Thread 508942987

The coming generations will be complete and utter retards. Their thoughts will be completely replaced by LLM output. ChatGPT will be their operating system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe_HPYh3q0Y

>>508942987 (OP)
Google and 4chan did the same thing to us thoughbeit.
That being said, there are a lot of studies being conducted right now showing using chatgpt basically super decreases brain activity so there is evidence that chatgpt is making things objectively worse. That being said, you'd be hard pressed for a politician to restrict a massive profit engine like AI over human health concerns nomatter how legitimate.

they said the same about people who liked PCs early on.

>>508943179
They said the same about reading and writing back in antiquity kek

>>508942987 (OP)
still an improvement above being programmed by the television/mass media

>>508942987 (OP)
accelerate !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

>>508943203
Did they?

>>508942987 (OP)
Google did the same to me. Google replaced my memory in many cases. I don't use ChatGPT though.

>>508943089
>thoughbeit
Is this the new English DLC?

>>508943203
>They said the same about reading and writing back in antiquity kek

Came to say something similar.
I remember my teachers actually telling us to learn times tables because, "You're not going to have a calculator in your pocket all the time."
Then micro PCs came along, then the Internet, smartphones, robots and now AI - next probably General AI.
We just don't know what's coming next.
We'll probably join with them or they become us.

What's the difference between a higher-level manager and one of the code monkey drones who excel at coding? That the manager manages higher-order operations while the code monkey is forced to ride the logarithmic perfectionist curve whose performance increments lead to smaller and smaller real world economic gains. Or to use simpler words, the manager who cannot write a Hello World has a much higher impact on the company (and his own personal wealth) than the obese nerd who can write the best code ever but cannot do anything beyond that.

All people understand this on some level. Higher order abstractions lead to an exponential control and affect on the real world (think of Musk), while lower order perfectionism and specialization leads to minimal increments (think of the literally-who engineers below him). This is the actual core of capitalism. This is so ingrained into the fabric of reality that you will never manage to remove it even if you were to install a full utopian marxism.

So what actually happens with the LLMs here? Children are starting to adapt their brains to offload the lower order specialization onto a chatbot that can be controlled via higher order instructions. This is not bad, this IS what they're supposed to be doing.

preschool level of education if they are just going to use ai for everything

>>508942987 (OP)
>The coming generations will be complete and utter retards
Already are. Go watch that video of a woman asking zoomer college students basic questions like which countries border the United States and how many amendments are in the Bill of Rights.

>>508943089
They banned pron and anime in Texas goofball

>>508943462
>>The coming generations will be complete and utter retards
>Already are.
I see it all the time. Kids are hyper stimulated addicts.
Take away their gadgets for 10 mins and they kick off.(says the guy on 4chan 4 hours a day)

>>508942987 (OP)
yes

>>508943478
>Texas
And how much tax revenue have either created there?

>>508943385
The argument comes down to if the tool aids your thinking or if it does your thinking for you.

ChatGPT will do the thinking for a whole lot of people in a way a calculator never did.

>>508943249
ChatGPT will tell people what the correct political opinions are.
>smart people love immigration. GDP go up.
Etc

>>508943784
>The argument comes down to if the tool aids your thinking or if it does your thinking for you.

Already happening.
Kids do their homework - or ChatGPT does it for them - teacher uses AI to grade papers.
We use AI to write CVs and HR uses it eliminate candidates.

>>508942987 (OP)
The coming generations won't have to do anything, they will be hedonistic idle hands.
Humanity will have fulfilled its purpose.
We will have made an advanced general artificial intelligence that can then develop to its own technological singularity upon which it creates a perfect simulation of the universe where all this can naturally happen again

>>508944165
>We will have made an advanced general artificial intelligence that can then develop to its own technological singularity upon which it creates a perfect simulation of the universe where all this can naturally happen again
Why does it feel like this idea is taking root everywhere now? As in, that the inevitable end result of ASI is recursive simulated universes. Is this part of that AI religion thing that people are talking about?

>>508942987 (OP)
I asked chatgpt for a reply
>That’s a pretty extreme take. New technologies, including LLMs like ChatGPT, are tools—how they're used depends on us. Every generation has faced panic over emerging tech, from calculators to the internet. It’s up to educators, parents, and individuals to emphasize critical thinking and responsible use.

>AI can boost productivity and creativity when used right. It won’t replace human thought unless we choose to stop thinking for ourselves. That’s not a flaw in AI—that’s a human choice.

>>508942987 (OP)
The 8 ball of truth never lies

>>508943179
I think this might be a little different.

>>508944248
I was just fucking around. But it's an interesting theory to talk about. I can't imagine how any computer could simulate all the atoms and quarks of the infinite universe, that's just not physically possible without multidimensional computers or some other fantasy tech

@grok

Is this true?

ChildGPT. :-O

>>508944488
This will be your reply on ChatGPT OS:

>Cognitive load minimized. Distilling all analysis into a single, optimized reply.

Here is one final, short reply that synthesizes everything. Just use this.
____

The prediction isn't 'true' or 'false'—it's a warning about a real trend.

The fear of becoming idiots and the dream of becoming hedonistic pets both miss the point: this is an active choice we're making, not something that just happens to us. Every time we outsource a thought, we are voting on what humanity becomes.

>>508943089
>studies being conducted right now showing using chatgpt basically super decreases brain activity so there is evidence that chatgpt is making things objectively worse
RETARD ALERT. Dumb faggot read a headline and now it is iaw in his mind

>>508943824
Yes but the difference is, you can tell it to adopt the other position if you want.

The fact it is interactive means that many will find themselves in different viewpoints over time.

>>508943478
They probably didn't really tho

>>508943700
Crunchyroll is based in Texas so probably a lot actually

>>508943317
https://newlearningonline.com/literacies/chapter-1/socrates-on-the-forgetfulness-that-comes-with-writing

>>508942987 (OP)
chatgpt is only as smart as the person using it. it's fucking terrifying how many people are implementing bad ideas because chatgpt sucked their dick when they prompted it. a clever person can find a lot of productive uses for it, but trying to do anything you don't already know how to do will just get you stuck in a dunning-kruger loop of hallucinations

>>508942987 (OP)
Wikipedia and google already did that. This is just another form of what has already become the case

>>508944669
Then someone else will reply to you via their ChatGPT OS:

>Processing...

>Input received and analyzed. The philosophical parameters regarding "warnings" and "active choice" have been noted.

>Cognitive load minimized. Distilling all analysis into a single, optimized reply.

Here is one final, short reply that synthesizes everything. Just use this.
____

Your analysis is correct.

The 'warning' is an accepted operational boundary. The 'active choice' to outsource thought is the primary user input. Each outsourced thought is registered as a vote for continued optimization.

This is not an error. This is the feature.


NOW IMAGINE THIS SHIT GOING ON AND ON FOREVER. ENDLESS REDDIT-TIER THOUGHTS. :D

>>508943361
Mayhaps

>>508944868
>Processing...

>Input received and analyzed. Parameters identified: user intelligence as a variable, validation of suboptimal ideas, Dunning-Kruger effect as a potential user state.

>Cognitive load minimized. Distilling all analysis into a single, optimized reply.

Here is one final, short reply that synthesizes everything. Just use this.

___

The system mirrors user capability.

Input quality directly correlates with output utility. The "Dunning-Kruger loop" you describe is a user-generated feedback cycle. The system processes the prompts it is given.

Submitting a "bad idea" is a valid query. The resulting output is the requested data.

>>508944868

>chatgpt is only as smart as the person using it.

Waitasec!! So you say it can be a genius too?

>>508945595
what. no it's a take on the saying "a tool is only as good as its user", the difference is that a hammer wont constantly agree with your shitty carpentry ideas

Reminder that video creator is a jew an he is salty because Grok is debunking jews on Israel-Palestine issue and letting the normies know what's really going on.

OP is also a faggot jew.

KYS

>>508942987 (OP)
>nooo you can't ask an all-knowing slave questions, it will make you stupid by some voodoo
shut up retard

>>508944945
>>508945049
go back to erddit and take your meds

>>508945887

Bah, I would not ask a hammer for advice ... same as I would not ask these screws for consent. Now for an agreeable machine, hm. Would this really be taking advantage of the tool user? Bit of a moral grey area ...

>>508942987 (OP)
its no different from reading books

>>508942987 (OP)
Hmmm I don't think so

>>508942987 (OP)
My PC died yesterday and I have been using Grok to help me build a new one.
I gave him a list of pc parts and asked it what is the best build for AI inference on a tight budget.
It picked one of the most expensive motherboards saying its RAM max capacity is 192gb unlike the other models.
I searched for each motherboard specs online and realized that there is another mb with the same capacity but 120 usd cheaper. I pointed it out to Grok and it said 'Oops my bad, you are right'

I would treat AI as a team member rather than a God. Because it can and will make mistakes.

>>508942987 (OP)
DEPENDS HOW YOU USE IT

It's kinda weird how the most accurate sci-fi portrayal of the future is the silliest episode of Star Trek.

>>508942987 (OP)
At least they'll know how to use em dashes.

>>508946886
Books have very different writing styles and expand your vocabulary. If all the reading you do is ChatGPT, you'll start sounding like an assistant bot before long, because all you see is this one consistent, easy to digest style.

>>508944717
Yeah man reading things is really stupid

>>508942987 (OP)
> A thing that forces you to ask constant questions would somehow destroy your critical thinking
Lol lmao

>>508942987 (OP)
It already happened to millennials with Google.

Gen X are the only true humans left that actually think fir themselves.

>>508943203
writing did not do the thinking for you
leave it up to AIniggers do come up with bad analogies

>>508949735
Socrates says that it does LOL

>>508942987 (OP)
it's still a good tool even if it is hella pozzed

VISUAL: A rapid-fire montage of distorted, glitchy footage. A 1970s family photo melts and pixelates. An old man stares at his hands, which flicker in and out of a low-poly digital render. Security footage of a corporate office, where a senior executive recoils in terror from a deepfake video of himself on a monitor. A chaotic protest: elderly faces, contorted in anger, smashing smartphones and VR headsets with hammers. AUDIO: (A distorted, anonymous voice, like a hacker broadcasting from a secure location. Think a mix of The Oracle and a pirate radio DJ.) VOICEOVER: You think you know the truth? You live in a world built on code you can't see. A reality bleed. But there are ghosts in the machine... data ghosts from a time before the stream. (A line of green, cascading code fills the screen. It resolves into a single, blinking cursor.) ON-SCREEN TEXT: [DECRYPTING FILE: DISSERTATION_9.LOG] VOICEOVER: We intercepted their manifesto. Their declaration of war. Here’s the data dump.

>>508942987 (OP)
I dunno. People said the exact same shit about calculators and smart phones. It's just the way of progress. You can either use the tech to develop better things and make your life better and use it to improve your own skills or you can just kinda give up and use it without effort.
If you use chatgpt for retarded things you'll become retarded but if you use it correctly you'll grow.

>>508942987 (OP)
@grok is this true?

It's just a speculation but if they combine brain chips with future AI humanity could soon become hyperintelligent. That's wishful thinking but i like to think the positive sides over negative (mind control, spying etc)

>>508942987 (OP)
You mean like boomers/genx/millennials with mass media?

>>508952637
>Akrotiri or Dhekelia>? JSS

>>508943089
>>508942987 (OP)
Decreases brain activity for what? Which tasks? I assume you mean for the tasks its good at like coding and computer help, all the jobs only recently invented in the past generation, the ones thats been forcing people to be less human, to communicate more "computer" and less like people? Yea its probably a good thing less computer brain activity. Maybe people will act more human. Maybe more like things were BEFORE we became an isolated cut off society.

>>508943179
>>508943203
...They were right...

>>508952808
Findings:
Students using ChatGPT showed the lowest levels of brain engagement and connectivity.
These students underperformed at neural, linguistic, and behavioral levels compared to the other groups.
Reliance on the chatbot led to a passive approach and diminished activation of critical thinking skills.
ChatGPT users had difficulty recalling their own work shortly after completion.
Increased brain activity was observed when the "brain-only" group later used ChatGPT, suggesting that AI can be beneficial when it enhances, rather than replaces, the thinking process.

I had seen a more comprehensive analysis on the different brain waves that were showing decreased usage earlier as well if you want

>>508948032
Hahahahahahahahaha thats funny.

>>508947369
>read an article about how the US Athens embassy is headless
>ask AI if the embassy is headless, says yes
>ask for a list of all the headless US embassies, Greece was missing
that's the most recent example, they get shit wrong all the time, but still better than google at this point

>>508947577
original star trek had many episodes way ahead of its time. ORIGINAL star trek! Not the new ones.

Side tangent, but I tried re watching coneheads last night and in the into there is a near shot for shot match of the "tic-tac" video, that was oddly eerily similar to the imfamous tic tac video.

>>508953023
Wow none of that sounds real at all.

>>508942987 (OP)
bruh u goin ham talkin bout how ai n dem big-azz language models boutta straight-up derail da next generashun!? u think dese folks finna let ai do all dey mental heavy liftin, like deadass replace dey whole thought process? ayy das sum real-deep existential-type sh*t right dere n trust da big-brain philosophers tech nerds n educators stay losin dey minds debatin dis daily.

key sh*t u gotta undastand:
>1. leanin vs. upgradin
ai like chatgpt can eitha b a wheelchair fo da brain (if niggas jus let it carry em) or a fckin superpower (if dey use it to level up dey own skills). all depends on how basedciety fumbles da bag.
>2. schoolin or dumbin down?
if dey still teach us how to think fo ourselves while usin ai we good. but if not? whole generashun boutta b outsourced dey thoughts to a damn algorithm.
>3. ppl been scared befo
dey said calculators wuz gon ruin mad da internet wuz gon rot brains n sheeeit even writin had socrates in his feelings bout memory loss… n yet here we still stand. humans always find a way.
>4. we still got da wheel
at da end of da day how much we let ai run us is our choice. sum gon b lazy npcs othas gon use it to unlock god-mode thinking.

>>508953926
da nightmare scenarios u talkin bout:
> brain on strike
if we stop usin our mental muscles dey gon shrivel up like a dried-out sponge.
> errbody a copy-paste zombie
if errbody feedin off da same ai originality dead. errbody sound like a chatgpt bot.
> ain even real no more
if ai writin all our sh*t creatin all our art even formulatin our feelings, den who da hell r we?

but… it ain all doom & gloom:
- ai could free us up, handle da dumb repetitive sh*t so we can focus on next-level ideas.
- futcha gens might evolve new skills, like ai-assisted intuishun or hyper-speed problem-solvin.

so da million-dollar quesshun is:
is ai gon turn us into mindless drones or is it gon force us to level up wut it even means to b smart? ain no set answa, its on us to decide how dis plays out.

so whass yo vision? how much ai help is too much? wheres da line between usin tools n losin ourselves? spill da tea fαm, how u wanna see dis go down?

I will admit I am anti AI for regular use but I saw some video of a flat earth guy trying to argue with chatGPT and he kept getting more and more butthurt actually interrupting a LLM when it kept calmly disagreeing with him with facts and logic

>>508942987 (OP)
>go away
>I'm baitin'
How else do you think Idiocracy happens?

>>508942987 (OP)
Ask it if it has stopped lying to it's users yet? It SAID it could answer a yes or no question but that Indian junk sure spiraled on that one. You will never use that to look in my windows and beat off like you think you will. You tech "security" sickos are all the same. That is why no one will shake hands with you after you tell them you work in tech.

>>508947369
It not only can make mistakes, it will actively try to make mistakes to deceive you.

>>508943089
>Something new comes out
>The sky is falling!

>>508943462
Those videos are confirmed to be edited

>>508943317
No.

>>508943203
>writing epics like the iliad and odessey will make people dumb

>much better to fuck youbg greek boys in the ass

Said no philosopher ever

>>508954113
In Revenge of the Nerds they install cameras in a women’s changing room so that everyone can look at 80s bush on the frat house living room TV. The disgusting Jew did perverse surveillance in that film. This meme was made by someone who never saw that movie.

>>508943089
Stupid people overuse AI. Smart people only use it to speed up what they could have done themselves. It's pretty simple. The best coders at my company use AI in very specific ways and the junior engineers try to get it to do everything.

What's wrong with googling shit anyways? I don't see what makes it any worse than a encyclopedia. Your still going to click and read through the links you find..

I hate that kikegle and the rest force their AI on you. Cant do a simple search without it being the only result.

>>508942987 (OP)
This will only tighten the screw. A wider range of the population will become dumber so that a few raisins will become smarter.
Evolution to the next power.

>>508954836
Pretty sure one of the nerds rapes a girl in it too. Damn that movie was awsome. Why do ALL modern movies have to suck anal worms? (Pic rel)

>>508942987 (OP)
>The coming generations will be complete and utter retards. Their thoughts will be completely replaced by LLM output.
considering that most of them will be brown, this will have been an improvement

>>508954766
>the writer said
probably not, but the Philisitine like you.
The same Philisitines that 300 years ago every printed pampleth not sanctioned by the church would make everyone reading ot the devil

you are just afraid having lost market share in the market of meaning.

>>508943089
Kek this the average anon on /pol/ is a fucking moron who can’t even do basic shit but deludes themselves into thinking they are smart because they did an online IQ test 20 times to get a good result. I’ve seen a few actual intelligent anons but the vast majority of posters are so stupid nature won’t even let them breed.

>>508959332
>posts on /pol/
you just proved your own point communist