Thread 508933189

Switch to Linux now

Switch to Linux now, not at some indeterminate point in the future, now.
This is highly political because we live our lives on computers, and with Microsoft you are giving up everything to a company that hates you. You do not own your computer, Bill Gates does. He decides what you can do with it, he knows everything you do on it. Why? There is no reason for it. I put off switching for years because I thought it was """hard""" or something. It isn't, you just install it and use it. Do it now.

>Back up the files you need to keep on an external HD
>Download Linux Mint from here. Get another distro if you want, but if you don't know then just get Mint
https://linuxmint.com/download.php
>If your computer in ancient choose Mate, otherwise choose Cinnamon
>Download Etcher or Rufus to flash to a USB stick
>Restart your computer and follow the extremely basic instructions that even a retard could follow
>ERASE WINDOWS, DO NOT DUAL BOOT. YOU WILL NOT NEED WINDOWS AGAIN

That's the whole thing, so just do it. Watch this video if you need extra help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mUI3CMjmMc

FAQs:
>Isn't it hard and you need to be a hacker?
No
>But I need to play muh gameys
Grow up faggot, but anyway you can still play them
>I need to use some program which is windows only
You almost definitely don't, but even still it's barely any more effort to run it in WINE on Linux
>Linux is free if your time is worthless heh heh
It literally saves you time, it is easier to deal with than Windows. It will not cost you any time if you run something simple like Mint, you only get into autistic shit with certain distros.

OK that's all, so do it.

>>508933189 (OP)
Its just not happening

>>508933294
Absolutely do not care. This is for people who have it in the back of their mind but never quite get around to it, or those who are totally oblivious.

Got questions about GNU/Linux minimalism or want to share your journey? Jump in! Everyone is welcome here, no matter your experience level.

Bloatware slows things down, creates security issues, and makes software harder to use by piling on features most people don’t need. Minimalist software, on the other hand, keeps things simple and efficient — it respects your time and doesn't waste your device’s resources.

Great resources for computing minimalism

>Operating Systems
nosystemd.org
>Daily driver Software
suckless.org/rocks
harmful.cat-v.org/software
>world wide web (www)
suckless.org/sucks/web
>Great minimalist website examples
garbe.ca
bellard.org
stallman.org

“One of my most productive days was throwing away 1000 lines of code.” – Ken Thompson

>>508933189 (OP)
Basically, your government can't run on Linux, and it sure as hell won't run on Mac.

Windows based programmers and hacktivists still use Windows and understand that flow of data.

You can also encrypt your Windows if you're worried about security.

Anon, takes the MicroSoft pill.

Windows 11 with CoPilot will help bring you into the alien new future we're entering.

>>508934001
Actually there are dozens of governments around the world who use Linux either partially or entirely for their PCs.

>Windows 11 with CoPilot will help bring you into the alien new future we're entering.
LOL

Normalfags keep out.

>>508933189 (OP)
>even still it's barely any more effort to run it in WINE on Linux
Really just depends.
Improvement has been rapid the past decade, though.

>>508933189 (OP)

A few day ago I checked this and it seems that there are still no drivers for Mint or Linux generally, for example you need to fight 2 hours with your computer to make it to take screenshots. Mouse doesn't work, sound doesn't work, nothing works. "B-but it's freedom, you can install whatever drivers you want!" Well I don't want to install drivers, I want a computer which works. You have had decades to solve this and still your precious open source shit fails in the only task which is actually important for its users, to make a computer work effortlessly.

>>508933189 (OP)
Linux used to house a pedo message board for turner studio [adult swim]? They run a board now called uneven edge. It's full of the same degenerates from years back.

I'm already using GNU/Linux since 2016. I really want to be a woman.

>>508934001
>won't run on Mac
Mac is basically Linux just polished and monetized

>>508933189 (OP)
I mained linux for like 6 months. Nothing works on it. Everything is a struggle to do even the most basic things. Random shit will break constantly and you have to restart the computer. Things as simple as the right click popup window not dissapearing. How did they manage to fuck this up? I had a linux using friend that spent like 6 hours just trying to set discord up so he could share his screen.

This was debian if you are wondering.

>>508934649
What the fuck, stop using retard distros. Holy shit its not that hard.

>>508934001
The fucking memefalg is a bill gates shill.

>>508934649
Crazy, because I just pushed the PrtSc button on my keyboard and this happened. I never had to set anything up to do this, it worked by default. Same with drivers, I never installed any drivers manually, I just plugged my shit in and it worked.

I don't even know why people say shit like this, I have never come into any issues at all like this. As I said in the OP, different distros are very different. Some you need to set up a lot of things manually, but that's the entire point of them. Mint in particular is made to just work out of the box for people who are used to windows and maybe not that smart or good with tech, like yourself.

Weird that you would have such a strong opinion without ever actually trying it.

>>508933189 (OP)
There are people who can barely use windows. Using computers is a chore for some people. Linux is a type of operating system where learning is required to use it. Its that way by design and why its so functional and great and secure. They just simply aren't going to care enough to want to reap the advantages of Linux. If something goes wrong they want to take it to someone who can fix it. Or call support or whatever.

>>508933189 (OP)
>invite a mob of over idealistic techilliterate niggers
this is how you ruin good things

>>508934889
>discord trannies.

The problem with all the Linux faggots is that they forget to tell you that changing OS means changing mindset.

All your windows shortcuts and commands are copied over in strange ways, You can't get around the fact that a user still has to learn to unmount and then remove a drive instead of just removing a drive on windows.

Lots of small issues that cause long term problems because they forget to also tell people that you need to learn to Script for Linux to really make it worthwhile.

>>508933433
>stallman.org
>read his political pablum
this stallman guy is a fucking crank

>>508933189 (OP)
Linux has now been taken over by Google, Microsoft and Amazon. IBM were already ruining things for decades.
There are so many fucking trannies now infiltrating into every single distro. systemd is a cancer, now wayland is the new cancer
there is nowhere left except for openbsd

>>508933189 (OP)
I sincerely hope AI gets good enough that it can rewrite a version of linux that actually works. These open source autists clearly cannot handle it.

>>508934889
>Random shit will break constantly and you have to restart the computer.
This is the core difference between linux and windows. When linux is broken it stays broken until you fix it. There is kind of a requirement to learn how to configure it correctly. Its stable on literally 99.99% of hardware. Windows tends to have these ephemeral problems that are just the result of bad design and coding. With windows rebooting is the solution. Which is a very strange problem to have. With linux rebooting is never the solution. Because you have some kind of configuration issue.

They should just rename it reddit-os

>>508933189 (OP)
I keep meaning to do this. When my current comp dies I'll make a cheap AMD box with linux just for going on the internet.
The deadline for Win10 support will be the tie breaker for me.

Here's a crazy idea. Why doesn't someone steal and release the entire source code for Windows 7 / 10 so that it can become a global open source project OS?
I'm sure businesses would appreciate it.

>>508935208
no, bullshit. my right click popup box would go away when I relaunched. Only sometimes would it refuse to be dismissed too. I have had way fewer bugs on windows 11 than debian.

>>508933189 (OP)
I used debian for 20 years, bought a $3k MacBook last week. The shit that took me forever to compile on shitty Amd64 arch takes a second now

>>508933189 (OP)
Windows
>commits crimes against humanity
Linux
>will commit crimes against itself if commanded to

>>508935246
Apple is for teenage girls, Linux is for the most nerdy reddit transexuals, Win11 is a privacy concern. Just use Win10 forever? What is the problem with end of support? What do you need support for? You going to call the microsoft help desk saaar

>>508935292
>debian
There is your problem right there. If you really want to use linux you should do linuxfromscratch.org. I know it seems like a lot to go through for an operating system but by the time you are finished with it you will be smart enough to run linux and you will have a machine that will have an uptime of years. I ran my home machine on one of those for 5 years without a reboot. And one day I made a mistake as root on the command line and deleted the entire hard disk. The operating system was still running and all the programs I had previously opened were still running. Including the network. I had a working web browser. Out of curiosity I left it alone just to see if it would crash. After 2 weeks I finally just gave up and pulled the plug.

Based but Linux is also pozzed by Redhat acting as a shadow Microsoft.

>>508933189 (OP)
B U M P

>>508934649
> be me
> got a used thinkpad off of ebay today
> put debian on a USB stick
> boot to USB stick
> run installer
> next next next...
> reboot, desktop works, wifi works, bluetooth works, internet works
your are an embarrassment to Finland

>>508935452
>What is the problem with end of support? What do you need support for?
Since it's not open source, eventually there will be an exploit that is discovered and never fixed. Also, with end of support, even your virus definitions won't be updated.
In open source projects vulnerabilities are usually found and fixed (by somebody) in the first few months of public release (or even before).
There was that one vulnerability found in a Linux module (or pak or whatever) and it was traced back to a glow nigger coder. That was just because people were getting too lazy and not checking each other's work.
This is also why they are so keen to put back doors at the hardware level now. Eventually open source fixes these problems (except all your drivers).

>>508933189 (OP)
What would be considered an ancient computer? Asking this on a rog from 2012 or so.

if your interaction with computer is a browser and some primitive office documents then definitely install lunix
if you're employed or useful in any way, then keep using other OS

>>508934001
Fucking keks and well played, memeflaggot

Windows for games, Linux for laptops

>>508933189 (OP)
nah. music production software on linux is all dogshit. and wine doesnt emulate it well enough. too much latency
i dual booted for the last decade. got tired of waiting for proper shit

>>508935610
everyone ITT has no fuckin idea
>>508935077
see

>>508935915
Yeah they are doing it at the hardware level now. Apple succeeded in doing it for their hardware already. They basically track everything you do inside of applications... and then bundle up the data and post it to some apple cloud server. Apple products are kinda fucked. They can basically brick your entire machine if they wanted to. With a click of a button. Its dependent on their global email identifier. Which if gets hacked then your machine is bricked. Its pretty crazy.

>>508936005
This. It sucks, but it’s true.

>>508935915
debian has had dozens of crirical vulns that went unchecked like the multiyear fake random number generator that produced deterministic junk.

>>508933189 (OP)
I'm open to it, but how does it save me time? Windows is convenient to the point where, barring system configuration bullshit that i almost never have any reason to do, I've never had to do anything beyond downloading and then running any program i want. How does Linux improve on that? To make up for the added difficulty of having to reconfigure everything for it?

if you niggers would spend 1/10th of the time you spend gooning to twinks on learning unix command line, you would be unstoppable. things the average retard has to search, shop, and "buy an app" for (+30% to globohomo), you can do in a minute or two with a bash one-liner. and it scales! while windows, mac, & phone fags are going click-click-click for every item, you just add another pipe, and process a million more.

>>508936301
>its open source
>you can literally check the code yourself
>thats why its so safe
multiple vulns in common software across all distros were around for decades lmao
none of the trannies know how to check shit

>>508933189 (OP)
This.
Using linux is like fighting against jews in a digital space.

>>508934649
No drivers for what?
GPUs? WiFi cards? I don't get what kind of weird hardware you'd have to be running on to experience these problems. Every time I installed Mint or Ubuntu, everything just worked out of the box. I don't play video games, but it recognized my Nvidia GPU and automatically installed drivers for it

>>508933189 (OP)
As soon as my money arrives so I can fucking build my pc anon

>>508933189 (OP)
It's Manjaro for me

>>508933433
Show me one thing wrong with systemd.

>>508934649
get this, when you install a distro, the fonts are fuzzy and blurry and fucked you need to spend ten hours trying to fight with fonts. FONTS.
the solution is to download a bunch of microsoft fonts, because it just works. So to get them, they ask you to insert your microsoft windows CD. (yes i know you can get them elsewhere, but thats what they ask)

If you use Linux, your time has no value. (i'm a 30 yr linux veteran, but I fucking hate it....)

>>508936449
>PID1 should be small and simple

>>508934995
>Linux is a type of operating system where learning is required to use it.
But it isn't though. I thought it was, and was willing to make that sacrifice, but I never had any issues at all. I'm like a low-mid level programmer and I thought I would have to learn a bunch of new stuff to make things work, but instead it either made no difference or made things easier.

>>508935966
On my Thinkpad X230 from 2013 I run Mate, it would probably run Cinnamon fine, but I prefer to keep it lightweight. For you I'd say both will work but it depends on your priorities.

>>508936512
>On my Thinkpad X230 from 2013 I run Mate, it would probably run Cinnamon fine
run xfeces you goat rooting faggot

>>508933189 (OP)
OP, I don’t even know how to use this iPad. Please make this thread again, after my skills increase.

>>508933189 (OP)
any nixos chads around?

lunix is incredibly useful as a baseline computer experience to keep other OS on their toes, but it's still a router config-based OS
if high emotional normalfaggots like pewdiepie have enough drive to push through the awfulness, it doesn't mean normal people, especially tech-illiterate zoomer faggots, can do the same

>>508934001
I don’t understand how you can fit all,those cocks in your mouth anon. There’s faggotry, and then there’s you. My estimation is fifteen. Cubic footmeters of penor. That’s impressive.

>>508936368
Huh? What are you TALKING about? what the fuck are people downloading an app for that you can do on command line? I have a literal degree in this shit, took 3 fucking 6-month courses on OS command line shit, and the only things I've EVER used it for are setting up servers, which you can't do in linux without additional apps, system commands, which you can do in raw windows, installing programs, which you only have to use command line for if you're not using windows, and database setup, which you can do in raw windows.

>>508936163
It is shit that you can't get many VSTs native to Linux, but what actually do you need? Reaper works great, and comes stock with pretty much all the processing plugins you could ever need. Vital is arguably better than Serum and works perfectly native on Linux. I haven't been too much into making music since I started using Linux, but I got it set up when I first switched over and it all seemed to work just the same.

>>508936654
Yeah its way too much to ask. They really should just make an OS that is just a web browser for those people. You can basically make apps in web browsers nowadays anyway.

>>508936694
>took 3 fucking 6-month courses on OS command line shit
oh, i thought i was speaking to white people

> t. computer engineer

>>508936510
Yes, PID1 is systemd and how it control its processes. it literally saves you and your computer.
What about it?

>>508936694
>what the fuck are people downloading an app for that you can do on command line
>>508936694
>have a literal degree in this shit, took 3 fucking 6-month courses on OS command line shit, and the only things I've EVER used it for are setting up servers, which you can't do in linux without additional apps, system commands, which you can do in raw windows,
nice trolling kike
as I'm an oldfag I grew up with DOS5 and DOS6.11 so i'm a command line expert

>>508936750
you cant be this retarded can you, go back to the unix philosophy
systemd is a complete takeover of the linux ecosystem by IBM

>>508936654
I could switch to Linux, I know how to do it, it'd take a couple days but i've set up linux on computers before, my question is just, why? What benefit does linux have over windows?
>you can customize your experience
meaning what?
>muh data privacy
They already have my data, and i use a proxy server and vpn on Windows anyway
>you can do more stuff
like what?
>you don't have to deal with windows bullshit
what bullshit? Give me any specific examples

>>508933189 (OP)
I would posit that Bazzite is the "new Mint"
being immutable makes it completely retard-proof, designed to be impossible to break unless you explicitly know how to, and muh gaymes all work right out of the box with virtually zero effort
it also has some of the best OOTB hardware support in a distro that I've seen, especially for brand new stuff
when deciding on a desktop environment, as always, KDE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the last turd I dropped > Gnome > Windows > OSX

>>508936487
I don't know what the fuck people are talking about when they say shit like this. I never had any issue with fonts. I just outright never had any issues. Was this something that happened 30 years ago?

>>508936539
Most people seemed to agree that they preferred Mate over Xfce, with minimal performance difference. I didn't even bother to look into why, I just tried it and it works well so I kept using it.

>>508936744
I am white

>>508936714
amp emulators

>>508936805
What trolling? I'm asking a genuine question? I want to understand more about the supposed benefits of linux to determine whether it would be worth the effort to switch, which right now i think it wouldn't be but my opinion could change.

>>508936855
I don't think you understand why systemd is popular or what it does. Systemd is what makes Linux usable for most people, why it is "hassle free" for normies. SystemD is the reason why OP made this thread.
And why MacOS and Windows are considered "hassle free" OSs for a long time. They had systemd like process managers in their operating system since forever.

No, you fuckin dorks.

>>508936176
>>508935077
Exactly. BSD is where Linux was 10 years ago, though it's still the same desktop environments so the cancer of Redhat is still there to some extent.

Install multiple programs on FAGMAN-OS
> download program installer 1
> double-click program installer 1
> eula, check, check, next, next, next
> wait
> wait
> OK
> done
> download program installer 2
> double-click program installer 2
> eula, check, check, next, next, next
> wait
> wait
> OK
> done
> download program installer 3
> double-click program installer 3
> eula, check, check, next, next, next
> wait
> wait
> OK
> done

Install multiple programs on *nix
> apt install -y program1 program2 program3

Run program on remote machines in FAGMAN-OS
> RDP into machine 1
> username, password, ok
> click some shit
> click some more shit
> close
> RDP into machine 2
> username, password, ok
> click some shit
> click some more shit
> close

Run program on remote machines in *nix
> for HOST in machine1 machine2; do
> ssh "$HOST" program
> done

Turn off cortana/copilot/defender on FAGMAN-OS
> FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

Turn off cortana/copilot/defender on *nix
> already taken care of

>>508936958
>What benefit does linux have over windows?
you will serve as a martyr for improving lunix UX if you complain enough on lunix bugtracker about how fucking awful the UX is
that's it
only zealots and people that actually get a mileage out of command line config configurability like hackers

>>508936958
>forced updates
>spend hours going through all the settings to get things how you like, then it changes them back
>bloatware you can not uninstall
>helpfully adding annoying widgets in various places which are cumbersome to turn off
>constant stupid messages telling you to do this and that
>office now stops you from working to play ads which can not be closed or skipped
The ads in office made me freak, what the fuckin hell man. I immediately installed Libre office on the computer at work after that happened. Obviously you don't need Linux to do that, but where does it end?

>>508937299
Run FAGMAN-NORTH program on FAGMAN-SOUTH OS
> fuck you

Run FAGMAN-NORTH programs on Linux
> Wine

Run FAGMAN-SOUTH programs on Linux
> Darling

>>508937004
did you
>took 3 fucking 6-month courses on OS command line shit
and still not understand what it was good for?

>>508937299
install failed after 2 hours and the error message is hidden a literal 40000 line output (one of your permissions wasn't enabled for this instance)

>>508936999
>I don't know what the fuck people are talking about when they say shit like this. I never had any issue with fonts. I just outright never had any issues. Was this something that happened 30 years ago?
because fonts look like fucking dog shit on a clean install unless you spend hours fixing them
>>508937091
>I don't think you understand why systemd is popular
its not popular, its a complete takeover of the linux system by redhat and ibm

Red Hat Enterprise Linux is good.
Developer version is free and all you need.
Also has some GREAT security features wired in: SELinux, firewalls, auditd, openSCAP.
Traditional Linux permissions let you set which user/group can read/write/execute. SELinux fine grains it further by not only setting WHO has access to files & processes, but WHAT they’re allowed to do with them.
Eg the Apache web server system user could be allowed to serve content but not read configurations.
Do it. You won’t look back.

>>508937009
Oh yeah I never looked into that, I was using BIAS on windows, not sure if there is a good alternative. Typically there is, but with an ugly UI and less features. It's a shame that music production has been kind of neglected in Linux.

>>508937698
>SELinux
cia nonsense

>>508933189 (OP)
I do want to switch to Linux, don't have a computer extra to learn how to use Linux on

>>508937736
You don't have to learn anything, that's the point of this thread. You just install it and you can immediately use it the same as you would a windows computer.

>>508933189 (OP)
NO YOU CAN'T MAKE ME LEAVE WINSHIT BECAUSE MUH GAMES.
just kidding, I'm on linux since 2006, I play muh steam games and just laugh at winshit niggers.

>>508937704
Have you attempted to use android as a desktop os for the purpose you mentioned? I wonder how it compares.

>>508937704
i get really nice tone with amplitube. it takes a lot of tinkering though.

>>508937528
I listed the things it's good for. If there are more, I don't know them, please tell me, I'm genuinely asking, I'm not trying to be argumentative; i want to know.

In those courses I only ever did setup for the various linux and unix distributions themselves, set up servers, configured databases, downloaded a few programs, and configured the settings of the system itself. Everything else was done without the aid of command line.

>>508937576
hate to tell you this bro, but
> image name

>>508933189 (OP)
Can I play my steam vidya games on Linux?

Serious question.

>>508937656
>because fonts look like fucking dog shit on a clean install unless you spend hours fixing them
This is sadly true. What's sadder is that only jewbuntu has good font rendering ootb.

>>508937905
Isn't SteamOS based on Linux?

>>508937721
You don’t have to use it, you could also consider access control lists. Still shits on Windoze from a height of 10 miles. Also for the ‘Linux is too hard’ argument ChatGPT will just splurge all the commands you need. Those days of relying on obscure forums are over.

>>508937905
Most of them. Anti cheat wont work, though.

>>508937905
>>508937931
Yes. You can check if your favorite game's compatibility https://www.protondb.com/explore

>>508933189 (OP)
>>Linux is free if your time is worthless heh heh
>It literally saves you time, it is easier to deal with than Windows. It will not cost you any time if you run something simple like Mint, you only get into autistic shit with certain distros.
unironically yeah, windows configuration is so ass now that this argument against linux doesn't even hold any more

>>508933189 (OP)
sorry, I'm a goomer

>>508933189 (OP)
I keep circling back on linux now and again, and it always falls short. Its never quite there, there is always something thats broke or doesnt quite work how it should, or something you have to get around. For example linux mint installing the bootloader on a different drive, fan control, screen tearing, its just fucking retarded, and there is a long list. I tried pop os, and unironically it was actually one of the better distros, when they put the proper cosmic version out I'll have a look.

>>508937413
yeah i already use libreoffice microsoft office can suck me. The bloatware thing, i mean i do have a laptop the effectively bricked due to system bloat (C: drive is 100GB and system files alone take up 100% of that and can't be installed on another drive) so i guess i could try seitching there and see if that fixes it.

>>508933189 (OP)
I want to Jews to watch for now.

>>508937944
>>508937721
selinux is suppose to protect the admin. So if you don't want to use it you can shut it off. But all you gotta do is spend a couple days learning it and it can save you some headache. Especially if you are dealing with a lot of machines. If you are just talking about your home machine its probably just going to confuse you.

>>508937850
>the only things I've EVER used it for are setting up servers, which you can't do in linux without additional apps, system commands, which you can do in raw windows, installing programs, which you only have to use command line for if you're not using windows, and database setup, which you can do in raw windows.

i am not going to address these low-level IT-niggerings for a memeflag. show your true flag, and i will answer.

>>508937947
Doesn’t that mean I can’t play online?
Sorry idc I don’t even know what info or use Microsoft will even get out of me. I just play vidya and masturbate on the computer, everything else is ipad.

>>508937888
>single isolated anecdotal example
>clearly this means it will work in all cases
>even though my experience with it has been as described
that a distribution i don't know about?

>>508937944
>>508938135
selinux is a CIA made piece of spyware

>>508938147
You wont be able to play some of the most popular online games, no.

>>508938145
I already fucking showed the flag before. Are you gonna be helpful or are you gonna be an ass

>>508938168
do it all the time on many different unixes without a hitch
> debian apt
> alpine apk
> openbsd pkg_add
> osx brew

linux sux.

>>508933189 (OP)
>It literally saves you time, it is easier to deal with than Windows
I regularly reinstall linux since it's that easy. it usually takes me 30 min to install and aditional hour or so to download certain things (which is mostly just waiting so I use my laptop in the mean time). other than this you just copy/paste your home folder. done, reinstall complete.
I even have a 'linux install instructions' .txt file to simplify things even more

>>508938212
Then Linux is gay.
Enjoy your crypto or techno music or whatever Linux is for

>>508936343
Honestly, just install Ubuntu. After that you can install steam, vlc, and chrome. Then you're pretty much done. Getting used to the work flow of gnome is a little different but no different then like... a new cellphone launcher. My dad and mom uses Ubuntu without a problem and they are in their 70s. I have no idea what some of these people are going on about.
Then again, some people are pretty braindead and I forget that. They will unironically complain about Linux posting but will unironically use an android phone, steam deck, and chromeos like anything else.

>>508938341
I am on the same boat...

>>508938381
>ome of these people are going on about.
>fonts blurry and fucked
>plug in usb device doesnt work no drivers
>cant print anything because printer drivers dont exist
>get told never run things as root, literally nothing runs without root

>>508938303
How are you reinstalling your OS without losing all your settings for various programs? That is genuinely the main reason i don't want to switch: I have various IDEs and modded games and emulators and servers that i have set up in a very specific way that i did like 3 years ago and don't remember how i did it but do remember that it took me a while

>>508936607
Yeah but I'm gonna switch after many years of use. Stable? Yes. But I don't like that it builds another layer of complexity on top of everything.
The update rebuilds are also extremely dreaded when it starts to rebuild all my shit from scratch and throws a fuckton of errors in the process. Updating the system is usually an entire day's work. Doesn't make sense.

>>508938381
I have Ubuntu now. I have literally never, EVER even clicked on it after downloading and setting it up.

>>508938499
People who constantly reinstall OSes dont do anything worthwhile on their computer, or anything that requires time investment.

Install browser, play a few games, thats it. Worse, they think everybody is like that.

yeah based, I'm giving (You) a BUMP

>>508938218
big boys wrangle hundreds of servers, sometimes thousands. spin-up, spin-down, maybe for years, sometimes for less than an hour. click click click doesn't cut it. we need automation, consistency, inspect-ability. shit spewed all over the registry is no good. a text config that i can put in source control, diff, and go straight to a breaking change saves DAYS compared to the shit i've seen windows IT dorks do. there is also the issue of LICENSING. good luck turning your system into a profitable business when you've got to pay the microsoft jew for each CPU. source code is also huge. have a problem with proprietary shit? have fun begging the pajeets for a patch. have a problem with open-source unix programs? gcc, gdb, & source are already installed. i can attach to the process, go right to the line where it failed, and fix my own shit. my C source, shell scripts, & makefiles from 20 years ago still work. try that on FAGMAN-OS, and wait an hour for Xcode or Visual Studio to update, then spend the next week fixing all of the shit they broke just for fun.

>>508938381
I have to admit i dislike my android phone. I hate ios more.
Its like the 2000s phone market, but there is no nokia. Indefinite purgatory.
I still cant believe they ruined symbian.

>>508936958
> They already have my data
it’s about societal control. they need a data set to start with to employ changes but they also need data from feedback loops to evaluate the effects of the implemented measures and accordingly adjust them. so they constantly need your data, and you’re constantly providing it to all kinds of private enterprises which then are selling it to state actors

>>508938458
I never had a problem with fonts. USB devices work fine. They use the same printer protocol as Mac so it pretty much works with every printer. Who uses a printer anymore anyways? Lots of stuff runs without root and you get a prompt when you need to run things as root the same as windows?

All of your complaints about Linux are stuff that was relevant criticism back in like 2005. I think the printer thing really exposed you.

>>508938262
A real Russian will never say this.

>>508938711
https://furilabs.com/shop/flx1/

>>508938179
>spyware
no its not.

>>508938690
computer is simple. it's a desk calculator that can replay instructions. input, calculation, output. this shit was DONE with a capital D back in the 70s. the churn only exists because most of you are niggers who only see surface gloss. they slap a new theme on the UI, charge you $100 for it, you spend the next six months cleaning up the wreckage, and YOU ENJOY IT.

>>508938147
>>508938341
Yes, linux is not for kids. Stay with your ipad.

>>508938742
I started with red hat 5 on a magazine disc
when did you start using linux you dumb nigger
>>508938784
SELINUX was written by? you dont know you gay cunt

>>508933189 (OP)
Can I play the following games on Linux:
Counter strike source
Counter strike 2
Escape from tarkov
Endless legend 2 (when it comes out)
Project zomboid
Path of exile
?
Otherwise I'm not interested

>>508938827
I just said I was going to do that.

You know, no one else is angry at people for the systems and devices they use. It’s just you fags.

Something to ponder over.

>>508938381
>I have no idea what some of these people are going on about.
Bro it is so weird for me seeing some of the shit people say. I have only ever used Mint because it worked without hassle and I saw no reason to change, I understand other distros are more complicated but like just don't use them? If you can't use them then they aren't for you.

I had all sorts of hardware and software issues on windows, never on Linux. I think it's a big problem that 'Linux' is such a catch-all, so everything built on the kernel gets lumped in as being the same thing. OK so obviously a low functioning person or a tech-illiterate boomer shouldn't try to use Arch. Most of the stuff people complain about hasn't been a problem for 10 years. I can't tell who is a shill and who is a retard and who has legitimate but irrelevant grievances and who has legitimate grievances that I just didn't happen to come across.

Very confusing. All I can say from my experience is that if you can use a computer at all in any capacity, you can use Linux (Mint at least).

>>508938864
You can't play Tarkov co op but thats okay. We Linux community have no friends outside our mailing lists of bugs.

>>508938711
The Nokia was making a Linux smartphone os (the n900 and n9) to compete with android and was even more Linux then android was.
But then nokia hired a Microsoft employee as the new CEO who then abandoned the project and made the company buy a windows license to make Windows Phones. Nearly bankrupted the company, he was fired and went right back to Microsoft.
Fun times.

>>508936487
Windows fonts are the most horrible abomination that computers have seen. They're the worst fonts of all operating systems. Android, Mac, iPhone, Linux, and even old computers beat Windows fonts. They're that horrible and one of the main reasons not to use Windows. Clear Font or whatever it's called doesn't save Windows, fonts will look horrible no matter what you do.

>>508938218
https://github.com/NARKOZ/hacker-scripts

>>508939000
xxx: OK, so, our build engineer has left for another company. The dude was literally living inside the terminal. You know, that type of a guy who loves Vim, creates diagrams in Dot and writes wiki-posts in Markdown... If something - anything - requires more than 90 seconds of his time, he writes a script to automate that.

xxx: So we're sitting here, looking through his, uhm, "legacy"

xxx: You're gonna love this

xxx: smack-my-bitch-up.sh - sends a text message "late at work" to his wife (apparently). Automatically picks reasons from an array of strings, randomly. Runs inside a cron-job. The job fires if there are active SSH-sessions on the server after 9pm with his login.

xxx: kumar-asshole.sh - scans the inbox for emails from "Kumar" (a DBA at our clients). Looks for keywords like "help", "trouble", "sorry" etc. If keywords are found - the script SSHes into the clients server and rolls back the staging database to the latest backup. Then sends a reply "no worries mate, be careful next time".

xxx: hangover.sh - another cron-job that is set to specific dates. Sends automated emails like "not feeling well/gonna work from home" etc. Adds a random "reason" from another predefined array of strings. Fires if there are no interactive sessions on the server at 8:45am.

xxx: (and the oscar goes to) fuckingcoffee.sh - this one waits exactly 17 seconds (!), then opens an SSH session to our coffee-machine (we had no frikin idea the coffee machine is on the network, runs linux and has SSHD up and running) and sends some weird gibberish to it. Looks binary. Turns out this thing starts brewing a mid-sized half-caf latte and waits another 24 (!) seconds before pouring it into a cup. The timing is exactly how long it takes to walk to the machine from the dudes desk.

xxx: holy sh*t I'm keeping those

>>508938865
>I have no problem with being a slave of jews
>only you have a problem with 90% of the population enabling jews

That's correct.
You are part of the problem.

Why doesn't Linux just make one good desktop instead of 2,000 shitty desktops?

>>508938812
our brain is more efficient in handling visual and spatial input than verbal or, even worse, numerical. that’s why graphical ui is the natural way to go until we’ve managed linking our neuronal system directly to computer networks

I'm planning to sometime in the future but they're not controlling my windows 7.. I am and they've been seething for years about it already and programs implying they'll stop working (but hasn't) for years.
Still I'll make the transfer to nobara, I already have the stick ready for it. It's just all my settings and personal touches I'd have to set up again and the uncertainty how how well it'll go when I play daily and don't want to miss anything of it doesn't go flawless

>>508938690
So you use it for server configuration on a large scale, and software development? I don't have the creativity to ever come up with software so useful it could be business, but that's really cool that you do. Where do you find open source Unix projects to work on if i may ask? I've wanted to try and learn how to work with that stuff for years but never known where to even look for it.

>>508939062
RedHat well poisoning

>>508938943
If I switch to Linux do I have to wipe my hard drives and such?
I'm still using windows 10 and I've been thinking I have to change to Linux when security updates for it end. I'm also planning on a liberty phone with graphene os for my next cellphone so getting into the ecosystem sooner would prob be good

>>508939000
Fuck Kumar.

>>508938499
I did it so many times that I started to write instructions, these are mostly meant for program set ups like in your post
also note that setting up linux is insanely fast and simple (where in windows even setting up basic OS takes half a day). most of these settings are for specific programs and even this takes minimum amount of time due to written instructions

>>508939081
>our brain is more efficient in handling visual and spatial input
no shit
>graphical ui is the natural way to go
INPUT (click) -> CALCULATION -> OUTPUT (pixels)

>>508938952
Maemo? That was after they fucked symbian up, though. I have had the displeasure of using the last few symbian phones, and boy, they were a pile of crap.

I remember browsing the web (real web, not wap), while listening to mp3 (with a third party codec) with 1MB ram. Installing python, and image editing programs etc back in circa 2004.

Then they just decided to remove everything that made symbian good, for some reason.

>>508938836
You were buying magazines in 2008?
Either way, it seems like you haven't used Linux since 2008 as all your criticism are over 15 years old.

>>508938599
cope more microcock slave

>>508939045
>NOOOOO YIU CANT PLAY VIDEOGAMES WITH YOUR FRIENDS YOU HAVE TO USE LINUX LIKE MEEEE
I mean, I really don’t.
You don’t either.
It doesn’t have to be like this

>>508939126
Kind off. You don't technically but it's not recommended because Windows uses NTFS filesystem and it doesn't play that well with Linux permissions. My recommendation is to leave Windows as is, and install Linux in a separate disk or partition and with time you start deleting windows things. That's what I did. I don't have Windows anymore.

>>508939126
If you want to try Linux, the easiest is to use a virtual machine. If you have windows 10 pro you have HyperV to host. Virtualbox is free software to host one too. You just download .iso file of your distro you want to experience. Then tell the virtualization tool the location of the .iso and allocate space. 4GB ram and 10 GB disk space should be enough for try

>>508939092
> So you use it for server configuration on a large scale, and software development?
i use it to call people 'nigger' on a large scale. configuration & development are just a 'bonus'.

>I don't have the creativity to ever come up with software so useful it could be business, but that's really cool that you do.
necessity is the mother of invention. we all have necessities.

>Where do you find open source Unix projects to work on if i may ask?
only jannies work for free. i scratch my own itches. if that scratch is a competitive advantage, i keep it. if it isn't, i put it on github.

>I've wanted to try and learn how to work with that stuff for years but never known where to even look for it.
programming languages can fit on a notecard. the machine is a calculator. the better you are at modeling things mathematically (algebra, calculus, physics, astronomy, etc), the more beautifully you can make it 'sing'.

>>508936968
>being immutable makes it completely retard-proof
Not at all.
Flatpak is notorious for access issues.

>>508939175
a trannie with no social life has to program the pixels first though you fucking imbecile. it is about automation, just like farming and industry were a century ago. still, the first ones have to conceptualise and realise such automation processes though. but once we, the hive, have them we don’t need continue with masochistic waste of time and resources just to boost your fragile ego

>>508933189 (OP)
I’ve used Linux exclusively for like 15 years now

>>508937656
I have no idea what you're talking about.

>>508939126
if you want to just try it out, install a dual-boot
so you have both windows and linux installed and you chose one or the other when you start up pc.
this is the optimal solution if you don't know if you want to switch or not. for first couple of weeks it should be enough for you to make up your mind. then just wipe the whole disc and install what you want

>>508939155
indeed

>>508939264
You put your selfish pleasure before common good and freedom of the people.
You are weak and corrupt.
You are part of the problem.
Simple as.

>>508939389
> autistic kraut screeching noises over not comprehending the original statement.

>>508939126
You can dual boot, but I don't recommend doing that.
SDDs are affordable nowadays, just get 512 GB or 1 TB one and throw a popular Linux distro on it.

>>508939172
How is setting up Windows taking you half a day? You literally
>plug in usb stick with windows on it
>click skip
>click skip
>click skip
>click skip
>wait maybe 15 minutes for the download
>install wifi driver

And that's it. Whereas when i did linux installation, AFTER tracking down the distribution i wanted, i had to follow a literal 16 step process to get my profile, my permissions, there were like 3 different multi-hour installs i dont remember what they were but the shit didnt work without em

>>508939189
>You were buying magazines in 2008?
are you retarded for any reason?
Red Hat 5 came out in 1997, it came with many computer magazines on the cover.
kill yourself.

>>508939034
Based

>>508939430
Explain to me how my playing videogames hurts you
>you can’t
>you won’t
>you are seething as you read this

>>508939568
If you are used to certain settings, configuring take a lot of time, and unlike linux you cant automate most of those things, unlike linux.

>>508939568
>memeflag
>post of lies
checks out

>>508939568
>had to follow a literal 16 step process to get my profile
that sounds like you chose one of the tranny distributions like arch or nix. try debian or one of its derivatives like mint or ubuntu.

>>508939411
selinux was made by the CIA and NSA
if its fonts, if you only use ubuntu youve never experienced it. install any other distro you nigger faggot

>>508933189 (OP)
>You do not own your computer, Bill Gates does. He decides what you can do with it, he knows everything you do on it.
Just give me two or three actual reasons why I should switch, instead of the usual schizo babble.
I tried Mint for about two hours. I stopped the first time I had to interact with "the console". It's not fucking 1990 anymore. I plan on switching to Linux but so far it's rather annoying than beneficial. My main question is - how would I (or any other user) benefit really? What's my threat assessment? My main concerns are as follows:
>some "hacktivist" tranny hacks 4chan and manages to leak all my posts along with my real name to people who know me in real life
Linux cannot protect me against this in any way.
>I unknowingly write something that activates the wrongthink department and I get jailtime and/or my whole life turned over because of a single ironic internet post
Linux cannot protect me against this in any way.

So how exactly is Linux beneficial to the average user like me? I already get the most obvious benefits, like no need for an anti virus software and the endless customization options. But so far, that's about it.

>>508933189 (OP)
I use Linux and no. It does not prevent your information from getting out. Your internet provider can easily access your entire internet activity if they want to. Your online footprint is more powerful than what you save to your hard-drive. Its not 2008 anymore. Most computers are of no value if users cant access the internet.

>>508939733
I do mostly use Ubuntu derivatives but not Ubuntu.
But I don't remember any issues when I messed with arch either, and that was a decade ago.

>>508939351
algebra and physics are fucking easy as shit, and calculus is only hard when it's unclear what formula you have to use, which doesn't even apply if you're automating shit. Actual programming and logic is maybe 5% of this shit. And it's the most fun 5%, easily. But 95% is just locating, installing and configuring various programs, or god forbid doing the creative work of designing the architecture, a technically extremely easy task but one which requires a lot of busywork that cannot be automated

>>508938836
Bill McCarthy NSA. Anyways I didn't deny it came from glowniggers or whatever. I just said it wasn't spyware. I know this because I am the best linux admin that has ever lived. It doesn't make outbound connections or "collect data" or anything like that. You configure it and it runs in memory.

>>508939707
Your mentality is the problem. You are ready to submit your freedom to jews for some dopamine hits.
You are just like a drug addict.
You as in individual is not a problem.
There are literally billions of people like you who are ready to give up their freedom to some jews for few convenience because they are too lazy to fix things.
You and people like them enable jews to exploit us more. You give them power.
Therefore people like you are a problem.

>>508939760
You can tweak your desktop and customize more features. Everything's in scripts so you can configure your operating system too. Advanced people can recompile their Linux kernel and switch it up too but ultimately, unless you're a programmer, Linux us useless to switch to.

>>508939727
Jesus fucking God I can't have the funny pirate flag

>>508933189 (OP)
Anons, OP is right. Windows was great, but now bad things are happening. It's time escape before it's too late.

> I want to play games
You can play most games with Steam or by installing it via a Wine wrapper.

> I need to write Word documents
Libre Office does that.

> But I have some specialized software that only works on Windows and doesn't work on Wine and I can't use alternatives for work reasons
In this case, do the following:
> buy a second cheap computer and run Linux on that
> run your life securely on the Linux computer: all browsing, email, porn, youtube
> do minimal professional stuff on the Windows computer
> preferably unplug the Windows computer from the Internet so Microsoft doesn't get your telemetry

>>508939284
>>508939298
So would I need to move all my files to an external and then move them to the Linus distro?
>>508939541
>SDDs are affordable nowadays, just get 512 GB or 1 TB one and throw a popular Linux distro on it.
Is that different than dual boot?

>>508939877
Autists are relentless today, eh?
>BTW im Canadian

>>508939878
She's nice, i watch her videos fellow indian

>>508933189 (OP)
I switched to linux mint from windows. Highly recommend! I've tried ubuntu and debian before but both fucking sucked and i wanted to kms.
Linux Mint is very windows-like, frens, but only in a good way. You can game with proton / steam easily, only a few competitive shooters need some extra work. Cracking also works easily, fyi.

>>508937576
>>508937888
you will never be white

>>508939823
>95% is just locating, installing and configuring various programs
maybe in FAGMAN-OS. in linux i have a compiler, several interpreters, & man pages for all of them. internet goes out, i can keep working. can't find what you need? write it yourself. if your higher math and literacy are on-point, you can figure it out.

>>508939878
Games are for children. Quit before its too late. Don't waste your youthful years.

>>508938864
I think Tarkov multiplayer is broken because of anti-cheat (common issue).
The rest should work out of the box.
Check protondb.com for gold or platinum rating.

Oh I guess you can't play faceit on Linux so I would have to keep windows somewhere which would eventually mean windows 11. How can you totally isolate windows from a dual os setup? Would I have to physically unplug hard drives when I want to change between them?

>>508933189 (OP)
make me faggot

>>508939963
shut the fuck up, kike.

>>508939886
Keep your personal files on a secondary physical disk from now on.
It makes upgrading/switching/reinstalling OSes easy.

I think this is what he meant.

>>508938927
So, Mint, Ubuntu and Fedora are all pretty easy along with their variants. You don't start getting into more challenging areas until you use something like bezzite (since you have to pick your file system any such) and Debian (because of the whole non-free not default stuff)
But my guess is that this one guys criticism is so dated that he's working off of like "how to troll Linux users" thing he found online and is just repeating what he read there.

>>508939188
Maemo / meego was only released for 2 phones before they made windows phone the default. It ran python. It was just Linux for arm so it could run anything that Linux for arm ran.
I dunno what was going on with symbian as I wasn't using symbian at that time. I just used one of those cheap BREW phones. Although even BREW had opera and mp3 capabilities even though it was just a Java vm.

>>508933189 (OP)
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

>>508939955
don't be rama rama

>>508939992
You shut the fuck up, Nazi.

>>508939494
:)

>>508939886
When people say dual boot they mean installing both OS on the same drive and selecting via bootloader.
You could "dual boot" at the bios level by connecting both drives and setting the bios to default to your primary OS drive.

>>508940038
SHUT THE FUCK UP, KIKE.

>>508938864
>>508939126
There's certain stuff that just doesn't work that well on Linux. I'm a computer autist and programmer and I greatly prefer Linux overall. To get around my inability to run certain programs I was accustomed to, I set up GPU passthrough on Linux, so that I can boot up a Windows virtual machine that gets a whole monitor and dedicated GPU to itself.
It runs exactly like native Windows, but it's actually just being emulated inside of Linux. I've run everything in there. I don't play games that often, but stuff I've run in it ranges from Photoshop to Steam to Fortnite to TF2 to Project Zomboid etc. everything works exactly the same as it does on native windows. I really like this setup and don't think I can ever go back now. The downside to this approach is that it requires strong hardware. You need lots of RAM and a dedicated GPU for your Windows. But that's not a problem for me.
Honestly, I get why people who aren't autistic about computers just really don't want to bother with any of this stuff. There's a learning curve and it's not ever going to be as normie-friendly as Windows or MacOS. But I prefer the setup I have now over the basic bitch Windows setup I had before.
>>508939568
Your profile? Your permissions? I don't even know what you're referring to.

>>508940059
YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU WEAK NAZI.

>>508939728
ubuntu is fucking easy as shit, but also, is that even real linux? It doesn't have like a ui or anything

>>508939981
People will recommend dualboot, but that sucks because windows tends to override and fuck with the linux boot.
What you need to do is install a bootloader to BOTH drives (disconnecting the hard drives helps with this but is not necessary) and then you can switch between the two bootloaders in BIOS boot priority settings.

This is the only way you can keep windows from fucking with the bootloader.

>>508937576
Well if your computer is not turning on now because of corrupted os, i would recommend removing the batteries, ram, hardisk and keeping it like that for 90 minutes, there's a smaller battery under the main battery removing this will also reset everything but might not be necessary. Common symptom might be monitor and fan not turning on, for laptop that is.

>>508939852
Holy shit you fucking nigger I just want to play some videogames, you aren’t doing fuck all to improve anything you are just seething because you can’t play videogames.

Absolute fucking schizo. Enjoy your OS.

>>508939886
You can't partition a disk for both. Linux breaks the boot and windows repairs it. And then there is no boot to Linux. If you have separate disk for both you can just choose the booting disk.

>>508939687
Red hat didn't even exist until 1993. Red hat 5 didn't come out until 2007.

>>508939868
>You can tweak your desktop and customize more features.
As I wrote, I am well aware about the customization features. That's a weak reason to switch.
>Everything's in scripts so you can configure your operating system too.
When I buy a car (or get one for free), I don't want to have to connect a laptop first and start unscrewing electronics in order to reconfigure the ECU for hours, before it's ready to drive. Windows just works.

Communities that rely on the unpaid labor of autistic nerds are always taken over by troons. Jews are the only people in the world who won't leave you alone.

>>508940144
You know I'm right. Your conscience won't let you sleep tonight. :^)

>>508939823
>i'm an engineer
>pip install easy-math web-framework

>>508940144
But you CAN game on linux, anon. Wtf is your problem. Proton can run 99% of games

>>508933189 (OP)

HOW TO GET HELP IN THE LINUX TERMINAL

> 1. -h or --help -> built in help
> 2. man -> manual page
> 3. help -> help for built-in commands
> 4. info -> like man page but more detailed

>>508940161
>>508940057
I have two nvme drives, so I can just have one drive partitioned with Linux and one partitioned with windows? And then how do I select which I want to use at a given time?

>>508933189 (OP)
>Not running cracked LTSB instead
ngmi.

>>508939878
>Windows was great, but now bad things are happening. It's time escape before it's too late.
What bad things are happening with windows? I'm already on linux, just interested in knowing.

>>508940078
An alternative would be to run Windows in the cloud for photoshop.
With a cost per-minute service, it can be fairly cheap for occasional use but it may take some effort to set up.
If you need it a few hours a day, that won't be a good solution, though.

>>508940080
SHUT THE FUCK UP, KIKE.

>>508940210
No, you are a fucking schizo. I said I didn’t want to use Linux because I couldn’t play games and you start with your high and mighty shit.

You got called out and went
>uh er it’s not so much you causing a problem by not using Linux, it’s everyone not using Linux that is the problem

You sound like a damn commie. I bet you are vaccinated.

>>508939822
>i use ubuntu so i dont have problems
lmao nigger i just told you why

>>508940017
Nah, i was talking about symbian much earlier than brew. The expandability of those were mind blowing. Might even surpass androids, now.
I cant install a codec on an android, but you could on symbian.
Hell, i cant even change my net.hostname on a goddamn android!

>>508940080
memeflaggots are subhuman.

>>508940162
american education system on display again
RED HAT ENTERPRIZE LINUX is not RED HAT LINUX
if you're trying to be smart, try not opening your fat fucking retard mouth

>>508940221
We’ve been over this like 6 times in this thread already, what the fuck is wrong with you cultists?
>hurr you can totally play your games
Cool so I can go play online?
>oh well no you can’t do that
THEN I CANT PLAY ALL MY GAME SSHIT FOR BRAINS.

serious fucking cult shit. Why are you so obsessed with making me download Linux to the point you’ll just lie?

>>508940279
Linux is literally not a problem here. Problem is your game company not supporting Linux.
Linux can't do shit to run your game if your game company restrict its games to run on it, retard.

>>508936449
>Show me one thing wrong with cancer

>>508940227
You would use your motherboard's boot drive selector on startup.
Usually involves holding down F9, F10, or F11 when you turn on your conputer.computer.
I definitely recommend doing it that way over installing to the same drive.

>>508940078
>Your profile? Your permissions? I don't even know what you're referring to.
Do you not? You start in root, create a new user, then you finish the install, log in as that user, and then for everything you install/create you have to either sudo in which just uses root to get full r/w/x access by default, or you have to give that user the specific r/w/x permissions necessary to access the file. Some programs don't require this but, well, all of those that i ever saw work on windows anyway so ehy would i use linux for them

>>508940357
AND THERE IT IS
STUPID FUCKING NIGGER SEEEEEEETHING BECAUSE HE CANT PLAY GAMES

You should be fucking ashamed of yourself.

>>508940342
You Nazis are subhuman.

>>508940239
> full on spyware telemetry since Windows 10
> spend 2 hours configuring Windows 10 to be secure
> all privacy settings secretly undone in next update
> Forced to upgrade to Windows 11 in late 2025
> Windows 11 == AI spyware
> Forced to login to Microsoft network so they can link your OS to your browsing activity
I haven't used Windows in 10 years, but this is the QRD

>>508940106
they all do the same shit. there's nothing i can do in unix that i can't theoretically do in FAGMAN-OS, and there's nothing i can do in FAGMAN-OS that i can't theoretically do in unix. difference is that BSD & linux give you source code & total control, while FAGMAN-OS puts you on the plantation.
> can't turn this part off
> no longer allowed to install that program
> add another 30% in appstore fees for adding zero value
> randomly break shit to keep your niggers from getting too uppity
anybody who wants to stay on the plantation as a matter of convenience is, BY DEFINITION, a nigger. a gay nigger.

>>508940162
DIE

>>508940406
All games I play run on Linux just fine. Literally not my problem.

>>508940347
Which games do you want to play specifically?
I play Helldivers 2 and Holdfast, both are online games, with no issues. Neither are officially supporting linux, i use steam's proton.

Tried on year ago.
>needed to recover data
>installed program to recover data
>recovered data is owned by root, cannot rename or delete
>try to give myself higher credentials than root
>fuck up drivers somehow
>upon restart computer no longer has access to wifi
>install windows
Thankfully the data could be copied, so i lost nothing but time to that shitty os.

>>508940163
Like I said if you're just a YouTube, Microsoft Word person just use windows as it is.

>>508940367
Also: I don't know if NVME is different in this regard.
My only experience is with SATA.

>>508940305
>...much earlier than brew...

My bad, i didnt realize brew started in ~2001

>>508940357
They get more money partnering with companies that are rich. So obviously if they tell you "don't make it work on linux" you are going to listen to them. Its really about the graphics libraries. If the linux community really wanted to be competitive with Microsoft and Apple( dogshit for games, but they still work ) they would have made the best graphics library. But they weren't getting paid....

>>508940441
>all the games I play (on Linux) run on Linux
No shit, you 50 IQ subhuman. You don’t have a fucking choice.

REMINDER:
> You put your selfish pleasure before common good and freedom of the people.
This is what your retard schizo ass said in response to why me playing videogames is bad
Meanwhile your schizo retard ass plays videogames too.

>>508940415
Ubuntu isn't FOSS anymore. They're replacing GNU Coreutils with MIT licensed work-a-likes written in Rust.
Instead of Ubuntu, use Mint.

>>508940305
Ah, no idea. I do remember that the company was suffering because for some bizarro reason they avoided the American market after nearly dominating it entirely with the Nokia 3310.

>>508940271
YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU WEAK NAZI.

>>508940450
I want to be able to play every single game on my list and every game I want to buy in the future.

I don’t give a shit about anything else, if your OS can’t promise me that it can fuck off.

>>508940441
I got GTA5 to install in Linux.
Fitgirl and GOG are your friends.

>>508940415
What program are you not being allowed to install? I have never EVER had that come up on windows, nor paid for fuckin anything. They tried charging for Office and i just used libreoffice, aside from that i, is there an app store on windows? what would such a thing even be used for?

>>508940421
Lol, u mad?

>>508940347
>Cool so I can go play online?
>oh well no you can’t do that
I play online all the time.
Some companies just don't bother to add support.
You have to check current compatibility and then decide what you're willing to give up, if anything.

>>508940512
Only game i encountered that had issues running on linux out of the box was Rainbow Six Siege. And i'm pretty sure i could get it work with some tinkering

>>508940392
Yeah, I get what you're talking about there, but I can't think of the last time I've actually used the command line except to go out of my way to do something that a normie user would never do. Really I don't care if other people use Linux or not. It's for people who are willing to sacrifice convenience for more customization options, more control over your system, more privacy. If none of that interests you, then just don't bother.

>>508940580
No, we can't promise you that, manchild.
Continue to let Microshit screenshot your daily activities because of 1 or 2 games you can't play for the time being.

>>508939034
Ineffably based. I presume this guy earns megabucks.

>>508933189 (OP)
Thanks bud, you truly had my best interests in mind
And I still didnt listen

>>508940674
He's a lost cause. Complete coombrain. Subhuman junkie tier

>>508940458
Totally get it. I'm I tried to run Linux and it used to be a real hassle, and I failed a few times. But I eventually took the plunge, and learned a lot, so I can manage problems like you describe.
I strongly advise you to try again. Get a cheap, used $200 computer and install Linux on it and migrate some of your low-risk workflow onto it, like watching YT videos. Keep trying until you start to get it.
Linux is a skillset that is only going to increase in value and importance as the police state tightens its screws.
Good luck!

>>508940588
You can install GTA5 directly from Steam. Only their "multiplayer" won't work on linux because JewStar made it so. Not the fault of Linux.
Also see >>508937990 Most games just run on Linux through Steam regardless of their source, pirated or otherwise.

>>508940605
just proving you to be a complete dumb cunt which is common from your country
you think you know, so you tell the world, but you dont actually know jackshit...... keep your fucking mouth shut

>>508940674
>my daily activities
You mean fucking videogames?
What part of this aren’t you getting?
>I use my computer for videogames
This may be weird for you because you are jerking off to kiddie porn and need to hide that, but I don’t care if the government gets a sweet shot of me being rad in a videogame.

>>508940590
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/10/expanded-windows-11-app-store-comes-to-windows-10-soon-available-to-testers-now/

apple has been uninstalling apps they don't like for a long time. microsoft hasn't gotten there... yet.

>mfw osx is actually preferable to windows at this point
Wew lad

>>508940608
Those companies wouldn’t happen to be the ones making the most popular online games for the past 20 years, would they?
>>508940630
>pretty sure
>some tinkering
Or I just keep playing and don’t set up hurdles for myself?

>>508940829
>microsoft hasn't gotten there... yet.
they remove games from my console all the time

>>508940888
tell us more.

>>508940473
>if you're just a YouTube, Microsoft Word person just use windows as it is.
Respectfully disagree.
Everyone needs to migrate off Windows. Every Windows user is a reason for someone else to remain on Windows. Every Linux user is a resource for others to migrate off Windows.

Linux can do YouTube and MS Word, so there's no reason not to migrate.
For anyone uncomfortable with technical details, run MINT as OP suggests. It's the Windows of Linux and will serve you well as you acclimatize yourself to a new environment.

>>508940512
Yes. What's the problem here exactly? I will never use Windows. I will never play games that don't support or run on Linux.
Meanwhile you on the other hand sacrifice your freedom and privacy for some games by using Windows.
You are weak and corrupt.
You are part of the problem.

>>508940674
>>508940580
>>508940512
>>508940450
>>508940441

I find this games argument strange. After all, windows games ironically are not very compatible with windows. If I want to run something like fallout 3 or new Vegas on windows I gave to tinker quite a lot to get it working and some games won't work at all. Since steam on Linux runs a compatibility layer to run windows games. All those old games work with basically no tinkering. We live in a bizarre world now that overall Linux can run more games then Windows because windows refuses to be compatible with itself.

>>508940882
I get your point, but you are also a coombrain headonist and this will bite you in the ass long term.
There are other things one should optimize for than immediate pleasure, comfort and leisure.

>>508940829
That’s bollocks
I’ve reinstalled pkg s from 15 years ago (like a particular image manipulation suite) and it still runs lime a treat
Maybe you’re just a shit cunt

>>508933189 (OP)
GuhNuu Soinux can't even get Photoshop right. Gimp is a piece of shit that still doesn't work for anything beyond basic bitch MSPaint tier editing. So until they have decent programs, nobody is switching to Cucnux.

>>508940940
not going to educate a fucking moron

>>508940512
Steam on Linux just works, with the exception of some games, mainly multiplayer with anti-cheat.
Other games can be installed via Wine wrappers, which is a little more technical, but well within the reach of the non-expert like me.

Maybe some games aren't available on Linux. So stop playing those games and play games that do work. Migrating to Linux is about maturity in the face of increasing risk from information technology. You will have to make some sacrifices.

However, that sacrifice isn't that great. Most games work on Linux these days.

>>508933189 (OP)
>If your computer in ancient choose Mate, otherwise choose Cinnamon
...Aaaaand you've just lost half the people here...

Pick XFCE, unless you feel like larping. From the UIs Mint and Ubuntu offer out of the box, it's closest to feeling like windows.
Or if you're coming from Apple, get Gnome.

>>508940983
Fair point. I've been trying to get 1999 phantom menace to run, maybe i should just try it through steam, good point, thx

>>508940532
all of it is being trannied-up at an alarming rate, but God provides. when mint becomes full blown AIDS, go to BSD. when that also becomes AIDS, a new hero will rise, and on it goes.

>>508940983
Some game companies make their games to not run on Linux by design, especially for anti-cheat reasons. It is their choice to do so.
And we should force them to change it. We can't. What we can do is not install Windows to play those games and support them.

>>508940882
> most popular games don't work
If it means that much to you, have a separate Windows machine you keep around for playing games.
Then do everything else on Linux.
Your privacy will thank you.

>>508940580
It's not his OS anon. Nor is it my OS, or anyone else's. It's your OS. Waiting for you to come home.

>>508940532
Based knower.
Anglojews are doing this since they know ubuntu is the entry point of new users to linux.

>>508941086
>And we shouldn't* force them to change it.

>>508940999
Give me those digits back you fucking idiot. Jesus wept. Gimp was always shit. Photoscape was so much easier to use. Face it. You’re just a fucking minda

>>508940825
It's fine, anon. You're not the type of person who should use Linux. People should make the switch because they're genuinely interested and want to try something different, not because they were bullied into it. I think over time, Linux will keep slowly growing as people become more tech-aware. There's no need to force it onto people.

>>508936402
Before I run "apt-get upgrade" I spend 6 months reading and reviewing all the changes. You guys don't?

>>508940649
> sacrifice convenience
Linux is very convenient once you get the hang of it. In many ways, it is more convenient. The terminal, if you take the time to learn it, is more efficient than GUI for some tasks. The GUI itself is as convenient as Windows, if not more so. Windows puts lots of junk in and takes a lot of functionality out. The Linux desktop is a good middle ground.
I think if you put in a month of casual Linux use and you'll find that it's as convenient as Windows.

>>508936487
>i'm a 30 yr linux veteran, but I fucking hate it
senility.

>>508941047
Yeah, XFCE is also the most stable, usable and the least resource hog DE. It just werks. It's lightweight, fast, but also looks decent and has an intuitive UI that doesn't throw too much or too little at you in weird places. It's like Windows XP but better.

>>508940962
Explain precisely what I am sacrificing and how the fuck it affects you, schizo.

>>508941236
Mint apparently is a It's a totally non political os, you just have to say free Palestine three times to get updates

>>508941236
>he doesn't read through the downloaded binaries manually to verify their contents
Ngmi

>>508940881
Apple is just another walled garden, and their privacy promises are buried under layers of exceptions and convenient excuses, like their plans for on-device scanning, but it is way better than Microsoft who views their customer base as cattle.
MacOS is also a good OS, based on BSD, and if you learn it you can migrate to Linux later.

>>508941236
A true Linux user just checks the patch log, then opens the source code of the program and writes in the new features and big fixes themselves. You wouldn't let someone else's code run on your computer surely?

>>508941279
The thing i like in linux is once i've figured smth out and have set it up, it just fucking WORKS. It doesn't break with thr next windows update, it just chugs along

>>508940954
I mean Jesus Christ:
> Linux can do YouTube and MS Word, so there's no reason not to migrate
What is this autistic retard cult shit?

>>508940983
What is this autistic retard cult shit?

>>508940995
What is this autistic retard cult shit?
What the fuck is optimized for me by switching to Linux and losing functionality?

You people are insane.

>>508941044
>so basically, just the games you want to play don’t work on Linux
>but it isn’t a big sacrifice
Okay, what the fuck is the point of that sacrifice?
>I lose games
>I gain ????

>>508941199
>I think over time, Linux will keep slowly growing as people become more tech-aware.
Being obsessed with "ricing" your linux PC isn't the same as being tech-aware. It's a hobby and there is nothing wrong with that.

>>508941111
>everything else on Linux
EXPLAIN. WHY.
WHY SHOULD I DO ANYTHING ON LINUX FFS?

>>508941138
I do not want to use it. It is not compatible with my PC usage, and that is more than a sufficient reason.

Please explain why you give a fuck?

>>508941392
>What the fuck is optimized for
Privacy, freedom, self-reliance. Things we've established you don't care about.

>>508941392
Listen brother, once you have used Linux you realize all the reasons not to were stupid. Some people forget about the before-time. You'll get there when you're ready.

>>508941199
At least you sound less insane but what the fuck is this cult vibe you weirdos have?

>>508941374
>Walled garden
lol no
No cmd ever grep ethererd me

>>508941302
theres nothing to enjoy about linux
if you use linux your time has no value

>>508940999
Photoshop is one of those apps that keeps people locked into Windows. Gimp is a pale imitator, that's true.

However, Adobe is getting worse and worse. I run Photoshop pirated, and the most recent versions don't come with filters! You have to access the network to get them. That's why I run an old copy of Photoshop 7.0 in Linux. It does everything I need it to do.

Speaking of content creation, you can replace Adobe Premiere and After Effects with Davinci Resolve, which works on Linux.

>>508941507
He is a consoomerist prostitute. It doesn't matter to him who pumps and dumps in him as long as he gets his little trinkets from his customers.

>>508941499
I can see you're hurting Anon. Microsoft did this to you. Just relax, you don't have to do anything you don't want to.

>>508941507
>buzzwords
>privacy
I don’t care if someone spies on my videogames
>freedom
I am less free to play my videogames on Linux
>self-reliance
This makes you sound like a cultist retard, what the fuck does that even mean? Bitch you probably can’t even change a tire.

What can this TOOL do for me that windows can not?
Because we have already established it cannot do literally the primary use of my computer.

>>508941509
>trust me bro, once you make your computer unable to do that one thing you want your computer to do you’ll love your computer

You people are insane.

>>508941071
BSD culture sucks
> BSD is great because large megacorporations squatted on our property, made billions of dollars, and gave nothing back to the community
There's a reason why the GPL exists, and why large powerful interests want to see it gone.
That being said, use what works for you.

>>508941595
So you can’t explain why you give a fuck, and you will respond to this post with a nonsequitur.

Am I getting this yet?

>>508941583
http://www.photoscape.org/ps/main/index.php

>>508941336
Ignore the flags and focus on the install. They can't take Linux away from you.

>>508941547
>your time has no value
yet somehow manage to support a family of four, with a stay-at-home wife, working well under 20 hours a week...

>he thinks hes gonna wake up the normies
let me rephrase the problem for you so you may properly comprehend what youre attempting: itd be like trying to convince people to quit using iphones, which suck, are worse in every conceivable way, but normies swear by them. its never gonna happen.

>>508941392
Linux does what you want, while Windows does a lot of stuff that should worry you, like spy on you and report you to the feds.
Being concerned about one's privacy is not "autistic retard cult shit".
But by all means enjoy getting reamed by AI spyware in every app, down to the foundations of your OS. I bet you're one of those
> I have nothing to hide
guys.
Anyone paying attention to the news can see we're headed for a period of severe political instability. Every protection you can build for yourself now will serve you well in the future.
Think of it like prepping.

>>508941858
I don't use os for political reasons, i use it to talk to a fucking computer and get my work done or get my fix, im not a slave to Ideology or coom to deranged stuff. Go fuck yourself

>>508941977
Hey fucktard, it’s already been established a dozen times in this thread Linux explicitly will NOT do what I want.

Again I ask, and this is not a rhetorical question I genuinely am burning to know:
What the FUCK is wrong with you cultists?

>>508941336
>>508941990
literally nobody believes youre indian moshe
all youre doing is slowing your speed and ping, and for what? so you can samefag "saar"?

>>508941429
> I lose games
Maybe, maybe not. It depends on which games you play. If it works on Steam, it probably works on Linux. And most games work on Steam.
> >I gain ????
You get improved privacy and control over your digital life in a time of political instability.

>>508941086
I mean, isn't the fact that Linux can't run zoomer chinese slot machines a feature?

>>508941669
> BSD culture sucks
sorry bro, i'm not a cultist. if i have posix, i can get shit done. if the trannies snuff the posix torch in one spot, a fellow chud will light a new one somewhere else. i don't know who, i don't know where, but i will know when the time comes. if it's GPL, great. if it's MIT, also great. FAGMAN has already sucked the meat off all of the bones, so it's a moot point.

>>508941468
> WHY SHOULD I DO ANYTHING ON LINUX FFS?
To gain privacy and control of your digital life.
I would never write something controversial on a Windows machine. Ever.

>>508941627
It's perfectly fine for you to continue to use Windows.
This is a thread guiding people who might benefit from Linux to take the plunge.

>>508941465
I've never been interested in ricing and that's not why I use Linux. I use Linux because it has better system-wide compatibility for things like Python, it's easier to self-host my shit on there (because a lot of the software is meant to run on Linux to begin with) and because I don't want Bill Gates spying on my asshole

>>508942118
Listen to me very fucking carefully:
>I can not play the games I want to play on Linux
Do you get that yet? Do you understand?
Okay part two:
>all I do on my computer is play games

Following me so far? Great, so now you understand that installing Linux makes my computer unusable, and I don’t give a shit if anyone knows im playing videogames.

I ask, YET AGAIN, because I desperately want a real fucking answer:
What the FUCK is wrong with you cultists?

>>508942125
We're on the same team, fighting from opposite sides.

>>508942173
I do not have a digital life. No one should
Fix yourself.

I tried linux the other day and the first 2 programs I wanted to use didn't work.

I have to update and install a gorillion settings.

Maybe if you want people to use Linux, you should creste an OS that just works. But every time people complain and tell you how things are, you blame the user instead of thinking "maybe we should improve the user experience"

>>508942241
Why do you give a shit? Explain now because you all sound like a bunch of commie cultists.

>>508942385
Cult shit.

>>508941990
Love the hostility.
That's why I use Qubes+Whonix, run all my networking through Tor, and post to 4chan via a proxy.
> but why u use linux?
I love the feeling of sitting in an f1 race car smiling and waving at the retards in the stands.

>>508942437
BASED Qubes anon

>>508938836
>>>508938742
>I started with red hat 5 on a magazine disc
>when did you start using linux you dumb nigger
>>>508938784
>SELINUX was written by? you dont know you gay cunt

Oh, god.
I definitely remember my first LINUX experience.
the free CD glued to the computer-shopper magazine
I remembr you had to answer hundreds of questions.
I was GUESSING at most of the answers, lol
took all weekend, but I learned to answer the questions, and get a boot.
I remember this, 3-d cube on the screen? It rotated, to take you to different desktops.
This was just entertainment, to play with it.
It was a different time. I also remember, they would have "it has to fit on a floppy disk" contests. Guys started sending in little operating systems, on a FLOPPY.
I couldn't help but download one, it was cute.
a bloody finger, was the mouse pointer.
it was like, ghetto win 3.11? from scratch, on a floppy.
it had, some little browser, though!
I used this floppy OS, to check PCs. If it booted and ran? No hardware issues, just wipe the hard drive and reinstall windoze.
Next? I experienced "puppy linux" and the concept of running "live".
If you get a version of Puppy linux your laptop "likes"?
its great to have around, for that day windows refuses to work... you can still get online that day.
I wasn't even dual booting? Literally just a CD I left in the CD player.
if it was just random internet browsing? Puppy, why not.
Now, this was all just novelty, or playing.
I thnk it was WIn 10? I just couldn;t take it any more.
Tried LINUX MINT...
never a reason to go back.
The FEW old programs I need to run? I just VM run an old windoze install for those couple applications.

>>508942546
See this guy I understand. He is a dork. I get him.

The rest of you fags are absolute nutjobs.

>>508942546
This is similar to my experience. Old school Linux was too hard for me. I remember spending a weekend just to get an audio driver working. Every time I hear that song, it brings me back.
Then I had to give up Win7 for technical reasons, and installed Ubuntu. Never looked back.
To anyone who may have struggled with Linux in the past, you may be surprised how streamlined it is these days.

>>508934001
Yeah, I know, I know but I'm just not gonna install and run Windblows Microdick 11 Ai Edition

>>508942427
Linux tards constantly masturbate about how ignorant people are and how easy it is to install a million distros and drives and command lines and whatever bullshit to use a Photoshop clone.

Then people tell them to fuck off and then they wonder why no one uses Linux. They are fucking retarded.

Imagine if you went to the supermarket and when you asked the wagie for the meat section, he laughed at you instead of... just answering.

Linux tards are subhumans that take pride into wasting hours and hours in Linux and learning useless stuff because they think knowing that stuff makes them superior to other people (because they can't compete in any other field, so they waste time into autistic topics). It's all about ego and cope and thinking they are better than everyone else, when in reality they are obese faggots that have nothing besides Linux, so they build their entire personality and ego around it.

Linux is free if your time has no value.

>>508941535
It's called autism and it runs deep in the Linux community

>>508942361
don't you have a muslim to get raped by?

>>508942685
Thank you anon, this sounds sensible and since I have yet to get any other answer, I accept it.

> Linux is free if your time has no value.
Nice

>>508942685
>because they think knowing that stuff makes them superior to other people
But I am superior to you. I'm running Qubes+Whonix.
> waste of time
Not if you're facing a global adversary, write on hot button political topics, or communicate with political activists.

>>508942804
I should start using Whonix to post on 4chan so that glowniggers can't tell which one of us is "that guy who uses Qubes-Whonix to post on 4chan"

>>508942685
>>508942791
>my time is so valuable i only have enough to do steam and powerpoints ON WINDOWS--like all the cool shut-ins

>>508939126
>If I switch to Linux do I have to wipe my hard drives and such?
You dont have to.
I always carry a USB thumb drive with me. It boots. If I ever go anywhere? I can stick my thumb drive in, boot and get online. On any machine. I can iterally take the hard drive PUOT of my laptop? This thumb USB drive, will boot and run the computer. For a browser person, with no softwre needs, beyond LIBRE Office?
it just works.
---------------------------
that said, a DUAL BOOT wher you assign your new linux a small section of hard drive to live?
dual booting lets you SEE things, notice them.
---linux by and large, doesn;t "sit and wait" very much. You click? Shit happens. Windoze gets... "mushy". Linux? Stays as crisp and quick as the day it was installed... ten years later.
--- startup times, shut down times
>
I never thought I'd switch full time to Linux Mint? But I did.

>>508942685
Linux is no harder to use then your phone. Really people don't use it because they can't figure out how to burn an iso to a USB drive even with instructions. Personally, I'm fine with your plebs being on windows because you'll just crap it all up like everything else you touch.

>>508934001
I obsessively shut down my windows setup, there are official Microsoft guides on that, not a single loose packet ever goes.
And besides I also pirate all my windows software so I can just do more on windows.

>>508939568
>And that's it. Whereas when i did linux installation, AFTER tracking down the distribution i wanted, i had to follow a literal 16 step process to get my profile, my permissions, there were like 3 different multi-hour installs i dont remember what they were but the shit didnt work without em
I had been through the dual boot days.
when I was serious about maybe switching?
no less than two differnt "guru" guys I trusted, both said MINT
MInt LIVE, was fine. Just, wait on a boot from thumb drive? OS works.
Installed it, wiping the hard drive.
thing vbooted to the exact same screen, as the LIVE thumb drive.
now, ten years later? same install, chugging along.

>>508943056
> Linux on USB
If anyone is interested, they can try Tails, which is a secure USB-based Linux OS offered by the Tor project.
> https://tails.net/
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tails_(operating_system)

>>508941319
>nigger cattle slave doesn’t know how he is a nigger cattle
Many such cases!
How many boosters did you take, slave?

i could give a shit which OS you use, but if you are a fellow CHUD, learn how to bash. you can do it on OSX. you can do it on Windows (WSL). you can do it on Linux. it's not hard to learn, and once you've mastered it, it's a superpower.

https://linuxjourney.com/lesson/the-shell

>>508934995
It's not that, it's the absence of software.

>>508943030
>use my valuable time to do what I like
Or
>use my valuable time trying to make on OS system work even though it can’t enable my computer to do what I like

Which scenario seems more like I value my time?

>>508943461
> don't waste my valuable time
> what I spend my valuable time on:
> ranting like a psycho about how Linux isn't for me
Great argument!

>>508943395
>waits hours
>still can’t come up with an answer
>resumes schizophrenia
Sad, but predictable.

>>508943399
>you can do it on Windows (WSL).
you can't really because to truly do it you have to turn out the virtualization layer, which means your windows is not always running on a hypervisor just like WSL does, this incurs exotic problems and higher DPC latency, ideally you want to sit on the metal

>>508943502
Couldn’t you be debugging or reinstalling right now?
You are deflecting and seething.

>>508943461
haven't been following your thread, and don't care which OS you use, but anyone who states
> Linux is free if your time has no value.
or bumps that statement, or whoop-whoops it like some studio audience nigger, is absolutely clueless. linux is better than free. linux is profit. i know so many people who made absolute bank off of it--who *still* make absolute bank off of it--including myself.

>>508943551
> reinstalling
Linux is reinstall once.
I had to reinstall a machine a year ago when I upgraded my hardware, but that's it.

But, yes, I do have 10 computers, each tailored for their purpose. So, no, I'm not the average computer user.

And, yes, talking to you is a waste of time. But I'm here for those curious about Linux.

>>508940078
>be me
>buddy buys new "gaming" PC. (hes not a gamer)
>buddy, spends over 600 dollars
>Me? What do.
>I buy, 600 dollar used workstation server.
>was 20,000 dollar computer, years ago
>Has dual CPUs, and 48 GIG of RAM
>I run dual big screen TV monitors, MINT, and can run old installs of windoze for the few things I want, in VM ware.
MINT stopped my dual-booting, distro-hopping, cold.

>>508943542
i could give less than a shit whether their bash learning sandbox is fully optimized.

>>508943522
This is for you.

>>508940111
>This is the only way you can keep windows from fucking with the bootloader.
Linux, mysteriously reads all windows (and other) file systems perfectly
WIndow, soehow cannot manage to read Lunux. Hmm.
windoes, is the probem.
and yes, windows will fight you tooth and nail,
to keep you from dual booting,
or bypassing windows built in these days.
again, windoze is the problem

>>508942791
>>508942804
>>508943030
>>508943213
>So many replies in a few minutes
I was right, it's all about ego. It's about making an "us vs them" with a field only an autist would waste time in.

Obviously you can't compete in real life, strength or money or something with real value, so you do sour grapes and pick a field no one cares about and judge people around that topic. Everything goes around that fragile masquerade.

You are not above other people for knowing Linux. They just don't want to waste a million hours with an OS because why would they? They have better things to do with their lives and they can just pick an OS that works and if they are worried about security, debloat it.

Debloating windows will always be a better option than using Linux. You will have less errors with a debloated windows than with a clean Linux.

>>508943777
checked
Windows is literally a malware.
Having said that Windows can't read Linux's file system such as EXT4 or BTRFS for example. Yes, it is the fault of pajeetsoft for not including those file system on their malware.
So technically you have to tweak jeetwaredows a bit in order to make it detect those linux partitions.

But then again it knowingly fucks up the bootloader because it is a malware as I said above.

>>508940411
>> full on spyware telemetry since Windows 10
>> spend 2 hours configuring Windows 10 to be secure
>> all privacy settings secretly undone in next update
>> Forced to upgrade to Windows 11 in late 2025
>> Windows 11 == AI spyware
>> Forced to login to Microsoft network so they can link your OS to your browsing activity
I think it was WIN10 that finaly chased me out the door.
Burglary, bought a new laptop.
came with windoze I think 10.
I'd set it NOT to update, without permission.
it would re-boot whenever th hell it felt like it
I lost shit, because of this bulshit.
After two weeks?
I ws a dedicated windows user, and I couldnt take it.
years of dual booting, and booting live linux...
gave me options.
I WIPED a brand mew two week old laptop hard drive?
ten years later, same MINT install just runs perfect.
try that with any windows OS setup.

>>508943917
You are a low IQ retard who can't even maintain Linux Mint. It says a lot about you than others.

>>508943615
> linux is better than free. linux is profit.
Holy shit shut up you you cultist fag

>>508943917
>I was right, it's all about ego.
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
Linux helps you improve your privacy and take control of your digital life.
Windows helps you be a consooomer.

>>508943631
> talking to you is a waste of time
Then stop replying you dumb faggot
>nb4 you reply anyways