Thread 509111987

Is Miyazaki correct in his assertion that the evil monsters in Lord of the Rings, or Alien, etc. are just metaphors for other races?
Is that how movie villains are created?it that how anglos are feeling about the world surrounding em?

Yes

>>509111987 (OP)
Star Wars is a jewish fantasy where Germay won world war 2

>regarding about whether it's possible to have an adventure story in the modern age, for example, kids are still reading Robinson Crusoe book
>If you read that one, you'll see that That's the story of a hero who civilizes a cannibal named Friday by using him as a servant.its terrible story.Europeans did the slave trade and all kinds of things in Africa and Asia and nah they are still doing it in Africa right?
>When you think about it all together, it's a really stupid person who wants to write that kind of story now.
>So, suppose we were to write a story like Robinson Crusoe, but replace the cannibals with more incomprehensible aliens and So everything is all right?
>How much of a change in mentality is there?nothing That's why they frequently make films against the communist guerrillas as villains now, who until then were Nazi soldiers.
>People who have seen, say, Rambo II, and they think that the Vietnamese are terrible people, that Vietnam is a terrible place, but maybe the girls are not so bad... what do you think they do when they have to make a political decision in reality?
>Films inevitably have that kind of influence, and they instill that kind of belief in the audience.

>(Speech from can
There be classical adventure in modern age? 1986)
https://youtu.be/46r1NOpkXq4

>>509111987 (OP)
No, he's just a autistic leftist Jap and seeing the Arab swordsman get shot in Indiana Jones and all the other Japs in the theater laugh made him upset.
He didn't get that the scene is funny because of the absurdity, they weren't laughing because it was an Arab but he was too autistic to understand that.
Also orcs in LotR are a metaphor for industrialized warfare they aren't specifically German.

“Americans shoot things and they blow up and the like, so as you’d expect, they make movies like that,” said Miyazaki at the time.

>“If someone is the enemy, it’s okay to kill endless numbers of them,” he continued. “Lord of the Rings is like that. If it’s the enemy, there’s killing without separation between civilians and soldiers. That falls within collateral damage. How many people are being killed in attacks in Afghanistan? The Lord of the Rings is a movie that has no problem doing that [not separating civilians from enemies, apparently]. If you read the original work, you’ll understand, but in reality, the ones who were being killed are Asians and Africans. Those who don’t know that, yet say they love fantasy are idiots.”

>“Even in the Indiana Jones movies, there is a white guy who, ‘bang,’ shoots people, right? Japanese people who go along and enjoy with that are unbelievably embarrassing. You are the ones that, ‘bang,’ get shot. Watching [those movies] without any self-awareness is unbelievable. There’s no pride, no historical perspective. You don’t know how you are viewed by a country like America.”

True fiction and battles in fiction can stem only from archetypal deitism of sort. Most fiction today is trash and forgettable because it attempts to produce myth out of fleeting experiences of the current day. This is why modern fiction never survives the test of time, and cannot become as grand as real mythology, religion and folktales.

The real struggles humanity faces are those that happen within - between the anima, animus, ego, superego, shadow, hero, wise man, etc. And any struggle we experience in our waking life is a distorted projection of those archetypes. The distortion is what causes these stories to become superficial and forgettable. Humanity has alienated itself from its natural talent to witness inner struggles from a clear vantage point. This is why everything they project onto the screen or pages today has an impression of cultural rot.

>>509112332
The White man is the Hero of this Universe and the center off it. They can't do a movie without him because no one would watch it.

Tom Cruise starring in The Last Samurai or Brad Pitt in Seven Years in Tibet. If those movies were all asians it would have bombed at the box office and everyone knows it.

>>509112332

Why is he such a bitter snob? Dose he really think people confuse fiction, like movies for reality, ot is that just people in Japan?

>>509113035
japcel rage

>>509111987 (OP)
Tolkien specifically said that nothing in any of his writings is to be taken as an allegory for anything.

>>509113035
...
And this guy is the one calling for bomb the Iran right now btw

>>509111987 (OP)
Yes, if only unconsciously by the writers.

What the old Communist faggot doesn't get, is that's a good thing.

>>509113009
Seven years in Tibet is sort of telling a true story though.

>>509112332
Miyazaki is too high IQ for the average American to understand. They hate him because he sees through the performative PR.

He became blackpilled after working with Hollywood, he's not yapping from an outsider perspective, he understands these people very well.

>>509112396
I would believe you if this wasn't a reoccurring trend in movies of that era. Count the death toll in an old western and notice how most people die are Native American or Spanish.

>>509111987 (OP)
>it that how anglos are feeling about the world surrounding em?
They are guilty of all human suffering in the last 200 years.

>>509113973
Not to mention, in anglo-Hollywood, they gave the actors playing Native Americans modern rifles. That's how PERFIDIOUS anglos are, that's how ILLEGITIMATE anglos are to anything American.

Fun fact: Spain founded America in 1493 AD, and treated Natives as Spaniards.

>>509112245
Retarded faggot, star wars is antijewish. Nazis are low iq shabbos golem, youre so fucking dumb its unreal

>>509111987 (OP)
>Creates a personification of evil, decay, and mindless violence
>Is this racism?
Is this guy stupid?
>White guy surviving alone on a desert island saves a native who's about to be killed and cannibalized and native repays by helping around the house and navigating them both back to the mainland
>"It'S wHiTe MaN's BuRdEn AlL oVeR aGaIn!!"
Man, he is stupid. Makes nice looking animations, but still stupid.

>>509111987 (OP)
>that how anglos are feeling about the world surrounding em?
Are they wrong tho?

>>509112332
Weird self righteous faggot

>>509111987 (OP)
>Is Miyazaki correct in his assertion that the evil monsters in Lord of the Rings, or Alien, etc. are just metaphors for other races?

in lotr, it's the ww1 were the mordor and orcs are german, gondor is france, and rohan the british

>>509114478
>anglos murder millions of babies
>anglos torture billions of humans
>anglos fail to destroy humanity
>anglos feel afraid of humanity
Hmmm...

>>509111987 (OP)
Tolkien viewed slavics as subhuman, but he claimed there was no analogue to his fake races in the real world, so I choose to believe him.
His hatred of "orcs" came from a hatred of industrialisation in Birmingham UK, the hub of manufacturing at the time. The shire is a thin stretch of woodland alongside a stream that was his childhood getaway from his industrial home in Moseley, Birmingham.
Moseley bog next door to that was his inspiration for the eastern bog regions.

>>509112416
>“If someone is the enemy, it’s okay to kill endless numbers of them,” he continued. “Lord of the Rings is like that. If it’s the enemy, there’s killing without separation between civilians and soldiers.
Ah yes! I remember the hordes of orc civilians! Entire orc towns wiped off the map by those evil walking trees! Millions of displaced orc women and children as their men-folk fought valiantly to evacuate as many as possible!

>>509111987 (OP)
not sure if those movies are metaphors.
but yeah anglos do feel that

>>509112332
>>509112416
>>509113035
>>509114835
Miyazaki is a little bitch

>>509114817
Continuing, the shire being burnt down after their adventure was a reference to his home being bombed during the war, with green spaces that he loved being built upon by capital leaders with no regard to conservation.

>>509113035
Because people have been blowing smoke up his arse for fifty years and he thinks his incredibly second year writing degree commie takes on things ARE ACTUALLY PROFOUND and that he'll go down in history as an intellectual. Not a purveyor of simplistic navel-gazing shit for children. He's also incredibly bitter about taking out this autism on his son.

>>509114835
No, anglokike!!!

It's the LACK of orc towns and civilians that highlights the anglo hatred for humanity. You're proving Miyazaki correct. Why were all the "bad guys you're killing" NOT in civilian spaces?????

>>509113430
Are you telling me Japan doesn't also have idiots? Everyone (except Cruz) knows there's a clear difference between destroying an enemy fortress and regime-changing an entire country. Cruz and ilk are clearly retards who don't study even contemporary geopolitics *cough* Libya Egypt Balkans Afghanistan Sub-Saharan Africa *cough*

>>509115065
So...it should have been filmed in an urban combat kind of setting? Were they supposed to be burning and pillaging orc villages?

>>509111987 (OP)
>Is Miyazaki correct in his assertion that the evil monsters in Lord of the Rings, or Alien, etc. are just metaphors for other races?
He is projecting. It is kind of the true, but Tolkien would hate people being literal and reductive about it. Like he was concerned people would think dwarves are jewish. They aren't a specific people just like Gondorians and Rohirim aren't specific people. (for example, both Rohirim and the halflings seem saxon, but are different like night and day). Rather, the races represent premises for races, so do the evil races.

The Haradim are a subverted people. They aren't inherently evil, but picked the wrong side in this one.
The orcs are dysgenic. Whereas a healthy race has a heritage of beauty, they are people with a heritage of ugliness. Whereas a healthy race lives in harmony with nature, they assert themselves onto it with technology. In protecting the memory of what your parents told you is sacred, people like these will always be your foes.

He's totally right on Robinson Crusoe though, shit's colonialist as fuck.

yes, we are orcs, ukrainian elves

>>509115480
Where are you getting this colonialism shtick? Yeah, he made a hut and had a goat farm, but setting up shelter and food is basic survival tactics. And it's not like he was going to the mainland and kidnapping natives for slave labor. He saved a native who was part of a losing faction in a war between natives and about to be executed and the native paid him back for saving his life. I can quote the book right here and now.

>>509112332
regarding your example of Friday

Friday realizes that his life in the society of cannibals was very primitive and insignificant. And he does not mind being a servant of the higher intelligence, and the higher intelligence does not treat him like an animal, thereby Friday expands his horizons and ascends to the level of the higher intelligence.

Later, Friday and Robinson civilize the cannibal society and the Island becomes an acceptable place to live and a place where victims of future shipwrecks can receive help.

But these are fantasies. Our Cruso story is a thriller.

>>509115566
no we are

>>509115989
No, you are romals, along with the romanians, you are the heirs of the Roman Empire.

>>509115770
Doesn't he literally introduce Friday as a slave when he gets back to civilization? The whole thing is certainly framed as epic hypercompetent white man being super generous to the nigger by civilizing him.
There's a lot to be said about how various aborigines caused much of their own ruin throughout history, but the general contempt for the natives and a sense of his superiority permeates the book.

>>509116102
no

>>509111987 (OP)

Back when Lord of the Rings was written, most of the world was infact inhabited by actual savages.
Japan was no different than Britain in this aspect. They had an empire and were trying to conquer the barbarian nations that were full of savagery. Britain was just that much better at it than Japan. But the Japanese world view was no different than Britains.

>>509112416
>>509112332

The old coot lost his marbles.

>>509111987 (OP)
>Lord of the Rings
isn't it widely known that tolkien had the orcs humans that worked for mordor as stand-ins for eastern plebs and their despots?
>feeling about the world
pretty much. they despise the idea of not being free to feast on atomized, mongrelized plebs as much as possible.

>>509116155
No. The only mention of Friday when he gets back to civilization is, "With this view I took shipping for Lisbon, where I arriv'd in April following; my man Friday accompanying me very honestly in all these ramblings, and proving a most faithful servant upon all occasions." After that, it's just a bunch of bookkeeping and setting up wills and estates and the like.
Yeah, he's hypercompetent, but what action adventure thriller features a dimwit protag?
Also, I do remember now that he was a co-owner of several Brazilian plantations that made use of slave labor, so I guess it technically has colonialism, but it's not like he was out making slaves. He was buying them for working on a farm.