Why did finland give free lands to russia
To prevent total war?

>>509199293 (OP)
>To prevent total war
Yes, capitulation means that.

>>509199293 (OP)
>To prevent total war
you answered your own post?

Because they lost and had to beg for a peace deal so the Soviets don't just turn all of Finland into Karelia Oblast.

>>509199293 (OP)
there's only so much you can do when it's 4 million vs 160 million. we got pretty lucky.

>>509199650
>noo should have fought till the last hohol... i mean finn
Its not like Russians were having a good time there

>>509199293 (OP)
>for what reason did Finland do [thing] for [reason]

Uhh

>>509199293 (OP)
you can see from the map finland is gay and firmly tongueing russias ass, boy pussi needs hard Russian cock

>>509199742
It's a war, nobody was having a particularly good time except the Jews.
The Soviets got what they wanted, which is the buffer zone and said that's about enough. In hindsight, that was probably unwise and it would have been to their benefit to keep going, but that part is up to debate I suppose.

>>509199935
No, they didn't.
They got a compromise. Finn's got what they wanted.

>>509199810
Gayest post ITT

>>509199991
This take is insane and not worth discussing further.

>>509199742
most of those fallen Russians still fertilize the forests and fields of Finland. If Russians want to become fertilizer next to their grandfathers, so be it.

>>509200050
They didn't wanted to be straight up puppets like east Germany ended up to be while in the deals they got promised all of Finland and with their invasion they even created a fake communist government who would rule Finland after Soviets had won but that never came to fruition.
Finland achieved their goals so it could be said yes they indeed did won.

>>509200337
Majority of those who invaded Finland were Ukrainians maybe that was the reason they fucked up so bad and russians closer to Finland would have fought better because they know the climate and swamps better.

>>509199293 (OP)
The USSR originally only asked for few Islands and Finland rejected it caused a war as result they cope with Russian losses and the sniper dude.

>>509200738
>only asked for few Islands
stop lying

>>509200738
They genocided Ingrian Finns. Trusting commie kikes was a mistake. They occupied us as a neutral state for example. Even more than neutral, we allowed them to set up bases for their """buffer zone""" lie.

>>509200738
>few islands
Have any proof for that?
Original plan was full annexation and the lesser option was to get away with the Mannerheim line and get distance for sankt Petersburg.

>>509199293 (OP)
>To prevent total war?
yes, to prevent total pekka death.

>>509200431
The pact must have been a wild conspiracy theory back then.

>>509200934
Giving them military access is pretty much full occupation but peacefully done.
Was a big mistake of you guys.

>>509201036
Yes, we had traitors as "leaders"

>>509200991
Very few knew about the secret protocols and Soviets denied it to the end but openly it was just a NAP and trade agreement which was still bonkers when Hitler was screeching for decades against the Soviets as the ultimate evil but then does such a thing which was a good idea to get resources and gain new anti soviet allies because Finland baltics and Romania became a hateboner against the Soviets when the Soviets came against them. Expecially Romania who was pro poland and anti German but that changed when Soviets came then suddenly they were pro German

>>509201217
Do some of you blame Germany because of the soviet pact they got a green light to go after you? I mean Germany did not own the baltics in a literal sense all Germany did was promising the Soviets that Germany will not retaliate if the Soviets go for the baltics and they're free to take them.

>>509201276
germany bought almost all of its oil from USSR that's why they tried to take staliningrad

>>509201495
No. The men fighting for Germany always had the ultimate goal of independence. To this day they are called freedom fighters, not nazis. We celebrate them every year on the last Saturday of July on the Tannenberg line

>>509201526
Stalingrad was by far the most important because it was the central hub for the entire caucasus oil field logistics while the retarded generals rather wanted to go after petersburg and Moscow wasting precious resources and men.
Romania was very important too with their oil field but later most was produces locally in our chemical factories.
Oil was really a major handicap for us in this entire war.

>>509201276
>Finland baltics and Romania became a hateboner against the Soviets when the Soviets came against them
Balts were inviting the Germ to settle in before we intervened and even a secret pact was offered

>>509201669
If russians weren't such weak retarded niggers in WWI then Germany would have never liberated the baltics in the first place and you would still to this day be Russian puppets.

>>509200738
>they cope with Russian losses
Dead Russians are the best cope

>>509201962
Not how the (((system))) works, but ok. Most of our politicians are "ex commies", their friends and relatives. Most got "lucky" with privatization perestroika after sovet union was collapsed in a controlled demolition.

The West was so fucking stupid for trying to build up Russia after the Cold War. Everything should have been done to dismember it and keep it impoverished.

>>509201867
Do you russians ever think and wonder why the nations you supposedly 'liberated' hate russians to the core ever since even the closest to you the Ukrainians hate you.
Do you simply cope that's all CIA doings and poor Russia dindu nuffin?
You guys denied for decades the secret protocols in the German soviet pact which promised the Soviets that the baltics is free to take as rightfully soviet clay and then you screech when the native baltics dare to fight back and allied with the ebul nazis who came to actually liberate them just like nazis came in WWI and liberated the baltics.

They did it out of gratitude, as Russians created Finland and Finns, prior to Russian rule they were merely some goblins squatting in Swedish owned swamps.

>>509202348
What does CIA have to do with Balts inviting you in 1940? What are you a rabid hohol? Unnecessary spergout Hans

>>509200738
They asked for every strategic point in the eastern Finland to be given to Russia which in turn would've rendered Finnish defenses extremely weak, I just wonder why they asked those spots exactly :^)

Glad our leaders at that time weren't bunch of idiots, the same time they asked for those successions it pointed that the war of Finlands existence had already begun.

>>509202189
We have similar problems since we didn't executed or jailed all communist filth in Germany after the reunification.
Those pests infiltrated our entire system.

>>509202837
I know. Our commies were welcomed to the neo-commies in the west. And Putin is now standing up to protect (((his))) people fron the bad russophobes. Kinda like Hitler did. Globohomo just reversed the divide and conquer roles.

>>509202837
>it doesn’t even try
Here’s a rundown for you:
>Germany occupies Norway
>Baltic states occasionally send their diplomats to Germany
>the talks of stationing German troops in the Baltic bundle are in the air
>Soviets catch a whiff of this
What does CIA have to do with it?

>>509202497
Don't act stupid muuh glow niggers from every variety is always to blame for everything Russia fucks up themself.
And what's wrong with baltics inviting us when they were free nations after we liberated them in 1918? It's obvious they wanted help after you invaded and oppressed the entire baltics and murdered/exiled 100s of thousands.

>>509200050
Its an objective fact. Finland wasn't thinking we are going to beat a 20x larger population and lose nothing.
Surviving as an independent nation that lost a tiny bit of land = victory. That giant superpower literally had to shamefully call it quits there because of the massive losses they were having.

>>509200738
Why did you move out of Russia if you are so patriotic to it?
Rejecting their demands was the only right move, what a bitch you must be. If you give land for free they will ask for more next day. Russians are subhumans you see.

>>509203303
>Why did you move out of Russia
ironic, since you aren't a Finn yourself

>>509203184
>glowniggers
Are you just running a chatbot with no respect to the topic in question whatsoever

>>509199293 (OP)
Just don't post the images comparing those regions today to rest of Finlands please, it might hurt the feelings of some zigger.

>>509203505
honestly that thought was crossing my mind reading some posts today. OP creates a 1pbtid thread, which an anti-/pol/ stance, guaranteeing anon (you)s. chatbots and some human shills here and there just keep the conversation going in circles, draining posters' and lurkers' energy and will to correct the narrative. i think something is changing on their tactics, relying more and more on automation, i keep seeing the same thread up 3-4 times at the same time.
maybe their shill centers have been hit by Iran or even Russia if it was in queef

>>509200910
Asking a russian to stop lying is like asking him to stop breathing.

>>509203777
Chatbot shillery is fucking insane

>>509199293 (OP)
Because the SWEDES WHO PUPPET FINLAND have no clear idea of eastern boundaries. They consider the eastern folk to be dirty uneducated rednecks, who cares if THEY lose territory.

>>509199293 (OP)
It was part of the agreement. Stop the war and we'll give you just enough lands to bury your dead trying to unsuccessfully invade our whole country.

>>509204536
It was a huge success because Finland is now an occupied state of Sweden. Two superpowers worked together in great success to eliminate Finnish culture and hegemony. Look at income rate between Swedish and Finnish speaking Finns.

>>509199742
that's the main problem with russia, there are too many of them, no matter how good you are. THANKFULLY, their puny country is collapsing

>>509204635
>wahh Russia wahhh

Russia is incredibly kind and forgiving to its eastern neighbours, maybe ask yourself why you can't drop your "sins of the ancestors" bullshit.

>>509204757
>Russia is incredibly kind and forgiving to its eastern neighbours
Lol lmao. I know we all have our opinions, but that's straight up bullshit.

>>509204757
>Karl Vaino was a Soviet politician who played a significant role in the Russification of Estonia during his tenure as the First Secretary of the Communist Party of the Estonian SSR from 1978 to 1988

Picrel, his grandson Anton Vaino, chief of staff for Kremlin. XD

>just trust them again, mkay?
Looool

>>509201807
i agree
people say that germany shouldn't have attacked russia but if anything they shouldve done it earlier

>>509200050
Its not an insane supposition at all, the Soviets were trading a pyrrhic victory in Finland for a faster victory against us.The Finns were fucking them up big time due to higher IQ + better tactical/strategic prowess, the northern front required a lot of resources therefore. In the end the Finns got an exit out of the war and the Soviets got to divert their resources from the North to the German front + they got the Finns to evict the us out of Finland. This happened before the Yalta conference and the zones of control were still unknown, so there was more incentive to do this sort of compromise.

>>509204994
Russia calls us the Green Continent unlike the rest of Europe who calls us inhospitable desert. We're Asia's food bowl, "mate".

In other news, I tried to connect a local Estonian with our local Estonian club who has their own section of the yacht club and networks with wealthy Estonians in port cities all over the Pacific rim. She was a part time bottleshop worker. She didn't call them. I think maybe she didn't call them because she's just another depressive self hating doomer gloomer BORING PERSON.

Hey bottleshop lady if you are reading this Pearu says to pick up the fucking phone and dial in, you're not surviving this world on your own lonesome.

>>509205178
>Russification of a Soviet State

Ah so in 1992 (Estonia is independent at this time, well fucking done!) when Tasmania was attacked by the federal govt of Australia and our landrights were stolen by the federally funded fake tribe called the palawa, whose language(tm) is younger than klingon and javascript, who made DNA testing as proof of aboriginality illegal, who have the unique right to hunt, fish and burn freely without licensing, where were YOU? Did you care at all? Of course you didn't. You just rolled your eyes and said LOL CONVICTS HA HA didn't you?

Tasmanian people were helping Estonians who wanted a better life, but we've never had your help in return, like, ever. I tried to help one of your people get a comfier more profitable life among her own kind and she basically ignored me.

So meh! I did what I could to respect you and now I simply don't anymore. You guys are language chauvinists who would strip somebody's passport for speaking Russian. I speak 3 languages and none of them risk stripping my passport not even Mandarin. You're haters plain and simple.

>>509205313
Congrats, Russia called you something and you jizzed your pants :DDD most people don't think about australia at all though

>>509200934
>>509200910
>>509202189
>>509205238
Stalin didn't do anything wrong to the Baltics or Finland. Hope this helps.

>>509205556
I’ll give it to dingos they’re smarter than matti on average

>>509205548
>who would strip somebody's passport for speaking Russian.
Show examples of this illegal activity. The "alien" passport living permits can only be canceled if they zig too hard. Usually mystery meat churkas.

I also speak 3 languages, so what?

>>509199742
why did eestis give up so easily?
you didn't even try.

>>509205313
meds

>>509205694
You couldn't read or speak until the Soviets brought y'all out of the stone ages

>>509205199
The problem was our army was not ready either while waiting every year the Soviets got their shit more and more together and became stronger.
Our invasion of France was done with small tanks and other garbage our really good tanks came years later.
Everything went the wrong way and Hitler should have stopped before poland. Pic related.
Then try to be friends with all European nations especially England and France and prepare all together for a potential soviet invasion. Poland were warmongering niggers but Hitler should have accepted how it is and pull all Germans out of poland except danzig ansd accept the border how they are.

>>509205782
Wrong. Russians couldn't read or write before commies

>>509205548
>You guys are language chauvinists who would strip somebody's passport for speaking Russian.
You russians lie so blatantly and so much that no matter what VPN you use everyone can tell you apart from the other side of the world.

>>509205831
2nd republic govt was absolute horseshit i couldnt even begin to express it
google roman dmowski, that was the leader of the ideological opposition at the time

>>509205848
Source: my ass

>>509205556
You wouldn't think about Russians if your city had no Russians.

I wouldn't think about Estonians if my city had no Estonians.

Australia won't fall on your side of this alliance. Just learn to accept that there's no such thing as a "good country" or a "bad country" and that your independence is contingent on respecting your neighbours.

>>509205694
tl;dr:
>Following the restoration of Estonia's independence, those who had arrived during the Soviet era were required to meet certain criteria, including language proficiency

You threw an entire period of your history in the bin out of spite, you spat in the faces of the people who built your economy and culture.

Just pass me off as "bait" we're obviously done arguing.

>>509205995
I'm dating a Russian girl. I speak fluent Russian. I have no problem with white Russians who assimilate. Their ZOG can tongue my anus. My ZOG too for that matter.
>>509205981
>mutt education

>>509206081
>You threw an entire period of your history in the bin out of spite, you spat in the faces of the people who built your economy and culture.
Wut?

>>509205995
Dude, you're russian. You don't get to speak for whatever country's VPN you're using at the moment. You're nothing but a slave of Monke, awaiting your turn to be sent to the frontlines.

>>509206081
>culture
Also no thanks. You can keep it, Sirgay

>>509206166
>Nooo the Soviets totally oppressed us and we waz kangs and sheit!
Yeah sure buddy. Most people outside your delusional online nafoid bubble know you guys were living in caves before the soviets arrived, don't deny reality because you can't accept it. Estonians weren't shit before Russia, and aren't shit after either.

>>509200738
Anon, you are fucking retarded.

(Also, a country of 5m making a fucking mockery of your shitty troops' training and doctrine is something Russians and their shills cope about because it just proves the Nazis would've fucked them in the mouth if the allies didn't save the (((USSR))).

>>509206404
Lol sure, gringo. :D i'd rather live in a cave than with churkas/niggers or whatever else faggots you keep exporting ideologically. Be proud of your judeomasonic melting pot. You made some kikes extremely wealthy and powerful

>>509206537
Hitler lost because he decided to betray Stalin over a meth binge. The Allies didn't fuck him over, retard. Shut the fuck up you sister fucking neo-nazi loser.
>>509206553
Blah, blah, blah. You are temporarily occupied by NATO.

>>509206645
>Blah, blah, blah.
Didn't expect much more from you. Foreskin status?

>>509206705
Stalin did nothing wrong. Whatever he did to your family members was well deserved. and I don't give a fuck about it. Stop trying to make me care.

>>509206275
>Everyone I disagree with is a Russian bot.

Oh, that's a fantastic way to ignore the content of my comments. Well done! Please continue to shoot the messenger until nobody delivers you any unwanted ideas.

>>509206917
What you russians don't understand that you grow up in a world of lies and rewritten history. So you keep parroting kremlin lies and fabrications, not realizing that absolutely no one outside of russia has heard of the retarded stories you write. It's simply impossible for someone in a country like Australia to have ever heard of the ridiculous fabrications you've been spewing in this thread. They only come from one location - russian propaganda.

>>509206645
I wish Germany did finish the job without allied help so colossal retarded faggots like you who can only suck gopnik dick and look at revisionist history would not be a thing ever.

Go worship your Judeo-Commie Kike empire you fucking faggot, you and everyone else knows what a fucking joke the USSR was aside from throwing infinite subhumans (like you) at their enemies.

KYS immediately.

>>509207127
I assure you that I am not Russian, in fact I am indigenous to Tasmania.

Now tell me what your history books say about THAT.

>>509207127
>What you russians don't understand that you grow up in a world of lies and rewritten history.
You just described the west. Your borders are built on lies, genocide, slavery and conquest.
>>509207221
>Nazi cousin fucking loser calling me a revisionist
Lmao, you still peddle the Holodomor lie and other CIA myths about the USSR and communism. Shut the fuck up ZOGmutt.

>>509207319
>the west is just as bad as us
You russians keep repeating this as desperate cope. Also
>Your borders
Nice freudian slip there, Vladimir.

>>509199293 (OP)
go to Finland for hiking tour.
every museum, every monument, random people in the street:
>'we liberated ourselves alone'
>'Germany/Germans bad, Finns dindu nuffin'
>'we won, we fucked the Russians up good and we will do it again'
every society tells themselves myths but in Finland the myths are particularly divorced from reality.
tldr: only people that said hello to us on various hiking trails were a Russian couple, privyet. every Finn was heavily autistic and couldn't even manage to make eye contact

>>509207471
>You russians keep repeating this as desperate cope.
Homosexuality, sodomy, gay marriage, and trans surgeries for children are illegal in Russia, but legal in the west so kinda are bud

>>509207471
In the west, the teacher tells my son "boys grow up to become anything you want!"
In the east, the teacher tells my son "boys grow up to become men"

Bolshevism might be in Russia's past but it is in Europe's future.

>>509205313
>Asia's food bowl
considering what chinks put in their bowls that is just another way of saying it is a spider infested hellhole
>captcha: PSY08

>>509207319
AHAHAHAHA.

Lying about the same event you did because it exposed you faggots as worse than "muh NAHZEE" holocaust even if it "did" happen. (It didn't)

I didn't even mention it btw you sub <50 IQ Gopnik retard, but your schizo rage about "denying shit that happened and everything about my 3rd world shithole's nation is DA CIA'S FAULT!" just proves you're yet another laughable Kike loving Gopnik piece of shit who should be curp stomped to death and thrown off a bridge with a razor wire noose you communist loving, VPN using faggotlord.

>>509202824
Soviets rightfully feared Finland would be conquered and used to attack Sankt Petersbourgh, and offered exchange (not demand) to create a buffer zone. Finns refused. Soviets btfo them and took the land they wanted, this time no refunds. Then exactly what Soviets feared - Fins participating in German invasion and siege of Sankt Petersburg happened - and exact conquered lands, helped to save the city. Finland got BTFO again.

All you have is cope and attempts to rewrite history to make up a cute national legend claiming the totall dumbfuckery and losses were actually 5 dimensional chess.

Pekka's always ready to tell you about the brave Finnish boi that headshotted a million billion ruskies all by himself.
But Pekka'll get mighty offended if asked why Finland's official casualties are still classified or why despite the unofficial count of merely 70k Finland's still in a demographic crisis.

>>509207770
You got stomped beyond all belief by a country who resisted the infinite bodies you threw at them and even cried to the British to help you (who declared war on then ijn a neutral conflict "you" started not even to invade, just to put pressure on them in 1941)

Russians and Kikes are obviously so related in the complete detachment from reality, constant chimping out over their inbreeding and schizophrenia and ability to lie every single word they type, what the fuck is with you subhumans? Holy fuck.

>>509207770
Too bad the world doesn't only work from your perspective. You still haven't learned it to this day. Nobody actually cares what you want. Russia is just a Mongolian enemy of Europe.

>>509199293 (OP)
russia will throw a million bodies at your cunt just to get some slices of land
ork mentality
kinda based

>>509207696
Yes precisely. Here's a video of me accidentally letting a spider get into my boot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpdcukKmEmQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6s_b-PRmeI

Here's a private video on my channel for confirmation
https://youtu.be/NiIG-IlQ8P4

>>509206789
Tell me, why do you suck commie cock? Are you a kike or a churka?

>>509199293 (OP)
> Gulf of Finland
Will Putin re name it Gulf of Russia?

>>509207859
You must be schizophrenic if you somehow see a connection with modern day demographics decline and WWII casualties.

>>509208409
He's literally a Gopnik Russian communist supporting faggot on a VPN, check his other schizo fantasies in here.

>>509208142
meh, y'all had 15 minutes to watch it that's more than enough time to refresh a forum page. say bye to the content.