Thread 509154447

>>509154447 (OP)
niggers gonna nig

>>509154447 (OP)
Is that the nigger's tongue or lower lip?

>>509154447 (OP)
I wonder if juror 25 is a nigger

>>509154540
Pablo Picasso, courtroom artist

>>509154540
The courtroom artist has been having fun

Juror 25 is centre shot, and he's pissed off...

>>509154447 (OP)
So what were the instructions?

>>509154447 (OP)
Why do Americans still use court sketches? Is it just some quaint thing you don't want to get rid of?

>>509154915
They’re fun

>>509154447 (OP)
LET. DIDDY. WALK. FREE.

AMERICA DESERVES TO BE TERRORIZED BY HIM

>>509154901
No jury nullification.

>>509154915
Some autistic rule about not allowing cameras in certain courts

>>509154447 (OP)
Sorry can you explain that for me?
Im not ana american and i thought the jury decides independantly whether one is guilty or not and then according to that the judge gives the sentence, right?
So the judge doesnt have any orders to give to the jury he is just a referee for the lawyer's theatralics.
>t. American movie watcher

>>509154809
Why are no cameras allowed but drawing and even attending is??
Im not complaining thats pretty based, but i dont get why

>>509155061
Jury instructions is when the Judge explains the law and how to apply it to the facts and circumstances in the case.

>>509155061
The judge gives instructions on things like what the law says, testimony or evidence to disclude if it was struck for some reason, things like that

>>509154447 (OP)
The Jury system is no good in a dumbed down society. Just look at the retarded niggers who were on the Karen Read jury.

>>509155034
>fails to explain anything
>reee autism
You will never be human, pathetic chud loser

https://youtu.be/3ZAAGNpRiAQ?si=qE2ubTmmWDeIPXyM

Btw have you seen this interview with diddy's denfce lawyer.
Holy shit man, that guy literally keeps going on niggerly like
>muh dick
If theres a single nigger on that jury the top rapemonkey is walking free.

Niggers should be free imho, free to live like god intended, swinging around the jungle ttrees and fucking one another willy nilly, thats why they rape so much, its their natural urge

>>509154636
51yo Hispanic male with a PhD in biology

>>509155180
if cameras were in every court room the bullshit that goes on in courts would get too much air time and noticing would be off the charts

>>509155180
Some trials are televised and others aren't, it is up to the judge. The cameras can be a distraction in the courtroom.

>>509155180
nyc rules

>>509155034
All the more reason to use AI now

>>509154447 (OP)
I hope he walks and continues to buckbreak niggas

>>509154447 (OP)
Diddy will be freed.

>>509155061
If the judge thinks the jury is retarded he can override their verdict.

>>509154447 (OP)
DAS RITE MY BOY AIN DUN SHEEEEIT

>>509155225
>>509155245
Ah thanks alot.
So what does this mean about juror no. 25? Did the other jurors tattle on him saying
>this nigger is too retarded to get it
Or what?

>>509155180
Things a federal case and cameras aren’t generally aloud in federal proceedings. You can watch in person, there is an official transcript you can read, and there are these sketches. It’s just to keep the court from becoming a circus.

>>509155061
During charging, the judge tells the jury how to apply the law. This includes previous case precedent. For example, the judge told them the quantity if drugs that were trafficked does not apply. Any amount is trafficking across state lines. Diddys lawyer was making fun of the small amount of drugs seized during closing

>>509155225
>Jury instructions is when the Judge explains the law and how to apply it to the facts and circumstances in the case.

But they don't have to follow the judge's instruction.
Jury nullification exists. Even if they've got him dead to rights the jury can chose to let him go.

>>509155702
Na, they have to follow instructions. It 11 on 1 right now. The judge could remove the juror for not following instructions, but that would open up an easy appeal for diddy

>>509155685
Probably juror 25 said something along the lines of ignoring the law and doing what he wanted

Ayyy yo umm objection miss ladybitch.... umm would it be fair to say, no, would it please the court, that you just admit these muthafuckin crackers is FRAMING my nigga Diddy ova here? Dis shit ain't right!

>>509155829
They have alternate jurors for just this reason

>>509155702
As I understand it, they can do that but the judge can also fuck about with the jury's composition. So you basically need an entire jury that agrees to nullify and doesn't tattle on each other.

>>509155698
Niggerboy combes lawyer is fucking fucked up, no shit
Look at this interview
>>509155415

>>509154636
>I wonder if juror 25 is a nigger
Report said #25 is a "scientist" means educated, so I doubt person is black. My guess is #25 is voting guilty and others want to aquit.

>>509154447 (OP)
>How would you feel if you listened to the judge's instructions?
>.... But...

>>509155702
>nullification
That’s something they would have to all agree on. Otherwise what we’re seeing would happen and the troublemaker would be kicked off the jury.

>>509155926
Yes. I know. Diddy probably paid off juror 25. Bitcoin offshore

>>509155034
>>509155180
>>509155348
One reason is so photographers can’t take a million pictures and then cherry pick the ones of the defendant taken at just the right moment which make them look a certain way (i.e. angry, gloating, despondent)

Which is of course retarded because courtroom artists can draw the defendant however they want

>>509155180
Old rule that has stuck around for basically no reason.

>>509154447 (OP)
Why do these courtroom sketch artist draw like 10th graders?
Oh wait, so sophisticated.

>>509156047
just an idea - what's happening to all that lube now anyway?

>>509155685
It sounds like the juror is just being outright belligerent, like wanting to intentionally fuck up the decision through blatant disregard for the law.

>>509154447 (OP)
civil law chad here. I thought the entire point of common law trials was that the jury can just make up the law on the spot, and it only takes one guy to change it forever. so what gives?

>>509155061
>Sorry can you explain that for me?
Judge decides which evidence jury can hear/see, give jury instructions on how to determine if person is guilty based on evidence. In US smart people can use 'jury nullifcation' to find someone innocent regardless of evidence if they think the crime or sentence is unjust.

>>509156125
They’re in a hurry and do like 100 sketches a day

>>509155918
Remember when that one nigger was bashing an atm with a fireaxe and then his nigger friends and him made a video of themselves
>but lemme axe you why does dis lil boy FEEL like he NEEEDS to crack open the atm

Lmao also show flag, jude

>>509154447 (OP)
>a portent of things to come
Nobody is going to honor the civilization systems you put in place, once you become a minority.

>>509156176
>jury can just make up the law on the spot
They can if they keep their mouth shut and just do it.

>>509156148
Donated to a local factory for their heavy machinery. They’re still getting used to the scent.

>>509156125
You just never saw a good one

>>509156176
It's criminal proceeding with charges brought by the state.

>>509154447 (OP)
He is in a jewish prison which is eons better than the average goy life.

>>509154447 (OP)
Jury nullification?

>>509155225
The judge doesn't dictate how the jury has to decide. It's not the judges decision. It's the jury decision. They don't have to follow any directions from the judge and any attempt to coerce any of them to is jury intimidation.

Jury instruction need to be outlawed. Judges cannot be trusted otherwise people wouldn't be selection jury trial. Jury trial means jury members decision, not a judge telling them what to decide.

Diddy dindu nuffin, ya hurd? Dis sum rayciss ass shi’, nukka.

>>509155180
It's not based. Some judges (and all federal courts) don't want the scrutiny that comes with being filmed so they claim that being open for the public to attend is public enough to satisfy the constitutional requirements and spirit of the law be damned, and since they're the judges, that's the interpretation of the law we have.

>>509156176
>civil law chad here
Redditor here
Ftfy dumbfaggot, now fucking go back you stupid ass holocaust approver.
>inb4 his next post is
As a holocaust denier

Lmao i hate you redditfags so much
Kill yourself

I will never say guilty in any jury I'm forced to go to. Fuck the system, cops are all pigs.

>>509156178
I dont read memeflag posts.
Die in a fire, jude

>>509155348
i can hear the gagged and handcuffed child in the corner's muffled screaming in this image

>>509156176
If the jury all agrees they can ignore the law and acquit. Jury verdicts don't set precedents though because juries decide matters of fact (i.e., what happened). Precedents come from rulings by judges on matters of law (i.e., how to interpret what the law says).

>>509156009
>Pic
It was really amusing when a news dude called Samuel Jackson Lawrence Fishborne.
>YOU ALL THINK WE ALL LOOK ALIKE!
>YOU ALL THINK WE ALL LOOK ALIKE!
>YOU ALL THINK WE ALL LOOK ALIKE!!!
Nope. We just don't give a shit.

>>509154901
You must acquit all niggers since we worship them as american gods.

>>509156721
There is a slight resemblence
Ignoring the skin tone

>>509156331
that's not an answer, charges are brought by the state here, too. What forces someone sitting on a jury to even acknowledge, let alone comply with a judge's instructions? Was juror #25 just too retarded to keep his mouth shut before making it a mistrial?
>>509156452
Häng dich auf Neger, wen interessiert der Scheiß heute noch?

>>509157135
>What forces someone sitting on a jury to even acknowledge, let alone comply with a judge's instructions? Was juror #25 just too retarded to keep his mouth shut before making it a mistrial?
To answer your first question, technically nothing, to answer your second question, yes

Damn is that the same dude that was at junior’s trial? mad lad.

>>509157135
>Was juror #25 just too retarded to keep his mouth shut before making it a mistrial?
That or he tried to persuade the other jurors to nullify and they weren't having it. A mistrial can be retried, but an acquittal is permanent.

>devil horns
Fucking lmao

>>509154915
State courts will allow video or even Zoom hearings in some cases. This is Federal court, which has never allowed video, because Federal judges have a stick up their ass and hate transparency. However, the current Supreme Court does allow audio recordings of oral arguments now.

>>509154447 (OP)
>>509155061
most likely the juror is using evidence not used in court that he saw on social media or something and formed his own opinion because he doesn't like Diddy and wants him found guilty.

>>509157532
hes just stuck in a what if you didnt eat breakfast loop but worse because hes got a phoney phd so he thinks hes too smart to not eat breakfast

>>509157872
No, it's 11 on 1 for guilty. Juror 25 isnt following instructions on the law.

Yo honor des niggaz all leye'ing 4 paper Diddy dindu muffin he was a hero to da black community. ONLY EVIL WHITE BITCHES BE SAYIN DIDDY RAPED EM CUZ THEY WANT MO PAPER. FUCK THESE NIGGAS AND FUCK YOU NIGGUH STOP THROWING SHIT OUT COURT RAYCEST CRACKER.

OH LAWDY OBAMA WHY WONT YOU PARDEN DIDDY HOW CAN YOU LET THIS HAPPEN
WE FIND DIS NIGGA NOT GUILTY WE DONT CARE WUT ANYONEZ BEE SAYIN DIDDY AINT GUILTY CAUZE DIDDY BE A BLACK HERO. WE DEMAND DES WHITE BITCHES BE THROWN IN JAIL $ LEYEING

DONT YOU DARE SAY HUNG JURY NIGGAH WE WILL HANG YOU IF YOU DONT HAVE AN ALL BLACK JURY FOR DIS CASE YALL RAYCEST NIGGUHS GONNA DIE WE GONNA GO BLM 2.0 HELL NAH LA RIOTS 2.0 ON ALL YOUR NIGGAS CITIES ASS WE GONNA GRAB WHITE PEEPULL OUTTA CARS AND KILL DEM

JUSTICE 4 DIDDY NOT GUILTY NIGGAS IS ALWAYS NOT GUILTY U FUCKING RAYCEST PECKERWOOD NOT GUILTY NIGGUH RIOT RIOT RIOT BURN DOWN THE HOOD LETS GO KILL SOME KOREANS&ASIANS BUT FUCK DEM MEXICAN HOODS THOSE NIGGAS BE BLOOD THIRST AND LYNCH POOR YOUNG NIGGAS JUST FO ROBING A MEXICAN CORNER STORE. SO WUT IF A YOUNG NIGGA HITS SOME OLD MEXICAN LADY OR SHOOTS HER FOR 17$. YALL NIGGAS EVIL N RAYCEST TO BE LYNCHING NIGGAS LIKE FO REAL LYNCHING NIGGAS ON THE STREET OFF LIGHTPOLES WUTS WRONG WITH ROBBIN CORNER STORES N HITTING OLD LADIES FOR LESS THAN 50$ BITCH IS OLD SO WHAT IF SHE GETS SHOT AND DIES NIGGUH

FREE DIDDY NOT GUILTY FUCK YOUZ JUDGE PUNK ASSNIGGA WE GONNA BURN YO HOUSE DOWN TRUMP LOVING CRACKA

>>509157872
i havent been following the trial but he is obviously very guilty or they wouldnt have charged him because its going to end up costing half a billion dollars

>>509156125
Settle down Corrado...

>>509158009
how do you know? The prosecution has done a terrible job and it's likely he will walk so it's obvious the jury will find him not guilty except for the one guy not wanting to compromise.

>>509155692
>aloud

>>509156721
That KTLA reporter was/is a huge moron.
Frank Buckley I think was the name.
Tbf Jackson does seem to have it out for him, he dared him to say nigger during an interview for Django.

>>509158106
>i havent been following the trial
>but he is obviously very guilty
fucking kek

>>509155348
He did explain it

>>509156378
>judges have never tossed a verdict that doesn’t follow the law
Jury instructions are literally law. They are to instruct the jury what they need to base their decision on. You are simply wrong.

>>509157135
>Neger
Lmao, traust dich nichtmal mich ein
DRECKIGES UNTERMENSCHEN NIGGERSCHWEIN zu nenne du dummer hurensohn
Dann schreib halt einfach nicht wie so eine dumme reddit schwuchtel du arschloch

Honestly I'm more on the side of diddy. I think this is bullshit. They turn it into a media circus suggesting diddy did all these terrible things... but then he's charged with setting kid cudi's car on fire? ok... ok... fucking hoes? ok.. ok.

Where's the bieber stuff? Crimes against children? Not just rappers paying whores to be whores? Diddy paying dudes to fuck his wife and watching isn't my concern. Likewise, I think R Kelly should be free.

R Kelly has already fallen father than most would fall. He's served his times. He shouldn't die in prison for loving pussy.

>>509158178
What the fuck are you talking about? For Rico you need 2 instances of using an enterprise to commit crimes. They literally have evidence and 1st hand testimony for bribery. As well as violation of the Mann act and using employees to traffic drugs across state lines. Even without the sex trafficking, hes still going to jail for rico. And they're gonna seize all his assets.

>>509154447 (OP)
The Nigger tribe before anything else.

>>509158211
Of course he did.
The reporter did seem kind of dumb, but I couldn't possibly care less about the mistake.

>>509157135
1. Kys reddit
2. Kys juraschwuchtel, do something worthwhile with your life
3. Kys in general for being a faggot

>>509156467
I will say guilty if it's a nigger or jew because they all are.

>>509155180
there is a legitimate reason:
video evidence can be thrown out as evidence easily vs written
written and witnesses are much more legally grounded

>>509158342
yeah seems like all they proved was that Diddy was an awful person who likes to get freaky, but he didn't really do anything blatantly illegal like the media was hyping up.

>>509154915
Our law enforcement agencies and court systems don't allow outside recording equipment because they want the exclusive right to fudge their own records.

>>509156467
I gather you've been jammed through the court system. No judgement.

>>509158391
You're the one saying it's 11-1 for a guilty verdict and I'm asking how do you know? It would be impossible for you to know that unless you infact are on the jury and breaking the law leaking information.

>>509158498
Bribery drug trafficking arson kidnapping. What about those?

>>509158596
Because it was about not following instruction. The jury just sent another note to the judge. I will let you know what it says

>>509158234
hes martha stewart guilty. cant get this far if he didnt do it.

>>509158467
Are you talking a out the videos of the crime being shown in court as evidence when i was talking about the video cameras not being allowed to televise a public trial?

Juror no. 25, is this you?

>>509158106
>he is obviously very guilty
why the fuck wait two decades. He's a nigger a rap nigger why the fuck did this not happen by 2010. Once again he's a nigger this was before the hyper insane nigger worship of the 2010's. All those 90's+ rap niggers did this shit get millions blow it all never pay taxes lose everything. Degrade white women for teh evilulz all those women had AIDS and were banned from porn or stupid fans or just dumbasses going to a nigger party. Poof all of a sudden niggers are making them eat shit&piss fuck pitbulls getting gangraped by niggers on the kitchen table. Because they're retarded whores who are from LA in porn and do anything for money.

Like none of those niggers paid taxes why didnt they just place charges send the nigger to jail for life. Take everything they own plus their music rights sell it to jews so they fully own it.

Why wait two decades and why is a nigger even being targeted in the metoo shit. Did he pull an MJ and bite the hand that feeds in the 2010's or someshit? like dude was a hazbeen by 2008 those niggers only last like 2-6 years very rarely are they able to last longer.

What with ending up in jail for murder/fights/shootings/drugs/taxes/unpaid loans&credit

>>509158461
Based beyond belief

>>509154447 (OP)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sean-diddy-combs-trial-recap-combs-accuser-jane-testifies-the-music-mogul-is-still-paying-her-rent-213259611.html
>Jane testified that in March 2023, she and Combs entered into a two-year “love contract” in which Combs agreed that he would pay her a $10,000 per month allowance, which she spent on rent for a new home. She confirmed during Friday’s testimony that Combs is still paying her rent.

wtf is this shit, meanwhile Weinstein and Epstein cases were just dismissed and forgotten about. Is this just a modern day public lynching?

>“It’s your birthday and let’s have fun,” she said Combs told her. Jane described it as a “gulp moment” because she wasn’t expecting it, but “just accepted it” as she didn’t want Combs to be unhappy with her.

So she signed a consent contract, was given $10,000 a month even after she made accusations, and even consented beforehand to every night?

The incels were right.

>>509158620
>Arson
I admit I haven't paid close attention, but I guess I missed that part of the story.

I hope they find him not guilty. he did some bad stuff but it is absurd to charge someone with racketeering for this level of crime. the whole case is basically a domestic violence civil case that got out of control. when they realized he would have employees help clean up his sex parties, they decided to go for racketeering charges. the prosecution also went for the Mann Act charge, which is something they would have charged someone like Epstein with, had he lived.

>>509158620
Assault on camera

>>509154915
agree, needs to switch to AI with humorous and educational "enhancements" like "thought cloud" of what everyone knows everyone else is thinking, and AI recreations of crimes, sex acts, people as children, etc.

You could do a 5 min LMAO wrap up for cable news of a day's worth of boring actual court, and not miss anything that matters and include LOTS of actual info, including various Legal Precedents and WTF the lawyers in the trial are fucking up.

>>509158691
This is diddys defender, kek.

What did the note say?

>>509158903
Give me a few minutes

>>509154915
please let us have this at least don't take this from our culture as well it hurts nobody and is nice

>>509155180
it's one of the few stable jobs we have left just let us have this one thing
t. artfag

>>509158772
I mean r Kelly was pissing on minors and even became a dave chapel skit

>>509155501
Try running a sketch with the prompt, "make this look realistic."

>>509158772
The civil suits filed in federal court against him made the problem too big to ignore and people willing to testify finally came forward.

>>509154447 (OP)
>Juror 25
Add it to the list.

>>509155480
so in other words, a fully indoctrinated communist that rode decades of gibsmedats at my expense after sneaking into my country and being/dropping an anchor baby

>>509155692
> It’s just to keep the court from becoming a circus.
Aren't modern courtrooms already a circus?

>>509156099
Isn't the main reason so that people don't film the jury?

anyone who thinks he'll be convicted is retarded

>>509158903
There are actually 2 letters from the jury

>>509159048
AND A WHOLE FUCKING BOONDOCKS EPISODE where the chick said she loved it because he was R kelly and she was the one to upload the video showing it to all her friends cuz its R Kelly

>>509159292
Nignog rapper exceptionalism has ended with SoundCloud and mumble rap nigs.

>>509154540
Yes.

>>509154540
Prehensile lower lip. For grabbing termites off of a stick.

>>509159222
basically yes, that's English (anglo) common law. an "adversarial judicial system" as its called

the judge is a referee for the clown show, who, by today's standards, is welcome to meddle in and game the system to help one side win. total fuckin joke.

>>509159140
>willing to testify finally came forward
After two whole decades with like what no photo or video evidence clearly. Fucking dairy can be faked old ass screen shots too its like cellphone data could be pulled or fuck most likely anything sent/said online.

This shit makes no sense like there is literal contracts and getting paid thousands of dollars a month to be a whore. Was anything even leaked during the fappening.

>>509154447 (OP)
Is this real trial? Will he be going to prison if guilty and how long?

>>509159048
>Dave Chappelle skit
I think it was 3 skits

>>509155415
This one's funny

>>509154915
It's an anachronism, but it's also a good historical record that would be impossible to fake because it's handmade and bears the exact marks and style of the artist. So it stands as proof that the trial took place. And it keeps public interest in those court rooms where cameras are not allowed.

>>509158903
The 1st letter was a question. The 2nd was to inform the judge they were stopping deliberation for the day. So nothing important

>>509159000
>>509159023
Are you a brit living in the us or an american living in the uk?

Anyways, ok i am granting your wish and i will not take it away from you. I will not change any laws in america (for now) you are very welcome

>>509159636
3rd one was something about lieking mudkips

>>509158772
they needed time to collect give immunity to the chosen few

>>509154915
Meme fuel. Blessed are the OC makers.

>>509155480
He doesnt know what a woman is.
He doesnt know what a guilt is.

That tracks

>>509159240
This makes the most sense of all the explanations ive heard so far

>>509155180
america is horribly corrupt, and don't want video evidence of it.

>>509156125
The models are in motion so pastel and conte crayon is the preferred medium, usually the sketches are done quickly as color laid in almost immediately, the background kept simple and emphasis on faces and clothing. It's like a field sketch, not a finished piece.

>>509154901
>You must read the charges

>>509154809
>shieeeeeeeet mayne

>>509156174
I've had this. This one fat spinster bitch wanted to say that the guy was guilty of murder, when none of the other jurors agreed. But she held up the jury for like two days just being obtuse about it.

In retrospect, I think she was just trying to extend the total trial length to 10 days so we'd all get paid (the rules were that you don't get any money unless the trial lasts 10 days minimum, at which point you get $100 per day that the trial lasted). Thank you, bitchy cunt lady.

>>509156378
>The judge doesn't dictate how the jury has to decide. It's not the judges decision. It's the jury decision.
Categorically wrong
It's why often during a trial the judge will interject and tell the jury to "Disregard statement/evidence that was just presented" or immediately tell the jury to leave the room if certain issues have to be discussed.
They tell the jury all the time what to deem as credible information to base their decision on
Whether every jury member actually does it is another matter, but the judge 100% can dictate how the jury is supposed to decide a verdict.

>>509159636
Thanks
How do you know this, is there a liveticker or something your watching?

>>509158691
>Lawd judge, ya honor, we gots a whyboy on dis jury cayn'y follow strutchins
>He finna be like, "Hmm, hmm, but the preponderance of the evidence suggests..." shutcho bitchass mouf
>Fore I slap tha hell outchu
>Anyway, he ain't listnin to wat we sayin', which fo real was whatchu tole us ta do
>So fur real, can we jus git dis cracka ass outta hurr? Up outta dis bitch?
>For real

>>509156176
America has no respect for our laws or heritage. The judges used to say the jury makes a finding of law and fact, now the judges without any reason say the judges decide the law and the jury decides fact unless they are wrong in which case the judge still finds fact overruling them. Our system is a fucking farce.

Free Diddy, he dindu nuffin.

>>509154447 (OP)
American judges are just people in costumes. No reason to treat them with respect.

>>509160033
Yea. CNN

>>509154447 (OP)
That’s him on the left isn’t it?

>>509159997
A directed verdict violates the constitution which demands all matters of law and fact be decided by a jury of our peers. But judges don't care.

>>509159202
Spot on

Wait is this about jury nullification?

>>509160033
Here's the question the jury just asked

The jury’s question concerns the distribution of controlled substances.

In a note to the judge, the jurors asked that if a person asks for controlled substances and another person gives it to the requester, is the person who hands over the controlled substances considered to be distributing them.

Judge Arun Subramanian asked prosecutors and defense attorneys to meet and confer about how to respond to the jury’s question and let him know by 6 p.m. tonight if they can reach an agreement.

Subramanian said he wants to have a response ready for the jury in the morning, but they’ll hammer out any issues in the morning, if necessary.

>>509156296
That has to have been drawn by a kike. That rat looks nothing like the left side.

>>509155180
because the jury members would be hunted down and murdered

>>509159941
canada gives 100$/day if it's over 10 days long?
we get 6$/day here, take it or leave it.

>>509155569
>If the judge thinks the jury is retarded he can override their verdict.

Only partially correct. The judge may only override a guilty verdict. A not guilty verdict cannot be overridden. Example, a 12 member jury can unanimously find beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty and then the judge can check his chambers for a bag of money and say nope not guilty and turn them loose.

>>509160482
But you get room and board, yeah?

>>509160319
Ha. That's not really a matter of law, but rather a decision for the jury to make. In fact that would be the very question put to them, ie does this act evidenced constitute a violation of the law as written? The judge could present cases where such a conviction was upheld but would also have to show where no conviction was found. It's a nonsense question.

>>509158342
>Where's the bieber stuff? Crimes against children?

That stuff was dealt with through civil means. Just like epstein. In the eyes of our society and elite, as long as the victims get paid there is no reason to put our fine upstanding black mailed leaders and rich powerful people in jail.

You know Red Hot Chili Peppers dude admitted openly to banging a 14 year old girl. Then when he found out her age, banged her again for one last good times sake.

The mask is off. Qtards now know Trump was in on the epstein stuff. They don’t care anymore.
The only time anyone has to pay for sex crimes is when the other elites turn on someone, nothing to do with justice.

The way they look at it, if some loved entertainer or politician or CEO likes banging kids, welp that’s the price we pay to get to watch their movies or enjoy their music etc.

>>509160482
>6$/day
That isn't even enough to ride the bus to downtown.

>>509154636
No, all the rest are niggers voting to acquit because he is also a nigger. #25 is someone trying to actually apply the law

They just wanted to prove that he was a freaky ass nigga

>>509160482
i work for the govt, they pay me my regular hundredish bucks an hour wages while i do jury duty. they have a special box they the forms in when you check "yes" to "does your employer pay for jury duty time"

i always lie and check no. listening to people bitch at each other really, really chaps my ass and makes me belligerent. same with sitting through meetings where we talk about the same topic for the 3rd fucking time

>>509160793
Correct. Jury duty is literal slavery. A violation of the constitution as amended after the civil war.

>>509160648
no, not unless you're in some massive trial where you're being sequestered or something
otherwise it's like >>509160793 says, you're driving down there each day burning gas (can easily be nearly an hour to get to the court house, in max traffic because US city downtown regions always have the worst fucking road layouts) or do what I did, just take the bus. it definitely took longer to get to and from but at least I didn't have to deal with the traffic myself

>>509154915
t.

>>509160648
there are hardship exemptions, where you can get dismissed if you have to take care of an elderly family member, dont have transportation and live rurally, cannot take time off work or else itll financially impact you (poor) etc...

they have check boxes for that, some you can take up with the clerk and get dismissed

>>509154809
WHAT'S GOOD, NIGGA?
WHAT'S REALLY GOOD?

>>509154447 (OP)
Based
Free P Diddy

>>509156721
schizos cant recognize a face and there are many schizos in america, they should have been quiet about it and think their part.

>>509158304
Judges can't write laws. That's a violation of the separation of powers. That's for the legislature to do. The jury has the absolute right to disregard a judges instructions. The jury is the arbiter of law and fact in a court case, not the judge. The judge is just the referee to ensure the process is orderly.

>>509154915
The Sketch Artists Guild is very powerful. Only the Non-Hearing Impaired Sign Language Guild is more powerful.
They used to fight over territory before they divided up the world into Courtroom / Press Conference.
https://youtu.be/ipsPgNEmAXI&t=225

>>509160648
No, only if you are sequestered as fren said. Jury duty is literal slavery. It's a throwback to the feudal system when serving the king or local lord in war had to be done at your own expense or you were killer.

>>509161795
Sheeet. I'd like to say you are wrong, but I only know the sign for this dude is right.

>>509161052
>govt
Eglin?
>hundredish bucks and cagey
Oh, Langley!

>>509154809
That picture looks like shit. Look at the representation of a legal pad in the bottom right corner. If this is what Hitler had to deal with, I understand his motivation.>>509156360
This one too. It looks kinda cool, but courtroom sketches are supposed to be realistic.

>>509162463
Actually most of the degenerate art hitler destroyed was worse, at least this is represenative art, not abstract bullshit, but hitler liked that one cow painting and spared it. So do i

>>509162356
this kiddie shit is so tiresome.

>>509162620
?

>>509154447 (OP)
Uh oh jury nullification.
Fuck the "legal" system.
Courts are there to make it look like the system has some fairness.
There isn't any, fuck the system.

>>509163068
Yep. That's the one. Heil milker!

>>509163388
I don't want to live in a country where I can't have freak offs or have to worry about the whores I pay to attend crying rape when it makes them look bad

>>509163560
Regret isn't rape.

>>509158461
Uberbased and niggersandjewsare alwaysguiltypilled.

He a good boy. Gonna college gonna church turning he life around.

Dindunuffin

>>509162635
Well whats your job then that you make hundreds and hour?

>>509163068
Based fellow Gary Larson appreciator.

>>509159491
Kek.

>>509163679
exactly.

The one thing I wanted from this trial was the names of all the hollywood fucks that attended. It is the one thing we are not going to get. Hope they declare him innocent and he rapes all of them

>>509155702
>Even if they've got him dead to rights the jury can chose to let him go.
This is one of those myths sovcit fags love to repeat. Most districts allow for juror alternates to be substituted even into deliberations under certain extreme circumstances. A juror knowingly ignoring instructions from the judge would qualify, although it would open the case up for appeal.

>>509160648
They'll usually pay for meals if the jury has to stay at the courthouse all day, and they'll cover room and board if the jury is sequestered (isolated) for a trial and deliberations. Otherwise no.

That said, while US law doesn't require employers to treat jury duty as paid leave, about 80-90% of them do so, and you can usually get a hardship exemption from the court if your employer doesn't.

>>509164462
Actually in that case it's most likely going to be a hung jury. The judge can't replace the juror without cause and exercising perogative like that isn't one.

>>509163068
Most people fail to understand how those tools represent the fiduciary methods needed to overthrow the global central banking cabal.

>>509154447 (OP)
it's pretty funny how people pretend these baboon niggers, some kike in a dress, and this shitty etch a sketch faggot artist represent justice. can you imagine being arrested by a fat zogbot, charged with a crime, and see this "jury of your peers" when you walk in the courtroom? i'd laugh out loud

>>509158467
>video evidence can be thrown out as evidence easily vs written
lol
lmao

>>509159240
Iys so they cant have any evidence on illegal actions by the judge and prosecutor etc.

>>509165046
So what does real administration of justice look like to you then?

>>509165491
a court of free white men of good character, known and respected in the community, people whose names i've heard of before and not a room of complete strangers, with an official live stream for transparency

>>509166253
And if there aren't enough free white men of good character who's names the defendant hasn't heard of before? What then? A trial just never happens?

mistrial hahaha

>>509154447 (OP)
>No.25
Add it to the list

>>509166515
slowly go outwards from the locality if necessary

if there aren't enough white men who should comprise 50% of your population then you have a shitty mongrelized hellscape of a country and need a revolution

>>509166515
>And if there aren't enough free white men of good character
Then I'm 'fraid rope is true justice then because you don't have a country anymore.

>>509166253
We have something similar in every village to approve of new construction projects.
They go on insane power trips like you wouldn't believe it.

Dont even think about building a coop for your chickens if youre not prepared to have your wife suck a dozen cocks twice, one time to apologize for your uppityness of owning their land and then for them to approve.
Luckily they are outweighed by the law but they can delay you significantly

>>509155180
I guess it's up to the judge. I can tell you my confidence in the legal system was bolstered by the Rittenhouse trial. Maxwell trial should have been televised. Lots of fascinating things came out of it.

>>509166845
Then it kind of defeats the point you made, no? The further you reach out then the less likely you're going to know of those people who meet your criteria. Putting logistics like costs and travels aside, it sounds like you're less interested in the fair and impartial administration of justice and more concerned about wanting to be graded on a curve.

>>509154540
Grow up.

>>509154915
To silence people without documented proof

>>509166980
that's why you have a live stream and ombudsmen. heavy public involvement is the antidote
>>509167112
you should always know somebody who knows somebody who knows the court. otherwise you're being judged by strangers who don't give a fuck

Listening to judges is cuck sheep behaviour

shieeEEEEE niAAAAAAga I dindu NUFFIN yo y'all ignant

>>509167513
I don't think you entirely understand what you're wanting here. Unless you're literally just advocating for the jury to be people who know you or know you by proxy then logistically what you're asking for is nearly impossible. Even if there's enough seats to be filled entirely by white, free men who are known and respected by their community it doesn't garauntee they'll show up because they have...jobs and other commitments and there's a lot of courts in the US with a lot of cases going around. So unless you turn these individuals into a travelling cabal of jurors who's full time job is to sit there and decide on trials then it's like I said. You're not really interested in justice, you just want a council of old white guys to decide everyone's fate.

You can hate the jury selection process but there's a reason why it's the way it is, because without it then the jury as a concept just wouldn't exist.

>>509167998
Are you jewish?

>>509164930
>The judge can't replace the juror without cause
Ignoring a judge's instructions is grounds for removal from a jury.

>>509168073
No, just rural. I'm sure what the yank is asking for is very wonderful but I can't see it anything other than fanciful thinking.

>>509161238
Junior defending him in the landmark court ruling Varsity athelete v. makings of

>>509168198
The crux of your arguememt is that there are not enough free white men of good character. The solution, of course, is the genocide and/or forced removal of all non-whites.

>>509154915
The presiding judge gets to decide whether or not he allows cameras in the courtroom. 0.0001% of criminal cases have any demand for cameras, so the courtroom artist does the job.

>>509168408
*himself

>>509167513
>heavy public involvement
Heres a rule for life, no matter if you live in a village or a huge city. Half of the people just outright hate you just because and you cant change that.
The law is supposed to defend you from pitchfork mobs because your chicken coop is too gay and also from amtswillkür, we solved the problem the way we splve all problems.
By adding more and more lengthy bureaucratic processes.

Lmao

>>509159023
Proof? Blog/Xitter?

>>509168470
Well have fun with your crusade of retardation then.

>>509167998
the constitutional term is a "jury of one's peers."
it originates in the principle that a member of the house of lords may not be tried by commoners, and the more ancient principle that only a freeman can serve as a witness or juror against a freeman.
an american may object to jurors too far below or above his station.
it seems impractical now, but that's what the rule says. OJ simpson's lawyers demanded, and got, a jury of simpson's peers. so it's not that impractical. you just have to reach beyond the immediate location sometimes.

>>509154447 (OP)
What exactly were the instructions that can't be followed? Just the generic ones they always say?

>>509159240
>>509159843
This does make the most sense, but why not have a one way mirror for the jurors, so they cannot be filmed?

>>509168198
>No, just rural.
The smaller the village the bigger the secrets. If you have a jury filled only with volunteers who know you theyll find you guilty for crimes you werent charged with but someones ant heard about you commiting while she was taking a shit in the woods or whatever.

God i fucking hate these people, we literally live in paradise and their little minds have to stink it up.
Sad.

>>509168630
There's a pretty thin line between reaching beyond and just being flat out picky. After all, you yourself want a very specific demographic of people to be placed on juries because in your mind they carry very specific biases. 'A jury of one's peers' I'd argue usually means the community in general. Man, woman, child, black, white, brown, etc. When a serious crime is committed in a community, it affects everyone at some level so it makes sense that a jury *should* be a large cross-section of different members from different backgrounds. Again, I say you're not asking for a jury. You're just asking a council of elders to judge crimes, wich you can advocate for but it has nothing to do with juries.

>>509167998
i understand it would get pretty distant in a federal court in a large country, but yes you should always know them by proxy. for example, something local should be "i or my friend/family member personally knows the clerk/official i'm talking to", state/province should be that plus one degree of separation, and federal should be one more degree than that
>>509168564
>Half of the people just outright hate you just because
this is a symptom of globalism and alienation. not normal

>>509168630
>OJ simpson's lawyers demanded, and got, a jury of simpson's peers.
Qrd?
Who did they deny? Who did they get?
Only rich athelete niggers?

>>509155311
>Dumbed down
No, the real problem is no one actually wants to be on a jury so they half ass it.

>>509154915
>Why do Americans still use court sketches? Is it just some quaint thing you don't want to get rid of?
back in the day cameras had a fucking exploding flashbulb you had to replace for every picture taken, I imagine it was kind of distracting

>>509154447 (OP)
>Nigger is planning on giving Diddy the OJ treatment
lolllllll many such cases

>>509168789
Go back to pinterest.com/architecture, lmao

>>509156639
Why are there so many lawfags here?>>509158811
Wtf is that in the window?

>>509154447 (OP)
They should hang that nigger, but fucking with the kiked justice system is based.

>>509169017
>this is a symptom of globalism and alienation. not normal
My village is like 99% people of the same tribe, same language, same history same cilture and language.
And it still applies.

>>509158903
>>509158959
He truly has the best lawyer a court can appoint.
>New note just dropped: "Diddy didn't kill himself."

>>509161795
>The Sketch Artists Guild is very powerful. Only the Non-Hearing Impaired Sign Language Guild is more powerful.
>They used to fight over territory before they divided up the world into Courtroom / Press Conference.
Theres also the stenography guild that has staked their exclusive right to type down whats said in a courtroom

>>509169017
I don't think you'll ever get true seperation with what you're asking because there's always going to be conflict of interest if jury know officials or the clerks. I don't know in the US but here in Australia if you're a high ranking official or lawyer you're already disbarred from participating as a juror and if you personally know the accused yourself or by proxy then you have to excuse yourself from the case because of your biases. The point of a jury is to be judged by your peers, the community itself which are the people who will be most affected by your crimes.

>>509168614
Enjoy dying alone surrounded by hooting niggers and jeets

>>509154915
Cameras are not allowed in US courtrooms, except in some exceptional trials when allowed by the judge.

The reason is because criminals will take photos of the jury and use the photos to identify the jurors and threaten them.

>>509169452
If you wanna die in a jail cell for your faggot ass cause be my guest but I got a life to live.

>>509155061
American justice system = kangaroo court.
in NY you cannot use the 2nd amendment as an excuse when you get caught carrying a pistol in your pocket

>>509155702
and this is why niggers should not be allowed to sit on a jury

>>509160779
>You know Red Hot Chili Peppers dude admitted openly to banging a 14 year old girl. Then when he found out her age, banged her again for one last good times sake
This shouldn't be criminal as long as the girl isn't hurt/infected/etc. and she is otherwise compensated for any potential risk. You are trying to conflate child sexual abuse with consensual sex. If she is old enough to marry and start a family she is old enough to have sex.
>Idiots like you are why all of our politicians are being blackmailed for fucking teenagers. The law is obviously wrong because its enabling far worse abuses.

>>509168969
>I'd argue usually means the community in general
that's incorrect
it actually refers to one's exact social rank and station
it's a rule that predates america by centuries and the clue is in the term "peers" - other members of the peerage. apparently your study of anglo legal history doesn't go back further than the settlement - ours does. our laws were written in the spirit of reforming the english legal tradition, not divorcing from it completely.
trying to achieve pro-defendant bias does come into it (notable in gang cases) but the real legal reason is to make sure that people are judged by their social equals. an important goal for a country that had just eradicated peerage but wanted to preserve trials as an investigation of one man's violation of community standards, rather than a way for interest groups to gang up on each other.

>>509154447 (OP)
Whats the actual crime Diddy's accused of other than pressuring women into sex women who did it repeadetly.

>>509169168
consequence free debate on law and policy
it's like farming sim for a farmer

>>509154447 (OP)
I think him and several other Africans in the jury are trying to cause a mistrial. He will need to redo the entire thing in another state with an anonymous jury. It's too high profile. The whole room is corrupt.

>>509154447 (OP)
Sean Puff Daddy Pee Diddy Combs is a literal pimp. The only difference between him and a common street pimp is he is rich. He owned people to do sex performances for him who he had on his payroll. He called them his " girlfriends ", just like common street pimps call their hoes their
" girlfriends " He also used free lance hookers who he got through escort services. Men who he paid to fuck his hoes so he could sit and watch it.
He broke tons of laws all the time, over years to make live porn shows.
He had his own version of a Ghislaine Maxwell to help him. Her name is KK. Kristine Korum.
Also, P diddy is ugly af. He looks like a crispy black burnt Somali.

>>509155518
Typical white savior phenotype

>jury of your peers

Sorry but peers aren't single moms and niggers.

>>509170058
He looks like fat Johnny Somali

>>509155180
They don’t want it turned into TV trials. It really should apply to all courts

>>509154809
Why are they using that video as evidence?
lol he going to be found guilty but they will have to let him out because it’s a feminist witch trial and they are retarded lol

>>509155494
Federal trials may not be televised. Other trials can. I don't know why.

>>509170058
>Kristine Korum
She was an FBI mole. Diddy will be spending the rest of his life behind bars.
https://youtu.be/oojfcwolpyg?feature=shared

>>509155180
Courtroom artists are running their own racket and have fought hard to maintain their roles in the same way many railroad companies had to put up with keep a guy that would sit on the back of the train to press the emergency brake even after he became redundant. I don’t know why nobody talks about this but it’s a genuine travesty and a position even more worthless than having sign language interpreters for televised speeches (who are all worthless retards who took sign language in high school and rabidly defend their roles because they are only fit for fast food work, retail, or working at a call center

>>509170058
>Paying women to be his girlfriend is illegal
Bro

>>509154447 (OP)
This guy is holding out looking for an eventual payday from Diddy. What can be done is a situation when a juror doesn’t give a fuck and wants to throw the case? A note? Lol. Please God let Diddy walk, it will be hilarious

>>509154809
Pastels? These could be auctioned off for good $$

>>509169452
Everyone dies alone lol

>>509170408
Total bullshit. They don’t want cameras and a bunch faggot media people snapping pics or idiots snapping selfies.

>>509155518
Jane Goodall

>>509170488
It will be a miss trial and they will will just have a new trial

The other reason they don’t want cameras in federal cases they don’t want people taking pictures on the jury and work possible jury intimidation or retaliation.

>>509155348

*fecaloids

>>509155965
The trick with nullification is you can't talk about nullification. You just say you don't believe the suspect has been proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Then you shut the fuck up. No one can question that -- that is, very specifically, the determination you are there to make as a juror. If you are actually saying that because you are nullifying it's indistinguishable, as long as you keep your mouth shut.

>>509162463
Actual artist here, this drawing was probably done in 5min, and is done to capture the motion and emotion of the scene, rather than the exact likeness. We have camera's to do that. The artists job has evolved. This picture while not capturing a perfect likeness, does capture his reaction to him kicking the shit out of someone in a hallway, which is hilarious. He knows he's cooked.

>>509154915
It lets the artist editorialize the trial by drawing some people respectably and making charicatures out of others.

>>509154447 (OP)
The juror contradicted himself.
He said he could be unbiased and realized he could not.
Smart man.

>>509168105
No it's not. Juries do it all the time. That's their perogative. Judges don't even listen to superior courts. And judges are jurists. Cause would be the taking of a bribe or intimidation of a witness.

so was diddy raping white chicks in the freak offs?

>>509154901
Write the verdict in cursive

>>509171141
Correct. And they always work for the state so their bias is constant.

>>509170883
Of course, but if you're the only one being stubborn while the other jurors have come close to an agreement of guilt, aren't they gonna pull some shit on you? I don't know in detail how this shit works, but I wonder if they can't say interrogate you and demand you explain why you think it hasn't been proven, or straight up kick you off the jury and replace you with an alternate.

>>509170479
No, he called them his girlfriends. Really, they were his hoes and employees. Prostitution is illegal. Transporting prostitutes around the world and country, is also illegal. Any common street pimp also calls his workers, his, " girlfriends ". This creates plausible deniability of illegal actions when they get hemmed up. Like Combs is, now.

>>509155702
The jury as it stands today cannot last, no one gives a fuck about the law anymore and it will basically just be a popularity contest where a single person loving you can set you free. A mistrial leads to no conviction too right?

>>509171718
Yep. Deliberations allow juries to debate, in other words intimidate and influence one another. It should be one anonymous vote and everybody goes home. No debate. But by holding you hostage the state can force a guilty verdict. That's why they do it. It's evil.

>>509171830
Mistrial no conviction, but the state just retries the case hoping for a different outcome, clearly violating the double jeopardy clause of the constitution, but the court system hates our God and our Constitution so they do it anyway.

>>509158304
Judges CANNOT overrule an acquittal, only a guilty verdict. That is fact.

>>509171619
Lol

>>509171086
>He knows he's cooked.

Any other man would know it. But people like Combs have been getting away with murder for decades. He doesn't suspect a thing, I'll bet.
He won't believe its real life, as the judge is reading out the verdict.

>>509155020
>not in my court
the judge can just second the entire jury

>>509154447 (OP)
Fuck jiggers 2bh

>>509172512
It's certainly going to be funny when he meets justice. But only if it takes down everyone and they really don't want that. Let them burn.

>>509172512
He has all the people and connections inside the system that he needs

>>509170408
>don’t know why nobody talks about this but it’s a genuine travesty and a position even more worthless than having sign language interpreters for televised speeches
Im genuinely so retarded that
>why not just use subtitles
Had to ne pointed out to me

>>509170252
It isn't based, it's inefficient and faggy

>>509154915
Juries get worried about being identified so no cameras in court.

>>509172670
It seems like this Combs case is related to other similar crime rings. Peter Nygard. That nxivm " sex cult " as it was referred to, but was also a crime ring. And of course, the Ghislaine Maxwell Jeffrey Epstein crime ring. The Hunter Biden laptop recordings. Were they all working together, in some capacity?
What did they do with the recordings of the sex? Maybe they were selling them on the dark web, to other like minded sicko rich people. Like they do snuff films.

>>509172725
Or mb that is just what he has been lead to believe. Time will tell.

>>509154447 (OP)
Well, somewhere it says, "jury of your peers". Diddy may be fucking retarded.

>>509155685
Usually it’s essentially stating personal bias like a black juror that doesn’t want to put another black in jail or a juror ignoring a sustained objection like if a woman being told to disregard some “abusive” texts brought up that weren’t admitted to evidence and she keeps bringing it up. Potentially someone breaking sequester like if some retard was posting details online or watching media coverage of the trial.

>>509160247
A directed verdict of guilty cannot be issued. Directed verdicts can only be of not guilty.

>>509155702
>Jury nullification exists.
And requires a unanimous verdict.

>>509173434
It's been dine many times. Including in trumps own trial remember?

>>509173144
He does seem stupid. Stupid, but clever. Rich people like him have an entourage of fixers and handlers around them at all times. Like a king's court. This includes lawyers and others who know how to get around the technicalities of the law, to imply plausible deniability. Combs had this sort of people telling him to do certain things to cover his ass. Things like, making his " girlfriends " pay the freelance hookers, or like telling his "girlfriends" to send and receive texts and sexts with the freelance hookers to make it appear as though he was uninvolved, on some legal level.
You can be clever and stupid at the same time. Combs is both stupid and clever.

>>509156018
No higher education skews white or Asian Democrat and “scientist” skews medical or education which skews even further white or Asian Democrat and it’s in New York so definitely Democrat. Thats as not guilty as you can get for a black person even moreso than putting another black on the jury. Remember many of his victims were black so they won’t be as biased as many assume here. Had he murdered a white person they’d let him off but that ain’t what’s going on here.

>>509159023
based Steve Bell

Mkay so apparently juror 25 is Eastern European and this is likely a concern that he can’t understand a lot of testimony and instructions due to a language barrier

>>509174318
They didn't figure this out until now? Fishy af. Anyway, what is the remedy for such an occurrence, using one of the alternate jurors?
Seems a simple fix.

>>509174561
Yeah alternate juror sounds likely. The survey says he’s a 51 year old gay neuroscientist that practices veterinary medicine or some shit and apparently his grasp of English isn’t good enough to understand the directions.