Thread 509106715

*Jesus and his disciples are walking along the road early in the morning. Jesus, grumpy because he missed breakfast, spots a fig tree in the distance.*

Jesus: "Yo, let’s get some figs. I’m starving."

*The disciples nod, relieved that maybe they can eat too. They approach the tree, but as they get closer, they realize it has no fruit because it’s not fig season.*

Peter: "Uh, Rabbi? No figs. Fig season isn't for a couple months."

*Jesus stares at the tree, his face twitching with Jewish rage.*

Jesus: "What the hell? A tree that doesn’t give me figs when I want them is useless!"

*The disciples exchange awkward glances, unsure of what to say. Jesus walks up to the tree, and with a dramatic gesture, curses it.*

Jesus: "May no one ever eat fruit from you again!"

*The disciples watch in stunned silence as Jesus glares at the tree angrily. They can’t believe he’s that mad over a few figs. Jesus storms off, still grumbling.*

James: "Did he just…curse a tree? For not having fruit…in the winter?"

John: "Yeah, man. He’s in a mood today. Let’s just keep quiet."

*They follow Jesus in silence, trying to avoid eye contact. Later, as they pass by the same spot, the tree is withered to its roots. Jesus looks pleased with himself.*

Jesus: "See that? You mess with me, you get cursed. Remember that."

*The disciples nod, still confused and a little uneasy. Peter whispers to John.*

Peter: "What the fuck was that?"

John: "Just let it go, man. You want him cursing you next?"

*They continue on their way, all hoping they never have to bring up figs again.*

Mark 11:12-14, 20-21

>>509106715 (OP)
Figs were full of worms in the past

>>509106780
so cook the damn things god even gave you some wood to roast them

>>509106715 (OP)
Jesus wasn't even a real person, dummy

>pic related

>>509106715 (OP)

A totally sane and rational religion that took over the world. Nothing to see here, just humangroid things.

>>509106715 (OP)
>>509107218
>>509107642
Retarded atheists are incapable of understanding metaphors or any form of wisdom that is not imparted literally. Not only that, you’ve taken this story out of context. This story occurs right after the cleansing of the temple, Jesus condenms the corruption of the Pharisees. The fig tree is a symbol for Israel. The tree had leaves an outward sign of life, but no fruit. The temple leadership had the appearance of righteousness but was spiritually barren.

A lot of the things Jesus said and did were code because he was God and had been around literally forever.
So he's leaving future messages.

"34All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:

35That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world."

>>509106715 (OP)
He was big on producing fruit or being productive for good. He also used a lot of gardening and farming metaphors to make points that everyone could understand if they were not lazy or too rich to do their own work in the field. I think it shows a good example of how cursed your life will become if you take the leftist path and produce nothing of value except starvation and misery. This was likely a story Peter told to Mark to convey a message and in Peter fashion it came out as cranky Jesus needs more fiber in his diet.

>>509106715 (OP)
>Jesus shows what will gonna happens to kikels
>OP is mad about kikels being punished for being kikels

Reminder that Iran is loosing.

>>509106715 (OP)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZftML6pAv7E

“…Christ was the Immortal Spirit in man… It did not and could not depend on any single manifestation in one historic personality.”

Historic Christianity originated with turning the…teachings inside out and externalizing the mythical allegory in a personal human history.…a huge and hideous mistake…”


“Christianity took the type figure of the divine in man for the Divine Man. It exalted the alleged Divine Man…but left the divine in man to grovel in the dust…

…it shifted the center of gravity, so to say, from the cult of the Christ within to that of the Christ without, or from the Christ as principle to Christ as a man.”

hmm...

>>509107924
who has divine authority? who created that fig tree and humanity?

your jew book keeps failing its internal logic

>>509108491
No, anon you're just unable to know or understand this as the Bible said you wouldn't be able to as you lack faith.
Your brain is not built right for this.

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>>509108092
The text literally says that the tree didn't have fruit because it wasn't fruit season yet. No reasonable person would have expected the tree to have fruit in the winter. If this was a metaphor, then the author is a shit writer and has totally undermined the point he was trying to make.

>>509106715 (OP)
>Jesus: "May no one ever eat fruit from you again!"
kek, jesus was hangry

>>509108639
There's a principle in the Bible that unless a man is reborn in spirit, he can't know or understand these kinds of things.
There's nothing to be done about it.
No combination of words will convey to you the understanding or knowing of things of the Spirit of God because your brain won't hold it.

>>509108491
Determinist has trouble understanding the concept of free will, news at 11. You can take shots at God for denying responsibility for the world but saying it's a failure of logic is foolish.

>>509107924
Don’t cast pearls amongst swine, they don’t want to understand but to rather justify their confusion. They’ve made their intentions known, so move on. The message is clear only to those ready and able to receive.

>>509106715 (OP)
>Doesn’t know how fig trees work
Fig trees start fruiting before they grow leaves, and by the time the leaves are fully grown you expect the fruits to be ripe, it’s unnatural for a fig tree to have leaves and not fruits.

>>509108582
>no explanation
>trust me bro
Yes I actually have a brain

You just swallow jewish lies lol

>>509108812
rare flag

>>509108818
There were perfectly serviceable explanations in this thread already.
You do not have the capacity to know or understand them.

>>509108731
There is a principle in reality called confirmation bias, in which people reshape their perception to fit the things they already believe.

You are saying these things will only make sense if you already believe them. No combination of words will get through to you because you are just too retarded.

>>509108755
free will is denied in the bible (Romans 9 11-23)

omniscient jewgod creator negates free will

free will is always a nonsensical evangelical cope to deflect how retarded your religion is

you can kill yourself now

>>509106780
Figs require wasps to pollinate and they burrow into the fig and die in there and then when you eat the fig you eat a dead wasp.

>>509107924
But how can you expect a fig tree to have fruits off-season? It was literally created by God this way, you can't even blame it on free will like with people.
It's just a dumb metaphor then.

>>509108818
Jews Hated Jesus then, and they Hate him now. The Sons of Today are no different from their Fathers. Why would they peddle a story that goes against their beliefs?

>>509108731
>my cult says people who don't agree with me are evil evil satanic reprobates
>I can't argue against any of their points so I'll just claim they don't understand and feel invincible in my ignorance

>>509108731
>There's a principle in the Bible that unless a man is reborn in spirit, he can't know or understand these kinds of things.
Scripture doesn't say that. It says: Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. [John 3:5]

That refers to the sacrament of baptism.

>>509108874
The wonderful thing about God not making his presence obvious and actually hiding himself from people like you is you can look at me and see a fool and know you're right.
And I will look right back at you and see a fool and know I'm right.
And we both get a kick out of it.
But yeah, there were already good explanations, you just can't possibly know or understand them per God's word so why try?
If anything, you should be striving to understand to prove God wrong, but we both know that won't happen.

>>509108755
A fig tree has free will to grow fruit off-season?

>>509106715 (OP)
Jews love blasphemy.

>>509108945
No I'm supposed to love you anyway and preach the gospel and if you can't get it I'm supposed to move on.
harmless as a dove and as wise as a snake.

>>509108974
It does.

“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.”

>>509108939
>NOOO GOYIM DONT WORSHIP JEWS

>NOOO DONT SPREAD JEWISH MYTHOLOGY AS GODS WORD

>NOOO DONT GIVE ISRAEL INFINITE FREE SUPPORT

>NOOO DONT SUBSCRIBE TO A RELIGION THAT STATES JEWS ARE GODS CHOSEN

>NOOO DONT WORSHIP A RABBI

>>509108755
The concept of free will is also incompatible with an omniscient and omnipotent God. Your worldview actually has more problems with free will than mine.

Even if you take God out of the equation and assumed you have a supernatural will, (ie a soul), you still have the same problem as the determinist. You don't control what that soul wants.

>>509109039
you're just a disingenuous jew and we both know it

>>509108878
>free will is denied in the bible
Absurd. If free will does not exist then no one can be held accountable and sin can not exist.
>(Romans 9 11-23)
Romans 9 is Paul explaining to the Jews why Israel lost the favor of God, and why the old covenant is gone.
>omniscient jewgod creator negates free will
Did it occur to you that God exists outside of time? Maybe think about it for a while.
>free will is always a nonsensical evangelical cope to deflect how retarded your religion is
uh oh melty
>you can kill yourself now
You say that, but if you're right then I literally can't.

>>509109132
So you do acknowledge christianity's origin in judaism?

>>509109061
You're right of course but Christians have a boner for free will.
God allows them to believe in it so that's his will.
Doesn't really matter if free will exists or not. If I had a free will, I'd just hand it to God to use better than me.

>>509109104
Ad hom isn't an argument, it's a concession that you have nothing to say.
I could get upset and correct you or gloat that I'm better than you.
If I gloat, you further disgracing yourself will only make me feel good and you'll be forced to argue in good faith, which will also make me feel good.
So that's what I'll do.
I call it smug spirituality, feels like a blowjob.

>>509106715 (OP)
Jesus is a faggot jew

>>509109132
just outright lying lol

Romans 9 11-23 denies free will exists. cope all you want.

>god exists outside of time
And? why christkikes think they can just deploy every obfuscation possible and it'll trick people into worshiping their cosmic kike

>>509109061
>The concept of free will is also incompatible with an omniscient and omnipotent God.
Not at all. Omniscience is the ability to know everything that can happen, is happening, and has happened. God is outside of time, which means God exists above causality. I'd recommend reading into quantum mechanics sometime it's fascinating.
>>509109184
I acknowledge that Christianity exists to destroy Judaism.

>>509109053
If you read the Bible, do you think the Jesus of that time would like Israel/Jews today?

>>509109194
nope

you acted like a jew and I pointed it out

still no argument other semantics and alluding to solutions that don't exist christkike

>>509109198
>Romans 9 11-23 denies free will exists.
And yet you refuse to construct an argument in favor of your interpretation. You simply repeat an ignorant statement. Pathetic, really.

Faithless niggers cant interpret what Jesus did despite being told outright later on.
Must suck being a damned spiritlet nigger who will spend the rest of eternity in hellfire.

When I contemplate whether motion is continuous or discreet, how everything is a field not particles, how consciousness is fundamental, and how there are greater things that can't even be properly conceptualized without access to altered states of consciousness like DMT gives you, I'm really disappointed in how small-minded, mundane, and disappointing the Abrahamic religions are. There shouldn't be a ton of religions, there should only be the pursuit of truth, and the demonstration thereof.

>>509109212
lol, any 2000+ years now XD

>>509109259
That's right baby double down on your stupidity.
Make me look great by comparison.
It feels so good.
Hnnnng

>>509106715 (OP)
Kek

>>509109245
he's literally a jewish supremacist narcissist who deluded himself he is the king of the world/goyim

>>509109301
everyone can see you're a coward bro lol

>valid points
>dodged
>christkike
>coping

>>509109299
Judea ceased to exist in 136 AD. Modern Israel is a LARP.

>>509109313
What did he say immediately before that?

>>509109275
anyone can read it and come to the conclusion you are an idiot and that your religion denies free will exists

you can't escape the truth

>>509109061
We are made in Gods image, but we are fleshly being. Being in Gods Image, we are granted free will with which we can choose to be our own Gods OR submit to God through Jesus.

>>509109383
Still no attempt at a structurally valid argument, or any kind of reasoning at all. Sad. Desperate, even.

>>509109377
>you groveled enough canaanite DOG! I'll heal your daughter now because I, a gracious jew, will still give you scraps.

>>509109347
You made no points.
You just said "u talk like jew hue hue hue"
because you have nothing
now continue to glaze me or correct your behavior, either way, I feel great.

>>509108009
So Jesus is playing 4D chess you say?

>>509109431
>if I lie enough times I might save myself

lol nope. anyone read Romans 9 11-23 and laugh at any christkike trying to gaslight you with free will

>you are saved by grace not by works
>no man can come to Jesus unless the father draws him

even salvation isn't your decision but jewgod's arbitrary choice lmao

>>509108979
Everyone knows God can't be disproven logically. But neither can he be proven logically (beyond the vague sense that the universe probably had a starting point), and that's what it's going to take for me.

That or I personally am going to need to experience an unambiguous miracle, but I'm not holding my breath for that.

>>509109313
Are you Cherry Picking, he was pissed at the Jews and opened the Kingdom of heaven to All who seek it. Jew are now kinda like the deadbeat Uncle who HAS to get invited to all the parties, but it kinda weird now. They were the original chosen people, through them the lineage of Jesus had to have come

>>509108812
NIGGER THE BIBLE SAY DIRECTLY that it is not fig season.

Christians, damn it...

>>509109494
More like pretty much everything he said had multiple meanings.
not interpretations, actual meanings.
It should come as no shock then that his actions were also communication of various messages
>flipping the tables anyone?

>>509109431
christkike coping

still no argument btw other than

>y-you j-just d-don't have the holy spirit

LMAO

>>509108491
>if god exist how come bad thing happen

>>509109513

Wrong! Only you can save yourself.

>>509108874
No sentient person approaches an outer phenomena without already having a set of beliefs, and using those beliefs to process what they sense.

The "confirmation bias" argument is pure seethe that amounts to throwing a tantrum because the other person holds beliefs you simply do not like.

>>509108639
No, retard, this is not the original text.

>>509109534
what kingdom?

the heavenly kingdom that's supposed to be in the sky according to biblical prophets and jesus?

we can fly planes up there now. there's no jewsus palace bro.

>>509109212
That is why I included omnipotence along with omniscience. If you don't believe God is omnipotent than free will is perfectly possible, except that you still need to grapple with the fact that you don't choose your core desires.

By the way, if you're willing to accept a God that's free from causality than why not a whole universe? If the idea of infinite time is weird to you than maybe it's circular, idk

>>509109517
God has to be experienced for yourself.
I used to be an atheist and today i'm not just a Christian, I don't even consider myself human.
But that's a Bible lesson for another time.
Jesus said ask and it will be given, seek and ye will find, knock and it will be answered unto you.
That's what you should try imo.
I'll even give you some help I never got, God doesn't answer with words like a person.
At best, you'll feel a slightly pleasant feeling you could chalk up to being comfy.
But in the fullness of time, he will make himself clear to you if you ask.
Dude's a paranormal bean and it's not a joke.

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>>509109582
So, in your deranged worldview, altruism should buy you a ticket into heaven? No wonder you're so viciously stupid.

Reading online, apparently the fig tree is a metaphor for the Temple and the Pharisees. That said it's a really shitty metaphor, plus it implies superpowers in Jesus that make no fucking sense, why didn't he directly curse the Pharisees instead? It comes off as petty and passive aggressive.

Again this thing about Jesus having superpowers is honestly the only basis for Christianism existing, but if you ask for miracles and a direct proof of God superpower today you get called an asshole and told you have to believe.

But Jesus was always displaying his superpowers, so clearly nobody would have given a shit if they didn't witness the superpowers, which gave him the authority to preach.

>>509109582

I wish that you morons would learn something from me for a change.

>>509109602
>2000 years later christjews still in shambles over a basic logic experiment

>>509109556
You are retarded. That's just historical context, seasons are not fucking laws that plants have to obey. We force plants to get around that literally all the time. THE BIBLE SAID DIRECTLY THAT IT HAD LEAVES ON IT NIGGER.

>>509109696
>arguing with himself

mindbroken christ golem

>>509109562
So the interpretation is up to the reader?
Intresting, I bet noone ever would use that to their advantage...
You see, if you write in such a style you want the reader to activate his head. But in the bible it is used to muddy the water and control people because "Its THE WORD OF THE LORD" (which it is not)

I am honestly growing a passion for hating christians, it almost feels pathological.

>>509109517
You cannot believe without Faith, you have to truly be seeking God, with genuine desire. If you go into only looking for and expecting a sign, God will not provide that, that’s contingent belief which would never work. You can never have all the answers, I believe we cannot comprehend it has Humans, the Bible says their is a veil over us, and it’s a veil of protection in a sense, but I believe the veil is partly composed of Faith.

>>509109723
The problem of evil is so easy to solve bro.
>why do bad things exist
Who says they're bad?
>I do.
Ok, well God says they're good.
Good enough to happen on his planet anyway.
Guess who's right?
You or God?

>>509108755
Since when do plants have free will?

>>509106715 (OP)
>"You mess with me, you get cursed. Remember that."
This.

>>509109692
lol
Lmao.. even

>>509107924
The Bible specifies that it was not the season for figs, which, playing into the gay metaphor, would mean that God's expectations are completely unreasonable and impossible to satisfy

>>509109778
I explicitly said "not interpretation, meanings"
As in Jesus will say one thing and mean 3 things and they're all valid interpretations and what he meant.

>>509108880
Those bastards can grow fruit whenever the want, they just choose not to. Time for total fig tree death.

>>509109820
>fails bible internal logic again

bible states which things are good and bad. next.

>>509109795
>you have to truly be seeking God

So you follow only his laws and commandments?

>>509109562
Yes I find it amazing how the same Bible stories can have many meaning based on where you are in life, yet the literal interpretations are just as sound

>>509109390
You do not control whether you want one or the other.

>>509109694
>That is why I included omnipotence along with omniscience
Omnipotence is actually a rather simple concept since it reduces every potential action to one of two outcomes: God either chooses to act or to refrain. Take, for example, the rhetorical question of whether God could create a rock that He can not lift. The simple answer is that God can create a rock that He never chooses to lift. What is the functional difference between being unable or unwilling to do something? Ability.
>By the way, if you're willing to accept a God that's free from causality than why not a whole universe?
Ever heard of Eternalism?

>>509109556
The Bible says "it wasn't its time to fruit" when it should have been, it doesn't say it's not fig season.

>>509109377

Aryan woman: "Jesus, please help!! My daughter has a demon!! Please cast it out of her!!"

*The woman proceeds to worship Jesus.*

Jesus: "Oy vey, another goyim shiksa. Ok disciples, let me handle this."

*Jesus clears his throat*

Jesus: "Ok so my blessings are like bread, right?"

Aryan woman: "Yes Lord, that's right!"

Jesus: "Ok yeah, and you wouldn't give your kid's bread to a dog, right?"

Aryan woman: "Uhh, L-Lord, what are you trying to say?"

Jesus: "Hold on lemme finish! So basically you wouldn't give bread to a dog right?"

Aryan woman: "I...no Lord. I wouldn't."

Jesus: "Ok so there you go."

Aryan woman: "B-but....But Jesus....Even dogs...*sniff* Even dogs eat the children's crumbs from under the table when they lick the floor like dumb animals."

Jesus: "Woah...wtf...lol."

*Disciples start snickering and laughing.*

Jesus: "Ok ok because you said this, I'll heal your daughter. But first you gotta bark like a dog!!"

Aryan woman: *sob* "b-bark bark..."

Jesus: "lol fucking goyim. Ok now go away, your daughter is all better lol."

Mark 7:24-29

>>509109899
lol well thanks mr. expert
but wow, what's this, the guy who doesn't believe the Bible doesn't know the Bible very well.
imagine my shock lol
if no man is good and to break one law is to break them all, how many laws did you break just now by thinking a foolish thought and was that God's will or not?
Well, nothing can happen if God doesn't want it to....so.....DUH

>>509109875

You are a FOOL!

>>509109756
>not fig season
>has to carry figs still
you are acctually mental. Let me repharse this for you.

A = leafs
B = has figs
C = fig season
If A is true then B must be true (that is context and not explicitly stated)
If C then (ans only then) B (logically true)
A is true (explicitly stated)
B is false (Explicitly stated)
C is false (explicitly stated)

That is basic logic, and if you are not capable of that I am sorry, you are mentally chalanged.

>>509109768
Nice reddit linebreak. Furnish a real argument before I grow bored.

>>509106715 (OP)
I'd vote for this

>>509109822
See:
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>>509110003
>he's so close to getting it

I applaud your effort golem

>>509110004
Oh no, a guy namefagging as Jesus thinks I'm a fool.
Oh wait, that means I must not be a fool since a guy namefagging as Jesus isn't walking in truth now is he?

>>509107218
Are you saying Jesus is as real as the picrel? Clever even though incorrect

>>509109614
Hardly. I don't walk around telling people that my arguments will only make sense if they already agree with me. That would be insane.

>>509110008
>reddit invented pressing enter twice

oh you're an r/donald tourist refugee

go back. 4chan is an anti semetic website

>>509109875
Ok so meaning does not equal interpretation? How so?
And all meanings are correct?
I am fine with this one, but how come you christniggers have killed eachother over the course of 1400 year in mass! because you dont agree on these interpretations?

>>509110088
Boredom achieved, but thanks for the (You)s, Moishe.

>>509109979
Why doesnt he heal his followers today?

>>509106715 (OP)
kek this is one of my favorite bits in the gospel stories because it's so fucking random and out of nowhere
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>>509108783
this is such cope lmao
did you know that originally, before the church arbitrarily decided on what the canon was, there were also stories about when Jesus was a kid and hadn't mastered his abilities yet where he was more arrogant and capricious and does like cursing random people just because they annoy him
there isn't any deeper meaning in some of these parts of the story, it's quite literally just exactly what it seems like with Jesus being some magic rabbi with superpowers. The idea that all of it is some le deep and meaningful shit with moral life lessons is just something church leaders and bible scribes/translators post-hoc came up with after the fact

>>509110006
You were literally told how fig trees work, way to double down on your retardation.

>>509110064

Your pride and vanity blinds you to the truth!

>>509109978
Quote:
12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.

In case you want to argue the translation is bad refer to this post: >>509110113

>>509110113
Broad path to destruction.
Majority of CHRISTIANS will do it wrong, let alone humans.
What I meant before is Jesus spoke in parables so he could have double and triple meanings and make references to future events and secret things while also saying something folksy and wise sounding about farming that's related to something else people not on his level could understand and relate to.

>>509110127
>you're a jew if you don't worship jews

christkikes are hopeless. also the jews favorite retard

>>509110186
So jesus is retarded?

>>509110155
Not an argument Jesus.
You'd think the King of the Jews would have scripture and verse or at at least an argument.
All I see is appeal to authority by namefagging and ad hominem, so your posts might as well be blank.

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>>509110232
Man, they're really trying tonight.

>>509110149
You niggers make you want to burn my local church in minecraft. How the fuck do you manage to be so dense?
I explained in detail and as easy as possible. You can point out my logical mistakes if you want.

>>509109959
Yes, it essentially just treats time as another dimension for which all points are equally real, like space. You still need to deal with causality, which is the main argument for a starting point. But if, somehow, the time dimension looped around in a circle, you would get a situation in which a first cause/prime mover is not necessary. There is no evidence for this as far as I'm aware but it's at least conceptually possible

>>509106780
Figs are literally melted wasps. I don't want to hear shit about worms.

>>509110285

I am not a Jew. Furthermore, you should burn your new testament and listen only to me!

Why didnt jesus just make a fig appear? I thought he was god?

>>509110385

You are dead in flesh and cannot see!

>>509109940
As best as possible, with the understanding that man can never be perfect, only Jesus is perfect. The Apostles and even people chosen by God weren’t perfect people, some of them were murders before they turned to God. Everyone has a cross to bear, it can be hard to pick it up at first, but a good place to start is with the 2 most important commandments:
Loving God with all your heart, soul, and mind.
Loving your neighbor as yourself.

>>509110265
Yes.

>>509110382
Counterpoint: You are the 10th or so Jesus impersonator I've seen during my internet career.
I'll stick to my King James Bible unless you want to do a big Jesus proof, I don't think that's much to ask considering you're telling me to burn God's word.

I am but a teacher and a guide born of the flesh as you are.

>>509110339
>You still need to deal with causality, which is the main argument for a starting point.
I sometimes wonder if causality itself is a byproduct of our limited perspective. Perhaps we construct it around ourselves and assume it is empirically evident.

>>509110463
>with the understanding that man can never be perfect
Lazy.
Jesus said to be perfect and to keep his commandments if you love him.
I know it sounds crazy, but it IS doable.
Do exactly as he taught and you will learn.

>>509110265
No, he is a blatant liar.

>>509110214
You mean that all issues of the world are basically the same and general ideas transfer well throughout all fields of being?
I absolutly agree.
However Jebus teachings are absolute and we live in a relative world as shown by quantum mechanics (observation principle) among other hints of that fact.
That being said, his teachings also suck more often then not. I still havent seen anything ov value. Some parts I have red myself and some parts shown to me by christians. I am (or rather was) open minded about the topic.

>>509110463
>only Jesus is perfect.

One of the biggest falsehoods ever told!

>>509110573
>I still havent seen anything ov value
Gee, I wonder why you homo.

>>509110522
I'm reborn of spirit, a son of God, and a literal god bro. I'm perfect.
How you gonna be Jesus and be less spiritually developed than me?

>>509109723
>If god exist why bad thing happen

>supposed to be god
>cant make a tree give him fruit
Kwab
Did he forget how to make one fish into a million fish?

>>509110624
Why does jesus give children cancer?

>>509110573
Skill issue honestly.
Jesus can teach you to become a god and it's not a larp or anything like that.
But yeah, most people will never fully utilize what he taught, just fringe cases.

>>509110622
quote me something of value, I promise I will read and try to understand it.
You can leave out the parts where "THE LORD" admits to not keeping his word or help Salomon with his adultry case.

>>509110487
>Counterpoint: You are the 10th or so Jesus impersonator I've seen during my internet career.

My teachings speak for my authenticity. We may have spoken before.

>>509110694
Ok, so apparantly I lack the skill to read a death cult manua.... I mean the bible but can comunicate with spirits who dont even speak.

Honestly, if you cant explain something to someone else. Its usually a skill issue on your end (not allways).

>>509106715 (OP)
TREE BTFO

BITCHASS TREE

>>509110711
Here, I'll give you the instructions to become a perfect god.
It won't make any difference because you need the basics first.
But here, here's how you achieve perfection on the same level as God and become a god in your own right.

"43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

46For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

47And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

48Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."

>>509110573
>No, he is a blatant liar.

You fail to know me and my teachings.

>>509110549
It's entirely possible. If a lower dimensional being were forced to only travel along a curved line, he might interpret the change in direction as "caused" by the parts of the line he'd already traveled

>>509110711
>or help Salomon with his adultry case.
Oh no he went against God and bad things happened to him according to the bible how could that beeeee?

>>509110862
Jesus wouldn't Redditspace nor not use a trip. Fuck off attention whore.

>>509110623

No one is perfect as long as they dwell in the flesh!

>>509109370
it was destroyed by the European Native Beliefs Romans though, 0 to do with cucktianity

>>509110454
Jesus what did you mean by this

>>509110935
Not what the Bible teaches both Old and New Testament.
Guess you're not Jesus.

>>509109723
>>509110678
Omnibenevolence is a fallacy, but man's judgment of God is only as valid as God allows it to be. God relents to the judgment of a man over His own a handful of times in scripture, specifically the intercessions of Moses, and it tends to result in disaster in the long term. God's perception is greater than a man's and a man can not possibly comprehend the nature of God's perception, though we can loosely grasp at its nature.

>>509110905

Get behind me Satan!

>>509110186
The interpretation is bad because it's ignoring the other bit of the story, it says it's not a time for figs while explicitly stating that the leaves where fully grown, why would it provide the state of the leaves if the expectation was a different one?
It was an unnatural situation to be in which Jesus used to compare with the state of Israel.

>>509111010
This is getting cringe Jesus.
Have some dignity, Jesus when disclosing he was I AM was subtle and gentle about it.
You're waving around a sign quoting Jesus's best quotes like you're going to start selling t-shirts.

You are all wicked and corrupt! Yahweh has turned his face against you as must I.

>>509110959
>it was destroyed by the European Native Beliefs Romans though
Yes, though it can also be said that it was destroyed by its own vanity. Zion, in its infinite arrogance and self-importance, bit off far more than it could chew multiple times resulting in its destruction. The Pharisees expected their Messiah to be a conqueror that subjugates foreign empires and brings the gentiles to heel. Instead they killed their Messiah for accommodating gentiles and went on to effectively commit suicide by cop.

>>509111123
Non-larp Jesus likes me a lot.
Like a whole lot.
Like I'm not even going to say how much because I'll look like a larper a lot.

>>509110997
So why does he give kids cancer? Are they supposed to free will it away?

>>509106715 (OP)
Jews do be like that. Histrionic faggots.
>>509106780
Yo momma is full of worms nigguh
>>509107924
So the entire jesus saga is myth, metaphor, midrash and allegory? Just as I suspected.

>>509111232
Who can say? I could construct for you a dozen hypotheticals but none of them would truly mean anything. The only honest answer to your question is "I don't know."

>>509110143
> curses random people for being annoying
Link to these sories?

>>509107924
Mental gymnastics. Why can't we have a religion that isn't based on interpretations and metaphors and mysteries aka trying to make sense of gibberish? Why not just speak plain truth?

>>509108731
>the understanding or knowing of things of the Spirit of God
Get a load of this hubristic transjew
Believing transparently asinine jewish nonsense does not make you retards special

>>509108783
>The message is clear only to those ready and able to receive.
The message is clear only to those with subsaharan IQ

>>509110997
Genuine question to you and any other religious person which I've never ever gotten a good answer to even when LARPing from the POV of a religious person to see if I can steelman their arguments and get another athiest to make me realize the answer inadvertently: why do you want to live in a universe in which you are a servant of a higher being, are at its mercy and not in control? I'm not asking about the factuality of the belief, I'm asking why you want to believe it

I've never encountered a religious person that ever answered this question or the following question: why do you think it would be good if such a scenario was true, where you were not in control and at the whim of a higher being? Don't waste my time moralfagging or anything, I want to know wtf your motivation for wanting such a thing to be true even is.

One of the Lord’s miracles, having a mystical meaning, was not accompanied by a visible benefit for any particular person, but signified a benefit to be poured out on all mankind. The miracle was the withering of the barren fig tree, rich only in leaves (Mark 11:13,14,20). This tree is mentioned in the Scriptures (Gen. 3:7), in the narrative of the fall of our forefathers, as one of the trees of Paradise. It served to cover their nakedness with its leaves, which the forefathers did not notice before falling into sin, a nakedness which sin revealed to them. It may be that the fruit of the fig tree in Paradise was the forbidden fruit. The Lord did not find any fruit on the fig tree. He sought the fruit before its time, letting His flesh seek an untimely desire for food, which mirrors the wrongfulness of the desire of the forefathers; which, as with all the weaknesses of man, the Lord carried upon Himself and destroyed by Himself. Not finding fruit, the Lord rejected the leaves, destroyed the very existence of the tree, at the same time that another tree, the tree of the Cross, was already being prepared as the instrument for the salvation of mankind. The tree, an instrument for the destruction of man, is slain by the command of the Saviour of men. The mystical miracle is accomplished in the presence of only the holy Apostles, the disciples of the mystical teaching. It is accomplished before the very entry of the God man upon the struggle of His atoning suffering for mankind, before being lifting up on the Cross.

>>509108868
>You do not have the capacity to know or understand them.
You do not have the capacity for rational thought you smooth-brained golem

I'm bothered by the fact that I can defend this story cause I'm kind of misotheistic.
It's meta. It's supposed to be a parable with you being the fig tree. But are you a fig with no mind? You have responsibilities which goes against your fallen nature. You will rot likewise if you say that's how the world is (fallen) and that I'm going with the rhythm.
Pick the clay potter parable if you want to do better.

>>509108979
I believe in God via reason
I don't believe in your jewish demongod of foreskins for the same reason

>>509111820
Then you're a natural man and you're filtered by the Holy cipher.
It's funny.

>>509110324
I accept your concession.

>>509111648
Not religious but I want to be controlled by an omnibenevolent and omniscient and omnipotent being. It must have those three qualities.

>>509111880
I don't see any christfags doing the work of the apostles anymore aka producing psychic phenomena. Dead religion full of hypocrites.

>>509107924
fact. youd expect /pol/ to understand that this is where the jews are cursed forever. but that would take reading

>>509111648
>why do you want to live in a universe in which you are a servant of a higher being, are at its mercy and not in control? I'm not asking about the factuality of the belief, I'm asking why you want to believe it
I believe my answer may disappoint you for several reasons, but let's begin with that first bit: I often do not want to live. I find it tiresome, and yet I continue. I am at the mercy, and under the control of, many things other than God. The state and its law, my biology and its requirements, as well as my mind with what flaws it has. Those few things I do have control of must be directed with care, and one would hope that the direction of those things toward an ontological good is best. If nothing else God is an expression of that ontological good. If not that then what? Self-interest? Pleasure? Hard pass.
>why do you think it would be good if such a scenario was true, where you were not in control and at the whim of a higher being?
We are all at the whim of higher beings, most if not all of which are artifice created by men. If God is on that list then what difference does it make?

>>509110846
So that Father in heaven does all these things?
How come he kill all those that dont follow him with the flood and later (in another 2 milenia) at the final day of wrath?
Or does he kill them despite loving them? Wow so deep and not retarded at all.

>>509110874
I am sorry if I am mistaking the names. I refer to the story where the king kills the husband of a woman he slept with and God gives him a slap on the wrist and then everything is fine.

>>509111648
>wtf your motivation for wanting such a thing to be true
Infantilism

>>509112122
Told you it wouldn't matter.

>>509111648
Because God is my Father and I love him and trust him.
We're a team.

>>509111880
>you're filtered by the Holy cipher.
>the Holy cipher.
Is that an accessory of the Holy hand grenade of Antioch?

>>509111076
I see:
So Niggeru and Niggero went on a walk, fentanyl was cheap yet Niggeru couldnt afford it, Niggero wouldnt borrow money to Niggeru even though he had enough.
Niggeru killed and robbed Niggero to by fentanyl.
But the dealer would sell the fentanyl because he hath seen what had just happend.

Deep isnt it?

>>509112294
It's a metaphysical concept.
One of my favorite things God did that makes the world extra silly.

“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.”

>>509112117
>We are all at the whim of higher beings, most if not all of which are artifice created by men.
false, but life is hard if you choose to not be at the whim of bigger things (I wouldnt say "higher")

>>509111522
Checked and this. So much this.
Making sense of nonsense and pretending it has some sort of deep meaning is the gayest and most annoying Hollywood trope. Is this where it came from?

>>509112365
>“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.”
>You have to be extra special and elect to accept this asinine semite rubbish
Ah yes. Spiritual pride.

>>509112437
>life is hard if you choose to not be at the whim of bigger things
Also generally quite unpleasant and short.

>>509112455
Smugness actually.
It's funny because God made it the most obvious way to prove he exists but only as a joke because it manifests as a non-believer or even a faithlet just not getting it supernaturally.
God is actually the funniest dude ever.

>>509108009
>leaving future messages
right, its for us, not our pharisees. our pharisees arent allowed to understand they just have to repeat the Word, not understand it, and go to hell
> And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. 12For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. 13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

16But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. 17For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

>>509112442
I like William Walker Atkinson for just stating everything in precisely the most plain way possible, speaking the most profound truths without any mystery, in such a way in fact that one can gloss over the significance of what he says often.

>>509106715 (OP)
Where does it say what season it was?

>>509112579
You don't understand how many people God made wrong on purpose as a joke.

>>509112548
>It's funny because God made it the most obvious way to prove he exists
I believe in God. Yhwh is not God and asserting otherwise is the supreme blasphemy of the yahwehist demon worshipers like yourself.

>>509112648
I don't care what you believe, if you can't handle God at his OT worst you don't deserve him at his NT best.
Papa God is best and only God.

>>509112203
Answer the question christtard. Your beloved book tells you too.

Honestly, all the nonsense in this death cult makes sense if you adapt nice sounding but unprovable premises that dont have any foundation in reality. Namely
Absolutes and even more importantly
Good and Evil.
If we could lead this discussion well, we would finally end up on that point (which I have dont with a limp wristed christcuck)
However, you stick to your semi logical realm and would never accept the world as it is, because its uncertainty scares you.

There is no Good and Evil (which doesnt mean you must be a faggot or even tolerate other peoples opinions)

>>509112620
>God makes people wrong and then damns them for a joke
You worship a sadistic jewish demon.

>>509111355
Hes a jerk.

>>509112455
>Ah yes. Spiritual pride.
Not exactly. The Pharisees did not receive the things of the Spirit of God because of their pride, their insane fixation on the letter of the law rather than its spirit. A great number of the things that /pol/'s critics dislike about the Bible were written by Paul and that is because Paul's function in the scripture is to attempt to explain why the old covenant was destroyed and the new covenant exists directly to the Jews themselves. Imagine if you tried to explain to vikings why they shouldn't rape and kill at a whim, but you had to actually convince them with their own logic. Now imagine somebody read that some 1900~ years later.

>>509112700
>if you can't handle God at his OT worst
Yhwh isnt God retardo

>>509112729
I actually accept and love reality as it is because it's 1:1 God's will.
All of it, even the "bad" stuff.
Good and evil are human concepts.
In Christianity, God is the only good one.
We just do good acts, we never fully become good.
So yeah, good and evil don't exist, sure, whatever.

>>509112739
u mad bro?

>>509112788
I AM is God.

>>509112785
The accusation of spiritual pride was directed at the christkike ITT
All yahwehists in fact - who take pride in believing in transparent pigslop

>>509112777
Sometimes. God is angry and jealous. God is also kind and merciful. Imagine you had a front row seat to everything awful that has ever happened and will ever happen for eternity. Might make you a little irritable.

>>509112365
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
I see, I have to listen to the church for that? Or anyone else who looks objectivly better then the dirty me.
>>509112487
I wouldnt say so, it is very difficult to live "outside" the system. However it is possible and the system doesnt even care if you choose to leave. Because its close to impossible and if a couple people make it, it doesnt hurt the system.
Leaving the system doesnt mean dissent or protest or terrorism.
It means rewiring your thinking. Yes laws are broken in the process, but laws are not written for those outside the system.

>>509107218
Yeah people always allow themselves to be tortured and killed for lulz. One was even boiled in oil.

>>509112904
Ah, I misunderstood you then.

>>509112926
lol no the churches were made wrong on purpose as a joke too.
In the Book of Revelation ONE PERSON
ONE
Actually does what Jesus did and overcomes the world.
Everyone else is technically doing ok at best.

>>509112844
>u mad bro?
Technically you are mad ie insane
>I AM is God.
Thankfully not
Your kvetching histrionic kike storm demon isnt real

>>509111522
The truth isn’t hidden because it’s too weak to stand on its own. It’s hidden because people often only value what they’ve had to search for. If you think Jesus’ words are gibberish try living them, and you will see they were never gibberish at all.

>>509113027
Not even a little bit insane.
Stay butt flustered.
You are as the Lord made you.

>>509112923
>Sometimes. God is angry and jealous
Lol. Lmao, even.

>>509113073
You worship a midianite volcano god yahweh merged with the high god of the pagan canaanite pantheon - El - and his purported mashiach - a term/concept stolen by jews from the persian zoroastrians

>>509113098
Exodus 34:14, Psalm 7:11

>>509112818
I think you missed half of my point.
Good doesnt exist either. There is no absolute "good" in the world in the christian sense.
In reality the spirits one can comunicate with are simply entities you can cooperate with or fight against.
The two bigger fractions are "constructive" and "destructive".
Jaweh is part of the destructive fraction and he tries to fool people of the constructive fraction into following him by claiming he is the "good" and by claiming (a lie) that he (and the constructive fraction) is the ABSOLUTE good.

>>509113054
>If you think Jesus’ words are gibberish try living them
Sadomasochism is not a virtue
>>509113192
>my jew babble that jews invented says this
Fascinating

>>509111522
Plain truth:
>God.
You:
>AHHH I need proof! Fake and gay!! Fake and gay!!!

I hope this story elucidates why one needs an elaborate labyrinth of metaphors and techniques to get one to grasp simple truths. The purpose of religions isn’t to tell you the truth but to guide you to see it for yourself because what use is you believing some shit I told you?

>>509113167
Just wait until you find out that God is one of Odin's names.

>>509113012
So how can I understand the bible if I am to stuipid and the church is bad too?
Am I supposed to listen to you? Oh high priest of the one and only true GOD?

>>509113167
I worship my Father, who just so happened to create the world including all religions in it.
It's not really gotcha like you think it is that other religions may have existed.
I don't care.
I love pop pop.

>>509113271
Basically there's no good or evil except in reference to God.
Do what God wants, that's good.
Do anything else, that's evil.
Obviously God never acts contradictory to God, thus Jesus was a sinless man, because he was God.

>>509113290
Godan < Wotan < Odin
I know nigger
yhwh isn't God

Jesus damned Israel in that act, that's the point, he immediately went to the temple to smash their sacrifice dove system

>>509113321
Do what Jesus said to do and follow the 10 commandments, that's it.
It's super easy.
yet only one person other than Jesus will actually overcome the world and win the God lottery before the end of the world.
That's how bonkers God made humans.

>>509113365
>I worship my Father, who just so happened to create the world including all religions in it.
Incorrect
You are a monolatrous demon worshiper of the child sacrifice demanding, tribal demongod of the jews and his supposed mashiach - a circumcised, torah asserting, yahweh worshiping, unmarried NEET ethnic jew who referred to non jews as dogs.
You assert blood magick scapegoat rites of sin transference and treat jesus the way jews treat chickens - voodoo nigger nonsense
You are the ultimate cuck in mind, body and soul. A gelded eunuch and a traitor to your blood, race and ancestral spirit in favour of semitic demonic filth.

>>509113321
>So how can I understand the bible if I am to stuipid and the church is bad too?
NTA, but the answer to that question is careful study and patience. I've been to several churches in my time and more often than not they are packed with people using their faith as a social tool more than anything else. Giving clerics the power to dictate religion is what led the Pharisees to do what they did.

>>509108491
>who has divine authority?

God
>who created that fig tree and humanity?

God

>your jew book keeps failing its internal logic

How?
God hands you a car and says “here you go. This is yours on ONE condition. DO NOT put diesel in here. Only use unleaded gasoline. You don’t even have to put premium in it. Just DO NOT put diesel in here. If you do the motor is going to DIE.”.
Satan comes along because you’re not watching what your wife is doing and says “Did God REALLY tell you , you can’t fill the tank?”.
Your wife says “No God says we can do whatever we want as long as we don’t use diesel.”.
Satan says “oh that’s because he doesn’t want you driving as fast as he does”.
Your wife says “oh yeah!?!”.
Starts pumping the car with diesel.
You finally come along and you let your wife convince you filling the car with diesel is a good idea so you grab the pump and finish filling it up.
Jump in.
Turn key.
Car runs like garbage.
Who made the car?
Who messed it up?
Whose fault is it?
The car is an analogy for the world. The world depended on man’s obedience to God. When man took Gods perfect creation and sinned, he ruined it.

>>509113423
>yet only one person other than Jesus will actually overcome the world and win the God lottery before the end of the world.
What new doctrine is this? Lmao.

>>509113439
i don't really care what you think as the KJV was all I needed to achieve enlightenment and Nirvana.
You are telling someone who has won the game you are doing better.

>>509113498
Don't worry about it it's Book of Revelation weirdness, I didn't even know it was a thing until like 2 months ago.
Secret unlockable character basically who gets to be God's grandson but not by birth.

>>509107924

The only argument you need to have with a jew is with the tip of your sword, my G.

>>509109723
If you warn your child not to touch the stove and you let him do it, are you malevolent? Man made his bed. We now have to live with it and learn our lesson.
The lesson being WE are not the supreme beings in the universe. God is. If you choose a life without God you have made your choice so don’t be surprised with the consequences.

>>509113458
>they are packed with people using their faith as a social tool
You don't say.
>>509113559
>i don't really care what you think as the KJV was all I needed to achieve enlightenment and Nirvana.
What a retard
>Secret unlockable character basically who gets to be God's grandson but not by birth.
Yet more semite marvel slop for NPC golems
Sad

>20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!”

>22 “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered. 23 “Truly[a] I tell you, if anyone says to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and does not doubt in their heart but believes that what they say will happen, it will be done for them. 24 Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.

Whats this Law of Attraction manifestation techniques? Jesus was ahead of the curve.

>>509113660
Yeah I mean if you don't even believe the basic shit you shouldn't even begin to think about the Book of Revelation, it's an acid trip.
Basically, we're waiting on one man to do exactly what Jesus wanted everyone to do.
That's what triggers end times prophecy.

>>509113583
What a load of old horseshit

>>509109778
The fig tree is Israel.
Israel’s problem was outward religion and no spirituality. They had the outward appearance (having leaves) of loving God (having fruit) but they were far from him in their hearts, (had no fruit).
As a result they rejected Christ and were cursed (Roman invasion of 70AD).

Simple as.

>>509113365
>Basically there's no good or evil except in reference to God.
Do what God wants, that's good.
Do anything else, that's evil.
Obviously God never acts contradictory to God, thus Jesus was a sinless man, because he was God.

Now that does make perfect sense in itself. However as can be observed, there is nothing objective, thus this God can not exist.

>>509113458
and now comes you, who tells me its a good idea to dedicate a lot of time to a specific world view and study it untill I agree with it.

Do you even understand how deranged this sounds to a person who is not brainwashed into christianity?
I mean, free energy believers or flat earthers have the same idea of "understanding" as you guys.

>>509113423
>Do what some random kikes said, its super easy.
I know its easy, but I would rather choose the narrow path (one of the view things the bible gets right).
I honestly dont understand the seccond part.

>>509113278
If you want virtue without cost you don’t seek virtue at all, you seek comfort. True goodness always costs something.

>>509113788
Ok I can understand this and this makes sense.
But its not fig season. (not the time for Israel to love God, which makes sense aswell) yet he punishes them either way.
Kinda silly if you ask me

>>509109979
Amusing but do you know WHY Jesus made her jump through hoops?

>>509113788
>15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
Matthew 7:15-20

>>509113670
Go, throw yourself into the sea then retardo. Good luck.
>>509113729
>it's an acid trip.
Literally. Patmos is covered in magic mushrooms.
>Basically, we're waiting on one man to do exactly what Jesus wanted everyone to do.
You are maybe
>That's what triggers end times prophecy.
Jew prophecy isnt real retard
>>509113808
>If you want virtue without cost
Nice strawman Patrick
>True goodness always costs something.
Sometimes it does. Sometimes not.

>>509113807
The strait and narrow thing is easy.
tl;dr is avoid false prophets, not everyone who says Lord Lord is getting in, actually do what I say nigga
basically.

>>509113903
>Kinda silly if you ask me
The entire jewish mythos is silly. Comically silly.

>>509113943
Yeah well, we'll see how you feel about that come September 7th *spooky music*

>>509110129
It’s possible he does but not through “apostles”. Stage 4 cancer patient not expected to live but prays and puts his life in Gods hands all of a sudden starts responding to treatment and goes on to be cancer free.
There’s your healing miracle.

>>509113929
ok, I honestly dont like the fruits of Jesus. So ye...
I rather keep that sunwheel rolling :)

>>509113996
>come September 7th
2 more months eh
Or 2 more millennia

>>509114042
You'll see, or I'm wrong, but the spookier I make it the more effective it is *wiggles fingers spookily*

>>509113966
>avoid false prophets
>do what I say nigga
basically.
lol, lmao even

>>509113978
but people want to believe into some all powerfull being who gets rid of their problems either way... Compareable to Trump voters and people who lose their life savings on bitcoin. That is the Jesus of today.

>>509113966
>avoid false prophets
All jew prophets are false prophets nigger
The bible is a compendium of jewish false prophets

>>509113929
Ok? Did I interpret the fig tree story incorrectly? Are you saying I’m a false prophet?

>>509106715 (OP)
The cursed fig tree refers to the proto-Jews of Jesus' time. They were not ready for him and gave no figs so they are cursed. It is very simimilar to the parable of the Vinyard that comes right after.

The fig tree can be seen as the glowing tree filiments of electrical discharge over thr North Pole that also gives us the Tree of Knowledge and lighted Christmas trees.

Note the similarity to the American legend of their founding king George Washington chopping down his "father's" fig tree. That is, God's. So severing monarchy and Man's link to the divine.

>>509113996
HOLY SHIT I MUST GET BAPTIZED UNTIL SEPTEMBER THE 7TH!!!!!
OH NO!!!!! I WILL BURN IN HELL FOREVER!!!! BUT NOW ITS TO LATE FOR ME!!!! OH NO, IF ONLY I WOULD HAVE LISTEND TO THIS RANDOM SCHIZO!!!!

>>509113943
wtf are you talking about you pointlessly angry heathen? People that issued death threats to me irl ended up dead soon after Ill have you know. Good luck.

>>509114110
September 7th or thereabouts something big and spooky will happen.
When it does, remember it was a Christian who called it and act appropriately.
Or I'm wrong in which case, who cares, I'll be long gone lol

>>509111458
He's talking about gnostic texts found at the Nag Hammadi.
One, anyway. I think it was written later, like most of them.

>>509106715 (OP)
I think something was lost in the translation. He said, "I'm tired of all these figgers not doing their job...what good is a figger if it picks no fruit?".

>>509113903
Hope this helps

Fig trees produce two primary crops in that region. The first is an early crop of small, edible buds sometimes appearing with or just after the leaves in spring (Micah 7:1 describes the precious nature of such first-ripe figs). By the time leaves appear, these early figs might be present even if it is not the main season, allowing a hungry traveler to find a small bite to eat. The second, larger crop grows in late summer or early fall when figs are fully in season. Given that Jesus saw leaves from a distance, He approached the tree (even though it was not the main fig season) expecting at least some of these early buds. The complete lack of any fruit revealed something amiss.

>>509106715 (OP)
Wait, why the gap in the story?

What happens in verse 15, anon? Why did you leave that part out?

>>509114103
>but people want to believe into some all powerfull being who gets rid of their problems either way
The plebs are retards yes
>>509114140
>proto-Jews
Aka jews. Lmfao.
>>509114214
>People that issued death threats to me irl ended up dead soon after
The kike demon yhwh is your personal assassin now eh? Holy kek.
Go, throw yourself off a cliff nigger. You'll be fine if your faith is strong. Good luck.

>>509114216
>something big and spooky will happen.
Something big and spooky happens daily
>>509114260
Figger please.

>>509114446
something will happen that will look like stars falling to earth and the sky rolling up like a scroll.
The elite will shelter underground.
mark your calendar, should be good for a giggle.

>>509106715 (OP)
Damn Jesus was kind of an asshole. Wtf I'm reverting to Islam now

>>509108491
Remember that the people, animals and plants in God's world all have free will. God may command where needed but mostly making something of his Gift of Life is down to you. Whether a barren fig tree or an autistic shut in.

Barren fig tree refers to autists even if in the context of the time the shut ins were called Pharases. It is the same.

>>509113807
>and now comes you, who tells me its a good idea to dedicate a lot of time to a specific world view and study it untill I agree with it.
Or you could just read it and come to your own conclusion, God forbid. I've literally got a copy of the Tibetan Book of the Dead 10 feet away from me. You think I take everything I read as truth?
>Do you even understand how deranged this sounds to a person who is not brainwashed into christianity?
Do you even understand how aggressively hostile you are to someone answering your question earnestly?

>>509114505
Lay off the shrooms brah
>>509114585
My lettuce has free will? Who knew?!

>>509114260
He had a figger fatigue?

>>509114508
>Wtf I'm reverting to Islam now
Muhammad was even worse - a real jerk.

>>509107924

You are retarded.

This is not about it being a bad metaphor.

It's not a metaphor period.
Has no logical causation.
The tree CAN'T bear fruit not WON'T. Literally that idiot cursing a tree for something out of its hands. By that respect, it could have been ANY tree, in essence he CURSED ALL TREES. Not just one type.
It's not just cope, you're mentally retarded. Like literally. You're retarded. Like all Christians and religious freaks in general.
All books are a tax on something real, an interpretation that tries to capture something real.

From where I am from, there was an old movie which pictured a guy trying to capture the sun with a wooden...large vessel by keeping it pointed at the sun, and bringing it into his house to make light. THAT's religion.
And THAT's a metaphor, for how stupid religion is. Irattional apes.

>>509114640
>Or you could just read it and come to your own conclusion
I did. It's incoherent rubbish.

>>509114967
Well Nigel, maybe you should blame your monarchy for that since they published it.

>>509115025
Indeed.
The best cure for yahwehism is actually reading the bible

>>509109692
>we can fly planes up there now. there's no jewsus palace bro.
Not at the moment. Why do you think Jesus is flying? Note how the ressurection is depicted in Renaissance art.

You might consider that they were not making things up but it is hard for us to understand today having had no similar experiences.

>>509109695
>today i'm not just a Christian, I don't even consider myself human.
Lol. Explain plz.

>>509115283
Anon has ascended to a higher plane of fart huffing

>>509109826
>>"You mess with me, you get cursed. Remember that."
>This.
And the Jews did mess with Him and did get cursed.

>>509114896
> in essence he CURSED ALL TREES
Why are kikes such hysterical faggots?

>>509114311
Now this at least makes sense. Thanks anon.
The whole story then makes sense too.

>"what are ya gonna do, curse us?"
>-cursed race of chosenites

What sort of man gets pleasure in trying to knock down something that others use to find peace and live better lives?

>>509115620
>The whole story then makes sense
Lol. Lmao.

>>509115716
cope

>>509106715 (OP)
Jesus was a mushroom. this is another clue because some mushrooms are parasitic and will kill a tree.
Virgin birth, and reborn - like a mushroom
Born in a manger = pine needles
Eat his flesh = mushroom

picrel baby jesus in the manger

>>509115283
“I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.”

>>509114640
How am I not supposed to be hostile? According to my observation Christianity is poison that kills people internally. Only hauls of flesh wander around. Similar to other jewish propaganda most prominantly the vax propaganda a couple years ago.

Also I am not aware of a "Tibetian book of the Dead 10" is this some Grimore?

Further I do not take everything I read as truth either, however I dont want to waste time "digging into something" if the whole premise of the work does not agree with my observation of the world.

>>509115710
A man who values TRUTH above all.
>What sort of man gets pleasure in trying to knock down someone's gender identity that gives them heckin valid lives?
That's you that is
>>509115764
No you

>>509115507

How tf am I a kike?
You mfers need your shit shoved in fast, you're too comfy in your religious seat, SAME as kikes.
Fuking religious-loon.

Imagine hanging onto an UNDERLINE to call me a jew. Literal fucking brainlet. And you just proved my point faggot.

You're retarded.

>>509115877
>Tibetian book of the Dead
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bardo_Thodol

>>509106715 (OP)
It was a warning shot
https://biblehub.com/matthew/7-16.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ukrb1iFyNs

>>509115716
we have to be fair here. In itself it makes sense.
The bible is not logically false from beginning to end. Its premises are false and so is the resulting world view. However its designed by a sound mind to fool people, thus passages that make sense are included.

>>509115710
I can only wonder
pic related

>>509115710

As >>509115881 said, people who value Truth.
And live better lives is subjective, all christians need to hang onto others to tell all how much of a better life they live because of Christ.
JUST like niggers, bragging about their muh-better life in jeeps and bling.

Something tells me that if you have to tell everyone how much of a good life you're leading- you're not leading a good life, and you parasite your goodness on the fall-off of people naivity, a constant need to replenish that, with more naive people that believe you, cuz they need to validate your state of good.

Faggot.

At peace means, balance. And constantly running for validation is NOT balance.

>>509109979
A Canaanite woman would be a jew. Typical jewish inversion.

>>509115810
This means they were children of a libertarian?

>>509116320
israelkikes were ALL canaanites

>>509106715 (OP)
A white man walks into brown lands. He’s angry because these brown people don’t speak his language, act different, have different culture. He gets angry and says kwor crikey mate widdin ya guhguhmaguh!! The brown people look at each other confused. The brown people say This is brown land. We live here for thousands of years. Hell is over there. The white man sees the beautiful submissive brown women that have been exquisitely raised with tender care and discipline by strong brown men. The white man reaches out and rapes them while yelling guhguaguhmagguh!!!! Then he breaks the women in half and drinks their blood and starts killing everyone. The white man then walks further on covered in blood and shit and piss.

>>509114640
>>509115998
Sounds fun an argueably less questionable then the bible.
Why dont you like it anon?

>>509115620

That makes more sense, but.. who's to say some other hungry traveler didn't pass by before?
It would make more sense than assume that is the only tree that didn't bear fruit, or that it was somehow an evil tree.
I mean the metaphor is still retarded. I don't know any trees that act out of their cycle, the metaphor is not grounded in a reality instead on a WHAT IF - which IS the typical jew behavior.

Reality is how it is, yeah but WHAT IF, nigga but it ain't?! You just moved goal posts to make your world view fit.

Mentally retarded.

>>509116685
Shit, meant you.
>>509114311

Did the miracles actually happen or are they metaphors too? Like when moses talked with some bush, was it a just a metaphor to say he was stoned?

>>509107924
how would i know it's about israel?
why would i care about israel?
will christians ever stop obsessing over israel?

>>509116685
Well I like plants and I collected Johanniskraut (pic related) that is supposed color oil red if you put it into oil for ~4 weeks. (I have done this procedure succesfully once).
However it didnt work and the Johanniskraut in my area indeed lacks this red color.
So it is fair to assume, something is wrong with the plant. However I wouldnt curse it, ususally there is a reason for such issues.
But hey THE LORD IS ALLMIGHTY AND ALL KNOWING and shieet.

>>509117836
pic related

>>509107924
G-D... I love jews... truly the chosen people... Hail the jews...

>>509110624
easy. next question.

>>509113788
If I where to interpret a passage in the Bible the way I want to understand it, it becomes true.

>>509115877
>however I dont want to waste time "digging into something" if the whole premise of the work does not agree with my observation of the world
I guess you're not a big fan of philosophy then.
>>509116490
>Why dont you like it anon?
The end goal of Tibetan Buddhism is literally cosmic suicide.

>>509118216
>I guess you're not a big fan of philosophy then.
how come you think that? I am most certainly. Making assumptions based on nothing isnt philosophy.

>cosmic suicide
isnt the end goal of christianity cosmic murder or did I missunderstand that last part about Jaweh destroying the world?
As far as I understand it, there is no physical world after the 2nd comming.

>>509118452
>how come you think that?
Most of philosophy is guaranteed to not agree with your observation of the world.
>isnt the end goal of christianity cosmic murder or did I missunderstand that last part about Jaweh destroying the world?
>As far as I understand it, there is no physical world after the 2nd comming.
That depends on the particular denomination and interpretation of scripture in question. A "new heaven and a new earth." can mean...well just about anything depending on what level of schizo you want to reach for.

>>509117836

I mean...sure. Idk I can't see trees as evil or intentionally hurting someone, I do believe, and plants as well, that they are alive then it just matters how you define consciousness, so ultimately they could have agency outside of our worldframe but..yeah hating on trees feels wrong to me I guess.

Worst I've done was hate on a.. had too google it - dog rose, cuz it had thorns, but then again we all do. Idk, can't really hate on plants in general, or animals.
If it gets in the way I just remove it, no hate needed.
Maybe that's the lesson, always keep the head about how you can overcome.

>>509119265
dog rose is only one of many plants with thorns...
Especially in the rose family.
Dog rose is edible btw. I am talking about the fruit, not the flower. Idealy after frost. You also can make tee out of it.
>>509118773
>Most of philosophy is guaranteed to not agree with your observation of the world.
No?