Thread 509171961

Not even the company can stop you with its gay anti-gun policy.
Why? The Second Amendment
"the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. PERIOD. END OF STORY
No exceptions, no qualifiers

So open carry at the factory, at the office, at the coal mine.

when are you going to overthrow your tyrannical government with your gun

what a stupid amendment that turned out to be

>>509172147
The amendment isn't what is stupid. Our population is. Corn syrup'd into complacency. Chemically castrated. A nation of spiritual females.

>>509171961 (OP)
Nope. My property, my rules.
If you want to work at The Man Hole, you're only bringing in the gun God gave you...preferably a magnum, and minimally concealed.

>>509172147
kill yourself

>>509172411
Females are a hivemind. Politically, they get everything they want. We live in an utterly feminised demolition man society with easy abortion, open borders, catch and release, infinite gibs, hate speech laws and life-ruining alimony.

Where are the men doing anti-draft protests? Circumcision protests? Family law reform? They're nowhere to be found. Perhaps a nation of spiritual females would've gotten it done.

>>509172957
>Nope. My property, my rules.
That's not what the 2A says. It says "shall not be infringed" flat out.
No exceptions are mentioned in the amendment.

>>509171961 (OP)
>No exceptions, no qualifiers
There are, though. None of the constitutional guarantees are absolute.

>>509171961 (OP)
and when the supreme court declines to hear the case?
The fact is it can be/will be infringed.
The Supreme Court recently declined to hear two Second Amendment cases, effectively upholding lower court decisions that had upheld gun control laws in Maryland and Rhode Island. One case challenged Maryland's ban on semi-automatic rifles like the AR-15, and the other challenged Rhode Island's restriction on high-capacity magazines. The Supreme Court has a history of declining to hear cases related to the Second Amendment, and these recent decisions continue that trend, according to SCOTUSblog and AP News.
They have been able to circumvent the US Constitution for so many years without having Congress repeal the 2nd Amendment...why bother?

>>509171961 (OP)
>shall not be infringed
By the government.

>>509173698
What qualifiers are there in the 2A? Tell me

>>509173986
The Supreme Court is a kangaroo court and its authority is fading. Listen to the Constitution, not the bogus court.

>>509172411
>Corn syrup'd into complacency. Chemically castrated. A nation of spiritual females.

are you included? i assume you are using a vpn.

>>509174848
>>shall not be infringed
>By the government.
The Constitution, specifically the Second Amendment, does not say that.
It just says "shall not be infringed," which is a universal statement.

>>509171961 (OP)
Probably not a fantastic idea at the coal mine, but otherwise a laudable aim.

>>509175346
The constitution outlines what the government can and cannot do.

>>509171961 (OP)
Signing a contract that says you will abide by company policy can stop you. It is the businesses purview to allow open carry or even concealed carry on their premises.

I lost a job because I carried on location
Losing that job was the best thing ever

>>509175416
The 2A says "shall not be infringed"
A natural, universal, inalienable right cannot be signed away.

>>509175516
You anti-2A cowards need to take a lesson from this anon. He shows true bravery and commitment to principle.

>>509175831
>A natural, universal, inalienable right cannot be signed away.
Says who?

>>509175871
Says the Constitution and Declaration of Independence and the writings of the Founding Father, along with a whole tradition of Western thought predating them.

>>509171961 (OP)
Most employers have a no cause termination policy you signed before hiring on with them

>>509175871
For example, it's illegal to sign away your right to life. If you put in a contract that the other party gets to kill you, that contract is null and void.

>>509175996
My right to life includes my right to death.

>>509175942
No such thing as anything occurring without a cause. It is a logical impossibility and even unthinkable. Look up the Principle of Sufficient Reason.
What you mean is they can fire you without having to state the real cause.

>>509171961 (OP)
>Not even the company can stop you with its gay anti-gun policy.
Sure bro. Try to sue them when you get fired from work for coming at it armed.
Constitution is a lie.

>>509175871
Try reading a book.

>>509171961 (OP)
>>509175831
>muh constitution will protect me
its a piece of paper

>>509176031
Not in US law it doesn't.
Suicide is still illegal in many places, though no one prosecutes for it anymore.

>>509176042
You have no balls.
If you were a real freedom loving pirate, you'd shoot the motherfuckers who try to trample on your rights straight in the dome.

>>509171961 (OP)
I guess you could, a lot of employment is at will though, so the employer has the option to tell you to fuck off if he doesn’t like having a massive cunt with a lethal weapon in the office, once you’ve been shit canned for being an anti-social dipshit you might as well, heh, bite the bullet and shoot the place up right? Faggot.

>>509172147
Tell that to Talibans. They not inky defeated USA hut also made them flee and leave all their weapons behind.
All they had to do is kill one American soldier every 10 days .
If you start killing one us cop every 2 weeks your tyrannical government will fall apart in less than 10 years.

>>509176242
And then he fires a woman or a nigger and he goes to court

>>509176242
Why not shoot up the people who fuck you over for using your own rights?

>>509175831
Of course it can be contracted away. All contracts can be seen as abridgements of freedom in that they compel you to do or not do something in exchange for something else.

>>509176563
No, certain rights cannot be contracted away.
You cannot legal sell yourself into slavery, for example, in the US or in practically any other modern legal system.
Ask any lawyer. This is law 101 and you should already know this.

>>509176925
ahem law faggot here
All your illusional constitutional rights can be over ruled by a willing supreme court
we literally study roe v wade as an example of Harts metaphor of the "noble dream/nightmare" , they can take away any of your rights if they want to. But it will prolly never happen tho, looks too bad and would cause an uproar of course. Its unlikely but not impossible nor illegal.

>>509177389
Depends on how you define "rights"
If you belief rights are privileges granted by the state, then yes, they can be taken away.
If you believe in natural, God-given rights, which is an idea going back many centuries, then these are not rights that can be taken away.
And the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution call our right "inalienable" and say they are natural rights of man given by the Creator.
So any abridgment of these rights is not the elimination of these rights (they are eternal and immutable) but rather amounts to a tyrannical exercise of blocking people from their natural rights.

>>509177640
Yeah you are right, but that's just semantics and fluff.
If they want to take away your guns or your lands they legally can, what use are "god given rights" in real life? im not being sarcastic or attacking you, im asking you genuinely, my point being, theres literally no guaranties for such rights, the only thing stopping them is optics, that's it.

>>509173575
>No exceptions are mentioned in the amendment

Absolutely. I can't deprive you of your 2nd Amendment rights.

But I can - and WILL - prohibit you from entering my property, and I will refuse to do business with you.

>>509171961 (OP)
deagles are meme guns and the only reason they get shilled in movies and games is cos they're Israeli made

>>509171961 (OP)
Absolutely. They can’t stop you from carrying

But they can stop you from being employed

>>509177929
same with uzis. if uzis and deagles weren't Israeli they wouldn't be so well known. Hollywood and the gaming industry shill Israeli weapons for obvious reasons

>>509176290
based

>>509177929
Deagles are just dumb fun guns
I'd be down for a golden one for the lols

>>509175871
My rifle, faggot.

>>509174848
>shall not be infringed
>By the government.
If it's your private property, you can ban guns. But if you are a public facing business, or have employees, you need a license from "the government". And the government can't grant you any rights it doesn't have iteslf.

>>509171961 (OP)
But what if I'm not insecure enough in my manhood to want to carry a firearm everywhere I go?

>>509171961 (OP)
They would call the cops and the cops would likely just make up shit and you would get thrown in jail to meet some racial head count quota red tape.

>>509171961 (OP)
just came to post this funny coincidence i found in the catalog.

>>509178109
Don't forget to check the early life section of your potential firearms.

>>509175393
hes got a point. it doesnt limit the infringement to goverment. i would go further and argue it creates mandate for the US goverment to ensure the right to bear arms is protected world wide.
its time to liberate canada.

>>509177881
If people believe their rights are not privileges granted by the state, but are given by God and are natural (part of the way the cosmos operates), then their rights rest on a far stronger foundation and people will be more motivated to fight for their rights. Believing that rights are just dispensations from the government leads people to believe the government can just do what its wants to them, which is demoralizing.

>>509177906
You sound like a pussy who opposes other people exercising their God-given rights?
What's the matter? Do you conduct business like a Jew, ripping people off? So you're afraid someone will come to your business armed and will shoot you?

>>509171961 (OP)
no civilian needs a desert eagle

>>509179956
>i would go further and argue it creates mandate for the US goverment to ensure the right to bear arms is protected world wide.
Definitely!
If the US truly is the "one indispensable country," then our mission should be to spread the Bill of Rights to the entire world. Liberate everyone on the planet from tyranny. Then we'd be worthy of being called the greatest country in history.

>>509180291
Why not? They're good and useful.

>>509180139
It doesn't matter.

My property, my rules. So you and your little gun can just wait outside and seethe.

>>509181534
>My property, my rules. So you and your little gun can just wait outside and seethe.
Or I just walk in, strapped, and look around at what you're selling. What are you gonna do? Shoot me?
That would be homicide.
You really have something with other people open carrying.

>>509181907
>Or I just walk in, strapped, and look around at what you're selling. What are you gonna do? Shoot me?
>That would be homicide.
Yes, justifiable homicide of an armed intruder. Castle Doctrine, nigger.

>caring about legality
boomers have a saying
>Its better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6
also
DEATH TO JEWS
TKD

>>509172147
That's quite the faggy ID you have.

>>509181534
>Niggers break in steal you at gunpoint

>>509182011
If I'm just looking around and have a gun holstered on my hip, and you shoot me, you'd be facing murder charges.
That doesn't fall under the castle doctrine, since it's a public facing business.
Again, what is your problem with open carrying? You're obviously afraid of people doing it. But why? Are you fucking people over regularly?

>>509179956
>>509180304

this. i think its time we have some boots in iran.

>>509182652
>If I'm just looking around and have a gun holstered on my hip, and you shoot me, you'd be facing murder charges.
Sign on the door says no guns. I told you to leave. You refused and continued to be a smug little douche. You reached for your weapon. I was faster.
>Again, what is your problem with open carrying?
I haven't addressed open carrying and was open carrying before you knew it was a thing. You're trying to pretend your firearm rights override the property rights of others. They don't. And for some reason you're disingenuously trying to wrap this pilpul up as an open carry dispute when it has nothing to do with anything.

>>509171961 (OP)
They can fire you dumbass.

>>509183584
Go say you dont allow nonwhites faggot

>>509173017
>kill yourself
Suicide is the primary way you dumbfucks utilize firearms in US, yes. Still- no need to project that behaviour onto others.

You're cattle. Go buy another AR-15, that'll show dem bankers.

>>509185757
And yet the government doesn't do shit

>>509174848
Aw.

>>509178734
In fact you're so secure in your manhood that you're arguing for fewer rights. Pagliacci, the doctor is in.

They can tell you to leave for any reason and press charges for trespassing if you don't.

>>509185757
>Suicide is the primary way you dumbfucks utilize firearms in US, yes.
No, defensive gun uses are somewhere between 5x and 50,000x more common than gun suicides, eurocuck.

>>509176290
Ok Mr. Rodger, where can I get a copy of your manifesto?

>>509172147
>all the seething to this post
guns are funkopops for conservatives

>>509188400
[My post is satire]

>>509173698

Do you hear the Orwellian double speak in your statement? How do my fellow Americans say and think these things and not understand how the ideas they espouse contradict? I need to fucking renounce man and never come back. I am not sure why I'm hesitating so much. Something for me to think about I guess.

>>509173986
The big secret is that Trump's administration could formally ask SCOTUS to take a 2A case and they would do it. This happens all the time with other issues and the court has always obliged. If you need proof just Google "Trump administration asks Supreme Court". In fact I'm willing to bet the only issue that has never been requested to be heard by any administration is gun rights. Why is that do you think? Why has nobody in the media ever mentioned this path forward?