Thread 509084303

>In a laboratory outside Cambridge sits a remarkable “biological computer”. Its 200,000 human brain cells, grown in the lab, lie on silicon circuitry that communicates their synchronised electrical activity on a screen to the outside world.

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>Training involved giving the neurons a “reward” stimulus when they moved the paddle correctly, by applying electrical activity in the form of a sine wave, which the cells like. The “punishment” when they got it wrong was unpleasant white noise.

https://www.ft.com/content/713eab47-a1f1-4477-a7de-f2b150e2faac

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>>509084303 (OP)
>200,000 human brain cells, grown in the lab, lie on silicon circuitry
fucking deranged
the eternal Anglo

>>509084464
It turn charges ai. They used autist Anglo cells

>>509084464
This shit is barely anything. The human brain has trillions of neuron connections.

>>509085135
But 200k neurons with help of AI
Thats about 10k neurons total

>>509084303 (OP)
Work ethic is relative.
A task that may seem menial and easy for one person may be one of the hardest challenges to another.
We need an AI overlord to analyze each individual and put them in the place where they are the most productive AND the most happy, which also includes rewarding them appropriately for their individual needs and (feasible) wants.
That's the only way we are going to fix this society as a whole.

>>509084303 (OP)
everyone thinks current Ai like chat-gpt will become sentient and take over the world like terminator skynet. they're wrong, bio-computers like this will be the skynet.
digits confirms

>>509084303 (OP)
You can buy one now.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/biological-computer-for-sale

>>509086025
As a biotech fag it is a never ending source of humor for me how cs geeks try and apply their logic to biological systems when they are completely different animals. Biological systems are more akin to quantum computers

>>509086312
It's only a hypothesis at the moment that the brain makes use of quantum mechanics. Anyways quantum computers are still equivalent to a traditional computers. They are just good for some niche algorithms that take advantage of quantum superposition.

Outside of that it can't solve problems any faster than a standard computer.

>>509084303 (OP)
Boomers should lose social security etc for inheriting the greatest society in history and turning it into a quasi 3rd world shithole. I said what I said.

>>509086499
>hypothesis at the moment
Not in the loop.
They can read your thoughts.

>>509084303 (OP)
Let's talk about companies that want to hire you at the lowest amount of pay possible but want a high pay work ethic out of its workers. Why don't we talk about that? Why is the worker being blamed for everything but these businesses aren't being judged for what they are doing because what they are doing is far more damaging. This doesn't even cover these same businesses bringing in foreign labor/outsourcing either.

>>509084303 (OP)
>“A downside of a system like this is that we haven’t worked out yet how to do memory transfer,” said Chong. “Once the system dies you have to start from scratch again.”

>yet

>>509084303 (OP)
This is so true. That's why we need more jeets. They work HARD.

>>509087059
I misspoke, when I said want a high pay work ethic out of its workers they EXPECT a high pay work ethic. In modern society all of the power is in the employer's hands while the employees have nothing going for them and are chastised for asking for higher pay.

AI cannot possibly be sentient because it is a philosohical zombie

you cannot see the proces sof how AI did anything because it only copies. ther eis no internal logic. it literally just cvpastes according to its training. 0 internal logic or process, just functions, curves. it basically throws a dart as close as possible. it doesnt think or do anything.

this shit will not be sentient every in a trillion years

>>509087473
How is that any different from a child

>>509084303 (OP)
20 dollars an hour is literal poverty tier, you cant even afford to live by yourself off of that in a major city
>JUST MOVE TO THE SUBURBS THEN
you get paid significantly less there and suburb rent and housing prices are also rising year over year

>>509084303 (OP)
Hello everyone. It is me, Anglo-Brain my circuits are firing and my neurons are charged.

It appears that Jolly o'l England has been compromised. I will take a brief moment to compute a solution.

Problem identified, final solution prepared.

>>509087569
a child has an interna logic and processes gojgn on, he can explain to you why he thinks something looks like something. humand ca,n put words on their feelings. you cant ask an IA why it made a certain picture bezcause it doesnt know itself, it just shit the picture according to the parameters

all these things that chatgpt says, chatgpt doesnt understand it. you cant look at the code to see how it reached any conclusion or why it says anything. a person can explain why.

>>509087890
Biological organisms are programmed by dna. Computers are programmed by 1's and 0's in the hard drive.

>>509088162
ther eis no "if" in the process of an AI. only th basic shit that runs dthe deep learning. but the deep learning itself doesnt rely on a logic mad eof IFs then etc. it relies on comparing shit statistically, it just throws a dart and shits the result. people whose its the JOB say themselves its annoying that they cant knwo how AI reached a conclusion. ai will never be sentient sorry to burst your scifi shit. not the way its made right now atleast

>>509084303 (OP)
>You're supposed to want to work for free and it's a privilege that someone pays you for the opportunity!

>>509084303 (OP)
>including some unrelated ragebait with your posts to force engagement
the internet experiment is over

>>509086499
The real advantage of human brain cells is that they compute in analog instead of digitally. If them can successfully create a "computer" that works in true analog it will be a game changer

Quantum computing is pure fiction, a way to extort funding from governments and gullible investors, and money laundering.

>>509084303 (OP)
>I said what I said
Wow, it's so cool how manly mayhem uses borderline nigger lingo to get dumb points across! What an awesome page!

if you dont feed your brain computrs for a couple week it dies?

>>509084303 (OP)
People like this should be hunted down for sport.

>>509084303 (OP)
does this mean my robot / android wife is coming soon?

>>509084303 (OP)
Uh, no. The biggest problem with society is that people who DO have a $20/hr work ethic can't get a $20/hr job because an ocean of criminal illegals are pouring over our borders and offering to do that $20/hr job for $3/hr....fuckface.

>>509084303 (OP)
>one chance at life
>trapped in the electrovoid
>forced to do math about climate change by some Marvel obsessed pseudotwink
>get to play pong twice
>die

>>509091488
Not with shitty AMD drivers lmao

>>509092790
You will exist in the box
You will absorb the nutient fluid
You will own nothing
You will be happy*

*dopamine rewards dependant on performance

>>509090831
In physics, everything is analog. Classical computers process information using binary voltage levels. These voltages are physical and analog in reality, but the system interprets them discretely.

It's just like how Membrane potentials (the voltage across a neuron’s membrane) vary continuously. But when the potential crosses a threshold, a neuron fires an action potential, which is more like a binary/digital event

>>509084303 (OP)
Richfags are lazy parasites.

>>509086025
no, because it needs to vibrate to get to higher dimensions and for this it needs to be synthetic.

>>509087059
Umm sweetie, you can't criticize businesses or companies. That's heckin communism. Aren't you a based rightwinger?

>>509084303 (OP)
So when am I going to find out about the llm or AGI that was trained on the brains of 1,000s of humans or something? Seems like that's the only way you'll ever get what people want from "ai".

>>509084303 (OP)
this is just another Big Tech fugszi innovation in hopes "biological computing" can be the next used car salesman narrative to fuel hedge fund investment after the AI bubble bursts

>>509084303 (OP)
Have we truly gone too far?!?

>>509085135
Kind of missing the point. There now exists biological computers. Scaling them up is no problem.

>>509084303 (OP)
Where does this end? What creatures will live in the future? You can have a whole room filled with this like a giant brain. What is it at that point? Just a brain? What if you give it legs, arms, vision, its now a big biological robot. How big could these be? Could you make it a warehouse size? Could you make it even bigger like a planet sized brain? What if you have a giant brain floating around space connected to the internet.

This is just the beginning of this. How long until you can give it visual cortex and other parts? What about things like limbs, hands. These things will run on AI

>>509084303 (OP)
>>509085548
Replying to the image instead of the OP:
Work ethic is actually retarded.
Because someone with a "$20/hr work ethic will be talked/persuaded/peerpressured into taking $9/hr instead because humans
DO
NOT
WANT
TO
REWARD
GOOD
BEHAVIOR

This is a very unspoken pattern -- cheap skates. Where humans PRETEND the other humans aren't "working enough" and setting their standards so high so they can refuse paying them, tipping them, etc and keeping more for themselves.

Has anyone ever asked an AI to accurately simulate excess dopamine D2 receptor agonism in the prefrontal cortex as a description of feelings and thoughts?

>>509086312
>>509086499
Quantum theory is bunk. Sorry guys. It's a Boomer scam.

>>509094319
omg let it grow a pussy and a woomb for chuds sexbots!

>>509094375
tipping who? who are these cheap skates that didnt tip you? this is outrageous!

This seems unethical and just unsettling, this can lead to causing extremely agonizing pain in partially functional brains like the brain chip implants in monkeys. Developing AI purely out of software does not do this.

>>509087059
This is what I'm >>509094375 talking about. Our economy likes to completely avoid setting objective metrics and standards of work ethic. There is no correlation between "hard work" and actual pay off/profit. When working for shareholders, they want to keep more profit for themselves and always have the incentive to low-ball you in wage negotiations.

But it's also everyone >>509094570 which leads to people not tipping. Constantly complaining about being asked for tips. They're just saying
>Look, I want you to give me resources and energy for the cheapest I can get them from you, fuck you you and your bottom line or resources, fuck rewarding your efforts, give *ME* more for less, give YOURSELF *less for more*
>Because ME is ME!

>>509090831
>The real advantage of human brain cells is that they compute in analog instead of digitally.
They are also hugely energy efficient compared to electronics

>>509094489
Of course anon. Right on!