Recently I've been watching these "if English had Chinese grammar" videos. If there's any accuracy to them then Chinese is the dumbest fucking language ever. It's literal caveman talk. They seriously walk around like "I no hungry, I eat morning, belly full". By contrast, their written language is a complete cluster fuck, you have to memorize 50,000 characters because it never occurred to anyone in Chinese history that it would be much simpler to just have characters represent sounds instead of words. I don't know how these people even invented the wheel.

>>509163880 (OP)
they were thinking about an aspirational eye shape.

>>509163880 (OP)
actually its very smart.

>its difficult to understand for other cultures which means less migration from them
now today china is a superpower without niggers and kike language tricks dont work on them.
china won.

You know what’s funny about that? Kanji is literally the closest language in the world to cave drawings. Chinks literally communicate with pictures and symbols rather than words and sounds.

>>509163880 (OP)
I love chinks. They never bother white people. They make stuff for us, nowadays with pretty decent quality. They never ask for gibsmedats. They're biologically capable of having high IQ. They are descendants of a very ancient civilization. They don't act like attention whores. Sure they have their excesses, like horrible animal mistreatment and an often heartless lack of empathy, but their flaws aren't necessarily any worse than ours. We literally cut childrens dicks off and produce all kinds of sick porn.

>>509164984
its possible to read chinese and not speak it because their alphabet is more like ancient egyptian hieroglpyphics than an actual alphabet

>>509165067
>They never bother white people.
chinks hate white people and always vote against white interest

>>509164984
I noticed when I was using Google translate to tell a massage parlor girl to piss in my mouth, the Chinese character for "urinate" literally looks like fluid splashing in a bowl. That's when I knew something was wrong.

anglotard speaking a nonphonetic language is not a superior position by any means

>>509165067
Chinese tourists are notorious all over the world for bad behavior.

>East Asians
>rote memorizing thousands of symbols
>at no point did anyone think "there's a better way to do this"
Checks out...

>>509163880 (OP)
>I no hungry, I eat morning, belly full
What's wrong with that? That's the same as english grammar except all the filler connecting words are removed. It's simple and efficient.

You want a clusterfuck? Japanese grammar is 1000 times worse/harder than Chinese.

>>509165250
"tourist" is unnecessary there

>>509163880 (OP)
it operates by inferences, yes phonetical script is more advanced than gook runes

>>509165593
If you call for a "firetruck" in Chinese you might get a truck that starts fires, or a truck that is on fire.

>>509165229
>worlds biggest joke language defending the second biggest joke language
Seethe more faggot

>>509164984
>>509163880 (OP)
>their written language is a complete cluster fuck, you have to memorize 50,000 characters because it never occurred to anyone in Chinese history that it would be much simpler to just have characters represent sounds instead of words
It's efficient. Takes longer to write, especially trad characters, but it's faster to read once you learn them since recognition is near instant and a given piece of information usually takes fewer characters, maybe 1/3 as many (if not for the ordering of the unicode table, translating to Chinese could be used as lossy compression). Most things are written once and read many times so it makes sense to optimise for reading. Now, with phonetic digital writing systems like pinyin, you get the benefit of fast writing and retain the fast reading.

>>509165203
Wtf kek

>>509164984
>Kanji is literally the closest language in the world to cave drawings.

Kanji is literally stylizised cartoon emoticons.

>>509165850
lets go for the mad max one

>>509163880 (OP)
Mandarin is an IQ filter

I love Japanese. It's the sike out language.
>I library went....NOT!
>That was delicious....not
Like wtf is with putting the negative at the very end of the phrase like come on you slant eyes.

>>509163880 (OP)
It’s a pretty ancient language, can’t hate it too hard if it’s survived all the this time

>>509166142
Chunks aren't smart. Mega myth.

>>509163880 (OP)
>Don't hang dead on one tree.
>You now have whole forest!

>>509166245
And the nigger,?

>>509166142
Yes, it filters out the IQ and turns it into gutter oil.

>>509164984
The letters you wrote your post with are stylized cuneiform drawings

>>509165203
kek how did the rest of your evening go after this point?

What is the chinese character for beat and kill and eat a dog?

>>509166186
thats why they are so good at paying attention

OP is and uncultured swine who doesn't understand they wanted to make an alphabet of art.

>>509164984
>>509165203
it's pretty funny

>>509166308
What are you talking about

>>509166362
Wait a minute...

>>509165164
I doubt they even vote here.

>>509165250
I work in an industry where the customers are maybe 50% tourists, chinks are always respectful. Brazilians seem to be the worst.

>>509163880 (OP)
>It's literal caveman talk
Basically. If you can get past the tones and the written language then it's probably the simplest language in the world.
>it would be much simpler to just have characters represent sounds instead of words
Also results in a lot of fragmentation of the language. There are almost 100 dialects of Chinese that are almost different languages except for the common grammar and written language, but if you speak Cantonese to a Mandarin speaker you might as well be speaking Spanish.

>>509166362

>>509166451
It's survived longer than Chinese, it's not hard to figure out what he meant

>>509166432
No fuckin way that's real

>>509166545

>>509166528
They got this alphabet from China, so yeah, same deal.

>>509166326
I got to drink some "peepee" as they always say. Apparently every single Chinese-english class uses the word "peepee". That's what the massage parlor girls always say.

>>509163880 (OP)
yeah.

>>509166341
>This suit is black not.
You know what a pause is?

>>509163880 (OP)
Chinese is by far the stupidest, ugliest language in the world. I can't think of another language that is as universally ridiculed as Chinese. Go to any country in the world and say "ching chong" and they will instantly know you're talking about China. Imagine a language that can be reduced to two fucking sounds "ching chong" kek. There is no other language like that in the world. Chinese is what I imagine cockroaches sound like when they reproduce.

>>509166541
The grammar was weird

>>509164691
>now today china is a superpower
They literally had thousands of years head start on Europe and couldn't become a superpower until White handed them jobs and technology.

>>509166545
The language sephardic kikes speak is called "ladino" in spanish, which means "scheming" with a negative connotation.

>>509166520
ived worked in luxury tourism and chinks are by far the absolute worst people to deal with
they're extremely rude, sententious as fuck (despite being fucking retarded) and when they fuck something up it was your fault
and they fucking spit everywhere for some goddamn reason
all other east asians are amazing

>>509166866
Chinese sounds extremely terse. Chinese people sound like they are angry and in a hurry. A running gag in western comedy going back decades is to merely introduce an otherwise normal Chinese character and have him alienate people by coming off as a dick.

>>509164984
They don't really look at the kanji as pictures. It's like alphabets in English to them.

>>509166866
Ooga booga is all of africa

>>509166866
You say "Yall", do proceed to stfu niggerloverkneeling sharterican.

>>509166953
>couldn't become a superpower
They didn't want to colonise the Philippines like you did. They left them alone.
They didn't colonise Indonesia, nor did they colonise India or Africa.

Taking others' land and controlling other's governments is a European/Jewish concept.
You shouldn't criticise them for being less jewish than you.

>>509165593
>Japanese grammar is 1000 times worse/harder than Chinese.
how so?
it seems fairly simple.
i don't know any chinese though so i can't actually compare them to each other.
i think learning chinese kanji would be more of a pain though.

>>509166866
>Chinese is by far the stupidest, ugliest language in the world.

Nah. It's comedy gold. So is China.
Personally, I like Shanghai a lot.
Bejing sucks, commies can have it.
HK should go back to Human-Rule, the bugs are ruining it.
Hong Kong also has the best-sounding dialect.

>>509167263
>colonize
Because their own colon was iced by most of neighboring nations and people

>>509166866
I can think of a few that sound just as bad, but Chinese (Mandarin) sounds the most soulless. The Chinese know how bad their language sounds, so pointing it out is extremely triggering to them kek.

>>509163880 (OP)
Post her nudes

>>509167221
African languages all sound like they are about to stab you. But at least they sound manly and possessing of human emotional range, unlike Chinese and Indian which just sounds like browbeaten slave murderings.

>>509167263
scandis gave europe blue water faring ship designs, chinks never got off the coast hugging phase

the muslim explorer with his keel less barges following muslim trade routes sunk near the african coast

>>509167502
german is all hitler screaming lol

>>509165587
I think a phonetic alphabet is a pretty hard thing to invent. I mean think about it, it's quite natural to use images and hieroglyphics to represent things. And oral language is also quite common, and obvious.

But to make the symbols represent the sounds rather than the things themselves, would mean you are encoding an already encoded thing. It's quite an abstract thing to do.

>>509167263
>didnt want to
its more they never could project power because their military has always sucked

>>509167394
>Personally, I like Shanghai a lot.
>Bejing sucks
Translation:
We have alot of CIA assets in Shanghai,
we can't control beijing,

>HK should go back to Human-Rule, the bugs are ruining it.
Translation:
Losing HK killed a lot off out profits, this is a danger to democrazy

>>509163880 (OP)
Chinese (and also Japanese) are just straight up less evolved languages. They are the primitive gruntings of medieval people, though frankly that does no justice to medieval Europe.

Korean has some positives as it is an intelligently designed language made for people to understand but it still lacks the nuance of English.

There is a reason these apes struggle to learn and speak English.

>>509167244

>>509167244
OI BRUV YOU 'AVE THE DUMBEST DIALECTS IN THE ANGLOSPHERE INNIT GUV SWEAR ON ME MUM ROADMAN

I want to make every single brit read a sentence filled with words starting with H, and the moment they miss one they get shot.
Fortunately this should bring about the extermination of the English entirely.

>>509167244
Ching chong.

>>509163880 (OP)
>simpler to just have characters represent sounds
Chinese characters already represent sounds THOUGH. semantically, Chinese characters fall into roughly four classes:

象形 "heiroglyph" (i.e. literal pictogram, like 大 representing a person with their limbs extended)
指事 "indicative" (i.e. logical representation of an abstract idea, like 上 meaning up and 下 meaning down)
会意 "compound meaning" (i.e. composing ideographs to represent an idea's overall semantics, like 峠 "mountain pass" being "mountain + up + down")
形声 "phonosemantic" (i.e. composing two ideographs, one for sound and the other for semantics, like 船 (left side is semantics, right side is sound))

>>509165850
>消防車
>extinguish prevent car
I don't see it. 消防 itself is a contraction of the fact that firefighting is "extinguishing" fires and "preventing" fires from spreading.

>>509166186
Latin is also an SOV language. Starting your speech from the conclusion is nigger-coded.

>>509167694
>There is a reason these apes struggle to learn and speak English
lol try to learn Chinese and see how much you struggle. Oh I guess that means you're primitive! Retard logic

Chinese people are always yelling at each other when speaking Mandarin. The language seems cursed.

>>509167502
>Indian
India has many different languages

>>509167142
I have heard these things on the internet but never witnessed them myself.

>>509166186
you would usually know if a word is incomplete though in these instances.
>私は図書館にいった
>私は図書館にいかなかった
>私は図書館にい...かなった
so you would know to keep listening to find out what's going on.

>>509167505
>>509167569
Nah, they had no problems sailing all over Asia.

They just spent their efforts on trade and commerce rather than robbery and plunder. That's a european thing.
Even this day today, the situation is the same. China can easily kill Africans and West-asians like you guys do, but they don't have it coded into DNA to the degree you do.

>>509167694
>Korean has some positives as it is an intelligently designed language
They used Chinese letters up until very recently (and they still use it for names in official forms). The vast majority of words in Korean are Chinese loanwords. Their language's syntax and grammar is so similar to Japanese that you can just substitute kanji with the letter's pronunciation in hangul and have natural-sounding Korean.

You have no clue what you're talking about.

>>509167694
one advantage the latin alphabet has is that they streamlined it to carve into stone, this allowed later for printing (which slants never had a chance to do)

my theory is that slant languages evolved around the availabillity of bamboo and ink which never forced them to optimize based on line simplicity and strokes, papyrus was rare and expensive on top rome was stone and marble instead of wood

arab script evolved around being able to draw it into sand?

>>509167694
I just can't imagine what Chinese standup comedy must be like.

> Morning hear knock
> Go see who is
> No man
> Hear knock two time
> Go see who is hurry
> Only wind
> Ching chong

>>509167944
This is just made up nonsense. China has colonies its just they broke away so long ago. They literally forcibly annexed Tibet in living memory lmao.

>>509167944
the biggest chinese explorer was a muslim eunuch following muslim coast hugging trade routes

asian ship designs were trash, med nigger ones too, snow nigger ship designs gave europe the first scalable blue water navies in the world

>>509167966
Chinese language is better in some ways, worse in others. The written language is much more compact. You can express more information in less space. A downside is you can't tell how a word ought to be pronounced by just looking at the character, but in truth English spellings can also be quite misleading.

>>509163880 (OP)
>I don't know how these people even invented the wheel.
They didn't. They just copied it from us. Also,
>these people
They're not people.

>>509168127
the only way it might be better it is that it gatekeeps literacy harder which might have compounding beneficiary selective effects but that is speculative

the moon runes did lock them out of book writing which wrecked them

>>509164984
OK weeb

>>509163880 (OP)
Every single sound literally has four unrelated meanings based on context and tiny shifts in emphasis anon, cope all you want but it's very far from caveman talk. It has a completely different structure from what you understand as language

>>509164984
TikTok is their visual pilpul, the Jews are flummoxed

>>509163880 (OP)
>it never occurred to anyone in Chinese history that it would be much simpler to just have characters represent sounds instead of words
i seriosly doubt that's possible
they'd have to change the whole language entirely
and the characters seem like the easy part
you know that mandarin and cantonese are written the same

>>509167966
>rome was stone and marble instead of wood

Started with the Phoenicians. They traded all over the Med Basin and simplified all the local languages into sound-symbols so they could make their own dictionaries and language guides.

>>509167797
Then maybe a car will show up and prevent the fire from being extinguished.

>>509168076
>They literally forcibly annexed Tibet in living memory
Nah, YOU annexed Tibet.
China freed their people from you.

This event was so embarrassing to you that your govnrmnt brainwashed you all into thinking the Chinese were the criminals, instead of you yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85PvPUNyOBw

It's a form of defense isn't it?
By accusing the Chinese for your crimes, you distract poeople away from your crimes.
Very high IQ anglokike genetics.

>>509168127
English is retarded with spelling but it somehow manages to be better than French. The fact "spelling bees" are competitive at all shows there are massive deficiencies in the English (and French) language. Germany doesn't have the concept of a spelling bee precisely because their language has virtually zero homophones and every letter maps to exactly one sound.

I would argue German is the most optimized language for human speech, but suffers from low information density in writing. Chinese is basically the polar opposite: countless homophones but its writing also has the highest information density out of any modern human language.

>>509168258
It's fucking "hulk smash" language

>>509168258
yes it is hyper inefficient and locked them out of printing books at scale
chinks got cut off the tech tree primary by not having scalable blue water ship designs which europe got from snow niggers
and by being able to exploit bamboo for writing I suspect which never forced them to optimize their glyphs

>>509168430
is it high information density if you have to infer everything?

>>509168321
>they'd have to change the whole language entirely

That's why there are more English speakers in China than the entire west.
Chinese is so tonal that there is an entire channel of communication that other languages barely use.

>>509163880 (OP)
Could be worse; it could be Russian where there's no absolute rules for sentence structure and everything can be thrown in in any order as long as its conjugated accordingly (which basically means you can't interpret a sentence until you have all the pieces unlike most languages with strict sentence structure where your brain can usually start piecing together context and information as the sentence unfolds).

Imagine trying to convince someone that
>Anon typed this sentence at the end of their post
and
>Post anon their end of sentence typed this at the
Were the same

>>509168106
It doesn't matter Kraut. The Chinese behavior today is the same as Chinese from 2000 years ago.
They trade
You plunder

It's a DNA thing. You also do the same viking plunder tours in west asia today.

>>509168384
that would be "prevent extinguish car" not "extinguish prevent car" :^)

>>509164984
why does China get shit for their writing system but Japan never does? they're the same characters, they have to memorise them all the same

>>509168580
You don't have to infer the meanings of the words, idiot.
It's the same as any other language. You still need to memorize the meanings if words in any language.

>>509168430
The thing is with English the spelling doesn't matter. Yoo kan fuk uhp da zpeling as much as possible and people can still easily understand you, they'll just make fun of you. If you merely understand the sounds represented by the 26 characters then you can automatically write well enough to convey an idea just with that alone.

>>509168387
Ah yes, the Canadian province of Tibet.

>>509167957
>very recently
>more than 500 years ago

>>509168640
ok mongoloid

>>509165067
>We literally cut childrens dicks off and produce all kinds of sick porn.
that's jews

>>509168765
Canadians are brittrogs. Same shit.

>>509163880 (OP)
Mandarin Chinese is actually the most informationay dense language in the world. If two people spoke at same speed saying the same thing the chinese speaking one would finish his sentence faster

>>509167263
The literal history of China says they kept killing and conqueroring neighboring tribes then would get their shit pushed in by much smaller nations.

>>509168862
offering princesses as tribute to barbarian as well for centuries

>>509168715
Chinese think we're stupid because we don't call a ceiling fan a "spinny room cool" or something.

>>509168862
Disagreements within their own country is normal.
UK also had tribes fighting for supremacy.
Their race just don't have it as extreme as you.

>>509166953
China has been economically superior to the west for most of recorded history

Wasnt until the opium wars that changed

>>509168844
>Canadians are brittrogs. Same shit.

Different Dominion, Same Empire.

Anyway, when the Pronouns-in-Bios thing kicked off at work I went back to Latin for the keks.

My Pronouns? Here, take this card for reference.

>>509168756
But that's not what people do unless they're 6 years old. They make maybe 1 spelling mistake out of 50 words or so.

>>509168611
Every language except English is just pure derp babble

>>509169011
>literal endless wars and genocides
>its ok because I say so
get fucked. Find me an example of a European city eating literally thousands of their children fucking chink retard.

>>509169057
europe stands and does so alone on blue water scalable ship designs an book production
everybody else failed to cross those fermi paradox filters, speculative for further developments down the road

>>509168859
>Mandarin Chinese is actually the most informationay dense language in the world.
Written Chinese is dense, spoken Chinese less so. The tradeoff is that logographic languages require rote memorization of many, many, many, MANY symbols to read, write, and understand it.

>>509166319
Do you not understand that our alphabet refers to sounds and those sounds during together form words and phrases which may or may not include concepts whereas the Chinese is just symbols referring to concepts. In English, every word refers to some thing. In Chinese every symbol refers to an entire concept that can imply a whole slew things. It’s literally caveman babble.

>>509168664
Japanese at least has an escape hatch (phonetic alphabets). Chinese never had one and they instead had to import roman letters and invent pinyin.

Historically, they did have a method of correlating pronunciation of letters starting from a small "bootstrap set" of letters (see 反切 fanqie). But this wasn't really used and most mainland Chinese unironically believe that pinyin was the first phonetic system.

>>509168794
Here's a Korean newspaper from 60 years ago.

>>509168664
Because Japan basically had Chinese pushed on them and 30% of their language is just English at this point.

>>509168921
How is "ceiling fan" any different, retard? Ceiling + fan. In chinese the prefixes and suffixes are just separate characters which you're too stupid to realize doesn't mean they're separate words

>>509169095
Most of the Western European languages have fairly rigorous rules for sentence structure, conjugation, and grammar. They all have exceptions, of course (all languages do), but a lot of Eastern European, Asian, and African languages are just fucking nonsense.

>>509169095

English is the tongue of inbred Saxons.

>>509168918
>offering princesses as tribute to barbarian
Europeans monarchs also marri their daughters away for political gain, or to prevent wars.
It's nothing new.
>>509169109
>literal endless wars and genocides
That's still you, anglomutt. It's coded into your DNA
It's why /pol/ daydreams about world wars and the Chinese daydream about new export markets.

>>509169290
They don't have actual words for anything invented after the 1700s. Half their language sounds like a five year old just making shit up.

>>509169336
>speaks degenerated roman slang
Your shit is practically ebonics

>>509165972
> chink cope
It’s not efficient. English is efficient. That’s why it’s a language of poetry and science. Chinese is the closest living language to caveman drawings. Every symbol can refer to an entire concept. English much be approached poetically or formulaically and for that reason it can be highly process and communication made impactful and efficient. In Chinese, any one symbol can refer to anything and understanding the true meaning depends on the particularities of tone, context, all sorts of things. A character can mean studying for an exam or it can mean running off a cliff. It leaves so much room for error.

>>509169317
European languages have no shortage of bullshit. English proves that gendered nouns is pure nonsense just for starters.

>>509169057
>China has been economically superior to the west for most of recorded history

Not historically true. Waxed and waned over the centuries depending on what was going on with internal politics. Bugs breed fast so a massive population loss could be made-up pretty quick.

When the greatest Drug Dealers in the history of Mankind showed up with a navy they got cucked for a solid 150 years.

Surprised so few people are able to link 'The Century of Shame' with modern Chinese policies.

>>509169359
they gave away hundreds of princesses away to barbarians as harem fucktoys
chinese can not get over psychological to be inferior in military power to a people who do not even build houses it is a deep seated civilization scale trauma

>>509166432
Don’t look up the word for wife
> it literally contains the symbols for little girl

>>509169359
>counts battles not wars or total deaths
yes, the two world wars and Napoleonic wars gonna inflate that metric. Meanwhile the CCP killed more people than all three wars combined in living memory

>>509169081
I was proving a point that the biggest criticism of English is actually trivial in practice.

>>509164984
Nigga, you're doing that literally right now.

>>509169057
lmao

>>509169480
century of shame started when they were too retarded to, out of pride, trade british tech for tea which was offered

pure retarded rape and revenge narrative to cover for their monarch being retarded and prideful

further it is not a shame to lose to europe when we had a breakaway civilization so advanced that everybody could be brought to heel if we had united

>>509169503
>they gave away hundreds
Probably a low cost to save many lives.
If their armies are weak, this is a valid approach.

>>509169564
>Meanwhile the CCP killed more people than all three wars combined in living memory
Nah, they just burnt your opium farms and had record levels of grain prouction and grew to 1,4 billion.

Your lies are unraveling, anglokike.

>>509169290
The average /pol/ poster is too young and retarded to know what morphemes are.

>They don't have actual words for anything invented after the 1700s.
All of the math and science books in China and Japan say otherwise. Unlike most Euro languages, they do not use loanwords for expressing mathematical or scientific concepts. e.g. 可換環 (commutative ring) or 赤方偏移 (redshift)

Japanese is the exception, where computer science terms now borrow from English, but even for computer science terminology, Chinese does not use loan words -- they create new words that capture the semantics of concepts. For instance, 編訳 refers to code compilation, and the letters give the semantics of "tie [text] together and translate". Japan uses コンパイル which is just an English loanword.

>>509169725
it became an institution, not low cost