Thread 509107902

Stefan has prayed his whole life.

Nothing happened.

Explain, christians.

>>509107902 (OP)
Children usually don't earn answered prayers. You have to work and suffer if you want God to listen.

>>509108256
Thats not in the bible. The bible says ask and you shall be given

>>509108256
You lack empathy
Sorry your parents were so evil.

>>509108256
that sounds demonic

>>509107902 (OP)
God is not a genie that has to grant wishes. Salvation from evil comes when you die, in the form of justice.

>>509108652
The Bible isn’t Santa clause you gay faggot

>>509107902 (OP)
Did this shabbos goyim ever think that maybe "he" was the evil, of course not, every virtue signaling faggot thinks they are correct and do no wrong

>>509108833
The bible is kikes recounting their warcrimes, and a jewish supremacist called yeshua aping Aryan morality.

>>509107902 (OP)
God didn't tell us that when we ask, it is given immediately - God commands His people to wait sometimes.

We should ask, and we should wait! Glory to God!

>>509107902 (OP)
>It never came
Whoa, a ghost tweeted this from hell???

>>509107902 (OP)
In my experience, attending church interferes with God's ability to answer prayers.

Growing up I saw how church kids were "cliquey" and obsessed over the "gay" issue (usually bullying kids who did not attend or never read the bible).

As a kid all you should know is this: Jesus preached "love thy neigbor & do good for others".

No child should have access to a bible until they leave their parent's house

>>509109393
>No child should have access to a bible until they leave their parent's house
You are a Kike

>>509107902 (OP)
You probably think "salvation from evil" is lack of suffering, mental relief, a woman that actually likes him, infinite supply of McDonald's, and not having to work a job for any of that.

God never promised any of those things. In fact warned against thinking that they're all there is to life. God offers something infinitely greater in heaven. If you want worldly pleasures, sure, stick to the world. It's just that they will die out, and you will die with them.

What will you have afterward?

>>509108833
>The Bible isn’t Santa clause you gay faggot
They're equally factual.

>>509107902 (OP)
>Brainlet Molyneux
Your supposed to ask good for strength to survive the trials and the evil not for him to wave his magic hand and save you from it. Evil exists in the world ask God for the strength to endure and overcome it.

>>509107902 (OP)
>It never came
Did time end?

>>509107902 (OP)
If God real why bad thing happen

He's another Peterstein or a Tate-Light.
Another pied-piper for the youth

>>509110082
You know it's not a bad question. But people who ask it refuse to accept the answer. You are evil.

If something good happens it's thanks to god, if something bad happens it's your fault. Religion is a very convenient way to earn money.

>>509107902 (OP)
Jesus spends a lot of time in the Bible teaching how not to pray. Why would he do that? Is it because he thought it was unimportant to do so? No, that's stupid.

Also he's just lying. The man is like 70. What the fuck does he remember from 62 years ago? His brain invents things so vastly different from the way they happened that it saps my energy to even finish this sentence.

The post is also worthlessly unspecific. It carries exactly as much weight as me saying, "Guys I prayed for a million dollars and it didn't happen. What gives?"

>>509107902 (OP)
if you had any expectations you were doing it wrong
Prayer is like anything else, there's a wrong way and a right way to do it
The difficulty lies in that it's internal, and that makes it hard to know when you're doing it wrong

>>509107902 (OP)
God is not your personal army

>>509110082
A question based on logic and reason. Since Stefan isn't a biased partisan and instead seem to look for what's true, he's asking it.

>>509107902 (OP)
is he suffering from evil now? or is he salvated?

What's with the one dollar meme anyway? Is the best criticism against him that he once asked for some money after making thousands of philosophy based episodes to wake people up and detect the evil that's right in front of them?

>>509112380
He's in a very good place.

>Do not pray for easier lives, pray to be stronger men.
JFK
> "Ah how shameless – the way these mortals blame the gods".
Zeus

>>509107902 (OP)
Listen up nigger.
Satan rules this world for now. He hates you with passion. More you stick out with your lalalala I want to do good as human who doesn't have a clue what he is doing more he will strike you, especially if you have that connection to God through Jesus.
He rebelled against God because he hates you, he doesn't care about anything except bringing you away from God through destruction of any type.

>Muh evil in material world that I've experienced
No, it is the reason why you are in material world with a SOVL in the first place, as he corrupted God's most beloved creation and my best guess all this is separation of good from bad that God is doing to root out corruption and save what can be saved after judgement. Your soul must be your fortress, and not material stuff, Satan wanted to give all material world to Jesus for his soul and you need to understand your soul is only thing worthy that can leave this crabucket bullshit.

Some gentle reminders:
>You have no real clue how it all came to be
>You have no real clue how you are, when you are, or whatever all this is
>You have no real clue what this place is, how it was created, why it was created.
Your only armor is your faith. And your faith can be that you believe this shit is billions of years old with no purpose or believe biblical narrative.

>>509107902 (OP)
That’s cuz he never really believed. Literally all my prayers get answered, I can literally order world events to happen by praying and wishing for it.

>>509108256
Why would u tell these people the truth? You know how dumb they are..

>>509108256
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>>509112136
why do you want to worship something that isn't beneficial to you, are you retarded?
>muh you have to love god and he has infinite rights over you and you have to obey him just because
yeah but why though? why the fuck would I want to do go along with that?
no religious person can ever answer this

>>509113141
Exactly. Your motivation is key. If you prayed and believed only to have good outcome yourself it doesn't really have to do anything with christianity. I acknowledge I don't know best why the things happen or how should they happen and generally pray because I hope my plans coincide with God's plans and they are not a burden to his plans. I also pray with pure heart of what I believe to be good loving things and my prayers are generally answered.

>>509108256
You need to do a triple backflip from tall building and then God will answer you before you hit asphalt. 100% of times it works.

>>509113141
Lmao you people are sick in the head.

>>509113694
>I will only humble myself before my creator if he becomes my obedient servant
Good luck with that.

>>509108256
>Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.
>Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him!

>>509113944
Give me an event you want to happen. Not something small, world changing

>>509108652
>ask and you shall be given
>give us this day our daily bread
you'll be given what you need, not what you think you want. ask for the gift of discernment and you'll understand what i'm talking about.

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>>509107902 (OP)
He prayed to the atheist God. And got the response he should have.

>>509113748
Not even motivation, just knowing the bible is redundantly and obviously True and that every single word in the King James Version is 100% correct and exact.

I hate to say it, but I can even pray for bad things to happen so I disagree. However, bad things against this satanic system.

>>509107902 (OP)
>if god real why bad thing happen
ah yes the fundamental argument

>>509108906
Only the beginning of the Old Testament. Why don't you try reading it before commenting on it?

>>509108652

Bible also says something about good works. But I can't recall the specific passages. Old Testament has something about working constantly like you are an ant. New Testament says pay the workers fair wages also says that you should invest or use resources wisely. Probably in medieval times, prayer for Christians was half of it, the other half was sweat and toil in fields while trying not to get captured and enslaved by Muslims or worked to death by the European "nobles" who could kill you just for the fun of it.

>>509108256
it's objectively true that the people most often get God's attention in the Bible are the ones who directly challenge or defy him
they're often rewarded for it if their cause is righteous

>>509107902 (OP)
>"salvation from evil" is a very vague and convoluted request

Do you mean, liberating only You and/or everybody from free will?
>free will to me, but not for thee?

Be specific, or request denied.
On the other hand:
>"the person has been found wanting"
is another aspect to be considered, if someone asks Heavens to hand out toiletpaper from the other room, while one is sitting on the throne.

Wantings, in general, are also tools to exploit and manipulate you.

>>509107902 (OP)
I've only pray'd once like I meant it. And it worked. Now, we can say my mother would have gotten better anyways..but from one night of not recognizing her(physically) . To next day. Her health was radically changed to the better.
I truly feel heard. Haven't read the bible, yet. Only parts of it.

>>509107902 (OP)
all religion is low iq cope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxxO07m4dMU

>>509108833
yeah, it's worse than santa, jesus gives you jackshit and false hope lmao

>>509114308
it's wether you believe faith alone is enough, or if faith without works (aka deeds, actually practicing what you preach) is dead

>>509112136
then no more charity donations at church

>>509109734
Another faggot commenting about something he knows nothing of. Christ was really crucified. Peter really went to Rome. There are many many parts of the Bible that are historically accurate. You would know that, had you actually done the work of reading it.

>>509113092
>Satan rules this world for now.
Why can't yhwh stop him? Is yhwh not all powerful?

>>509114480
How are you an adult and still don't grasp this?
God allows it to happen because it must happen
We cannot comprehend God's plan
but clearly part of it is that we live in a fallen world, and there is a path to salvation
if we have faith, and actually invest ourselves in recognizing the nature of the world we live in, and really thinking about it

fucking think about it
If something is happening, God clearly allowed it to happen for a reason. It shouldn't be a confusing concept if you believe he is truly omnipotent.

>>509114308
Mate, medieval peasants had more than 180 (sometimes more than 240) free days when 'working' for their feudal lord.
>>509114224
You could be right. But I wouldn't even call those bad things because they are targeting corruption.
Btw, what do you think of ethiopian bible, it has some books that are not part of KJV collection?

This seems like an important world event or political topic.

>>509107902 (OP)
Who knows? Remember when pol had the pray team praying for the death of the satanic pope and not only did the pope drop dead right on schedule but pol got wink wink hit by a hacker so pol could shutdown the record of the successful prayer operation.

>>509107902 (OP)
He must've missed the part where you're supposed to resist evil/the devil and it will fuck off. This is an active measure. Claims that rebuking it or turning the other cheek are modern corruptions

>>509114632
>Mate, medieval peasants had more than 180 (sometimes more than 240) free days when 'working' for their feudal lord.
yes but their working days were much longer and harder, just in a physical sense
you get winter "off" but you're using that time not to relax and have holidays and be cozy, but to not freeze or starve to death
and that's directly dependent on how hard you worked during the planting seasons, during which you'd be at it from sun-up to sundown and you'd still have to pay woodpenny or whatever the fuck they called it
you couldn't even collect your own real-ass firewood or hunt anything bigger than a rabbit unless you wanted to risk getting in trouble with what was essentially a localized monarchy

>>509107902 (OP)
holy shit it's happening. tkd threough philosophy is the final red pill

>>509107902 (OP)
I love having stefbot back on X. Cluttering up my feed with arguments. World is healing.

>>509114480
Because it needs to happen, bible tells you why and my understanding from belief is that God is separating things to undo corruption Satan caused after judgement comes and save what is worthy of saving and destroy things not worthy saving.

>>509114000
Demiurge begone

>>509114863
>Cluttering up my feed with arguments
I wish he didn't respond to every person by quoting them it ends up as a new post

>>509107902 (OP)
God can save your soul from judgement if you want him to, but you cannot escape evil people because every single person, even Stefan, is naturally evil.

>>509114093
I want you to pray for peace with the us, iran and russia. we open full trade with both of them. including medical visas and firearm sales

>>509109516
>Not giving access to a kike book means that you are a kike

>>509115071
I don't understand why God doesn't just completely destroy souls that are troublesome
Hell shouldn't need to exist, since the punishment isn't for rehabilitation

>>509114863
incel uprising is back on track. the universe is indeed healing

>>509113092
>Oh nooo muh shaytaan fear the desert demon shaytaan, our desert foreskin demon YHWH will save us from shaytaan

Shut the fuck up, retard. You can only speak in semitic mythology. Our world is fucked because of real actors doing subversive shit, not because of muh shaytaan

>>509109047
my god is better than your god
your god is fake and gay

>>509109808
copium

>>509113092
satan is make belief
it's like saying gravity is controlled by an entity who lives on pluto, pure fiction

>>509114801
No, they weren't. It was based on good will, and not slavery. For example in medieval england peasants had to give 1/11 of their grain to their landlord and get security, home and plowlands to work on mostly for themselves. In medieval poland you were required to give 10% to your landlord and do about week worth of working for him.
When it comes to plowing the land, yes, it was hard work, but it was hard work to survive, not hard work to please your feudal lord as he simply coudn't do anything if farmers rebelled against him in great numbers and that's why lords were lenient and not too demanding towards serfs.

>>509107902 (OP)
Protestants think you pray for gifts and things like parking spots. That's not going to work. You pray to be more like God instead

God helps those who help themselves. Only Protestant heretics and atheists believe that God interferes in daily life.

>>509114425
fake fake fake fake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xlNEJcdra0

>>509115254
You are the ones believing semitic mythology since in judaism satan is not evil and man is the source of evil. >>509115262
You are make belief.

>>509115117
because the creator of this material reality is evil. he struck me down with a shingles outbreak and a flared up worsening MS and let a bunch of armchair psychiatrists conned by government inserted feds call me and others schizos to continue to psyop us. the creator of this world is evil and the earth's denizens are its evil reflection. it stuffs evil souls into bodies to further suffering for good individuals and feed off loosh.

i am the messiah. the real one. there is a big ball of light outside this material planet that loves us.

>>509107902 (OP)
And his suffering made him into a philosopher who values truth and love over all things. His suffering gave him insight into the human condition. His suffering made him into who he is today.

Your prayer was answered, Stefan. You were made into the answer to the prayers of others, and in so being have been vindicated over all of your oppressors.

>>509115559
>because the creator of this material reality is evil
no, evil is a part of this reality so the creator has the capacity for evil
there's a big difference

>>509107902 (OP)
a prayer made in vain is utterly worthless. and the prayer of an unrepentant sinner is even more so. praying in vain is like if I asked you to help me but my tone of voice betrayed that I didnt believe you could do anything at all, youd probably tell me to fuck off. And the prayer of an unrepentant sinner is like if a crack head asks you for money, youd be an idiot to give it. But if that crack head was putting in an honest effort toward fixing his shit, maybe you might consider tossing him $5. neither of those is a 1:1 analogy. A prayer made in vain is the product of feigned faith. And sin isnt exactly what people say it is. Its not the deed that is sin it is how a person does what ever they do, its an internal thing. Feeling ashamed, or guilty are both sins. There are deeds that damned near guarantee a person would feel either or both but in theory it is possible to do them without sinning. Just would be stupid to try and prove it. shame, guilt, being discouraged, being demoralized, being resentful (wrath), focusing on "what others have and you dont" (envy), flip flopping from one thing to the next (adultery), being swayed by "new thing" (lust), etc. Children are weak in these areas because no one is teaching it to anyone, it is treated as toxic waste but it is the way to live. And, it has nothing to do with morals, it has to do with identity and character. ignore those things and your concept of your own identity becomes surface level boiler plate at best, just words that dont have any deeper meaning.

>>509115612
it is evil. i am 100% sure of it.

>>509115626
We were made to be more than conquerors, beings that have no reason whatsoever to fear or worry or settle for anything short of perfect excellence. A person that does not have this built into themselves like a tower that wont be toppled are in complete and total disagreement with God. And then they shout out "God must not be real or he must not care about us" never once considering that they have mistaken everything and trusted what society has taught them and entirely ignored what the Holy Spirit has been whispering to them since before they were born.

>>509115559
Gnosticism is gay and retarded please stop.

>>509115307
>It was based on good will
haha no it wasn't you naive kid
it looked that way on the surface

let me explain europen feudalism to you in a way you'll understand
>Hi, I am your neighbor and I have a BIG ARMY and a lot of LAND and a BIG CASTLE that you CANNOT DEFEAT
>I have noticed that you are weaker than me, but have desireable land and assets of your own
>I do not wish to exhaust my resources in a conflict, which is otherwise inevitable without the following deal:
>Do you pledge to be my friend, and maybe marry some of your daughters to my sons, and all of our proceeding generations will honor this agreement and I'll get your good farmland and you'll get my military might and together we'll become strong enough that other people can't fuck with us?

>>509115641
Yeah I literally just said that
it's good and evil
by definition of being "all things", it is obviously all things

>>509107902 (OP)
God can't give you salvation. you have to put the work in and earn it yourself.

>>509115862
ah yes the famous last words of the buddha siddhartha
>figure it our for urself lmao

>>509114224
>every single word in the King James Version is 100% correct and exact.

So the loving god that adores children DID kill every innocent firstborn of Egypt (after hardening the Pharohs heart to prevent him for letting the jews go) just to flex?

>>509114141
I need 100 million dollars. Pray for me.

>>509115925
correct

>>509115626
>>509115652
Exactly, Jesus said to *keep* asking, seeking, and knocking. Not ask once and everything will be given to you on a whim. Have these people blaming God ever focused on him only for even a week straight? They’re okay with focusing on everything else that doesn’t matter but they won’t stop sinning and the screens internet distraction, they’ll dismiss Jesus’ existence after ten flimsy prayers but they won’t give him even a week…

>>509116063
the idea that you can wash away your sins with the blood sacrifice of another person is kind of retarded don't you think
>but it was god who incarnated on purpose with the intention of being killed
that makes it worse

>>509115833
Raised an atheist, grew up as antisemite agnostic, became christian when I learned enough.
Church is within yourself. Community is people around you. Neighbours are people close to you. Make of that as you will.

>>509107902 (OP)
He prayed to yahweh

>>509116063
I come from King David. It's all nonsense bro. God gave me a chest deformity called pectus excavatum along with another rib deformity in the right side where Jesus would have been stabbed with the spear.

It's all nonsense. If it's not nonsense, then God plays a cruel joke and gives Jesus's ancestors bad deformities and tries to take all the credit from Jesus by killing him and then slowly destroying his reincarnation through illnesses and by throwing liars and heathens at him.

>>509107902 (OP)
>Jesus promised salvation from evel when he died on the cross
Read the Bible again

>>509115913
you can't just pray away evil. it's intertwined within us. you can state your intentions but they don't have any meaning until you do something about it

>>509107902 (OP)
>Evil
Does not exist objectively. It's a human concept.
>God
What is God? Humans have prayed to (statues of) the mother goddess, the bull gods (hi, Yahweh), volcano gods, one-eyed Norse gods, blue elephant gods, winged serpent gods, monkey gods, etc. Now four billion of em pray to an invisible, abstract god that descends from that one bull god (hi, Yahweh) Others pray to a fat bald dude with large ears, or to that blue elephant god. Praying to something that only exists in human imagination doesn't work. Does this mean that God doesn't exist? No, it doesn't. I'm just saying that people keep worshipping things that aren't god.

>>509115612
The knowledge of good and evil is the source of all sin. That sounds like cliche bullshit dont it? The religious talk about things that they do not understand and in doing so they misrepresent everything. bear with me: God is absolute. This world we are in is subjective but within it there are things that are absolute, their conditions, their parameters, do not change. A man can train himself to be unaffected by pain but that does not negate that stepping on a lego piece produces pain stimuli, etc. There are many things that are absolute, and whatsoever is absolute is by necessity a law, it cant be broken, despite all attempts to circumvent it its boundaries will remain.

A person can keep many things in mind but he can only fully focus on one thing at a time. And what a man focuses on becomes his bearings, both his drive and direction. For however long that thing is in the forefront of his mind that thing is his God. Whether you can view that statement as literal or figurative doesnt matter, which ever suits you. This is where "the knowledge of good and evil" comes in. You can either look for goodness or you can look for wickedness, you cant look for both at the same time. And, whatsoever it is that you are looking for you will find it. If you look for wickedness then you will find no end to the reasons to say "this world is hell", likewise if you look for good you will start to see heaven. If that can only be figurative to you thats fine, but if so consider it figuratively. Now it isnt just "the knowledge of good and evil" it is the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil. Anyone that looks for an actual tree here is a peak gorilla retard, something else entirely is jeing described. A fruit has seeds which grow more trees which yield more of the same fruit. The knowledge of good and evil is "a tree", you take a bite of its fruit, throw the pit away, and then it grows into another tree bearing more "good and evil".

>>509116119
God came down in a body of a man and fulfilled his promise given to Abraham.
That promise was to bless the whole world through blessing Abraham and his descendants and one who blessed the whole world as promised was descendant of Abraham that was Jesus. Simple as, promise fullfiled, kikes will sethe eternally as there is no real jews after blessing of the world. Only imposters posing as biblical jews and inverting everything upside down revealing their satanic nature.

>>509114000
as if an omnipotent being cares if ants prostrate themselves
the bronze age conception of god is a petty sultan dialed up to the max

>>509116541
"Good and evil" is the ultimate lie. There can be either good or evil, they can not exist in the same place. And should they ever it would be like a sun collapsing into itself creating a black hole. As far as that is concerned it is better to choose evil tha n to sit in the pleb npc cesspit that is "good and evil"

>>509116541
Have you seen heaven?

>>509116395
people do all sorts of stupid things and think themselves wise for doing it. Mount stupid isnt just relegated to midwit politics and pop science, its biggest home is religion.
>there is no objective evil
but there is absolute evil.

>>509116705
its all around us so yea

>>509108256
You have to be under 80 years old to post on this board.

>>509116705
This is one of the few guys I believe. I believe there is an afterlife with a good God, a big ball of light that loves us, but the warden who runs this material earth prison is the most evil and/or incompetent impostor who subjects us to suffering due to our physical constraints and laws of physics

Some of us suffer more than others and have entirely different perspectives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCpBa1xgFv0&t=928s

God doesn't exist, it's a behavior modification system for stupids. Stefan is admitting to everyone that he's a simple standard issue retard.

No, you can't fix it with more effort.

Shouldn’t have defoo’d

>>509116549
yeah I know the story idiot
I'm telling you I reject the premise that anybody else can pay for my sins in my place

if you're guilty of a crime but somebody else goes to jail for you you're still guilty
even if it's god that went to jail for you

>>509107902 (OP)
He is the evil tho,all white supremacists are evil.

>>509116541
>The knowledge of good and evil is the source of all sin
It's the only thing that sets us apart from the animals

>>509107902 (OP)
All things work together for the good of those who are called by God (Romans 8). Suffering just serves to make us depend more on God and evil is used as a negative example for us to judge in our sanctification process in becoming more like Christ. We value the good even more highly when we have experienced the bad.

I prayed for 24 years for Michelle Branch to save me but she never did.

>>509116940
To you. I mean if you can choose what to believe that is alread a good enough reason to believe in a God that loves you and gives you that free choice. On other hand, pretty much any other phsyical authority on this earth wants otherwise for you, to tell you what to believe in and hates your free will as something that endangers it's existence.

>>509117078
Ok, point to a single evil thing he said
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIhJnUco2Ys

>>509115104
Done. Watch it happen

>>509114601
>God allows it to happen because it must happen
So is yhwh all powerful or is he constrained by destiny?

This is what God does to the Messiah.

>And the Lord wished to crush him, He made him ill. The Holy One, blessed be He, wished to crush him and to cause him to repent; therefore, he made him ill.

>If his soul makes itself restitution, etc.. Said the Holy One, blessed be He, “I will see, if his soul will be given and delivered with My holiness to return it to Me as restitution for all that he betrayed Me, I will pay him his recompense, and he will see children, etc.

It thinks it can bargain after all this fucking crazy shit

>>509117065
You have never felt fatherly and motherly love I bet.

>>509107902 (OP)
He's still around?

>>509117331
Both and neither
You're still not understanding

>>509116119
Sin is what we hold against ourselves. The guilt, shame, what have you, which we carry around on an easily ignorable level. God didnt need anyone to die to not see us as sinners, we needed someone to die to show us that if we truly want it to be so then whatsoever weve done is water under the bridge. The religious like to beat people over the head with "you are doing evil you are going to go to hell repent you sinner!1!1" The truth is that anyone who has evil thoughts is already in hell.
>what is an evil thought
any thought which disagrees with God
>that sounds stupid and tyrannical
Only if you dont realize what is being disagreed with. God made us to be innocent, entirely blameless, without any imperfections, but we look everywhere to find what we have done wrong, and what is wrong with us. All the volumes of scripture, all the complex mysteries beyond any real understanding, many will tell you its a draconian rulebook that you should either unquestioningly follow or ridicule, others will tell you its some crazy puzzle that you have to solve if you want "real power", its none of those things, all of it, every singular word of it, every combination of every word, all the stories that seem far fetched, all the parables and proverbs, all of it, not for everyone else, not a command to do any particular thing, specifically a message to you, just to say "I love you".

There is only one God but your God is nothing like what any of these fuckers have to say about him.

>>509107902 (OP)
children pray for dumb impossible shit then blame god when they don't get it
i was like that too

>>509117132
then you are without any hope.

>>509117393
You got pretty defensive right there
Do you have an actual refutation of my argument though?

>>509116752
I mean something similar to Acts 7:55-56, how Stephen saw heaven opened, or some sort of veil was torn and he could see through the other side and saw Jesus and the glory of God, and how John was taken to heaven in the spirit.

>>509117445
The real God would stone evil just like it says to do in the Jewish Torah. Western law is written to propagate evil.

>>509117445
Sounds like a big personal therapy session you're having in your head with whatever idealized version of a higher power you've decided is backed up by your worldview

t b desu

>>509117498
Why?

I don't think it's a bad thing that people are sapient, and that means I'm beyond hope?
why nigga

>>509117498
let me just state very clearly
if you think eating the apple was a mistake you are a cuckold on a cosmological level

>>509117502
ah, I thought you were being facetious. Yes but every time it was a "this is personal for you" rather than "heres a message that everyone else needs to hear" sort of thing. Which, I suspect is the case for everyone but most people go straight to crazy town with it.

>>509117501
Yeah, if my child would do some retarded thing that was harmful to itself or others, I would first want to correct it, I'd blame myself as it is merely a child that wasn't supervised and I'd pay for that damage, be it emotionally or physically.
Ergo my statement about you not feeling fatherly and motherly love which I understood by your failure to understand my point.

>>509117616
of course not. if man did something that God didnt want done then that would make him impotent.
>>509117578
That wasnt a "go fuck yourself". explore what hope actually is. There is a whole fucking lot that separates us from animals.

>>509117738
So you think that human beings being able to decide things for themselves, and judge right from wrong on their own, is a bad thing?
You think self-awareness is a problem so dire that it requires throwing people into hell, and all of this other bullshit?

Why?
You'd prefer we just stayed as ignorant animals in a zoo?
Are you even human, with a subservient slave-spirit like that? You are like a peasant who is happy to have some crumbs thrown at him, like a dog who just licks his master. You should just go sit in a corner.

>>509117738
My ability to feel love got destroyed over the years along with my body faculties. I experience a lot of eye pain because I have MS. Love is something that I simply cannot feel here anymore. It is related to the body and spine, and affects the chemicals that enter your body. Love is a chemical in this material planet.

>>509117436
Easier question for you: if yhwh commands something is it good because he commands it or does he command it because it is good?

>>509107902 (OP)

He'll go to heaven when he dies if he believes. Who cares he if he was raped his uncle when he was 3 and contracted aids? Just suffer then you get eternal heaven.

>>509117860
>explore what hope actually is
this is like a bumper sticker on a wine aunt's car

>>509117515
You really think he doesnt? You glossed over what else I said. evil is not deeds, it is something that exists only inside a person. A miserable man gets heaps of reasons to be miserable, if you are looking for actual rocks hitting people you might see it once in a while but most of the time someone "getting stoned to death" is them getting their life shitrekt to the point that they become numb to life itself.

>>509117968
Doesn't matter
It is commanded
good and evil are not relevant to the actual, true God

>>509108256
it always perplexes me how someone filled with so much hate can claim to be a follower of christ
you see it time and time again

>>509118024
and you are like any other troublemaker, Im not the one you are causing trouble for.

>>509117424
He's back.

>>509118054
I don't understand. In fact I have no time for philosophy. You either follow the laws written in the Torah and start stoning people or you will all continue to suffer at the hands of evil people and I will continue to tell you that the creator of the world and its denizens is evil and contradictory and incompetent.

>>509118096
yeah but c'mon man it was a total platitude
"explore what hope really means?"

seriously?

>>509118056
funny how in one reply you are pretending to be a zealous bible thumper and in the next you are being an absolute cretin. How very, very jewish of you.

>>509118207
I'm not a Christian or a Jew I reject everything abrahamic outright, on principle

>>509108833
Protestants struggle with this simple little fact. Something my teachers taught me when I was a kid: God isn't a magical sky wizard that will make things appear just because you demand them.

>>509107902 (OP)
And yet here he is.

>>509117881
>>509117881
>So you think that free will is bad
No, nor did I imply that.
I don't know jack shit about hell or if it even exists or what it exactly is if it exists and who exactly goes there, but I do believe that God as something greater and outside of this thing we call our world knows better than you and me what is right and what is not.
As Terry Davis roughly said
We are birds that have some bird ideas about reality we live in

>>509115111
>if I call hitler jewish maybe chuds will get demoralized
same gayop

>>509118282
you almost lost me until the terry davis reference
he was right, we are in agreement even if we're coming at eachother as adversaries right now

>>509118135
we should start with you and the rest of the synagogue of satan, yes?

>>509118247
if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck its a duck.

>>509117898
Your soul can only operate with what vessel it has at it's disposal. I'm sorry anon, hope it ends as painless as possible

>>509118402
nah you're just seeing jews anywhere there's pushback on christianity
I reject both

>>509118364
Fuck, i don't know, whatever you want to do pal. I've had countless encounters with gentiles and I hate you so fucking much. You're just made more perfect in so many ways, and Jews have fucked up genetics and God is just evil, and then you press down upon us and mistreat us for centuries.

I really don't give a fucking rat's ass.

>>509107902 (OP)
God knows our thoughts why should I pray. I believe in Jesus but prayer seems useless

>>509118442
pfft. and what was said to Job at the end? its your own fault.
>>509118440
and yet here you are behaving precisely like what you claim to reject.

>>509118442
Don't play the victim, you want to be destroyed.
Tikkun Olam, faggot

>>509118492
thought is prayer.

>>509118555
>and yet here you are behaving precisely like what you claim to reject.
sure if you think anybody who criticizes Christianity is a jew, then yeah

but my question still stands
why is it righteous and good for somebody else to take your punishment for you?

How are you saved by somebody else dying in your place? You're still guilty, and you didn't even suffer. You just got a get out of jail free card.

is that really good?

>>509108906
Exactly! They pray to the deceptive god, Yeshua is modern Hebrew it has many variations...Greek and Ancient Hebrew(If we can even call it that) was different. The entire scripture is subverted but no one will believe us.

>>509113694
>yeah but why though? why the fuck would I want to do go along with that?
At that point they can only treat God like a celestial dictator that deserves worship just for the sake of it, or just threaten you with magic lava

I prayed for more than one dollar when I was a podcaster.
It did not come.

>>509108256
>You have to work and suffer if you want God to listen.
Yeah, and then he will send you more work and suffering.
The real truth is that the only god is money. Ask any church or anyone actually successful, and if they were to tell the truth they would tell you that.

>>509118555
>its your own fault.
Jews are in that Catch-22 where if they hate God for what he does to them in genetics or environment or scenarios, they face even greater retribution at the hands of people who are genetically overall superior to them. God is evil. I am sorry but the God of this world is 100% calculating evil. It designs suffering and even inspires the Bible to be written in such a way to invoke more suffering, violence and destruction.

>>509107902 (OP)
I have prayed every single night, since I was 5 years old, for not ever waking up ever again.
Yet, here I am posti

>>509118442
Your fucked up genetics are linked to your ancestors inbreeding, sacrificing children and praying to Moloch/Remphan/Satan for centuries and yet you wonder and envy of people better than you whose ancestors prayed to Christ for centuries and still you won't see what the right thing here is.
You really are of corrupt seed

>>509118705
you're right but it's worth clarifying that the actual only truth is influence
but money is the best way to have it

>>509118944
The reason you have better genetics is because you killed off all your undesirables over centuries

>>509108652
It doesn’t say when

>>509118990
You become undesirable by becoming unloveable. If you know anything about your race you will know why you are undesirable.

>>509119166
I guess God is evil.

>>509107902 (OP)

He was fucking born evil the jewish smouldering
shit stirring subversive prick, thankfully their not all like this cocksucker

>>509107902 (OP)
u need to rizz god up fr fr just show him ur bussy and u bussin no cap

>>509119222
Your god, aka Satan, one who your ancestors worshipped, material god, is.
God my ancestors worshipped loves me and everyone who accepts his love, simple as

>>509107902 (OP)
It's not God's job to intervene on your behalf, this was the price paid for eating the Apple of Eden and attaining free will.

>>509110082
Because we are not slaves.

"Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves" - Genesis 3:7

>>509119347
I don't accept your God's love. It's evil and contradictory and spiteful and punishes the good. Your god killed Jesus and millions of Jews

>>509119349
Free will existed before eating of the tree of good and bad

>>509118331
>if I call hitler christian maybe chuds will get moralized
same gayop, zigger

>>509119445
Not one bit of that is true. That is all on your god who you worship and reap what you have sown yourself. You retard think worshipping money and material things doesn't have it's own price, you get your reciept couple of hundred years later and shout oy vey your God is evil.
You are evil and that is why you have a evil god, you should have the mental capacity to understand this.

>>509116193
You can have christian morality with your community and pagan one with the society

>>509107902 (OP)
He's doing it wrong.

He is cursed for being a Jew. Apologize for that first then ask sincerely why you think you deserve anything

I prayed growing up that the nastiest and worst kid in the world does not have his prayers answered if he does not give one dollar to charity

>>509116119
You dont understand the ritual of the scapegoat. The concept is to bring about the understanding of guilt. Biblical jews understood sin and guilt. The wages of sin is death, God becoming man, living perfectly and dying both teaches us the guilt of killing something perfectly innocent. If the crucifixion seems absurdity, Jesus addresses the absurdity himself as he is fully human, he asks God why he has been forsaken as a human. God is asking himself, from a human perspective, the same question you are asking- why is blood sacrifice nessecary? The original sin is becoming sentient, the wage of that is knowledge of one's mortality, Jesus' sacrifice provides meaning and through his meaning you gain salvation.

>>509119702
The creator of this material reality is evil by crafting cosmic horrors like the penis and vagina. It is a disgusting Lovecraftian horror simulation designer worthy of the utmost derision, and you suck this thing's cock and eat the AIDS cum

>>509116193
And one day you'll reach steps 3-5

>>509107902 (OP)
Why do bad things happen to people who don't deserve it is probably one of the oldest questions there is.

God always answers every prayer. Sometimes the answer is "no" and the reason why will not be satisfactory to us.

Yeah man this rich and famous guy who has made a life doing exactly what he wants isn’t blessed in any way.

>>509107902 (OP)
You're not supposed to pray for salvation from evil. You're supposed to pray for salvation from your sins. Or do you think you and me are without evil?

>>509116940
Do you have a study to support your claim?

>>509107902 (OP)
He didn't prayed his ''whole life'', but only as a child. It says in his own post. He is atheist (and partially Jewish)
Also then says ''he prayed from salvation from evil as a child'' so what evil did happened to him exactly when he was a child? He doesn't even make sense. Typical entitled atheist. There are billions of humans out there. You aren't special.

>>509119879
Nah, already had a phase where I thought that christianity is to weak and defenseless to jewish subversion but once you understand that christian "institutions" are not really christian in any sense and that only real church is church within you and actually read the bible and what it says about kikes after Christ, you'll know to differate between kosher christianity today and christianity that propelled pinnacle of human civilization.

>>509108256
Nah bro, it'd been 10x worse if he hadn't prayed. God's just tired of that guy being a pussy

>>509107902 (OP)
>Dad didn't let me eat ice cream until I got diabetes so I hate him
"Salvation from evil" in the sense that he seems to have wanted would have required his immediate death. Sticking around in a fallen world is mercy for the unsaved, and for the saved it is a call to action to fulfill whatever purpose God is still keeping you around to do.

>>509108256
Lmao fuck praying then

>>509119856
No, I can just find beauty in some of it, I don't worship any thing in this reality other than God, through his son, Jesus Christ with his Holy spirit guiding me.
I like Hitler though.

>>509107902 (OP)
>Prays to a jewish war/storm god for deliverance from evil
>Nothing happens
Golly fucking gee Mr.Argument. What could've gone wrong?

>>509120493
The fact that Jews have to be hounded by hundreds of millions of white people who support Hitler is an evil god. The world is a ridiculous parody of the real thing --- it's the Demiurge's fractured recreation of the pleroma that is full of goodness and evil. In the modern age, Fascism has to be sold through satire, like Starship Troopers or RoboCop or Helldivers 2. Their uniforms look cool, but their ideas border on the insane and fantastic (as in fantasy). It comes across like they're in hysterics just like Hitler was. It requires a crazy screamer to sell Fascism. It's a purely ridiculous concept

>>509118990
>The reason you have better genetics is because you killed off all your undesirables over centuries
Your blood is cursed. Embrace Christ and beg forgiveness for the crimes of your ancestors.

>>509120493
Hitler success was staged by the kikes. France didn’t fall to the axis, it was betrayed from French kikes politicians and generals

>>509121095
No. God is evil.

>>509108256
Honestly you couldn't create a better tool to control a bunch of peasants if you tried

>>509121188
Your God is, yes.. because your holy book, the Talmud, is a bunch of bullshit legalese trying to get around actual Gods law and you worship fucking Satan. Your Sabbath is even on Saturns Day/Satans day/Saturday.

>>509120841
>By their fruits you shall know them
Now that your clown attempt of accusing Hitler of all those things you've done in the whole world through ages like transfering sins into a chicken is showing cracks and that whole worldview is starting to crumble you disease ridden cursed kikes are relegated to shouting that God is evil in an attempt to continue doing only thing your race has chosen to do, spread chaos, evil and attempting to drown as many others as you are getting drowned yourself by your own doing.

>>509121111
yeh yeh next you'll say he also was jewish and financed by rothschilds, your smear campaign is lame

>salvation from evil didn't come
I wonder why

>>509121111
It pretty much shows what is possible when you toss out jewish financial system and media.
Too bad kikes controlled rest of the world.

>>509114281
>telling people to read jewish literature
Sus

>>509121889
Israelite*
Different people, different culture, different belief system, different language, different genetics and has nothing to do with jewish literature which is Talmud

Prayer has a funny RNG element.

>>509122350
Lol here we go with this shit again. Drop the VPN, mutt.

>>509108256
>Children usually don't earn answered prayers
Maybe emphasize because they haven't realized the bad things they've done themselves. Which seems to be the case from OP's pic related when he said he asked "salvation from evil". Implying he thought he was all good and everything else happening to him was evil. A common mistake most of us make at some point, and unfortunately, a mistake that guy from pic related seems to still be making in adulthood. There are children who go through worse and come to a realization of their own wrongdoings far sooner than any of us. And it's possible for them to have their prayers answered during that time.

>>509107902 (OP)
I've prayed and hoped for salvation and it has come
More than once too
My heart will desire freedom from some type of cage and the universe has provided more than once
I believe in this stuff
It has never come exactly as I wanted it but it arrived nonetheless

>>509108256
Kinda this.
God is not a magic genie who is required to grant your wishes.

Also, if God had granted me wealth at age 20 I'd be dead or in prison. Stupid 20 year old me thought my life would be better if I had a million dollars but 40 year old me understands I would've been dead or in prison. God was MERCIFUL in not giving me what I wanted.
I needed to become a better, more mature man before I could even begin to handle any sort of success. I can feel it in my bones that *if* I'm to ever become successful (starting new business) I'm supposed to use that success for a larger purpose than me.
There is no guarantee that God will reward me or use me for a great purpose, but unlike 20year old me I at least have a higher purpose in mind than just physical enjoyment

>>509123073
I am a Serb, with my heritage from Montenegro, Germany and Hungary in the last 2 generations and here you are thinking that Israelites from 2000 years ago who accepted Christ and were more in numbers in Alexandria in Egypt and area of modern turkey (who spoke greek mostly) than in roman province of Judea back then are same people as Jews 100 generations after.
Delusional.

Salvation comes from within, not material speaking

>>509110082
you forgot this wojak

>>509123500
We dont know. To quote Davey Boy Smith
>"I wasn't even there!"

>>509113694
>why?
>WHY?
Why does it need to be transactional? Don't most of us wish we had a woman who loved us and didn't just view us in terms of what we can provide? Why wouldn't God want to be loved in a non-transactional way?
Also in getting more mature I realized just how poor my decisions were when I was younger, which helps take away the "Why did you allow this?" attitude that takes over some people

>>509107902 (OP)
That's not how praying works
You're supposed to eliminate evil yourself
Then pray for forgiveness of your sins

>>509107902 (OP)
>I prayed for a life without any difficulty.
>God didn't make it happen.
CHRISTKEKS BTFO! HOW WILL WE COPE?

>>509108825
>first you have to die, then you'll see that my God hypothesis is true
The mental gymnastics you guys do every day could be so funny if the consequences weren't so bad.

>>509114281
>Only the beginning
Liar, wholesale slaughters continue on and off through the deuteronomistic books

>>509114480
yahweh IS satan. Read your OT, there's too many clues that it is a lesser being still rooted in a monotheletic context. He's not THE(one and only) God, he's THE God of the Jews, as opposed to other peoples' Gods. In other words, a lesser being, some sort of Angel or Demon

>>509115254
in your worldview there is nothing wrong with those real actors doing subversive shit because it's just chemical reactions going on in their brain vs chemical reactions in your brain, neither are "right". You can't even argue anything is evil, you are a clump of matter and they are a clump of matter, the mightier clump of matter wins and the inferior clump loses. You have to adopt the Christian world view to even claim they are subversive because without it there is nothing to subvert.

>>509121818
A French reconnaissance pilot saw the traffic jam of German forces outside Ardennes forest and the kike French high command ignored the reports while the German forces were sitting ducks

>>509108256

Phew. Look at this balamite appealing to everyone’s egos by implying they have something to do with their salvation.


Your flesh is fucked, that’s why Jesus had to mitigate it with himself. Likewise why would I expect to be rewarded for doing something I’m expected to do anyway by a perfect law? That’s right, your little boast in what you do is infact led entirely by performer legalistic dogshit. Vain vapid theatrics like 90% of modern Christianity. You call them churches, I call them apostate mills.

Christcucks really are the perfect golems. It's unreal how much suffering are willing to endure in the name of protecting Jews.

>>509107902 (OP)
I’m sure his life was fine when he was a kid
>he was ..le abused
Sure sure . Everyone was abused

God is evil

>Yet it pleased the LORD to crush him by disease; To see if his soul would offer itself in restitution, That he might see his seed, prolong his days, And that the purpose of the LORD might prosper by his hand: Of the travail of his soul he shall see to the full, even My servant, Who by his knowledge did justify the Righteous One to the many, And their iniquities he did bear.

Multiple sclerosis

>>509107902 (OP)
when Stefan prayed, God said "not an argument"

>>509108256
More or less the abrahamic framework. God makes you suffer either intentionally, like Job, or by neglect. But its all fine, because its all to show he's good when he tosses you a crumb.

>>509108256
first post best post

>>509107902 (OP)
Former christcuck here. Realizing how useless prayer was in my own life was a huge redpill for me. I still believe in god I just think he’s a lot different from what Abrahamic religions describe him to be. God is not your baby sitter and he’s not a bearded genie in a bottle. Prayer is a waste of time.

>>509108652
yes, but a Christian without a cross isn't a Christian, do you think Christ was just tickled to death? the servant isn't greater than the Master

>>509114141
>pray for health
>get cancer instead
Yeah, you really needed that suffering, so you come closer to me because your impending death. Too bad you chose the wrong branch of faith I created tho, you go to hell. Don't forget to say thank you for my just ruling.
T. God

>>509108256
>You have to work and suffer if you want God to listen.
lol, of course you'd say that. your god is some kind of sadist. this much is obvious.
>begets son
>to get tortured to death by jews
>to teach said jews a lesson
NO THANKS YOU SICK FUCKS, SHOVE YOUR SADISTIC JEWISH DEATH CULT UP YOUR ASS

>>509108256
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

>>509124525
Job is an amazing story. He kills Job’s children but it’s somehow ok because he gives Job more. How about resurrecting the first kids instead you fucking asshole. The Old Testament god is way worse then Zeus

>>509124718
They worship weakness and suffering. It’s slave morality

>>509114601
>God allows it to happen because it must happen
God creates everything, and can't be constrained due to omnipotence. What ever happens, its because he wanted it to happen. Those deformed children in India, God wanted them to born like that.

>>509124672
> presumes to know what God thinks
Lmao religion is a tard convention

>>509124481
Living in America where they have no respect for the law of the Torah and being corralled around by cops, judges and mental health institutions if you fight back against evil or incompetence truly is the worst Hell

On top of that God shut me down with Shingles and that was it. I can't walk outside without my ankles going numb. I can't walk straight. I can't breathe right. My eyes hurt, get dry and itchy.

God knew everything I would do, yet this entity wants a result, and it will even hurt the one everyone thinks he loves most: the Messiah. My life has been filled with pain, and on top of that visions of horrors and existential dread that filled me with anxiety.

This place is run by an evil entity. It claims to be God, but all it wants to do is take credit for the one pure soul on Earth: the Messiah who comes from David's line. He could have made many Jesuses, but he did not choose to.

>>509123500
You guys always leave out the part about how it was "israelites" who had christ put to death and that the whole exodus thing never happened.

>>509107902 (OP)
Why would you expect a god who demands circumcision to deliver children from evil?

>>509124861
Yeah, you need to be a priest to do that for a living. You could call me a hobbyist dabbling in priesthood.

>>509107902 (OP)
What a drama queen.

>>509125044
>Why would you expect a god who demands circumcision to deliver children from evil?

Don't be islamophobic, anon

I'm a very pale Jew and they say people with MS have a vitamin D deficiency.

Lmfao. God is evil. I never went into the sun and I did all my work for God on the computer and then he smited me with Shingles flaring up my MS so bad I was sure I had MS. I'm going to see an Indian doctor

>The vision of heaven is shorter than the depiction of hell, and described more fully in the Akhmim version. In heaven, people have pure milky white skin, curly hair, and are generally beautiful. The earth blooms with everlasting flowers and spices. People wear shiny clothes made of light, like the angels. Everyone sings in choral prayer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EWqTym2cQU&list=RD6EWqTym2cQU&start_radio=1

Fake god

>>509125903
Will you just die already you deranged attention seeking kike?

>>509107902 (OP)
What evil is he talking about? What happened?
And did he pray for Lauren Southern to come?

>>509126044
No

>>509118255
Pretty good deal for religious leaders. They sell a product that does nothing and get to call you evil or lost if you question the scam.

>>509126051
>And did he pray for Lauren Southern to come?
No, that would be her personal knight in shining armor. His prayers also unanswered.

>>509108898
the child was evil all along
what a twist

Jesus isn't real either, bro. Jesus was a deranged attention-seeking kike. There is no Jesus in the sky in Heaven. There is no good god that looks out for you here. It is death. That is all you will find here. There is no happy ending. There is only death.

>>509124672
>>509124826
>>509125100
>>509126257

Muslim brother from helsinki; insha allah we will take over europe soon

>>509126507
They will have to face lestadians first. And escape the leash where libs keep them, because that is what they are, a pet/zoo for urbanite liberal class.

>>509107902 (OP)
stefan is gay
why is stefan gay?
why did stefan choose to be gay?
ask god and spear him to death already
he's also a jew and a lover of freud the uber pedo kjing
stefan shouldnt be allowed to have any influence at the very bleast
a work camp? nah we tried it, didnt work out
when jews pray they pray for evil anyway

>>509108654
you wear a ghy memejewflag and you project a lot just like a parasite jew

>>509108652
>The bible says ask and you shall be given
oh ok
can you give me a million dollars?
oh right you dont believe in the bible in the first place lol
fuck off

>>509107902 (OP)
they cant. they all have the same problem.
i could tell you why though. its because theyre spiritual semites, fully spiritually dependent on jews. they worship a fictional jew. they regularly engage in practices that mock their creators, like pretending to be tay sachs infested vampires who drink their makers blood and eat their flesh like cannibals. its weird. even the gods think its weird.

>>509109047
Ora et Labora
pray and work
these shitty atheists are just pathetic roaches

>>509107902 (OP)
He didn't do it right

>>509107902 (OP)
She prayed to a false god. Judging by the name, one of the Christian gods. They're all as fake as Jesus Christ himself. They never answer prayers and their priests preach whatever the political elites of the week order them to preach.

>>509114308
christians cant even define good, how are they going to accomplish good works?

>>509109084
that's always the shitheists excuse
>boohoo my mom died killing herself with her lesbian lover now i hate god very much for life (Hitchens)
i guess they deserved it?
or they were useful as atheists
whatever, let them die alone and addicted like they all do

>>509110082
If the Devil is real why do good things happen?

>>509107902 (OP)
Divinity is a finite quality in humans like height or dick size. God wont answer your prayers if you dont have it or piety o algo

>>509109393
>In my experience, attending church interferes with God's ability to answer prayers.
quite insightful ty anon

>>509108652
you aint given shit, god doesnt care about anyone of you. he might be caring about his son and thats also questionable.
why did satan rebel together with an army of angels WHEN ITS ALL SO GREAT IN HEAVEN YOU RETARDS!

>>509109516
>You are a Kike
that's how catholicism used to work
it worked out quite well too

>>509109657
dude stefan is such a horrendous kike he's been in love with freud the pedodemon all his life
philosopher my ass, more like pedosopher amirite

>>509107902 (OP)
>I prayed for some vague thing at some unspecified time
>But I have definitive proof that God did nothing and will do nothing

>>509108256
Boomer spotted

>>509127224
The Jews, of course.

>>509107902 (OP)
God is not a wish granting genie

>>509127224
>why did satan rebel together with an army of angels
Satan was butthurt that God gave humans free will

WHY WOULD ANGELS BETRAY GOD WHEN HES AN ALL LOVING HAPPY HAGGARD LOLI MAN THAT LOVES EVERYONE AND FULFILLS ALL YOUR DREAMS!

>>509127405
Tell that to christians

>>509107902 (OP)
He never truly loved or prayed to God. If he did than God would have answered.

>>509127492
Satan was jealous of God's power
And deluded enough to think he could overpower God.
You can't use logic to analyze emotional actions of beings with free will.
e.g., why do people participate in high-risk activities like sky diving or spelunking? They just want to.

>>509126762
christkike getting angry when you point out they are frauds

>god is your loving father in heaven who cares about you and knows everything you need and wishes to help you :DDD

>GOD DOESNT OWE YOU SHIT. HE IS NOT A GENIE. KEEP FUCKING GROVELING YOU PIECE OF TRASH. ITS YOUR FAULT HES NOT LIVING UP TO HIS PROMISES

ah the duality of christians. it's like having an abusive father and family you never asked for

>>509127487
okay and all the fallen angels choose to leave heaven because of some random retarded humans having free will.
off course thats bullshit, there is something wrong with this god thats obvious.

I pray though not sure to what and its generally worked out. Very happy with the results. Glad of my entity, glad to be with it.

>>509127858
satan is literally his son, when he gave life to his demise then something is wrong with this god. hes an idiot like odin. hes an idiot just like you guys.

>>509127638
What a sad excuse. We both know that this god never answers prayers. Because it's an imposter. Wherever Christianity goes, atheism follows in its footsteps. Guess why.

>>509127858
it wasnt the humans, theyre not relevant. it was god himself that wanted to get rid of he himself. he created his son satan to be cool for one time in his retarded existence of an all loving phaggot.

what do you say faggots die and god raughs. GOD CRIES WHEN FAGGOTS DIE. its satan who raughs.

>>509107902 (OP)
Did he not read the bible. Evil will be our adversary for this entire life.

The one who endures to the end will be saved -Matt 24:13

It's a shame more people don't know about Emmanuel Swedenborg. He explains so many misconceptions people have about Christianity and backs everything with incredibly detailed citations.

>>509127561
Evangelicals are morons so it's not even worth trying

>>509127858
Lucifer was not jealous of God's power. He was jealous that God gave mankind a much lesser race compared to the immortal angels the absolute gift of free will. That's what led to his rebellion and him deciding to use that gift to turn mankind away from God

>>509107902 (OP)
God would never answer a Jews prayers. He sure as fuck would never choose him as his chosen people.

>>509112136
exactly. he's a worthless nigger

>>509113694
God's commandments aren't "Do this just because".
He's explaining basic spiritual laws very much the same way a father might tell his kid not to touch the pot sitting on the stove because he'll get burned. Or to put this seed in a patch of ground with certain qualities, keep watering it, and eventually you'll have this amazingly delicious fruit.

God designed the universe such that we can all receive any amount of his power, but to design such a system, he had to make it so that evil people would strip themselves of power otherwise they'd destroy the universe. All the commandments do is point the way to go if you want to receive all his gifts.

>>509116752
how are christkikes this gay?

https://youtu.be/6lzaPqKf2zs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntc

Stop pretending to be better than God and accept salvation when He's willing to give it you

>>509107902 (OP)
Not an argument.

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>>509108256
SHUT
THE FUCK UP
RABBI