Spaniards are white.
Italians are shitskin.
Spaniards should have genocided the shitalians back when the crown of Aragon ruled over Italy.

TRVKE

>>509029354 (OP)

every single spaniard or portugese ive ever met looked arab to me

>>509029393
>every single sp-ACK

>>509029393
saar

>>509029354 (OP)
I wonder who would have interest in dividing Europeans with retarded shit like this...

>>509029354 (OP)
I get it that actual french bullies you foe ypur mongrelized mixed heritage, but still you're ⅞ Flemish, quit LARPing as a Spaniard

>>509029393
Every Portuguese I've seen literally looks like an arab mutt.

>>509030474
You think I wear a headband with "SPANISH OCTOROON" written on it? I never had any trouble with it because most people don't know it.
>>509030518
You're already part of history

>>509030413
Genetics has already done it for you

>>509030646
Evidently something to that effect as your mixed heritage causes you to seethe like so

>>509030821
Who is seething?

>>509030968
The guy wasting his life doing this seems to be seething quite a lot

>>509030474
Flemish? This guy's a a half Algerian rapebaby.

>>509031043
how am i wasting my life? I rarely dedicate more than a hour a day to my shitposting, and some days I don't do it at all.
I just want people to know that Italians aren't like Iberians genetically and that Spaniards are Atlantic-Celtic europeans while Italians are meds, similar to the Lebanese and Greeks. Why don't you leave Spain alone and try to be friend with the Lebanese and Syrian instead? Both are far more similar to you genetically and culturally

>>509031199
I cannot exclude his mother having generated some half algerian mutts at some point due to the absolute states of Belgium, but this dude in particular is ⅞ flemish, i know this for a fact

>>509029354 (OP)
>Italians are shitskin.
Italians are neanderthals

>>509031321
>think that Flemish = Belgian
you're NGMI calogero.

>>509031248
Unlikely so, given your posting pattern. Why do you keep pretending you're iberian when you're largely NW European anyway, did the frogs bully you over your mixed heritage?

>>509031356
I mean, the whole area from which your ancestry hails is thoroughly negroized by now, I know you pretend to be some member of an extinct flemish community in France o algo though

>>509029354 (OP)
Italians are more East Med.
Greek, Phoenician, Pelasgian, etc.

But Italy is a complete hodge podge of genetics.

are meds europeans at this point?

>>509031508
Never have been

>>509031508
There is no such thing as a med race.

The Mediterranean is literally the first globalized zone thanks to the Roman empire.

You just have to compare old Roman and Greek statues to the modern inhabitants of these lands.

>>509031695
Oh its portukang, two schizos at once

>>509029354 (OP)
As someone that follows soccer Spanish people are not white

>>509031695
Having blue eyes and pale skin seems like a poor adaptation to the hot climates of Italy and Spain

>>509031390
You can check my twitter account since you seem to know me well and you can see I only make a handful of tweets a day. Compare that to your friend Augusto the brown Calabrian who spend entire days getting mad at random amerimutts who rightfully identify him as browns. I hardly post on 4chan anymore since my twitter account has a decent following base now. This is my first thread in weeks.
Nobody bullied me over my mixed heritage. Ironically I got in trouble in middle school with a Portuguese kid who I called certain words in the heat of the moment. It got me a 2 day suspension.

>>509031695
that's literally Carmelo the mailboy and Fausto the electrician.

>>509031695
You are absolutely correct.

>>509031812
Blue eyes are not particularly rare in either place, while a minority in both
>>509031842
>Decent following
Nigga barely anyone reads your xeets lmao, you have to start flame wars to get a crumb of attention

>>509031903
You should ask portukang what he thinks of his fellow Iberians btw

Just look at the Ara Pacis in colour.

Look at what the Romans were.

>>509032051
I know this poster is a self hating cuck, nonetheless he is right.
>>509032004
Tom likes all of them and that alone means the world to me.

>>509032051
what does portuguese sound like to italians

>>509032114
Villa de Noheda in Spain

>>509032131
Yo7 fuc8ng t3r4onqcci9 ib3 rberiqn

>>509032174
More Villa de Noheda in Spain

>>509032168
Less understandable than Spanish and quite frankly somewhat retarded

>>509032253
Zeugma in Anatolia

>>509032114
>>509032174
>>509032253
Mainly brown-haired Southern Europeans with some black haired and blonde haired people thrown in?

>>509032301
More Zeugma

>>509029354 (OP)
southern french are swarthy meds

>>509031812
I have both and don't do well in summer. I'd say about 2 in 10 people have blue eyes here. There's some villages with more and others with less. You'll find all sort of mixes of Iberian, Roman, Visigoth, and morisco (Muslim converted to Christianity) dna, so some people will look whiter than others

>>509032325
I never said the Romans were muh hyperborean gods.

Brunnish hair was default.
Blondism and rutilism somewhat apparent.

Flavius and Rufus were common Roman cognomen.

>>509032397
moortugal is downright niggers

>>509032275
imagine how retarded the inhabitants of portugal sounded before the romans showed up

>>509032512
I would have to agree. The Portuguese Empire spelled disaster for us.

Same with the Romans.

>>509032397
Surnames are inherited, not accurate physical descriptions nigga, do you think that niggers with the surname "White" are white based purely on their surname?
The surname "Rossi" ("ginger") is the most widespread in Italy rn, so by your logic Italians have a disproportionate number of gingers

>>509032540
Lusitanian was a sister language to Latin.
Very close to Ligurian actually.

The Ligures spoke a language similar to Lusitanian.

So the Romans would have recognized the vernacular spoken here.

>>509029354 (OP)
Now do it with the northern regions of Italy

>>509032540
Calogero living in Britain trying to stand up for his greaseball brethren. Genetics show that ancient Romans were more northern than modern Italians. Portuguese are btw closer to ancient Romans than most Italians are.

>>509032540
I actually wonder what the fuck they spoke, they weren't Celtic nor Iberian nor even basque-like

>>509032607
Roman cognomina were not inherited you doofos.
They were nicknames given for physical characteristics.

Crassus - fat
Longus - tall
Flavius - blond
Rufus, Rutillus, Rufinus - ginger

Rossi is indeed common.
Barbosa used to be common in Portugal too.

>>509032739
You mistook cognomen for agnomen you dumb fucking cunt

>>509032722
Unironically, they might have spoken an Italic language. Might explain the high rate of r1b U152 in southern Portugal and Extremadura. That's for southern Portugal. Northern was just Celtic.

>>509032168
>>509032275
Portuguese is the most beautiful Romance language

>>509032722
Rufino et Tiro scripservnt
Veaminicori Doenti Ancom (or Angom)
Lamaticom Crovgeai Maga
Reaicoi (or Reaigoi) Petravioi R (or T)
Adom Porgom Ioveai Caielobricoi (or Caileobrigoi)


A language related to Ligurian you noob.

>>509032796
The Lusitanians and Ligurians were kin.
So the Lusitanians came from the same Urnfield culture that the Italics came from.

OP looks like this

>>509032802
Proper Portuguese sounds kinda weird and retarded
Brazilian-accented Portuguese is just an abhomination

>>509029354 (OP)
Spaniards do not hate Italians. You are some nordic-jew creating infights

>>509029393
portuguese are literal mutts but you're wrong about spaniards

>>509032950
Brazilian Portuguese is monkey Portuguese without verb conjugations or proper syntax.

Portuguese is very dipthongal like Castillian.

We have ão, ães and ões. Which the Spaniards dont have.

Its a broken Latin vernacular. Like any Latin vernacular.

>>509029354 (OP)
Everyone underneath the red line is brown.

>>509033050
portuguese and spaniards are the same genetically. No point in differentiating them just because of two separate nation state.

>>509033121
eat it anglonigger

>>509033154
Nah. The Castillians are much purer Iberians than we are.

Portugal was an emporium for Jews Niggers and Cryptomuzzies.

The Castillians were much less commercial and tolerant.

YWNDU
Goths always have each other's backs, 𐌷𐌰𐌹𐌻𐍃

>>509032950
EU Portuguese sounds archaic to me

>>509033251
Gutiska razda, willjia mahteiga.
Hail Alareiks!

>>509033154
That can't be right. I've been to both countries and portuguese are even darker than greeks and italians, meanwhile some spaniards actually have brown hair and light eyes.

>>509033121
vodkaniggers white

>>509033373
Spaniards are more Iron Age Iberian than us.

We are la creatura imperial porcogalesa.

>>509033373
Phenotype does not correlate very strictly to genetic distance, Iberians are overall genetically closer to you than Italians are (including northern ones) but Italians have on avg more lighter traits
Granted in both cases the distance is not as abysmal as the genetic or phenotypical difference between whites and negroes

>>509033433
You're still nice people though, portuguese > arabs ANY DAY

>>509033551
We are corrupt low brow monkeys.
But we dont want to convert the world to our filth unlike Arabs.

>>509033373
>darker than greeks
nope.
Greeks have a lesser rate of light traits, and this goes without saying but they have significantly more non european admixture.

>>509033531
Yeah that's true, there got to be some white genes in portuguese with the rich history they have

>>509033638
The Greeks have always been 75% Pelasgian.

Pre Greek inhabitants conquered by the Achaeans.

>>509033531
Italians in the north have lighter traits due to mass Germanic rape. Present day northern Italians are up to 20% Germanic. That's why they look whiter than Iberians. Central Italians look similar and southern ones are slightly darker.

>>509033688
You don't need to be NW European to have a rich history, I loathe chinks and jeets but they have plenty of historical heritage and old stuff

>>509033789

>>509033789
Germanic input in Italians is minimal, iron age Italics tested this far showed similar rates of light traits as modern Italics

>>509033789
Italians in the north were always more Italo-Celtic and Indo-European.

Mediolanium is literally a Celtic word.
Northern Italy has always been European adjacent.

Southern Italy is East Med and Africa adjacent.

>>509033835
You just need to look at Dante Alighieri.

He had a Lombard surname [Adelgar].
But he had an Italian phenotype.

The Germanics didnt have the numbers to leave a genetic inprint in Italy.

>>509033850
Upcoming study is vindicating the replacement theory
>>509033835
North Italians truly are Terroni raped by Germanics.
>iron age Italics tested this far showed similar rates of light traits as modern Italics
No they were browner.
North Italians have a higher rate of light traits than even some region of southern France.

>>509029354 (OP)
it's your fault shitaly exists, maybe slap yourself in the face if you're so mad about us

>>509034000
Iron Age Italics were Urnfield Central Europeans.

The Italics came to Italy from Bavaria.
How would they be niggers?

>>509034007
It's Napoleon III's fault and he was a greaseball. French nationalists with a couple of braincells recognize that it was a mistake.

>>509034074
They weren't niggers, but they were darker than modern day Italians.
Central europe was browner then. Similar to present day northern Spaniards and southern French

>>509034000
They are not going to lmao, Germanic tribesmen were outnumbered by a massive margin by local Italics. Germanic admixture within Italians in the north and centre is extremely minimal, though not non-existent

>>509029354 (OP)
Fuck off muhammad

>>509034186
>Central europe was browner then.

Cope.
Italic tribes like the Sabines have cognatism with the Suebi.

The Samnites with the Semnones.
The Veneti with the Armorican Veneti in Gaul.

>>509029354 (OP)
You must be joking. Spain is the same phenotype as North Africa.
You are the most niggerish Europeans of all time. Unable to control your emotions, all your former colonies are absolutely nigger-tier, and your ancestors lost the country's fortune by covering everything in gold lmfao.
Italians are a bit retarded but have made genuine contributions to the progress of humanity.

>>509034196
Are you illiterate Grainchimp? I posted the abstract here, it couldn't be more clear: >>509033835

>>509034391
Sorry germanigger but that shit has been disproven time and again, Germanic admixture in Italy is extremely low, below 10%

>>509034327
I forgot you were such a mentally ill cuck house negro. It seems that trying to talk sense into will be a fruitless entreprise.
I will tell you this as someone who is mostly of Germanic ancestry : Germanics are not worthy of being worshipped. Not at all.

>>509029393
You are just salty because you are genetically INFERIOR to Spaniards, like demonstrativ in the Battle of La Bicoque.

Go be an ecological FAGGOT somewhere else.

>>509034524
How can you even disprove a paper that hasn't been released yet? I'm sorry but an actual scientific paper has more weight than Jovialis' and Olson's copes.

>>509029354 (OP)
Spain and Italy are brother nations. Genoa were the bankers of the source of many administrative officials in Spanish empire.
Naples, Sicily and Sardinia were as well territories of Spanish monarchy for centuries as well. Milan for 150 years.
And for 150 years Florence and other states in Central Italy were vassals of Spanish monarchy.

>genes
Spain carry more basal Preindoeuropean genes than Italy, that's why your average person here looks as swarthy as a Sardinian while score closer in charts to invasive Germanic populations in France, Alps and Britannia.

But Italians on average carry much more Germanic DNA, even Sicilians get more Germanic and even Slavic traits given the massive settlement of Germans and Balkaners during Middle-Ages and Modernity.

>>509031508
Actually the original and true Europeans. Megalithic ruins, Classical Greece, Roman Empire, Age of Discoveries, Renaissance, Scientific revolution, Counter-Reformation and Fascism were Southern European historical fenomens.

The only thing we can say is Northern European are Dark Ages, Industrial Revolution (ignoring Venize already produced on industrial scale during Middle-Ages) and Age of information.

>>509031695
Iron Age Greeks and Romans looked as today Italians and Greeks, if not more darker since they lacked of massive influx of barbarian Germanic and Slavic genes that arrived during Dark Ages. From mosaics and frescos people were predominantly "swarthy".

But you shurely are some short of British or Anglomutt diaspora in Portugal, what a garbage nation turned into a colony. What a worthless excuse of nation.

>>509029354 (OP)
>>509029393
Portugal and Spain were ruled by Muslims for a while.

>>509034639
the notion of heavy Germanic admixture in Italy has been disproven time and again I mean, if you don't want me to talk about a paper which hasn't been released yet then don't quote it altogether

>>509033638
Italians and Greeks have higher rate of blue eyed alleles than tugas though (except of deep down hardcore terronia and crete)

>>509034797
Yes and it unironically made them whiter.
>>509034687
>Spain and Italy are brother nations
hahaha no my friend they don't. Check this twitter account x.com/zerbin159
He's one of >>509034893 friends btw.
Italians are half semitic cunts. You shouldn't trust them.

>>509035022
This map is fake as fuck.
>>509034893
Depends on how you define heavy. 20% is not that much. Galicians and northern Portuguese have around 10% for example. It's enough to justify the higher incidence of light traits among north Italians.

>>509035079
I wonder which germanic LARPing as Iberian is that account responding to, eh?

>>509034639
Your fucking "purebreed frankish" royalty looked as orange sellers from Cadiz or Tarento.

Germans at XIX century put a massive statue of Arminius looking at your border with a sword to remind you they kicked yout phat smelly French ass at Franco-Prussian war.

Actually we must not forget that Romans conquered you because Germanic tribes were kicking the shit of you in Gaul out of your own lands.

>>509035166
20% is way too much for peoples who represented like 5% of Italy's population back then, and again iron age Italics had roughly similar rates, you're coping

>>509034687
>Naples, Sicily and Sardinia were as well territories of Spanish monarchy for centuries as well. Milan for 150 years.
BTW you know that Calogeros blame their poverty on Spanish rule?
It's curious but I live in a territory that was under Spanish rule for a good deal of time and I never met someone even suggest that whatever shortcomings we have, it's due to the Spanish. But the average Calogero is convinced that without the Spanish rule they would be as rich as Switzerland.

>>509035079
>Check this twitter account
He is just an asshole. There are persons like that everywhere. If we get rocky according to Basques all of Castile, Aragon and Portugal are a crowd of Latin mutts "maquetos" occupying Iberia and Euskalerria being them the only natives of the peninsula.

>>509035166
>This map is fake as fuck.
That's not a map of how many people have blue eyes, it's a map of how many people carry the ALLELES for blue eyes

>>509035166
>it's fake as fuck
it isn't
Central-Southern Italy and mainland Greece are swarthified to the core on the internet
so is Eastern Sicily, dragged down by the western parts with more Levantine admixture
Iberians can look Levantine as hell, I know plenty here in Europe
yes they are more European genetically on average but in terms of phenotypes they show exoticness

>>509035318
>BTW you know that Calogeros blame their poverty on Spanish rule?
Some do.
Just as some LatinXs as well.
The elites do not and actually know Ottomans would have fucked the shit of them if was not for all the Aragonese and Castilian war efforts to keep Turks out of Malta, Sicily and the Western Mediterranean.

>>509035268
>20% is way too much for peoples who represented like 5%
They were conquerors and then nobles. Thus had access to more women. This is not rocket science.
>>509035208
He was doing that long before I was even aware of his existence. And there's also Italicroots and other. Italians overall don't appreciate Iberians, they just see them as convenient allies in their gay panmed anti Germanic crusades.
Point of this thread is in part to demonstrate that there is no such things as meds.

>>509034797
You on the other hand. ...

>>509035412
exactly thank you for clarifying, sven

>>509034797
You are not better off, you genetically inferior a anglonigger

>>509035471
Some is already too much.
You will NEVER see a Walloonian or a northern French blame whatever issues they have on a centuries old Spanish rule.
Calogeros do it all the time.
>Just as some LatinXs as well.
Excactly. Calogeros and LatinXs are both browns who should be avoided.

>>509035412
I know, it's still fake.

>>509034797
You aren't even native of the islands.
You lack of Britano-Roman genes.
You don't speak Britano-Roman or Welsh.

And for the worse, you are not just aliens that arrived as pirates to Britannia, but your elites for the last 1,000 years have been French and your kings are an unholy mix of Dutch and Germans.

>>509029354 (OP)
your own president is groomed by his pedotranny unlce and the best you can come up with is this nonsense? merde, pierre

>>509035774
>it's still fake.
Why? In a country that has 50% carrying the allele for blue eyes you'd still only see something like 12ish% of the population actually have blue eyes, if not less. Because it's a recessive trait.

>>509035873
I don't really care about France. One day I will just reestablish the duchy of Burgundy, marry the princess of Spain and make the treaty of Tordesillas a reality.

>>509035906
There's no such study by the University of Shanghai. The map is entirely made up.

Spaniards and Italians are brothers of parochialism and mafia.

Fuck me.

>>509035506
You are bonafide retarded, Germanic tribesmen had social stratification like everyone else, meaning only a small % of them would have been nobles (who largely intermarried w/ their Italic equivalents) with the bulk of the population belonging to the lower classes
>There's Italicroots and others
What of them? It's a minor forum of a few autists mostly blabbering about genetics, not some great antiIberian conspiracy. Not only is the IberoItalic rivalry very minor compared to eg the one between either of them with French or Italians with goymany or Spaniards with engurland, but whatever little there is doesn't even mostly come from the Italian side, you don't see Italians claiming random Iberian historical figures or achievements as Italian.

Then again you're germanic ie completely autistic, your "people" are only equalled by mongoloids in terms of propensity of being sucked into autistic delusions and following them to the bitter end

>>509035022
Sicilians on average have more blondes and light eyed persons than Spain, except Asturians and Galicians, by ancient times they were already known for being a bit lighter than other Spaniards, Saint Isidore and the poet Claudianus already noticed that. But swarthy people in Sicily and Naples are hyper turbo swarthy compared to people here.

The only region of Italy where preindoeuropean genes are not that diluted is Sardinia. And people kinda look very akin to what you find on a village in Castile or Valencia.

>>509036347
But Spain doesnt have any I1 haplogroups.

The swarthy Iberian is not pre-Indo-European like the Balkaners and Sardinians.

The Portuguese show way more exotic traits than the rest of the meds imo. I’m not talking about pigmentation, but nose/lips/eyebrows/hair type. There is an obvious Sub-Saharan influence in Portugal that only exists in Sicily, Malta, Crete and Cyprus but nowhere else in the med countries. The Portuguese are great people, but sadly the Moors had a bit more sexy time there than in other places. Anon from Portugal would probably be seen as a gypsy in central Greece and 90% of the Balkans.

>>509036692
Spain has a massive pre-Indoeuropean genetical influx compared to other nations. Prior to Roman era, half of the peninsula spoke Tartessian, Iberian, Turdetanian, Euskaro-Aquitanian and Balearic islanders maybe spoke some short of Ibero-Nuragic.

Spanish medieval mythology thraced our origins to Caucasus, Saint Isidore, Saint Jerome, Flavius Josephus and other writers linked the Iberia from Caucasus with our Iberia trough the patriarch Tubal. And the arrival of Indoeuropean languages to the herder giant Geryon slayed by Hercules.

>>509029393
takes one to know one shitskin

>>509037083
Tartessian and Turdetanian were IE.

And the Ibero-Aquitanians looked like this:

>>509036274
>You are bonafide retarded
I just describe what I read from a genetic study. northern Italians are 20% Germanic. Like it or not. Take your complaint to the university of Tübingen in Germany, not me. They're the ones working on that paper. You would have also noticed that many Italians also work on it but I doubt you have even read the abstract I posted.
>Not only is the IberoItalic rivalry very minor
It shouldn't be. Iberians need to be conscious that many Italians hate them. Your friend 3trereo is being a great help for that, I hope he continues his good work.
>but whatever little there is doesn't even mostly come from the Italian side
It does, Iberians never made an entire forum to insult Italians. They don't dedicate entire accounts to it. The fact that I'm the only one doing that while not even being Iberian myself tells you how one sided it is indeed, just not how you think.
>the one between either of them with French or Italians with goymany or Spaniards with engurland
Italians love the French though, in France they're their biggest house niggers, it's actually hilarious. And of course the French spit on them behind their back.
>you don't see Italians claiming random Iberian historical figures
Wrong. Italians claim Trajan, Hadrian and Marcus Aurelius. ;)
>or achievements as Italian
Many Italians also believe that they wuz tercios n shieeet when they were little more than canon fodder and the actual elite tercio corps included almost no Italians.
and before you bring up Farnese he was of the opinion that his countrymen were useless cowards.
As I mentioned earlier, Calogero also like to blame Spain for their shortcomings, something none of the people historically under Spanish rule do besides the LatinXs. It should seriously makes you think a little.

>>509036998
>Anon from Portugal would probably be seen as a gypsy in central Greece and 90% of the Balkans.

Gypsy?

>>509037447
Real Iberians dont like Italians.

We consider the Greeks and Italians to be akin to the East Med levantines.

Even Roger de Flor hated the Byzantines when he fought for them.

Liking Italians is Catholic parochialism. And muh Latinism.

>>509037434
>Tartessian and Turdetanian were IE.
They were not. As far we know they were pre-Indoeuropeans and worshipped a Potnia Theron named Ataecina, and other underworld deities; as the Basques.

If they had been Indoeuropeans, they would have worshipped storm gods as Cantabrians and Asturians, that worshipped the storm god Candam in mountains.

According to the historian Florus, the Cantabrian resistence lead by Corocota suicided in mass after years of Roman siege in the sacred mount Medulius. The survivors were forced to move from their villages and to settle next to the Roman garrisons.

>>509037447
>>509036274
I thought you were the Grainchimp at first but it seems that you are the Carlo Conti chud guy. I don't think we ever interacted on twitter, though we most definitely did on /his/, as I remember you sperging out about Lepanto in some posts. Let me make this clear. I won't say that Lepanto was 100% a Spanish victory which would be extremely dishonest, but I will just say that with only Italians at Lepanto Greece today would be even more Turkish than it already is.

>>509037849
All city names ended in -uba are Indo-European.

Although you are right they were Paelo-Hispanic.

>>509037600
Very based but you need to stop to mindlessly worship the Germanics, they don't warrant it. Portugal is a great country that historically punched well above its own weight, be a little more proud for god sake.

>>509038095
I dont worship the Germanics you noob.
Spain and Germany have had contact since the Arevaci.

Portugal is dead.
No point in pouting for a corpse.

People dont know but the Portuguese Empire was the biggest biological disaster for our microstate.

And now we are Brazil-lite.

>>509038025
Not necesarely, several Basque villages and cities names end in -uba
Zarátzuba, Zúñuba, Zubárruba, Gatzagaetxúba, etc.

>>509029354 (OP)
Having been to both places, Italians are whiter looking far more often and especially whiter than the fucking French. Kek

>>509037447
Northern Italians are not 20% germanic in the slightest lmao, when that study is also disproven will you eat shit at last or just autistically spam something else?
>Many Italians hate them
Textbook delusional germanic autistic obsession
>Iberians never made an entire forum to insult Italians.
Neither did Italians
>Not even being Iberian myself
Indeed, Iberians aren't autists who get obsessed over their own delusions and go on autistic crusades on that basis like you vermanics do
>Italians love the french
Lmao yeah, you are just making shit up as you go
>Italians claim Italics
Typical passive-aggressive vermanic homosexual lmao, call me when Italians claim Iberian explorers or admirals
>Italians believe they wuz tercios
No italian believes we came up with tercios lmao, people of many nationalities including Dutch, Italians, Amerindians and Germans fought within the Spanish army and some were over represented in certain specific formations and that is about it. Do you lie as a habit or is it because you are germanic and are thus genetically predisposed to seethe at Italians?

>>509038245
You're definitely doing better than France, the UK or similarly small countries like Belgium or the Netherlands. Far better in fact. Things aren't that good but Chega is one of the less bad right wing party in Europe. No reason to be depressed. The Portuguese empire committed mistakes but so did the French, British and Spanish. At least it wasn't an utter failure like the Italian one.

As you argue about racial differences, Russia is sowing divide every kind possible:
men vs women
religion1 vs religion2
religion vs atheism
pro-life vs pro-choice
pro-vaccine vs anti-vaccine
race1 vs race2
politicians vs people
white vs black
etc.

if all you do is engaging in these division games on 4chan, then all you do is being Russia's useful idiot.

>>509038257
But the Basques are 80% Indo-European R1b.

Much like the Etruscans they carry the DNA and not the language.

>>509030518
That's no way to talk about your best friends

>>509029354 (OP)
This infighting amongst whites are mostly shills on both sides. It’s the same kike propaganda that want white people to hate their, women, men, boomers, zoomers, tradies, vaxxed, unvaxxed, urbanites, rurals, mediterraneans, northerners, christians and so on. The same kikes who invented leftism, feminism, faggot movements and everything else to sow division amongst whites try relentlessly to drive wedges between white people so that they can't unite against their real enemy. Don't fall for it. Don't take the bait.

>>509037954
I have not been on that plebbit sewer of /his/ in ages, you most definitely suffer from some sort of schizoid paranoia

>>509038457
My man. Portugal died in 1578.
Now its just Sephardics, Freemasons and Lisboner mulattoes dividing the loot.

The only "good" thing is we dont have enough muslims to have your problems.

Portugal as a biological-political entity is dead and super gone.

>>509038544
Eppa, I love you cunts but it's true.

>>509038462
>muh Russia
It's the jews, you filthy fucking kike.
Stop deflecting and get back into the oven, chaim

>>509038699
Its more than true.
Everyone in this country looks like a kike rat.

>>509038523
Scandinavians and some Balkaner populations wear predominantly pre-Indoeuropean haplogroups (I1, I2, J2, N, E1b1b) and yet they speak Indoeuropean languages and their forebears worshipped Indoeuropean deities.

Haplogroup =/= Culture, language, religion, identity.

Basques are pre-Indoeuropeans. They speak fucking Basque and their mythology is totally alien to the one of Indoeuropeans. They wear steppe haplogroups because steppe nomads replaced large parts of neolithic populations from the peninsula while assimilated previous language and religion keeping only the warlike culture. That said, half of the peninsula and French south (Aquitanians and Ligurians) spoke pre-Indoeuropean languages by the time Romans arrived around 300 BC. So shurely at Bronze Age the amount was even larger.

>>509038928
So you are saying Spain is pre-Indo-European and black?

>>509038348
I don't think you went anywhere beyond Alabama filthy mutt and the second half of your post reveals that you can't even distinguish between natives and immigrants.
>>509038441
>Neither did Italians
What is italicroots.com
>Indeed, Iberians aren't autists who get obsessed over their own delusions and go on autistic crusades on that basis like you vermanics do
You and your little friends are obsessed with "vermanics" as you call them 24/7. You're one to talk. I'm not even half as obsessed toward Italians as you people are. Not even close.
>Lmao yeah, you are just making shit up as you go
I was referring to Italians in France and I think I know better what I am talking about than you do.
>Typical passive-aggressive vermanic homosexual lmao, call me when Italians claim Iberian explorers or admirals
I did not deny that they ultimately had Italics origins but it's not like Claudius who was born in Lyon by coincidence, Trajan and Hadrian came from families that were well established in the peninsula for a very long time. Claiming that they had no genetic and cultural tie to their lands is dishonest. Even more when prominent Roman writers from the region like Martial talk about their Celtic and Iberian roots. It would be like a Spaniard claiming that Armando Diaz was 100% Spanish. The only competent Italian general in the 20th century was Spanish, isn't that hilarious, chud? Unfortunately, he was probably even less Iberian than I am.

>>509039071
You are retarded

>>509038928
in Scandinavia R1b+R1a were and are always dominant except smaller subregions
in the Balkans too R1b-Z2103+J2b2(the latter is steppic/Yamnaya derived) were dominant as well

>>509039165
I agree Spain is black.

>>509039175
R1b is nowhere nearly dominant in Scandinavia.

Nor is it dominant in the Balkans.

One more Italiota whitewashing pretending to be human.

>>509039175
R1b and R1a are minority haplogroups in Scandinavia compared the haplogroups I1 and N.

Even in Germany the haplogroup R1b is not the dominant compared to other haplogroups as the R1a.

At this day, Euskalerria and Ireland are the places with the largest amount of the haplogroup R1b. Around 80% in Ireland. Around 90% in Euskalerria.

>>509039380
>R1b is nowhere nearly dominant in Scandinavia.
that's why I said R1b+R1a, monkey should learn to read
>Nor is it dominant in the Balkans.
that's why I used the past form "were", monkey should learn tenses

>>509039098
>What is italicroots
A minor forum with a few users babbling about random genetic crap which your delusional mind mistook for a grand antiberian conspiracy. Ofc if italicroots wasnt a thing you'd just pick another random forum and start seething about it pretending it was the definitive proof Italians are out for Spanish blood, as a vermanic autist seething at Italians is your priority, any attempt at logically rationalizing it is preceded by this fact
>I'm not even half as obsessed toward Italians
Sometimes I wonder where the boundary between lies and delusions is with you lol
>I was referring to Italians in France
Irrelevant, most Italians aren't French Italians and actual Italians tend to much prefere Spaniards to French
And ofc Italic settlers spread within the empjre had connection to Italic tribes, it's not rocket science

>>509039408
but their sum is dominant, both R1b and R1a are from the same Corded ware population that brought Indo-European languages, R1a was the first with Battle-Axe culture, R1b-U106 the second from single grave culture

>>509039451
R1b and R1a are not dominant in either Scandinavia or the Balkans.

I can read. And these posts confirm that Catholic parochial monkeys are black.

>>509039526
I wrote R1b + R1a and for Scandinavia, monkey should learn what the '+' symbol means and to understand punctuation

>>509039576
Nowhere near the top.
The Swedes are mainly I2 laplanders.

>>509039678
>The Swedes are mainly I2
nope, here's some nice data for you

>>509039750

>>509039750
Stockholm
44% I1

The jokes write themselves. Laplander eskimoes.

>>509039522
If we sum pre-Indoeuropean haplogroups there, they still are dominant.
Finland is directly a pre-Indoeuropean Ugric nation.

>>509039822
Exactly. Scandinavians are black and feeble.

>>509039854
monkey

>>509039898
Nah. I am the last true Iberian.
Surrounded by a sea of niggerdom.

>>509029354 (OP)
>be from Argentina
>our europeans ancestors fucked the country from the start
>got rid a foreign monarchy only to attemtp becoming the local monarchy causing civil wars galore
>bleached injuns and niggers into mestizos and mulatos, then bleached them further into criollos
>appoint an ultra nationalist general as dictator, create a cult of personality around him and turn his party into a state religion
>get infiltrated by subversive communist kikes then overthrown by overtly capitalist kikes
>cry about how bad we have it while braging about how good we are

Yup, definetly Kraut ancestry, only they could have fucked up this bad...
could have been worse
at least we're neither Gauls nor Anglos

>>509032168
Like a drunk Russian trying to speak friulan

>>509040176
>definetly Kraut ancestry, only they could have fucked up this bad...

Yes the krauts.
Not your cocoliche italian forefathers.

Che Guevara was a kraut. Not an italian latifundiary slave like 100% of Argentina.

Argentina is living proof you cant give Iberian things to Italians.
Italians shouldnt even govern Italy. Let alone foreign countries.

>>509029354 (OP)
France is literally african kek, who cares about european ethnic differences

>>509038732
>It's the jews, you filthy fucking kike.
>Stop deflecting and get back into the oven, chaim
it's the Russians, always have been

>>509039481
>A minor forum with a few users babbling about random genetic crap which your delusional mind mistook for a grand antiberian conspiracy
The vast majority of threads on this forum are about brownwashing Iberians and whitewashing Italians by spamming gypsies for the former and tyrolese for the latter. But I wasn't excepting actual honesty from someone with >10% natufian admixture.
>Sometimes I wonder where the boundary between lies and delusions is with you lol
You and your friends are openly praising the gangrape and other migrant crimes in germanic countries. I never went that far. My feud with Italians is strictly restricted to the internet and I leave it there after getting up from my computer's chair.
>And ofc Italic settlers spread within the empjre had connection to Italic tribes, it's not rocket science
I didn't deny this connection, I argued that they were not pure Italo-Greeks after several generations. It's hilarious how you people think that Italics all bred with Greeks and Anatolians almost automatically but wouldn't have done so with the much less foreign Iberians and Gauls.

>>509040355
Sono italiano, spaghetti mafia mandolino.
Amo fare il marocchino.
Turco catolico, non me frego di un pompino.

>>509039481
they are discordtroon nafri and brazilian

>>509029354 (OP)
>Hes worried about other native europeans instead of the swarms of shitskins flooding france
Retarded divide and conquer thread sage

>>509029354 (OP)
>>509029354 (OP)
>French flag
>most retarded hot take take

like clockwork

>>509039822
I get what you mean but it basically doesn't make too much sense to separate R1b+R1a when it comes to considering the impact of Indo-europeans, the so called pre-IE haplogroups there are a disparate collection some of which where in Scandinavia from the stone age, others maybe arrived only in the middle ages, all from unrelated groups, whereas R1b+R1a are really effectively representatives of mostly a single ethno-cultural impact

>>509040662
España crisol de razas,
Lanza de Africa.
Bailo flamenco mientras digo OJALA.
El guiri se queja y me quedo aca.
Sangré gitano-ibera no hago nada,
Siesta con mi burro lo debo a Marruecos.
Almohada de Tanger, fuerte como huesos.
Me duelen las rodillas me voy a la mesquita.
Decir la shahadah corvado a Medina.

>>509040530
>The vast majority of threads on this forum are about brownwashing Iberians and whitewashing Italians by spamming gypsies for the former and tyrolese for the latter
Yep, completely braindead and a chronic liar to boot, I would respect you so much more if you were more fortright and outright said what you think without the need to make up outlandish stuff to justify it. Your race is a lot like semites in that regard
>You and your friends are openly praising the gangrape and other migrant crimes in germanic countries
Members of your race getting killed is bad because...?
>and I leave it there after getting up from my computer's chair
Fat chances, you live in symbiosis with that chair by this point

>>509029393
Bishmilah
We are the sons of the brave berber warriors who crossed the straight.

>>509041070
This thread has convinced me.
Italians and Spaniards are Catholic Turks.

>>509033835
Marijuana Belcastro worked on this paper. She’s literally retarded. Lived for 2 years in Kazakhstan studying khazars (guess who funded that research) and would continually tell me that they spoke a Persian language in Kazakhstan. Her husband is super rich and she got her position at the Alma Mater by sleeping her way up the latter. I’ve never worked for anyone so insufferable in my life. She literally thinks her shit doesn’t stink. She acts like an expert with 100s of books in her office, but hasn’t read even 5 of them. I had to remove the pseudoscience Slovene venetic theory books (PLURAL) written by those Canadian schizos because she didn’t know how retarded they were. She can’t speak read or write in English and has to pay for translations. This paper is tainted by her touch and thus untenable. You have no idea how much I hate Belcastro. Complains about “mountains of work!” But takes 5 hour lunch breaks and 30 minute cigarette breaks every 15 minutes. She’s in her office or teaching or researching max 2 hours a day and gets paid for 10. She deserves the rope.

>>509040355
Che Guevara was, in fact, not Italian

The Portuguese are the most superior of the Mediterranean races

>>509041128
You will never be a real Germanic

>>509041307
Che Guevara was a long lost descendant of Italioti rabble rousers ever since the times of the establishment of the Tribune of Plebs.

>>509041342
I am the real me. Anything else is accessory.
But never a catholic turk like you scum.

>>509038245

The only European country I've visited was Portugal.

I liked it but was honestly taken aback by the amount of jeets and muslims in Lisbon. I did see quite a bit of blacks (mulattos and charcoal black Africans), but they didn't bother me as much as the jeets and muslims.

I remember my wife saying she can't figure out what an actual Portuguese person looks like. But once we got to Porto we saw them.

Nice place but yeah you guys need to kick out the jeets/migrants.

>>509041208
Even if all of that is real she still is an actual geneticist more qualified than anyone here to talk about this. I dislike Reich and Lazaridis, I think they have a lot of bias, but I would never write off their works. You lot are looking more like nordicists with each passing day.
>>509041070
The gypsy and tyrolese part was an exaggeration but the people on this forum had a particular obsession with Iberians and I find no equivalent among Spanish nationalists.

>>509041537
Not going to happen.
We had an empire from Nagasaki to Patagonia.

Now we are a poor kike microstate ruled by crypto phoenician freemasons that are completely pedophilic.

Portugal has had hundreds of Eppstein cases.
None trialed or mentioned.

It has been over for centuries.

>>509041315
Ugly coal burning whore.

>>509034524
The issue is Germanic and Celtic ancestry share a high amount of IBD and the genetic distance (an arbitrary and meaningless way to plot ancestry that only serves when studying intercontinental populations) are so close as to be impossible to differentiate. The franks and longobards also freed many of their Gallic slaves to grow their warrior bands making the longobards who settled in northern Italy, central Italy, and southern Italy extremely heterogeneous, dominated by Gallic derived lineages, led by a small family group with primarily north-eastern (Baltic like) and North western (Norse-Irish like) European ancestry, but who were already mixed with southern (Tuscan-Spanish like) ancestry components by the time they settled in Pannonia and destroyed (and absorbed) the gepidi.

>>509041405
>>509041456
You are a long lost descendent of a long line of zulu homosexuals

>>509040849
I don't think pre-Indoeuropeans haplogroups there are a a disparate collection, in the chart almost all of them were several variants of I1. Basically I1, N and Q.

But the case is that many retards pretend that haplogroup = culture, language, religion, when it is not. Haplogroups show migrations, and that's it. Based on haplogroups, Scandinavians and some Balkaners should had worshiped in ancient times some cromagnon or uralic deities.

When it was not the case.

And that was the case as well for Tartessians, Etruscans, Turdetanians, Iberians, Ligurians, Basques, Aquitanians and other pre-Indoeuropean societies with predominantly steppe haplogroups.

>>509041797
Risorgimento is coming Calogero. You are going to have your Italiota mafia paradise really soon.

Some speranza and you will get there.

>>509041934
I don't remember exactly that specimen's background but I remember reading somewhere that he was northern. Which means that unlike you he's an actual Germanic rapebaby. Which makes his hatred even funnier. You have more Germanic DNA than I have Iberian DNA, chud. Isn't that extremely funny?

>>509035268
The 5% number was invented due to Manzoni anti Austrian sentiment. According to the written sources and the aDNA evidence from invasion period cemeteries, barbarians and their followers would have made up around 200 000 people. After the disaster of Justinians war, the population of Italy was reduced to less than 5 million, many of whom were already re settled foederati or eastern med Byzantine troops and colonists. In border areas like Friuli, and important regional capitals like Spoleto, Benevento, Bari, and Ivrea barbarian admixture can be as high as 70-90 percent. Val Gardena is dominated by R-L21, with a particular mutation not seen anywhere else in Europe. Val Gardena is Ladin, not German

>>509041758
they are slowly coming up with techniques to differentiate those based on IBD though, McColl's recent studies are doing this kind of stuff and pic related caught my attention in the one about Germanics, for whatever reason, pre Roman and post Roman Italy, aside from the known Anatolian/eastern ancestry, also shows the same shift to CWC dominated steppe-rich ancestry at the expense of beaker-related, it gotta mean something when "Celtic" France for example still is largely dominated by beaker-related ancestry before the Germanic migrations

>>509041669

Maybe the jeets/migrants will leave for France, Spain, Germany, etc, for better "opportunities".

You don't go to Portugal to make money... there is none.

>>509042097
You are so out of track this is genuinely amusing lmao, please do go on

>>509041758
Yeah cumulative generations of Celto-Germanic slaves likely had an higher impact on the Po valley than marauding Longobard bands, I do not disagree here

>>509042210
Yes, Italy was a mess and modern Italians genetics and haplos being all over the place is a consequence of that. It don't take away any great things you did as a nation but that's how it is.

>>509042285
Its a trampoline shithole thats for sure.

>>509042418
>cumulative generations of Celto-Germanic slaves

A Cilician-Levantine latifundiary terrone calling anyone a slave.

>>509042210
100-200K people is a correct assestment for Germanics given their endless demographic limitations
Italics, while having considerably shrunk from the 12-15 million they were in their Imperial heyday, were nowhere as few as 5 million though, the myth that the Gothic war depopulated Italy is hard to die but ultimately has little basis in reality

>>509042509
Ywnbarg

>>509032051
>You should ask portukang what he thinks of his fellow Iberians btw
Love Galicians above all they are our litle bro/ancestors us being called Lusitanians is a psy-op to erase our Galician past because we had to distance ourselves to creat our culture in the beginning, like Asturian-Leonese, Extremadurians and Valencianos and Sevillians.
Genocide Castillians but also love them.
>>509032168
>>509032275
Portuguese is close to Ocitan thats why im a Ocitan revivalist, all latin languages have to go back to their roots and we can understand each other.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG_lOxWr7VE
We have to create the Latin Union much the same way Scandinavians might form a Union, this European Union project is doomed globohomo trash, i tried to believe it could be fixed but alas now i truly see i have given up on it.
Iberia+Occitania+Italia <3 kick germanic northern french(Franks) dogs out.

>>509042609
>Iberia+Occitania+Italia <3 kick germanic northern french(Franks) dogs out.

Who will give you gibs then?

>>509041633
Lol, no she isn’t, she is a biological anthropologist. Her biggest “gift” to the scientific community was a method to use the sacro-iliac articulation as method for determining AaD, and it’s completely useless as no one has been able to replicate it and even she doesn’t use it anymore. You know what a biological anthropologist is, right? All they do is measure bones. That’s it. A monkey could do that job since all they do is fill in forms with equations created by Americans 40 years ago. She doesn’t understand what an “allele” even is. Th Alma Mater doesn’t have a genetics lab, it’s in Ravenna and run by a legitimate pedofile who I won’t mention (he runs BONES labs). The other lab is at the university of Modena run by another smooth brain who can give me strontium analysis results but is completely incapable of realizing what they mean.

>>509041758
>an arbitrary and meaningless way to plot ancestry that only serves when studying intercontinental populations
LMFAO of course only a shitalian would say that.
How do you cope about having genetically more in common with a Syrian rapist in Rome than with a Spanish tourist from Burgos?

>>509042749
Me. I pay more taxes to make sure Portuguese in France can live on the dole.

>>509042749
The land will provide our wealth just as it did for our ancestors.

>>509042212
I would imagine this refers mostly to eastern Germanic pops (goths and their sarmatian allies) as they are the farthest shifted from the larger Germanic/northwestern Europe ancestry component. I wasn’t aware of this paper though. I stopped working at the Uni in 2023 and haven’t had journal access since then so thanks for the recommendation. I’ll try to find a open access copy somewhere

>>509042767
I don't care about your beef with that woman and she's not even the only geneticist involved so sybau.

>>509042997
it's a pre-print, here https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.03.13.584607v2
the methods are new so I'm not myself taking them 100% at face value

>>509042959
Europe is the Franco-German axis.

Your pseudo union of catholic parochial retards would only be rich in football and gypsy dancing.

>>509042418
You also have to remember that the longobards didn’t enter Italy alone, according to the venerable Paul the Deacon the followers of Alboin consisted of saxons, goths, Gauls, Bulgarians, Huns, sarmatians, and large amounts of pannonian and norican Romans. The Saxon male fighting population alone was said to be 20 000 by Paul, so we can imagine in reality that the saxons (with their entire households) could have been anywhere from 10k to the 20k figure cited above. Paul got numbers from the early post invasion (early 7th century) Origo Gentis Labgobardorum which today only exists in fragment as the incipit for the Edictum Rothari

>>509042431
Lol, I didn’t do anything, my ancestors did. We all sit on the shoulders of giants and should be humble enough to be grateful that our forefathers were European conquerers instead of decadent oriental despots. Also, as I mentioned in another reply, the invasions brought much more than Germanic DNA, also steppe-Turkic, central euro, proto Slav, Baltic, and North Sea

Hey the whole class of coping wops, explain me this:
If northern Italians are le pure Italic, then why Italic were high WHG low WSH while modern northern are the opposite? Can anyone shed light on this mystery?

>>509042955
TRVTH NVKE: Portuguese literally built modern France the place wich the muslim are now destroying.

This post was fact checked by real Portuguese Patriots

Everyday i am blessed that my father came back to Portugal to setle unlike his sisters so i didnt have to speak french.

>>509042567
Anon, you forget the plague that swept through Italy post gothic war. Every source and all material evidence points to a MASSIVE depopulation of Italy. Garrisons left empty. Germanic troops left to open doors for their cousin invaders. Not to mention many germanics and proto Slavs had a genetic allele that made them more resistant to plague that is not found in pre invasion Roman Italy but today is most prevalent in the north east with a decreasing clone towards the south west. It’s probably impossible to know the true number, but Italy was already very mixed at the time of the gothic wars and very few indigenous “Latino-faliscan” derived bloodlines survived.

>>509042854
I don’t cope because my mother is Lebanese catholic so I don’t care lol.

>>509043789
>my mother is Lebanese catholic

The truth surfaces.

>>509043011
Retard she’s not a geneticist. Learn to read. My “beef” comes from doing the work you cite like religion. lol. PRAISE SCEINCE, DELIVER US FROM EVIL, REEEEEE. I bet you fucking love science, ehi?

>>509037492
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS JAW+CHIN AND HEADSHAPE HAHAHAH

>>509043091
Thanks bro, downloading now. Reading… when I have time away from my gay ass job…

>>509043447
still waiting

>>509029354 (OP)
I went to spain and italy and found that spaniards are a bit more darker than italians

>>509043905
Yeah cause I don’t care about “being white” or lying to strangers on the internet for Reddit updoots or chink dollars like you do. Post hand and eye with timestamp if you’re so “proud”

>>509043928
You sound like a nordicist. You both hate actual scientific work because it smittens your theories to pieces.

>>509044108
spain has a fuck tons of gypsies and latinx that you may have assumed were spaniards.
And this thread is about genetic rather than phenotype differences.

>>509044123
Learn to read nigger, didn’t they teach you English in school in Mogadishu before you got trafficked to Belgium?

>>509044121
Its fine. Italians and Arabs are of the same race.

>>509044238
Italians and levantines, yeah I would agree. Arabs end at Jordan.

>>509043734
Even if the plague had halved Italy's population (which it likely didn't, the much deadlier black plague in the middle ages killed a third of the population ca) the total population of Italy still wouldn't number as little as 5 million. Consider also that in 1000AD the total population of Italy is estimated at 5 million, the idea that it would double so easily despite stagnant dark ages conditions should raise some eyebrows

>>509044312
No. Italians and Arabs.

>his lebanese mother told him lebatards arent arabs

Durka durka with spaghetti.

>>509043447
still waiting
>>509044238
>Still thinks I am from Belgium.
You're deranged, chud.
What is there to understand? All I'm seeing is that you're denying scientific facts because it bothers you. What separate you from those nordicists who claim that the greek and chinese governments are hiding the real samples?

>>509043091
Oh shit I did actually read that already. Didn’t recognize the figure. Thanks for the reminder that goths were mostly Slavs by the time they entered Italy though. This paper is super dense and I should probably read again.

>>509029354 (OP)
it's always a somali flag sowing med division

holy fuck the germoid is losing it bad lmao

>>509044625
Nobody is dividing you.
Arabo-gypsies need no division.

I haven't been to spain but the people I've seen in videos of spain make me hesitant to call them white. But they also have massive amounts of immigrants.

>>509044514
Im a different guy niggerfaggot. I know blacks have difficulty with reading comprehension but come on man

>>509044671
>nigortugal talking about race
kek, lmao even

>>509044404
>>509040007
Bro you really need to stop, you are a german migrant spreading dissinfo discord. Please seek mental help.
We are descendent of phonecians.

>>509044344
I think you mistyped the 1000 ad pop figure? 5 million in 568 and 5 million in 1000 ad?

>>509044668
>no arguments
>no thought
>just a fucking brown greaseball making a fool of himself
Thanks for confirming yet again every single stereotypes about your 10% natufian people.

>>509044751
Españolete gitano-andaluz talking about raza welelelele

Dame un sapateado gitanito.

>>509044790
You're right i meant around 9-10 sorry

>>509030413
I think it starts with a J and ends with W. Using fag memflags as a cover

>>509044404
So you admit you’re a nigger living in mortugal? Post hand and eye or you lose, I win, my cock is huge and veiny and busts on command, and your mother is a whore killed by your drunk black father (before he abandoned you, obvs, lol)

>>509044821
>10% natufian people.

His mother is arabic.
He is 70% Natufian.

Italians, Turks, Spaniards, Arabs.

All the same shit.

>>509044710
Excuse me, you both have green ID and you both sound similar. But hey unlike you wops I'm honest enough to admit when I make a mistake.

>>509029354 (OP)
ok so what are puerto ricans? aren't they a mix of indigenous and spainiards?

>>509044821
>Mistakes one ID for another
>Mistakes one person for another
>Mistakes one post for another
>All within one post
This is positively hilarious lmao, keep losing it

>>509044899
Look at the Arab pretending to be human.

DURKA DURKA BISHMILLAH ALRAHIMM
HALLELUJAH

>59 pbtid
literally terminally online

>2 pbtid
cuck watching in the corner

europeans have the best threads but i get on here too late to be a real participant. oy vey...

>>509045104
Chud is not that far off, 13+28, and he has the gall to call me terminally online.
Mine is high too but this is my own thread and i'm not posting on any other.

>>509044865
Ah ok, thanks makes more sense. Although I could still believe a doubling in population due to immigration and the agricultural revolution. We have data of similar population booms in other euro countries between 900-1100, leading to the need to acquire more land through the crusades and eventually the plague event of the 1300s, which is more and more thought to be a product of overpopulation, low work opportunities in the fields because of more efficient farming, and a resulting overcrowding of unsanitary cities. Still, I would give 568 pop 5 million as an EXTREME low, with maybe 8-9 as and EXTREME high. Truth is somewhere in the middle? Either way I think we can both agree that Roman italy was already very heterogeneous at the time of the gothic wars/longobard settlement

>>509045189
This thread is proof these shitholes should all form one single caliphate of flatulence sniffers.

>>509032168
kid with down syndrome trying to express a complex idea

>>509045104
Its the germanic autism.
Please understand that you have to take him back. He is suffering very much i feel sorry for him he is full of self hate for not being among his people and his sperging out in this thread.

>>509044919
Lol, blacks can’t even read numbers. That’s another pasta nigger itt

>>509032892
i love my portuguese borthers.
im venetian so my people were veneti or whatever. i think they were mud hut enthusiasts

>>509045377
Arent you italioti all the same?
Naples, Beirut, Istanbul, etc.

Who cares?

>>509029354 (OP)
>YOU'RE BROWN
>N-NO... YOU ARE!!!
the absolute state of southern europeans

>>509045456
The Venetians built in wood and stone.
Their country didnt allow for the sedimentary rock building of Greece or Egypt.

>>509034893
nigger im 40% german. them niggers at 23andme cucked me

>>509045022
Ah, the classic deflection of the negroid type specimen. Monkey noises, screeching, inability to recognize patterns numbers or comprehend a written language. You’re sopa de macaca is getting cold, Jamalinho, don’t you know it’s uma delicia?

>>509045201
It’s anuddah shoa, I know, oy gevalt! But these threads are really fun, fr fr, no cap, on god. I love making these autists lose it.

>>509045541
DURKA DURKA SONO ITALIANO NON ARABO

Shut the fuck up italiota pongideo.
A mixed breed to boot.
Go to Beirut and throw yourself off Baalbek nigger.

>>509045266
Agricultural innovations weren't much of a thing in Western Europe prior to 1000AD, population growth back then would have been minimal as populations largely stagnated overtime as evidenced by lack of urban, economical and even military growth- the Franks themselves who were the main Western Euro polity in that timeframe had frankly pityful inurbation and growth rates. So yeah, I would say 7-8 is a far more sensible estimate overall, with the mean of all Germanic groups who migrated (that is, with their families) at around 150-200K
Anyway the schizoid vermanic seems to think I am you or you are me and that one/both of us is accusing him of being a terminally online autist while under a German flag as I understand, what do you make of this pityful schizo?

>>509045673
im pan-european but i think european genetic history is interesting nonetheless.
I love Europe. so sad the state it's in.

italy is going extinct.

>>509045722
in veneto and friuli we got a lot of german dna. A lot. lombardy is the same.

>>509045749
>italy is going extinct.

Inshallah hallellujah amen.

Suppose OP is not a faggot, what's his point?
Advertising davidiski toys? Getting chuds to pay to get their coordinates on g25?
Enquiring minds wants to know.

>>509045456
The palaeo veneti were marsh dwellers, yes, with pile houses similar to those of the preceding terramare culture and cultures north of the alps. Venetians from Venezia are a different thing, much more Italian and eastern med with significant ashkenazi and Slavic admixture. It was THE metropolis of the 11th to 15th centuries.

>>509045722
*Even funnier, the German talking about terminally online people was talking about the kangtuguese and not the vermanic LARPing as a Spaniard, but the latter took offense and felt the need to reply anyway lmao. He's completely lost it, what living your life vicariously on the internet does to a mofo

What the fuck is wrong with this fatty?

>>509033638
Greeks are logically darker. Greece is a lot further south than Italy or France.
Greeks are despite ages of wars and different empires quite homogenous. I fear asking grok about France.

>>509045480
Lol, it’s great. Accelerate brother.

>>509035022
There are a ton of blue eyes people in Italy, when i grew up it was a bit rare, now it feels like every other kids is blonde blue eyes
Different coloring that the Netherlands for instance, much less Targaryen but still Italy is getting bleached

>>509045898
I was talking about the fat Barbosa

>>509045934
Just look at where greece is, compared to Rome. It doesn't even begin.

>>509045854
>pile houses
I'm assuming you're talking about in the laguna though no?

my family is from bassano where obviously there werent pile homes

I wish we could venezia back as a great city. they filled mestre with third world human shit.

>>509045694
I know it’s hard being black in mortugal with a dead whore mother whom you couldn’t even pay the funeral for, but really, you shouldn’t leave your monkey soup get cold. There’s starving Africans tha… oh wait, never mind.
>thinks Baalbek is in Beirut, lol, lmao even.

>>509029354 (OP)
another thread hate on italians lmao, jewbots are really going strong, it doesn't surprise me since the bbc and porn span lately

>>509045979
I know, he's the kangtuguese I was referring to, I just found it amusing how OP evidently felt that "terminally online" was an apt description for him too and thus felt the need to reply to your post (hence proving he's terminally online)

>>509045722
Anon… we are the same person though? But… I though.. I wuz you and you wuz me and we wuz kangz!?!? (Cioè, sti mongoloidi mi fanno morire di risate, una domenica perfetta, specialmente dopo un matrimonio pugliese ieri… porca la madonna)

>>509046109
Nah fr tho. Italioti are cute with your curly black hair.

>>509046259
>matrimonio pugliese

This one is Albanian lol

>>509045749
Lol, yeah, the country that survived 3 major total systems collapses in the last 4500 years is going extinct… sure. Italians maybe, but not Italy. Doesn’t matter. Italy is eternal. I’d be more worried about your empire if I were you.

A country as hot as italy or spain is naturally not going to have all blondes, the one question i have, has there ever been a country with a majority blue eyed and blonde haired people that is not cold as fuck?
can the brainlets answer this simple question?

>>509046251
Yeah, also thought it was funny, since I explicitly said "59 posts" and he had less, kek.

>>509046402
>Italy is eternal

1861 to 2025
RIP

>>509046332
you have more darkies than all sicily combined. Don't make me post Portuguese women imo

>>509045824
Lombardy is much less because of internal Italian migration, same with modern veneto. Friuli is technically a different ethnicity and culture entirely, but are more adjacent to Balkan and Austrian populations in terms of IBD. Especially in the plains where many Slavs were settled after the Hungarian invasions.

>>509045956
Lol saved. This is the most organic humour thread on pol since 2016.

>>509046503
After the Risorgimento half of Sicily migrated to northern Italy.

So Sicily isnt really the populational insularity you think it is.

>>509046548
friuli and venezia giulia (the italian and slovenian controlled parts only) are the most beautiful parts of italy.

trieste is beautiful, the friulian alps are beautiful. yet no tourists, thankfully, go there

>>509046431
They obviously can't. Blonde hair is even rarer than blue eyes. I've seen a lot of italians with blue eyes. And spaniard. And greeks. But blonde hair is not the norm there. And with greeks there is the high likelihood it is due to slavic admixture.

I'd bet there are more blue-eyed people in northern greece compared to southern greece despite southern greece being the core part that was less longer under ottoman rule if at all.

>>509046431
Oceanians have blondism due to TYRP1 variants.
Anyway on the european continent light eyes with light or red hair peak in the baltic and in the urals.
>>509046683
tl:dr for late coomers?

>>509029354 (OP)
I cook da pizza

>>509046831
Rutillism peaks with the Gaels. Not the Udmurts.

>>509046107
Nono, also in the mountain valleys and plains. The current theory is that these pile dwellers would periodically dam rivers/wait for flooding to irrigate their fields. Pile/stilt houses are found even in the padanian plain far from rivers. It was functional but also a stylistic/ethnic marker of pre urbanism. Bassano is on a major river so pile houses would have been very common there (in the late Bronze Age) stone fortifications and oppida don’t appear until the Iron Age mostly under influence of Hallstatt and castellieri cultures. Bassano is very beautiful, you should try to visit. As the name implies, they also have a great grappa industry.

>>509046402
Italians as a race are a disgusting melting pot since the late republican period. It took Trajan who thanks to his iberian blood had a west med republican adjacent profile to bring back to Rome its greatness, and it automatically fell apart after the Italo-Lebanese blood took over again. A tale as old as times.
>>509046445
Say the German whose race is going extinct and your kids are getting splattered like the trash they are by MENA car attacks every two weeks, sybau.

>>509046879
Do you mean british islanders? They're not continentals.

>>509047036
>he thinks I'm german
kek, mon dieu, sacre bleu.

>>509047098
Yes. But rutilism worlwide peaks with Gaelic/Celtic blood. Not mongoloid udmurts.

>>509047119
I wanted to insult the germans so I don't really care
You're a greekjeet?

>>509046765
I do ameribro, I’ll be on the isonzo for ferragosto. O soi furlan de Tavagnâ, o ami le mie tere. Cividale is probably my favourite town in the whole country, great food, great wine, great people. I highly recommend San Daniele as well and the restaurant Al Dolce Nero for the best prosciutto (crudo) in Italy.

>>509047291
>Update
Yes, sirs. And I love redhead women. >>509046879
>>509046831

>>509046831
Basically a black guy who lives in Portugal and Portuguese who lives in France have been losing their shit on this board from italian-shitposting and them being too autistic and emotional to take it in good fun. They pretend to be genetics “experts” to shill for DNA companies. It’s worth the read if you have the time.

>>509047431
If that were natural red hair.

>>509046875
Faggot, learn Italian if you come here. Jesus wept. It’s “I cook-a da pizza” in standard Italian. What you typed is dialect.

>>509047189
It doesn't but even if it did it would not be representatives due to recessive trait and limited island genepool.
Lighter traits in europeans are more common in the east, no idea why you're sperging out so much on exagerated asian admixtures in russians and finns.

>>509047431
Good, the blackening of germany shall go on.
I'm dating a french girl now, poor girl isn't even aware I'm 1/8 andalusian. She's having interracial sex and she is not even aware of it.

>>509047547
Rutilism peaks in Ireland.
You can squirm all you want.

>>509047544
Mamma mia

>>509047469
It is. Look at her skincolour.

>>509047614
brvtal, c'est fini pour la france.

>>509047453
>a black guy who lives in Portugal

mamona tamberi.mp4.exe
https://www.liberoquotidiano.it/news/sport/28178125/tokyo-2020-gianmarco-tamberi-sospetto-lui-sexy-portoghese-subito-dopo-trionfo/

>>509047036
>italians as race
Ahahahaba, AHAHAHHAHA, man, I thought you were being serious before but now that I know you’re just joking, having a laugh as they say, you’re alright Ahmed, you’re alright.

It's weird, because Spanish people actually like Italians and vice versa while both dislike French people a lot.

>>509040530
>You and your friends are openly praising the gangrape and other migrant crimes in germanic countries. I never went that far
>>509047036
>your kids are getting splattered like the trash they are by MENA car attacks every two weeks,
Lmao he's losing it, what being terminally online does to a mofo

>>509047704
And a pomodoro mandolino to you too good sir

>>509047712
You got yourself a leucodermic woman.
But that ginger is straight from the supermarket.

>>509047920
I see, you are an expert at coping.

>>509048071
No. I know bottle dyes when I see them.
Congratulations on your BBCing but dont make up fairytales.

That cunt is as ginger as me.

>>509047778
Many such cases. It’s literally the cause of all Italian seething. It’s the same with Jap women, they have this crazy idea about Italian dudes.

>>509045956
Aren't there anymore dark skin Italians with blue eyes?

>>509048157
This is her hair under different light. Light matters. Intellect too.

>>509047850
>computer, play Hank Scorpio scene, Simpson’s, classic, “Homer which country do you dislike more, Italy or France?”

>>509029354 (OP)
Spaniards are niggers inside. That's all that matters.

>>509048256
Okay nigger. Keep BBCing but stop lying.

>>509047801
I'm glad to see you concede that the Italian race is long dead.

>>509048306
Cope, fatty :)

>>509048303

>>509048316
When was Italian ever a race?
Italy is a cloaca gentilis.

>>509048316
Nigger, remember reading comprehension? I’ll try to remind you because your ape brains aren’t very good at short term memory: learn how to read, then you can discover what a “race” is.

>>509046961
>Bassano is very beautiful, you should try to visit.
Yeah I've been to italy like 12 times. The venetian plain is very nice. unfortunately we're getting filled with thirdies

>>509048476
Natufian pilpul. I was talking about race in a biological sense. You're trying to move the goalposts away o qualcosa

>>509048460
Jamalinho, its cloaca gentium. What is it with you blacks and not being able to read? Really though, please think about your poor dead whore mother and the monkey soup she made you before being strangled by your Gypsy father: it’s getting cold and you wouldn’t want to tarnish her memory any more than what the whole town says about her? Right? Besides in African culture you know how disrespectful it is to waste food.

>>509048776
He's a very mad Italix.

>>509048776
All that because cloaca gentilis.

>>509048526
You should try the mountains next time, way less immigrants there (although veneto in general is full of them) and some beautiful scenery. Friuli is a bit better but last time I was there I saw a black and had to drive home in disgust.

>>509048654
Dios mio, they actually live in southern france.

>>509049042
I dgaf about France, it should be clear by now.

>>509048654
Ah finalmente, la scimmia inizia a scrivere in una lingua umana, dimostrando la mia superiorità in tutti sensi. Grazie, negraccio. I was also taking about “race” in a biological sense retard, once again, learn to read, then trying reading a book instead of getting your “spicy takes” from YouTube.