When you read up on them it seems like there were good ones and bad ones the same as every other country on Earth. I hardly see this as an excuse for the Russian people to hand leadership over to a group of foreign people (Jews) who have nothing in common with them or their culture, in fact they hated the Russians and weren't shy about it. Why did the Russian people betray their own allowing the brutal murder of the Romanov family to put jews i.e. the Bolsheviks who hated the Russian people as leaders over them?

Shouldn’t have had Rasputin over

>>509093602 (OP)
You have to read "200 Years Together" to grasp the full picture

>>509093602 (OP)
You have to understand what was going on in Russia in the late 1800s and early 1900s.
Russia was ass backward, and after the Napoleonic Wars, when a bunch of Russians fighting in Europe saw how comparatively advanced Europe was, they came home disillusioned and pissed off. Hence the Decembrist Revolt by officers in 1825, demanding modernizing changes be made. It was crushed and the demands ignored.
The whole 19th century went this way for Russia. Ass backward
Yes, the serfs were emancipated in 1861, but they had to repay their former masters for their new freedom and that kept their families in debt for generations.
By the early 1900s, industrialization was happening rapidly, but as always with Russia, it was already a day late and a dollar short.
Workers were working 14 hours days, seven days a week in horrible conditions and living in hovels. The populations of Moscow and St. Petersburg exploded and adequate housing was in short supply, so workers lived like Guatemalans do today: stacked atop one another.
People were furious. The Tsarist regime was just too set in its ways to allow for timely change. If they wanted to prevent revolution, then serious modernization and improvement in people's lives should have begun in the 1800s.

>>509093937
Also, Nihilism, as a major philosophy, developed in Russia in the 1800s. Its basic tenet was that the system must be annihilated, to hell with what comes after it. People just wanted the system torn down no matter what happened next, that's how desperate they were, and those were intellectuals.

>>509094010
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_nihilist_movement

>>509093937
They could have at least handed the country over through revolution and what not to some other group of ethnic Russians, instead they handed it over to the worst group possible for themselves and didn't ask any questions if it was a good idea or not until it was too late.

>>509093602 (OP)
> Russian people to hand leadership over to a group of foreign people
nigga we wer literally got payback for Pale of Settlement from jews, polish nationalists and latvians.
>your question about the last tsar.
he looks old on photocards but he was actually very young and unprepared to take the throne. hes grandfather killed by suicide bombers, hes father killed by "train derailment".
Also Alexander 2, Alexander 3 and Nicholas 2 wer really good people. Alexander the 3rd even tried to spare Lenins brother for his Narodniks shtick but he was way too dumb.
Narodniks aka Bolsheviks and Anarchists wer like new age kids with terrorist characteristics.
Alexander the 2 shouldve killed them all after 3rd terakt on him which killed veterans of Turkish wars

>>509094010
>Nihilism
To add insult to injury, the next regime promoted alcoholism. Alcohol is a depressant. To sum up the modern Slav, you could say they are jaded because of the 19th century poverty then intense depression from alcohol. Think of the Irish but buck broken from booze.

>>509093602 (OP)
Romanovs were not ethnically Russian and did nothing but suck resources out of the country. It was a logical conclusion to their reign.

>>509094827
>depression and alcoholism in Russia before 1904
tell me more rabi

>>509093602 (OP)
I can't help but feel like the same shadow (((group))) was behind both the French and Russian revolutions.

so many kikes under Romanov threads... no wonder 4ch abandoned and forgotten

>>509093602 (OP)
Russians and their rulers are always bad. Russia is a harsh land that selects for the most brutish, savage, and selfish traits in the population. No matter the era or government type they always manage to make wealth inequality a huge problem. Whether its monarchy, communism, or capitalism. They just can't get their shit together.

>>509093602 (OP)
>tfw no regicide gf to kill tyrants with

They weren't modernizing the empire fast enough to compete with Germany, that's about the only thing they did wrong.

On every other metric they were amazing compared to what followed. Russia was neutered as a political force by the Bolshevik's promotion of abortion and birth control which killed hundreds of millions of infants.
>>509093937
>Workers were working 14 hours days, seven days a week in horrible conditions and living in hovels

As if British or American factory workers lived any differently

>he serfs were emancipated in 1861, but they had to repay their former masters for their new freedom

bullshit

>>509095119
Both were the direct result of poor leadership and mismanagement of the countries by the monarchs. Eventually people get tired of this and overthrow them.

>>509095119
you think?

>>509095067
Not before. I’m saying during the Soviet era. I’m saying that already nihilistic, depressed, and angry people were introduced to heavy vodka drinking.

>>509094564
The only thing Nicholas did wrong was try and help Serbia, thus starting WW1.

If he had just let Serbia get fucked, Russia would still be an empire today, there'd be no communism, and Russians would be the majorities in all Central Asia and probably western China, the Caucasus, Iran, etc.

>>509095318
Okay, what am I looking at, exactly?

>>509093602 (OP)
They relaxed.

>>509095387
are you blind or you can't read?

>>509095344
USSR discouraged alcohol consumption

>>509093602 (OP)
Literally all european nobles were evil scum that never helped the common folk. Euro nobles are the origin of this zionist kike banker problem too

>>509095425
Alright, I see it. "Norwegian Order of Freemasons." That's what I get for just skimming over the image before asking questions...

>>509095436
Unfortunate truth to this. European nobility ended with Charlemagne. After that, especially with Hapsburg, it was Jewish. When was the last time England had an actual English king of Celtic or Saxon descent?

>>509095436
this opinion brought to you by a literal judeo-bolshevik

>>509093937
what a lying sack of shit lmao, decembrist had nothing to do with "displeasure" with a ruling class, you know nothing about it/them

>>509095369
>The only thing Nicholas did wrong was try and help Serbia, thus starting WW1
I agree. many monarchists, conservatives or even old soviet history teachers agree on that. many Russias leaders wer very sentimental towards people with no blood connection whatsoever.
like wester slavs called slavs bcs the same language not the same blood.
Alexander 1st and Nicholas 2nd wer biggest suckers about connecting the slavs no matter what.

>>509095600
american reading comprehension...

>>509093602 (OP)
Compared to now? I doubt it. But now might look better for someone in the future.
This was just another moment in history where change was forced on everyone by the usual suspects.

>>509095431
Not true lmao

>>509095652
>After that, especially with Hapsburg, it was Jewish
retard alert
Most of European royalty throughout history were Germanic, specifically from German nobility, including the Habsburgs, modern English royalty, Spain etc

>>509095709
>ignores the fact that Volga region suffered the most
hruk detected

>>509096186
They were mutts, not really Germanic. Germany simply had tons of small duchies that provided wives for European monarchs.

>>509096249
>Germany simply had tons of small duchies that provided wives for European monarchs.
Are you insane? It's literally the opposite IRL
Most European monarchies descend from German noble male. Most of the time they didn't even bother mixing with the local women, they just got noble women of their own ethnicity to breed with

>>509095652
No fool, euro nobles didnt do anything about elite jew bloodlines creating zionist banker carterls that ran the fucking slave trade. Instead they kept their heads in their ass while allowing kikes to evolve into a global cancer

>>509096363
Google Russian monarchs sometimes. They always ended up with German wives.

>>509096463
>From January 1762 [O.S. December 1761], the monarchs of the Russian Empire claimed the throne as relatives of Grand Duchess Anna Petrovna of Russia (1708–1728), who had married Charles Frederick, Duke of Holstein-Gottorp. Thus they were no longer Romanovs by patrilineage, belonging instead to the Holstein-Gottorp cadet branch of the German House of Oldenburg that reigned in Denmark. The 1944 edition of the Almanach de Gotha records the name of Russia's ruling dynasty from the time of Peter III (reigned 1761–1762) as "Holstein-Gottorp-Romanov".[11]
The French royal family descent from Franks, a Germanic people most related to modern Germans

The British royal family descend from German Saxe-Coburg-Gotha family, before that they were of North Germanic scandianvian origin

Spanish royal family - Germanic
Italians - ruled by Germanic people for 99% of their post-roman history

Germans nobles directly ruled over 99% of Europe, don't speak about stuff you know nothing about

>>509093602 (OP)
Russian Tsars were not bad. I can't fully focus and immerse myself in our conversation right now because the problem of the communists (Jews) who seized my country in 1917, killed 20-27 million ethnically Russian my people, hasn't gone away. And now the same people are importing Islamists (who hate Russians) to us and waging war against a brotherly people (Ukrainians). The same people (communist Jews are in charge, (the rabble, the riffraff in the form of Putin and his team are carrying it out)). Moreover, my dear American friend, we caught this virus (Marxism) over 100 years ago, while you are only experiencing an outbreak of this virus now. That's why my heart aches for all Europeans and for you a little bit more, because you are better.

Returning to the Tsars: two weeks ago I took myself on a little trip to the town of Tsarskoye Selo. In this town lived our last Emperor, Nicholas II, with his family. I visited his palace (they give tours there now) and personally saw and even touched the everyday life of our last Emperor, murdered by the communists. And I tell you honestly, such beauty, such a refined atmosphere, such kindness – a bad person could not have lived amidst that. If you are a tourist in Russia, please visit St. Petersburg and Tsarskoye Selo (it's 30 minutes from SPb). Please, just see it with your own eyes. You will instantly understand everything that has happened to Russians over the last 100 years and what is happening to you now!

P.S. If you're interested, I will send you a letter from a Russian physiologist-scientist from 1932 addressed to the communists

>>509096463
Prussian, not German

>>509095797
I think they were too focused on the Balkans when they should have been thinking about Central Asia.

>>509096228
The point is Russia didn't have famines on the scale of 1931-33 until jews took over. If the Czars were so awful as claimed by Bolsheviks, then you have to ask why.

>>509093602 (OP)
they were bad because they refused to crack down on their enemies and shown 'tolerance ' instead. You can ot be tolerant with jews and freemasons

>>509096770
>Russian marries a German

Well, you proved my point. They were basically mutts.

>>509093602 (OP)
>Were the Russian Tsars really that bad?
Yes they absolutely were. Thank god Finland got independence before full russification.

>>509097037
are you saying "le jews" wer hurting USSR under Khrushchev or Brezhnev. they wer typical politicians who would you expect to rule tsardom or some knyazhestvo. nothing bolshivik-nordnik about them. under Krustchev USSR actually started to breath after all of this torment. NKVD and SMERSH was killed off literally and replayced by KGB with veterans of Great Patriotic War

No. Russia was taken over by the jews who brainwashed illiterate farmers to overthrow the czar. So, jews were guilty ones and idiot farmers were a tool for their goal.

>>509097178
Stop talking shit, dummy. The woman was not Russian by any modern standards as she had German ancestry, she married a German noble that married a German noble woman, and produced a German child who married another German noble woman, who produced a child that married another German noble woman etc

The royal house of Russia was entirely German, so is the british royal family and many (if not every single one) others in modern times and throughout history

>>509096003
>>509097201
>>509097658
why is this flag perpetually butthurt? Every post by it is seething about Russia in one way or another

>>509097201
>Thank god Finland got independence
you serve NATO retard and before that you served Third Reich as a meatshild before they tund on you and burnd Lapland

>>509097704
What's your argument? Those farmers were promised that they will gain the power, worker's paradise, but it wasn't true. They created a prison for themselves, because they were idiots unlike those jews who rose to power.

>>509097593
>are you saying "le jews" wer hurting USSR under Khrushchev or Brezhnev.

Stalin purged the jews from power after 1938, which would explain why there were no repeats of the famines or the mass killings of goyim. But that doesn't bring back the millions of people who died.

>>509093602 (OP)
Your founding fathers found monarchy deplorable and thought people had the right to lead themselves.

>>509097658
>illiterate farmers
those so called "illiterate farmers" somehow read tsars gazeta, Kolchaks front gazeta and pravda bolshevik gazeta.
so illiterate... keep repeating red propaganda

>>509094288
This is an extremely childish view. The masses never held power and decided to give it to one group or another. The masses never hold power themselves. Power is taken by an organized group of dedicated people. And during the early days of the Russian Revolution, the Bolsheviks were much better organized and far more dedicated than the liberals who incited the Revolution.

>>509093602 (OP)
yeah they were kinda shit. the family wasn't actually russian. the russian male line died out a couple of hundred years ago and the female line, who were all german, took over. so once again it was the germans, because german aristocratic families only ever married other germans and usually their cousins. this is how germans took over most royal families in europe, despite never winning any major wars. and why all these royal families became so inbred.

there effectively was no imperial government. the tsars would not let one be established, because it would get in the way of the tsar and his people. but they were germans so they just ignored the 'people' anyway. so you had the military, the secret police and towards the very end the finance ministry, which i think was established in the late 19th century. and that was the entire apparatus of government. needless to say, not much could ever get done.

nicholas' wife insisted that nothing change, so her son could inherit the autocracy. she was german of course. we know how that turned out.

>>509097968
Okay, let's pretend that they weren't illiterate (which they were), they still didn't understand what will be the consequence of their actions because they were stupid and falsely informed.

>>509095186
and yet here you are.

>>509097862
>Stalin purged the jews
Stalin purged bolsheviks who tried to overthrow him. don't make him peaceful dove. nigga only cared about himself and his status.

>>509098084
are you dumb? before 1905 and 1917 was only French revolution. what they supposed to think?? people didn't even know what was happening and who are they fighting most the time. people find out about full Romanovs and last Ruriks wipeout only by the end of 1919