Thread 509019629

also notice how 10 years ago it used to be called global warming, but now it's 'climate change' because chuds can't stop noticing how the weather hasn't actually gotten hotter since then

You don't need to repeat the same bullshit for 35 years if it's real. Only lies need repeating.

>>509019838
oy vey

Those fuckers are trying to trick us into caring about the environment

Pretty sure the seasons just shifted a month and they compare spring to summer and fall to winter to confuse people.

>>509019629 (OP)
Cool story bro.
Marget thatcher called it climate change when she was in office.

>>509019910
If caring about the environment means not having a car, not having kids and being vegetarian alongside advocating for deindustrialisation then yes.

>>509020018
Why would they care if we have a car or not?

>>509020067
cars emit muh co2

>>509019910
Climate change cult doesn't give a fuck about the environment you dunce

>>509019978
She started it, unironically. Needed an excuse to close the coal mines. Rest is history.

>>509019629 (OP)
Stop noticing! The goyim know! Shut it down!

We're seeing shades of red that human eyes shouldn't be capable of detecting.

>>509020114
But if climate change is just a consipiracy then that doesn't actually matter

>>509019629 (OP)
climate cycles exists. not human problem.
the same thing was happening in 14th century

>>509019629 (OP)
Yes, it's real and we are on track to exceed the threshold of global temperatures 2 °C above pre-industrial levels sometime in the 2040s. 2 °C is the level at which temperatures become incompatible with industrial civilization. It's also worth nothing that global temperatures are rising faster than the P-T extinction event, the worst known mass extinction in earth's history.

>>509019978
>A bong female called it climate change
who fucking cares

Daily reminder that the total amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is 0.04%. That's four hundredths of one percent. It's a fucking miracle that we're still alive with such a small amount of a gas without which life on earth is impossible.

>>509020229
>2 more decades!

>>509020229
i live in a cold and dark place. I'm ok even with averages going up 10C. but i guess it sucks to be in texas and mexico.

>>509020276
i feel the same. if anything we need more co2. the climate nutters should focus on actual pollution like PFOS/PFAS, heavy metals, other toxic chemicals like pesticides, etc ettc. you know the shit that gives birth defects. not CO2, which isn't toxic. you literally breathe it out.

>>509020317
It doesn't really affect daytime temperatures, and not in places that are warm already. The alleged increases are at night, and in colder regions. Logical because CO2 can't create heat, it can only hold it a bit before it goes to space.

>>509020229
>temperatures become incompatible with industrial civilization
Why?

>>509019629 (OP)
Si this a map from 2 different tv channels.

Also, the scientific model developed in the 70' are predicting the current weather correctly.
So you should be able to choose who to trust nigga!

We're being absolutely flooded with muh climate change from journalists 24/7.
If politician wanted to do something, they would stop most international trade and reduce chinese and indian population by 4/5th.
But just want to take away your quality of life, so they push little bullshit forced measures everywhere. And it won't do shit compared to the pollution caused by a super tanker full of chink shit.

>>509020468
>so they push little bullshit forced measures everywhere
Such as?

>>509019629 (OP)
What are they going to do if it actually does get warmer? They've already blown through all the "shit is hot" colours and graphics

>>509020276
I thought the bad guy was the monoxide and not the dioxide I don't know anymore I just pay taxes so the guys that know better than me take care of me and my family members.

>>509020446
>scientific model developed in the 70' are predicting the current weather correctly
Are we all freezing to death, you fucking moron? Pic related is from the 70s. Newsweek.

>>509020238
>people just now started calling it climate change
I showed how that wasn't true.

>>509020468
This. If they actually cared about muh emissions, they'd tax goods based on distance traveled, and they never in a million years would allow Africans and Indians to mass migrate to the West, instantly increasing their carbon footprint tenfold

>>509020722
>I showed how that wasn't true
You just made a wild statement without source. You only showed you're a clueless midwit.

>>509019629 (OP)
Yes it is. Temperature is statistically rising. Easy to measure. Correlation with greenhouse gas is also pretty clear.
Most posts against it is cope.
Im not saying the green solution is right but nothing is weaker than denying facts because of political reasoning

>>509019629 (OP)
I dont know if it's just gigazoomers that lack any frame of reference who make these stupid threads or actual schizophrenic retards without an ounce of object permanence. Shit's fucked, you don't need to believe da joos, just look around you

>>509020496
Macron asked us to stop using wifi, and to unplug as much appliciances as we could if we were leaving for the week-end, for instance. Or making garbage men stop collecting glass, forcing us to deposit glass ourselves to some bullshit "green bins". You're fined if the trash inspector finds glass in your trash lmao.
There are now a couple of highways lanes in the country exclusively for shared rides. Thermic radars will tell along those lanes will tell if you were riding alone in your car, in which case you'll receive a fine.

>>509020420
>The alleged increases are at night, and in colder regions. Logical because CO2 can't create heat, it can only hold it a bit before it goes to space.
extremely based. my melons can't grow here cause the nights are to cold!

>>509020657
>Newsweek
Woha!
You really chosed a top-ranking scientific publication.
It's a great demonstration of you special mental capacities

https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming

>>509020803
>statistically rising
The alleged rise is less than the measurement error. You'll never see error bars in the graphs, because physicists would burst out laughing

>>509020892
Ah yeah I hate that shifting blame shit
It's pretending to do something because the people causing the actual damage are too powerful to fuck with but the populace aren't

>>509020983
>Science.org
Oh my gawd! It has 'science' in the domain! It must be real science.

>>509020276
So? We are also talking about only like 8.5 Watts per square metre more in the worst case scenario. Small changes still change much

>>509020892
Hahaha, get fucked you cuck.

>>509021056
Allegedly.

>>509020229
You don't seem to get it.
It was you guys who convinced me that climate change was bullshit.
Every time you try to inject some white privilege bullshit into climate debates, more people jump ship because bullshit is transitive.
We already know these people are bullshitters, so when they start being lifted up as authority figures in other contexts, we can conclude that those other things are bullshit too.
The fact that you don't care about these people ruining your image proves that you yourself don't really give a shit, and if you don't care then why should we?
I don't think I've ever listened to a "climate denial" argument in my life. I've just seen enough proof that the anti-white cult is full of shit, and the climate cult is in bed with them and refuses to ditch them so they must be full of shit too.

>>509020428
Because longer and more intense heat waves will cause mass crop failures against a backdrop of a global population predicted to have 1,000,000,000 more people than today.

>>509021043
Please, stop being an embarrassment...

>>509021080
Says the man paying his taxes for Stolperstein.

>>509021043
Democratic People's Republic of Science!

>>509019629 (OP)
Yes, it's real. My city, Plovdiv, used to have snow and ice every winter. It was normal for temperatures to drop below -10. I remember winters when we had -20 That hasn't been the case for 10+ years now. We almost never get snow and the temperatures are rarely below -1 or -2. And the summers are getting hotter and hotter.

>>509019910
I care about the environment, nature and wildlife, but the people that say I need to care also want to bulldoze and concrete over the countryside to build free houses for millions of wogs.

>>509021166
I don't even know what that means? Impact? You need to be 18 to post here. And if you're older then please show time stamped tits or gtfo.

>>509019629 (OP)
It’s real in the sense that it’s siphoning money from everyone and causing extreme cost of living issues

>>509020799
To Thatcher in 1990, at the end of her tenure at 10 Downing Street, the science was already clear.

“Our immediate task is to carry as many countries as possible with us, so that we can negotiate a successful framework convention on climate change in 1992,” she said in that 1990 speech. “To accomplish these tasks, we must not waste time and energy disputing the IPCC's report or debating the right machinery for making progress.”
https://www.climatecentral.org/news/the-iron-ladys-strong-stance-on-climate-change-15840

>>509020987
Its above 1 degree Celsius you dumb nigger. Also millions if not billions of this shit on earth.
Like I took a class on sensors and statistics in university. Your comment is so utterly retarded yet trying to sound smart holy shit

>>509021256
>That hasn't been the case for 10+ years now. We almost never get snow and the temperatures are rarely below -1 or -2. And the summers are getting hotter and hotter.
a human lifetime is nothing compared to earth life. just because you think it's not normal. doesn't actually mean it actually is.

the climate is completly normal. nothing you can do will change anything.

It's a load of nonsense.

>>509019910
No. Preserving the environment is problem with many dimensions and pareto situations. So the only solution is shrinking societies and economies, and using lasting products
Therefore, they channeled ecological efforts into one productizeable dimension, that is less CO2. Now every product can be resold with CO2 morals added.

>>509021256
Sorry anon but that has nothing to do with climate change, that’s just the earth pivoting more

>>509021410
>>509020799

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnAzoDtwCBg
https://www.margaretthatcher.org/document/107817

Holy shit the cognitive dissonance of climate change deniers is retarded

>>509021168
I am NEET, aint paying any taxes besides sales taxes.

>>509019838
>You don't need to repeat the same bullshit for 35 years if it's real. Only lies need repeating.
Do you even know where you are?
Do you know the history of this place?

>>509021344
of course you don't know what's the impact factor of scientific journal.
lol

>>509021610
There is no cognitive dissonance because there is no desire for cognitive coherence in the first place with these people.
They're completely capable of maintaining completely contradictory "beliefs" at the same time without any conflict. Because they don't give a fuck about truth. They only care how they can manipulate, con, troll and scam. Everything is a big game to them, EXCEPT when they directly experience personal consequences. Then it's the end of the world.

>>509021884
Best is the constant retreating.
>Climate isnt changing
>Okay climate is changing but it doesnt affect anything
>Okay it does affect stuff but humans dont have to do anything with it
Its obvious that they just want something to be true that aligns with their ideology which is retarded

>>509021884
>Everything is a big game to them, EXCEPT when they directly experience personal consequences. Then it's the end of the world.
This definitely sums up the shift during covid, going from laughing at chinks dying to absolute seethe when shelves were empty

>>509021993
You too

>>509019629 (OP)
Fuck you - my balls are melting

>>509021993
They don't even care about their ideology. It's just a platform for them to troll with.
Back in the 00's the trolls here were self-aware that they were trolling: using deception and manipulation to make people upset for sadistic fun. But over the years trolls here trolled other trolls into damning their own souls into becoming the worst possible versions of themselves they could be. They forgot they were trolling, they lost their "off" switch and being living hate generators became their entire identity. Being miserable, hateful, unlikable people they never made friends or families and got caught in a loop of blaming their problems on whatever convenient scapegoat.

>>509019934
Same opinion, but here it is almost 2 months. Snow doesn't even start until middle of January, then it doesn't stop raining until end of May, and autumn ends in start of November. The only problem is there is a short temperature rise in April and then a sudden frost for the past 3 years. It completely decemates the fruit trees. I have not had a single peach or plume for the past 3 years.

>>509019629 (OP)
Stop noticing goy and pay climate tax

>>509019629 (OP)
Global warming and climate change aren't real what's happening is a natural process on our planet it's a magnetic pole shift and we are getting hit by the suns gamma radiation more because of the magnetic pole shift

>>509020229

You said that 40 years ago.

>>509021610
>>509021884

Retarded basedlenial r.edditor fags.

>>509022457
>>509021884

Your climate doomsday predictions are unfalsifiable so therefore not scientific. I dont have to listen to you. Burden of proof, faggot. Every single on of your predictions has failed.

>>509019629 (OP)
>Is climate change even real?
problem is it is murked with social cybernetics like pic related by shady group trying to take over newly created carbon multibilion bussiness from the thin air unironically
any mediocre history buff witnessed records of serious climate changes in books, some resulting in major population movements changing course of history of many countries
but this shady entity pushes own agenda with shitty argument, so many will disregard it as whole as scam
meanwhile we probbly should rump up production and industry to mitigate impact such another migration would have happening
and change seems happening as other planets gets warmer too (so human role debate is pointless, it just fucking happening)
but we cannot have good plan with scammers in charge; plus we get fake migration thanks to jews pushing it to subvert white nations

These are normal summer temperatures

>>509019629 (OP)
You're too young to remember. Before that it was acid rain was going to destroy all the crops. Before that it was a new ice age was coming. At some point inbetween planes and satellites were going to fall out of the sky because computers couldn't count past 99. Someone mentioned the Mayans at some point.

The solution then was to give the government all your money, which apparently hasn't changed. It's all so tiresome.

>>509023683
We actually did fix the ozone layer though.
Also, can any climate change denier explain why there hasn't been a single normal winter for over 10 years now?

>>509020276
The lack of CO2 is probably why so much desertification is happening.

>>509023880
Keep arguing with the voices inside your head, faggot.

>>509024081
Cmon, explain to me why we haven't had a normal winter in 10 years.


Why do my young cousins not know what snow is?

>>509019629 (OP)
As far as France goes, the data is there and you can see a trend of increased average temperatures going up since the 1920s. Whether it is because of human activity or not is up to you, but denying it has been getting hotter is just you being a retarded nigger ass iik ook flavoured flemmish piece of shit that should kill himself while taking as many molenbeek muzzies together with him so you will finally have done something of worth in your entire retarded frikadel nigger life.

>>509019629 (OP)
no it's not, at best we have a seasonal shift meaning winters arrive later and so do sumners

t. i go outside everyday

>>509019629 (OP)
Its all so dishonest and evil. Climate change fanatics make me want to pollute.

no shit it's real. it's so obvious even if you just look at the temperature change in big cities which are on average 3-5° hotter than the countryside. look at all the new invasive species, the nature is dying in front of our eyes while we air condition our plastic boxes. Teheran hasn't seen blue sky since the 80s. In India you smell burnt plastic that clouds the sun until you reach 3500 m above sea level. China used to be all on bikes 40 years ago, now everyone drives cars. USA isn't much better, LA will probably burn every summer now and the yellow mist won't go away for a while. Hurricanes will take out half of midwest.
Ecofascism is the only way, don't be contrarian just for the sake of it, we need a major population decline and don't be scared of living standard dropping, it has been for a while now, the frog is being slowly cooked so who cares about the fucking gadgets and whatnot. Only morons and jews will try to tell you that their little economic system they benefit from is sustainable. If you have the slightest knowledge about the world you know things can't go up forever.
>>509023208
also this

>>509019629 (OP)
>is climate change real?

Of course not, it's a depop agenda fantasy only believed by brainlets. You are the carbon they want to reduce.

>>509021993
It's obvious that you are a confused Christian who has latched onto the climate cult as a surrogate religion.

>>509019629 (OP)
gov statistics for snow on christmas in different parts of the country
recent years it has become warmer especially in comparison to boomers childhoods which is probably what they remember the best, but overall not that crazy

Exxon already proved global warming was real, and caused by fossil fuels, back when they were called "Humble oil". But brainlets will only believe a "conspiracy theory" when it alligns with their beliefs. So I don't even expect you fags to google it. Personally IDGAF, the ecosystem won't collapse in my lifetime and its already too late to stop it without extreme measures, so I'm just going to crank the AC and enjoy life.

Pic related shows the color scheme the National Weather Service traditionally uses for temperature along with an insert map for the "wet bulb temperature" map. It's interesting that they used a different color scheme for the "wet bulb" map and that it contains weird artifacts like the one shown.
Wet Bulb is what the activists want you to look at now. Apparently everyone understood that the Heat Index was based on perception, which varies by person, so now they use Wet Bulb to sound scientific (anons, it's based on a special formula created by The Science!) and have a reason to come up with an entirely different color scheme for the maps.

>>509019629 (OP)
that 45 in fucking Avignon tells how fake that shit it

>>509021151
>Starvin' Marvin 2.0
Not my problem.

>>509020229
For Africa mayhaps.
Europe's agricultural yield is going to increase.
Lmao.

>>509021166
>retards quote other retards and that's why it's true
IF is a meme especially with publication bias and people not disclosing their funding

>>509019629 (OP)
Yes but not the way most people think about it. Actual effects will vary widely. Destabilization of established weather patterns is what you will notice.

>>509019910
by replacing forests with wind turbines and mining rare minerals used for batteries. even dams are considered "green" :D

>>509019629 (OP)
Back then, you would look at historical data and get a monthly average. Then you would draw a spectrum from blue (or green) to red based on average min and average max.
Thus, 28°C wouldn't be as red in the middle of june as 20°C in Februrary.
They have switched from monthly to yearly.
Meaning, if you look at the year's average, 30°C is out of the ordinary warm.

>>509019629 (OP)
Yeah, it's real unfortunately. It's not so much about summer and heat waves, but the average global temperatures increasing, ice caps and glaciers melting and not reforming (they store freshwater for the summer), and winters in general becoming milder and shit.

What you're experiencing is climate change fatigue. The narrative that the powers that be in conjunction with the MSM and other propagandists have been pushing for decades already that isn't about talking and tackling this problem but virtue signaling and controlling people's actions, limiting and surveilling specifically. Demoralizing and humiliating secondarily.

You know, carbon emission quotas, renewable energy, green slop, recycle this and that.... it's all a virtue signal. But that aside, the global average temperatures ARE rising.

>>509028370
>You know, carbon emission quotas, renewable energy, green slop, recycle this and that.... it's all a virtue signal
it's all good sounding, but we live now in era you can with one click verify what other parts of world do in this matter like China, India and rest of developing countries
and seeing they do shit and EU is blind to it, conlusion is it's not about climate, it's about control and money

>>509019629 (OP)
You don't even know what global temperature means. Here check this out:

Global Temperature Rise:
Definition: Refers to the long-term increase in Earth's average surface temperature.
Cause: Primarily attributed to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere due to human activities, like burning fossil fuels.
Impacts: Affects global weather patterns, sea levels, and ice cover, leading to changes in precipitation, more frequent extreme weather events, and rising sea levels.

>>509028819
https://www.usace.army.mil/Infrastructure-and-Installation-Resilience/Planning-for-Changing-Sea-Levels/

USA's military has already planned for this for the upcoming 100 years.

>>509028370
There is zero evidence that a warmer climate is a net negative. The land mass distribution actually implies more fertile land as a result, specifically in Russia and Canada.

The supposed "evidence" is all in models built on the assumption that warmer weather is bad.

Historically warmer weather is when humanity prospered, by the way.

>>509019629 (OP)
from today kek

>>509019629 (OP)
It's both, the climate is changing because the planet is heating up.

Your pictures proves nothing because you're not looking at average temperature and notice how the winters are also getting hotter.

>>509019629 (OP)
Climate change is fake and gay. Here is why:

1. Think of melting glaciers in Greenland. Does the water leave earth? NO.

2. Are the substances causing air pollution alien? NO. They are already present in earth. They just change from one form to another.

The reason why they tell you it's happening is to make you more compliant once they introduce more tax.

>>509020468
>>509020733
The thing is that people like you would never accept measure like that, so how do you find a balance to reduce emissions while also keeping people happy?

>>509019629 (OP)
It's increasing solar output.
The sun is getting more lively.
Climate change is a coverup, because there is nothing we can do about it.

>>509019838
That's why people are leaving Tuvulu.

>>509023683
>Acid rain
Was a problem and then the world government decided to tackle the issue so it would no longer be a problem
>New ice age
Was never a thing
>Y2K
Was an issue but it was an issue that got overblown by the media and the common man. Not the scientific community. >>509027738
>Wet Bulb is what the activists want you to look at now.
Yes because wet bulb creates a lot of other issues compared to just heat. Like how after a certain point in the wet bulb scale your body can no longer cool itself and starts to actually absorb heat from the environment.

>>509028819
>frequent extreme weather events, and rising sea levels.
this is the main reason why I know that it’s mostly bullshit

"Climate change is a hoax" is a psyop by the rich elite btw

>>509029894
what about "global warming is a hoax"

>>509029894
The same rich elite that keeps buying seaside property that is supposedly going to be flooded within the next 10 years?

>>509029802
Why do you think it's bullshit?

>>509029982
also a psyop by oil and coal trillionaires
>>509030028
That statement is part of the psyop

>>509030047
Sea levels rising is on par with flat earth nonsense
And frequent wild weather has always been a thing, we just have the internet now

>>509019629 (OP)
>muh climate change
I'm convinced most people only believe the weather is getting hotter because they live in a world with 24/7 A/C
It was +36 and like 100%, humidity the other day and I was walking around in jeans and a black hoodie. Barely even noticed (I dont use A/C). Yet everyone else was bitching about muh heat

>>509030201
What about rising sea levels do you think is nonsense?

>>509030252
How much water do you think is on earth anon
Do you think it’s constantly in one state and unmoving?

>>509030252
Sea levels aren't rising retard

>>509030430
>>509030457
So if we account for all the ice that's on land, mountains and glacier have plenty of snow and ice. Which melts with rising temperature, Greenland has a lot of ice on it but that ice rests on a landmass. When that ice melts and gets added to the ocean, you don't think all that increases water will cause the Sea levels to rise?

Oh and let's not forget that the ice is fresh water and when that gets added to the ocean it reduces the salt which will have further ecologic impact.

>>509019629 (OP)
Seems climate change correlate with France international interests

>>509021484
>>509021499
>temperatures going up doesn't mean the climate is changing

>>509030592
See again, this is why I can’t take you retards seriously

>>509030806
Anon, those are called seasons

We're literally in the middle of an extinction event and the plebes lick the boots of their caesars.

>>509030835
But why, I laid out to you how global warming will cause sea levels to rise and dilute the oceans of salt. What about it do you find wrong, do you have data that says otherwise?

>>509019629 (OP)
jeeeeeshish 45 seems kinda rough

>>509030887
So if an summer has an average temperature of 29 degree, then next year 30, then 31, 32, 33 etc

Is that still season?

>>509030944
No one cares about some gay birds or bugs going extinct, libtard

>>509030666
you faggs only said non to Iraq because of putler and us

>>509031157
>"No one cares if we take that one wall of the house down or not!"

>>509031157
Not even the pollinators?

>>509031211
Beautiful Clean Coal.
>>509031295
Who cares about some gay flowers when China is developing? You want them to get ahead?

>>509021149
>bullshit is transitive
Nice thought terminator you came up with there. Life’s so much easier when you don’t have to think too hard about anything.

>>509031114
depends where you measure it
growing cities fuck up climate stations

>>509031114
If I have more points of data entry, does that make my readings a trend or more accurate?

>>509019629 (OP)
>now it's 'climate change' because chuds can't stop noticing how the weather hasn't actually gotten hotter since then
Correctly but underlying reason is a bit different. Avg global temp raises so it was called global warming and that name is correct. But avg raise in global temp do not mean that local temperature in Europe will raise, it will probably fall down in longer period of time. Thus name global warming was exploited by chuds and process name was changed to climate change as pandering to retards.

>>509031402
Yes cities are giant heat blocks, but a lot of climate stations aren't in the cities
>>509031408
Both

>>509031569
>both
Or neither
If you measure inaccurate data against accurate data, how can it be a trend?

>>509031693
Can't help but feel you are avoiding answering my question

>>509021496
>CO2 morals
Best way to measure actual ecological footprint is LCA (lifecycle assesment) but it's harder to quantify. Carbon policing is much easier but it also ignores the true ecological impact of things: it's greenwashing, used by lobbyists to shill products that destroy the planet and get away with it

>>509031446
>im pandering to the people who hate and don’t believe me
Kinda restarted ngl

>>509031569
they are on the outskirts of cities
what happens when cities are growing

>>509023880
>can any climate change denier explain
You seem to be very intelligent and nuanced.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1040618213004345

Maybe our society is running with climate change as an excuse not to tackle (and even encourage) political and social aspect driving this collapse. I mean look at that paper. In the same move it shows climate change can indeed make civilizations collapse, it also tells us implicitly that climate change doesn't have to be man-made to happen.

I mean there is something collectively neurotic to the problem of climate change:

>Maybe our society is running with climate change as an excuse

Perhaps we're insisting that climate change is man-made as the necessary mental gymnastics that allows society to put blame on itself, which from the inside consists in one part of society putting blame on another part of society.

>>509019629 (OP)
Climate change is real.
The climate changes.
Do people cause that? No.
We do not cause temperature increases.
Scientists are used as tools for propaganda purposes to scare you about a 2°C increase in global average temperatures.
The Medieval Warm Period didn't have heavy industry with steam engines and petrochemicals, and it was 4°C warmer on average. They grew grapes in Scotland and made wine. In Scotland.
Not only is there nothing to worry about, the scientists and the media are trying desperately to make you scared of normalcy.

20 years ago we wouldn't get a national heat plan activation until it was 36°C with high humidity.
They declared one for 30°C and moderate humidity just today. But not because it's warm today, no, because it may be warm tomorrow. May be. We'll see. They overshot the forecast by 4 degrees a few weeks ago.

It's all fear uncertainty and doubt so you never get a chance to calm down and ask questions.
"You are to be kept afraid at all costs", thus spake the devil.

>>509019629 (OP)
No, its fake and gay.

>>509022460
I don't think it shifted.
I think it's just cooling down in general, and they're using tech to generate heat waves.
Microwave arrays beaming over the ocean can cause a cascading thermal effect where a lot of water is heated up and evaporated into the air, and because there's so much of it and because the heat is so much warmer than the air around it, it spins up a cyclone and then bursts eastward into Europe.

The reason I feel this is the case is that despite the fact it's June, despite the fact that summers are warm, the heatwaves we've had are only 30°C and the temperature after that was 10-13°C less.
Normally the heat lingers for a week, maybe two. Now it's gone as quickly as it showed up. That tells me it's unnatural.

>>509034139
>that second point
man these LLMs have mastered the art of conjuring up danger where it doesn't exist

>>509034485
the helmet is not spherical and it would bend inward towards the magnet on top of it. SPROOOITCH

Captcha: R0K0X.

>>509020171
Satanic inversions, anon.
CO2 is necessary for plant growth. Forests need it. Agriculture needs it.
It's been found that for optimal plant growth and plant health, the CO2 particles per million count needs to be around 2000ppm.
It's barely 430ppm now.
That means that technically speaking, there isn't enough CO2 in the atmosphere.

Now let's extrapolate this to the planet.
If more CO2 means more vegetation, that means there's more water being retained in the soil when it rains.
Whatever humidity is in the air gets trapped in forests and helps with local cloud formations, together with the puddles and little streams of water it will form as it condensates at night.
All in all, more CO2, more green.
That means an increase of CO2 will combat desertification.
Spain is heating up and getting much warmer in areas due to deforestation, and people blame lumber industries but that's incorrect. There's a CO2 shortage. That's why the forests don't grow back there.
And because the forests disappear, the water table dries out, the surface gets barren and the average temp goes up.
But increase the vegetation and the average temp goes DOWN.

So let's extrapolate that further.
More CO2 = more vegetation
Ergo if you increase CO2 levels in say, Africa, the Sahara will turn green.
That would have a dramatic effect on the average temperature of the continent.
Make it green enough, and the global average temperature comes down too.
But you can also do that for the Outback, the Gobi desert, Arabia, and so on.

In other words
TL;DR
CO2 causes global cooling and is good for the environment.
/science.
/Jews.
/devil.
/women.

>>509019629 (OP)
No one is paying kikes more money because of the weather faggot.

>>509021714
>words words words
yes, that's how /pol/ works, it's a pity your puny liberal mind will never comprehend it

>>509034848
Not sure about your reasoning but more reforestation is something surely anyone can agree on

>>509023880
>Also, can any climate change denier explain why there hasn't been a single normal winter for over 10 years now?
they've all been normal
the TV just keeps telling you they're abnormal and you keep believing it
simple as

>Climate change thread
>CTRL+F nuclear
>No results

>>509035405
Just sharing the love, anon.
Greenhouses already exploit this relation between plant growth and CO2 levels to optimise their output. They keep it at 1200ppm so workers don't get headaches.

>>509035405
Reforestation is retarded because it usually just means planting trees on agricultural land that hasn't been a forest in hundreds of years.

>>509035629
that's because nuclear power doesn't stop the systems of oppression that are the true cause of climate change

>>509030887
>winter 15 years ago
>-15
winter now
>-2

That isn't how seasons work, retard. I used to build snowmen when I was kid. Now we don't get enough snow to make a snowball.

>>509019838
One of the dumbest things I've ever read

>>509035716
When you actively plant trees, yes.
The point is that this is naturally occurring when CO2 goes up.
Look at that second bright side there, more lumber for IKEA.

>>509035804
and yet it's true
truth stands if one man proves it, and falls if one man disproves it
only lies need continuous mass reinforcement with "scientific consensus"
eppur si muove

>>509036000
Oil and gas companies were fully aware they were lying to you and still you simp for them

>>509019910
Anon, it's not about the climate. It's about destroying capitalism and whiteness.

>>509036232
oil and gas companies proved their claims true, and that's why they keep working in spite of all the hate thrown at them
you can't change objective reality, you can only kill yourself trying to, in your usual atheist religious frenzy

its irrelevent if people belive in climate change or not. climate is getting warmer and warmer and people feel it. its irrelevent to you normies because billioanres dont suffer from it. you are irrelevent.

>>509035596
>keeps telling you they're abnormal

We haven't had more than two consecutive days of snow for over a decade now and you're telling me this is normal?

I work with wildlife in my country, and the single biggest factor in overpopulation has been the effect of very mild winters.

>>509036595
The scary part is the teenagers weren't around when we had actual blizzards
Or enough insects that they would cover the windshield after a long drive
Or clouds of sparrows that make current numbers look empty

>>509036404
Yeah, leftists are gay and retarded. That doesn't change anything about the physics, though.

>>509036743
Yeah I'm not sure what's the point in violently denying manifest reality.

I'll say it again, my young cousins literally don't know what a blizzard is, they never sat on a snow sled, my even younger cousins haven't even seen snow.
The insect thing is another piece of proof of something being wrong. What other explanation would there be for it?

>>509036595
and it's all heliogenic, not anthropogenic
all life on Earth will die of global warming in 1.4 billion years max, maybe sooner if the Sun keeps putting out flares at its current level
then in another 3 billion years the sun will grow to a red giant and completely envelop Earth, and there won't even be cinders left to prove we ever existed

>literally no one factoring humidity in heat perception, only average temperature
Its like youre paid shills

>>509036923
>heliogenic


Then explain how there is a very noticeable change happening in just the last 20 years or so?

>>509036923
and just in case you forgot, entire centuries of "mild winters" are still normal, and even within recorded history

>>509036923
If we're still stuck here after all that time we deserve it
Far more likely something stupid we do wipes us out long before even a million years of civilization

>>509019629 (OP)
Ofc no, it's scientist who wants grants and they need panic so people will give them money
yes, the most obvious reason turned out to be true

>>509037129
yes, most likely the stupid thing we do is commit genocide in the name of "population control" because fanatical atheist religious zealots convince themselves they have a right and obligation to cull anyone who commits heresy against their various personality cults

>>509019629 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3i16zp2LeDA

>>509037072
see >>509037128

>>509037351
Regulations good

>>509035754
kek

Boomers have been saying "muh 1976 heatwave" for nearly 50 years now.

>>509036232
You can't get rid of fossil fuels and biomass without respecting the benefits that they provide and deploying technologies that replace them effectively. Solar and wind are retarded.

>>509037372
The MWP was not globally coherent at all, temperatures rose in Europe but places like the Pacific were cooler. This is nothing like the coherent and measurable rise in average temperature worldwide.

>>509037616
>Regulations good

>>509019629 (OP)
The climate has never been static and in relation to the last 450m years we are in a period of cooling compared to the average temperature.
The whole thing is a scam/grift to get people to pay more taxes and accept more shitskin migration.

their measurements were trash.
it's an inferno outside.
anyone denying this is a humongous homosexual.

>>509019629 (OP)
not man made climate change, but the climate changes. It was hotter on average globally during Jesus' time.

>>509034183
>and it was 4°C warmer on average.
And did you look into how that impacted nature and people's live?
>>509034848
Where are you getting all this horeshit from?
>>509035716
Doesn't mean it can't be a forest again

>>509039691
The agricultural land is its own ecosystem at this point. Making it a forest again would be retarded, even ignoring the fact that people need to eat food.

>>509040004
They don't need the food they just get fat and will be depopulated for the climate change retards anyway.

>>509039691
>did you look at how that impacted nature?
Yeah.
Grapes in Scotland.
>and people's lives?
Yep.
Scottish wine, 130 no-working holidays, siestas everywhere, and the beef got nice and fat from all the extra grass.

>where are you getting all this horseshit from?
History books, agricultural tech, actual science, ideas springing from the wealth of imagination and then proving them with research, concepts coming to me in a dream, basic chemistry, and God ultimately.
Those sources are more varied than most people's.

>>509040004
People need food for sure, but given that we might produce too much food and we can stand to eat less then I see no harm in turning farmland into forest. Even if agricultural land is an ecosystem it pales in comparison to the benefit a forest would bring.

>>509035757
Sure thing anon

>>509040121
>Grapes
Yes yes very nice but what about heatwave, droughts, harvest failures etc

>ideas springing from the wealth of imagination and then proving them with research, concepts coming to me in a dream, basic chemistry, and God ultimately.
Cool so you're making shit up, what are they putting in your weed?

The experts of "man made climate" are retards, they told us the stature of liberty would be snorkeling by now. None of their projections have come true. The climate is changing slowly just as God of the bible told us it would. Men will be scorched by the sun.

>>509040192
We underproduce food and import a lot of it. You're a retard.

>>509040316
>heatwaves, droughts, harvest failures
Nothing they don't struggle with today, and nothing they didn't struggle with before the warm period.
>cool so you're making shit up
I can appreciate how you spent that moment so carefully quoting selectively and then being so fucking shit at arguing that you still included doing research and basic chemistry as invalid sources.

>>509040474
How much food gets thrown away, how much food have you thrown away this week alone anon?

>>509040474
That is because we over produce and sell it to you cheaper thanks to the illegals.

>>509040506
Anon you literally included dreams and imagination as part of your sources, you bring no actual scientific article to the debate so why shouldn't I call you out for horeshit? You don't need to link articles that says plants need CO2 but where the hell are you getting the idea that we have too little CO2?

>>509040526
Most food waste is from large companies. I don't waste food because I have a high-tech piece of equipment called a fridge-freezer.

>>509040780
>Most food waste is from large companies
So we have more food then what we need which leads to a lot of it being thrown away, to make it worst it gets thrown away with all the other garage. It doesn't get separated so it can be used in a compost to produce high quality soil.
>because I have a high-tech piece of equipment called a fridge-freezer.
So you never had food in the fridge that started to mold? Dairy products that you had to throw because it started to sour?

>>509019629 (OP)
Climate change better reflects reality. It does not necessarily have to mean increased temperatures.
Nigga just look what's happening to winter, it's being slowly shifted towards summer. Haven't seen snow on Christmas in a decade if not more.

>>509040683
If that is true then why is the entire world planning over twice the fossil fuel consumption for AI projects?

>>509041054
>snow at Christmas
hotter temps would mean more precipitation, you aren't getting snow at christmas because people are manipulating the weather with cloud seeding to empty the clouds of H20.

>>509040953
>So we have more food then what we need which leads to a lot of it being thrown away, to make it worst it gets thrown away with all the other garage. It doesn't get separated so it can be used in a compost to produce high quality soil.
No we don't have too much food, we just have some losses during logistics.
>So you never had food in the fridge that started to mold? Dairy products that you had to throw because it started to sour?
No. Such is the magic of modern technology.

>>509041079
Because money and control

>>509019629 (OP)
REMINDER
>its an accepted historical/ scientific fact that the ancient Japanese people walked to their islands from a land bridge via Korea before sea levels rose
>the United Kingdom not only connected to Europe barely 10,000 years ago but there was an entire country/land called Doggerland that was lost due to rising sea levels
>it was warmer during the roman era than it is now
>all the cars and trucks on the planet still produce less CO2 (which makes up barely 0.04% of the atmosphere by the way) than all the animals and forest fires
The sun goes through solar cycles that last decades and the earth wobbles back and forth in the habital zone on the span of thousands of years

For gods sake AFRICA DIDN'T USE TO BE A DESERT
Climate change is a death cult of bullshit

>>509041079
Because nuclear power is a massive upfront investment and liberals are retarded.

>>509041248
They same people touting climate change and funding the research and advertising for it are the ones promoting these projects and saying we will eat bugs and live in pods.

>>509041219
Sure thing bro...

>>509041403
Just look up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAhOFUzQVZA

>>509041246
You're a liar then because even in the fridge and freezer food can go bad.
>>509041331
There is no money to be made in stopping climate change, there is no money to be made in telling people to eat less, drive less and consume less.

But more importantly why the hell do you people keep bringing up bugs and pods when talking about climate change? Nobody has said anything about living in pods and the only reason why they mentioned bugs is because it will have to be an alternate source of protein if we don't want start to change our views on the climate.

>>509042140
>hell do you people keep bringing up bugs and pods when talking about climate change?
I'm not the one bringing it up, have you never heard of the UN and the WEF?

>>509042140
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-qNZZrPzuLk

>>509042215
Nobody talked about pods or bugs until you bought it up, and people like you keep bringing it up whenever someone talks about climate change.

Yes I have heard about the UN and WEF, what about them?

>>509040683
Anon, you're arguing that because Isaac Newton was inspired by an apple falling from a tree, he was wrong to investigate the theory of gravity the way he did.
Tesla looked at natural phenomenon to figure out how to build his towers and his AC system.

Furthermore, the idea that we have too little CO2 comes from the scientific observation you can find in every greenhouse in the world that plants grow faster and bigger proportional to the CO2 ppm, with a soft cap at about 2000ppm.
I wrote that as "optimal at 2000ppm" in the big post and you didn't read that.
If plants stop growing quicker at a higher ppm, and don't grow as fast now, it logically follows that there's not enough CO2 in the atmosphere.
You don't need 20 studies to show that. Agricultural innovation already exploits that and has done for over 2 decades by now.

>>509042291
>Two different unrelated videos are mashed into one
WHAT DOES THIS PROVE?

>>509042140
>You're a liar then because even in the fridge and freezer food can go bad.
If you don't plan your meals when grocery shopping and never eat leftovers maybe lol
You're a retard to dismiss the importance of agriculture when we already import a lot of our food.

>>509042468
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AN0X1JUvE0

It proves that the rich and powerful should lead by example, and us poor folk aren't the cause of the problem.

>>509042371
Redpill me on the biplanes the dutch fly over farmlands to measure theCO2

>>509042371
Less talking more links, give me the scientific articles that you use to make your point.

>>509042523
>rich and powerful should lead by example,
Finally you say something sensible because NOTHING IN THAT VIDEO IS HELPING YOU PROVE YOUR FUCKING POINT BECAUSE HE DOESN'T EVEN MENTIONED BUGS OR PODS IN THAT ONE

>>509042669
You don't know that he is the one who said we would eat ze bugs? Don't make me look up the video

>>509019629 (OP)
Climate change is real in the sense that it's what the climate fucking does

>>509042669
The point I am trying to make is the ones who came up with the climate change, the one who are complaining the most about the fart, are the ones (Al Gore, Bernie Sander, Obama) are the ones creating the fart to begin with. They want to tax the average person more, while they fly around on private jets and own multiple mansions around the world.

>>509019629 (OP)
>Is climate change even real?

Yes it is.

>>509042924
Do it
>>509043259
You're not making a point, you're waisting time.

>>509044935
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaSZ_DDQjcM

>>509044935
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLzrxTljAas

>>509045941
>Can we
So they aren't saying "eat the bugs or die".klaus isn't even in that video
>>509045991
>Alex Jones
Thanks for waisting my time

>>509046166
Trump is our last chance for real freedom and prosperity, if we can't maintain Trump era policies we are headed for NWO and the opening of the 7 seals.

>>509019629 (OP)
> Is climate change even real?
Yes, and spoiler: it's going to get real cold, real quick.

>>509046553
>Trump is our last chance for real freedom and prosperity
nigger nigger nigger nigger

>>509044658
if the wealthy would be forced to give up all of their belongings, their buildings first, then sure.
curiously all of he is talking about only applies to the masses, not the 1%.

>>509046844
You were warned, and you earned what is to come.

>>509020983
From your article
>Most of the models accurately predicted recent global surface temperatures, which have risen approximately 0.9°C since 1970.
>>509020657
>picrel

So... then NO ACTUAL climate change
Temp went from +0.9 in 1940 to +0.3 in 1970 to +1.2 in 2020
The earth temp REGULARLY varies by 1 to 2 degrees
The fact that climate alarmists always choose rise from 1970 a low point in the cycle just shows their dishonesty
If 'man made climate change' is real, explain the 0.6 drop in temp from 1940 to 1970
Surely the booming coal plants, factories, and American gas guzzling auto's of the 50's and 60's didnt cause all that cooling, did they?