Poland to reintroduce draft using digital Id, "Poles must be ready to make sacrifices" - /pol/ (#509141894) [Archived: 699 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: y7GPZ+/+Poland
6/30/2025, 7:35:37 PM No.509141894
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Recently there was a large multiparty conference on Poland where representatives from all political parties debated reintroducing military draft for all Polish citizens starting from age of 19. The basis for this discussion was a report by Sobieski Institute led by polish experts, politicians and former Ukrainian vice Prime Minister Oleksandr Kubrakow, as well as former Ukrainian minister of defense Ołeksij Reznikow.
The authors of the report state that reintroduction of military draft will fight "extreme individualism" present among Poles and that Polish people need to accept "making sacrifices".
The draft is to be enforced by AI tools screening candidates and by notification by digital ID system called mObywatel.

https://wschodniaflanka.pl/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/SLUZBA_E_BOOK.pdf
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Anonymous ID: 0g3xRuV3United States
6/30/2025, 7:38:50 PM No.509142163
>>509141894 (OP)
>The authors of the report state that reintroduction of military draft will fight "extreme individualism" present among Poles and that Polish people need to accept "making sacrifices".
Oh no, that sucks!
Enjoy the battlefields of Russia, I guess.
Anonymous ID: y7GPZ+/+Poland
6/30/2025, 7:38:56 PM No.509142170
>>509141894 (OP)
>>Regardless of the form of organizational solutions adopted, the foundation of the new system should be a single point of contact for citizens (one stop shop) in matters related to the service, linked to the mObywatel application. Unification of the database of people involved in the service and a common recruitment standard will allow ministries to maintain a policy tailored to their own needs and resources, while at the same time building situational awareness at the central level of state management in the field of personnel for state security purposes.
Anonymous ID: BI2h1iWEUnited States
6/30/2025, 7:39:55 PM No.509142260
>>509141894 (OP)
So those who never got a digital ID are exempt from the draft?
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Anonymous ID: i5i7kCM5Canada
6/30/2025, 7:43:46 PM No.509142560
>>509141894 (OP)
Isn't it hilarious how these faggots called us "conspiracy theorists" when they are pushing for the very thing that we warned that they would try to do?

They created a solution to a non-existent problem, and now they are trying to create problems for their "solution" in any way possible. Somehow it only impacts white countries with white people specifically.
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Anonymous ID: y7GPZ+/+Poland
6/30/2025, 7:46:25 PM No.509142783
>>509142260
The implication is that digitalID mObywatel will be compulsory.
At the momen if you go to any Polish institution(unemployment office, hospital, tax office) they try to push you into making an mObywatel account, saying how convenient and easy to use it is.
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Anonymous ID: I19BNEwhBosnia and Herzegovina
6/30/2025, 7:46:46 PM No.509142806
>>509142560
Every conspiracy from pol turned out to be the truth so was the digital id
nothing new under the Sun (for me at least) yet normoids won't get it even when they get shelled somewhere in the eastern front, and frankly I don't know what's worse, such is life
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Anonymous ID: y7GPZ+/+Poland
6/30/2025, 7:47:45 PM No.509142891
>>509142560
Here's what the report says about immigrants in Poland
>It is also important to remember that foreigners settling in our country, 85% of whom are Ukrainians and Belarusians, who are culturally close to us, also have children. It is highly probable that a significant number of them will create an increasingly strong bond with the country they live in, at the level of social, cultural or economic relations. A similar phenomenon is observed all over the world – children of immigrants in particular quickly assimilate in the country to which their parents came. This is an additional resource that is worth considering when creating reserves for crisis situations. The new model of public service should be based on the assumption that the civic community also includes joint responsibility for building common security, not just prosperity.
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Anonymous ID: BI2h1iWEUnited States
6/30/2025, 7:51:16 PM No.509143161
>>509142783
Just explain to them that you don't have a smartphone, surely Poland will not just destroy the lives of anyone who happens to lose their phone, no? I don't see how it is feasible, without impoverishing large parts of your country, to make a digital id mandatory.
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Anonymous ID: y7GPZ+/+Poland
6/30/2025, 7:51:30 PM No.509143180
>>509142260
Here is what the report states

>A central register of citizens undergoing qualification will be created, which will be created, updated and managed by the ministry responsible for digitalization. Sharing data on people undergoing qualification is a key condition for the success of the proposed reform, which is why the ministry's information management systems must be subordinated to it. The database containing citizens' data should include five previous age groups. As a result, within 10 years a database of approx. 4-5 million citizens aged 19-35, who may be engaged by the state in a situation of crisis or war, should be created. Modern IT solutions will allow for the creation of a fast path of communication with citizens, via applications, e-mail or text message communication, thanks to which the time associated with calling up for training, for service or passing on messages to citizens will be shortened
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Anonymous ID: BI2h1iWEUnited States
6/30/2025, 7:52:14 PM No.509143235
>>509143180
>A central register of citizens undergoing qualification will be created
This explains it to me, a digital id will be created *for you*, not *by you*. Thank you anon.
Anonymous ID: 7fT40jjbUnited States
6/30/2025, 7:53:16 PM No.509143316
>>509141894 (OP)
so will polish women need to accept "making sacrifices" and start shitting out kids and equitably distributing sex to men? Because that's the female corollary to male conscription
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Anonymous ID: RlObQrpC
6/30/2025, 7:53:17 PM No.509143319
>>509141894 (OP)
To the last Jewkrainian goyim
For Khazaria
For NATO
Anonymous ID: y7GPZ+/+Poland
6/30/2025, 7:53:35 PM No.509143341
>>509143161
>Just explain to them that you don't have a smartphone, surely Poland will not just destroy the lives of anyone who happens to lose their phone, no?

In EU you need a smartphone to access your bank account because it requires 2FA, same with social account or processing any correspondence from state institutions.
Same happened during COVID, without a smartphone you weren't allowed to travel outstanding of Poland
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Anonymous ID: i5i7kCM5Canada
6/30/2025, 7:53:43 PM No.509143360
>>509142806
Crazy how we get it every single time, and they whine about it to the public like school boys that got caught doing drugs (Macron/Starmer for instance).

>>509142891
It's the same propaganda they used when they started mass migration into Canada to destroy the culture.

Today it will be:
>LE GDP and strong resource of foreigners

Tomorrow it will be:
>If you don't allow infinity poojeets in then you're racist.

In the future it will be:
>These Indians are the real Poles and Polish people never existed.
Anonymous ID: UoUTVoQEUnited States
6/30/2025, 7:53:56 PM No.509143373
Total Pole death

Poland is Germanic land
Anonymous ID: O/ixbaOYItaly
6/30/2025, 7:54:29 PM No.509143424
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They have european doors, just have your girlfriend/mother(same thing) buy you food while you play videogames
Cops cant breach european doors.
Anonymous ID: BI2h1iWEUnited States
6/30/2025, 7:54:57 PM No.509143550
>>509143341
Europe sounds like a dystopian shithole, at least America hasn't gotten that bad yet.
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Anonymous ID: y7GPZ+/+Poland
6/30/2025, 7:58:00 PM No.509143792
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>>509143316
>>>Today, military qualification covers only young men aged 19 and selected women.It is conducted by the District and Voivodeship Medical Boards. The qualification will be extended to all women turning 19, expanded to include an interview related to preferences and already acquired qualifications. It will be accompanied by computerization of the system (architecture based on supplementing data, including
data on mobilization allocation within the mObywatel application). During the qualification, as before, each person will be registered and given a health category, which will determine what type of service for the state they can perform, as well as their special readiness to undertake a specific service indicated by them. It is crucial that the data obtained can be easily used by the state.
Anonymous ID: y7GPZ+/+Poland
6/30/2025, 8:00:06 PM No.509143963
>>509143550
Also this draft idea is supported by both nationalist Konfederacja opposition party and leftist Razem party that is part of Polish government.

>Wicemarszałek Sejmu Krzysztof Bosak (Konfederacja) uważa, że koncepcja ta oparta jest na podejściu systemowym i propaństwowym. – Kluczem jest tworzenie bazy danych i kierowanie osób do przeszkolenia. Powinni się tym zajmować pasjonaci w ramach centrów kompetencyjno-szkoleniowych – mówi.
Z kolei posłanka Paulina Matysiak z partii Razem wskazuje, że jednym z wyzwań jest skuteczne zachęcenie młodych ludzi do zgłaszania się do służby.
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Anonymous ID: BI2h1iWEUnited States
6/30/2025, 8:02:47 PM No.509144175
>>509143963
>Also this draft idea is supported by both nationalist Konfederacja opposition party and leftist Razem party that is part of Polish government.
If European countries are anything like America, the biparty setup is a sham and you are essentially ruled by a uniparty that pretends to be divided.
Anonymous ID: ME0EzOnnCanada
6/30/2025, 8:04:04 PM No.509144279
>>509141894 (OP)
Seems reasonable considering Russia wants to reconstitute the Warsaw pact. You either fight or lose your country.

Poland should also probably look into acquiring nuclear weapons.
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Anonymous ID: +7BjuG5PUnited States
6/30/2025, 8:08:53 PM No.509144604
Is PiS against this?
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Anonymous ID: y7GPZ+/+Poland
6/30/2025, 8:13:39 PM No.509144999
>>509144604
>Is PiS against this?

>The concept is being developed by the Sobieski Institute and the Eastern Flank Institute, a non-governmental organisation registered in Brussels, whose founders include politicians associated with previous governments: Jadwiga Emilewicz and PiS MEP Michał Dworczyk, as well as Ukrainian politicians – Oleksandr Kubrakov, former deputy prime minister of Ukraine, and Oleksiy Reznikov, former defence minister of that country.


From article "draft will return one way or another"

https://www.rp.pl/spoleczenstwo/art42608111-powszechna-sluzba-dla-panstwa-czy-beda-obowiazkowe-szkolenia-dla-mlodych
Anonymous ID: y7GPZ+/+Poland
6/30/2025, 8:14:59 PM No.509145098
>>509144279
>Seems reasonable
Fuck off death cultist, draft=slavery for globohomo death cult
Anonymous ID: BI2h1iWEUnited States
6/30/2025, 8:18:18 PM No.509145350
>>509144279
It is highly doubtful either Russia goes to war against Europe or Europe goes to war against Russia due to the threat of nuclear war. This is clearly an authoritarian measure to force mandatory military training on the most dangerous demographic, young men, so as to break their spirit and make them obedient. This is one of the reasons everything went to shit after the world wars, because people who would've been rebellious in the past were broken in by the well oiled machine that is the modern military apparatus, none of the shit they tried in the 1960s would've flown in the 1900s.
Anonymous ID: mmzbdM4p
6/30/2025, 8:18:22 PM No.509145353
>>509141894 (OP)
TZD
Total
Zoomer
Draft!
Anonymous ID: XL7zoR6qUkraine
6/30/2025, 8:19:53 PM No.509145480
>>509141894 (OP)
Remember, you supported this.
Anonymous ID: XL7zoR6qUkraine
6/30/2025, 8:20:34 PM No.509145554
>>509141894 (OP)
>Ołeksij Reznikow.
He's a kike btw.
Anonymous ID: PASRXqgfUnited Kingdom
6/30/2025, 8:21:03 PM No.509145593
>>509141894 (OP)
Covid was a test run.
Anonymous ID: 0As/BqNQUnited States
6/30/2025, 8:21:11 PM No.509145602
White people, why are you ok with going extinct? Doesnt that make you feel bad?
Anonymous ID: XL7zoR6qUkraine
6/30/2025, 8:24:45 PM No.509145882
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>>509143316
Nah, the borders will be open for women and they'll run away, creating demographic catastrophe among natives ripe for total replacement
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Anonymous ID: hK5+PVOsBelarus
6/30/2025, 8:30:20 PM No.509146350
If only you could see the grin on my face right now, polaks. If only.
Anonymous ID: fZpJbht9Hungary
6/30/2025, 8:37:05 PM No.509146937
>>509145882
This. It already happened for ukraine. The most fertile and desirable 18-30 population has already left. Why on earth they would struggle being wagies in bombed out shitholes, when they could easily just find a beta provider and enjoy german middle class life while not having to work AND get neetbux AND refugeebux AND special aid for ukranians on top of it. Even according the roughest maths you earn fifty(!) times as much as the ukranian minimum wage, being a refugee neet in germoney. I cannot even blame them on a personal level, you'd have to be absolutely retarded as a roastie to not take this deal.

>>509141894 (OP)
I'm going to laugh so much when the polacks are the next mystery meat in the grinder. We have been telling you since 2022 that it WILL happen.
Anonymous ID: +1lCHNB/Russian Federation
6/30/2025, 8:37:40 PM No.509146984
>>509142783
>>509142260
Even if it's "optional" right now, it will be mandatory by law eventually and it will be coerced onto citizens through various stages.

That's how it was in Russia with gosuslugi, it started as a convenient web service for anything goverment related (like fast tracked doctor appointments) then it became the only way and eventually you are forced to use gosuslugi if you want to do anything, also at first notifications we're not legally binding but year or two ago just being sent a notification amounted to have received, read and accepted it.
Now it's effectively your digital ID, you don't need your physical passport, drivers license or insurance, everything is in gosuslugi took like a decade in Russia, it was very slow process.

Ukraine has the same thing but it was pushed onto them with war in like a year or two
Anonymous ID: R0ypSm3FPoland
6/30/2025, 8:40:20 PM No.509147227
>>509141894 (OP)
Good thing I don't have citizenship here. If this is the case, I might not bother trying to apply.
Anonymous ID: KtsVtYNcIreland
6/30/2025, 8:46:09 PM No.509147703
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>>509141894 (OP)
Warliberalism is insatiable. They must have blood for the blood throne.
Anonymous ID: Ft27tMfWGermany
6/30/2025, 8:50:06 PM No.509148021
>Sacrifices
>"Rome cannot coexist with Jerusalem"
>"Edom"
Sacrifice to transfer all the sins onto the goyim cattle (Amalek)