scam before.

>>508911156 (OP)
Living comfortably; as in getting two coffees every day, take out several times per week, Netflix and Spotify subscription, cigarettes, alcohol, weed, day care, pet food and vet bills, and money for other useless trinkets on Amazon. I live in leaf land with high taxes and in store prices, yet I still manage to put away $1000 per month while taking home only $60k per year because I don't waste money on all the above

>>508925647
>Admin Fee
Or you just ask the neighbors who owns it and give them a call. They have their number. This one has been for sale for 228 days with an 88k tax assessment. You will not have to pay sticker price I assure you.

>>508925974
Bullshit, there would be thousands of people scrambling for a property that cheap. That’s the kind of too good to be true deal people would uproot their entire life for. It’s obviously a scam. I see it every time these threads come up, it’s probably just you fuckers casting your line.

>>508911156 (OP)
Each place has it's own cost of living, and local politics directly influences that. If Democrats are shitting the area up, expect to pay a fuckton extra in pointless taxes (eg a rain tax) and dozens of additional "sin" taxes on goods. Jew private equity could also be fucking the area up too, and NIMBY cunts could be preventing solutions to Democrat caused problems.

Now, that two working adults and kids thing is bullshit, you can DEFINITELY drop that number down, it just requires you both not be playing the "Keeping up with the Joneses" game, and it also means eating at home. That number probably assumes tons of stupid spending plus eating out constantly.

Plus we're toast on blue collar work - shit is hyper expensive. So anything you can DIY you aren't just saving a little bit - you are literally saving many thousands of dollars, and you probably end up saving bullshit DEI hire salaries too on top of that. (But I get not doing DIY stuff - it sucks.)

>>508923461
It just keeps happening.

>>508925433
I’m pretty sure they were told to buy them.
>sufficiently explains why they buy them
>no other explanation exists
Prove me wrong.

>>508925699
>Nobody wants to live in the middle of nowhere!
Oh you mean where all you do is go to McDonalds or Sonic and then go drink a few beers at your buddy Dave’s house and watch tv or play vidya? Yeah that’s totally different from 99% of the rest of your life Eric.
>Theres no hospital for emergencies!
There’s a hospital in town. A bigger one in the next. They have everything they need to deal with work accidents and basic treatments. If you need a specialist for your anal fissures you might have to drive 45 minutes to Wichita once a month. Oh no.
>>508925847
No fucktard it’s an issue of not having a college and limited industry. You can be as comfy there on $50k as you would be on $100k in a lot of places. It’s not just Russell. It’s the entire surrounding area. Everyone buys a small house from the 30s. Fixes it up. If you’re capable of upward mobility you typically just sit there and stack cash. It’s why there are so many brand new jacked up trucks and boats in every young persons driveway. You don’t need an education but if you have one you’re set for fucking life. Want me to compare a million dollar house there to one in Tampa?

>>508926522
i really hate the logic that sure you can live comforably, if you give up things that give you that you enjoy, funny how we have to accept that but our parents didnt

>>508911156 (OP)
A huge amount of people are on half that

>>508926640
I dont know how to tell you this, but doctors are fleeing those small town hospitals, no matter what you say it doesnt change that fact that many of these hospitals are going out of business because they lack the staff to man them. Its a crisis going across rural america everywhere.

>>508911156 (OP)
yes if you don't want to live around niggers

>>508911156 (OP)
That's gold coming from a brit bong

>>508925699
>No one wants to live in fuck nowhere
I do. My suburban mortgage is an equity vehicle for me to eventually cash out and move away from urbanite normie retards

>>508926852
Well your one of the rare ones, because 99% of people arent like that.

>>508926140
Nigger buy a plane ticket. Go see. It’s the exact same economy the boomers had in the 70s. It’s a small town with a factory. Some parts are run down. The old folks can’t keep up with shit, ain’t enough labor to go around to fix their shit so they’re perpetually waiting for Cletus Jr to come back for 4th of July and fix the deck over the long weekend, even if you fuck up at the factory and get fired you will get rehired a week later because they don’t have any other options. There are drunks hanging out at the liquor store that usually work at the factory because there’s no bar. There’s a sad little house where a couple of people with Downes live. Some houses are just flat out empty because mom and dad died and their kid can’t find a buyer. That sinks values everywhere. This one is nice, well kept, large enough for the whole family, and it has an indoor fucking pool. This is all publicly available. You can just look it up for yourself. Hays ain’t much more expensive either and there’s more people and jobs.

>>508926767
Hence why travel nurses became a thing. They make absurd money to travel to places like this a few months at a time. Enough a lot of them just buy a place and sell it when they leave. Russell’s doctors ain’t moving though. They’re locals, married, and deep into town politics. Two of five democrats in the entire town.

>>508926640
That’s fine for you, but again you’re speaking in a way that makes no consideration for a family. Do your wife and kids only want to goto McDonald’s for the rest of their lives? Do you want your kids to get a shitty education in one of the worst states in America? Do you want a competitive income that you can save and retire comfortably with?

Many of these things are not available in rural areas - I know, I grew up in one. The people who live there never leave, they never go on trips, and they work the same job till they retire and then slowly pass away. That’s fine for some people, but again consider a family dynamic: is everyone in your house ok with that? Do you never want your kids to be exposed to anything outside of the tri county area? Is your wife going to be happy sitting in the house all day, watching the feminist daytime tv and getting fat because she doesn’t do anything all day?

You can live like this, but bringing a family into things complicates it. Different people want different things, and most people do not want to live out their days in rural Kansas, otherwise it would be booming.

There are opportunities for people out there who need them, who can’t earn a living in the cities. Your post is a perfect example of that; if people were willing to settle for less and a slower pace of life, they could make a life in these places. But most people want more, they just don’t want to work for it.

>>508926640
>1 million on Russell
>Mansion
>1 million in Tampa
>A fucking town house
KEK

>>508927306
>They’re locals, married, and deep into town politics
This isnt even true though, across of america people are leaving rurals, there are so many problems with moving to such areas, such as food desserts caused by walmart moving and taking mom and pop grocers, you got everybody employed by one big factory, and if that goes out the people are fucked.

>>508926767
>M-m-muh doctors
O no, wtf am I going to do without someone to sell me jewgoo and leech off my insurance

>>508927614
You say that till you got one medical problem your gonna have to see them for, and you will no matter what have one of those one day.

>>508927085
You seem upset I’m exposing you scammers. Get fucked pussy.

>>508923500
All states. It's apart of Obamacare you gorilla nigger. Hospitals are legally required to cover medical bills if you apply for assistance while under 200% of the Federal poverty limit. They also must provide partial coverage under 600%.

>>508911156 (OP)
>$94.4k
I mean, that would be nice but I'm comfortable at $70k. I'd probably just dump it into investments. I watch money pile up and don't know what to do with it.

>>508911156 (OP)
with the inflation rate as it is you are better of spending it. You're losing a percentage of your money every second that you hold it. So either invest it or just blow it on whatever you want. Whatever you do don't save it in a savings account or something. you lose the most that way.

>>508927832
Why are you lying, you cant even show me a law or a state, guess what only 2 fucking states you cant get your waged garnished from medical debt, New york, and delaware. That is it. It is not true for 48 fucking states.

>>508927832
>200% of the Federal poverty limit.
thats 7k a year also dumbass. If you make min wage, you are making more then that, so it doesnt apply to ANYONE

>>508923658
>A lot of people stress about money because they don’t have much of it. They watch it all the time because they’re used to running out of it.
Normies refuse to budget appropriately.

>living equal to your means =/= living above your means

Normies could easily save a few thousand IF they were willing to lower their standards or cut their expenses on pointless shit. Yet the majority of this country couldn't afford a $1000 emergency.

>the majority also carry balances and pay interest on credit cards
>they also pay interest on cars, houses, student loans, etc.

They are literally debt slaves. And they chose it. You can choose to be prudent, make sacrifices, live within your means, and invest. That's what I did. Two years ago I was digging between the sofa for change to buy $7 of gas to get to work at Amazon. Now I make 90k, debt free, and work 30 hours a week. I had to sacrifice to get this. Normies cannot/will not do this and thus will remain poor.

>>508928046
>Normies refuse to budget appropriately.
You cant budget your way out of every fucking thing in the country going up in price and being fucked by inflation. This is one this argument is fucking retarded.

>>508928026
>Federal poverty limit.
>The Federal Poverty Level (FPL) is an annual income threshold set by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services to determine eligibility for various federal programs. For 2025, the FPL for a single person in the 48 contiguous states and the District of Columbia is $15,650. This threshold increases with each additional family member. For example, the FPL for a family of four is $32,150.

15k x 2 = 30k

Of course, you bots/shills refuse to acknowledge that because OBAMACARE was a blue team project, and you're red team NPCs.

>>508927985
>dood what is the ACA isn't that just raparantions for niggers or something dood im literally retarded dood help!

>>508911156 (OP)
The national average single income is not $93,933.

>>508928124
stop being an angry gorilla and butting into my conversation just because you got BTFO before. I bet you're typing retarded bullshit to my post above as we speak.

>muh inflashion is ruining the economie!!1
And guess what ALL wealthy people invest in that always outpaces inflation retard?

>>508928176
how much is 7 bucks an hour for an entire year you stupid nigger. The amount of people who count for federal poverty is fucking small.

I make about $80k and feel pretty comfortable

I think it all depends on your lifestyle and where you live

>>508911972
you probably live in some backwater inbred hick town

>>508928259
This anon is a retarded kike

>>508911156 (OP)
Nominal $ amounts don't mean shit.
And yes, the Living Wage is over $100K for most single adults, with some caveats.

>>508914634
>I made 75k last year and I feel poor.
$70k and I still feel entry-level. I live a slightly better standard of living back when I made $26k over a decade ago. It takes a ton of money to live a very comfortable life stateside.

>>508913103
only anti semites are bothered by that

>>508928267
>>508928300
>the federal poverty limit is $15,000
>200% of the federal poverty limit is $30,000
>anyone under 200% of the federal poverty limit can apply for financial assistance and get their medical bills waived
...
???
>ID: ClxXVqVW
>REEEEEEEEE ABLOO BLOOO BLOOO REEEEEEE REEEEEEEE

>>508927384
My point is that literally EVERYONE can survive there. You know the same fucking smooth brained under achievers that are dropping out of society? They’re doing fine there. Lower middle class working Al Bundy motherfuckers can actually exist. If you have a nice nest egg already, can work remotely, or are educated enough to get a stem job you’re fucking set.
>Shitty education
Mine was pretty decent actually. Like half these kids go to Catholic school anyway. Lots of fucking Catholics out there.
>McDonalds for the rest of their lives?
No but pretending fast food doesn’t make up half the diet of the average American is dishonest. Plus the restaurant by the highways got some good chicken fried steak. Just gonna lay it out you can afford more vacations in that economy than you can overpaying for a shithole in Chicago and barely scraping by.
>Tri county area!
Someone never played little league. And again. If you have an actual career that earns above the BARE MINIMUM you are stacking cash that allows you to do things such as pay off your house and buy that condo down in Florida.
>Muh family
What you don’t understand is that urbanization is what is killing our birth rates. They aren’t making it on current wages in urban centers. People need space to raise a family. People are waiting longer and longer to marry and reproduce. The dating market is oversaturated thanks to social media. People flat out aren’t developing the social skills required to succeed in a relationship because everyone is much more expendable. They’re calling this the age of loneliness. And nobody can figure out why? It’s because people care more about having the option of going to a beach they stop going to a month after they move to California or Florida. You know why politicians keep mass importing immigrants? It’s to stall the drop in the fucking birth rates dude.

>>508911156 (OP)
>94k/yr
>live comfortably
I live comfortably off 500 dollars a month, let alone 8,000.
>270/mo rent trailer
>10/mo internet
>food stamps
>80~/mo electricity
>no car/car insurance- bike to work
the only reason I wish I made more money is to afford larger charity. I have male pattern baldness and I looked it up to see how it develops out of curiosity. All image results were before/after, sad/smiling esque retardation. Anyways, that's the likeness of this country.

>>508927540
Yes because they need to go to college to find a spouse they aren’t related to. Who inevitably is from a more populated area they end up moving to in order to improve their career and experience urban living. Then they realize their mistake and compromise to move to the suburbs…if they’re lucky enough to ever afford it.
>>508927720
You are colossally retarded anon

>>508927384
you have a glorified view of life. live, die, attain eternity. nothing is worth any money except in my ability to pierce your heart with it to communicate truth.
>no traveling
>rural
>no education
>fat
>mcdonalds
these are all bad decisions. wealth is not correlated with good decision making.

>>508928786
but where's your heckin F150, mcmansion, and degree in queerology?

>>508911156 (OP)
depending on where you live rent is already 2k-3k a month so yeah

>>508914728
Well you have 2% JEWS that skim off all the wealth, what do you expect?

It‘s literally in their world domination plans to amass all the wealth in a jews-only circle and enslave all the goyim outside of a couple subservient billionaires like bezos or musk.

>>508911156 (OP)
An "average" is very misleading.

>>508928786
you are salt of the earth fren. He who is content with little, has much

>>508929509
Goys would be very rich too if they were financially prudent.

If you invested 48k a year, for instance. Over 70 years at 7% interest that number would compound to
>$77 million dollars (INFLATION ADJUSTED)

If your children aren't retarded goys they'd be multibillionaires. Unfortunately, most of my fellow whites are either retards or their nepo babies turn into retards and waste all the money away on stupid shit.

>>508929446
the only thing I expect from the world is trial but I hope for confirmation of who I am in my struggles. OP pic rel is a complete molestation of everything im comprised.

>>508929582
when humility is glorified where is it left

>>508911156 (OP)
No unless you are just really, really bad with money.

>>508929906
how about I give you nothing and you throw one rock in my lawn once a day for 70 years. eventually you'll realize how retarded your post is.

Me and my wife make probably 100k a year together
But we live in Orange county, CA
We live in a working class neighborhood

>>508911595
Yeah, but it has to get worse before it gets more worse.

>>508913409
Cool story, faggot.

>>508911156 (OP)
I make $84k/year in Jupiter, FL and I have no idea what to do with all of my money.

>>508911518
Thats your lucky quarter, put it in your pocket.

I just moved to FL a few months ago and the rent is the cheapest I've paid since I've been an adult. I pay $1300/mo for a 2bdrm house with a garage. In NJ where I'm from that would get you a roommate.

>>508911156 (OP)
What does 'comfortably' means?
Large house, 3 cars and summer villa?

>>508931953
>>508932248
I don't like Florida

>>508932456
I don't either, but I took the job out of college (didn't go to school in Florida) to break into the industry and I'm going to start looking for new jobs in different states next year.

I have been to 21 states so far and in the big cities, especially on the coasts it is quite insane when it comes to housing prices.
I don't really understand why people for instance in LA even price their homes at those prices because they seem to not being sold at all. There are so many 180+ days listings in there, and houses and condos for that matter, that I can see have been listed for years and years, and that only mean its not worth the price.
I think that if there is a market for expensive homes then yes, but its not. LA and NY have listings that is basically towards ultra rich people and its a hard sell that make no sense. LA is not Monaco.

>>508911156 (OP)
>comfortably
it depends if you own your own house
if you do, then you could live on 50k per year "comfortably," even with two kids

>>508932638
i always wanted to fuck a crazy floridian chick like deb from dexter

>>508911768
There’s nothing confusing about that infographic. And the figures are probably accurate. You definitely need to make at least $100k to be close to comfortable. And about 200k for a family.

>>508928046
Sir, this is 4chan in 2025. We're right about everything. Regardless of it being unsolveable problems like illegals causing wage deflation or jews causing inflation, you could just "push a broom," and have a better time 30 years ago than today. It's not a laziness thing.

>>508911212
Yes

>>508933585
>this is 4chan in 2025. We're right about everything
That meme hasnt been remotely true since 2017

>>508911156 (OP)
The fuck.. i earn 22 an hour

>>508935125
wait, are you denying that a menial laborer 30 years ago had a stronger purchasing power than a college grad today? Thats not even controversial.

>>508935125
oh nvm i didn't realize you had 17 posts in this thread and that you're a bot

>>508935319
>are you denying that a menial laborer 30 years ago had a stronger purchasing power than a college grad today?
nigger read what I typed very carefully you fucking idiot.

99% chance this shitstain is a bot

>>508911156 (OP)
Lies. It’s semitic propaganda to keep downward pressure on western nation birth rates.
>t. Married anon in a $90k single income family living comfortably with 2 kids and a mortgage.
It can easily be done if you’re not a fucking retard.

>>508914728
This is what my parents each made when I was growing up. When I graduated from college, Goldman and the other bulge-bracket investment bnaks paid $60,000 plus up to another $60,000 bonus--$120,000 total for 100+ hour workweeks. How the fuck is the "average" individual making $90,000+?>>508911156 (OP)

>>508911156 (OP)
>comfortable: based on women's retarded and ever changing standards/spending habits.
no woman but i now own a house bought in cash literally 1 minute from work so no need for a car. things are looking up. if only i had been able to manage it 10-15 years ago..

>>508935733
The highest paid workers now outside of 'selling-your-soul'-tier careers now like (((Doctor))) (((nurses))) are all trades.

People shit on tradies but tradies are unironically the highest paid of all wagecucks now.

>>508936054
tradies have their own issues, I wish them luck.

>>508911156 (OP)
>National average: $93k
Total fucking bullshit. No wonder my boomer parents think everyone is making $100k/yr now. Fox News is trash.

>>508936146
I never felt fulfilled at all working in an office as a white collar cuck it legitimately made me feel suicidal having to do absolutely worthless make-work all day.

Now I make triple that as a tradesman and can look at what I accomplished at the end of the day with pride.

>>508914343
Sure you did.

>>508911518
Do Americans really not own their homes? Don't your parents and grandparents pass them down? I live in a house I inherited from my great-grandmother. I'm set to inherit a farm and an apartment in the future. The wife will also inherit properties. I'll leave all that and whatever I build to my children some day.

>>508914042
>We have a household income of $350k and I don’t feel wealthy.
I love how everyone on /pol/ is either making $100k+ or a retired millionaire with multiple paid off houses and vehicles. Hahahahahaha, lmao.

>>508936211
glad to hear you found something that works (and pays) well for you anon.

I looked into it back when i was going to college/uni and it was just not a good deal were i live.

I have manage to find a perfectly tolerable wagie technician job probably stay in it till i die/retire if i can. its doesn't pay amazing but i can work as much or as little as i want more or less including OT.

>>508936306
No for multiple reasons. One of many can be.

1) Reverse mortgage (It's a Jewish trick where boomers sign up to get a check every month every month equal to that of a mortgage payment. They can just stay in their home though rent free. But when they die the Jewish lender gets the whole house)
2) inheritance taxes make it impossible to pay without selling the asset
3) if multiple chlldren are involved, the only bwau to settle is sell and split
4) boomers go and live in bumfuck nowhere with zero career opportunities, making it impossible to live there unless you are yourself retired.

>>508936306
>Don't your parents and grandparents pass them down?
This was the case until Boomers decided to sell everything they own to each other at higher and higher prices, which contunues to this day

>>508936306
It's an American pastime to have children with the explicit purpose of hampering their life prospects. Bonus points are awarded if you wind up with mindless NPC brown mutt grandchildren.

>>508936462
That's fucked up. What's the point of having this shit if you can't pass it on?

>>508911156 (OP)
>Mfw landed a comfy state job several years ago
>12 hour overnight shift, completely alone out in the country
>About 2 hours of actual work, the rest is monitoring panels while I quite literally do whatever the fuck I want
>About 60k a year before deductions + state health and retirement
>Still can't afford a decent house away from all the filth because my market is completely fucked right now, livable houses starting at 200k+ even in bumfuck nowhere
At least my job doesn't make me want to kill myself I guess...if I had managed to unfuck my life a little bit sooner I could have actually had a nice place out in the country, but now it seems like I'm just fucked forever unless the housing apocalypse happens (it won't).
I really hate living amongst niggers and wiggers. I literally can't have my mail shipped to my house.

my net monthly pay is 7250/mo (make slightly over 100k in no state income tax state)

>mortgage 1350/mo (bought a home 8 years ago - refinanced to 2.75% rate in 2021)
>utilities 300/mo
>vehicle expenses 200/mo (car is paid off)
>food 800/mo (i eat out a lot)
>hobbies ~400/mo (golf league)
>misc. household expenses ~150/mo (repairs/maintenance)
>amazon shit ~150/mo (clothes, hygiene, cleaning, household items, etc.)

4000/mo left over that goes into savings (crypto/stocks)

i take 3-4 vacations per year

if i had to buy a house at today's prices and rate, and i had 2+ kids (w/daycare), probably wouldn't be able to save much of anything

>>508911156 (OP)
I make $32k in a tiny town in the middle of nowhere and have severe arthritis, unfortunately I have to rent and I have no prospects of finding better work. Can barely wake up in the mornings to even do basic maintenance around the house or see a doctor when I need to, I go to bed but can't sleep due to the pain. Can't do physical therapy due to the pain either, doctors barely give out anything for pain these days including clinics and urgent care places, it sucks slogging every day but I keep living out of pure spite. I don't gamble, have no subscriptions, no TV and I've never been to jail for a damn thing, just trusted the wrong people and made a couple bad decisions early in life. All my family is gone except my father who is barely coherent himself, I look after him as best I can but he probably won't last another year or two. Alive but not really living? Existing.
>feelsbadman

>>508936649
Passing shit onto chlldren is only for the elite in this country. That's why they don't own houses. They own shell corporations that own their home and transfer the shell corporation to their family to avoid a transaction of the asset itself, which can avoid shit like taxes and reassessment. It's why there's buildings in San Francisco worth 30m+ taxed on their $60,000 price in like fucking 1890

>>508937355
That's so alien to me. Where can I read about this kind of thing? It sounds fascinatingly evil.

>>508936306
boomer parents consider their children to be selfish and entitled, most of them are brainwashed into giving their kids nothing and either going on lavish vacations until they die, buying a bunch of garbage, or giving it all to some retarded scam of a charity because they idolize Warren buffet and Bill gate’s who LARP and pay to put out articles claiming they are philanthropists. And for this, they get either mutt grandkids if their kids are idiots or no grandkids if their kids are smart

>>508936306
>I inherited from my great-grandmother
Stfu u lying fag. You're from bulgaria. Everyone there either lives in shacks or communist blocs. You don't own shit unless you're a crypto kike who's family thrived during the communist era. In that case u deserve the rope.

>>508937643
It’s because of that that I’m sure they are more decent people. My poor father would give you the shirt on his back while my rich mother would tell you to fuck yourself. If I ever had kids, and I probably won’t, I would be like my father.

>>508937178
>I really hate living amongst niggers and wiggers

i can't stand the wiggers... the niggers are easy to avoid, you just check school and neighborhood demographics

i lived in the SF bay area in a 1.6 million home and still had to deal with wiggers next door (pic related)

next home i buy is going to be on 10+ acres, i'm done dealing with people

>>508937781
If that’s a pic of you delete it bro, where the fuck do you think you are

>>508937462
You know, I'm not sure. I learn these things by talking to informed friends and family. But it isn't out there as common knowledge. I can't say why. Maybe because your average cattle just pay it or no mind or it's (((bad))) to draw attention to it.
It's all in tax laws and all that. Surely yo could Google around or something.

Here's another fun one. You know how just about every rich movie star asshole and other rich person in the USA has a ranch? It's not because they're some pompous born again farmer living the life. If you do any type of farming, you can get your taxes and other things reduced in your property value each year.
Another one of those bullshit tricks.

>>508914873
>200/mo for food
That's about 5 days for me. How the hell do you do that? Are you shooting deer and raccoons out back and making soup every day?

>>508938014
Stop eating goyslop at restaurants and learn to cook ffs

>>508911156 (OP)
Most

>>508911972
floridians have zero standards. comfortable to you could mean sitting in your swamp ass sweat all day eating greasy chicken like a nigger

>>508938155
Wrong Florida is incredible
t. Ex Californian

>>508938126
I mainly grab sushi and sliced roast beef, turkey and cheese from the grocery store. Sushi is about 20 bucks for a good size plate, the roast beef and turkey maybe average 10 bucks a pound. Also yogurt, nuts and various crackers that I used to make little bite size sandwiches from my meat and cheese. Nothing fancy. That protein adds up bro. I'm lazy because I'm single and I don't like to cook, but there's no freaking way of full size adult human male is getting by on $6.50 a day worth of whatever.

>>508911156 (OP)
Yes, they expect us to pay for the existence of useless browns

>>508938319
State?

>>508937999
Crazy. I knew about the charity tax deductions, but not about the ranches.

>>508911156 (OP)
$94k/year
yeah, if you live in bumfuck Iowa

Define "comfortably".
It requires a minimum $108,000 annual income to qualify for a death pledge on the median home price in Bakersfield, CA.

>>508936306
>inherit parents homes
yeah, uh, when they die, so what do you do for the previous 50 years?

>>508938626
Bakersfield is a terrible place. These days it’s literally Mexico

>>508938655
This too. Boomers will live till fucking 100 while we rot. Can’t rely on those crooks

>>508938248
ive been plenty of times to all places good and bad north and south. easy contender for top 3 worst states in the union, you need to have an actual mental illness to believe otherwise

>>508938014
i agree, even when i was poor it was ~$15/day to eat

breakfast omelet + orange juice ($4)
>$1 for eggs (3 eggs)
>$1 for diced ham (4 servings per $4 bag)
>$1 for cheese (4 servings per $4 bag)
>$1 for orange juice (4 glasses per $4 half gallon)

lunch chicken caesar salad ($5)
>$3 for salad kit
>$2 per chicken breast
>water

dinner chicken + veggies + rice ($5)
>$0.20 for rice
>$3 per chicken breast
>$1 bag of veggies
>$0.50 for a pint milk ($4 per gallon)

even that basic shit is $420/mo, not sure how people are eating for $200/mo

>>508937331
raw vegan

>>508937643
You're a retard. The vast majority of Bulgarians lived in villages and small towns until the 90s. A house on a farm was the norm. Only city fags lived in commie blocs.

>>508938717
Where did you even go? All the cities? Must have went to the poor places full of browns. The white areas are comfy

>>508937630
gates daughter is dating a nigger tho

>>508938750
Based vegan bro. But I’m not raw.

>>508911156 (OP)

Depends on the area but no. The system likes to exaggerate this shit.

>>508938655
I already answered that. I live in my great grandmother's house. My mother inherited it but she gave it to me. All I had to do was renovate it, which cost around 20k and now my wife and I have a little house with a yard for my dog. If I had bought a flat, that would have cost 200k at least.

>>508938822
Thats what he gets for being a faggot and trying to teach his kids a lesson instead of creating generational wealth. I treat my mother accordingly for the same behavior

>>508911661

If you could not answer his email you are a government leech and should kys, Its unlikely you understand this because the people working those jobs are not people and do not have souls.

>>508938609
Just wait until you figure out money laundering and tax deductions from "fine art"

>>508939023
Oh, so that's why all those rich faggots have paintings and shit in their mansions.

>>508938798
i said everywhere and i meant it too. ive seen this entire country minus certain indian reservations. cope all you want but floridia is a complete shithole. all of the history and archiecture that can be appreciated there belongs to the spanish. lol, lmao even

>>508939095
>architecture
>ive seen the whole country
do you live in a van faggot. What the fuck do you know, I’ve seen 2/3 of the country myself.

>>508925699
>No one wants to live in fuck nowhere
Amerimutt skill issue

>>508939091
It is also an alternative investment, wine collections are investments too because wine gets more expensive over time.

>>508911156 (OP)
The modern european mind cannot comprehend these numbers. Look at avg salaries for some of these positions. Yes it costs a lot to live but we absolutely mog europoors earning potential. Across the board. But don't let that distract you from the fact that we are all slaves. Its just the slaves in the states mostly live much nicer than lives than the poors do.

>>508938626
you can get a starter home on the northwest side of town (the majority white R+40 side) for 400k

with 20% down this is a 2600/mo payment (DTI limits are up to 45% of gross income)

2600/mo divided by 0.45 = 5777/mo = 69k/year

if you put the minimum down (3%) then it's harder, you will have a 3165/mo mortgage, but you could qualify for this with a 84k salary

teachers in bakersfield START out at 63k/year, if you have 2 working adults you will easily qualify for a mortgage

>>508939445
Better learn spanish. That place is an absolute shithole

>>508939305
>we absolutely mog europoors earning potential.
doesn't mean shit if you earn 2x more but everything costs 2.5x more.

>>508939180
does it even matter? ever notice how the only nice things people have to say about florida, have nothing to do with florida itself? the laws are le based, i love my publix goyslop, florida man! never does anyone say, wow i love this 100 degree humid swamp, this wonderful flat terrain and hurricane season flooding all the roads so i cant go anywhere. no one has anything actually nice to say about the state itself, only the dickshit politics of it

>>508911156 (OP)
To live COMFORTABLY?
Yeah, that's about right.
Comfortably is a decent sized house in a nice area, two cars, yearly vacations abroad for a month, and latest electronics trends.

Just scraping by? About $1,000 a month after taxes, insurance, rent and such. So $1,000 for food, gas, and a little bit of fucking about.

I've lived fine off $1,000 a month before anything got taken out before, but that was back around 2002 and I had a roommate in Crack Town.

Josh Block complains he makes 400 grand a year, you gotta be shitting me thats great money.

>>508911156 (OP)
What a hellish country

>>508939735
>make 90k a year working in Hell
>get shot

>>508932826
I've never even tried lmao

>>508939623
It absolutely matters if you live in a van wtf

https://parti.com/creator/parti/worldoftshirts2001

>>508936649
Boomers unironically do not believe they owe their kids a god damn thing.
Very much of the mindset "I earned mine. You go earn yours" and they almost universally sell their property off before they die to fuck off in their twilight years.

The two people I know that actually got a house through inheritance was through their great grandparents. I know of zero kids from boomers that ever got a house from their parents or anything other than ashes really.

>>508911156 (OP)
>National average
Now show it without the top 1% of earners.

>>508939928
Correct median is more accurate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xPuMO-shn8

>>508939623
>it got to hot in his stinky van in florida now he curses all the southern states
good we don’t need homeless here

>>508939928
>>508939972
Christ worse than I thought

>>508936462
Can you avoid inheritance tax by gifting the house to your kids? Or does that also incur other taxes like it does here in Germany?

>>508940251
If you put it in a trust you can avoid quite a bit. Most boomers are too fucking stupid and just die

>>508939916
the bootstraps mentality created an easy justification for boomoids to give their children nothing

>the whole 'you gotta earn it yourself bucko'

>>508911156 (OP)
Nah that too high. You can live comfortably with $40k after taxes as a bachelor in many parts of the country.

>>508940315
That being said, you won't be able to plan for retirement on that kind of money. For that you should be making at least $60k after taxes and probably start buying investment properties when you can afford to.

>>508940315
>$40k after taxes
so... 80k a year

>>508940315

40 grand is 3300+ a month. You are barely scraping by if you have a car payment, gas rent, utilities and food. Youd be breaking even.

>>508939091
Pretty much.
The real lucrative tax breaks are the ones that make insider rings. A bunch of rich faggots get together and find some starving artist or some dead artist with a handful of works that wouldn't get sold at goodwill. They all buy a few and then pass them around, buying them from one another at increasing prices back and forth. It causes all their other "still owned" ones to appreciate.

So at the end of they day, you buy say, 10 paintings for $500 total. Your pals toss around paintings and you get on the hook buying one for $500k from your pal, but then you donate 3 or 4 the next year at around a ballpark of $250-500k each to dodge $1m+ in taxes

>>508940412
>start buying investment properties when you can afford to.
No point in that really.

You can just put the money into an index fund and get an average return of 10% a year without doing anything.

>>508938745
All wrong, even the pic

>>508940251
The gift would exceed a threshold and they'd incur income taxes on it I believe. But as the other anon mentioned you just use shell corporations or other indirection to make it so the asset ever changes hands. Just the shell Corp.

>>508940412
>start buying investment properties when you can afford to.

Bad idea, not everyone is cut out to be a landlord or take the responsibility of fixing properties up to be one. Its a shit ton of work and I have friends who became landlords and they want out.

>>508940412

It takes a specific kind of person to be a landlord and be able to deal with a lot of stress.

>>508922721
I get your first point, but not the second point. Is it about factoring in income tax?

>>508939623
people have a love/hate relationship with florida depending on the month of the year

florida is lightyears better than other southern states - better jobs, education, beaches, fishing, boating, winter weather, etc

the laws/politics are just a bonus to that

if there weren't so many fucking shit skins and boomers, i would spend more time in the winters there

>>508938571
CaliWali. I'm the last white guy here

>>508911518
Less than $20k ? Fucking based.

>>508914042
Ive been looking to buy and realistically you need 200k or more for a wife and 2 kids. 100k is not what it usedto be and people saying its a lot are coping. It still seems like a lot because of how few people make 6 figures but it doesnt hold the financial value it used to.

>>508911768
Households with children tend to be people who are older/more financially stable since raising a kid isn't cheap. Average is unfortunately correct, but it's misleading because the rich are just so rich they skew it. Generally better to look at the nation median, which is ~$43k single adult, and ~$80k for a household.

>>508919055
Your problem isnt with wealth its with the lack of community ties that globohomo economies have created. The 1% used to invest in their own communities and workers. National populism was the reason. But now you have people who hold affinity to whichever country or market is most profitable. You can thank the left for destroying cultural cohesion on this. Ask the avg poltard if they were a billionaire with your views where theyd invest money and the answer is
>lmao im not investing in muh community for gibzniggers who hate me to hate me harder

>>508920745
In bay area, los angeles etc 100k is actual poverty. Rent can be 4k, electric internet utilities will eat 500, then food insurance car eats the rest. After tax on 100k you keep about 5700. Pretty crazy.

>>508920927
Your mortgage is probably 1k if your kids are that old. 500k 2k sqft home will be 3700 these days

>>508921954
You are retard anon. You dont even understand whats wrong with your ideas.

>>508925141
>>508925456
Median Russel KS household income is 53902/yr ( https://datausa.io/profile/geo/russell-county-ks ) which filed as married with no retirement contributions is 45,448/yr or 3787/mo ( https://smartasset.com/taxes/income-taxes )
A 189,500 valuation property at 10% down 30yr 6.761% rates is 1600.13/mo ( https://www.nerdwallet.com/mortgages/mortgage-calculator/kansas ) for principal, interest, pmi, taxes, and insurance - or 42% of the household income - which makes you house poor.
The property valuation might look small vs living in le big city or whatever, but it's just as unaffordable to locals as anywhere else.
Once you tack on food, fuel, cars, savings, etc - it's not feasible unless you already got rich elsewhere. You can't bootstraps your way in cheap locales with local salaries anymore.

>>508911156 (OP)
Meanwhile Median earns like half of it in USA (and equally bad pretty much anywhere else). What does it say about us?
>>508911768
Average is not median. It's billionaires money and homeless money divided equally for everyone. Median is the number that average 50% earns which is the actual number you should be looking at. Average is worthless, if you earn 50k and a billionaire earns 50 billion then both of you earn 25bn on average which makes no sense.

>>508911156 (OP)
They really need to remove the top 1% of people when they release these “averages” it is insanely misleading

Fake and gay MSM trying to pretend Americans are better off than they are

>>508932657
Airbnb rentfags
Illegals driving demand (cali is more than 50% illegals now)
Big tech

Washington is same problem.
Oregkn gets people from cali and wa who voted for illegals and high taxes but cant afford to live in cali or wa any more. Then they vote the same in oregon too. Most people should never be allowed to vote.
Coasts have the worst things going for them.

>>508925141
>shows and explains how you can still easily make it if you move to rural USA
>ends with "this is what they're stole from you"

That's about the education level I would expect from someone who grew up in bumfuck nowhere Kansas

>>508920970
That's not the national average salary, it's the national average salary needed to live comfortably.

>>508939091
Hunter sold art for the biden estate recently, remember?

>>508940251
You will get fucked no matter what and owe 30% on the value of estate.

>>508911156 (OP)
Yes. It is true.

>>508911156 (OP)
if only you knew just how extensively and irrevocably christcucks screwed everybody over for the benefit of jews

>>508911156 (OP)
Im at about $117,000 but im in stupid nyc so it don't mean shit. Welfare blacks def living better then me.

>>508911156 (OP)
Nigger, like half your money goes to your government no matter where you live
At least there's options to live for way less over here and now starlink is making living in the middle of nowhere where land is cheap even more appealing

>>508913103
>>508928411
You should be allowed to earn money in America without being a jewish golem.
Otherwise we will all leave the country.

>>508922623
>>508913673
The only good aspect of America is 1A and 2A and neither of those are upheld to the proper standard.
The land is also great.
But it's not enjoyable when immigrants(jews) have all the money while the founding stock that built this place just starves.
So moving would be a good idea, even to China if you want to escape ZOG.
Thailand or Japan would be cool.
Japan is ideal.

>>508914343
Your money was ten times as valuable as now

>>508920821
If I could afford a house then I can start a family.

>>508936591
>>508936306
>>508936462
It's not really a past time to intentionally ruin their own children's lives.
It's more of a loyalty test of loyalty to jewry.
What good does it do for the jews if the Americans are doing well, so these roasties will intentionally try to destroy their own kids for the sake of their paymasters.
I really want to escape this country but I have to stay I can't afford to leave.

>>508940889
Yeah I love Florida.
It's better than California.

>>508911156 (OP)
It’s about right. I went from 17.50 an hour, basically paycheck to paycheck to 25-28 dollars an hour, wife makes 55k and both our cars are 10+ years old, no kids, no house, still broke. I’m a 35 year old white guy with a college degree but whatever, I went to school for history and I suppose it’s always been rich vs poor and we all about it get much much poorer