If white people don't get their shit together, stop bitching about shit that doesn't matter, and get the birth rate up, then we will die out and we fucking deserve it.

Any society that doesn't value it's continued existence will inevitably be consumed by a society that does and that is just and correct. We must fight it on that level.

So convincing our fellow Whites that we deserve and should value continued existence should be our number 1 priority, and we are completely failing in that regard. No one on the right is even working on it, it's all focused on hating others instead of loving ourselves

>>509002382 (OP)
pic unrelated

>>509002382 (OP)
Glorious Ulster, the only place in Britain left with any real men

>>509002382 (OP)
The problem is people have been too busy Jewing each other. Instead of just giving land to their fellow kind they try to extort them and then wonder what happened.

>>509002567
sure bud

White people need to grow up and realize that sending your kids off to the government to be educated is a massive gamble and is the obvious reason for why young white people are stupid, weak, hedonistic, and anti-white

>>509002752
Everyone should research the history of public schooling especially in the United States of America. It was originally funded by (((Rockefella))), pretty much all the educational institutions were.

>>509002752
>>509002843
No, turning against the government is defeatist, you simply need to take the government back by taking the minds of the people back. Public schooling just produces weird, antisocial kids who will be useless.

>>509002954
Public schooling only tells kids what they want them to know. The chances are most of history is fake and a lot of science is too.

>>509002954
Sorry, HOME schooling produces weird antisocial morons. Public schooling is a good thing, people need to learn to be social.

>>509002382 (OP)
Except most whites believe that they have no continued existence since we're all one the same and replaceable. They don't understand their mere uniqueness on account of their genes, they genuinely think that are one and the same as everyone else.

>>509002954
Listen man you might be able to do public schooling if you do a few things, like separate off boys at 12 and have them be raised by males and girls by females. You would then have to have the instructors actually know something, so retired military, factory workers, farmers, etc. At the end of the day the easiest solution would be to have parents raise their own children and mentor them in the family trade. The vast majority of youths have no use for the algebra, science, reading, and history. There are so many reasons to suggest that public schools are a giant incubation chamber for degeneracy and anti social beliefs. There are a thousand trades and it would make more sense for those trades to be passed father to son than to somehow rely on the government to teach them, which will invariably just create a parasite bureaucracy. Our western public schools teach our kids awful sinful and anti nationalist ideas, men who hate masculinity, women who hate femininity, and they do not teach our kids how to make anything aside from a small percent of higher intellectual pursuits. Those are the kids that need schooling, kids who will become doctors and engineers. Everyone else needs to learn a trade in their teens and be surrounded by wise adults not drug addicted peers.

>>509003381
No one actually thinks this, because otherwise people wouldn't value diversity. Point this out, see how people react. I am certain the people can be brought out of this death spiral

>>509003402
Nah, this is a recipe for poor, antisocial, useless people. You cannot reject academia, you cannot reject science, you have to be at the center of it and control it, be the focus. Whites ruled the world through owning science. Trades are nice but you don't rule a country with carpet cleaners.

What kind of "people" need to be convinced they should exist?

>>509003900
Dude read about the history of mass education. Before the 1900s most kids either learned from their parents or were apprenticed. They spent their teen years learning how to earn a living. What the heck do you think happens when you put 300 kids together with 50 adults and try to batch produce some sort of cookie cutter middle class officianado. None of them are going to be farmers or factory workers, they are all going to have bullshit ideas and be obsessed with sex.

>>509002382 (OP)
it's very simple to fix. ban birth control and women's education.

failing that the birth rate CANNOT be fixed. do you understand? women do not actually like having children if they can avoid it.

the only solution is to re-establish patriarchy and bring women under the control of men again. that will never happen, so we will be replaced by the islamic patriarchy instead.

>>509002382 (OP)
Why do North Americans obsess over Britain when they have far more problems than we do?

>>509002382 (OP)
>If white people don't get their shit together

>>509004277
Us, apparently.

>>509004341
Before the 1900s, your average kid was a moron. There only needs to be so many farmers or factory workers, and those jobs are increasingly technological.

>>509004498
>so we will be replaced by the islamic patriarchy instead.
No we won't you pathetic simp.

>>509004498
>ban birth control and women's education.
okay lets JUST go do that t hen retard. good luck, I'm sure it will be very simple and you will experience no push back at all.

>failing that the birth rate CANNOT be fixed
False.

>>509004498
Im sure women like having children when they're ready. Especially white women I think are cautious. And the problem is we are raising men and women who will never be ready to have children. Think of how many western people begin their adult lives physically disabled and addicted to drugs, sex, videogames and other nonsense. Is it any wonder those people dont want to have children?

>>509002382 (OP)
>get the birth rate up
increase wages, time off work and make housing affordable
that's literally all you need to do, and everything those in power don't want to do

>>509004816
>increase wages, time off work and make housing affordable
These are all good things and a step in the right direction, but my concern is that without making having children more socially beneficial, people will just use this to slack off and play video games more

>>509004815
>Im sure women like having children when they're ready.
they don't though
evolution never needed to get women to actually WANT children, so they don't
it just sort of happened for the last million years, but birth control and equal rights and education have put an end to it

>>509004628
I think that the average western 18 year old is a moron. I think that his great grandfather knew a lot more about fucking, fighting, farming, and general functioning than he does. I think a small fraction of society will ever be doctors and engineers and they are the ones that should spend their growing years learning that stuff. I think that the reason our societies are being conquered is because every generation of white people is weaker and stupider than the last and that basically comes down to how they are being raised.

>>509002382 (OP)
>>509002954
>>509003045
Its afraid kek

>>509004917
Yeah but my point is that the average woman coming out of western education system is not ready to be a good mother. She doesnt know how to do all the stuff her great grandma did. Instead she knows a bunch of algebra and literature and pop music, how to twerk and smoke weed, etc. Additionally her male equivalents are probably similarly underprepared for raising children. But I do agree that women fundamentally need to be either property of husband or father. Right now they are property of state. The state's overreach exists in many fields beyond just gender, like for example the inability of a shopkeep to defend his store from thieves. Power hungry and blind bureaucrats don't understand they are paralyzing society. When a shopkeep can beat a thief and when a father can beat a boyfriend will represent a more sophisticated society.

Nothing funnier than worthless boomers LARPing as future shapers or some shit.

>>509005099
Believe it or not, as someone who's lived as a NEET for years, it's pretty shit and doesn't do anything good for anyone. Again, lonely, poor, anti social people do not help anyone.

>>509005260
>Yeah but my point is that the average woman coming out of western education system is not ready to be a good mother. She doesnt know how to do all the stuff her great grandma did.
THIS.

I agree with a lot of what you said.
Women are taught to be 'strong and independent' and to get their own careers, this might seem to be a good idea but it breaks down the family dynamic.

In addition to this many males have almost given up after being beaten down for so long . . .uncontrolled immigration helped cause this too.

For example:
In Britain a couple of decades ago, we had shitloads of Polish Plumbers/ Constructions workers arrive. They were happy to work for minimum wage and no extra overtime payment, employers loved this but the Brits believed their skills were worth more (and they were right).
The Polish did arrive for work and put extra hours in but quality was shit and they always needed supervision.

Brits trying to raise a family, could not compete with 20 eastern Euros living in one house (sending their money back home) and got pissed off.

>>509005613
Boomer concern troll who the fuck told you that my goal is to help you?

>>509005910
Are you ready to get digested by the corporate golem? Here in the USA all ethnic ties were supplanted long ago by your value provided to the corporation. Thats why they emancipated women too, they thought it was a shame how unproductive it was having half the country be at home. Thats how they actually thought back in the 40s. Now the American's sole purpose is to please his corporation enough to live somewhere safe from the welfare junkies. I have to imagine similar reshaping has happened in China, albeit with a more nationalist flavor. The real story behind all this is the aggregation of power into the brutal high tech all powerful corporate state. It's really easy to imagine the bullshit liberal utopian dreams these idiots have. Now that the mob is turning anti white and anti jewish and anti capitalist hopefully they will wake up, the entire corporate sector of like 20 million office workers that generate this idea system. But by now they must be totally infested with jeets and arabs who will make becoming racist ultra hard. Not to mention all the women. Probably it'll just pull a detroit and collapse into a post industrial gang warzone that is easy pickings for the more consolidated chinese.

>>509002382 (OP)
london

>>509004628
Being illiterate doesn't necessarily mean you can't think.

britain

>>509005260
A great society wouldn't need shopkeepers.

>>509004963
What's really been lost is the old knowledge like folk medicine. You didn't need (((doctors))) back then.

>>509006920
the countries we were supposed to inherit have been given away to foreigners.

>>509003402
>The vast majority of youths have no use for the algebra, science, reading, and history.
Lmao you just listed the only things public schools are good for. If you cut every single aspect of public schooling *except* for these then things would likely be fine.
>men who hate masculinity, women who hate femininity
This is taught by public schools, but it isn't taught explicitly by teachers or the curriculum, it's taught implicitly by the social environment that schools create. If the dumbest most niggerlike kids get to be the definition of "masculinity" and "femininity" for the first 16 years of everyone's lives then everyone is going to grow up hating masculinity and femininity. Stop letting shitty kids define these roles and everyone else won't grow up to hate them. The socially dominant kids from my school never went on to get jobs etc, they are all in prison or junkies or whatever now. These were the kids that got to define what masculinity and femininity was for my generation, so my generation grew up associating these things with dumb violent retards. That's why everyone who went to college became gay/trans/left/etc. It's literally just
>I don't want to be like those dickhead kids from school

>>509003900
>Nah, this is a recipe for poor, antisocial, useless people
It's the opposite imo. Public schooling is why people are antisocial. When your only experiences of "socializing" for the first 16 years of your life are being locked in a prison with dumb hormonal dickheads then you are going to grow up to hate being around other people.

>>509006669
>>509006717
Please don't post bullshit. Britain 66% white - Seriously?

>>509006472
> Now that the mob is turning anti white and anti jewish and anti capitalist hopefully they will wake up,
Something funny happened recently.
Some Paki woman who they invite onto British news programs (Ash Sarkar -self confessed communist) probably to invite ragebait is being investigated and she went berserk !

She has spent years spouting anti-British, communist crap and demanding that Tommy Robinson be locked up for voicing his opinions, has suddenly done a 180 and complained about 'free speech' (only because she is now being under scrutiny).

Maybe this will be the start of something IDK.

>>509007305
>This is taught by public schools,
Are you really British or are just a Mutt on a VPN.

Public schools have a VERY different meaning in Britain than they do in the USA . . . .do you realise that?

>>509007305
That's the biggest problem with schools. You have 300 kids and 50 poorly trained adults. It should be more like an apprentice program with 1 kid and 4 veterans. In the school system there are no adult role models. The social environment is just trash. If we assume a technofeudalist future then the school system should gender split at puberty and then have the male kids be sent into the workforce to apprentice. The inevitable counterpart of having all kids be raised by the government is that the government then decides what economic function they will do for the rest of their life, North Korea style. In our current system they are being trained to be socialist agitators and consumers. The social environment of a classroom with 30 kids and 1 teacher makes them anti authoritarian and hedonistic, which is why 18 year olds scream constantly about sex drugs abortion and free love. I would really say that passing down trades father to son would probably be the best, outside of niche technical professions.

>>509007819
>should gender split at puberty and then have the male kids be sent into the workforce to apprentice.
Many years ago that is what used to happen in Britain.
But like I said before, we had mass uncontrolled immigration and Euros said " I can do that for far cheaper" Romanians for example earned over 6x the money in Britain than they would in Romania but the quality was shit.
And don't talk to me about schools, they are the hub of left-wing ideology and so damaging of kids today.

>>509007418
>Please don't post bullshit. Britain 66% white - Seriously?
"white british" learn to fuckin read achmed

>>509008542
I guess your Mutt memes override the fact that I live here and see people everyday.

Fuck off Tyrone Hernandez.

>>509008700
>I live here and see people everyday
oh nevermind then i guess the statistics are wrong and britain isn't being overrun by shitskins from the third world. retard

>>509009107
>Britain has 2.7% Pakis
>New York alone is 9% Pakis

Cry into your grits Fat Mutt.

>>509002382 (OP)
Why are brits/scots/irish so suicidal? Specially their women. Whenever you see a foid SEETHING about chuds being mean to immigrants it's always one of the three. Why? What happened?

>>509002382 (OP)
We need to get the non-whites to viciously hate us so that anti-racist whites stop existing. Hating other groups creates this.

Shut the fuck up retard. You got redpilled last year and it shows

>>509002954
People with our ideas aren’t allowed to be employed in the government.

>>509009266
at least i can acknowledge my country is gone. your level of denial is insane

>>509003045
I agree but only because public school exposes you to reality

>>509002382 (OP)
>If white people don't get their shit together, stop bitching about shit that doesn't matter
Won't, simply too far gone it would see,
>we fucking deserve it.
I never said that, but the jew does and so do all the politicians that whites continue to worship circle jerk style, it is almost as if they would willingly go extinct with a smile just to touch some politicians dick
Are you sure you even want to go on? What the point?
If so then stop worship politicians, it activates most peoples gag reflex when you do that shit and it looks weak AF too.

>>509003381
The ones who think they are the same as everyone are the same as everyone else, the ones who realize we are unique are the ones who are unique.

When we take back our countries, we will invade the non-white countries and draft the white liberals into the meat grinder.

Who cares about "white people". This problem is the idea of "white people" that the chuds on here have in their head is not reflective of white people in reality. In reality whites are dumb, lazy and selfish. Whites have no community and everyone's out for themselves. Say what you want but I'm jealous of the jeets and chinks because they always have friends and family and are never alone.

>>509009667
>at least i can acknowledge my country is gone.
Well done - that's the first step.

Worry about your own failed nation and stop projecting on to others just because you have been too cowardly to sort out your own country.

>>509002382 (OP)
>celts least affected
Why is that the case?

>>509004498
Better option: just take away as many rights from women no matter what and regardless of common sense. The less freedom they have, the more freedom we will have and the better our societies will become.

This isn’t a one solution or 2 kind of problem, we must reverse women’s liberation back to the Middle Ages and ideally WAY BEYOND THAT.

>>509002704
That building doesn't exist anymore.

Supreme Court just dropped a huge W today.
They are going back
Europe should use its demographic majority to send them back while they have it.

>>509009967
They are NOT Celts . . .it's a Larp.

Long story but Celts were a culture NOT a race and the culture died centuries ago. they are no different than the rest of the UK.

>>509004886
You have to make having children the single most profitable endeavour and people will do it. Like literally a million dollars or hundreds of thousands of dollars per birth

>>509010170
>celts were a culture not a race
Idk nigel you're sounding like one of those pro-immigrant jews. Don't they have different languages and fundamental cultural differences to you. Aren't you also brythonic by blood?

>>509010170
>Celts were a culture NOT a race
Celts are an ethnic group. That's both culture and race. Here, I'll break it down in three easy steps:

1. Ancestry
2. Heritage
3. Culture

Celts are descended from Bell Beaker people, like Germanics are. Germanics and Celtics are ethnic cousins.

>>509002382 (OP)
Due to demographic imbalance it's probably already over. Not even trying to be black pilled but we're rapidly reaching a point where the average non-White in White countries is in their mid-20's whereas the average White is going to be in their mid 50's. It's functionally over and we went extinct without even a fight. No one on this board will do anything either. They're all comfortable enough with their soma and video games and no having 2 children is not going to be enough - actual action will have to be taken or those children will just be even more fucked. Action that no one has the werewithal or perhaps even the ability to take.

>>509010423
Different languages doesn't mean a different race.
And cultural differences are very minimal, almost irrelevant.
I'm a bit of a buff on this subject but I don't want to go into too much depth but regards the languages, Welsh nearly disappeared completely but was rescued by money from Westminster and Cornish speakers can barely fill a village hall, The Irish and Scots are not of celtish culture either but that is a different subject.
They Brythonic thing is also worthy of a long discussion but it's a waste of time here but well done for mentioning it.

>>509010669
>Celts are descended from Bell Beaker people,
Your silly picrel and shallow understanding means you don't know very much but rely on jewpedia . . . .sorry but you are dismissed.

As for the UK, the whites in the UK are dumb and lazy. Everyone is out for themselves, and on top of that a significant percentage are outright traitorous. Tell a reason why I should be aligned with my own race when the majority of them would have me killed for saying "nigger". The only wignats are spics and jeets for a reason.

>>509010976
>Your silly picrel and shallow understanding means you don't know very much but rely on jewpedia . . . .sorry but you are dismissed.
Piss off then you ignorant swine.

>>509011163
I have researched this for years kid.
And no amount of silly picrels/charts from crappy sources with shallow outdated views with convince me otherwise.
Calling me stupid names doesn't make me change my views either.

Sorry about that.

>>509002382 (OP)
>muh birth rates
nigger we are cooked. Whites instituted this disastrous system and will be consumed by it like Frankenstein. the average White women would rather have an abortion than a child. the only hope at this point is a massive nuclear war or some other social collapse. and it wont even happen because we live in hell. It will probably be another 200 years because things begin to turn around. really the world ended in 1945.

>>509011403
>I have researched this for years kid
Oh good. So where's your better argument?

>>509011566
I have done far more research into this than stupid maps/charts and meme Haplogroups.
It's a lot more involved than these 'Ladybird Book' type descriptions and explanations.

>>509011829
>I have done far more research into this than stupid maps/charts and meme Haplogroups
Well, we're all waiting for it.

>>509002382 (OP)
White people will go out of their way to protect species of beetles nobody cares about but when it comes to protecting themselves they can't pass a single law for it.

>>509011982
Britain is lost

America is . . . . .oh shit . . . . wait a minute.

>White British
LOL

>>509002382 (OP)
the final solution to the female question:
>end women's rights
>enforce monogamy
>end all government handouts

>>509002634
Also, nobody wants to raise a family in a small town. Everyone wants to go to the big city in their 20s, go to college and chase wealth. By the time they find wealth, their minds have been so warped by the rat race that starting a family is inconceivable.

>>509012029
I have posted indepth shit here before and it's a waste of my time.

Just like the MSM screenshots posted here (by mainly Mutts) of somebody being arrested for 'making a tweet about a police dog' . . . .when you research it, you find that the person has also encouraged others to 'kill the Pigs' . . . .but that is never in the clickbait headlines, if you take the time and trouble to explain it . . . .then two posts later you get - "Hurr durr Brits are cucks, - you get arrested for mocking a Police dog" and it gets ignored . . .waste of time.

I have explained The history of the ancient Britons here before and got a similar response.
The only guy that talked some sense in this thread had an Ethiopian flag (probably a VPN) but you are insistent on your jewpedia view and not open to conversation - so I'm not going to waste my time.

>>509012056
All for nothing too because when we're gone these fucking apes are going to kill and rape this planet so hard it'll be a miracle if they last 100 years without us.

>>509002382 (OP)
The only thing that will save us is the return of Jesus Christ. It has to get worse before it gets better.

>>509002382 (OP)
You're an Indian invader and coloniser.

Also, if you do not enjoy the society that you are in, have a media gas lighting machine that destroys the very heart and soul of a people,
so every interaction with them to some degree reduces your life to one that feels empty and hollow;
if the very culture that is carried forwards by the people starts with nigger ball and ends with how much money you can make from being a slave doing degrading and degenerate things.

What sort of person thinks then we must fight to secure our existence within such a world?
What for, to go on? to continue existing? but why is this existence considered to be sacred?
If its not fun and the only reason you have is because white people... its not really gonna work is it...

If you cannot create a world that has some sort of meaning or common goal for elevating the spirits then you are just fighting for the sake of fighting and your in a race to the bottom.
Your children will live under worse conditions than you live under, the world is becoming more noxious and corrosive to the spirit.
The people you're serving are brown, the society you fund is converting your world into a sterilised trash heap.

I live in an reptilian mining colony where all forms of organic culture are sterilised and everything is reduced to a state sanctioned event that offers an allocated slot for fun, which isn't fun.
The people are marred with neurosis and live in a completely synthetic reality that makes them weak and dependent on the system for guidance.
At which point all interactions feel as if you're in a simulation of a world that has not really figured out the most basic concepts of reality.

So no, I do not want to replicate such an existence... what sort of lucid and aware individual would want to replicate their life in such a society.
Its not really for me, but the NPCs who enjoy the bread and circuses can inherit the world.

>>509012796
>I have posted indepth shit here before and it's a waste of my time
If you've got the holy grail of evidence you would show it instead of dancing around the question.

The British media landscape reminds me of Yugoslavia 1989-1990. The reports are real, but they are amplified, daily. Just like Serbs accused the Kosovars of being rapists and terrorists, the Pakistanis are not rapists and terrorists. Instead of the Croats being Nazis and Fascists, the White British are Nazis and Fascists. Rape, petty crime, and others is justified on the basis of ethnicity - "white girls are for rape" - an actual quote by a Pakistani rapist. The country is barely holding together, but the political elite have virtually no clue. There is no introspection. The drift continues, the economic collapse accelerates, the loans dry up, the military starts to fracture - the cities become ungovernable. With nothing holding the state together, it begins to desintigrate. First slowly, but then quickly.