Why do Protestants reject the Word of God?

>>509024925 (OP)
Protestants are insufferable. They don't even like other Protestants.

funfact, St Peter's church was built in Antioch (modern day Turkey)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Saint_Peter

>>509024925 (OP)
reread that entire passage as if jesus was giving peter shit for being such an insufferable blowhard. because he was, it was jesus giving the ole banter to his boys.

>>509024925 (OP)
jews

>>509024925 (OP)
that's not the actual verse.

The rock Jesus was building the church on was the Peter's statement of faith, not Peter himself who He calls Satan shortly after, when Peter tries to rebuke Jesus when Jesus says He will be crucified and resurrect.

Did Jesus build the Church on Satan? No.

>>509024925 (OP)
They spend all their life protesting.

>>509025170
same thing with the passage before the crucifixion where the rooster crows three times. Jesus knew exactly what would happen with Peter, how corrupt and cowardly and aligned with power "the church*" would become under him.

*i put an asterisk because the real Church were the decentralized groups of mystics descended from the essenes who were stamped out under the bishops who encouraged martyrdom and tithing and finally dealt a death blow in the councils of bishops, the Nicean council and others

>>509024925 (OP)
that's not what the original says. the original employs a pun and says that 'you are a stone (pun on the name Petrus/Shimon), and on that stone will I build my church'.
other than that, it's made-up bullshit. jesus invited jews back to their religion because the end was nigh; he would not have worried about building a church org.

>>509025613
>oh yeah the cross of peter is upside down bc it's a symbol of faith ;-)
these demons hide in plain sight. once you begin to understand the language of symbols it becomes maddening, it's all out in the open. their hubris will be their downfall, as it always is with psychopaths

>>509025768
good to see someone else got it. these people have such a facebook memes at best view of the texts. the heretical as hell council of Nicea was such a mistake.

God made jews
God made niggers
God made women
God refuses all prayers unless you are a super special chosen goy.
God punishes those in pain and suffering with more pain and suffering if they attempt to seek relief.

God is pure evil.
Fuck you.
Fuck your God.

>>509024925 (OP)
Probably because 1 in 25 catholic priests has molested a child and the other 24 helped to cover it up.

>>509025832
in the Greek, Jesus calls Peter, Petros, a small pebble. He calls the rock He's going to build the church on petra, a giant boulder.
Peter was always teased as 'ye of little faith', so a small pebble.

>But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. (Matthew 16:23)
>Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. (Matthew 18:18-19)

The catholic church is nothing more than the pagans that glommed onto the Christian faith in 300s under Constatine who figure if you cant beat em join em

Pagans often worshipped in cemeteries and the catholic church was built on top of one.

Mystical relics, idols and contrived prayers all stem from the pagans

But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

>>509024925 (OP)
Why cant you finish the cathedral?

>>509024925 (OP)
Did you ever think that the book you worship was written by your enemies?
But sprinkled in some red pills as a means to undermine your ability to discern truth.

Go and wash the feet of the niggers you fucking faggot, you can join your fucking faggot Pope.

>>509024925 (OP)
because they are atheist

>>509025125
>funfact, St Peter's church was built in Antioch (modern day Turkey)
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Saint_Peter
The church of Antioch was never called the See of Peter.

I claimed St. Peter as my confirmation name. He is the Himmler of the Catholic Church. Can't wait for his welcome when I meet him at the gates in person.

>>509026105
its the roman SOL INVICTUS cult with extra paganry spackled on.

>>509026335
Meet him now, faggot.

>>509026324
>See of Peter
biblical verse?

Quotes from Church Fathers

https://www.churchfathers.org/origins-of-peter-as-pope

>>509026394
>SAAAAR!!!!
I am welcomed in heaven. Which by definition excludes your kind. Whenever it's my time I am ready.

>>509026440
>>See of Peter
>biblical verse?
There isn't any. Christian doctrine and history didn't originate from the bible and the bible doesn't contain all of Christian doctrine and history. It doesn't even mention the bible or say that scripture is the word of God.

Whats that got to do with anything, your quote?
You are just doing exactly the same thing that american evangelists do.
>here’s one line of text
Or
>here’s a couple
You can invent any message you like and then translate that it means anything you like that way, it’s heresy.

>>509026470
OP was addressing the "Word of God" thoughbeit

>>509025613
Correct. Cathobabbies don't understand this, they've been too brainwashed by listening to the gospel in Latin and trusting their "priest" blindly

>>509026470
>muh ishtar worship
>muh saints
>muh traditions
>muh church fathers
and this is how we ended up with the church importing nogs and having gay priests

>>509026730
>OP was addressing the "Word of God" thoughbeit
The Church Fathers explained it.

>>509026808
you're a jewboy

>>509024925 (OP)
he said it in the same way he said "He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it." when talking about his betrayer judas. I don't think he was condoning it, just uttering a statement of fact.

>>509026912
Yea that rock's in Antioch my friend
It's a rock church founded by St. Peter and probably the first christian temple where believers called themselves christian

>>509026931
says the kike slave who refuses to clear the jew jizz off his eyes. every catholic church I've been to growing up till now has had OBVIOUSLY HOMOSEXUAL PRIESTS and no one batted an eye. they hate whites and it was made to shackle us to a jewish mindset.

>>509024925 (OP)
>why do goyim from semitic sect 2(d) not agree with goyim from semitic sect 2(a)
Chad jews turning a man's household against him while they steal all of our money.

>>509025125
fun fact, the Bible was composed in Rome at the Council of Rome in AD 382

>>509026992
>Yea that rock's in Antioch my friend
Nope. No Church Father or council said that.

>>509027139
>fun fact, the Bible was composed in Rome at the Council of Rome in AD 382
No, tard, the books of scripture were canonized then and there.

>>509026742
the Church got corrupted when it became the official state religion of the Roman empire. it became more "Roman" than "Catholic"

>>509025040
This. It's hilarious because they're all heretics
>>509025170
Typical p*otestant cope, KJV is worth it's with in toilet paper. Read a real translation

>>509027432
>the Church got corrupted when it became the official state religion of the Roman empire.
No, that's a prot lie. No one in ancient times said that. God wants all nations to belong to his Church.

Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
[Matthew 28:19]

>>509024925 (OP)
Quoting Matthew16:18 like a magic talisman doesn’t turn Rome into the bedrock of Christendom. Read the whole sentence, then the rest of the Bible, and the papal claim evaporates.

Jesus says, “You are Petros (a small stone), and on this petra (a massive rock) I will build my Church.” The “rock” isn’t Peter himself, it’s the confession Peter just made: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God”. That truth is the unshakable foundation of the Church.
Two breaths later Jesus calls the same man “Satan” for blocking the cross (Matthew16:23). The “rock” is not an infallible Peter. Scripture explains itself:

>Christ is the cornerstone (1Corintians3:11; 1Peter2:4-8).
>The church is “built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets” together, Christ Himself the cornerstone (Ephesians2:20). No solo Roman monarch.
>The “keys” Peter receives in 16:19 are handed to every disciple in 18:18 and John20:23. Authority is shared stewardship, not a one‑seat throne.

When Peter drifts from the Gospel at Antioch, Paul “opposes him to his face” (Galatians2:11-14). That scene makes sense only if ultimate authority lies in the gospel itself, not in Peter’s chair. Acts15 shows a council guided by Scripture and the Spirit; James, not Peter, gives the final summary. The early bishops of Rome were respected, but not exalted. The idea of papal supremacy didn’t fall from heaven, it grew later through human politics and power struggles.
Protestants aren’t “rejecting” the Word of God. We’re reading all of it. The true Church is built on the confession that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, not on Peter’s title, not on Rome’s throne. If Peter was the first pope, nobody told the apostles.

The true Rock is the crucified‑and‑risen Christ. That’s the Rock. And it hasn’t moved.

>>509026488
This is heaven, dumbass. This is eden. You are treating this life as a waiting room, so if that's the case hurry up and die.

>>509027535
>KJV is worth it's with in toilet paper.
Its not all bad, its well written, it just has some errors of translation that reflect prot heresies. And it lacks seven books of the old testament.

>>509027362
>no mentioning of Rome
kek
You should up your reading comprehension btw:
OP adressed protestants, who only believe in the bible.

>>509027139
there's a difference between canonisation and composition. Both happened not on this date anyway

>>509026586
>The bible isn't the word of God
No wonder the papists have an infallible pope

>>509027635
>You are Petros (a small stone)
That's a prot lie from about 20 years ago.

https://www.catholicbridge.com/catholic/pope-peter-rock.php

>>509025940
Not even remotely close to true. Those numbers are extremely inflated and peddled the Jew run WASP media. It's far more prevalent among Protestants because of the multiple denominations and no central reporting body and the fact that most protestant churches are relatively self contained with the exception of larger denominations. Also you're more likely to get molested by a public school employees than a member of the clergy. Daycares are notorious for male and female pedos to work at as well. At least the ones who haven't been caught yet. Also, you're more lonely to be sexually assaulted by a Muslim or a Jew than but a Christian if any denomination. You can look at the numbers and how protestants obfuscate the fact their pastors are far more rapey. 1 in 10 protestants will leave the church over sexual abuse either be it as a victim or witness to how poorly it was handled and covered up

>>509027752
>>no mentioning of Rome
Tard, it mentions Pope Leo the bishop of Rome.

>>509027571
yes I'm sure God wanted repetitious prayers while using prayer counting beads and praying and prostrating yourself to statues.

>>509027723
Fair enough, I guess my issue is with how it's written because it seems to be focused on the sola scriptura aspect of protestantization of Christianity and they will die on that hill that there's literally nothing but black and white in the Bible and it also leaves out what we call the Magisterium which is the written and oral teachings of the Church

>>509027760
You can not be a papist and still not be a protestant

>>509027760
>>The bible isn't the word of God
I said scripture doesn't say that scripture is the word of God. The belief that scripture is the written word of God is from Catholic sacred tradition.

>>509025642
Protesting the false church of Rome, yes, the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth. But to "protestari" means to declare publicly. Protestants declare publicly that Jesus Christ is the LORD; that is what Christians have been doing since the first century AD.

>>509027723
The KJV has all of the deuterocanonical books and you can buy editions of it that include those if you search around. They're just commonly left out in modern editions.

>>509027895
well he was just one of the patriarchs within the equals of the pentarchy. Still prots don't believe in church fathers, sola scripture and such. Bringing a reference outside the scripture to convince a prot will just have you laughed at

>>509027957
>yes I'm sure God wanted repetitious prayers while using prayer counting beads and praying and prostrating yourself to statues.
He's not against it. And Jesus prayed repetitiously.

>>509027723
>>509028097
Original KJB table of contents

>>509027981
>it seems to be focused on the sola scriptura aspect of protestantization of Christianity
The KJV doesn't teach sola scriptura, protestantism itself do that.

>>509024925 (OP)
Catholics don't actually try and convert people, it's very caged, you need to be this, you need to do that.. etc.. Well, they never tried knocking at my door, i only get jo-hoes, muslims try and convert,

>>509025040
Just read the Bible and if some insane thoughts pop in your head then that's what God wants because you thought it while reading the Bible.

>>509027535
>KJV is worth it's with in toilet paper
It's one of the most influential and beautiful works of the English language. If you don't want to read it for theological reasons, that's your prerogative, but when you say bullshit like this you just sound like an idiot. Be a hardline apologist all you want, but try to retain some manner of sense while doing it, please, because you aren't helping your cause.

>>509028097
>The KJV has all of the deuterocanonical books and you can buy editions of it that include those if you search around. They're just commonly left out in modern editions.
The seven books were left out of the KJV from 1825 by the decision of British Bible Society.

>>509027849
The Greek text does matter, and no, it’s not a “20-year-old Protestant lie.” It’s been discussed since the early Church.

In Matthew 16:18, Jesus says: “You are Peter [Petros], and on this rock [petra] I will build My church.”
The words Petros (masculine) and petra (feminine) are different in form and in meaning. Petros was typically used for a stone or small rock, while petra meant bedrock, massive rock, or foundation. That’s not Protestant spin, it’s classical Greek.
Some argue that Jesus probably spoke Aramaic, where the word kepha would have been used for both. Maybe. But Matthew chose to write it in Greek under guidance of the Holy Spirit, and he deliberately used two different words.
Also, look at the context. Just a few verses later, Peter is rebuked as “Satan” for opposing the cross. Not exactly the foundation you want for the eternal Church. Peter himself never claims to be the foundation. He points to Jesus as the “chief cornerstone” (1Peter 2:6). Paul agrees: “No other foundation can be laid except Jesus Christ” (1Corinthians 3:11).

Even if you take “rock” as Peter, the early church didn’t treat him like a pope. In Acts 15, it’s James who gives the final decision, not Peter. Authority was shared, not centralized. So it’s not a “Protestant lie". It’s called reading Scripture carefully, in context, and not building a world empire on one verse. The true Rock of the Church is Christ Himself, immovable, eternal, and still standing.

Then what about Mark 8 and Luke 9?
The whole “You are Peter, and on this rock” line is missing.
Same event, same confession, but no mention of Peter receiving authority, keys, or a special position.
If Peter’s authority was truly the foundation of Christ’s Church, it’s strange that two of the three Synoptic Gospels leave it out completely. The only constant in all three accounts is Peter’s confession, “You are the Christ.” That’s the real rock.

>>509028617
There are multiple editions that include them that are currently published, it's not hard to acquire one.

Deuterocanonical is a misleading word. The books of the old testament that were originally written in Greek were always part of the sacred tradition of the Catholic Church. The authors of the new testament and the Church of the first century used the septuagint.

>>509024925 (OP)
We do
>you will know them by their works
You're in a pedophile cult and therefore not real Christians and will burn in hell for all eternity. Simple as.

>>509028869
No it's not, because there used to a be a common understanding, prior to the Council of Trent, that they were not canon in the same sense as the rest of the OT (that is, to be used as a source of doctrine), but canon in the sense that they were compiled with the other books as a source of edification. Not everyone agreed with this, but this stream of thought existed even at the highest ecclesiastical levels. This is what carried over into Protestantism. Example:

Cardinal Thomas Cajetan, Superior General of the Dominicans and papal legate to Augsburg to oppose Martin Luther, from his "Commentary on all the Authentic Historical Books of the Old Testament" (1532):

>Here we close our commentaries on the historical books of the Old Testament. For the rest (that is, Judith, Tobit, and the books of Maccabees) are counted by St. Jerome out of the canonical books, and are placed amongst the apocrypha, along with Wisdom and Ecciesiasticus, as is plain from the Prologus Galeatus. Nor be thou disturbed, like a raw scholar, if thou shouldest find anywhere, either in the sacred councils or the sacred doctors, these books reckoned as canonical. For the words as well of councils as of doctors are to be reduced to the correction of Jerome. Now, according to his judgment, in the epistle to the bishops Chromatius and Heliodorus, these books (and any other like books in the canon of the Bible) are not canonical, that is, not in the nature of a rule for confirming matters of faith. Yet, they may be called canonical, that is, in the nature of a rule for the edification of the faithful, as being received and authorised in the canon of the Bible for that purpose. By the help of this distinction thou mayest see thy way clearly through that which Augustine says, and what is written in the provincial council of Carthage.

>>509028759
>it’s not a “20-year-old Protestant lie.”
It is.
>It’s been discussed since the early Church.
The Church Fathers never said that Peter's name meant little stone.
> the early church didn’t treat him like a pope.
What is that supposed to mean? He had authority over the whole Church and was the bishop of Rome. He was the Roman pontiff. Roman pontiffs are popes. Popes are Roman pontiffs.
>The true Rock of the Church is Christ Himself
You are confusing the rock of salvation with the rock upon which Christ built the Church.

>>509028122
Jesus said don't use vain repetitions thinking all your repeating gets God's attention.

Jesus prayed 3x, not the 50+ hail marys that are in the Rosary.

and God in the Old Testament (Jesus) said not to make idols or bow before them.

>>509024925 (OP)
gross
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTBgYWFvsio

>>509028759
>Even if you take “rock” as Peter, the early church didn’t treat him like a pope.
That's like saying "Even if you take Jesus as Messiah and God, the Jews didn't treat him like Messiah and God."

>>509029178
>He had authority over the whole Church and was the bishop of Rome.

But before that he was the bishop of Antioch first.
So thats the foundation he built the church upon, the one church that knew no popes during his lifetime

>>509027957
There is nothing wrong with praying the rosary. People do it because they like praying to God and would like an organized, easy to remember, and traditional way to do it.

>>509024925 (OP)
did jesus ever use the words pope, bishop, or nun?
perhaps the church as it exists today is not the church that christ had envisioned.
man is fallible, the church--created by men--is therefore also fallible.
simple as.

>>509027865
Those numbers came from the vatican itself.

>>509029497
One does wonder that.

>>509029195
>Jesus said don't use vain repetitions thinking all your repeating gets God's attention.
No, he said "In praying, do not babble like the pagans, who think that they will be heard because of their many words."

Matthew 26:44 He left them and withdrew again and prayed a third time, saying the same thing again.

>>509024925 (OP)
Hello, i am God, and i'll clear this missunderstanding once for all on this 4chan post.
No the catholic church is not the true church of God, neither is any church on earth. There is only true christians, and fake christians, you either follow the path of the absolute truth, or you do not.
This verse is suppose to mean "People like you will be the true church."

>>509024925 (OP)
The Roman Catholic Church is the whore of Babylon.

>>509029811
The Church doesn't go back to Peter, it began with Constantine, a sun worshiper.

>>509029333
>But before that he was the bishop of Antioch first.
So what? He was the leader of the whole Church from its beginning when he was in Jerusalem.

"So thats the foundation he built the church upon"

No one said that.
Optatus
“You cannot deny that you are aware that in the city of Rome the episcopal chair was given first to Peter; the chair in which Peter sat, the same who was head—that is why he is also called Cephas [‘Rock’]—of all the apostles; the one chair in which unity is maintained by all” (The Schism of the Donatists 2:2 [A.D. 367]).


Pope Damasus I
“Likewise it is decreed . . . that it ought to be announced that . . . the holy Roman Church has not been placed at the forefront [of the churches] by the conciliar decisions of other churches, but has received the primacy by the evangelic voice of our Lord and Savior, who says: ‘You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it; and I will give to you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. . . . ’ [Matt. 16:18–19]. The first see, therefore, is that of Peter the apostle, that of the Roman Church, which has neither stain nor blemish nor anything like it” (Decree of Damasus 3 [A.D. 382]).


Jerome

“I follow no leader but Christ and join in communion with none but your blessedness [Pope Damasus I], that is, with the chair of Peter. I know that this is the rock on which the Church has been built. Whoever eats the Lamb outside this house is profane. Anyone who is not in the ark of Noah will perish when the flood prevails” (Letters 15:2 [A.D. 396]).

>>509029721
>No, he said "In praying, do not babble like the pagans, who think that they will be heard because of their many words."
That's why the priest tells you to say 50 Hail Mary's for penance after you confess, I guess.

>>509029881
The original Christian church has nothing to do with the Roman Catholic Church. Rome used to kill Christians.

>>509029811
>>509029881
>>509029927
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE WHORE OF BABYLON

WAKE UP PEOPLE

>>509029990
"And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it."
― Luke 11:27-28

>>509029811
>The Roman Catholic Church is the whore of Babylon.
No, that's Jerusalem.

Isaiah 1:21

“How she has become a prostitute, the faithful city, so upright! Justice used to lodge within her, but now, murderers.”

Ezekiel 16:2

“Son of man, make known to Jerusalem her abominations”

Revelation 11:8

“Their corpses will lie in the main street of the great city, which has the symbolic names “Sodom” and “Egypt,” where indeed their Lord was crucified.”

>>509030086
Catholicism is pagan.

>>509030132
The religion that Jesus taught.

>>509030132
The Roman Catholic Church is a pagan death cult with a Christian facade.

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>>509024925 (OP)
lol wtf makes you think Peter has anything to do with the demonic babylonic travesty that is the RCC?

>>509029178
>>509029310
Saying “Peter = pope” because his name means “rock” is like saying “Elijah = airplane” because he went up. It’s a leap, not a conclusion from the text.

Yes, Jesus calls him Petros, a stone, and says, “on this rock I will build My Church”. But two verses later, the supposed “first pope” gets called “Satan” for opposing the cross. That’s your infallible foundation?
Mark and Luke record the same conversation, yet leave out the “rock” line entirely. Why? Because the focus isn’t Peter, it’s his confession: “You are the Christ.” That’s the true foundation. Even Peter says so (1Peter 2:6-8).
And no, the early church did not treat Peter as a pope. In Acts 15, he speaks, but James gives the final ruling. In Galatians 2, Paul rebukes Peter to his face for hypocrisy. Try imagining Paul correcting a modern pope in public.
As for your “popes = Roman pontiffs = bishops of Rome” line, that’s just circular logic. The title "pope" wasn't used until centuries later, and early Church Fathers like Cyprian and Firmilian directly rejected the idea of Roman supremacy. They viewed all bishops as equals.

Lastly, comparing Peter to Jesus is just off. Jesus is the Son of God. Peter is a forgiven fisherman. No one denies he had a key role, but turning that into a world monarchy with infallibility and political power? That’s Rome’s invention, not Scripture’s teaching.
The Church is built on Christ, the confession of Him as Lord, not on any mortal man's title. That’s not Protestant spin. It's the Word of God.

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>>509025832
This. RCC is Thyatira, Jezebel, the Great Harlot Mystery Babylon.
> Go out from her, my people; that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues.

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>>509029913
>>No, he said "In praying, do not babble like the pagans, who think that they will be heard because of their many words."
>That's why the priest tells you to say 50 Hail Mary's for penance after you confess, I guess.
He doesn't. One at most. And the words of the rosary aren't babble or pagan. They are the Lord's prayer, the Hail Mary the first part of which has words from the greetings of Angel Gabriel's and Mary's cousin Elizabeth, and the Glory Be.

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>>509030242
Uh Jesus says Peter is the rock, therefore uh... that means that Peter's position is a perpetual singular office that passes down to different people linearly through all of history and that whoever has this office has authority over the entire church and can define dogma unilaterally and infallibly, duh! It's right there in the text!

>>509024925 (OP)
Orthodox Chad here.
Protestants are subhuman fucks, it's the equivalent of making your own religion with blackjack and hookers.
We don't take protestant heretics seriously here they work on Sundays and don't make the sign of the cross.
They are e heretic cult nothing else.

https://youtu.be/tcinnYW8Nzw?si=5Hp0GTVY7XyBuqtK&t=364

>>509030349
The Catholic clergy rape children and the Vatican covers it up. This is not a Christian church.

>>509024925 (OP)
Why don't they clean their buildings bros?

>>509030086
Wow, never noted that scripture before. Sounds like the very first attempt at incorporating Mary-worship, or pagan mother-worship, and Jesus set the matter straight nipping it right in the bud.
You really wonder how Catholics can continue to follow this Synagogue of Satan.

>>509024925 (OP)
>the Bible is literal
>except for this part where Jesus said that the bread was his body
Kek to the max

>>509025768
The real Church is Orthodox. You are a subhuman from the US, you have no idea what I'm talking about. Kill yourself heretic. You will never be Christian, pastors are not real Priests they are LARPING idiots.
Your entire "religion" is one big LARP.

>>509030445
>This is not a Christian church.
It's organized crime, it's a pagan death cult, and you think there is salvation in this false church of Rome?!

Jesus also called Peter as Satan

also

>Peter starts the church
>Romans kill christians for 200-300 centuries
>Roman steal christianity so that they can incorporate judaism to the empire
>Umm achyually the roman catholic church is the unbroken apostolic line

lol

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>>509030530
The Roman Catholic Church is the whore of Babylon.

>>509030445
>The Catholic clergy rape children and the Vatican covers it up.
Show it, jewboy.

>>509030445
The Catholics are still Christian while you are a hereticla faggot. Protestants are not even taken seriously, you're not Christian.
You don't get to make your own religion, your pastors are subhumans God will send you to Hell where you belong.
Eat shit.

>>509030401
>>509030523
>>509030633
I guess this is what happens when you drink the magic foot bone water (>>509030181) eh?

>>509030508
Uuhhh there are actually plenty of parables from Jesus that are clearly not literal. He wasn't talking about actual shepherding work or actually weeding wheat fields, duhh

>>509028058
>We faggot-worshiping wallkissers are the original christians! Heil Netanyahu!
No. You will burn with all the other Satanists.

>>509030579
>The Roman Catholic Church is the whore of Babylon.
Why are you covering for Jerusalem? Which city killed the prophets and Christ?

Isaiah 1:21

“How she has become a prostitute, the faithful city, so upright! Justice used to lodge within her, but now, murderers.”

Ezekiel 16:2

“Son of man, make known to Jerusalem her abominations”

Revelation 11:8

“Their corpses will lie in the main street of the great city, which has the symbolic names “Sodom” and “Egypt,” where indeed their Lord was crucified.”

>>509030776
What happens when you make your own religion and start respecting only whatever you want from the Bible?
You become a Protestant cuck, none of your "priests" or pastors or whatever you call those pedophiles have any divine authority.
You're not Christian. I respect a Catholic 1000 times more than a Protestant traitor.
We should burn your kind on the pyre again.

>>509025040
Just like western "communists". The thing they hate most in the world are other communists. They're all fascists, they say. Literally Hitler, basically.

>>509030535
>Jesus also called Peter as Satan
He named him Kephas which means Rock.


>Peter starts the church
Nope. Jesus built his Church upon Peter.
>Romans kill christians for 200-300 centuries
Jews and pagan Romans.
>Roman steal christianity so that they can incorporate judaism to the empire
Nope. The Romans converted to Christianity and never adopted judaism which is anti Christian like you, jewboy.

>>509030945
>We should burn your kind on the pyre again.
One of my favorite examples from Orthodox history is the transition from the Old Rite in Russia. The patriarch at the time in the 1600s sent representatives to Greece to see if the current Russian rite was in accordance with theirs, and found that the Russian form was different and thus must be wrong (for example Greeks did the sign of the cross in a different way, the way you do it now), so they changed the rite in Russia and heavily persecuted anyone who opposed this, including burning them alive. However history shows the Greek rite was actually a novelty and the Russians were following the older form the entire time. Pretty funny stuff!

>>509031139
> Burning people alive because they signed the cross wrong
> Burning people alive because they translated the Bible into the common tongue
> b-b-but we're the Christian authority in the world
> t-t-trust me Jesus built our Church on P-Peter
loool how anybody can be so retarded as to follow any of these demonic babylonic churches.

Reminder: Orthodoxy is the real Church we have the most intense and unforgiving rituals you either kneel in front of God or get the fuck out of the church and never return.
This being said Carholic cucks who sit on their asses in Church and use their mommy's credit card to get into Heaven are 1000 times more Christian than Protestants.
Protestcucks are so removed from Christianity they have nothing to do with it we should bring back the Inquisition and burn them at the stake.

Protestants die God laughs. You'll never make it into the Kingdom of Heaven no matter what you do, convert to Orthodoxy or die like the scum you are.

>>509031350
> we're sick-minded, sadomasochistic flagellants
> this means we're the true religion
Slavs and gypsies are so deranged lol

>>509031350
thinking Orthodox have the coolest aesthetics doesn't make it true.

>>509031421
Protestant cuck detected. All your "pastors" they couldn't call themselves priests because they knew they were fake are subhuman LARP-ers.
If you listen to any one of them you go directly to hell. Only the Orthodox and Catholic Churches are children of God.
You are a subhuman and will go directly to Hell, too bad we never killed your kind for your fake beliefs. We should have we would've treate you way worse than Catholics did as they have always been pussies.

>>509031421
Orthodox are the only Christians worthy of respect. You're a fat, opportunistic servant of the Jews. No morals, no values, no soul. You will burn with them on judgement day.

>>509031583
baaahahaha do you think that any of your twisted, demonic rants have any impact on me, you filthy Canaanite rat?
By all means, continue to worship your sick, twisted blood-demon in your vile Synagogue of Satan, but know that I laugh about your pathetic rituals and pity you for your lost soul.

>>509031350
>This being said Carholic cucks who sit on their asses in Church and use their mommy's credit card to get into Heaven are 1000 times more Christian than Protestants.
In the past (1500 through 1700s) the Orthodox used to sell "absolution certificates" in which you could pay the bishop to give you a written absolution of your sins, without any need for confession of penance. This was upheld by the Constantinople Council (1727) and confirmed by the patriarchs of Jerusalem, Antioch, and Constantinople to be the ancient tradition of the church, reading "The power of the forgiveness of sins, which is termed by the Eastern Church of Christ Absolution Certificates when given in writing, but by the Latins Indulgences, is given to the Holy Church by Christ. These Absolution Certificates are issued in the whole Catholic Church by the four most holy Patriarchs: Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch, and Jerusalem."

>>509031673
Your fiery blood-demon god has no power over me. I serve Christ, not demon-summoning Canaanite scum.

catholizism has nothing to do with peter...

riddle me this, when the bible says "forbidding to marry is demonic", why are catholic priests forbidden to marry? and why do they wear a kippa or dagon hat or whatever when the bible says man are not to cover their head while praying?

>>509031470
Our rituals are the coolest and most aesthetic because they resemble the rituals of Old Christianity.
Nobody sits in Church except the old and disabled, you have to kneel in front of God.
There are no credit card salvations the priest will tell you to your face you're going to hell.
There are no pastor heretical subhumans, you either are a priest appointed by the Church or you go to prison.

You want salvation join Orthodoxy or Catholicism and ignore the Pope when he says gay marriage is ok.

>>509031820
>There are no credit card salvations the priest will tell you to your face you're going to hell.
The Orthodox Church LITERALLY sold forgiveness of sins called "absolution certificates" in the past.

>>509024925 (OP)

>>509030849
What are you talking about? I don't defend the synagogue of Satan or Net 'n' Yahoo.
Roman Catholic rage proves that truth is already lost with you.
You don’t defend Christ by spewing that hatred against Christians who believe in His word, you prove you don’t know Him.

If you knew Jesus, you would speak like Him, not like a Twitter demon.
You're not warning about hell, you are running towards it.
Repent before it’s too late.

>>509031682
That has been dismissed as the failings of human beings, unlike Catholics we don't have a human that is infailible.
Seethe more protestcuck you'll go straight to hell either way.

>>509031723
You have no right to speak the name of Christ, you blood-drinking wall kisser. You are cursed by god. Your bloodline ends with you.

Reminder that Orthodox believe that when you die, your soul ascends into the sky to be accosted by demons at various "toll-houses". The demons list your sins and you have to pay off the demons with your good deeds, and if you can't then the demons drag you to hell.

>>509031981
>I-it doesn't matter when we do it because we're fallible and engage in horrific heresies sometimes okay!!!
LOL

>>509024925 (OP)
Protestants never offered indulgences.
>As soon as a coin in the coffer rings, a soul from purgatory springs
>>509025040
Anglicans aren't protestants. They are Catholics but the pope was replaced with the King of England. You are correct to hate their guts.

>>509031856
You literally suck my dick ITT. As I've said humans are wicked and sin.
It doesn't happen anymore meanwhile Protestants have always been heretical faggot cucks. All of you went to hell from the beginning to the end I bet that makes you seethe.

>>509027535
You are a heretic. You have not consumed the Eucharist. The bread and wine you eat is neither the body nor blood of Christ. For 1700 years, Christ has been hidden from you.

>>509032110
What matters about the absolution certificate issue is that you held a council in which numerous patriarchs confirmed it to be the ancient tradition of the church, when it was made-up bullshit. That's what your religion is, a bunch of made-up nonsense that's accumulated over time and that you just tell each other is the ancient practice when it isn't at all. Your "traditions" aren't anything more than that.

>>509027535
Catholics aren't even heretics at this point, just outright pagans.

>>509032041
>no argument
We don't take people seriously when they decide to make their own Christianity.
Your gay shit is over, it doesn't matter how many people decide this. You will never be taken seriously in Eastern Europe. You will always be a subhuman. You will always be a heretic.
You will go to hell no matter what. Enjoy your last days pleb you betrayed God.

>>509032263
>You will never be taken seriously in Eastern Europe.
>t.

>>509031989
> angry seething demonic rants
You sound very angry. Maybe you should actually read the Bible?

>>509032229
The Church is the only Church and always will be. We respect the Church of Old.
You're a bunch of heretical subhumans who decided to make your own church with your idiotic beliefs
Shut the fuck up heretic.

>>509029892
>So what? He was the leader of the whole Church from its beginning when he was in Jerusalem.

So that defeats your entire argument of any kind of exclusivity that you falsely attest to the church of Rome. Congratulations you just refuted yourself

>>509032110
>You literally suck my dick ITT
It's incredible listening to the demon-worshippers in blood-cults ITT cursing and swearing away like deranged, angry devils, claiming to have anything to do with the body of Christ.
Oh well, Mystery Babylon falling soon, and I can't wait to see all these people cry and lament and gnash their teeth.

>>509032333
Go worship your pedo pastors shit eater.
Tehy'll never be Priests or have any authority lmao. Any subhuman that can read can become a pastor.

>>509032395
>We respect the Church of Old.
No you don't. The early church condemned prayers to images and this was only incorporated after the mass pagan influx after the legalization of Christianity. Later you defined that anyone who rejects prayers to images is anathema.

>>509032448
>I might have made my own heretical religion of apostates, but you swore so that makes you bad
Kek, you dumb fuck. Enjoy hell for eternity.

Protestantism: 98% old white people praying to God

Catholicism: 98% brown subhuman goblins praying to random inanimate objects like cards, coins and candles.

Aren’t there like 40,000 saints now? Because you have to pretend every retarded brown third world retard has magical things that happened to them. Thanks I think I’ll pass on Catholicism.

>>509032515
Shut the FUCK up you apostste heretic protestant. I will burn you at the pyre in the name of God. May your sould be clensed of your wicked ways.

>>509032554
Unlike you, my authority are the words of Jesus, and not your
> made up heretical religion of apostates
You see, Jesus says in Matthew 5 that insulting and swearing people will make you end up in the Lake of Fire.
Jesus said that.
Jesus.
Do you know Jesus?
You do not, I assure you.

>>509032652
Didn't read. Kill yourself apostate scum before I get my hands on you.

>>509032628
You always pick on Catholicism because it's easy. Any time Orthodoxy gets involved you get shit on and exposed for the apostate heretical loser you are.
Your church means nothing it's fake and not Christians. Your pastors are not priests they are larping idiots.
Your kind should be killed in the name of God frankly.

>>509032628
> Saints
The creepiest part about Catholicism is that they have like a
> Patron Saint
for every single job, task, hobby, color and element.
> St. Drogo – Patron saint of coffee house owners and unattractive people.
> St. Lawrence – Patron saint of chefs and comedians
> St. Polycarp – Patron saint of earaches.
> St. Benedict – Patron saint of spelunkers
> St. Nicholas of Tolentino – Patron saint of vegetarians
It gets worse though, because Catholics are admonished to actually pray to these "Saints", in effect turning the Catholic Church into a polytheistic pantheon reminiscent of .... oh, would you look at that... Pagan Rome!!

>>509032630
Epiphanius (d. 403), Bishop of Salamis, to John, Bishop of Jerusalem (also an Orthodox Saint):

"I came to a villa called Anablatha and, as I was passing, saw a lamp burning there. Asking what place it was, and learning it to be a church, I went in to pray, and found there a curtain hanging on the doors of the said church, dyed and embroidered. It bore an image either of Christ or of one of the saints; I do not rightly remember whose the image was. Seeing this, and being loth that an image of a man should be hung up in Christ's church contrary to the teaching of the Scriptures, I tore it asunder and advised the custodians of the place to use it as a winding sheet for some poor person. They, however, murmured, and said that if I made up my mind to tear it, it was only fair that I should give them another curtain in its place. As soon as I heard this, I promised that I would give one, and said that I would send it at once. ... I have now sent the best that I could find, and I beg that you will order the presbyter of the place to take the curtain which I have sent from the hands of the Reader, and that you will afterwards give directions that curtains of the other sort — opposed as they are to our religion — shall not be hung up in any church of Christ. A man of your uprightness should be careful to remove an occasion of offense unworthy alike of the Church of Christ and of those Christians who are committed to your charge."

>>509032826
It's not weird at all. You're just an apostate subhuman who feels like he has to disagree with the Church at every step.
You demonic rat.

>>509032688
You people are just MAD. If the truth was with you, you wouldn't be this mad.
>Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
>Come out of her, my people

>>509032688
> before I get my hands on you.
baaaahahahahaha I fear not those who kill the body.
I look forward to posting posts of joy when your filthy Harlot is being burnt in fire and her flesh consumed by the Wild Beast!
You will cower in fear, but I will raise my head up high and celebrate, for my salvation is at hand!

>>509032909
> literally no argument
Polytheist.

Augustine, On Baptism 2.3.4

"But who can fail to be aware that the sacred canon of Scripture, both of the Old and New Testament, is confined within its own limits, and that it stands so absolutely in a superior position to all later letters of the bishops, that about it we can hold no manner of doubt or disputation whether what is confessedly contained in it is right and true; but that all the letters of bishops which have been written, or are being written, since the closing of the canon, are liable to be refuted if there be anything contained in them which strays from the truth, either by the discourse of some one who happens to be wiser in the matter than themselves, or by the weightier authority and more learned experience of other bishops, by the authority of Councils; and further, that the Councils themselves, which are held in the several districts and provinces, must yield, beyond all possibility of doubt, to the authority of plenary Councils which are formed for the whole Christian world; and that even of the plenary Councils, the earlier are often corrected by those which follow them, when, by some actual experiment, things are brought to light which were before concealed, and that is known which previously lay hid ..."

>>509032927
Why would you alter that image if the original reeks of demonism itself?
I really don't understand why one would fake this image.

>>509032886
Didn't read, I don't argue with demonic subhumans pretending to be Christians.
Your LARP is over if Catholics are too pussy to deal with you we will.
Come here it's been a long time since we burned apostates alive you might just he the next one. You die, God laughs.

>>509033020
>I won't read the words of one of my own saints
Very pious of you

>>509027635
Unbeliving scum think that the church is some kike building full of pedophiles.

>>509032929
If I'm burning the only way you see me is from the other pot, you subhuman Protestant rat. It's been confirmed you'll never see Heaven what do you heretics even live for.

>>509033047
Saints aren't infailible only God is. You'd have known this but you are a Protestsant therefore far removed from any form of Christianity. Die already so you can go to hell you're just prolonging your own suffering.

>>509033230
So he was stating an abominable heresy then?

>>509024925 (OP)
>Why do Protestants reject the Word of God?
Because they could't understand Latin and the clerigy class proved itself unworthy of preaching gospels when they began pardoning sinners in exchange for materialistic gains

If your favourite restaurant is closing down due toa shit service don't blame the paying customers, blame the personel instead

I ain't even a Christkike and even i can tell this

>>509024925 (OP)
u telling me u believe this whole church stands on some guy's shoulders and he's holding it? lmao christcucks are fucking retarded

>>509024925 (OP)
We don't. Please show us the verse where Jesus approves a "Pope" of a church that does all the pagan rituals that Jesus disapproved of.

You Catholics took a simple, single verse and turned it into 1000 things that directly go against Christ's teachings.
Just like you guys turned Mary into a Goddess despite Jesus making it very clear that she was merely a woman (and not even a sinless one!)

Catholicism has always been paganism with Christian names

>>509033062
Whatever that spirit is that is talking out of you people, it isn't the Holy Spirit.

>>509033321
Your religion is an abominable heresy. Either join one of the 2 Christian denominations or die as an apostate.
You have been warned.

>>509027635
> Quoting Matthew16:18 like a magic talisman
Everything for the RCC and ROC is treated like a talisman.
> Signing the cross actively wards off evil spirits.
> Wearing a cross passively wards off evil spirits
> Having a cross in your home protects your home from evil spirits
> Confessing your sins then repeatedly reciting a magical formula makes you immune to consequences
> Praying to the right pagan subgods of the Pantheon gives you good luck at hunting or fishing
> Have a chain of magic balls that unleashes the power of a faith-infused prayer each time you pass a bead through your fingers

For anybody who is an actual, Bible-based Christian who is not in the Church of Thyatira it is obviously clear that these people are in a pagan magick cult. Sadly, they are so blinded by their stupid traditions that they refuse to accept Christ's invitation to serve God instead of men.

>>509033586
>Catholicism is one of the valid traditions
>Catholicism officially recognizes Protestants as Christians and brothers in Christ

>>509033586
> Either worship one of the two major demons of Thyatira, or die as an opposer of those blood-cults
> You have been warned.
And your "warning" has been duly noted.

>>509033704
The guy is clearly deranged, possibly even a bonafide case of modern-day demon possession.

>>509033701
Ever heard of the brown scapular? It's a piece of cloth, and if you wear it then when you die and go to Purgatory, Mary will rescue you from Purgatory on the first Saturday after your death. Catholics used to believe this literally and viewed purgatory as taking place in linear time. Pure superstitious magical nonsense.

>>509028759

>>509024925 (OP)

Peter wasn't Catholic. Catholics have usurped every idol and image their whore church can amass and it displays its scarlet abomination as though it were something to be admired the world over.

>>509033561
Maybe you should read what church means in the bible instead of constructing some kiked up delusion in your feeble mind while you larp as some kind of holier than thou type of retard online.
The catholic church of satan is a pedophile kike church of demons thats why they are addicted to hoarding money and ass raping little boys like their favourite jews children of the devil

>>509033704
>Catholics believe heretical fuckers who started their own religion while the Church exists are brothers in Christ
Never happened and if it did they are also heretics.

>>509033860
No I haven't, but thanks it's going in my collection.
I'm collecting material for a modern-day Hexenhammer 2.0 book exposing all the witchcraft in the churches.

>>509029811
Jerusalem is the Whore of Babylon. The Pope is the vicar of theology married to Roman political power, not Christ.

>>509034012
Catechism of the Catholic Church:

818 "However, one cannot charge with the sin of the separation those who at present are born into these communities [that resulted from such separation] and in them are brought up in the faith of Christ, and the Catholic Church accepts them with respect and affection as brothers .... All who have been justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord by the children of the Catholic Church."

819 "Furthermore, many elements of sanctification and of truth" are found outside the visible confines of the Catholic Church: "the written Word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope, and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, as well as visible elements." Christ's Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities as means of salvation, whose power derives from the fullness of grace and truth that Christ has entrusted to the Catholic Church. All these blessings come from Christ and lead to him, and are in themselves calls to "Catholic unity."

https://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P29.HTM

>>509024925 (OP)
Kill all catholic anti abortion nigger lovers

>>509033860
>Brown scapular
>Pure superstitious magical nonsense

But the rest of the bible is le totally real and le super based...


>talking snake
>talking donkey
>Eve made from rib
>Earth approx 6000 years old
>Dead reanimate and enter Jerusalem
>flying chariot
>water to wine
>muh foreskin fixation
>sticks to snakes
>muh pillar of salt
>rainbows didn't exist before flood
>Noah was 950 yrs old, Adam lived to 930

.
.
.

That's a métaphore. Jesus wasn't a Christian also he said no to make temples in his name. Therefore Christianity is not what Jesus taught

>>509034504
> the rest of the Bible
This black magick nonsense isn't in the Bible, that's the point you noob

>>509024925 (OP)
>Why do Protestants reject the Word of God?

Why do you ignore the context, and conveniently ignore that Jesus called him Satan a few verses later when he expressed doubt about Jesus's mission?

When Peter recognized Jesus was the messiah without being told, Jesus referred to Peter by another name "Simon Barjona" Simon means hearing/understanding, Barjona means son of the prophet Jonah. Jesus was saying that his church would be built on the qualities of mind reflected in his current state.

>>509033999
I guess I just misinterpreted your post. Sorry.

I'm not Roman Catholic, and you are correct. I agree. It is the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth, as I read in scripture.

>>509025940
Shouldn't you be concerned with your pakis who taped 1 million of your working class children?

>>509035050
You're not better uk faggot

Brown rapists rule you

>>509034871
>>509033999
Anons, if you're into studying God's word, I recommend taking a look at the interesting parallels between
> Babylon The Great Harlot
> The Church of Thyatira in Revelation
> The origin, life and death of Queen Jezebel
and by extension
> The Catholic Church
Enjoy

>>509032785
There is church leadership position of "priest" given in either the New Testament or the Didache. According to Scripture, which most Orthodox and Catholics I know are completely ignorant of, the only two offices in a church are deacon and bishop. The word bishop in Scripture in the greek ἐπίσκοπος or episkopos.

ἐπίσκοπος, -ου, ὁ, (ἐπισκέπτομαι), an overseer, a man charged with the duty of seeing that things to be done by others are done rightly, any curator, guardian, or superintendent

Furthermore, According to Paul's epistle to Timothy, the Bishop is supposed to be the husband of one wife, whose children are in subjection to him, in other words his family respects him. We know for a fact that this is a requirement. It is literally in Scripture. The New Testament knows no Pope, and no priests - except that Jesus is ou high priest and every believer is a priest.

The papist invention of elevating one man to be the vicar of Christ on earth is blasphemy. The Lord Jesus Christ did not promise a Pope, he promised the Holy Spirit.

Vicar - from Latin vicarius "a substitute, deputy, proxy," noun use of adjective vicarius "substituted, delegated," from vicis "change, interchange, succession; a place, position" (from PIE root *weik- (2) "to bend, to wind"). From late 14c. also "one designated as earthly representative of God or Christ," especially the Pope.

When someone shows me a the use of the word Pope or office of Pope or priest in the New Testament or new covenant, then you will have my undivided attention. But you won't because you can't. If anything, James was the first "pope" because he led the Church in Jerusalem and his word seemed to be final.

>>509027865
You forgot to mention that Rabbis molest at 16x the rate of priests.
>Orthodox priests: Basically none
>Catholic Priests: Some
>Protestant Pastors: Holy shit
>School Teachers: You just know...
>Rabbis: Pre-rape your kids to save time

>>509029495
repetitive prayers and prayer counting beads are pagan practices, buddhists do it.

>>509029721
I get that the traditional Catholic defense for their vain repetitive prayers is that they claim Jesus was telling them not to do repetitive prayers to false gods.
But Jesus was speaking to Jewish people who worshiped the true God.
so no it's not a case of "don't do the false repetitive prayers but do the true repetitive prayer!"
the rationale Jesus gave against doing repetitive scripted, memorized prayers, is that people thought that repeating the prayer over and over from memory would get God's attention, it doesn't, He heard you the first time.

>>509035503
>the only two offices in a church are deacon and bishop. The word bishop in Scripture in the greek ἐπίσκοπος or episkopos.

>And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; Ephesians 4:11

>And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you [προεστόμενοι] in the Lord, and admonish you; 1Thessalonians 5:12

> And from Miletus he sent to Ephesus, and called the elders [πρεσβύτερος] of the church. Acts 20:17

>priest
>From Middle English prest, preest, from Old English prēost (“priest”), from Late Latin presbyter, from Ancient Greek πρεσβύτερος (presbúteros),

Don't blame the church for something that must be blamed on your english translation...

>>509025613
Exactly this

>>509024925 (OP)
How many indulgence did the church have to sell to pay for that cathedral?

>>509025613
Late, but here you go...

That's a misinterpretation.

>“In this same period of my priesthood, I also wrote a book against a letter of Donatus ... In a passage in this book, I said about the Apostle Peter: ‘On him as on a rock the Church was built.’... But I know that very frequently at a later time, I so explained what the Lord said: ‘Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church,’ that it be understood as built upon Him whom Peter confessed saying: ‘Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God,’ and so Peter, called after this rock, represented the person of the Church which is built upon this rock, and has received ‘the keys of the kingdom of heaven.’ For, ‘Thou art Peter’ and not ‘Thou art the rock’ was said to him. But ‘the rock was Christ,’ in confessing whom as also the whole Church confesses, Simon was called Peter.”—The Fathers of the Church—Saint Augustine, the Retractations(Washington,D.C.; 1968), translated by Mary I. Bogan, Book I, p. 90.

>>509025613
>>509024925 (OP)
Peter is just part of the foundation, not THE ROCK himself. Jesus is the foundation cornerstone.

>(Ephesians 2:19-22)... 20and YOU have been built up upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, while Christ Jesus himself is the foundation cornerstone. 21In union with him the whole building, being harmoniously joined together, is growing into a holy temple for Jehovah. 22In union with him YOU, too, are being built up together into a place for God to inhabit by spirit.

Peter is EQUAL to the other apostles as a foundation stone. He has no superiority over them.

>(Revelation 21:14) The wall of the city also had twelve foundation stones, and on them the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

Peter HIMSELF identified the rock mass as Christ himself.

>(1 Peter 2:4-8) Coming to him as to a living stone, rejected, it is true, by men, but chosen, precious, with God, 5YOU yourselves also as living stones are being built up a spiritual house for the purpose of a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6For it is contained in Scripture: “Look! I am laying in Zion a stone, chosen, a foundation cornerstone, precious; and no one exercising faith in it will by any means come to disappointment.” 7It is to YOU, therefore, that he is precious, because YOU are believers; but to those not believing, “the identical stone that the builders rejected has become [the] head of [the] corner,” 8and “a stone of stumbling and a rock-mass of offense.” These are stumbling because they are disobedient to the word. To this very end they were also appointed.

>(1 Corinthians 10:4) and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they used to drink from the spiritual rock-mass that followed them, and that rock-mass meant the Christ.

The entire Bible identifies Jesus as the rock-mass and the cornerstone of the Church. Not Peter.

>>509027535
fuck you SOL INVICTUS CULT NIGGER go pray more to mary the goddess/ishtar like a kike.
I learned that from completely different cath priests and an orthodox priest. youre just a fucking retard who cant read.

>>509033062
find me a catholic church without a faggot priest in it. you will never be able to do it. its a beast of revelation that speaks blasphemies.

>>509028759
>The Greek text does matter
DO YOU SERIOUSLY EXPECT CATHOLICS TO READ ANYTHING FOR THEMSELVES?

EVER?
>DUUUUUUH WE GOT THE PRIEST TO FIGURE THINGS OUT FOR US!!! PRAY THE ROASTARY!!! TRADITIONS!!

>>509030132
I wish it was pagan

>>509028109
since when the fuck do catholics belive in sola scriptura? they hate the bible like they hate thinking for themselves.
>MUH PRIEST IS INFALLIBLE, I LEARNED THAT IN CATACHISM AS A KID!!!

>>509030335
its paganism and youre going to hell for it.
>>509030945
>What happens when you make your own religion and start respecting only whatever you want from the Bible?
like when Constantine rebranded the SOL INVICTUS cult as roman Catholicism, down to the prayers to the goddess?
>>509033020
>Didn't read
as expect of a gypsy.
>>509033455
its Italian voodoo. its what the nogs did with voodoo.

>>509038109
προεστόμενοι is an elder, which is not anything like a modern Catholic priest. It is translated as elder, and it means elder - regardless of the etymology of the current word priest. If a priest is actually an elder, why are there so many 20 something year old priests running around?

>>509025613
What's funny is if you actually look at Early Church Fathers who are canonized Saints, Like Saint Augustine, Saint John Chrysostom, etc. - they all say the same thing.

Catholics can only do nigger babble mental gymnastics and read into this verse things that aren't there

>>509039886
Cope

https://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2007/03/augustine-on-matthew-1618.html?m=1

>>509044018
I'm not clicking on strange links. Quote the information yourself.

>>509024925 (OP)
>of god not of man.
The confession that Jesus is the Christ is the acknowledgement that salvation is of GOD. Which means when Jesus said this to Peter, he wasn’t advocating for religious clergy or religion at all, because Jesus literally did all of that crap for you. He essentially simplified the entire thing for you. Only apostates have a hard time grasping this because they think the Bible is asking them to do something other than believe and because of that it appeals to their ego, wield the law like narcissistic hypocrites and would put believers to death for simply relying on what Jesus did to save them.

The body of Christ is the church, the church is not a building. Anyone who simply BELIEVES the gospel is a part of the church. Not one of us is perfect aside from Jesus, God incarnate himself. To suggest that you can lose your salvation or that God’s gonna break your ass open for doing bad things after the fact, is to be completely relying on yourself and blasphemously insinuating that either you are the Christ, or that somehow your sins can overtake God’s blood. Inherent lack of faith. I’m not a Protestant, I’m not a Catholic. I’m just not going to play this stupid D&C game is all!


It’s not a religion. Religion isn’t required to be saved. So you should expect Satan to use religion to obscure the most simplistic shit you will ever encounter.
Jesus put sin to death in the flesh, so the only way you’re going to heaven is by believing what he did to mean you’re going to heaven. God is looking for a mindful acknowledgement to wipe your conscience. The law can only condemn you, and religion will use it to make you labor for kikes. Ignore the tards telling you “you can’t sin” as if you didn’t and haven’t already and as far as the law is concerned you’re supposed to count yourself dead to it having believed the gospel. Let alone 1 sin sending you to hell because it’s a perfect fucking law, fucking sociopaths.

>>509024925 (OP)
I think Protestantism is goofy and retarded too but they didn't have internet to figure out most of this stuff for a while. That said, the Gates of Hell prevailed with Vatican II so you are required to sort of play fast and loose with head canon to continue believing this stuff.

>>509025613
>>509039932
>not Peter himself

Peter literaly means "the rock", you retarded nigger