MASSIVE HAPPENING - /pol/ (#509105678) [Archived: 733 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: aJsHX9md
6/30/2025, 9:19:36 AM No.509105678
Bitcoin.svg
Bitcoin.svg
md5: 10c6c5a7b582abdfa95888660cb157a1๐Ÿ”
THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IS PLANNING TO BUY 1 MILLION BITCOINS WITH ITS GOLD RESERVES
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Anonymous ID: 5+HrMnkVGermany
6/30/2025, 9:20:18 AM No.509105702
>>509105678 (OP)
>WITH ITS GOLD RESERVES
pics or didnt happen
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Anonymous ID: FSHGVB9LChina
6/30/2025, 9:25:18 AM No.509105914
Will my doge go up in value?
Anonymous ID: v0l0secsCanada
6/30/2025, 9:27:31 AM No.509106018
>>509105678 (OP)
From who?
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Anonymous ID: d2z5EfyXTurkey
6/30/2025, 9:28:51 AM No.509106084
Monero is the final solution to the taxman question.
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Anonymous ID: UmtgZ5YDAustralia
6/30/2025, 9:29:33 AM No.509106121
>>509106018
Me.
Anonymous ID: /9ZpWkJ6United States
6/30/2025, 9:29:51 AM No.509106134
>>509105678 (OP)
Scams go to /biz/
Goodbye.
Anonymous ID: pXGni2QqAustralia
6/30/2025, 9:30:12 AM No.509106158
>>509106018
1,000,000 BTC or BTC ETFs?
Anonymous ID: ER78VX1YUnited States
6/30/2025, 9:31:03 AM No.509106206
1746672613220862
1746672613220862
md5: 4bce869c53e2b23becd50a08bff8ef57๐Ÿ”
What the fuck do they plan to do with all of that
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Anonymous ID: FNZluqnJ
6/30/2025, 9:34:13 AM No.509106355
>>509106206
HEDGE AGAINST INFLATION A.K.A MONEY PRINTING. BITCOIN IS THE ONLY TRUE SCARCE ASSET IN THE WORLD. ALSO PAYMENT METHOD WITH ALIENS
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Anonymous ID: v0l0secsCanada
6/30/2025, 9:36:16 AM No.509106438
>>509106355
>Payment with ayys
That's xrp
Retard
Anonymous ID: P14Sx2omUnited States
6/30/2025, 9:42:35 AM No.509106713
>>509105678 (OP)
its not enough though, the US Government realistically needs to buy atleast 4 million coins to retain their us dollar hegemony
Anonymous ID: YRmT7uLUUnited States
6/30/2025, 9:50:08 AM No.509107075
>>509105678 (OP)
our tax money is going to more jews holding bitcoin
Anonymous ID: ICZS4P+KSweden
6/30/2025, 9:51:48 AM No.509107157
>>509105678 (OP)
is that why the line is going down today?
the best news is the line and it currently says OP is a faggot
Anonymous ID: TS9IJxOP
6/30/2025, 9:53:46 AM No.509107262
Lads this is obviously fake but im getting a bit spooked about having ~30,000 coins from the early days.

What if they government tries to kill me if I put it on an exchange, I haven't even moved most of my coins from the old non-deterministic generated wallet.dat addresses
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Anonymous ID: y3mQpyHCSpain
6/30/2025, 9:55:01 AM No.509107320
>>509105678 (OP)
>with its gold reserved
So no gold?
Anonymous ID: EMHvSZFMLuxembourg
6/30/2025, 9:55:57 AM No.509107369
>>509105678 (OP)
source?
Anonymous ID: iGPg9KHwUnited States
6/30/2025, 9:57:08 AM No.509107417
>>509105678 (OP)
who gets the gold?
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Anonymous ID: /y4V60j0United States
6/30/2025, 9:57:53 AM No.509107453
>>509107417
>who gets the gold?
Hah that's the fun part, there probably isn't any.
Anonymous ID: /9ZpWkJ6United States
6/30/2025, 10:00:20 AM No.509107564
Screenshot_20250630-005915
Screenshot_20250630-005915
md5: 157604be7fe647daa3c1692738f99307๐Ÿ”
Gold mooning Bitcoin ranking op is a fag.
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Anonymous ID: /9ZpWkJ6United States
6/30/2025, 10:00:59 AM No.509107595
>>509107564
*tanking
Replies: >>509109450
sage ID: +oJNJktnAustralia
6/30/2025, 10:03:28 AM No.509107701
>>509105678 (OP)

Fuck up, kike
Anonymous ID: /9ZpWkJ6United States
6/30/2025, 10:04:26 AM No.509107756
Screenshot_20250630-010352
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md5: 15ce65aa8aae14d15118410b34de2281๐Ÿ”
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Anonymous ID: pXGni2QqAustralia
6/30/2025, 10:11:43 AM No.509108049
>>509107756
-0.7% its fucking ogre.
I knew I should have listened to the jews and bought shiny metal rocks.
LebAnon !!MiKAN6EPKv9ID: woz/lBYLLebanon
6/30/2025, 10:23:06 AM No.509108580
monero
monero
md5: 231972f4afea732bbe981756f98108ad๐Ÿ”
>>509106084
based
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LebAnon !!MiKAN6EPKv9ID: woz/lBYLLebanon
6/30/2025, 10:24:39 AM No.509108653
fuckkikes
fuckkikes
md5: c8e23118d5083cdc20955d08f4b6b620๐Ÿ”
>>509108580
if anyone can unironically help a brother at war out I'd be grateful
also, keynesian jews deserve the rope
XMR: 863z4PE1ZBzC6BEixibR1YYqZVX3mEXHoB9WuibmhURPAnXFGihSGHKEhPEM7qmFxpXtS2PJisoQ8HGX4MjEYt2h4y5zvLg

BTC: 3JgC5fXR4TLTCoNXDATZSnryaP8hLKSg2o
Replies: >>509108758 >>509111396 >>509112665 >>509129572
Anonymous ID: bBxkQy+fUnited States
6/30/2025, 10:24:47 AM No.509108668
Should I get trumpcoin?
Anonymous ID: p5ldRf2TUnited States
6/30/2025, 10:26:36 AM No.509108758
>>509108653
>if anyone can unironically help a brother at war out I'd be grateful
Are you Hezbollah, Amal, SSNP, etc; which one?
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Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 10:27:13 AM No.509108787
sell
sell
md5: 39cea760c9afa9f34dd6467357e44f0c๐Ÿ”
>>509105678 (OP)
Anonymous ID: r4nr2P9cUnited States
6/30/2025, 10:27:51 AM No.509108817
pepe-clown
pepe-clown
md5: 2156b757d8e7c22243d132e58e1a4850๐Ÿ”
>>509105678 (OP)
>largest shareholder of bitcoin wants to buy more bitcoin
Somehow I believe you.
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Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 10:28:53 AM No.509108864
>>509108580
lebanonfag are you still shilling moNEGRO?
it is token not needed, Bitcoin does privacy since inception, and does strong privacy un-linkability on chain easily since years.
CoinJoin.
all altcoiners get a rope and or get bombed
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LebAnon !!MiKAN6EPKv9ID: BWJnQN/DLebanon
6/30/2025, 10:29:08 AM No.509108877
>>509108758
I'm orthodox christian, but like most of my brothers in Christ here(maronites usually are pro-normalization sadly), support hezbollah and the destruction of pissrael
im fighting my own battles, especially since I couldnt recover from the (((hyperinflation))) crisis and have aging parents I can barely care for right now
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Anonymous ID: nMDy+WGYSweden
6/30/2025, 10:29:38 AM No.509108901
>>509106355
it's not scarce. You can create an infinite amount of shitcoins, divide bitcoins or change the protocol. It's a speculate bubble and literally only works as long as there's faith in it as an asset as the whole "the internet of money" phase died in the shadows
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Anonymous ID: nt7ACFrwPoland
6/30/2025, 10:31:48 AM No.509109000
>>509105678 (OP)
So who will they trade this gold with?
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LebAnon !!MiKAN6EPKv9ID: BWJnQN/DLebanon
6/30/2025, 10:32:17 AM No.509109023
>>509108864
meemeflag detected, opinion rejected
Monero makes the Juden seethe
and all you mentioned are OPTIONAL privacy, XMR is private first and truly fungible, RingCT, stealth addresses, dandelion++ and bulletproofs
watch sound money, safe mode on jewtube
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Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 10:33:13 AM No.509109055
>>509108901
>You can create an infinite amount of shitcoins,
none of them are Bitcoin, idiot
>divide bitcoins
you are literally a fucking retard
>or change the protocol.
no one would follow that, people do it countless time and fail hard - forkcoin like bcash

idiots like you stay mad and poor, lol
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Anonymous ID: wo1mDCSqUnited States
6/30/2025, 10:33:52 AM No.509109095
Not if the taxpayer votes against it l m a o get fucked criminal fag
Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 10:34:04 AM No.509109106
>>509109023
>and all you mentioned are OPTIONAL privacy
BASED!
this is one of reason why they won
you are too stupid to understand, sorry
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Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 10:34:51 AM No.509109133
>>509108817
>>largest shareholder of bitcoin wants to buy more bitcoin
USA isn't.
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Anonymous ID: nt7ACFrwPoland
6/30/2025, 10:35:12 AM No.509109153
>>509109055
Idiots keep to bitcoin when clearly this is something that can be easily copied.
If anything BTC is the proof that any argument against piracy is bullshit, as copied virtual stuff do not generate any revenue compared to the original.
I would use BTC as a line of defence in court of justice when defending piratebay or orther torrent sites.
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Anonymous ID: r4nr2P9cUnited States
6/30/2025, 10:35:18 AM No.509109157
>>509109133
Uhh yeah they are. Google it bruh
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Anonymous ID: P14Sx2omUnited States
6/30/2025, 10:36:36 AM No.509109211
1749089072033876
1749089072033876
md5: 533827d88767974c85177f241d2d0c77๐Ÿ”
>>509108817
>bitcoin shareholder
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Anonymous ID: sTwd3fukUnited States
6/30/2025, 10:36:55 AM No.509109227
>>509105678 (OP)
>we are buying 1 million btc
Who would sell into that?
LebAnon !!MiKAN6EPKv9ID: woz/lBYLLebanon
6/30/2025, 10:36:56 AM No.509109230
>>509109106
seethe more glowie
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Anonymous ID: drvaLEcINepal
6/30/2025, 10:37:05 AM No.509109237
>>509109000
Oy vey. Donโ€™t ask antisemitic questions.
Anonymous ID: IT2BQgK8
6/30/2025, 10:37:13 AM No.509109244
>>509105678 (OP)
Is this the same gold they confiscated from U.S. citizens in 1933?
Anonymous ID: r50E2TtXSweden
6/30/2025, 10:37:41 AM No.509109271
>>509109055
you hide behind a meme flag because you're shilling something you know nothing about
Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 10:38:12 AM No.509109297
alts
alts
md5: 3df717536f2e62cd9bf6e636e306c0e4๐Ÿ”
>>509109153
>Idiots keep to bitcoin when clearly this is something that can be easily copied.
yes we have around 10,000 or 100,000 copies of the project - altcoin.
all of them fail (in comparsion), Bitcoin remains the king.
and always will be

>>509109157
>>*retarded claim*
>yes it's true, google it
lol ok retard
I mean USA being so supportive of btc would be kinda based, but the fact is that it isn't. unless you think Satoshi is USA gov which probably is not the case
Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 10:40:51 AM No.509109449
told
told
md5: 719bd49e36cdfa4d900e6955494e6269๐Ÿ”
>>509109230
>>*stays poor while jews get RICH AS FUCK on Bitcoin (+10000000% in value 2010-2020)
>>*gets bombed by jews*
>>*jews dunk on him while he seeths and copes in basement*
>seethe more glowie!!!1111
lol
how about you make better life choices
or don't, stay mad and poor anon
you could be rich and leave country in 10 years (or do something to thrive better while staying)
but you won't

don't hang yourself in 2035 when bitcoin is 10,000,000$
or at least stream it
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Anonymous ID: UmtgZ5YDAustralia
6/30/2025, 10:40:54 AM No.509109450
>>509107564
>>509107595
>btc is down 3.7% down from all time high
>gold is down 7.0% down from all time high
Nigger are you retarded?
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Anonymous ID: 3xi8T82wUnited States
6/30/2025, 10:43:01 AM No.509109544
>>509106084
Monero is fiat horseshit just like bitcoin. A decentralized crypto backed by gold would be the answer.
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Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 10:43:16 AM No.509109561
oafyl625o4be1
oafyl625o4be1
md5: c8a7fcceb86b941275714b22fd3cd58a๐Ÿ”
>>509109450
>>btc is down 3.7% down from all time high
>>gold is down 7.0% down from all time high
>Nigger are you retarded?
nocoiners seeth cope and dilate because they lost the best chaince in their life
the irony here is that they could still win bigly if they join now
but still they don't

you just can't fix stupid, they remain ignorant on own accord
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Anonymous ID: 3xi8T82wUnited States
6/30/2025, 10:43:32 AM No.509109574
>>509107417
jews
Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 10:44:16 AM No.509109608
>>509109544
>fiat horseshit just like bitcoin
you are a stupid retard, who has no understanding what fiat is
or what decentralisation is

>A decentralized crypto backed by gold
now, THAT would be centralised.
such things DO exist. they are centralised scams.
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Anonymous ID: 3xi8T82wUnited States
6/30/2025, 10:47:02 AM No.509109749
>>509109608
Kys
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Anonymous ID: 3xi8T82wUnited States
6/30/2025, 10:47:34 AM No.509109770
>>509109608
>memeflag
>reddit spacing
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LebAnon !!MiKAN6EPKv9ID: wlLgzqKWLebanon
6/30/2025, 10:48:02 AM No.509109799
>>509109449
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210601-lebanon-crisis-among-world-s-worst-since-1850s-world-bank

nigger I'm barely making ends meet I just need some cash for medical bills I'm up to my ears in loan shark debts here and there

and the central (((banks))) fucked us, thus we had to create undergroung p2p economies to buy and sell crypto
fuck you and fuck keynesian kikes
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Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 10:51:54 AM No.509110000
>>509109749
>>509109770
>f-flag bad! text formatting bad!
ok golem
don't forget to pay taxes to support and worship your local niggers
loser boomer
>muh gold!

>>509109799
>bitcoin is... it's kaynesian
lol
spewing random bullshit will not help you in any way

>i'm poor
well Bitcoin is best chance to get rich, especially was in 2010-2012 extremely easy.
still is good safe but, but you must get some money to start, how to do that part is not my expertise
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Anonymous ID: L6cqtuoHMexico
6/30/2025, 10:52:05 AM No.509110012
>>509107262
sell a couple, keep the rest?
Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 10:52:57 AM No.509110045
346677777
346677777
md5: de79b11ec4151e5fde1f225a95b0998d๐Ÿ”
>>509110000
check'em!
on that topic, picrel
Anonymous ID: IK/G3zn2United States
6/30/2025, 10:55:44 AM No.509110176
>>509105678 (OP)
Bitcoin will become worthless once quantum computing and AI crack the blockchain. This will happen in the very near future. You have been warned.
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Anonymous ID: 3xi8T82wUnited States
6/30/2025, 10:56:20 AM No.509110206
1749765464314449
1749765464314449
md5: fad14196de74d6f220681c19dfca9a41๐Ÿ”
>>509110000
Fuck off jeet
Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 10:57:40 AM No.509110280
retard
retard
md5: e18274982ed01f3475030698e7e2744e๐Ÿ”
>>509110176
>Bitcoin will become worthless once quantum computing and AI crack the blockchain.

>>509109211
>>bitcoin shareholder

what causes boomers to be like that? can't they really not absorb new information? but they "learn" about AI... so, do they fail to filter bullshit from facts?
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Anonymous ID: FEWERb/9United States
6/30/2025, 11:03:02 AM No.509110563
>>509107262
Hire me as your bodyguard
Anonymous ID: r4nr2P9cUnited States
6/30/2025, 11:03:37 AM No.509110588
>>509110280
>oops. Turns out a real qbit doesn't exist. We tried though
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Anonymous ID: Oi+iITiuUnited States
6/30/2025, 11:05:42 AM No.509110705
>>509105678 (OP)
that would be a massive violation of trust. Gold has intrinsic value, and bitcoin is essentially worthless.
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Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 11:07:02 AM No.509110782
wiz
wiz
md5: 34e2dca32ad4ce8de8ad73c9a67761af๐Ÿ”
>>509110588
checked and death to (((bankers)))
>>oops. Turns out a real qbit doesn't exist. We tried though
it gets better - even if QCs would actually work one day to "solve" ECC signatures and/or sha hashing (which imo IS possible, in 3 to 300 years) then
- Bitcoin ownership of coin still works, but you must start moving towards new signature type that is resistant to QC (there are such solutions now)
- Bitcoin blockchain - the mining, the hashes, the integrity of blockchain - all is based on hashes. QC doesn't "break that" it just optimizes it - makes it faster - miners will start switching to QCs slowly (as they get faster, first ones will be slow), same as we switched from CPU to GPU to FPGA, now to ASIC.
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Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 11:07:52 AM No.509110831
>>509110705
>bitcoin is essentially worthless.
you can buy a house for 1 BTC.
>Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! *lies down and shits pants in a crazy fit of rage*
>NOOOOOOOOOO LIES!!!!!
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Anonymous ID: 8RAeS/mWAustralia
6/30/2025, 11:09:34 AM No.509110922
>in 50 years
>trillions in debt with bitcoin
>we'll buy trillions in you're still falling for the scam coins
Anonymous ID: r4nr2P9cUnited States
6/30/2025, 11:12:05 AM No.509111036
>>509110782
The sha really isn't that important. Its just obfuscating some identifier. Thats all its ever been good for. The complexity of the modulus is what is important. And the quantum computer guys never figured out that square roots are non linear. And an exact solution is the only solution that will work.
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Anonymous ID: 3xi8T82wUnited States
6/30/2025, 11:12:38 AM No.509111062
>>509110831
Look at this shill. Shitcoins would be dead tomorrow if the Fed died. It only exists because of them printing currency out the ass. Hence why it came out mere years after the bailouts. You will never convince people to buy your jewish math. Especially not at the top.
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Anonymous ID: Uv3ZeH9lFrance
6/30/2025, 11:15:10 AM No.509111174
>>509105678 (OP)
Couldnโ€™t the NSA just confiscate it, or is it too early to release that rabbit from their hat?
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Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 11:15:18 AM No.509111180
>>509111036
>The sha really isn't that important. Its just obfuscating some identifier.
hash is what allows PoW
if/when QCs are here, mininig will become much much much faster, up to quadratic faster (halves number of bits of the target).

> The complexity of the modulus is what is important. And the quantum computer guys never figured out that square roots are non linear. And an exact solution is the only solution that will work.
if QCs would work, then there are algorithms that crack RSA/DSA signature (get privkey from pubkey) look it up (Shor's algorithm, and similar, ECDSA like sec256k1 is very similar principle to RSA/DSA)
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Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 11:15:53 AM No.509111211
brainlet-WTC
brainlet-WTC
md5: 2d8f1f96a444d74fbed38eac79ea4457๐Ÿ”
>>509111062
>Shitcoins would be dead tomorrow if the Fed died!!!!!
Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 11:17:38 AM No.509111282
silver-vs-bitcoin-with-poltards-jews
silver-vs-bitcoin-with-poltards-jews
md5: ffbabac2df93f01fa2ded4dcda6fab2d๐Ÿ”
>>509111174
>Couldnโ€™t the NSA just confiscate i
they are unable, of course
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Anonymous ID: 8QnL7wiZFinland
6/30/2025, 11:17:39 AM No.509111283
>>509105678 (OP)

That would be soooo stupid move than it have to be fake.
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Anonymous ID: VxrnSQOVFrance
6/30/2025, 11:17:40 AM No.509111285
>>509105678 (OP)
in two weeks!
Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 11:19:08 AM No.509111350
bitcoin-2012-2017-2021-x20gains-metal20
bitcoin-2012-2017-2021-x20gains-metal20
md5: 8027f672504bc2b7dfb056a87fda9e30๐Ÿ”
>>509111283
>That would be soooo stupid move than it have to be fake.
everyone who hold BTC for 8 or more years multiplies their value massively
it is the only smart thing USA gov does in long long time
Anonymous ID: 6FtctWgHCanada
6/30/2025, 11:19:56 AM No.509111391
Anatomy of a ponzi
Anatomy of a ponzi
md5: e866f6bde2d3708542e94433ba3be3af๐Ÿ”
>>509105678 (OP)
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LebAnon !!MiKAN6EPKv9ID: wlLgzqKWLebanon
6/30/2025, 11:20:02 AM No.509111396
>>509107262
use monero tumblers
>>509108653
help a brother out
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Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 11:20:35 AM No.509111422
meme-that-ended-SETF
meme-that-ended-SETF
md5: 51897be21bf42b2efc3ab1f707e6dd9d๐Ÿ”
>>509105678 (OP)
2010 - 0.001$
2025 - 100,000.000$
>nooooooOoOoOooOoOooOooOo don't do that!
>it's a silly BAD investment, it's a scam!!!
KEK
Anonymous ID: 6FtctWgHCanada
6/30/2025, 11:22:57 AM No.509111541
hello sars
hello sars
md5: 4edf03abcd7f34cc6155d1b9635d4474๐Ÿ”
>itt
Anonymous ID: r4nr2P9cUnited States
6/30/2025, 11:23:08 AM No.509111550
>>509111180
>if QCs would work, then there are algorithms that crack RSA/DSA signature (get privkey from pubkey) look it up (Shor's algorithm, and similar, ECDSA like sec256k1 is very similar principle to RSA/DSA)
Thats what the QC's guys are trying to crack.
>faster mining because of cracking hashes
This is really kinda the same problem. You're guessing some value and its non linear. Until you have a true qbit the same problem will exist and there won't be a way to guess them other than brute force. Also hashes are worse because a hash is a one way encryption algorithm. There is data loss. I don't think QC's will be able to solve those. You just have to guess the number. All that said hash algorithms have been exploited a lot because they rely on prime numbers and bit shifting. But even you crack the algorithm it would be faster to solve it on a traditional cpu.
Replies: >>509111686
Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 11:26:03 AM No.509111686
1733345886146741
1733345886146741
md5: 6d12d97ef7aadb9a056d8a0a9cf7834b๐Ÿ”
>>509111550
>Also hashes are worse because a hash is a one way encryption algorithm. There is data loss. I don't think QC's will be able to solve those. You just have to guess the number.
grover algo.
you need to find ANY hash that is below some target (mining difficulty)
Replies: >>509111854
Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 11:27:31 AM No.509111740
>>509111396
>help a brother out
anon u can only help urself
get side gig or some other hustle

save money in BTC, be rich in 10.
(or some in BTC, some in XMR or what ev, probly will still work)
Replies: >>509112037
Anonymous ID: 6FtctWgHCanada
6/30/2025, 11:29:15 AM No.509111814
>>509110831
>you can buy a house for 1 BTC.

no you can't
Replies: >>509111909
Anonymous ID: 1O0EAciF
6/30/2025, 11:29:34 AM No.509111833
Why are there so many shill bots in every crypto thread?
Replies: >>509111944
Anonymous ID: r4nr2P9cUnited States
6/30/2025, 11:29:57 AM No.509111854
>>509111686
Yeah its way faster to guess on a traditional cpu. There is no correlation between a hash and its original value. Multiple values will map to the same hash. They get away with that because the number space is so large that its still impractical to try and guess. And sha will keep adding more bits to increase that space as computers get faster.

A quantum computer is very slow for a single operation. Their whole premise is about being able to factor large numbers. Thats the whole reason that bitcoin exists. Is because there is a really huge number that is composed of two other really huge but smaller numbers. If it can't do that then a traditional computer will be faster.
Replies: >>509111985
Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 11:31:17 AM No.509111909
>>509111814
>>you can buy a house for 1 BTC.
>no you can't
there aren't houses for 100,000$ in usa? in some nice village?
ok then a car, there you go

>a traditional cpu. There is no correlation between a hash and its original value.
I literally linked you the solution to this, anon.
google it

>A quantum computer is very slow for a single operation. Their whole premise is about being able to factor large numbers.
I know
Replies: >>509111985
Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 11:32:01 AM No.509111944
bitcoin-silver-can't-end-the-fed-sm
bitcoin-silver-can't-end-the-fed-sm
md5: aeff60e80d34060ca08c42b7c46b827a๐Ÿ”
>>509111833
>Why are there so many anti-Bitcoin shill bots in every crypto thread?
jews pay for them for the reason in pic
Replies: >>509112166 >>509112228
Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 11:32:50 AM No.509111985
>>509111854
>>509111909
Replies: >>509112112
LebAnon !!MiKAN6EPKv9ID: 3YgmlHYNLebanon
6/30/2025, 11:33:58 AM No.509112037
>>509111740
you fucking memeflag, I'm barely making 400$ a month and I'm already in debt to some shitty people
I can't get a good night's sleep anymore
Anonymous ID: Uv3ZeH9lFrance
6/30/2025, 11:34:14 AM No.509112055
>>509111282
Maybe unable to from other state actors like the Japanese
Replies: >>509112096
Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 11:34:54 AM No.509112096
>>509112055
>Maybe unable to from other state actors like the Japanese
almost all btc is owned by private people + private companies
Replies: >>509112178 >>509122129
Anonymous ID: r4nr2P9cUnited States
6/30/2025, 11:35:20 AM No.509112112
pepe_crying
pepe_crying
md5: e9bebdf3a5b58506728f250ec90d3353๐Ÿ”
>>509111985
You didn't send me a link you gave me some algorithm names.
Replies: >>509112457
Anonymous ID: nMDy+WGYSweden
6/30/2025, 11:36:36 AM No.509112166
1646119859433
1646119859433
md5: 065e711a40ae0a910516f6903410db56๐Ÿ”
>>509111944
most conspiratards are funny. Crypto-bro preachers less so because you know they just wanna make money by promoting more HODL bots
Anonymous ID: Uv3ZeH9lFrance
6/30/2025, 11:36:51 AM No.509112178
>>509112096
state level actors*
More specifically in-house production of hardware, or capable enough to properly and throughly vet it.
Replies: >>509112710
Anonymous ID: c9+JU7L3
6/30/2025, 11:37:10 AM No.509112194
1728286218696
1728286218696
md5: f72b348dc92db63f9824510028b743f1๐Ÿ”
>>509106355
>BITCOIN IS THE ONLY TRUE SCARCE ASSET IN THE WORLD
>HUNDREDS OF OTHER CRYPTOS EXIST THAT DO THE SAME THING AS BITCOIN AND HAVE A FINITE SUPPLY, PRETTY MUCH JUST A COPY PASTE OF THE BITCOIN OPEN SOURCE CODE FROM GITHUB WITH SOME VARIABLES CHANGED
Replies: >>509115631
Anonymous ID: nt7ACFrwPoland
6/30/2025, 11:37:47 AM No.509112228
>>509111944
BTC is pure jewish scheme right now. Since 2013 most of the BTC is in hands of banks and funds and (((governments))) are allowing BTC to exist and even pour taxpayers money into it.

But somehow retards like you still think it is anti-government anti-banks and anti-jewish creation.
Replies: >>509112397 >>509112540
Anonymous ID: xcBsqRuqUnited States
6/30/2025, 11:37:51 AM No.509112232
I have over 300k btc but I've been too scared to touch it after all those murders that happened a few years ago.
Replies: >>509112350
LebAnon !!MiKAN6EPKv9ID: BWJnQN/DLebanon
6/30/2025, 11:40:22 AM No.509112350
>>509112232
3 BTC is good retirement money
>>509111396
use tumblers
Replies: >>509112685
Anonymous ID: 6FtctWgHCanada
6/30/2025, 11:41:20 AM No.509112397
>>509112228
He's indian
Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 11:42:25 AM No.509112457
>>509112112
>You didn't send me a link you gave me some algorithm names.
I bet you can take it from there, you're big boy now
just 1 name, and this is exactly that, solves hash(N+X) < target, "quadratically" faster e.g. 1000 seconds instead 1000*1000 seconds
Replies: >>509112541
Anonymous ID: 3qadxQYaAustralia
6/30/2025, 11:43:07 AM No.509112498
IMG_5857
IMG_5857
md5: 6c02118bab48597f170ada26d8099243๐Ÿ”
>>509106084
Replies: >>509112555 >>509112665
Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 11:43:49 AM No.509112540
>>509112228
>>2010 - 0.001$
>>2025 - 100,000.000$
>this is pure jewish scheme right now!!!
wow ok thanks jews for making us most rich, better than spending 100 years working (instead work 1 year and then wait 10 years in BTC. well, now more like work 10 and wait 10)
Replies: >>509113211
Anonymous ID: r4nr2P9cUnited States
6/30/2025, 11:43:49 AM No.509112541
pepe_blanka
pepe_blanka
md5: 6318ae270ea389c70d3cb88ac1ff9d24๐Ÿ”
>>509112457
JUST SEND ME THE FUCKING LINK!
Replies: >>509112581
LebAnon !!MiKAN6EPKv9ID: BWJnQN/DLebanon
6/30/2025, 11:44:08 AM No.509112555
>>509112498
based XMR chad
Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 11:44:40 AM No.509112581
>>509112541
>JUST SEND ME THE FUCKING LINK!
sorry I forgot you're an American :/
here you go my mutt fren
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover%27s_algorithm
Replies: >>509112670 >>509112713
LebAnon !!MiKAN6EPKv9ID: BWJnQN/DLebanon
6/30/2025, 11:46:24 AM No.509112665
>>509108653
>>509112498
are you the same asutralia bro who helped me out when the port (((exploded))) in Beirut?
if yes I truly need your help one last time
Anonymous ID: r4nr2P9cUnited States
6/30/2025, 11:46:27 AM No.509112670
>>509112581
ty.
Anonymous ID: ZfLykKiNUnited States
6/30/2025, 11:46:53 AM No.509112685
>>509112350
bro can i have like 1 or 2 please
Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 11:47:21 AM No.509112710
>>509112178
>More specifically in-house production of hardware,
not really possible in real life
even military buys almost all stuff (at least compments, CHIPS) from China/Taiwan
Replies: >>509113366
Anonymous ID: r4nr2P9cUnited States
6/30/2025, 11:47:25 AM No.509112713
>>509112581
>O(sqrt(N))
still not fast enough
Replies: >>509112815
Anonymous ID: +q621S0K
6/30/2025, 11:49:46 AM No.509112815
>>509112713
>>O(sqrt(N))
>still not fast enough
all depends how fast is the 1 operation on QC versus on ASIC
but instead of
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 class operations
you need now
1,000,000,000,000 QC operations

if QCs are just 0.0001% as fast as classical it will be gigantic win for them.
anyway just mining will switch over, that's all

btw wik page says something is even faster still than Grovers, for SHA
Replies: >>509114128
Anonymous ID: nt7ACFrwPoland
6/30/2025, 11:58:41 AM No.509113211
>>509112540
you could do the same shit while investing in Tesla or Nvidia early enough.
So somehow stock exchange is not jewish because you can get rich out of it?
Anonymous ID: Uv3ZeH9lFrance
6/30/2025, 12:02:05 PM No.509113366
>>509112710
But a state level actor have access to the design and can check the final products against it. There are huge teams who are responsible the hardware works and are as intended.

While the average individual or even mid to high(excluding the giants and specialized ones) level corporations canโ€™t even build their infrastructures without firmware blobs, nor vet their hardwares with metrological methods.
Anonymous ID: 7I+lIWpGFinland
6/30/2025, 12:05:41 PM No.509113539
>>509106355
It is also highly speculative so they can just push the value to 1 mil per each and increase GDP so much that the current debt would become meaningless.
Anonymous ID: TtLl8KLqUnited States
6/30/2025, 12:07:33 PM No.509113608
everyone gonna leave the party when the feds show up and btc will tank and the government will be sold to FANG lol
Anonymous ID: tI5FnDOfUnited States
6/30/2025, 12:08:58 PM No.509113674
>>509109153
i think you have a good point
Anonymous ID: 0gDT99FWUnited States
6/30/2025, 12:10:07 PM No.509113722
1610849221548
1610849221548
md5: 327ec8370b167a6ae83d64293c841dc7๐Ÿ”
Is getting rich from other peoples labor really the extent and reach of the bloodline, soul, of your people?
Anonymous ID: tI5FnDOfUnited States
6/30/2025, 12:11:46 PM No.509113798
Gold sold is only to go to US debt
Gold sold is only to go to US debt
md5: 0e25a011223e1e593ff52651ca7cb4dd๐Ÿ”
>>509105678 (OP)
so this is a 1pbtid, memeflag, shit slide thread with no link

OP may be talking about Lummis bill that will fail

any gold held by the US can only be sold to pay down debt
I am now debating on hijacking this shit thread
Replies: >>509119953
Anonymous ID: tI5FnDOfUnited States
6/30/2025, 12:14:11 PM No.509113925
STRATEGIC BTC RESERVE LUMMIS
STRATEGIC BTC RESERVE LUMMIS
md5: 404ad34755c11bb4da4aaf487ccb6844๐Ÿ”
Anonymous ID: 0gDT99FWUnited States
6/30/2025, 12:14:41 PM No.509113942
1750760347209259
1750760347209259
md5: aa352b542f08721ba3b8f130b607df54๐Ÿ”
Bitcoin is a disposable gold coin that once you mine it, mint it, circulate and spend it you throw it into the garbage can.
You can never again extract the electricity, the energy that provides anything remotly resembling value back out from digital FIATslop
Fucking retards and your magic beanstalks
Replies: >>509118718
Anonymous ID: tI5FnDOfUnited States
6/30/2025, 12:17:30 PM No.509114052
Lummis back BTC by revaluing Fed gold lol 3
Lummis back BTC by revaluing Fed gold lol 3
md5: 890bea981ae3c7530845dec6213ca9f2๐Ÿ”
lol
the Fed can't even fucking cash in their gold certificates
and i have even more bad news: the Fed wants to ban BTC and make it illegal, then Trump can seize illegal BTC and use it to fund his stablecoin reserve backed by fucking debt lololololol
Replies: >>509114592
Anonymous ID: r4nr2P9cUnited States
6/30/2025, 12:19:21 PM No.509114128
>>509112815
The problem is the larger the value of N the less squares there are. Searching for squares is pretty much the whole point of integer factorization. Your example is way to small to demonstrate. Here is your actual number (1024 bits i think).

24530314801386143097288228953833347989121968231811910017474133400583908519719560616559757015201658254651293893506053727272116285139421783576149879730712249844456430264951965458856738762415982179867994218942658048760137013121332904301318250333142883671129990055781422671964994875981334817654651430919270672261562033153255500022690917779981996157953150852230360853771059592167162472272851160290301956083111698873288170933504894933128323730661985236968528893175291998617101369123545539070383701595270943603709838606157598446079582087682252144508427459200094717867224648245349796639319900089295515628451944332068131074363

And here is its integer square root

156621565569324274639824021869758414501306143529865863930079680264475127867011711012888301967502590980538818009290665246247557118175216558227456563156370670705455729650107909468334563423548083441299190931817987324201792259262778031717741661998273552826154577024123400218659884457932024651506405137388217797555

its still too large of a space.
LebAnon !!MiKAN6EPKv9ID: 5YVyXLwxLebanon
6/30/2025, 12:22:18 PM No.509114265
>>509108758
why ask man
I'm so desperate I held on to false hope
Anonymous ID: HwKke51WFrance
6/30/2025, 12:27:31 PM No.509114530
>>509105678 (OP)
and you are telling me this in an unrelated board??????

fuck off anoned banshee
Anonymous ID: tI5FnDOfUnited States
6/30/2025, 12:28:51 PM No.509114592
The Fed does not own gold copy
The Fed does not own gold copy
md5: b4ff826f0b5059693d47410f6701f764๐Ÿ”
>>509114052
>the Fed can't even fucking cash in their gold certificates
<<<---lol
Anonymous ID: tI5FnDOfUnited States
6/30/2025, 12:34:33 PM No.509114868
BTC FED ECB
BTC FED ECB
md5: a97dec2afafb86f2279294a04f86edef๐Ÿ”
Anonymous ID: tI5FnDOfUnited States
6/30/2025, 12:40:01 PM No.509115131
permanent primary deficits and BTC
permanent primary deficits and BTC
md5: f0d9683df94f07a0b9f6fc62a411dba2๐Ÿ”
lol
Replies: >>509119766
Anonymous ID: tI5FnDOfUnited States
6/30/2025, 12:41:56 PM No.509115215
Fed says BTC is not a claim to real resources
Fed says BTC is not a claim to real resources
md5: 64346b3b884dc4510e4b31642ae1f754๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>509119766
Anonymous ID: +x1zKj7rUnited States
6/30/2025, 12:43:44 PM No.509115315
>>509105678 (OP)
So Ft Knox was empty then?
Anonymous ID: jSeUC3izUnited States
6/30/2025, 12:49:58 PM No.509115631
the king is amused
the king is amused
md5: 0878f16971ffbe306e2a7209eca08ee2๐Ÿ”
>>509112194
>BITCOIN IS THE ONLY TRUE SCARCE ASSET IN THE WORLD
>CAN DOUBLE ITS CURRENT MAXIMUM AT WILL
Replies: >>509130804
Anonymous ID: tI5FnDOfUnited States
6/30/2025, 12:52:27 PM No.509115748
what the TPTB want is DEBT-BACKED stablecoins, don't fucking kid yourself

BTC provides three functions for the Fed:
1 the destruction of private non-stablecoin crypto use as a currency
2 a potential global financial crisis
3 BTC market price arbitrage to give one last fleecing to boomers fleeing the Federal Reserve Note

pic related:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/505237484/
^^^ A thread about the NYFed and its ilk now trying to convince the boomers to switch from private Federal Reserve-issued, debt-based Federal Reserve Notes to privately-issued, debt-backed stablecoin tokens. This is going to be priceless to watch. Neither of these currency options benefit the citizens, they only benefit the private issuer. Will boomers sell out once again to the banks to save themselves from a failing system that they created? One last fuck you to the country as they insulate themselves in their private tokens?
And in the next orchestrated crisis, are the boomersโ€™ new asset tokens to become worthless, as the payment platform is the ultimate claimant to any reserve assets in a crisis or bankruptcy?

When is the currency going to be restored to the people? Don't US taxpayers have a right to a debt-free currency issued by their own treasury?
Replies: >>509115780
Anonymous ID: tI5FnDOfUnited States
6/30/2025, 12:53:04 PM No.509115780
Screen Shot 2025-05-18 at 11.57.07 AM
Screen Shot 2025-05-18 at 11.57.07 AM
md5: f5aea80d6ed12b9aa49df139b3791402๐Ÿ”
>>509115748
opps pic rel
Anonymous ID: cHHQsb9XUnited States
6/30/2025, 12:53:41 PM No.509115812
>>509105678 (OP)
HOLD MY BAGS!
Anonymous ID: OaL1ofpYUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:02:59 PM No.509116296
>>509106018
Probably from Chinese or Coinbase, but why would you sell it. This will drive the cost of BTC up to 1million dollarsโ€ฆ
Anonymous ID: tI5FnDOfUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:12:36 PM No.509116816
Magical &#039;Deferred Assets&#039; accounting by the Fed Jan 2025
The Fed is fucking broke and it wants to back stablecoins with fucking debt. Let that sink in.
Anonymous ID: tI5FnDOfUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:16:11 PM No.509116995
Trump EO crypto FRIENDLY and no CBDC
Trump EO crypto FRIENDLY and no CBDC
md5: a66e6e7dd06214d030c35179f7a13103๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>509117116
Anonymous ID: 7KITn92yGermany
6/30/2025, 1:16:43 PM No.509117024
>>509105678 (OP)
itt: jew shit
Anonymous ID: tI5FnDOfUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:18:17 PM No.509117116
Trump EO crypto and no CBDC 3
Trump EO crypto and no CBDC 3
md5: 8642047a9c1ea7d3a0070612863dff63๐Ÿ”
>>509116995
kek
Anonymous ID: nmdd3yzEUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:29:13 PM No.509117696
>>509105702
>taxpayers fund the btc bailout right before quantum computers erase the value and then America is broke
seems legit
Anonymous ID: tI5FnDOfUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:40:27 PM No.509118333
Screenshot 2025-06-30 at 7.39.57โ€ฏAM
Screenshot 2025-06-30 at 7.39.57โ€ฏAM
md5: 99b3bc573540503fe8e883bd6ae8541d๐Ÿ”
Trump and Miran are trying to circumvent #2 in pic rel with forwards (futures for treasuries).
They are trying to make it so the US can sell its gold without paying down the debt.

Miran and Trump want for the major debt holders to swap their short term bills and notes for 100 yr bonds, they want to indebt Americans for the next century to the Fed (ultimately via tokenization of these treasuries (aka securities))

Reminder:
using cash forces these debt based central banks to serve the citizens
Anonymous ID: tI5FnDOfUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:42:18 PM No.509118436
ECB and BTC
ECB and BTC
md5: 3f40d733bd1f87603ac00a6afa7f23ca๐Ÿ”
lol
Replies: >>509130804
Anonymous ID: tI5FnDOfUnited States
6/30/2025, 1:47:48 PM No.509118718
Screen Shot 2024-10-02 at 10.19.24 PM
Screen Shot 2024-10-02 at 10.19.24 PM
md5: 8b6b41b6c8670bd1a2548507a22a3d0c๐Ÿ”
and the energy needed for both AI and coin mining will never be recovered, as this anon >>509113942 so eloquently put it
Anonymous ID: 1V88sFNaCanada
6/30/2025, 1:51:56 PM No.509118932
>>509105678 (OP)
What happens when their diversity hires loses the private keys?
Anonymous ID: GwHIdosNSwitzerland
6/30/2025, 1:53:20 PM No.509119006
That would cost something like 100 Trillion dollars.
About 200 times the US gold reserve.

So, no, that's probably not going to happen any time soon.
Anonymous ID: hOaC50HnAustralia
6/30/2025, 2:07:26 PM No.509119766
>>509115131
>>509115215
Thanks for posting this, quite interesting. So, the only way to persist with deficit spending is "non-markovian" enforcement... which means ongoing financial repression, like using a CBDC that changes rules on the hour, enabling a cat-and-mouse game where BTC can't be traded into the CBDC in a meaningful way...

Well... we always knew that governments couldn't control BTC, but I didn't consider that the fact that it can't be controlled meant that it represented an existential threat to governments, in that it prevented continual deficits (because, the prevention of continual deficits is surely an existential threat).

Overall, I don't think this is necessarily bullish for BTC, it just tells us that government coercion and financial repression will increase as the debt bubble continues on its way.
Replies: >>509121779 >>509122061
Anonymous ID: tHUeX7/+Switzerland
6/30/2025, 2:10:53 PM No.509119953
>>509113798
>go into debt to buy bitcoin
>sell gold to pay off debt
>???
>rocket science?
come on man
Replies: >>509121879
Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 2:34:34 PM No.509121254
>>509105678 (OP)
doesn't only rich people, banks, and governments owning bitcoin, and thus controlling the market, like...go against the entire idea behind bitcoin?
Replies: >>509121489
Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 2:35:55 PM No.509121338
>>509106355
>scarce
>convincing people digital information has actual scarcity

i don't really see how NFT's failed, but bitcoin keeps going. do people not realize it's the same thing?
Anonymous ID: hT7NWSdMGermany
6/30/2025, 2:36:50 PM No.509121381
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Anonymous ID: hT7NWSdMGermany
6/30/2025, 2:37:29 PM No.509121410
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Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 2:38:37 PM No.509121480
>>509108901
yeah this is what gets me.
>but bitcoin can be split into any denomination, it's not real. it's not like a gold coin wherein at some point you just cannot make it any smaller, it's a number, it's data. it can ALWAYS get smaller.
>nuh uh you just don't understand it bro!
>okay but what if the 20 people who own 80% of bitcoin decide to just change the way it works entirely?
>THEY CAN'T DO THAT, IT'S DECENTRALIZED!
>look up "bitcoin forks"

like....it's literally already happened lmao
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Anonymous ID: K7v4y5h1United States
6/30/2025, 2:38:44 PM No.509121489
>>509121254
Rich people are rich for a reason.
Banks and governments understand power structures.

Poor people had access to Bitcoin the same way rich people did and only the smart poor people pulled themselves out of poverty.

Now you just have nocoiners crying it wasn't fair when it was 100% fairly launched.
Sorry you didn't make the cut in the technological revolution.

You can still buy now at a higher price and you won't and you'll be even poorer as time goes on because your ego won't let you accept bitcoiners were always right.
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Anonymous ID: 3tIJY8SL
6/30/2025, 2:40:38 PM No.509121571
>>509105678 (OP)
They don't even have gold anymore, it's not audited. There is a reason Elon and Trump went quiet about Fort Knox.
Anonymous ID: K7v4y5h1United States
6/30/2025, 2:41:19 PM No.509121604
>>509121480
Yeah the users who ran their own nodes signaled segwit soft fork and the corporations/miners signaled S2X and lost.

Bitcoin governance works better than the constitution.
Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 2:41:39 PM No.509121628
>>509109561
but surely you see that's merely because people bought bitcoin, so the price went up, right?

so what happens when people just....stop buying bitcoin?
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Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 2:43:17 PM No.509121713
>>509109608
>muh buttcoin is decentralized
>n-no! there's no chance the same 20 people that own 80% of everything else ALSO own 80% of buttcoin!
>n-no! there's no chance all major banks own more buttcoin than me!
>n-no! there's no chance that by making my number go up, now i make (((their))) number go up even more!
Anonymous ID: FGZ+DH1nUnited States
6/30/2025, 2:43:50 PM No.509121758
>>509108901
I hope whoever gets to quantum cracking cracks Bitcoin first and double spends it, ushering in a post crypto world so faggot corners will STFU.
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Anonymous ID: tI5FnDOfUnited States
6/30/2025, 2:44:17 PM No.509121779
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>>509119766
<<<----lol the math
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Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 2:46:00 PM No.509121877
>>509111282
tell me from your heart of hearts anon
you REALLY don't think banks own bitcoin?
more bitcoin than you?
more bitcoin than anyone?

get this, what if they just took all the other money people give them and bought bitcoin? what if your bitcoin bubble is literally just....jewish banks buying it and trading it between each other?
Anonymous ID: tI5FnDOfUnited States
6/30/2025, 2:46:06 PM No.509121879
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>>509119953
your post doesn't make sense
i'm not going to try to interpret it
i have to go to work soon

A thread from a few Sundays ago:
<<<<โ€”โ€”-https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/504503488/
The now-bankrupt Federal Reserve is building a $2.5 B complex in Washington DC and funding it with borrowed US taxpayer money. The Fed is fucking broke and putting Italian beehives in its extravagant rooftop gardens and building private elevators to VIP dining rooms, yet bloviating about the importance of citizens being able to communicate in a republic. lol

To add to the elitism and absurdity, Elon Musk, with his toothless, empty threats on his way out the door of DOGE, glibly stated, โ€œsomeone should look into the Fed.โ€
Really? Is that it? What an absolute fucking joke.

It is fucking amazing that Trumpโ€™s economic advisor (Miran) wants to now indebt the US with 100 year TOKENIZED bonds, so we can be skimmed for another fucking century by these insolvent frauds.

https://nypost.com/2025/04/27/business/federal-reserve-blows-2-5b-on-palace-of-versailles-hq/
https://archive.is/fpJ4J

This project DWARFED all other government building projects ever.
Anonymous ID: hT7NWSdMGermany
6/30/2025, 2:46:30 PM No.509121912
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Anonymous ID: K7v4y5h1United States
6/30/2025, 2:46:50 PM No.509121935
>>509121779
The Fed's basic math is all fucked up and they're all like well what if someone breaks encryption?!?!

The USD is so fucked
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Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 2:48:39 PM No.509122045
>>509111391
i have no gotten an answer to
>but what if people just stop buying bitcoin?
from any bitcoin bro.

not to mention the value of bitcoin is still measured in other currencies, which means it's main purpose is to "earn" more of whatever currency you actually want, not bitcoin.

people don't buy bitcoin because they want more bitcoin. people buy bitcoin because they want more american dollars, canadian dollars, euros, etc etc

that's what it makes it a bubble. just like literally everything else.
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Anonymous ID: tI5FnDOfUnited States
6/30/2025, 2:49:00 PM No.509122061
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>>509119766
>Overall, I don't think this is necessarily bullish for BTC, it just tells us that government coercion and financial repression will increase as the debt bubble continues on its way.
they just destroy any competition
Anonymous ID: K7v4y5h1United States
6/30/2025, 2:49:31 PM No.509122081
>>509122045
You're an idiot who's done no research
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Anonymous ID: vsq099TV
6/30/2025, 2:50:06 PM No.509122108
>>509109153
Really, huh? What's stopping you from copying Bitcoin and just making yourself a billionaire then?
Anonymous ID: mjc7dOxFRomania
6/30/2025, 2:50:08 PM No.509122112
>>509105678 (OP)

Massive Happening, I want to manipulate the market and cash out on your panic buy.
Anonymous ID: tI5FnDOfUnited States
6/30/2025, 2:50:11 PM No.509122117
Federal Reserve Note NOT sovereign
Federal Reserve Note NOT sovereign
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>>509121935
>The USD is so fucked
NO

A reminder, Federal Reserve Notes are what are being issued to worthless oblivion and
>the US dollar is a fucking UNIT

We need to AGAIN issue debt-free, Treasury-issued US Notes like we did before (and during) the bloodsucking, obsolete Federal Reserve. We need to AGAIN issue debt-free US Notes that are pegged to a basket of commonly-used weighted commodities, distributed by a series of state banks.

We can:
1 nationalize Fed banks
OR
2 dissolve Fed and have a series of state banks
OR
3 issue US Notes simultaneously AGAIN and eventually recycle worthless Federal Reserve Notes out of circulation
OR
4 YOU CAN RIGHT NOW: use cash/barter/stack/use credit unions/use cold wallets, these five things IMMEDIATELY transfer power directly to the people

USE CASH, NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY YOU ARE IN, cash IMMEDIATELY puts the power in the hands of the people.

Real paper cash:
>is permissionless
>is private
>is anonymous
>has no transaction fees
>works in power outages
>doesnโ€™t need the internet
>don't need to be a coder to use it
>doesn't depend on another party having a device
>everyone knows exactly how much they have
>has no transaction limits or thresholds for reporting
>money laundering is harder with physical cash, due to transport
>is inclusive, it does not see race
>is harder to use in ransoms
>canโ€™t be hacked
>donโ€™t need to remember a password to use it
>IS the ultimate in payment platforms
>using cash helps people to save money and budget
>puts the power directly in the hands of the people
>keeps the currency near the REAL goods and services
>less paperwork
>is face to face, not face to screen
>makes government theft harder
>using cash forces the debt-based Federal Reserve to serve the citizens

Boycott businesses that do not take cash.
NEVER USE YOUR PHONE TO PAY.
Barter is the real torpedo to these fucking clowns.
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Anonymous ID: oHt8J3UaUnited States
6/30/2025, 2:50:22 PM No.509122127
>>509121489
OR maybe I checked and don't have cash in hand to buy bitcoin right now : ( $100 of btc won't make a difference
Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 2:50:22 PM No.509122129
>>509112096
lmaoooooooo
and you know this....how?
does anyone have any idea if the 50 biggest wallets are all owned by the same entity?
does anyone even know if it was created by the cia? lmao
Anonymous ID: 3tIJY8SL
6/30/2025, 2:50:29 PM No.509122134
>>509108901
exactly. it has divisibility but no physical properties, weight or utility. So theoretically 1 bitcoin is the same as 0.001 bitcoin. With other commodities you have more utility with more quantity but all you can do with bitcoin no matter the amount you have is divide it
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Anonymous ID: tI5FnDOfUnited States
6/30/2025, 2:51:10 PM No.509122165
LIABILITY SWITCHEROO copy
LIABILITY SWITCHEROO copy
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Thread from Feb 6th 2025 194 posts
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/496654194

200 post thread from Nov 10 2024
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/487963430/#q487963430

the great irony here, is the more cash the public uses, the more it forces the Fed franchises to hold the interest-free fiat as liabilities (aka CIC cash in circulation) and thus, making US taxpayersโ€™ dollars less available to be spent paying out the liabilities of IORB to primary dealers and interest on reverse repo transactions to MMFs

i have to go to work, good day anons
Anonymous ID: K7v4y5h1United States
6/30/2025, 2:54:15 PM No.509122300
>>509122117
You're asking for millions people to agree on something they don't understand all at the same time.

Bitcoin is the winner because we started this over 15 years ago and individuals joined one by one and Bitcoin stuck around because the system works.
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Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 2:56:03 PM No.509122397
>>509121489
>only smart poor people
ah cool so all those smart people who got mt gox'd, right?
i am never going to buy your bullshit. making people feel like they "missed out" is the entire premise behind bitcoin.

i haven't missed out on anything more than i did onlyfans, moderna, etc etc. i don't play kike casino games. i dont' care about making more money.

money is evil. we shouldn't care about it. you are doing the devil's work and benefitting only the kikes.

when jews are telling you to buy bitcoin, you KNOW it's ogre. come on man.
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Anonymous ID: hOaC50HnAustralia
6/30/2025, 2:57:21 PM No.509122471
>>509121779
I went over it with ChatGPT... from what I understand the key is they identify that BTC requires a non-markovian approach. This means they have to use ad-hoc measures, like shutting down exchanges, arbitrary criminal prosecutions and so on. It means there's no "end state" where btc is conclusively taken care of as a threat. For example, a foreign government could pose a threat if they didn't toe the line, but the US government could pressure them or even invade them if it needed to, and they would eventually achieve a state where that external factor no longer posed a threat. But, with btc, there is no way to ever completely eliminate it, they show that even if btc goes to zero, its existence (or some other similar crypto) means that the government needs to continue managing it ad-hoc.

But, from my understanding, just because BTC can't ever be eliminated as a threat, that doesn't mean that "markovian" threats (the ones that can be definitively eliminated, like foreign governments) don't pose a greater threat at the present moment. So, although the paper is interesting, it doesn't really tell us anything new. We always knew that perpetually increasing government debt meant increasing fragility and increasing risk of the government losing control. One thing though, let's say the USD dies and the USA loses control of the system, the existence of BTC (according to the paper), means that a competing government won't necessary be able to set up a debt based currency to replace the USD, because they will still have BTC to contend with, so they will need the ability to control BTC through non-markovian strategies (meaning ad-hoc, not rules based, not "set and forget").
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Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 2:57:49 PM No.509122494
>>509122081
>research
>if i can shill this and get other people to buy it, i win!
>if no one continues to buy this inherently worthless thing, it's value drops immediately

lol
lmao even
Anonymous ID: K7v4y5h1United States
6/30/2025, 3:00:01 PM No.509122598
>>509122397
Developers had bip39 going a year before mt gox collapsed.
Bip39 made storing and recovering Bitcoin wallets simple.

Everyone serious in the space would say don't keep your BTC on an exchange.

The Bitcoin network is audited 24/7 and if you don't have the coins there's no bailout or lockdown or war you just go bankrupt.
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Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:00:35 PM No.509122638
>>509122300
bitcoin stuck around because a bunch of boomers were looking at the best ways to make money in investing before they die and some jew said "buy bitcoin!"

the fucking hilarity that bitcoin bros think the people that don't own bitcoin don't understand it, but fail to realize 99% of bitcoin holders don't understand it either; they just bought it because a jew told them they would make more dollars.

the "success" of bitcoin isn't so much a reflection of the idea working, it's proof the ponzi schemes still work, even digital ones.
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Anonymous ID: MDGZN8nHUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:02:29 PM No.509122728
>>509106018
It's probably gonna be xrp just backed by gold since they won't have to buy it from the Chinese
Anonymous ID: K7v4y5h1United States
6/30/2025, 3:02:32 PM No.509122731
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>>509122638
You missed the energy currency invention.

You're thinking on the terms of fiat and jews.
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Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:02:33 PM No.509122732
>>509122598
>everyone serious would say don't keep your BTC on an exchange

but by that same token, if millions of people were NOT buying/keeping BTC on an exchange, YOUR btc wouldn't be worth nearly as much, correct?

ie, you NEED that dumb money to buy in, or it's worthless.
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Anonymous ID: hOaC50HnAustralia
6/30/2025, 3:02:37 PM No.509122736
>>509122638
The "ponzi scheme" in question is the expansion of the supply of government issued fiat currency. BTC's price increase reflects the erosion of value of fiat currency.
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Anonymous ID: K7v4y5h1United States
6/30/2025, 3:04:37 PM No.509122842
>>509122732
The market is made at the powerplant.

Bitcoin mining is a put option on kWh so it unlocked regional energy futures markets across the globe.
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Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:05:05 PM No.509122876
>>509122731
>the cause of all wars is gold
>21st century wars are caused by bitcoin

explain how it's different anon. is the motivation greed? is the basis hinged on "getting something for nothing"?

is the idea "you buy this, do nothing, and then you get more of whatever money you used to buy it"?

come on man, there's a name for this.
Replies: >>509122941
Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:05:50 PM No.509122911
>>509122842
and america is behind the times in energy production while china leads the way.
Anonymous ID: K7v4y5h1United States
6/30/2025, 3:06:16 PM No.509122941
>>509122876
Read the article first it'll answer that
Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:07:49 PM No.509123024
>>509122736
no it merely shows how many people are willing to line up and gamble.

>so you mean if i buy this, i will make more money?

that's the singular reason people purchasing bitcoin. if that is no longer true, or people have any reason to believe it may not BECOME true, no one will want to buy bitcoin.

i see more bitcoin atm's at the ghettoest nigger gas stations owned by the grimiest poo in loos. i'm sorry, it just gives off "third world scam" vibes lmao.

yes, you have made money and i guess that's cool. but so do whores lmao
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Anonymous ID: DLYLwQMEVietnam
6/30/2025, 3:08:53 PM No.509123089
>>509105678 (OP)
Dumb question: if there was no fiat currency to compare to, how would you know what a bitcoin is worth?
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Anonymous ID: hOaC50HnAustralia
6/30/2025, 3:14:53 PM No.509123422
>>509123024
It's more than that, it's:
>so, you mean, if this exists, then governments will have to watch it very carefully until the end of time unless they want to lose control of their economic systems

the corollary :
>governments will never fully control this, therefore I want to own it
is also true

And the prediction:
>If more people want to own a scarce commodity because governments mathematically can never definitively control it, then the value of said commodity will likely go up
is valid.

In other words, the only thing that's going to make BTC go down is if governments are able to successfully repress it and it will be an ongoing cat and mouse game if they try.
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Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:16:39 PM No.509123511
>>509123422
>governments repressing it is the only way to kill it
>this mong doesn't realize governments are shilling bitcoin already BECAUSE THEY HOLD THE BAG

lol
lmao even
Replies: >>509123656
Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:19:00 PM No.509123648
>>509123422
i am a complete retard.
please explain to me how something that can be purchased by anyone, anywhere in the world, with zero checks for identity, cannot be "mathematically fully controlled" by governments?

seriously, i want to know why the richest man on earth couldn't buy every bitcoin available.
Replies: >>509123975
Anonymous ID: hOaC50HnAustralia
6/30/2025, 3:19:06 PM No.509123656
>>509123511
Irrelevant, if they ever sell their bag then they will no longer be holding the bag. It's a weapon they can't use. They can occasionally manipulate the price but it requires constant effort, it's not a set and forget, invade a country and then you're done.
Replies: >>509123747
Anonymous ID: 6ELeKxrHUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:19:21 PM No.509123666
>>509109544
>fiat
look up what that word means
Anonymous ID: MPNTmq7yUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:20:09 PM No.509123706
>>509105678 (OP)
They would want to buy at a good price. Im guessing you are suggesting BTC is about to drop?
Get ready?
Buy the dip?
Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:20:58 PM No.509123747
>>509123656
>if they ever sell
>it's a weapon they can't use
except by psy-oping and shilling commoners to buy it, right? all the turd world poo in loos who bought bitcoin is the basis of the entire market right?

or is it the super rich whales?

or is it the chinese mining farms?

you tell me, i'm the dumb one.
Replies: >>509124160
Anonymous ID: Rl1KcJzCUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:21:12 PM No.509123761
>>509123089
Shhhh. Let them have this.
Anonymous ID: MPNTmq7yUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:21:53 PM No.509123788
>>509123089
Underrated question!
Anonymous ID: OrLyGQryUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:22:11 PM No.509123805
>>509108901
>literally only works as long as there's faith in it as an asset as the whole
So fiat?
Anonymous ID: 4gghjPzzNorway
6/30/2025, 3:22:45 PM No.509123834
>>509121489
>it was 100% fairly launched
Nothing wrong with the launch
What went "wrong" is that a lot of regular Joe`s did buy it at launch and early on as a gimmick or simply for "fun" and then used it as an alternative payment option online, just as it was intended, instead of understanding what human greed is capable of and holding on to it for 15 years as an "investment" and make tons of money on it instead
Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:23:11 PM No.509123858
>>509123089
YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT ANON
YOU JUST NEED TO BUY IT
SHUT UP
BUY BITCOIN
DON'T ASK
BUY IT
YOU FUCKING RETARD

>they don't realize they sound exactly like stock market jews because now they just are stock market jews and the only way it keeps going up is convincing more and more people to buy more and more of it. that's the only measure of value for crypto "are more people buying it today?"
Anonymous ID: hOaC50HnAustralia
6/30/2025, 3:25:02 PM No.509123975
>>509123648
>Couldn't the government just buy all the btc
Ok, so the market cap of BTC is over $2T. And if the government tries to buy them all, the price is going to be bid up a lot. But let's say they do it and they spend $4T. (There's also people who won't sell, dead wallets and whatever, but ignore that). So now all the BTC holders have $4T between them and that causes quite a bit of havoc, but eventually the government suppresses the inflation, but the government still hasn't won. Why? Because a new crypto with the same properties as BTC could emerge, and this time people will be thinking that the government will eventually buy them out, so there will be even more interest in buying it. So the "buy out" strategy means the government is continually doing a huge money print and buying up cryptos... it's a cat and mouse game and not a very pretty one. The point is, there's not option where they can definitively, once and for all, kill btc and any replacements, it will always be a cat and mouse game.
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Anonymous ID: eVjbLqKlCroatia
6/30/2025, 3:25:16 PM No.509123986
>>509105678 (OP)
It's a scam
They don't even have to try
Population is so stupid they believe shitcoin has a value
Anonymous ID: wRpXzJdVUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:26:34 PM No.509124075
>>509105678 (OP)
Wow wee! A whole million dollars!!!! What could this mean or then absolutely nothing at all?!?????!!!??!!??
Anonymous ID: hOaC50HnAustralia
6/30/2025, 3:28:06 PM No.509124160
>>509123747
You're saying government can control btc because they own a large proportion of mined coins, maybe even the majority of coins. Well, the coins they don't own are still being traded. So, the government could sell a lot of coins, flood the market and drive the price down, to dissuade people from buying it. But, after doing so, they no longer have BTC reserves to perform the same act. So people realise, "hey the govt can't push the price down any more" and the government is back where they started, they didn't achieve anything.

(of course, they government doesn't need to sell their entire bag, and, after the push the price down, they can buy some back at a lower price... but, in the long run this strategy isn't going to be successful, they will eventually run out).
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Anonymous ID: eVjbLqKlCroatia
6/30/2025, 3:29:42 PM No.509124240
>>509123089
Also where does bitcoin come from
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Anonymous ID: PnqHZTwaIreland
6/30/2025, 3:29:58 PM No.509124256
>>509106355
>faith based investment.
Lol I am going to be laughing hard the day it crashes
Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:30:30 PM No.509124288
>>509123975
>is over $2T
but what is THAT anon? what is $2 trillion american dollars? you can't just say "bitcoin isn't fiat money" and then express bitcoin solely in fiat money lmaooooo

they own the american dollar, so yes actually they could trade any amount of american dollars for any amount of bitcoin.

>a new crypto with the same properties of BTC could emerge

so your reason for why bitcoin can't be controlled by governments is that bitcoin could easily be....copied? and that one will only have value because people will want to buy it? so the value is only there if people consider it to have value, thus literally placing it exactly like fiat currency?

>a cat and mouse game
a cat and mouse game of what anon? what if they already control it? you aren't even considering that option, and that was the thought experiment.

if they already control it, the cat and mouse games only benefit them and the rest is circus for the peons to fight over thinking they are the ones pulling the strings. like meme stonk retail traders thinking they "defeated" hedge funds by purchasing some gamestock shares, it's all fucking psy ops to get people who otherwise would have never bought your thing to buy your thing.

what if the interest isn't there anon? what if no one buys bitcoin? you didn't answer that. all of your presented scenarios are still going with the assumption that people will be clamoring to buy more and more of whatever crypto.

and what if they don't?
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Anonymous ID: hOaC50HnAustralia
6/30/2025, 3:30:31 PM No.509124289
>>509124240
btc mining. It's algorithmically enforced. There's no central authority.
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Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:34:12 PM No.509124520
>>509124289
>there's no central authority
>that i am aware of

lol
lmao even
we got the king of bitcoin over here, he knows everything about it. no way the 50 richest people on earth, who own 90% of literally everything, also own 90% of bitcoin.

there's just no way anon.
Anonymous ID: eVjbLqKlCroatia
6/30/2025, 3:35:00 PM No.509124569
>>509124289
>Mining
From fucking where ? You mine minerals from Earth because they have an intrinsic utility worth
>It's algorithmically enforced.
Who created algorithm
>There's no central authority.
There's no worth either but somebody has to be behind those algorithms
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Anonymous ID: hT7NWSdMGermany
6/30/2025, 3:36:03 PM No.509124634
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Anonymous ID: 6+ruYtQyUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:37:20 PM No.509124701
>>509124160
$1,000,000 is not a "large portion" of coins.
It's literally nothing.
Replies: >>509125456
Anonymous ID: oDLXbQlJCanada
6/30/2025, 3:39:03 PM No.509124793
>>509123089
You're not supposed to ask this you're supposed to just buy Ranjeets bags
Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:39:21 PM No.509124811
>>509124569
here's where their answers start getting really fun
>oh well uh you see some japanese guy maybe, maybe the cia, maybe mossad....uh....maybe ai.....uh....made this math
>and uh....well uh....you see it's totally not controlled by the same people who control literally everything else
>you see the market is a bunch of third worlders who scalped all the gpu's for like 5 years
>but uh...also it's banks like jpmorgan accepting it
>and uh also it's totally not governments tho
Replies: >>509125339
Anonymous ID: hOaC50HnAustralia
6/30/2025, 3:39:34 PM No.509124832
>>509124288
By already control it, do you mean that they already control > 51% of the nodes on the network? If they attempted at 50% +1 attack then bitcoin would likely fork.

>you can't just say "bitcoin isn't fiat money" and then express bitcoin solely in fiat money
You could express it in terms of anything you like, but the point is the government uses fiat currency and if you make so that nobody wants to use that currency any more than the government has a serious problem, because they can no longer control the system.

>so your reason for why bitcoin can't be controlled by governments is that bitcoin could easily be....copied?
Well, I kind of messed up there... we can assume that the government will never own 100% of issued coins. They can't control all the wallets, anyone selling to the government would be essentially doing so voluntarily and they might reason that if they wait longer the government will pay them more, so they have incentive not to sell to the government. But, there are wallets that may be lost... so you know, you think the wallet is lost but it gets used at some point in the future. But, let's say BTC was completely taken out of circulation somehow, a coin with the same properties (such as its issuance controlled by an algorithm) should be able to take its place... this means, sure, BTC could go to zero, but governments will have to remain vigilant that BTC2 doesn't appear... governments can never be certain that the risk is gone.

>what if the interest isn't there, etc.
The point is that BTC and BTC-like currencies can't be controlled by the government, so governments will have to constantly play cat and mouse. It doesn't matter if a particular crypto goes to zero, because people will trade it as if it might go up, because they know the government can't easily repress it forever.
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Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:46:48 PM No.509125275
>>509124832
>they can't control all the wallets
i don't understand why you think this. again, you aren't accepting the thought experiment here;
WHAT
IF
THEY
ALREADY
CONTROL
IT

you just keep saying "they can't" but fail to give any reason why they already don't. you say "if they own 51% there would be a fork" but who would fork what? would it fork if anyone knew? you yourself are proof that it COULD already be over 51% (because absolutely NO ONE knows, and that's the entire point) and no one would actually do anything about it because get this no one would even know.

>anyone selling to the goverment would be essentially doing so voluntarily

right like when the government decided to confiscate gold, no way that could possibly happen to crypto, right?

and then you say "oh shit i will just hide it" and then they come back with "well actually we were in control of the blockchain from day one"

like people, even bitcoin supporters, realize the success of crypto greatly hinged on shit like silkroad to get it's start. you think the CIA wouldn't be behind .....the new way to buy drugs lmaooooo

>the point is....it....can't be controlled by governments....it....it just can't!...i-it's...decentralized!

you keep repeating the same wrong answers anon.
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Anonymous ID: eVjbLqKlCroatia
6/30/2025, 3:47:49 PM No.509125339
>>509124811
What I find baffling is that scams like the 2008 financial crisis and such stuff were made in such an elaborate way that you had to read a book about it to understand what happened.
This time they came up with the most retarded thing, like "mining digital coins" and the cattle swallowed it because it's digital and everything digital is divine.
At first it looked stupid to me
But then when everybody went into that and it became some big business norm I started thinking that the problem is on my side because I don't get it
But now I see the world has just gone stupid.
It's a scheme but some cattle will accidentally make money with it if they cash out before it crashes like every Ponzi before and then they'll eternally swear it was a legit thing.
Replies: >>509125466
Anonymous ID: PnqHZTwaIreland
6/30/2025, 3:48:19 PM No.509125363
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>>509109561
I own multiple properties.
Anonymous ID: pf8BFe8X
6/30/2025, 3:48:23 PM No.509125369
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>>509105702
here you go. bet you feel dumb now.
Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:48:34 PM No.509125379
>>509124832
look man, if you are looking to purchase ANYTHING illegal, i think most people recognize that the government in fact owns the majority of it.

drugs?
government
cp?
government
illegal money?
government
contract kills?
government

like you are assuming governments aren't into shady shit, when we know they actually create and control those markets.
Anonymous ID: sKX749Jk
6/30/2025, 3:48:37 PM No.509125382
>>509125275
Are you stupid or what? They don't control my wallet?
>But what is government controls all the weapons from guns to knifes to rocks to fists? What then huh?
What a retarded question
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Anonymous ID: hOaC50HnAustralia
6/30/2025, 3:49:00 PM No.509125405
>>509124569
>who created algorithm
The creators of bitcoin created the algorithm. From that point, bitcoin was run from a distributed network of mining nodes. All the miners are investing a lot of money and they don't want the investment to go to zero, so they make changes to the algorithm based on consensus (they upgrade their mining software, but if a miner doesn't want the upgrade, they don't do it, so only majority accepted upgrades occur). So, there is a network effect here, you have miners who have invested a lot of money and, yes, they are competing on mining, but they all want to protect their investments, so you aren't going to get the network killing itself. This is a fundamental thing about btc and if you weren't aware maybe that's why you were dubious.

>Mining. From fucking where ?
I won't explain this in much detail but the miners have to perform computational "work" (hence the energy usage). Think of the idea of complicated mathematical equations. The "work" is independently verifiable as per the algorithm. So a mining node can basically say "hey look I did this, so I get X BTC" and the other mining nodes go "yep, that complies with the algorithm, so I'll accept it"... So this, is "consensus". Remember, all the miners want the system to be stable, so they aren't going to allow their miners to run broken versions of the btc mining software.

>somebody has to be behind those algorithms
It's based on consensus across the network. This is an important feature of btc. No one can control the algorithm unless they control 50%+1 of the miners. And that would be extremely expensive to achieve, so not feasible (the required computational effort scales as more miners are added). Even if it could be achieved, the non-attacker miners could just fork away from the attacker nodes.
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Anonymous ID: hOaC50HnAustralia
6/30/2025, 3:49:52 PM No.509125456
>>509124701
>$1M isn't a lot of BTC
I know but I thought he was saying that the government could defeat BTC by buying it out.
Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:50:00 PM No.509125466
>>509125339
anon the people who tell me "i don't get it" never explain it because they don't either.

they just know "i bought this with x amount of $$$ and now i have more $$$$"

the only reason to buy bitcoin is the assumption it will be "worth" more of whatever other fiat currency in the future. just like anything else people invest in, it's just a store of value.
Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:51:04 PM No.509125529
>>509125382
>they don't control my wallet
what is the bitcoin market anon?
what does it take to sustain it?

now ask yourself:
>do governments control THOSE things?
Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:54:32 PM No.509125730
>>509125405
>you see it takes energy to mine bitcoin, just like real mining
>and you see, if the governments control this energy, that doesn't mean they control bitcoin

>no one can control the algo unless they control 51% of it.

lmaooooo again, we know like 200 people own like 90% of everything. 51%? you legit think there's NO ONE out there, no group, no conspiring parties, who might use multiple whale wallets that aren't seemingly owned by the same entities, to actually own 51% of bitcoin?

you are legit telling me there is NO CHANCE that right now, a controlling entity owns more than 51%?

i'm sorry that's fucking naive and retarded.
Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:56:09 PM No.509125817
>>509125405
>And that would be extremely expensive to achieve
oh right so only the richest, most powerful people in the world, like those who control governments and literally OWN the american dollar could pull off such a feat

lol
lmao even

so my thought experiment of "could this already be controlled" has led you to "well sure, if someone owns 51% of the market they could do whatever they wanted, but it would take someone with unimaginable wealth and i dont' think...."

bro
Anonymous ID: hOaC50HnAustralia
6/30/2025, 3:57:36 PM No.509125909
>>509125275
>Could the US govt have controlled 51% of miners from the beginning?
No, because in the beginning there were a small number of miners and it was transparent.
>Could the US govt turn on a 51% attack tomorrow, by adding new miners
This would be extremely expensive, but if they tried this then it would be very easy to identify the govt nodes, so the attacker nodes could be blocked.
>Could the US govt secretly take over the existing miners and create a 51% control without anyone knowing
In theory, it's possible, but the miners are very geographically distributed. Most are outside of the USA. They aren't likely to be easily bribed... so it's not like miners are going to keep quiet about it, word is going to get out, and then measures can be taken. This is sort of like a conspiracy theory idea, so many people would have to be in on it that the plan would be exposed.

I'm not saying the govt isn't involved, I'm saying that it's not feasible for them to obtain control of 51% of miners (that's 50%+ of the hashrate).
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Anonymous ID: eVjbLqKlCroatia
6/30/2025, 3:57:36 PM No.509125912
>>509125405
So to my question
>Where does bitcoin come from
You answer
>It's mined and algorithmically enforced
But to the follow up question
>Who created the algorithm
You say
>The creators of bitcoin
Well who the fuck are they
All that text you wrote and you still didn't answer
>Where does bitcoin come from.
Minerals and metals come from earth (or lab) because they have an utilitarian value, cash currency is guaranteed by the government but what is the value of bitcoin and where does it come from
>Consensus
Between who initially and what worth in money, raw materials or products did they have before they started it.
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Anonymous ID: 0gXz6EtfUnited States
6/30/2025, 3:58:23 PM No.509125967
1430268304854
1430268304854
md5: d9489c7d0552aa76d2f7c6c42eabee76๐Ÿ”
>>509122134
And what makes $1 worth 1/10th of $10? Is the paper the $10 bill printed on worth ten times the paper of the $1 bill?
Fucking moron. Value is what people assign to it. What the fuck good is money when it's not redeemable
>DO NOT REDEEM
for gold?
Anonymous ID: eVjbLqKlCroatia
6/30/2025, 3:59:19 PM No.509126024
>>509125909
>the attacker nodes could be blocked.
By whom. You said it wasn't centralized
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Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 4:01:38 PM No.509126144
>>509125909
>In theory, it's possible, but the miners are very geographically distributed. Most are outside of the USA.
LMAO
>oh it occurs outside the borders of the United States of America, that means in no way could the US government be behind it
bro
bro really
your arguments are getting weaker and weaker and you naivety is growing. you think the american government can't do something....outside of america? or that the richest, most powerful people in the world, who own factories, banks, real estate, etc etc in literally EVERY COUNTRY ON EARTH, can't do something...outside their home countries borders? what? lmao

i want people to please read this guys comments, because he seemed like he had it figured out, right? but with one simple thought experiment he has gone from:

>it's impossible for governments or other powerful entities to control bitcoin
>well okay, all they would need is like control over the power grid and 51% of the bitcoin market, and then they could literally do pretty much anything they want, but i don't believe that's possible because i'm naive about how much control these entities already have.

ayyyyy
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Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 4:03:48 PM No.509126284
>>509125912
>consensus
once again, that means 51% of the market. so again, if you control 51% of the market, even people who "understand" bitcoin admit it's game over.

they just don't believe it's possible for anyone, any entity, any group, any government (even THE government, and i don't mean america....) could have already done this, because if so somehow they would already know about it.

because they understand bitcoin, and they would be informed. no possible way secretive entities with unlimited resources could have already possessed 51% of the market. it's just impossible.
Anonymous ID: 1U8ycArCGermany
6/30/2025, 4:04:11 PM No.509126315
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>>509105678 (OP)
Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 4:05:16 PM No.509126372
>>509126024
blocked by whatever party owns 51% of bitcoin. they are assuming this is a bunch of third worlders in india and china who have mining farms.

they don't entertain the idea all those farms could be like literally every other venture, sure there are some people at the bottom getting scraps, but the entire operation is actually owned and ran by extremely powerful people that actually own and run everything else. and they get the majority share of the earnings, while keeping an extremely low profile.
Anonymous ID: sGUjeWBoSerbia
6/30/2025, 4:05:25 PM No.509126383
>>509105678 (OP)
how do i boughted shitcoins?
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Anonymous ID: iiINgQZg
6/30/2025, 4:07:33 PM No.509126512
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>>509105678 (OP)
Americcunt faggots fina bleed out they anus cuh
Anonymous ID: hOaC50HnAustralia
6/30/2025, 4:09:35 PM No.509126643
>>509125912
>Well who the fuck are they
The identity of "Satoshi" is not publicly known. But the mining software is open source so it doesn't matter. The original creator doesn't have any residual control. Control rests with the miners.

>the attacker nodes could be blocked.
>By whom. You said it wasn't centralized
Let's say 51% of the hashrate is coming from attacker nodes. The other 49% of the network are good miners, so they can decide to block the attack. In practice, they are all incentivised to block the attack. If it comes out that a certain miner wasn't blocking the attack when they could have, then in the minds of the other miners, they were just as bad as an attacker. So the majority of the good miners will be acting in self-interest to block the attack.

>Between who initially and what worth in money, raw materials or products did they have before they started it.
It's not based on accumulated assets, it's based on hashrate. So, every btc transaction and mining of a new btc depends on consensus at the time it occurs. The past history of mining doesn't matter, it matters what miners are on the network at any given time. Now, to achieve the necessary clout on the network to set the rules (>50%) you need to contribute more hashrate than all the other miners combined. So we're talking billions of dollars in operating costs. And also billions of dollars in buying all the equipment. So, is the US govt going to build their own GPU foundary so they can secretly create all the GPUs? Are they going to create their own power plants? It's estimated that the current power consumption is 160 terawatts per year... so this is what I mean by extremely expensive. It's not feasible that the government is going to secretly achieve 50% of the hashrate.
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Anonymous ID: eVjbLqKlCroatia
6/30/2025, 4:10:28 PM No.509126709
>>509126383
Ima rudnik u Zlatiboru pa kopaj
Bosanci imaju rudnik droge
Anonymous ID: hOaC50HnAustralia
6/30/2025, 4:12:41 PM No.509126865
>>509126144
>you think the american government can't do something....outside of america?
I'm saying there are btc miners all over the world and if the government starts to systematically shut them down then people are going to notice.... so it's just not practical. New miners would be starting up as the government tried to shut them down, it's cat and mouse.
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Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 4:14:17 PM No.509126984
>>509126865
>government starts to shut them down
lmao why would they shut down the thing they created anon?!?!
i'm saying the governments WANT more people to mine it because THEY CONTROL IT lmao how are you not getting it
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Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 4:16:57 PM No.509127153
all i know is; we get storms in my area. a lot. tornado alley.

when storms knock out power, you can still go to a store and purchase items. yes, stores with NO POWER will still engage in business because get this they can just keep a ledger.

and everyone says "bitcoin just a digital ledger" and i get that.

but it relies on things that are NOT bitcoin. at the end of the day, all your talk about "muh fiat" is kinda moot when i can actually use it to purchase things without other systems. i can hand someone cash, they accept it, and give me whatever i wanted in return.

how does that work with bitcoin? what if we can't access the net where we are? what if we don't have power?
Replies: >>509127860
Anonymous ID: S5SqDEJuCanada
6/30/2025, 4:17:09 PM No.509127166
>>509121758
There's many ways to kill Bitcoin. First is of course forging txn sigs with some quantum computer though there's a plan to eventually replace all the elliptic curve crypto.
Second is 'Satoshi' starts moving around his original coins and everyone will panic sale.
Third is chinks do a 51% attack since they now control most of the mining or it becomes too expensive to maintain nodes and txn fees are so insanely high nobody can move coins except by exchanging private keys.
Finally the whole thing relies on there not being some old and unknown compiler bug for c++ or some old c++ lib bug or some visual studio bug that injects malware in a build and the whole thing crumbles.

Climate jews are going to tax bitcoin too for req too much carbon/energy
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Anonymous ID: hOaC50HnAustralia
6/30/2025, 4:18:20 PM No.509127244
>>509126984
And I told you, for them to already control it there would have to:
>have controlled it from the start
not possible because early mining was transparent
>have secretly already taken over existing nodes
not possible because the word would have gotten out, there are miners all over the world, etc.
>have secretly fielded 50% of the hash rate
not possible, they would need a power plant producing >80tW, billions of dollars in annual funding and billions of GPUs, likely their own GPU foundary or some way to secretly obtain mining hardware, and they would need to keep this a secret and they would need to also distribute the miners around the world so that it's not obvious they're all coming from the same location. In short this would require a massive conspiracy and so many people would have to be in on it that the word would have gotten out by now.
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Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 4:19:04 PM No.509127291
>>509127166
>second is satoshi starts moving around his original coins

so wait....you are telling me....this unknown ENTITY (everyone assume it's....a single person lmao) admittedly DOES control bitcoin?
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Anonymous ID: mt9iVeJRUnited Kingdom
6/30/2025, 4:19:56 PM No.509127361
>>509105678 (OP)
lol
Team Trump are looting all the U.S. Govt gold reserves they can get their hands on just so they can make their bitcoin holdings go up.
Trump Team are simply One Big Looting Operation like nothing ever seem before.
Elect the Jewish Mob and you get Jewish Mobsters. They're not going to let this chicken go now until they've rung its neck, cooked it, stripped the bones thrown the carcass away.
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Anonymous ID: hOaC50HnAustralia
6/30/2025, 4:21:11 PM No.509127453
>>509127291
There is a relatively large quantity of btc in the original wallets, but btc consensus is based on the hashrate, "proof-of-work", so it doesn'tmatter if a large amount of btc gets spent, it will push the price down for a while but it doesn't kill btc.
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Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 4:21:14 PM No.509127454
>>509127244
>secretly obtain mining software
okay so that exposes company that....make mining software/hardware. and who is that?

you keep putting out these "well it would have to be....uh these people" but that's not really an answer of "well it coudln't be done" it's an answer of "well i don't think anyone could do it because i couldn't"
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Anonymous ID: T5yTtgKZUnited States
6/30/2025, 4:23:00 PM No.509127567
>>509121758
Spiteful nocoiner
Anonymous ID: kZbjpxx1United States
6/30/2025, 4:23:01 PM No.509127568
>>509121628
What happens when there is no more to mine? I doubt these huge mining operations are going to continue operating for small transactions fees.
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Anonymous ID: sKX749Jk
6/30/2025, 4:23:12 PM No.509127575
>>509127361
>Team Trump are looting all the U.S. Govt gold reserves they can get their hands on just so they can make their bitcoin holdings go up.
Holly mother of BASED.
At least by default we are in on it as long as we hold some BTC the value goes up.
Anonymous ID: hOaC50HnAustralia
6/30/2025, 4:23:21 PM No.509127588
>>509127454
the mining software is open source and the algorithm is open source, so anyone can implement mining hardware, but it will only be accepted by the network if it follows the algorithm that is agreed upon by consensus. So, there is no way to centrally control bitcoin other than controlling >50% of the hashrate, and as I said, it isn't feasible.
Anonymous ID: kZbjpxx1United States
6/30/2025, 4:23:49 PM No.509127613
>>509127453
Please answer >>509127568
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Anonymous ID: sKX749Jk
6/30/2025, 4:23:56 PM No.509127621
>>509127568
There is still transaction fee. Read a book before posting here again.
Anonymous ID: S5SqDEJuCanada
6/30/2025, 4:24:49 PM No.509127668
>>509127291
Satoshi mined 1m or so coins, never touched them except for buying a pizza from Hal Finney on newsgroups. If those coins all of a sudden start moving or being dumped for sale then yes there will be panic they talk about this scenario all the time on Bitcoin talk or at least used to.
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Anonymous ID: hOaC50HnAustralia
6/30/2025, 4:25:01 PM No.509127676
>>509127568
>>509127613
the txn fees can be increased (by consensus) to an adequate level to sustain the existence of the network. I'm pretty sure that nodes already bid on the txn fees.
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Anonymous ID: 7fwV9/9SUnited States
6/30/2025, 4:25:46 PM No.509127735
GmXuW3Ca8AM5922
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md5: dcdd2affa23702de8b082b8094d7e988๐Ÿ”
Crypto + Digital ID + Social Credit = A digital trap the โ€œGoyimโ€ cannot escape
Anonymous ID: eVjbLqKlCroatia
6/30/2025, 4:26:17 PM No.509127772
>>509126643
>Let's say 51% of the hashrate is coming from attacker nodes.
How do you know which nodes are "attackers"
Let's say the government just employs a number of "miners" to overwhelm everybody else. How do you in a decentralized system of anonymous Satoshis decide who's the attacker
>So we're talking billions of dollars in operating costs.
Billions to make trillions and billions the US gov does have
>And also billions of dollars in buying all the equipment. So, is the US govt going to build their own GPU foundary so they can secretly create all the GPUs?
Why would they ? You can just mine like everybody else, you can literally mine from home. They just need to buy a bunch of GPUs
>It's estimated that the current power consumption is 160 terawatts per year.
Total US consumption per year is 4 + terawatts so that data is completely wrong
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Anonymous ID: kZbjpxx1United States
6/30/2025, 4:27:33 PM No.509127859
>>509127676
Would that cover operational fees? Unlikely. See the problem with all of this? Is the difficulty was linear that might make more sense.
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Anonymous ID: ZFNax5HLUnited States
6/30/2025, 4:27:34 PM No.509127860
>>509127153
Most people barely carry around 20 bucks. Power goes out, no atm, no cash, no luck.
Granted this is why I hold cash but you're a homo if you don't have a nut in BTC at this point.
Govs will now buy it and it will eventually either back currency, or be used as currency as it will benefit their new holdings.
Anonymous ID: S5SqDEJuCanada
6/30/2025, 4:32:11 PM No.509128173
>>509105678 (OP)
Gold reserves if noone knows are allowed to be sold by a president only if it's to decrease the national debt. Trump is likely, as per his economic advisor, to sell them and buy foreign treasury bonds that way they pay interest which reduces the debt and they prop up foreign currency so that country can't devalue to avoid tariffs.

If he buys bitcoin instead then theoretically usa could hold them to offset the debt but the next Democrat elected would just sell them off to hand out gibs to negroes
Anonymous ID: eVjbLqKlCroatia
6/30/2025, 4:32:46 PM No.509128221
>>509127568
>What happens when there is no more to mine?
It's not mining, they are creating it out of nothing but my guess is they'll eventually pull the rug
Anonymous ID: eVjbLqKlCroatia
6/30/2025, 4:33:53 PM No.509128306
>>509127668
>Satoshi mined 1m or so coins, never touched them except for buying a pizza from Hal Finney on newsgroups.
He's like a saint
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Anonymous ID: hOaC50HnAustralia
6/30/2025, 4:34:36 PM No.509128349
>>509127772
>How do you know which nodes are "attackers"
Because they aren't conforming to the algorithm. It would be obvious. I won't go into the blockchain, but miners have to cryptographically sign each action they perform.

>US Govt has billions
Yes, I can imagine they could field the billions through some CIA program, but the resources are limited, they can't get the GPUs from nowhere. Now, they could develop their own ASIC miners and construct them themselves, but this requires a lot of people to be involved so I suggest that it becomes a problem of a conspiracy theory that too many people are in on.

>They just need to buy a bunch of GPUs
They can't just walk into the shop and buy them. They can't just secretly order them from nvidia either, they wouldn't have capacity.

>Total US consumption per year is 4 + terawatts so that data is completely wrong
Sorry, I meant TWh (terawatt hours).

>>509127859
Then transactions would reduce so that the cost of the network reduced... they also don't need to increase the hash difficulty (halving) if they no longer mine BTC.... or they could change the algorithm so that new BTC will always be mined at greater and greater difficulties, it really doesn't matter.
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Anonymous ID: TBabo0kJUnited States
6/30/2025, 4:34:56 PM No.509128370
>>509127668
satoshi guaranteed had several different wallets full of a million btc besides the known unmoving monolith. guy is probably a billionaire now.
Anonymous ID: DLYLwQMEVietnam
6/30/2025, 4:35:07 PM No.509128376
>>509123089
Was genuinely expecting to get clowned for this question, because I assumed I was missing something obvious.
Also, if every major coin exchange requires practically the same information as your bank account, how is it anonymous/decentralised?
I know you can go to physical exchange, and not link the key up to a digital wallet, but then doesn't that defeat the purpose of an electronic currency? It defeats the whole purpose.
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Anonymous ID: hOaC50HnAustralia
6/30/2025, 4:37:10 PM No.509128510
>>509128376
The purpose is that governments can't control it, so it's a threat to the system.
Anonymous ID: S5SqDEJuCanada
6/30/2025, 4:37:12 PM No.509128516
>>509128306
He was scared the feds would arrest him as everyone else at the time (egold etc) was arrested. Then Gavin was asked to make a presentation of Bitcoin to the CIA and Satoshi wrote a post saying he was finished and went into hiding. Never touched a single coin, he could have deleted all private keys for all we know
Anonymous ID: 11JVZLsfUnited States
6/30/2025, 4:39:10 PM No.509128653
Bored
Bored
md5: 9267f06b60421c8d29bec682b30f4388๐Ÿ”
Bitcoin is never going to collapse at this point..
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Anonymous ID: 2fX4lbOuUnited States
6/30/2025, 4:40:15 PM No.509128735
>>509105678 (OP)
why would you convert gold to bitcoin when gold is better?
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Anonymous ID: Z+Z7HdwzJapan
6/30/2025, 4:41:02 PM No.509128785
>>509105678 (OP)
they can't and even if there were 1 million coins available for sale the price jumps to $10 million per coin.

either way, for the badly informed, drones and bad actors, buy bitcoin unless you want to work until you die.
Anonymous ID: eVjbLqKlCroatia
6/30/2025, 4:42:48 PM No.509128903
>>509128349
>Because they aren't conforming to the algorithm.
How so ? They just need to employ miners that are no different from other miners except they work for the government
>but this requires a lot of people to be involved so I suggest that it becomes a problem of a conspiracy theory that too many people are in on.
They don't have to know what are they making computers for
>Sorry, I meant TWh (terawatt hours).
I know. You said crypto mining consumes 160 TWh per year but the entire USA consumes 4.5 TWh per year so that's bogus
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Anonymous ID: eVjbLqKlCroatia
6/30/2025, 4:44:30 PM No.509129020
>>509128735
The question is
>Why wouldn't they give you shitcoin and take your gold when they know you're dumb
Anonymous ID: rIKjNkBIUnited Kingdom
6/30/2025, 4:46:32 PM No.509129141
>>509105678 (OP)
Will they buy 4.76% of the bitcoin supply OTC?
From whom?
It'll be wild if they try to get via spot.
Anonymous ID: SsZEcxYNUnited States
6/30/2025, 4:47:03 PM No.509129180
>>509128653
Feel like the real money will be investing in stable coin companies they will replace finance for most people, look into Circle. If fuking Tether ever makes a stock BUY IT ALL IN. Mortgage your house too.

Bitcoin is essentially the crypto market and goes up with stocks probably similarly to Nasdaq now.
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Anonymous ID: 3FJfw26tUnited States
6/30/2025, 4:48:49 PM No.509129320
>>509129180
I want bitcoin to collapse so all the Cryptobros will start committing suicide en masse.
Anonymous ID: wMPi0AesCanada
6/30/2025, 4:48:52 PM No.509129322
>>509106355
>we programmed the digital gold to be scarce
>that makes it valuable
kek
Anonymous ID: eVjbLqKlCroatia
6/30/2025, 4:49:55 PM No.509129387
>>509129180
>If fuking Tether ever makes a stock BUY IT ALL IN. Mortgage your house too.
Holy shit what a Jew
Anonymous ID: qYe1LyWPGermany
6/30/2025, 4:51:28 PM No.509129486
>>509105678 (OP)
> 40 million 1-ounce Krugerrand coins
> or about a hundred thousand bars
I doubt Fort Knox even has that much gold.
LebAnon !!MiKAN6EPKv9ID: 5YVyXLwxLebanon
6/30/2025, 4:52:49 PM No.509129572
>>509108653
please, anyone?
Anonymous ID: BNcADGMxUnited States
6/30/2025, 4:55:53 PM No.509129778
>>509128903
yeah people act like comparmentalization isn't a thing and some chinks mining BTC would never be indirectly doing it for entities that....control everything else.

nah it's just rogue chinamen and poo in loos huddling together their 3080 gpus taking on THE MAN lmao
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Anonymous ID: hOaC50HnAustralia
6/30/2025, 5:02:22 PM No.509130213
>>509128903
>How so ? They just need to employ miners that are no different from other miners except they work for the government
An attack would be something like an attacking miner saying "I give myself 1 BTC" and another attacking miner saying "Yes, you may do that", but the non-attacking miners would see in the blockchain that the attackers hadn't followed the algorithm. The blockchain records all transactions, so miners that follow the consensus would detect the non-consensual mining on the btc.
>USA consumes 4.5 TWh
No, it's 4.5 Trillion kWh.
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LebAnon !!MiKAN6EPKv9ID: woz/lBYLLebanon
6/30/2025, 5:04:23 PM No.509130363
also the thread got surprisingly based
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Anonymous ID: hAEvTMosUnited States
6/30/2025, 5:05:06 PM No.509130418
>>509130363
How so, muzznigger?
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Anonymous ID: sKX749Jk
6/30/2025, 5:05:25 PM No.509130448
>>509129778
>nah it's just rogue chinamen and poo in loos huddling together their 3080 gpus taking on THE MAN lmao
Yes, and they win.
Well almost... they have majority of has power (and private based companies all over) but still rich bitcoiners vote with their wallets.
Anonymous ID: eVjbLqKlCroatia
6/30/2025, 5:07:41 PM No.509130629
>>509129778
Apparently USA "mines" 37%, China 21, Kazakhstan (weird) 13 % and the next is Canada with under 7%
Then a few countries like Russia and Ireland etc rapidly falling towards 1%
Top 9 countries have 1% or more of "mining" and they account for 90% of it, everybody else is under 1% and India is at 36th place with 0.03%, behind Mongolia.
China apparently banned bitcoin mining according to some outlets, other said they didn't but do have restrictions so idk what's true there.
Anonymous ID: sT+iNzMA
6/30/2025, 5:09:46 PM No.509130804
>>509115631
>>509118436
>>509122471
It's an enthralling cover story for explaining op's million btc purchase that has never been recorded. Are you sure that you feds don't want to explain all the bitcoin has already been confiscated and the financial instrument now only measures the average government's capitalization or cost of a bitcoin seizure?
LebAnon !!MiKAN6EPKv9ID: Tx5V1imdLebanon
6/30/2025, 5:11:17 PM No.509130905
>>509108877
>>509130418
im not a muzznigger
and theres some interesting replies once jeet bots btfo
(((fiat))) is trash
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Anonymous ID: hAEvTMosUnited States
6/30/2025, 5:15:32 PM No.509131206
>>509130905
>Lebanon
>Not a Muslim
Disingenuous sandnigger rat
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LebAnon !!MiKAN6EPKv9ID: woz/lBYLLebanon
6/30/2025, 5:16:57 PM No.509131326
>>509131206
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Greek_Orthodox_Christians
are you fucking insane
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Anonymous ID: hAEvTMosUnited States
6/30/2025, 5:17:35 PM No.509131381
>>509131326
Nah, sandnigger.
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Anonymous ID: 5OR71wl8United States
6/30/2025, 5:18:27 PM No.509131442
>>509105678 (OP)
NOT BUYING YOUR PYRAMID SCHEME!
Anonymous ID: eVjbLqKlCroatia
6/30/2025, 5:18:56 PM No.509131476
1738683895368307
1738683895368307
md5: 3ecc88d70b86cc4a0762327647cd948a๐Ÿ”
>>509130213
Wrong
LebAnon !!MiKAN6EPKv9ID: z/Ne0UdqLebanon
6/30/2025, 5:20:22 PM No.509131593
>>509131381
seethe more kike
Christ is King
Anonymous ID: 1V/wnJAVRussian Federation
6/30/2025, 5:20:24 PM No.509131597
Soo, all this bullshit about lead and wolfram ingots painted gold in Fort Knox is not bullshit at all, it seems.
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Anonymous ID: oK8it2heUnited States
6/30/2025, 5:23:24 PM No.509131812
>>509105678 (OP)
So clowncoin will be even more centralized than it already is? (((Satoshi))), Blackrock, Microstrategy, what the US treasury officially has on its books right now, etc, they'll own the collectible digital tokens (nothing) and the rest of the world will have gold.
Anonymous ID: eVjbLqKlCroatia
6/30/2025, 5:23:52 PM No.509131841
>>509131597
Look up "Germany denied audit of their own gold at Fort Knox"
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Anonymous ID: 1V/wnJAVRussian Federation
6/30/2025, 5:28:11 PM No.509132158
>>509131841
Lol. And now it will be bitcoins. Just bunch of letters and digits instead of physical precious metal. Scam of millennia.
Anonymous ID: ByCHZWJFUnited Kingdom
6/30/2025, 5:31:30 PM No.509132399
>>509106355
>le numbers on a screen are a scarce asset
lol.