Thread 509157786

Why does austrianpainterd art skill make Faggots seethee?
Looks good to me

Its simply not art. Postcards at best.

>>509157882
I kike it.
Its something id hung on my wall.

>>509158040
Ok

>>509157786 (OP)
Isn't this Niggerchwanstein Castle?

>>509157882
It very clearly is art. You're just a retard who has some bullshit pseudo-mystical view of art to the point you can't even give a definition.

>>509157786 (OP)
Looks like shitty AI art anon. Your fuhrer failed.

Imagine how it must have felt to walk those tower minerates and stare out across the land.

>>509158606
You can go find out. It's a popular tourist spot.

>>509158688
I own nothing. My time is at the end. I am just riding out the remainder.
It would have been nice.

>>509158451
At the very least art is something new conceptually. Hitler's paintings are things done over and over thousands of times if not more. By far more skilled people too.

>>509159232
he was doing photorealistic shit at a time when dadaism and other surreal shit was becoming mainstream, because photography was already an established art

bad timing for his style, that is all

>>509159232
>There are better artists there for he sucks
I like his painting.
And the russian one that did mass produced urinals called it art.

>>509159459
>bad timing for his style

Again, art is about creating new things/styles/concepts etc. Photorealism isn't art. Its like taking a photo of a landmark. It requires some skill, but no creativity. And Hitler lacked even in the skill department - his perspective was all over the place. So he even failed even at that.

>>509159803
You are a retarded nigger. The greatest artists in history aren't some faggots who came up with a new way of vomiting garbage onto paper and calling it a new art style, they were men with peerless dedication and skill pouring their lives into creating magnificent sculptures of heroes, or colossal paintings of heavenly visions.

>>509160794
You are a social reject

>>509157882
Better than your shit.

>>509159803
Pseud.
For further explanation, see the first 5 words of this post: >>509160794

>>509159232
There’s this kike mind rot again.
Novelty does not make something art, you fucking brainlet.

>>509157786 (OP)

He had no solid grasp of perspective or lighting yet insisted HE MUST be let into an elite art school with his park painter-tier portfolio.

100 years later some rightoid online drops pic related like it's supposed to be a spirit bomb of an artwork but tells you Picasso is "degenerate".

GTFO

>>509161524
Novelty in itself isn't art yet. But art cannot exist without it. So not everything new is art, but art is always something new. Hitler's works are the equivalent of today's AI.

>>509162125
Circular logic: “to make art is a novelty, therefore art is always to make something new”.
There is no evidence or beginning to this claim.

>>509162976
Its simple - recreating stuff that already exists isn't art. I fail to see why it is necessary that copypasting is not art. But art is subjective, so if it is art to you, then fine. Just don't be surprised when the absolute majority of people don't agree with you.

>>509162004
So what? Schooling could have helped his perspective?
And yeah modern art is degenerate, just like you faggoy.YANH

>>509163952

It was an high tier academy for young talents, not emo fags comin in with their raped doodles of le pretty building.

Pic related is what Schiele was painting at 17 just as Hitler was ready to head for the ACK-fields of WW1 after getting rejected twice.

>>509157786 (OP)
Gianni Gianni, non mi banni

>>509164655
Don't whine and bitch and moan about perspective and then post that shit

>>509162004
Gee, if there was only something that wouldv'e helped with his understanding of perspective or lightning. Like an art school or something.

>>509162004
>perspective
>lightning
Very insightful, now post the works of other artist from his generation that got in while he was denied.

>>509164920
That isn't supposed to be photorealistic. Are you seriously complaining about perspectives in expressionism?
>>509164943
Hitler didn't apply to some art school. He wanted to enroll into Europe's and possibly the world's top art academy. You don't go there with skills like that.

>>509165142
Expressionism and abstract are terrible children's drawings.
Hitler didn't make it into art school because photorealism wasn't trendy.
Pic related; a "master piece" in the eyes of art faggots.

>>509162004
>>509164655
FFS, you're an insufferably whiny kike.

>>509165142
But you are being disingeneous. He didn't get in because of lack of skill. In fact, the examiners told him that he would have success as an architect.
He didn't get in because he painted traditional, even religious art.
And don't get me wrong, I really like works from people like Egon, but the truth of the matter is that his rejection from art school is directly related to tendencies found in jewish owned societies, were objectivism needs to disappear.

>>509165479
>Expressionism and abstract are terrible children's drawings.
You complained about the lack of perspective in expressionism. Now you are just moving the goalpost.
>>509165604
>He didn't get in because of lack of skill
He didn't get in because he wasn't an artist. Artists at that time were expected to be creative, which he wasn't. He simply tried to copy reality and that had been done millions of times at that point. And even when it came to his "style" of painting, his skills were all over the place. As anons above pointed out. Not even his postcard drawings were done right.

>>509165122

Just did fag lol, and trust me you don't want me to post same age Picasso because he rapes your midlet

>>509165504

I accept your surrender faggot, now follow your leader

>>509165604

Or you can actually read what the rejection was for instead of seething at what you imagine:


>Griepenkerl disapprovingly noted, "Sample drawing unsatisfactory. Too few heads." And in 1908, his verdict was simply "Not admitted."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Griepenkerl

Being a passable painter to sell bathroom decorations is not enough to get into a top 3 prestigious schools who would've thunk

>>509165988
>pic related is soOoOoooo creative
>very stunning and also brave

>>509166431
You may like it or hate it, but its much more creative than all of Hitler's works combined. Again, creativity does not mean you have to like it. Its something new, something that had never existed before. Hitler's paintings were none of that.

>>509166551
>You may like it or hate it, but its much more creative than all of Hitler's works combined. Again, creativity does not mean you have to like it. Its something new, something that had never existed before. Hitler's paintings were none of that.
Whoa look out! We got sumfin dat nevuh bin dun befo.
That will be 1.5 million plus tip

>>509163496
Nigga do you ever shut the fuck up? You write like a pretentious twat who has no soul

>>509166386
His recommendation to pursue architecture is well recognized as a fact.
And it's hilarious that you post Picasso, a 1 in a million genius, as the average student of a fine arts university. And you're talking about imagination.

>>509166386
>Just did
Show them to the others in this thread. Show them the people who got into Vienna academy the year hitler did not.

>>509166775
You aren't arguing in good faith.

>>509166775
You're mixing gallery mafia with quality art.

>>509166989

Yeah but that's like telling your little brother he can play with the unplugged controller. If you're gonna go for photorealistic at least make it fucking look realistic.

I post Picasso because it is the quintessential "degenerate" artist that makes /pol/acks seethe with anger yet completely mogs their failed private.

>>509165479
>Expressionism and abstract are terrible children's drawings.
Mutt education.
>Pic related; a "master piece" in the eyes of art faggots.
Nope, that's shit
/t. artfag

>>509167135
>You aren't arguing in good faith
Neva bin dun befo/heck'n creative =/= good art
>>509167224
Abstract and expressionism is objectively bad
>>509167305
>Mutt education.
So good art is whatever the teacher tells you is good art? Lol

>>509166551
>creative
Bro, it's utter shit. Random lines on a paper. Like a kid made it.

>>509159232
>new conceptually

You jack off other landscape and building paintings. It's just bad because you're a kike.

>>509159803
So all the Catholic Art isn't art them because it's the same thing? Leonardo isn't art? Michaelangelo isn't Art?

>>509160966
And there it is. You're brainwashed by kike propaganda.

>>509167264
Some of his art is pretty soulful.
Also, the reason why Nazism has had unparalleled aesthetics which will be forever known and referenced is because of Hitler's understanding of them.
And again, I'm not a midwit who will criticise Picasso or Egon because it doesn't follow a classical understanding of technique, both of them were incredible artists.
But saying that Hitler had bad technique is pure cope. His technique was perfectly fine for someone who wanted to get into art, it was his vision, which was a traditionalist approach and art was shifting towards experimentation of forms and expression.

>>509163496
>recreating stuff that already exists isn't art.

KEK literally every artist does that. I guess portraiture isn't art then huh fag?

>>509164655
Looks about the same if not worse then Hitlers. You're a kike.

>>509164655
One of the ugliest images in this thread. Oh my god.

>>509166551
Dude it's ugly and not creative. It's children scribbles.

>>509167575
>Abstract and expressionism is objectively bad
Objectively wrong.
>So good art is whatever the teacher tells you is good art?
No dumbass. Art is a very wide term that covers not only skill in pure technical and/or technological execution, but also realm of ideas. You judging are judging art by a very niche field where works of abstraction and expressionism either don't focus on or completely avoid.

>>509166551
Holy shit you're so Jewish.

>>509157786 (OP)
Because at that time Europe was already completely degenerate in the field of arts, see Picasso, did you know that his famous Guernica which he said was supposed to depict the victims of German airstrikes? Well that's a lie Picasso like your average faggot picked up a old painting he had around his study and then claimed that it was about that and the usual suspects went along that lie and that's the end of the story.

>>509159232
dadaist jew nonsense

>>509167985
You're objectively wrong kike.

>>509167769

It was fine for someone who aspired to do commercial or semi professional work, it was shabby and noob but improveable within an academy, it was not and never would be Academy of Fine Arts material tho. Thus the recommendation he study architecture instead.

>>509157882
Hitler was born at the wrong time. He could've been a commercial artist like Norman Rockwell, but then politics and war drove him insane.

>>509168066
Yet shitty abstract stuff was accepted at the academy? Bullshit
The university was run by kikes with an agenda.

>>509163496
>art imitates life
>but don't recreate things that already exist
holy shit nigger what are you doing?

>>509168064
>kike
>memeflag
Where am I wrong retard?

It looks good to you because you’re a plebeian. His perspective and angles are all fucked. Like the relative angularity of the castle is all over the place. Looks quite shit actually, I can see why the retard was rejected.

>>509168119
He wasn't insane. Jews are evil vermin.

>>509167985
>No dumbass. Art is a very wide term that covers not only skill in pure technical and/or technological execution, but also realm of ideas.
So this meme must be peak modern art.
It's quite a thought provoking piece, no?

>>509168020
Social reject

>>509167883
>>509167951

>aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa why didn't this dogshit mess of retarded proportions and perspective get into the top art school

>>509168185
Abstract is retarded children's drawings pushed by the Jew to ruin beauty. You're Jewish.

I wish he persisted as an artist instead of settling tens of thousands of zionist Jews in Palestine. I like that classical art better than the abstract modern stuff.

>>509168255
lol mad. Hope you're shilling, otherwise you're a sad retard

>>509168282
Looks great retard. Also what do you think a school is for?

>>509168299
don't start

>>509157882
Post flag Israel.

>>509168233
Using your argument I can say that a Marvel film is peak cinema when we both know that is not correct. You're countering my argument with a strawman.

>509168293 (no you for israeli flag)
nice bait

>>509157882
>>509157786 (OP)
>>509159232
Looks fine to me. I'd definitely hang it on my wall.

>>509168519
It's not bad to hang on a wall in a house. But that doesn't make it art. Let alone good art. Hitler could have made money drawing Christmas postcards, but that does not warrant being accepted into Europe's top art school.

>>509168365

>shadows all over the place
>window diahrrea
>parts of the building shoved into each other
>people are stick figures
>giga lamp post

This is why /pol/ niggers are retarded.

>>509162004
>225x225
Very nice art graphic, for ants

>>509168449
Using your argument a marvel movie isn't very creative. It tries to be realistic but fails so it's bad.
But a black screen with 4 uninterrupted hours of audio recorded from a pub bathroom on a saturday night? Now that is a cinematic masterpiece

>>509164655
>Schiele
why do u faggots always shill this piece of shit who can't even properly draw a fuckin hand?

>>509162004
>sees things from multiple perspectives
>criticises him for his apparent lack of perspective
the fuck?

>>509168793

Yeah apologies, here's a bigger pic

>>509168282
Miles better than the shit you posted.

>>509168867

Because just like Picasso he makes you fags seethe the hardest. Your ideologe will forever be mogged by a literal faggot who knew that windows didn't float in space.

>>509159803
>art is about creating new things
Wrong.

>>509168293
>>509168155
>>509165479

Abstract art is sh- ACKKKKK. Also if you zoom in many textures you can get abstraction effects in photography that look gorgeous. Also all music is abstract, I guess /pol/'s music taste is birds chirping and water fountains because abstract art is a jewish pysop. Many abstract paintings are tasteless and simple but you retards are unsensitive brutes who only understand art as a technical proof of aryan superiority. Stick to talk about phenotypes and haplogroups, ngmi.

>>509168672
Art is always subjective. Yes, there is a matter of technical proficiency, but even that is out the window with jewish post modernism. A piece like that done with oil pant could take weeks to finish. Post modernism is garbage and still considered art. What's great to one person is insufferable to another.

There's no objective benchmark for it other than if someone appreciates the work.

>>509168827
So what film would you use as an argument for an artpiece being popular doesn't mean it's considered good, even by artist?

>>509168933
Hey, you still haven't posted the works of artists that got in the academy from the same year that Hitler was rejected.

>>509157786 (OP)
"Oh what a tangled web we weave, when we practice to deceive"

A certain group went all-in spreading propaganda that Hitler was a bad guy.
They dug their hole deep with their lies, and now they are stuck in it.
In their minds, and what they would like to project out there, is that this painting is not a beautiful castle, it is "the death tower" where 6.66 Million jews were forced to climb their own mother's hair that she dangled out the widow trying to help them escape, but many of them fell into the acid filled moat that hitler had dug around the castle. The powerful boiling acid was so strong it dissolved all the bodies without a trace, and the evil hitler threw the mothers out the window as well

>>509169148
Lmao what the fuck is that?

>>509169100
no, it's because you have no taste and prefer degenerate trash
there's a shot ton of better stuff to compare it to but you instead choose the trashiest of shit, proving you worship dogshit as intended

>>509169148
Whoa!!!!!1
Are those some complimentary colors brushed slightly less than randomly on a piece of canvas???!!??!
My entire perspective on abstract art has heck'n changed

>>509169411
kek, it's a les masterpiece of slop

>>509169411
I know I know, the dogs playing poker painting you found in a dollar store looks better to you. Truly aryan taste.

>>509169158
>There's no objective benchmark for it other than if someone appreciates the work.

Well, most people clearly don't see anything special in Hitler's works. Even people here would not praise if they didn't knew he was the one who had made them. Because they are blend. Again, they are not bad for someone doing postcards, but that's not art. It does not stand out. And his wasn't even technically correct.

>>509169244
>So what film would you use as an argument for an artpiece being popular doesn't mean it's considered good, even by artist?
Gayniggers from Outer Space

>>509169603
>most people clearly don't see anything special
Same goes for lots of obscure artists. If I turn on the radio it's filled with absolute garbage that supposedly has "lots of people seeing something special" it's clear that art is subjective. I listen to music with 50k views on jewtube that gets me fired up to drive fast. Very few people recognizing it, still fun art.

>>509168293
wasting your breath.

>>509159232
Yes you're not a real ((artist)) unless you duct tape bananas to walls

>>509162004
>Beautiful color and lighting.
>A good sense of composition and framing.
>But muh perspective lines
Grow up

>>509169695
This is why no one values your opinion, uneducated mutt.

>>509157786 (OP)

Modern art was envogue at the time. Picasso was popular then.

>>509157786 (OP)
Since ww2, the left has defined what art is.
A banana glued to the wall is sold for 6 million - normal people simply have no sense of art.
In a neighboring town we have a 5 year old boy. He throws the paint on the canvas and sells his paintings for ~50k on average.

It's art if you're either perceived as cute by left-wingers or if you're left-wing yourself - that's enough to take a leading position in the art scene today.

>>509164655
But muh invisible perspective lines

>>509157786 (OP)
By the way, the landscape is wrong. I live 10km away and have flown hundreds of times at this location with my paraglider because the castle is directly below my local mountain.

>>509157786 (OP)
It looks cold and lifeless.

>>509170286
Evil cannot create, only corrupt. This is why the Reich itself failed to produce any works of art - it only tired copying previously created things and even failed at that.

>>509169841
the duct taped banana is a metaphorical political statement and a bold one at that. A silent, and mostly peaceful protest of censorship in Japanese anime. The banana obviously represents the male genitalia, while the duct tape represents the ridiculous, pointless, censor bar that the Japanese government dictatorship, unreasonably demands.

>>509170124
That doesn't count because the artist was heck'n expressing himself!!

>>509157882
>Art is a genderqueer foxkin faggot projectile shitting paint over a large blank canvas on the floor
Idk. Hitler's art seems more like art than anything produced in the past 80 years.

>>509170378
>evil
It's called pest control, roach.

>>509162004
Isn't a school there to teach you this shit? If you already know everything, what point has the school?

>>509157786 (OP)
it's how liberals are

>>509170599
nope, that was the mistake Hitler made
college in general, and liberal arts colleges in particular, are not where you go to learn anything you haven't already learned
they're where you go to kiss enough Rothschild ass to get them to declare you a great artist, and by the time of the Weimar Republic they would often demand all sorts of freaky sexual favors for their patronage as well
Adolf Hitler tried to get by on just the quality of his art, and rather unsurprisingly this enraged all the Bolshevist freaks expecting at least a blowie in return for their praise

>>509157786 (OP).

It's classical art reminiscent of the old times. Nothing wrong with it. It's cool, honestly.

>>509157786 (OP)
Perspective and scale is fucked. He wasn't a good artist.
>Nooooooo he was trying to go to school to learn!
Not what those schools are for. It's a network of in rich kids.

Not sure why people cry about it anyway because if he went he never would've gotten a shitty job as a construction laborer and gotten fired by unions which made him hate commies forever.

Niggers tongue my anus is art.

>>509164655
This is way worse than Hitlers paintings, are you retarded?

>>509168282
This is infinitely better than the dogshit slop from Schiele lmaoooo

>>509168299
Oh look a christkike schizo, right on time.
Hitler and NSDAP were extremely opposed to letting jews have a country.
It was Britain and your country that created Israel and empowered zionism.
The jews Hitler moved to Palestine were meant to be there as subjects of an islamic Palestinian government.

>>509164655
not a fan

>>509172371
I like van gogh but not schiele

>>509157786 (OP)
damn thats a cool castle i should build that in minecraft

>>509172371
kek, this Schiele trash they worship
nigger couldn't even draw hands

>>509170419
And yet the Japanese have a fit and say the prudish Americans are ruining their open and carefree approach to sexuality.
Uhh how Japanese hate visa, mastercard, paypal.

>>509170378
>Evil
The Third Reich was based though. They should have won WWII. Nothing about them was evil at all. You're thinking of international jewry.

>>509171799
the issue isn't really minor perspective quirks but that he does craftmanship not art, there is zero story in his paintings

>>509159232
Im guessing you think Andy Warhol photographing soup cans is art though right?

>>509170378
The Reich produced art far greater than any jew in history ever has.

>>509162004
You sure? This looks very well made to me also
>>509170599
This, 100000000% this. Like what the fuck that's the entire point?
>hey i don't know this skill
>I'm paying money so you could teach me in this institution!

The school was just modern art trash, it's that simple, Hitler didn't get rejected because
>muh perspective.

It's because of these two reasons
>His art wasn't ugly (which is the point of modern trash)
>His art made everyone else in that school seem like pussy

Most likely a mix of both, really makes you look retarded when one of your students has more skill than half the staff put together

>>509173052
it is art, not a fan though

>>509172939
I happen to like his art.

>>509157786 (OP)

what took that person years to achieve, I can replicate with five seconds and ai program. Lower your tone when you talk to me, intellectual oompa-loompa.

>>509159803
>art is about creating new

Oft.

>>509173207
>I can replicate with five seconds and ai program
It's not the same as organic art. It's a different and fun genre, but it can only copy. The Aryan mind can create.

>>509173111
I do not see it as art.

>>509172497
>Hitler and NSDAP were extremely opposed to letting jews have a country.

My understanding is that their strategy was to encourage Jews to leave German territory by any means, including resettling them elsewhere (preferably outside Europe). Hitler wasn't responsible for the establishment of Israel, but is it wrong to say he was willing to encourage Zionism in order to remove them from Europe?

>>509157882
FPBP
It's a jpeg, postcard worthy subject matter that'd be lost in a museum. These anons think looking at tiny pixelated images is akin to looking at art. Lol
>>509165122
This image mogs anything Hitler ever did. I can only image how it looks up close irl, the only way art can be viewed/assessed.
For all I know the colors are all wrong, the lighting is all wrong, it's poorly cropped, viewing it straight-on, cannot grasp the surface, etc.
Pol anons should refrain from ever speaking on art again. This is pathetic, and to not understand the centuries-old importance of abstraction, the advanced place our ancestors went in their minds is truly disgusting. This entire site is filled with nitwits.

>>509173289

that sure is a whole lot of cope posting to mask the fact that your achievement means nothing in the vast space that is humanity ingenuity.
>Lower your tone.

>>509157786 (OP)
He couldn’t paint hands

>>509173396
schiele should have been send to the front, trash

>>509172916
>Nothing about them was evil at all.

Just a friendly regime that banned political parties, made freedom of speech nonexistent, enslaved the press to the point of creating a ministry of propaganda and then went on to do friendly invasions of about half of European countries. Nazi Germany is a great example of how a single megalomanic dictator can ruin the lives of dozens of millions of people by hijacking a powerful state and turning it into his personal war machine. There was nothing good about Nazi Germany, all it did was spread misery and terror. First within its own borders, then to neighbouring German speaking areas and then even beyond that to people completely unrelated to Germans. At the end of the day Hitler was the worst thing to have happened to Germans themselves. He used their moment of weakness to take over the country and then force them into an unwinnable war he would keep prolonging until the entirety of Germany had been destroyed.

>>509173338
The nazis were divided on this remark

Some wanted them to move to Madagascar and some just wanted them to be wherever else.

But very few retarded one's wanted to exterminate them all, i call them retarded because they openly wanted to start the war earlier for this reason

>>509157786 (OP)
The reason he didn't get into art school had nothing to do with his artistic abilities. He simply didn't meet the basic prerequisites.

>>509173519
>The nazis were divided on this remark

>>509173492
national socialist can farm, jewish communist can not

>>509165479
Picrel isn't a couple of inches big, the colors are all wrong, the lighting is all wrong, no sense of scale, texture, you have no idea how this piece looks. You think contemporary is Modern, that abstraction is something new. Expressionism and abstraction have been around for hundreds and hundreds of years. It's the breakthrough, not the shortcut.
>>509169148
You can only view art in person
>if you zoom in
You think that means anything? Is that accurate? Is that real?
Music isn't a form of art.
Anons can't speak on anything with authority. These dummies have lost all ability to discern and think for themselves.

>>509165122
They weren’t painting like that when they were in school and the academy was still very conservative
Artist are like musicians
You got to stand out or you just blend in with the background noise
Hitler was just mediocre
He couldn’t draw people and his architecture studies where pretty inconsistent in quality
He wasn’t horrible but he wasn’t on that level

>>509157786 (OP)
Imagine if things had gone differently.

>>509173338
>but is it wrong to say he was willing to encourage Zionism in order to remove them from Europe?
It is wrong. He was absolutely not willing to encourage zionism and had no tolerance for it. You have been manipulated by someone with anti-NS ideals. Generally these types on 4chan are very rabid zionist christians, these unhinged schizos who believe that Europeans are the descendants of biblical jews and that jews are of the khazars (completely unhistorical nonsense).
Simply read Mein Kampf.

>>509157786 (OP)
no depth perception

>>509165122
I never liked schiele but denying he was a talented draft man is silly

>>509173402
Non AI generated art is generally better than AI art at the present time. I've heard some pretty funny cool pieces made with AI, but nothing ground breaking. By definition it gets trained then copies. It will only ever be a remix rather than an original. A machine cannot feel like an organic being can. This is something that could only be replicated through 2 billion years of evolution, and even then, be at best a copy.

>>509173519
Jews have proven that the only correct solution is to wipe them out.
>>509173702
You should actually read what the Haavara agreement was, not your christkike schizo websites I mean.
They moved a very small amount of jews to British Palestine and the goal was that they would have no power of any kind there and no jewish government.
It had ZERO effect on jews ability to "occupy and control Palestine", that was 100% done by you USA and Britain. They were mere plebeians in Palestine at the time of the Haavara agreement. And there were already jews living there to begin with who had been living there for two thousand years you know, the situation of the Palestinians had not been affected in any way by Germany. The amount of jews moved there by Germany were a few thousand.

That coin is not "commemorating collaboration" of any kind, the jews had zero say in this matter at all.

Stop lying rat.

>>509173792
>nooooo don't obligate the jews to go on the frontlines and put their lives down for the German people
This enrages the christkike.
Also they had zero jewish field marshals, generals, SS members or anything of the sort. You are thinking of mischlings, who were under 1/4 jewish ancestry by grandparents, 0 jewish parents, and STILL were not allowed to marry pureblood Germans.
They were subjects of the state, not citizens.

You are pathetic, kike worshipper.

>>509174367
to me the coin seems like biting mockery but that is my perception as a modern native speaker
it is the way it is formulated

>>509165479
Picasso was creative
the point was he was trying to make art that was uniquely to art not something you could get with a photograph
Photography made realism largely redundant especially when it had already reached its peak during the baroque period in the 1600s
You don’t have to like it but that’s what peak creativity looks like

>>509174577
It does seem like Germans having a laugh at the jews, as the coin says something like "for a Nazi trip to Palestine"

>>509174678
picasso proved that he could do it for real, a necessary step to prove it was by intent a bar most modern artist do not cross

>>509174786
the "tell us of it" means "tell us" how it goes, absolute contempt and disregard mockery and jovial
total impolite and unbefitting tone

>>509166775
The banana is genuinely good artwork, sorry you just don't get it.

>>509174882
Its the only kind of coin jews deserve.

This is the actually a good painting from Hitler.

His main problem was not perspective or whatever but that he was adamant on this outdated romanticism (that he did not do very good, either). He would've done himself a huge favor had he allowed himself to be more creative with his style and leaned more into the expressionist zeitgeist of the time.

>>509159459
STUPID FUCKING HUNGARIAN APE THE VIENNESE ACADEMY WAS CONSERVATIVE AS FUCK AND A N OLD FASHIONED /TRAD/ CONSERVATIVE (GRIEPENKERL) REJECTED HITLER NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP

>>509157882
fpbp

>>509168867
Because he kinda applied at the same time as Hitler. He also hated the academy, the feeling was mutual and they were very happy to get rid of him.

>>509175185
That painting is absolutely shit, and it shows just how mediocre he was.

>>509175185
>and leaned more into the expressionist zeitgeist of the time.
No he shouldve just drawn more fucking figures.

>>509175611
>kike says as he posts an absolute trash painting

The thing is: all kinds of people get rejected from academia, most of the time it has nothing to do with ones actual talent. Its just that he was Hitler and it adds to the myth and legend for the goy to talk about.

>>509159232
>getting naked and sucking my own dick in the middle of a playground is art guize

>>509173519
>i call them retarded because they openly wanted to start the war earlier for this reason

I can't call that retarded, just a little precipitous. Their instincts weren't wrong.

>>509173702
>pic

That's more of an interpretation of their actions in hindsight rather than proof of intent.

>>509174030
>He was absolutely not willing to encourage zionism and had no tolerance for it. You have been manipulated by someone with anti-NS ideals.
>Simply read Mein Kampf.

I could reread. My impression was that encouraging them to self-deport was a matter of pragmatism ín very dire straits rather than any belief in the wholesomeness or long-term viability of a j4j state. Appreciate the replies.

>>509157786 (OP)
i would definitely hang it on my wall, i like this type of calmness in pictures, of course there were better at the time but still, I can also understand why he was rejected

>>509175611
you sound like a mindless hater
this painting accurately reflects his state of mind and is very authentic to what he felt at the time. It has soul
I can respect that, even if it's not technically flawless

>>509174350
i own a couple of contemporary pieces from the 60s to now and except for one collage/colour study from the 60s, most is pompous shite. some is decorative and 'the nose' (62) by c.oldenburg is kinda funny as well as one miró drawing of a family with cat. nothing of it can really be called art. to me it's interior decoration. wouldn't mind some hitler architecture painting desu, mainly cause it's by hitler though. the stuff i'd consider art is not affordable to me. caspar david friedrich for instance or dürer. someone i know is into all that degenerative shit from 20s to 40s and it's literally repulsive. guy who made picrel is now a professor at a renowned art school and making a shitload of dough for being present one day per week. yeah, art.

>>509159520
Marcel Duchamp did the urinal

>>509166775
That artist notoriously duck taped his dealer to a wall back in the 90’s and his art deals a lot with jokes, puns, and humor
And the banana is referencing that
He kind of like Banksy but less political on the nose
He also made this
pic related
I don’t perticulerly like ether but there’s some context

>>509176056
Its garbage and even Hitler would agree if you could only ask him, im 100% sure of it. Im not even mindlessly hating.

>>509165142
/pol/cels are all about DEI hires when it comes to Hitler going to art school lmao

>>509176189
Context doesn't make it art or good.
Art is an expression of a humans skill, that is all. If no skill was required to create it, its not art. A monkey could tape a banana to a wall.

>>509176281
Except the argument is that his art is objectively better than the kike slop that was being produced at the school. And thats correct. Badly made paintings of obese people fucking are not art.

>>509157786 (OP)
It will work in the late 1800s but this style of art is outdated that’s why he was recommended to chose architect instead. Just like modern day art why work something that would take 1 week to draw a high quality art from 2000s when you can just use ai slip to do it for you plus it’s free

>>509176397
Clearly it's not objective if he couldn't make it in.

>>509165142
>That isn't supposed to be photorealistic.
>I wasn't *trying* to make it look good
god, fuck off
photorealistic art is the only good art
anyone can do cubism, pointillism or impressionist shit

>>509174367
Churchill was opposed to the jews being moved to Palestine. Churchill had spent a lot of time in Palestine and envisioned it as being a place for British Plantations and estates for the wealthy. He did not want stinky poor european jews in his precious Palestine. Hitler had ships bearing the Israeli flag transporting jews to Palestine by the thousands. Churchill declared war on Germany and ordered the British navy to sink those ships, and they did. Britain killed 10s of thousands of Jews in the Atlantic, and Mediterranean.
King Charles' Grandmother is buried in Palestine

The SS testified "If Adolf Hitler had ordered us to kill jews, there would be none alive today. Hitler was relocating them to Palestine, and the Palestinians welcomed them. It was Britain that was the troublemaker. Jews were rounded up, to be shipped out, they were not killed on sight.

>>509176189
No one ever heard a joke so good they decided to pay the comedian 1.5 million for it.

>>509176456
AI cannot pain't and you'd be surprised how alive photorealistic portrait (of fantasy settings) commissioning still is. we're living in jewish times. have been for a while, with the brief interruption of 12 years. art from that brief period is suppressed and hard to find. jew fears it.

>>509162004
Nice thumbnail kike. Maybe before you try arguing learn how to save a fucking image.

>>509176792
>AI cannot pain't and you'd be surprised how alive photorealistic portrait (of fantasy settings) commissioning still is.
Yeah, but it's perfectly fine at producing mediocre cartoon porn for coomers which is why the only people bitching about AI are deviantart fags who will be out of a job when open source uncensored AIs put them out work and they have to go apply to wendy's LOL

>>509176520
The people deciding who get in were degenerate kikes, retard.

>>509168282
Why is the argument always a zero sum game?
You can enjoy all kinds of art but just recreating nature (mediocrely) isn’t really that impressive after Vermeer, Velasquez, Rembrandt etc already mastered it in the 1600’s
You have to bring something to the table
Art is entertainment
People want different art experiences

>>509176456
Art does not become outdated

>>509157786 (OP)
It's an expression of pure Aryan spirit

>>509175897
Yeah, absolute trash mastery in light color management.

Meanwhile your paintings always turn out brown as shit for some reason no matter how much you try. I feel ya fintard

>>509176792
Why do you guys value "photorealism" so much? Reality is often mundane and dull. The point of art is sex up reality and see it through a lense of symbolism that has meaning to human beings. "Photorealism" is just sterile and souless.

Why do ratbird comics make people seeth?

>>509176985
ah, well. true. none of the rich fags who decorate their villas with portraits of themselves would want an AI version though. it's a system of circlejerk in which all protagonists pat each other on their respective shoulders. it's disgusting.

>>509174496
Meds

>>509177114
i don't. just saying it's a fad. can't show one for reasons but believe me it's ugly. imagine a fag stretched out on a red velvet sofa, wearing nothing but a lepard gown. 2m wide.

>>509176309
>Context doesn't make art or good
I literally said I never really liked his art but other people do and in the 90’s that was really different so it stood out

>>509174678
Picasso was a manlet, standing 5'4" in his prime.

A reporter went to interview him at his home in his later years, when he was married to a woman 40+ years younger than he was.

During the interview, the wife came into the house with one of her lovers, and started having sex, right in front of Picasso, and the reporter, ignoring them entirely.

The reporter was appalled, and asked Picasso why he tolerated such a thing.
Picasso, replied "I'd rather have 10% of a growing concern, than 100% of a bankruptcy"

Making him the the biggest cuck that ever lived. Allowing his wife to sleep with 9 other men indiscreetly. He wasn't poor, and she was his 4th wife, so he was no stranger to being divorced. Picasso was a pathetic loser.

>>509176672
>Hitler had ships bearing the Israeli flag
Wrong
>transporting jews to Palestine by the thousands
Yes, thousands. Of millions of jews that existed in Europe. Thats literally nothing and inconsequential to Palestine, that already had a jewish population for thousands of years.
The jews moved there obtained zero power. They were not allowed to become part of the government over there.
Who gives a shit what Churchill wanted, he was a real subhuman. A complete servant of international jewry, don't try to act like he had anything against jews. He knowingly served them.
>The SS testified "If Adolf Hitler had ordered us to kill jews, there would be none alive today. Hitler was relocating them to Palestine, and the Palestinians welcomed them. It was Britain that was the troublemaker. Jews were rounded up, to be shipped out, they were not killed on sight.
The point of saying this was to not be executed by the kangaroo court of the jew servant nations like your country. Why are you coping so hard with it? Its an objective fact that your country and Britain were willing, intentional servants of international jewry and started the war in order to destroy rebellion against jewry, and in order to further the jews goal of a world government.

>>509165479
Pretentious European mindset. Change your flag Euro cocksucker.

"It only took me a few years to learn to paint like a master, but it took me a lifetime to learn to paint like a child." - Pablo Picasso.

>>509177101
memeflag = kike

>>509177114
also, photorealism doesn't mean reality. it just looks very realistic. there are a few interesting current artists though. problem really is 'schools' which tend to be very jewish and deform their students to an extent where their works can be classified by 'school'.

>>509176719
Do you think Michelangelo’s David is worth a million dollars?
It’s just a chunk of stone

>>509157786 (OP)
its not art, no one can see who made this. it has no style of its own. its a simple illustration and unfortunately hitler wasn smart enough to understand that he should have become an illustrator. instead he raged like a maniac when they turned him down at renown art schools.

he cant deliver art. thats just how it is. idiots will cope about this very fact but it just makes you look like an idiot. this is how the art industry works, an illustrator goes to an illustrator school not an art school. this is on ah himself.

>>509177021
>enjoyment=novelty

That doesn't seem right. Well-worn tropes in storytelling are loved precisely because they fulfill expectations. The idea that art must be transgressive or boundary-breaking in order to be "legitimate" seems like a self-serving argument from counterculturalists. A beautiful view reproduced faithfully is still beautiful whether it's 1625 or 2025. Jaded over-consooming critics and art historians are arguably too spoiled by abundance to appreciate real beauty.

>>509175062
>The banana is genuinely good artwork
God, the creator, is indeed talented.

Google search "exotic fruit" and you'll see more of his works.

>>509177886
>photorealism
Was new and popular in the late 60’s and 70’s
Hitler wasn’t a photo realist

this is so bad, a stilleben weve seen 100 million times. why cant he come up with something fresh and new and have his own style. this is a fucking kids drawing. you do stuff like this when youre 10 years old as an artist and as far as i figured it out he was way above 20 when he did this. WAY TOO LATE, way too unenthusiastic about art. dont even understand the tiniest bit about art but wants to be an artist.

anyone worth his salt can see this right away but you dont because youre amateurs, you have no clue just like ah himself.

>>509178409
i didn't say that at all. and it's a fad again.

>>509173492

Sounds like you're upset.

>>509178160
But why should Art be confined in the gilded cage of beauty?

the professors probably started crying and laughing seeing this thats how bad it is applying at art schools with kids drawings (illustrations)
>uhh mein hitler did so awesome art
maybe even one of them send him a letter and begged him to become an illustrator but this dumb fuck maniac hitler was so full of himself like the lot of you 4trans posters that he didnt want to take reality as is.

thats tough luck. thank you for your attention on this matter.

>>509178565
>and it's a fad again
Meh

>>509177662
>Yes, thousands. Of millions of jews that existed in Europe.

Hitler was working with a tight budget, the jews had destroyed Germany in WWI and while Hitler was going a great job rebuilding, within the country, sanctions against Germany were problematic. They were shipping out jews as fast as they could, and compensating them for their property in Germany as they were processed (They didn't steal anything from the jews)

>>509178670
i had the opportunity to see this rafael painting in urbino a while ago. it just gets to you. it's a noble lady who had just lost her husband. a jpg cannot convey the kind of beauty.

>>509159803
I'm an artist. You are wrong. Photo realism is the highest form of art.

>>509162004
Why didn’t he use a ruler?

>>509177777
Checked

>>509178892
But it was made over 500 years ago
It’s a beautiful painting but if you had to eat the same food for 500 years it would be pretty uninspiring no?

>>509178670

Eh. Depictions of ugliness or infirmity can also be art in the same way that a faithful depiction of tragedy can be beautiful even though it's not agreeable. All I know is that I'd gladly feed Bartok and Shostakovich's ilk into a wood chipper, and I feel the same way about a lot of visual artists who fetishize ugliness and lack of meaning as an end in itself.

>>509162004
you're creating a typical jewish argument. nobody dropped this as the ultimate 'art' and picasso was a degenerate. well, some early works are technically fine and touching too. technically hitler could have become more of an artist. they were right in telling him to go for architecture though. and he did kinda.

>>509178897
>I'm an artist.
I have created, and posted over 50,000 images on 4chan plus gifs and video.. if you counted each frame were about a quarter million images.

>>509177612
Most artists are pathetic losers.

Most high skill people in general are pathetic losers.

Animals will only try as hard as they have to in order to get pussy. The same applies to humans.

>>509178897
Chuck Close is probably the most famous photo realist but he didn’t just slavishly copy photographs he incorporated other influences that were popular in the Art world at that time like process art, minimalism, and conceptualism that had nothing to with image making

>>509179110
nah, the whole duke palace in urbino is full of 15/16th century stuff and it's breathtaking. that said, they usually combine with some exhibition of modern stuff. when i was there it was Gio' Pomodoro. not bad.

>>509159232
I was just going to say this. You have to throw buckets of paint on a 100'x100' canvas for it to be considered art.

>>509179110
>if you had to eat the same food for 500 years it would be pretty uninspiring no?

Methuselah was the father of Lamech, and Lamech was the father of Noah. Methuselah lived 969 years, I don't know how many times he was married. Noah lived 950 a widower many times and had taken a new bride, just before the flood. It's possible that some marriage in the past lasted for 500 years, but none in recorded history that i'm aware of.

>>509179186
My point is art is as beauty subjective
Picasso made some really interesting things not everything was great but I wouldn’t call them beautiful

>>509158260
am i better or worse than hitler

>>509179691
good point, as the cost of production really is a characteristic in the jewed art system. it's neigh impossible for john doe to get started with large canvases and expensive paints.

courtesy of one of the most expensive current artists

>>509179630
Modernism was about establishing art that could stand on its own in relation to a photograph
The reason why artist painted portraits, historical scenes, landscapes, and still lifes is because photographs didn’t exist after the photograph began to become more common in the 1860’s you had Impressionism

>>509179939
>am i better or worse than hitler
Hitler was a saint.
your maker will judge you, it's not our place

>>509180213
and another by someone i do appreciate. pop art from the 60s though. equally expensive.

>>509157882
>16pbtid
Damn, schizophrenic gene theory really is true when it comes to you kikes

>>509157882
postcards can still have art on them

>>509180213
Your dogging Gerhard Richter?

>>509179110
>if you had to eat the same food for 500 years it would be pretty uninspiring no?

But none of us have actually eaten lobster thermidor every day for 500 years. Similarly, we're only capable of feeling disenchanted with technical mastery and peak realism because we're oversaturated with masterworks thanks to mass media/culture parading them under our noses from an artificially early age. And even so, most plebs don't have that level of overexposure. It's not that it isn't beautiful art, but that overabundance and the culture of critique has made it seem stale. It's an unnatural circumstance brought about solely by modern conveniences.

>>509180474
And it’s a woman lol

>>509159803
>Hitler lacked
What the fuck do you think Art school is for apologist?

>>509180399
interesting take, but landscapes of romantic period were laden with symbolism and far from realistic. arcadia is an idealised land with shepherds and ruins, made to meditate yourself into. impressionism was truly great. the trouble really started when the jewish century began.

>>509180662
no, he is a master. the recent stuff is not my cup of tea though.

>>509173333
You are brown and thus incapable of such understanding.

i've explained it before to understand why hitler's art was unaccepted was because the time he was in and the school he wanted to apply too

apparently they told him he should be an architect despite his perspective being somewhat skewed. so shows what the no draw know it all think. they don't even know what a cone of vision is

i'll try to abridge what i've said before since its a lot but essentially...
after french revolution romanticism came out of favor and was replaced by realism, a movement based around knowing the real lives of peasants and not entertaining nobles or embellishing real life

here's an example of romanticism

>>509168684
Seriously. Why couldn’t he have had some genius or creativity? One of my favorite artists is Jamie McCartney. The Wall of Vulva is truly a masterpiece.

This thread is the most depressing art discussion I've ever seen

>>509158820
i spent thousands of dollars to study abroad, there is along walk up and over the bridge to the lookout, i ditched my tour group and fucked a girl in the scullery, and then couldn't get home cuz the god damn Turkish cab driver couldn't understand German and I ended up sleeping in a train station in Magedeburg or Bamberg or some little dorf idfk.

5/10, only did it to stand where Hitler stood. other castles are better.

>>509157786 (OP)
bad perspective

>>509180916
now here's an example of realism. art made to show the gritty lives of average people
the idea of art not just being for nobles is becoming more in favor. then a long came the camera

>>509180726
yep, an anglo. one can speculate how wimin fame comes about. i like her work.

>>509169148
My 3 year old drew something very similar this past weekend

>>509181114
when the camera was invented it obviously changed the art world. but along came the import of japanese art which flew in the opposite direction as realism or whatever you could capture with the camera
leading to the impressionist movement.

>>509180683
Times change technology changes modern Art was a reaction to new technology paint tubes photographs etc
Life changed massively in the last 200 years compared to 1400-1800
Art always delt with the time people lived and the best art reflects that time and what people cared about then on a cultural level the renaissance and after it was about recapturing that lost connection to the hight of ancient classicism and their mastery of realism and esthetics

>>509181282
based hokusai knower. traditional Ukiyo-e japanese art generally fascinating.

>>509180876
>he is a master.
that old saying "he couldn't draw a straight line..." must have cut pretty deeply when he was a child. dedicated his life to proving them wrong.

>>509181282
the impressionists were basically the first weeaboos
at first the academies resisted towards artists making their own rules but the impressionists and then the post impressionists celebrate the idea of art being used to express yourself. the idea of what an artist seeing as being just as important as the subject was being more celebrated

although the impressionists still very much had an influence of academic training

>>509181377
>Life changed massively in the last 200 years compared to 1400-1800
>Art always delt with the time people lived and the best art reflects that time and what people cared about

No disagreement with regard to high art, but I also think our technological advancement has exceeded our grug adaptability. We've reached a point where modern tech and modern art alike have become antihuman. I don't believe this degree of "progress" is sustainable or perpetuable.

>>509181377
some expressionism was commissioned portraits and the people who'd commission were the same as the ones who do so today. it all started going to shit with jews gaining the upper hand.

>>509181557
as you get to the post-impressionists the idea of traditional academic training was less and less valued. van gogh was self taught even

>>509180822
My point is artists lost their monopoly on representation so if you were going to make money from art you had to get creative something photography was not perticulerly suited to
The romantic period predates the proliferation of photography
I mean I get it I understand why a lot people think a lot of modern/contemporary art is bull shit
a lot of it is but there is a lot of good interesting stuff as well

>>509181899
and then that brings us to egon schiele
very much the result of the movements behind him
someone trying to capture the grittiness of reality and also making an impression of it
by his time in school i imagine his teachers didn't want to be like the ones who rejected impressionism so they celebrated this kind of art

>>509181899
van gogh was not self taught, you have no fucking idea what you are talking about, respectfully

>>509181557
what a joy to look at. pity this isn't done anymore.

>>509182109
his era was that of the expressionists
with all this in mind is it any surprise hitler's art was rejected? and its not because his perspective was a little off. they didn't give a shit about that

>>509180876
Richter made all kinds of shit and those paintings where based on some of his abstract paintings that were digitally “smeared” for lack of a better word
They are also a lot harder to paint than they look
painting many hundreds of straight lines with a feathers edge is not easy

>>509182240
not entirely but mostly

>>509182077
i have to disagree. photography in its infancy was limited to very small prints and rarely would these be artistic depictions. portraits mostly. painting always needed some kind of financial support, something that the jews picked up on to appear as benefactors of society. and for business ofc. now we heavily subsidise mystery meat artists without being asked. local art school rarely has a german name appear in diploma exhibitions.

>>509180994
We aren’t talking about water stains on corrugated tin hovering over breeze block
walls no

Want to understand perspective and eye level?
Look at pic related and notice the "frame"
Eye level /camera level is parallel to the top and bottom. Vanishing point of lines converging despite all being horizontal bricks.

>>509182457
he actually uses soe kind of teethed spatula for these. the art in this is to achieve the desired colour composition. which he does by first applying paint, then spatulating it with the help of some contraption. the result is still art in my view. just not my thing.

>>509181132
Bridget’s fame came from being a woman not because her art was perticulerly innovative as op art had already been established before she began practicing
As many a wayman
They have cunted up art but don’t get me started on that

>>509167769
his biggest critics love vulgarity
really jogs the nog

we've all been juden rugged on history

>>509173396
>This image mogs anything Hitler ever did.
No it doesn't. It looks like garbage and you should kill yourself.

>>509182647
don't go there
flat earthers will attack accusing you of using a fish-eye
they will pull out their ruler, and say you don't understand perspective. especially those with STEM degrees

>>509182863
yes, i was implying that possibility. gallerist i know, had a mixed exhibition while ago titled 'women can't paint'. all female artists, maybe 30 in total. maybe two good and innovative ones among them.

i always enjoy the 'hitler the artist' posts, as silly as they may be. many a failed artist have tried to get into art school, including myself. kek. art is what elevates your spirit. don't believe any other jewish definition of 'has to deal with current society and blabla'. all bullshit and uglyness. you know something is good when you see it and it touches some string inside. off to bed. thanks for the thread.

>>509168282
I once downloaded this opera house to put in my Sims 4 game. "Where have I seen this before", I asked myself. The answer, as is often the case, was Hitler

>>509157786 (OP)
the perspective is fucked, looks like something from a fairly advanced child or someone from the 1200s, aka, amateur shit.

>>509181485
Gerhard Richter was a pioneer of photorealism in the early 60’s but he was interested in exploring and experimenting with painting because at the time the trend was painting was dead as an art of innovation so he created many different kinds of work both representational and nonobjective
those paintings were actually made from photographs that were digitally stretched to the point they just became color lines
And then he painted them like he would any other photograph

>>509173957
>Music isn't a form of art.
this is a baby brained statement of someone who is likely tone deaf or maybe just deaf.

>>509183019
Expression, control, variance, line, palette, invention, etc.
Hitler's paintings aren't memorable. Art can't be viewed via a screen though.

>>509181831
>We've reached a point where modern tech and modern art alike have become antihuman
Perhaps but people a hundred years from now may feel differently
Some People didn’t like Michelangelo

>>509183820
Music isn't a form of art like painting, calligraphy, assemblage, textiles and on and on.
I play and record all the time, always have.

>>509181844
Expressionism strayed from the classical canon and while representational
The focus was on expression not on depiction

>>509183998
>Music isn't a form of art
How? You have just stated that it is not with no supporting argument.

>>509162004
>He had no solid grasp of perspective or lighting yet
Art does not have to be realistic.

>>509157786 (OP)
I work construction and we have a joke in my team. If you put a pencil up your ass and smear it onto canvas it is art. But only as long as nobody finds out, you are a bricklayer.

>>509183972

Perhaps, but I think the TFR of modern Western countries as compared to that of Michelangelo's time supports my argument very well.

>>509182571
photography wasn’t in its infancy
In the 1860’s and things didn’t change overnight
the people that could see that it was going to change the game made waves ie the impressionist doubling down on color because photographs couldn’t compete

>>509182699
>spatula
Yeah for some paintings it’s more of like a big length of plexiglass that’s attached to a wood board it’s more like a big squeegee lol

>>509184632
Well we will never know things go in and out of fashion

>>509159232
>At the very least art is something new conceptually.
lol, lmao even. There is now such things as a conceptually “new” thing. Only God has ever created things without reference to something that already exists.

iseCIf1M Fragonard is not Romanticism.
You don't know shit about romanticism do you.

>>509157882
Impressive, now let's see your art