>years ago read a schizo-post saying all grass seeds used to have clover seeds mixed in but the evil seed companies stopped doing it to sell more fertilizer and sprinklers
>think it’s nonsense
>today, walking in the park
>grass is completely yellow and dried out
>except patches with clovers, they are lush green (even with no shade)

What the fuck

Is everything else on this board also true?

>>509206861 (OP)
Clover and tyme are great ground cover. I also like miners lettuce.

>>509206861 (OP)
Clover > (((grass)))

clovers do fertilize the soil. You should seed a mixture.

nitrogen fixation is the final redpill

>>509206861 (OP)
I don't know why you're surprised. Clover was used liberally for hundreds of years to refresh soil after depletion from monocropping.

>>509206861 (OP)
Clover is a nitrogen fixer simple as

>>509206861 (OP)
I have no clue if it helps but pretty much all the grass I see around has clovers mixed in it

>>509206861 (OP)
Blood bath is the way to go just be sure to drink and eat a bit first to prove its not poison

>>509207349
Someone tell Vedal there is a problem with my AI

The Big Seed.

Those posts made me get some seeds and spread them around my garden. They only grew on a couple of patches. Shitty weeds are too powerful.

>>509206861 (OP)
Clover attracts deer and rabbits so we keep it out of most grass mixes to avoid patching as result of overbrowsing
>t turf scientist with big3 turf co

>>509206861 (OP)
Monoculture is cancer.

>>509206861 (OP)
>Is everything else on this board also true?
Without a doubt

The most recent fact I learned is that smoking natural tobacco is actually healthy for you.

>>509206861 (OP)
Grass is like 10000 different species, some of them grow below mowing height. People who don't literally BUY SHORT GRASS are useless matrix-connected non-playables.

>>509206861 (OP)
Just like crops, grass needs to be rotated with other crops (like clover) in order to create a nutritional balance in the soil.
>Is everything else on this board also true?
These days? Not really. /pol/'s glory days are long behind it.

>>509208811
>Nutritional balance

why would I need that when I can just huff canola oil all day?

>>509208721
when globohomo companies start pushing against tobacco you know that there is something healthy about it

>>509208576
>>> im a lawn kike, trust me goy

Nah....(((weed killers))) that kill weeds but not grass also kill clover...its alot easier and more profitable to just call clover a weed than try again until they get it right, so here we are

>>509206861 (OP)
lol I mixed in white clover over acres of lawn and trail
>the white man's stepping grass
its fuckin' incredible
my chemical using neighbors are retarded
they still haven't asked me what I'm on
hate retards
if they had superior results
I'd inquire
This is what makes me better than them and nearly everyone though lol.

>>509206861 (OP)
>white clover anon
It has been ages anon. I turned an overgrown weed pile into a meadow on this advice. You're the real MVP.

>>509206861 (OP)
Just rip everything out, plant new grass seeds and then spread corn gluten to prevent weeds.

All you have to do is keep spreading corn gluten around, i don't why retards spray toxic shit all over their lawn and then let their kids and pets roam around on it.

>>509209090
Fuck your advice bro your lawn probably sucks

>>509208793
Which species would you recommend? Green pill me on grass please

>>509208576
So it is a conspiracy by demons against my Rabbit?

>>509209171
Bermuda Sunday and Bermuda Imperial were the first two suggestions google gave me. But I live in an area that gets frosts to -5°C and I'm not divulging my perfect grass secrets.

I love clover fields, my favorite time in fields and patches of clovers was alway spent trying to find the four leaved clover!

I often did, and it was an epic epic feeling.

I would have loved to witness the hangings of many many many scum of this Earth! Oh well.

>>509207216
This is mainly an American problem where their faggot HOAs strayed from gatekeeping coloreds to crawling up your ass with jew lawyers for having even one dandelion in your lawn.

>>509209171
It depends on your region you'd be better off googling what the best grass is for your area.

>>509209294
>You're not white unless you kill your garden
I will never understand this mentality, yankees are jew slaves

>>509207728
Regular mowing and forced removal my dude. Keeping something pretty requires effort.

>>509206861 (OP)
>Is everything else on this board also true?
yes

>>509207161
Yep, 777 and 666, both equally magic that make nature and everything in it beautiful.

>>509209330
Yhea, truth I had to water and fertilize my clover 0 times in 60 years.

>>509208721
Yeah, crazy how people have been smoking tobacco for hundreds of years, but only just now we're starting to see people develop illnesses from mass manufactured cigarettes.

Save this, when marijuana becomes legal and commercialized, you'll see the same phenomena.

clover was used in crop rotation to replenish fields

>>509209263
>>509209302
Thanks friends. It can and will get as cold as -35C here, so researching region specific grass is a great recommendation.

>>509206861 (OP)
I buy grass seed mixed with clover. It works. It attracts pollinators but it also attracts rabbits and groundhogs.

>>509209294
Dandelions are another example of a "weed" that's incredibly beneficial for you and your yard that helps break up compacted soil. Yet retards spend money killing it.

/pol/ is always right, don't forget it.

>>509206861 (OP)
It's the bees. Jews hate bees so they refrain from putting clover in the grass in most cities. There are SOME exceptions, however.

bumble bees love lavender and you can dry it and put it in small bags to prevent moth from going after you clothes

woodruff smells wonderful

>>509209432
Wheat grass makes for better under_till then clover in "America"

>>509207161
>Clover is a nitrogen fixer simple as
I'm sold

>>509209642
Honey bees do love that clover.

Fuck nigger bees.

>>509209430
> when marijuana becomes legal and commercialized, you'll see the same phenomena.
kek. How long have you been in a coma?

>>509206861 (OP)
You think that's bad. Get a load of the utter CUNTS who GMO tomato (etc) seeds so the next gen will struggle to thrive and the gen after that almost fail to live at all. All so they can keep selling packets of fucking seeds. The utter state of the world. Oh the fucking humanity.

>>509209821
bumble bees have their hives under the ground, they are based and do not sting aggressive

>>509209919
We have golden apple trees.
I noticed what bees do the pollination.

>>509206861 (OP)
I got you

>>509209919
>bumblebees do not sting

goalposts on fucking wheels. Keep talking that shit talk until the facts come home to roost.

>>509206861 (OP)
I tried the clover lawn meme. I can tell you objectively that it is bullshit. Clover grows quite high, many areas in my yard would grow knee-high. It cannot be cut easily without ruining it. It has almost no tolerance at all for foot traffic, even walking over it a couple of times starts killing it. It dies back rapidly after you trim it or mow it and you have to reseed it again. It creates tangled mats of thatch underneath.

If you lived out in the country on a few acres and had animals or bees or something like that it might make more sense. As An urban lawn it's complete bullshit

>>509210027
there is a house here on the way to the supermarket they got a 60° wall of stones with holes in them and lavender growing from them
always docile bumble bees on them and smell pleasant, once at a barren field I saw some lavender growing 20 bumble bees on them

>>509210042
Fun fact: Parkinson's disease diagnoses correlate most strongly with your distance from a golf course. Trump will get parkinsons you'll see the shakes before they toss him to the wolves. And his children and those media goons who follow him doubly so because they are exposed in youth.

>>509210050
australianized bumble bees are different probably

>>509210066
>grows too high
>no tolerance for foot traffic

sounds like a couple of children playing in the yard will fix your problem.

>>509207426
>Someone tell Vedal there is a problem with my AI

>>509210190
We don't have "Australian" bumblebees, they are genetically identical to the Scottish kind. Bumblebees sting, you're just dumb because Europe has African honeybees who are agrressive. Australian honeybees sting too.

The myth you perpetuate is due to the fact that bumblebees have smaller sparser hives so you don't get swarmed, you still get fucking stung.

>>509209476

No way....she...did she really?

>>509210066
idk what species you tried but my elementary school had a type of clover in the grass and it never grew higher than like 2 inches. We trampled it every day. And it's still fucking there 30 years later.

>>509210326
nice try, I bet australianized bumble bees are toxic cunts

>>509206861 (OP)
Yes.

>>509210163
>Parkinson's
Parkinson's is caused by chemicals used in dry cleaning.

>>509210402
>30 years later
You're completely full of shit.

>>509206861 (OP)
I do use grass seed with clover mixed in. The clover looks good, is thick, and greener in color than the grass. The boomer scalped golf course grass shit is weird.

>>509210443
this meme sucks, it omits the bavarian soviet republic
commie jews under direction from moscow started an illegal coup, took over a federal state, seceeded it and proclaimed a soviet republic on german soil

they desecrated the church, wrote lenin, started a famine just a year after the family of the russian tsar was butchered by the red terror

>>509210572
>screenshot of a thread going over jews jewing in germany
>meme

>>509210463
>trichloroethylene hobby or occupational exposure +500% increased risk
>residing within a mile of a golf course +125% increased risk (compared to living 6 miles away from a golf course)

oh shid you're right. I guess golfers really love dry cleaning.

My dad got parkinsons because I'm allergic to bug spray and I can't wear open toe footwear because my feet pour with sweat and I slip and slide all over the place, so I drenched his pillows in the same spray until they were soaking and let them dry and put them back on his bed. He was diagnosed 18 months later.

>>509210511
>30 years later
>You're completely full of shit.

Glyphosate is the active ingredient in the broad-spectrum weed killer Roundup by Monsanto and it has been killing the bees just like the old farmer always said.

Maybe don't spray poison around me and you won't be blamed for your own exposure to poison HA HA FUCK YOU DAD

>>509208891
globohomo pushed smoking for ages during 50s - 70s

>>509206861 (OP)
clover, especially mini-clover is great groud cover
always a beautiful green

grass, especially the weird hard grass you guys have in the Southern US is inferior

>>509206861 (OP)
Of all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are these, 'pol was right again'

>>509206861 (OP)
Grass is on God a psyop

Lawns started as a way for aristocracy to flex, because they didn't need to grow food on that land and could pay people to maintain it. The plebs and poors, being the eternal Nog, wanted to emulate that so they could bix nood about how much they're like the rich.

Now lawns have become another unnecessary facet of the ever poorer middle class who keep up the charade.

I'm not anti yard or property I've got 3 acres but keeping it as some kind of weird overly manicured outside carpet is gay bug man nonsense. Half my property is scrubbier than a zoomers girls pussy, just the way I like both. I keep the grass in the areas we go short but I'm not trying to force growth where it ain't going to work. I've planted other things in areas that don't support grass because covering your entire existence is chemicals is fucking wack.

Tldr: lawns are gay and a trick by rich Jews to get poor people to poison themselves and waste time and money. Also weeds aren't real, plants are plants nature knows what the fuck it's doing

>>509207728
You have to seesld multiple times. Do it like 3x in the spring and 2x in the fall.

>>509206861 (OP)
oh man, just look into the whole “american front lawn” rabbithole. here’s a hint: anything west of the midwest is meant to be desert. all those lawns in california are fake and need loads of shit just to survive a year. even huge parts of the midwest are arid and too dry for muh lawwwn.

>>509210702
read
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_Soviet_Republic

>>509210921
>on God

why do you speak like somebody I would never hire?

>>509207058

Once you learn about regenerative farming and how basically all the fake gay industrial shit we do is unnecessary there's no going back. They poison everything on purpose and make up reasons after

>>509206861 (OP)
It was pesticide and anti weed chemicals. They kill weeds but also clover which is necessary to balance nutrients. They accepted this and just sold your fertilizer to compencate

>>509209294
>>509209330
>Deluded into thinking HOAs having dandelion rules
It was real in your mind, I guess.

>>509209476
that pic

>>509211054
https://www.google.com/search?q=HOA+dandelions

>>509206861 (OP)
Duh, it provides shade
The sun sterilizes the ground and the bacteria in it
Any normal piece of grass grows very tall in nature because of that
If you cut it short, you need ground cover foliage
creeping phlox and myrtle, candytuft is good also
having some pieces of stone and wood and maybe some stone crops is also nice, especially if you have a small to medium sized tree
>>509206964
I second this, meehan's mint is nice too

>>509206861 (OP)
clover is the sign of an ill+kept lawn.
a true lawn is pure grass. if you are too lowly to keep a grass lawn, you might as well leave it to fallow

>>509207426
Wink, heart

>>509208946
That market is actually smaller than you think, most of our residential product will never be subject to any kind of ‘maintenance’ like broad leaf herbicide, millennials and zoomer homeowners (our largest segment) are just not into it like boomers were

>>509211410
You British bitches started this bs trend
Google "Japanese Garden"
It mogs the absolute fucking shit out of your retarded noble grass garden cancer
If I want to see nothing but a green floor, I either vomit or I play fucking minecraft flatword
fucking british retards

>>509210729
>Glyphosate
Yes I'm aware of the bullshit they used in order to get rid of clover as ground cover since round up kills it. Clover is still great as a ground cover as is Jasmine, but it sucks for a lawn.

BTW every single person here should stop using glyphosate immediately and switch to Triclopyr. If you're not already familiar with it it is like a miracle herbicide. While I would still wear ppe when using it, It has no known link to cancer or neurotoxicity. Even at low levels like 0.25%, it will wreck invasive species especially useful for stuff like poison ivy. It's what they use in the national Forest service because it's so effective even over large areas but does not persist in the soil and has a half-life of about 8 to 10 days and is often completely gone within 40 days.

However if you're dealing with the real nasty invasive Chinese shit like waxleaf privet, tree if heaven, or knot weed, etc you can keep this stuff at full strength, mux 50/50 with diesel and just paint it on the bark around the base of the plant and it will kill it and one treatment, even better if you cut it and paint the stump. It will even travel down into, not only the root, but also the rhizome network and kill the entire thing.

But it gets better because it does not persistent soil and is broke down by regular soil microbes so you can even use it very near proximity to desirable plants without worrying about killing them.

Normally you need a license in order to buy this stuff but Amazon drop shippers will send it to you no problem. The only downside is it can be very expensive often times costing like $250 a gallon, although for a typical homeowner this is probably a lifetime supply. There's a brand name called garlon 4 and a slightly more generic one called Tri 4 (4= 40% crazy strong basically a super concentrate).

If you don't believe me paste this entire post into chatgpt and ask it to fact check.

>>509210042
I have a cloverleaf mix yard. We didn't do much except raking out the pebbles and roots beforehand. After 2 years it's pretty good. It's not the kind of lawn you'd want to walk barefoot or lay in the grass because of the bee's and other insects. But it is really healthy and it changed the soil from mostly sandy to a dark fertile grounds.

>>509211000
The reason is always profit, there's nothing to make up

>>509211707
soi protein in EVERYTHING isn't profitable it's subsidised.

btw I got a new job at a chocolate factory and our main contaminants are asbestos and lead

Bumblebees are based and you should reject the honey jew.

>>509206861 (OP)
Nice try but I won't fall for big clover and their lies.

chickens ate all my grass what do i do to fix this and not poison them

>>509206861 (OP)
I have long learned that the schizos with nothing to gain tend to be the ones telling the truth.
I still don't know how to feel about birds, that's one I'll just have to learn to live with.

>>509211974
Chickens don't eat grass you are insane

>>509211974
That's what chickens do. You need to rotate your chickens if you pasture them, just like any other pasture animal. But also chicken poop is really strong and needs to be composted or it basically kills everything it touches.

>>509209566
This is what I really don't get. Dandelions literally fixing the ground so less resilient plants can also survive there. They feed the bees. You can make jam or tea from them. Why the fuck would someone try to remove them?
Grass is the most boring thing you can have in your lawn.

>>509210793

that's back when they needed men to be masculine and stoic. now they wanted soft men so smoking and saturated fat are bad.

>>509212120
Of course chickens eat grass. They eat virtually everything.

>>509210027
We almost have to practically be neighbors.

>>509210934
Good stuff.

It's like learning to just cut your potatoes on the spot when your planning them and do a powder dip and try not to scrape it off planting it.

>>509206861 (OP)
Clovers also help with dog pee everywhere. Dog pee kills grass, not clover.

>>509206861 (OP)
It all depends on your region chuds. Ultimately clover is non native though. For some of us- the final red pill is getting your whole yard in wirgrass and longleaf pine and then just burning it once every two years. Of course this is a 40 year process. Your best bet though is a turf grass lawn. It may need aeration though. If youre into non native ground covers perennial peanut is better than clover imho.

Also, dont worry so much about the lawn just keep it mowed and plant some trees goddam.

>>509206861 (OP)
>Is everything else on this board also true?
Yes. Holocaust didn't happen. And Hitler was right about everything.
And jews truly are the enemy of mankind and their eradication will lead to the reversion of multiculturalism trannyism and everything that is destroying the White world

>>509212172
Yup, I power dip them just cut and wet.

Only on the cut edge.

"Don't use pic related" it's not for potatoes.

>>509212086
>I have long learned that the schizos with nothing to gain tend to be the ones telling the truth.
Trust the voices in your head

>>509206861 (OP)
As a usa southern, idgaf, give me my Bermuda. Self healing, weed resistant, drought resistant, heat resistant. Only gay thing is it hates shade, but even then you can make it work.

>>509206861 (OP)
>>except patches with clovers, they are lush green (even with no shade)

gpt:
Clover is a nitrogen-fixing plant, meaning it can convert atmospheric nitrogen into a form that plants can use. This is achieved through a symbiotic relationship with Rhizobium bacteria, which live in nodules on the clover's roots. The bacteria convert nitrogen gas into ammonia, which the clover can then utilize for growth.

>>509206861 (OP)
great way of being infested with beetles

>>509212911
Your seeing things that are not there!

Stop powder dipping your cut potatoes.

>>509208721
>The most recent fact I learned
>>509208721
So then, let's continue.

Globohomo's origin story:
>once upon a time the world has been peaceful and harmonious, then came along a snakeoil merchant
>the snakeoil merchant has sent ahead an ostensibly filthy-rich bait to a village
>the bait very publically flaunted his shinies and pitched worthless magic paper to the villagers
>the villagers sought out the snakeoil merchant, willing to trade their everything for worhless magic paper
>a week later, after realizing that its worthless magic paper they couldn't use anywhere else, they returned to the merchant to trade it back
>the snakeoil merchant told them that he would be a fool to trade back all the resources for the original prices, as there are so few resources in comparison to the volumes of worthless magic paper now in circulation
>villagers involved legal authority which told them to fuck off, because the trades were legal -- the merchant didn't lie, the bait did and the villagers didn't bother asking the merchant or reading the fineprint
>the snakeoil merchant showed "mercy" and allowed the villagers to burrow the resources against a fee and interest paid with the worthless magic paper
>[fast forward] the village is bankrupt and indebted, everyone's at each other throat having scammed each other out of their worthless magic paper to pay their own fees
>the merchant once again showed "mercy" and offered them a deal: if they assume the role of the bait and spread the good word of the worthless magic paper in other villages they'll be allowed to stay in their homes and toil their fields
>[fast forward] the merchant is now considered the sovereign, writing the laws and ruling over terminally indebted and blackmailed royality and common folk alike, all the while canonizing the most prolific baits as prophets and whatnot
>[fast forward] (You)'re here.
(cont.)

Stop using cabbage for a buffer crop from bugs and by the fucking poison.

It's time for your corn syrup.

>>509213465
The predatory system of incentives that is usury demands that you are made and kept dependant. Moreso it demands a continous surplus production of hyperprocessed, inedible slop, addictive pharma goo and shoddily designed, terminally obsolescent devices. The entire "economy" boils down to selling longterm problems and renting out shortterm solutions: the longer any given problem exists, the more interest and debt payments are generated. The more people consume, the more worthless magic can and needs to be "printed"-- read: assumed to exist in the past (debt), the present (credit) and the future (interest) in whatever quantity necessary to influence, if not outright control your behaviour.
Imagine if there only existed few, lasting high-quality goods -- how could you maintain the illusion of representation? For every single unit of worthless magic paper there exists a likewise worthless waste of resources on some shelves, in some ramshakle "buisness" that's run exclusively on loans (like any other). Any time someone enters the system a loan is issued, the "value" of money is reduced, everyone's means to repay their debt and interest are diminished -- everyone is incentivzed to scam each other out of their loans.

Money is not a currency, it's a vacous commodity. A commodity whose value is dependant on its supply and its demand, and that is yet valued in itself. A commodity whose supply is in control of a select few private hands and whose demand is negotiated by public opinion, which is coincidentially in control of the same select few private hands through propagandists, who, you've guessed it, are paid with it.

It's a closed loop of garbage-in, garbage-out. There is only one true currency left: influence, and its derivative: blackmail.

>>509213506
It's time for your corn syrup!

>>509213098
>symbiotic relationship with Rhizobium bacteria
Most people don't know this, but plants evolved alongside bacterias and mushrooms.
If you plant something, make sure to also provide it with its specific mushroom and bacteria friends.
Read up on mycorrhiza. Interesting stuff.

>>509210066
You were supposed to plant White Dutch Clover

>>509206861 (OP)
I do remember grass always had cloves in them back in the early 2000s and late 90s, before that wasnt born/aware but tracks

>>509213691
Yup, it's like going to the local county fair to see what the other farmers are doing this year.
So you get 1/2 of the cost feed cost back selling their poop?

>>509213846
It was exactly white Dutch clover that I planted. It probably SHOULD HAVE been mini clover.

Some stuff yeah, probably the thought reading schizo theories will be normal in some years

>>509213691
then why do sterile grown hydroponics plants grow larger and produce more? The real truth is plants thrive when they have more oxygen at the roots. bacteria and fungus produce co2 at the root zone. science can suck my cock

>>509214171
There are dwarf varieties.

>>509214370
K, Tell me when you can make mushroom spore slurry.

>>509207004
SPBP, if you allow them to flower it is even better.
>>509210393
that is ai slop my retard fren

>>509214602
a spore slurry? ive done cloning from biopsy and liquid cultures. easy

Fucker attacked me then threw poop everywhere.

>>509214370
You can add hydrogen peroxide to a plants root area in hydroponics, and it will oxidize any type of root rot and provide pure oxygen to the roots.

>>509206861 (OP)
>Is everything else on this board also true
people.have been posting here for nearly 20 years, you think it's all lies?

>>509214770
yes , but its commercial peroxide at like 25-30%. way too expensive to be using for plants. bleach is cheap and works just was well at like 5-6ppm

>>509214861
What even is vegan ice cream? Some kind of vegetable lard in emulsion?

americans are some of the dumbest mfs around getting jewed by their corporations left and right

>>509212168
>pic
the jew of the plant world. detests the hard work of having chlorophyll and chooses to live as a parasite instead

>>509215177
It's actually one of the oldest plants and a sign of good dirt health unlike Jews.

>>509209294
>This is mainly an American problem where their faggot HOAs

Europoors have this weird obsession with HOAs as if most Americans live in one. HOAs are extremely uncommon. I wouldn't even know where to find one anywhere near where I live.

And if you do live in one, it's because you deliberately chose to live in one. It's like if there are 10 houses in an HOA, and their only rule is all the houses have to be painted yellow. You buy one of those houses, then complain because you don't want to paint it yellow.

>>509214370
>why do sterile grown hydroponics plants grow larger and produce more?
Because most humans are smarter than mushrooms.
Most people also don't want to spend that much time and money on a set-up simply because it yields better results.
>My basement grass is the best

>>509214861
Scarily few things on this board are not true.

Lies are obvious ones designed to troll or posted by THEM

>>509212142
Dandelions work great to break up soil, but they’re a poor nutrition source of nectar for pollinators in the US where dandelion is non-native. Having said that, I would prefer, and have had, a yard full of dandelions, clover, and wild strawberries over shitty grass. The grass was always a bitch to mow and I eventually became allergic to it. I had to start wearing a mask like a COVID lunatic.
Microclover is amazing ground cover. Doesn’t grow high, tolerates some abuse, fixes nitrogen, and produces beautiful flowers. I over-seeded areas of my yard that were torn up by stump removal (last owner was a BPD retard and cut a bunch of trees down and left the stumps in his maniac phases). It overtook the crappy grass seed the company laid down even though we had a drought. It was 100% worth it just to watch the bees buzzing happily from clover flower to clover flower.

>>509207728
weeds are nearly impossible to stop. unless you have a patch of grass in the middle of a city that's surrounded by concrete. even then you'll still have the occasional weed pop up cause their seed made it on someones shoe or pant leg or blown by the wind.

through pulling weeds, and spraying weed killer and throwing down grass seed, I managed to make my lawn all grass only. but then it was just a constant battle on either side of my yard where it meets my neighbors lawns and they creep over from there because they only cut their grass and nothing else. so I gave up. nothing I can do unless my neighbors also get rid of theirs, or else I'd just be spending a lot of time right where their lawn meets mine spraying and picking all the time

>>509207525
Big Agro sneeded the seed

>is everything else on this board also true?
Wait until you read The Story of Neal

>>509214770
i use ~20ml of 3% peroxide on 10l for watering pot plants in soil. results are really god. no fungal diseases any longer, not even with roses that are prone to it. i have white and pink clover in the lawn. pure magic, although it gets me into conflict when mowing is required, as it takes away the bloom that bees thrive on. it regrows in no time though and generally improves the overall condition of the lawn. with current temps it also helps avoid the dried up patches. no need to spray paint lawn here.

>>509214906
Use food grade hydrogen peroxide diluted down to 3% - Jesus Christ - it’s dirt cheap

>>509206861 (OP)
>Is everything else on this board also true?
If you only knew, /fit/izen here and people are so far removed from nature it's fucking absurd how we got propagandized into living such unnatural lives

Every disease today is manmade, most people have vitamin or mineral deficiency yet they focus on fucking protein and fibre, hell even the rich and powerful get shit advice like RICE (rest, ice, compression, elevation) method for recovering joints when the EXACT OPPOSITE has been the truth (google lebron james with ice packs on knees, ice damages joints and only does more damage)
80% of people have magnesium deficiency
90% of people have vitamin D3 deficiency
70% of people have zinc deficiency
etc etc

and guess what? Due to overtilling and overusing of soil we no longer can get these minerals and vitamins from plants/animals, only through supplements, which ARE MADE WITH TITANIUM DIOXIDE which is fucking bad for our health

>>509215589
Hydrogen peroxide is a godsend. You can kill all types of pests with it too.

Get ready for the shit Storm maggot.
The one that whips away that miserable thing you call a life.

His mushroom slurry magic is to over powered.

>>509215012
>>509215372
Observation bias. Any genuinely intelligent American would avoid talking to an EU faggot as much as possible. Obviously. So the only Americans Eurofags talk to are the ones that are dumb enough to believe Europeans are worth talking to to begin with.

>>509206861 (OP)
>Is everything else on this board also true?
there is a polarity on this board.
you get drooling retards (mostly leaf and india flags) or you get highly intelligent autists. if you have a decent bullshit detector 4chan can be a very useful source of information.

>>509208576
Clover attracts bees which makes grass unwalkable/unplayable
>guy who owns grass

>>509210970
>responding to tone
Either you're a woman or a faggot

>>509210402
A friend tried micro clover because his grass was shit and dry.
First year it was nice and green but he cut it when it was too high, like 9 to 12 inches easily, and I assume he cut it when it was flowering so it shocked the plants and they couldn't reseed.
The next year there is little to no clover, grass is shit again while his neighbors it's green as fuck and perfect.
500$ down the drain again lol.
I once bought blueberries and haskaps, he wanted some, they all died next year.. he has a green thumb he said.
Some people are just not made to handle plants I guess.

>>509210066

Based clover debunker.

The problem is these niggers are too lazy to maintain a lawn, so they come up with all these bullshit "no maintenance" lawn schemes. None of them work. If you want an aesthetically pleasing lawn, you have to spend time every week maintaining it. You have to mow, fertilize, and weed. No different than you have to tend, fertilize, and weed fruits and vegetables.

My favorite is "I'm just going to plant wildflowers". Oh yeah, that's so simple, and think of all the beautiful native flowers with no work whatsoever. Why didn't everyone else think of that? What a fucking genius.

Fact is, any patch of dirt that you do no maintenance to will turn into an overgrown unsightly vacant lot full of the worst, most aggressive, weeds that thrive in your area. Your stupid "wildflower lawn" will have 3 daisies in year 1, then after that, it will be a tangled mess of 4 foot tall weeds. Go look at the lawns in the vacant lots in Detroit, that's your fucking "wildflower lawn".

>>509209171
Blue grass in Ohio, stops growing when it’s hot, stays green in the winter

143 comments, not a single "touch grass" poster has come to apologize.

>>509215805
sorry to hear, but decent men don't have such prejudice. the d&c typically comes from the rootless.

>>509206861 (OP)
Clover is obsolete now, everyone's using OpenCore

>>509209171
Whatever your local Lowes or Home Depot sells in store is what will work in your area.

>>509216572
Touch gr_ass?

>>509211578
>50/50 with diesel
Are you advocating spraying diesel fuel as a component in a herbicide solution?

>>509216912
I am if it's 5 inch thick poison ivy vines on the barn.

>>509216625
Germans get a hallpass since Hitler sterilized all your retards, but you're really stretching it these days.

>>509210921
>Lawns started as a way for aristocracy to flex...

It still is. If you're well-to-do and white, you have a beautiful carpet of green grass. If you're poor, black, or lazy, your yard looks like shit, and you have to invent new cope to deal with it. "Muh environment", "muh bees", "muh clover", "muh wildflowers".

My lawn is beautiful. My neighbors' lawns are all beautiful too. I live in a nice area. All white people with well maintained properties, comfy and aesthetic.

>>509216512
maintenance is required, no doubt. clover spreads via root too. i mow lawn once or twice a week, not too short, and the clover is back in no time. usually i'll wait till most bloom is faded. it does work here, but ofc depends on a number of factors. precipitation/watering, the temps in the area, the soil and and.

>>509216877
picrel, it's the dog shitting on your lawn right now, anon

>>509210511
school closed around 2010. nobody knows what to do with it, it's been a community center, or something or other a couple times.
the grass is mostly brown/dead due to not being cared for at all but there's still green patches of clover everywhere

white clover works just fine. have it all over but never had to fertilize any of it, just occasionally mow it, though it is mostly not on the actual lawn but on all the surrounding area that is being kept short but not mown

>>509216823
leave it to australians to understand the value of good boots

>>509217022
Yeah, but the diesel will stay in the dirt, while supposedly the aforementioned herbicide at 100% strength would be sufficient without the long-term pollution, and there are other binders better than diesel if you want the herbicide to hold up better to the environment.

>>509216912
No!! If you use it in a sprayer you want to dilute it down to about 0.5 to 2% and apply in large drops (not mist) to foliage. You may need to make several applications but you want to wait at least a week in between them and observe how it reacts. Usually for younger plants that are still green and not barked over.

The 50/50 diesel mix is expected to be performed with 40% Triclopyr. You DO NOT spray it. You apply it with a brush onto a freshly cut stump. Although if you're being lazy you can also apply it to the bark and it will still do the job. The diesel combines with the Triclopyr and acts as an oily carrier that penetrates through and gets into the roots and rhizomes. It will usually kill them in one shot, you rarely need to reapply more than once. Although it can take a couple of weeks in order for the death to occur. This is more for very mature plants that have well established rhizome networks that can be almost impossible to kill otherwise.

Like I said, it is a miracle herbicide.

>>509217434
Yhea, unless it's 5 inch thick poison ivy vines it's totally over kill and toxic.

>>509209821
Honey bees are literally NIGGERS. They steal all the pollen from native pollinators, leave DISEASES on the flowers and only survive because white men clean their shit.

>>509206861 (OP)
I left clover take over half of my lawn and I love it. Best lawn decision ever. Less mowing and the bees and insects use it for food and shelter.
My ASSHOLE NEIGHBOR put up a spite fence to block anyone's view of it. lol
Thanks for the free privacy fence, liberal-TV-for-brains.

>>509206861 (OP)
I never touch clovers whenever I'm weeding my lawn. Clovers are friend shaped.

>>509206861 (OP)
cope

>>509206861 (OP)
>is everything else on this board true
if you have the mental capacity to sift shill bullshit away from what actual anons are saying then yes.

now, anyway, let me explain why this works and why monoculture grass, or anything, needs inordinate amounts of support for it to thrive. Plants do not simply take nutrients from the soil, they also change the makeup of the nutrients in the soil. Some plants remove more nitrogen than others, some conversely add nitrogen, and it is the same with everything else in the soil. like how if you plant certain vegetables near others then the taste of those vegetables will be different. its not becuase of their pollen getting mixed but rather because their roots are too close. move those same plants 5 feet over, close enough that pollinators would still mix pollen from both plants, and the taste difference wont be there.

megabrain moment: the roots of a plant arent just some structure that they use to get food/water. it is more like anenomes and coras, both of which engage in open warfare against nearby corals that they dont like. Which is funny when you consider "muh great peaceful reefs are dying" the reefs are literal warzones.

anyway, a plants roots do the same thing. all plants have the ability to move somewhat, in some it is more obvious than others, if you touch a plant that it reaching for another plant it will curl around your finger on its own. The roots are no different in this regard, they go where they want to go and they will purposely swarm the roots of nearby plants that they dont like.

>>509209476
whomst?

>>509215372
HOAs are extremely common in southern states. I've lived all over the country. In New England, yes HOAs are very rare, but in states like Texas, HOAs are the norm and you'd be hard-pressed to find a house that's not part of an HOA (with the exception of houses on farmland)

>>509216014
>>509208576
You're both faggots
> t guy who's familiar with faggots

>>509217480

How do you get rid of violets? Those things resist any herbicide.

>>509210050
youre not white if you dont love bumblebees

>/pol/ lowkey being the best gardening board

>>509217682

Beautiful lawn. No shitty looking clover patches or dandelions.

A white family lives there.

>>509206861 (OP)
we replaced a section of our grass with clover 3 years ago so we didn't have to mow as often in that part of the yard and it is always green however for some reason most of it dies and doesnt come back as well and we have to reseed yearly. it looks cool coming up though like a blanket

>>509216014
I'd be ok with that but I don't have kids. My yard is mainly there as a buffer between the house and others. Deer, rabbits, and bees are all fine. If it gives cover to yellow jackets, roaches, and house invading insects, that'd be an issue.

>>509206861 (OP)
>>509206964
>>509207004
>>509207030
There's a reason "holy ground" in homm3 was just clovers

>>509217974
Dandelions help bring nutrients to the roots of neighboring plants. They're a good thing.

>>509218017
>I don't have kids
You have a home but not any kids? Why?

>>509206861 (OP)
>Is everything else on this board also true?
A short, non-exhaustive list of /pol/ memes that are shilled but aren’t true:
>space isn’t real
>viruses aren’t real
>moon landing is fake
>telegony
>Jews are Neanderthals
A lot of it is true, though. I took the cloverpill and just mulch my lawn and don’t spray shit on it because my kids play there.

>>509217556
Local carpenter bee continues to spread information deamed as antisemitic by the JDIF.

>>509208793
but I have a ride on lawn mower with a cup holder

>>509217720

Yeah, I'm in New England, they don't exist here.

Must be good for keeping black people out, mexicans, and white trash. If you maintain your property, I would imagine that HOA rules are common sense.

I bet people who bitch about them are the ones who want to have a burned out car in their front yard with a blue tarp over it.

>>509215589
>>509215736
Doesn’t that merc all the beneficial microbes in the soil tho?
Also do you spray it on foliage or just roots?

>>509217974
That's unironically a beaner-kept lawn. Cope. White people are lazy stupid and incompetent at groundskeeping.

>t. beaner

>>509217266
I like how your narrative went from a 30-year established field of clover to a few years old dead field with clover patches.

Bullshit absolutely confirmed.

>>509217845
why would you want to get rid of violets?

>>509217652
>clovers are friend shaped
some clovers are fag shaped

>>509216877
kys

>>509218095
Telegony -is- real though.
Worse still is that affects behavior of the female so that that behavior itself is what (also) gets exposed to the child and the child can learn.

>>509217086
I truely don't know how he pulled that off, clover has a good root system and yes it should live even if it can't reseed itself the the year after.
He watered his lawn, the clover lawn revolution was his pride and joy for a year, he bragged about it left and right, and then it literally all disappeared and turned into a humiliation ritual lol
Is this gods punishment for being obese, a fan of Andrew Tate, and letting a nigger smoke pot in his daughters bedroom and more?

>>509206861 (OP)
Clover is not a bad ground cover in certain spots.. pretty hearty and keeps the ground from getting torched from the sun.. if you throw that on top of good grass, the good grass (st augustine) it will come back healthy and over take the weeds (clover)

>>509218048
>Dandelions help bring nutrients to the roots of neighboring plants. They're a good thing.

>Muh nutrients

I hear you saying this: "Dandelions are a pain in the ass to weed, due to their long tap root. I'm too lazy to weed my lawn, so I'll cope by coming up with some half-assed explanation for why I should leave them. Who cares if my yard looks like a vacant lot."

>>509218182
Just because you cut the grass there doesn't make it yours.

>>509206861 (OP)
Clovers are way more usefull because you can eat them. You can make a salade or a soup with the leaves and sirup with the flowers.

>>509206861 (OP)
You're welcome.

>>509218135
well the HOA problem is that insufferable catlady girlbosses gravitate to the board.

>>509218310
So you're saying you're a lobster

>>509218329
Just because you pay uncle sam a permanent blackmail tax doesn't make it yours.

I took the cloverpill 2 years ago and everything was great until burweed this year. No idea how to kill it without glyphosate so we had to wear shoes all spring.

>>509218364
same with violets
dandelions taste like crap though. dunno why people eat them

>>509218310
I told you the truth. Champion tomato growers prays for dandelions or just transplant them.

>>509209430
>hundreds of years
It’s a new world crop don’t act like it’s part of European history. Smoking is terrible for you

>>509207426
Heart t heart t heart t heart t filtered.

>>509218297
One of the biggest problems with this whole thread is that half the people here don't understand what the difference is between a lawn and ground cover.

And you know the threat is finished when some hipster faggot starts talking about dandelion tea. Like clockwork I swear to God.

>>509218235
Grandma made me pet her pubic bush.

It was this thick I tell you.

>>509206861 (OP)
>>509207004
Clover is so based
Truly the white man's plvnt

>>509218182
>That's unironically a beaner-kept lawn. Cope. White people are lazy stupid and incompetent at groundskeeping.

That's what I said, a white family lives there. So we agree.

Let me explain to you...When you're white and well-off, you pay poor brown people to do chores that you don't want to do. For you, that means you mow my lawn. Or, you can do things like pump my septic system.

You see that as "lazy" or "incompetent". To me, my leisure time is valuable to me. I don't even pay attention to the pittance I pay manual laborers to cut my grass.

>>509215517

> through pulling weeds, and spraying weed killer and throwing down grass seed, I managed to make my lawn all grass only

Lawns shouldn't be grass only anyway. "Weeds" are native plants, natural and good for the local ecosystem, as long as you mow the grass regularly you don't have to be a bitch about it. You're posioning the land you live on because of a retarded meme designed to sell you stuff you don't need

>>509206861 (OP)
Clover is legitimately superior to grass.
>more hardy
>often native
>less ticks
>height-limited

I do nothing with my yard except occasionally cut it so it's not a total jungle.

Fresh cut clovers look really nice, but if you let the flowers grow you'll attract a ton of bees, which is a mixed bag. I keep a little section overgrown for them off in the corner.

>>509208576
Rabbits and deer don't uproot the plants when they browse. It's no different than what your lawn mower would do. You're full of shit.

>>509216014
LMAO! You hysterical woman.

>>509218223
>why would you want to get rid of violets?

Violets are insanely invasive. If you leave them unchecked, they will take over an entire lawn within like 3 years.

You have manually dig them out and spray the living shit of them constantly, and it's still difficult to keep them under control.

>>509218310
Dandelions are precursor plants. They grow only in a compact soil, that's why they love cracks in the sidewalk. They have strong roots to open the soil and should naturally leave a place when the soil is aerated after 2-3 years.

>>509218684
>admits he can't maintain his own lawn
kek
paying people smarter than you to do your chores isn't the own you think it is.
>LAWM MOWER CASH COW GOES BRRRRRRRR

>>509210703
> My dad got parkinsons because I'm allergic to bug spray and I can't wear open toe footwear because my feet pour with sweat and I slip and slide all over the place, so I drenched his pillows in the same spray until they were soaking and let them dry and put them back on his bed. He was diagnosed 18 months later.

The fuck?

>>509216877
you nigger

>>509208721
I'm still waiting for Blue Tiger to make that fucking redpill video about it, he's been teasing it for ages.
The trick though is cigars and pipe. You're not supposed to inhale it like wannabe alphas brag about doing. The nicotine receptors are in the mouth, not the lungs.

>>509218418

Again, if you buy property in one, you are agreeing to the rules. If you don't like the rules, don't buy property there. It's the simplest concept ever.

Rule: Your lawn should be mowed

"But I don't want to mow my lawn! The HOA is being mean to me."

>>509209171
I think corn is technically a grass.

You could try that.

>>509211578
Off-label use of pesticides is a federal offense

>>509218598
>And you know the threat is finished when some hipster faggot starts talking about dandelion tea.

"Weeds are beautiful and good for you! Take the weedpill!"

>>509206964
Yarrow is good too, nice and soft

>>509218798

Yeah, great plan. So if I have a 1 acre lawn, all I need is 5 million dandelions in it to "aerate" my soil. Why didn't I think of that.

>>509206861 (OP)
>>years ago read a schizo-post saying all grass seeds used to have clover seeds mixed in but the evil seed companies stopped doing it to sell more fertilizer and sprinklers
This is true. They even ran Chuck out of business with their shady tactics so they could move in on his prime real estate.

>>509215372
HOA is basically a condiminium corp/strata right where you're expected to pay monthly fees on top of your mortgage?
We have that here and I have a buddy who bought a piece of shit newbuild Manhattan style townhouse for close to a $1,000,000 in our monopoly money around covid time.
His mortgage is like $3500 and he has to pay $1200 a month in condo fees and get this, his fees cover landscaping and snow plow removal but he has no grass and his garage is literally on the curb so there's no driveway.
Shit is such a fucking scam.
I could never imagine paying $4700 so month for a piece of shit new build.

>>509218906
That asshole neighbor of mine sterilized himself with atrazine. He and his wife wanted kids for years and I even warned him of the dangers, but he didn't listen to me. He never listened to me. Thank God he's moving away.
He's been taking out his frustrations on me for many years, basically treating me like an indolent son of his. lol

>>509219010
Bruh it never stops at just that and you know it

>>509219174
You make the dandelion tea or you will learn no witch craft from me.

>>509219379
>uh uh uh! your fence will have to come down!
>*it's one centimeter too tall*
>uh uh uh! Did you just paint your house ceder red? I DON'T LIKE IT! FINES INCOMING!
>uh uh uh! Do you own more than two pets? I', calling the city to have the others picked up and killed.
>I am your friendly neighbor :)

>>509218801
>paying people smarter than you to do your chores isn't the own you think it is.

You aren't smarter, your labor is just worth much less than mine. The pinnacle achievement in your life is that you operate a weedwacker for rich people, and you're crowing about it, like it's a flex.

>>509211000
checked trips of truth
>>509218789
They're aggressive, but not invasive. There are several violets native to America.

>>509219010
Don't know how it is in the states but I've heard of people here getting notices for having work decals on their work vehicles if parked at their residence and threaten to tow if not taken care of.
To me that kind of shit is over the top and the boomer niggers that probably run the board thrive on that shit because they're retired.

>>509219702
You aren't connected to the land you live upon. Shameful. Probably too weak to even lift a string trimmer lmao. Show wrists, noodle arms.

>>509219379

What are the examples?

There are written rules. I guarantee 95% of the complaining is people trying to bend or get around the specific rules they don't like, then bitching about it.

Rule: You can only have a 6 foot fence.

"I put up a 7 foot fence, and those assholes at the HOA made me take it down! WTF! It was only 12 inches higher than the written agreement I signed!"

>>509219010
Nigger, HOAs have tried to enforce shit on OTHER private property, they're insane. They're a cancer.
Google "not part of HOA, receiving complaints."

>>509219722

Yep, that's them. How do I eradicate those motherfuckers?

>>509219801
>To me that kind of shit is over the top and the boomer niggers that probably run the board thrive on that shit because they're retired.
You know it.
>I got mine....so let's sabotage everyone else as we listen to The Beach Boys! :^)

>>509219834

You probably rent. lol

>>509216877
Fucking faggot.

>>509219801
I have experienced this global hommo too.

Slap on slap off Company logo vinyl magnets on the work truck.

>>509220015
>OMG IS THAT A PRETTY FLOWER??!?!?!?
>I NEED CHEMICALS TO KILL IT

You are mentally ill.

>>509219939
I'm allowed a 7' fence, but I'm smart enough to raise the land beforehand by 2'.

>>509219801

I assume there are rules in the HOA prohibiting commercial vehicles from being parked out in the open? If you don't like that rule, then don't buy a house there. Simple, no?

>>509211086
The anon you replied to is a HOA golem

>>509220008
I would find that neighbor and wreck their home and yard when they're gone.

>>509220189
Slap on slap off.

Remember to eat shit daily and seeth.
>>509220097

>>509218210
I live in the desert. Anything green is unusual. There is still some grass and hundreds if not thousands of 2 inch high 3 foot diameter clover patches.
If the school was still open they probably would've replaced everything with monsanto bullshit.

>>509219174
>Did you know putting sticker burrs up your urethra boosts your immune system naturally?

>>509220008

If I'm not part of an HOA, they have no authority over me. They can complain all they want. Feel free to send me letters complaining, and I'll toss them right in the trash.

Picrel sounds like this guy is in an HOA, where I guarantee there are rules against building shit like tree forts. They made him take it down, and now he's crying about "muh kiddos". No sympathy for that faggot. If he's that emotionally invested in a tree fort, move to the country and build away.

>>509206861 (OP)
Modern grass is a scam. It's all based on this exotic African grass that doesn't grow well outside the Savannah. The only reason we think it's normal is because of HOAs who claimed it would bring up property values.
>>509207030
TRVTH
Farmers used to plant clover to help fields recover. It also helped feed the livestock and between the clover and the pig shit a field could recover enough for economic farming in under a year.

>>509220170
>I'm allowed a 7' fence, but I'm smart enough to raise the land beforehand by 2'.

Now this is genius.

>>509206861 (OP)
I think there's just specific types of stuff you can buy. There's also a wide variety of clovers available that are 100% clover. In any case, death to the grass jew and its monocultural hellscape.

>>509209154
my lawn for one sucks
I admittedly know about nothing about lawns, but it sucks noticeably because of the clover that makes patches, and has been in flowers for weeks
clover also is weird to walk on, almost as weird as moss
and the claim in the thread that they stay green even in the sun is moot: clovers only sprouts in the shaded areas, in my law

the place I re-scarified (did it earlier to get rid of moss), laid and flattened a bit of dirt, sewn with seeds, then laid and flattened a bit of dirt again are pretty cool
no clover in those, fwiw (I wouldn't even cared if it was green and nice to walk on, but clover is never the latter, to me)
I don't put chemicals and only water the first few days when I've sown
I'll probably do that to the patchy places, and the places with clover, desu (only did about 1/5th of the lawn, to try that method)

>>509211000
Red pill requested

>>509220534
And there's not a darn thing they can do. The trick is to raise the land a year or two ahead of time. ;)

>>509220008
If i had to bow to powertripping faggots like this id probably end it.
In a comical and bloody machete massacre

>>509218140
Yes, it does but here here’s an example. I had tons of pepper plants that were densely covered in aphids. I try to grow everything from seed however we were busy this year and I picked up some starters from a local nursery. I really thought I was going to lose the pepper plants so I misted 3% hydrogen peroxide onto the leaves and poured straight 3% liquid around the soil where the immediate root ball would be located. I did this three times over the course of a week. All of the aphids died. All of the leaves fell off the pepper plants, which then regrow and started producing peppers. It was of my first experiments with hydrogen peroxide as an insecticide. So while it did destroy all types of beneficial bacteria in the process, there must have been soil surrounding the roots containing beneficial bacteria which was unable to re-establish itself while the aphids are all dead. Food grade, hydrogen peroxide. No dawn soap needed. Just like with anything the dose makes the poison.

>>509220620
Asthma inhalers with stuff put in them intensionaly to cut your lungs to make you more dependent on asthma inhalers.

They do this kind of thing constantly....

>>509206861 (OP)
Or just use a different breed of grass. Can't find it in Kikefornia can you, shitlib?

>>509220409

>Muh wildflower lawn
>All native species
>Clover for nitrogen
>I make tea from the dandelions

>>509212373
Clover is everywhere already where there is grass. Not invasive in most places. And the few places where it is is mostly one species of clover that is the problem.

>>509220961
I am calcium deficient limp wristed faggot.

Quickly s_0_Y bot open the bottle my strength is weaning.

>>509211000
>>509211000
the fucker who started growing rice by just throwing raw grains into dried out weeds while asian grandmas spent their entire lives bent in two over rice paddies broke me a few years ago. Then i started studying permaculture and i realized that we have no actual understanding of natural cycles because there is simply no funding in it. If it cannot be reliably repeated/scaled up, it doesn't exist. No money in it, no research, thus it's "Not real". It's like the entire industrialized world got tunnel vision, where scalable + mechanized = good, when in truth it all rests on cheap human labor filling all the gaps at once.
Worst of all, i was a biomed student and i realized that back then (2015) we didn't know what caused myopia even though it was known for over a century (eye strain in low light conditions).
This is functional medicine even exists, because a fucking PhD gastroenterologist cannot answer "what happens when there is positive gaseous pressure in the duodenum? " with any certainty. Personal experience. In fact he claimed it "cannot happen". Then in 2021 we found out that not only it is possible, but common too.
Clown world became long ago and only got worse.

It's not that science is bad or doesn't work, it's that humans just make gods out of every little thing around them, then immediately confirmation bias and build entire societies around it.

>>509219112
It's literally on the material data safety sheet, faggot.

>>509206861 (OP)
you know how I know almost all of you are larping?
>picrel
>Total Lawn Death

>>509218040
I don't remember holy ground having obstacle tiles looking like clovers. Is that a mod?

Yup, great source of calcium.

Moo....

>>509211858
it's subsidized because it's profitable, and it's profitable because it's repeatable. A secure supply line just raises margins in an industrial setting. You need to match volumes and just-in-time deliveries without fail, 365 days per year. You're not going to use anything that can't be easily produced at volume regardless of external conditions, because that builds trust, and trust is profitable in a world where trust gives value to currency, not goods. It's honestly amazing how the entirety of clown world is only given by one thing alone: the US dollar being fiat

>>509221458
Oh right the "lawn" faggot.

>>509220961
Kek
We got one that can see!

>>509211329
>Duh, it provides shade
>The sun sterilizes the ground and the bacteria in it
>If you cut it short, you need ground cover foliage
holy fucking moron. have you ever seen a lawn? grass, no matter how short you cut it, "provides shade." that's why you can't see the fucking dirt.

also, the sun does not "sterilize the dirt"... jesus fucking christ you are stupid. yes UV kills a lot of microorganisms, but that would apply to only the top microscopically thin layer of dirt. sunlight doesn't penetrate dirt, dipshit. so even if some tiny sliver of the surface is "sterilized" by UV, the rest isn't.

so no, you absolute moron. clovers are not saving the dirt from UV sterilization thus allowing themselves to grow better than grass when grass has that same effect.

where do your levels of stupidity come from?

where do these kind of retards come from?

>>509221642
You shouldn't call yourself a faggot. Wait, are you one?

>>509220445
>If I'm not part of an HOA, they have no authority over me.
You know this. I know this. The HOA doesn't necessarily know or accept this. They'll pretend to have authority over you in an attempt to railroad you into joining an HOA. Sometimes they'll even harass you until you join.

>>509216513
Lawns are the scam, why are we all competing with each other to look like we have the most meticulously over-managed medieval lord courtyards? Enjoy the endless amount of poison you will expose yourself to along with bottomless pit of spent money, all to look out at your lifeless void of a lawn and say "golly gee it sure is neat and green :)" unless you are a golfer or you need a flat green space to play sportball in, just turn it into a wildflower bed with trails through it. What else were you gonna do with the land anyways? Look at it? Sit in the lawn and browse 4chan on your phone?

This man is a shill for big lawncare at worst or a retard at best. So many false dichotomies and straw men in his desperate plea for monoculture and chemical products. If you can't live without your primped, preened, irrigated 2.5 inch high kentucky bluegrass, go move to a subdivision with all the other boomers dying of roundup poisoning. You'll get along great.

>>509221678
So what do we do now?

Strap Granny to the plow and cultivate the ground from the sweat off her old wrinkly brow.

>>509220961
>I make tea from the dandelions
What a fag, everyone knows nettle tea is better.

>>509214370
>then why do sterile grown hydroponics plants grow larger and produce more?
it tastes like shit or has no taste at all,the dutch are the biggest veg producer in eu if i remember correctly,lots of it hydro,none of it has any real taste to it,it just looks really pretty and big...good soil cant be beat

>>509211488
>>509210729
>>509208946
Glyphosate gave my grandma ass cancer to death.

Millennials and gen Z aren’t using asscancer poison on their lawns?
Oh no, what will the Jew have to come up with next? Oy vey

>>509221705
To add to what you told the other anon:
Blackberries tend to only grow in sun-drenched/scorched areas and they fight cancer, provide security, and are delicious.

>>509206861 (OP)
reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrQiVcsglXI&list=RDFrQiVcsglXI&start_radio=1

>>509211000
That depends on how many people you need to feed. A couple hundred? No problem! A couple million? Time to grab the fertilizer.

That being said, a home garden is Perfect for regenerative farming.

>>509220992
Anything invasive that goes to seed should not be maximized. The crimson clover is fairly common on roadsides but I have no desire to go planting a bunch of it. You can get some good native flowering mixes very easily also if youre into that.

Now, on the other hand the grasses are non native also but having dealt with clover extensively it does not compete with a good grass lawn if well kept. People want to be special and different but there is a reason grass is so popular and convenient. And dont give me this boomer shit either- the best form and functionality is well kept grass lawn plus native shade trees woth native flowering trees/shrubs underneath and then native shrubs and flowers in beds nearby.

A grass lawn checks alot of boxes for the high traffic areas around a house. I have a few square miles of woods that it backs up to so if I want to carve out six acres around my house and have the lawn look like a golf course I dont see the harm.

I am a proponent of grass lawns and I say this as someone who probably wasted more time piddling in the woods and collecting seeds and transplanting native trees and plants than Id like to think about. The woods are the woods. Your yard is your yard.

>>509221445
Based ground clover will turn your yard into a purple paradise in spring, then just becomes a chill, innocuous groundcover the rest of the year. Plus you can eat it but it's kinda pungently spicy so I don't really care for it.

>>509222069
And blackberries grow from seeds in bird shit.
Shitskins.

This is my racist trope_y get your own.

>>509221998
>Lawns are the scam, why are we all competing with each other to look like we have the most meticulously over-managed medieval lord courtyards?

Found the brown person.

White people have pride of ownership of their property, and we keep it well maintained. It gives our white neighborhoods their superior and exclusive aesthetic. Enjoy your weed infested scrubby lot "with trails through it".

>>509222526
So what? However, that is not that case for most of my blackberries. One bush I transplanted myself and another came about by me throwing rejects.

>>509208576
Free meat oh no

>>509222069
I disagree. Brambles are one of the most common plants in the woods here. Upland, bottomland, full sun part shade doesnt matter. They are almost a scourge. I have miles of firebreaks that are basically just a lane cut through wall to wall brambles head high. The upland brambles do taste better though. And the dew berry tastes better than the blackberry.

>>509209902
It’s not at big tobacco levels yet, anon. plus you can still grow your own. Maybe another 20 years for full market capture then another 10-20 years to sneak in the poison. Our grandchildren will be looking at weed smokers the same way we look at our pack a day smoking grandparents

>>509206861 (OP)
You are confusing cause and effect. Clovers grow in wetter areas where less rainwater drains away.

>all grass seeds used to have clover seeds mixed in but the evil seed companies stopped doing it to sell more fertilizer and sprinklers
this won't stop wild clover from spreading to your lawn, most lawns don't need repeated seeding, this is only in America where you feel the need to irrigate arizona and make it look like some temperate northern region

>>509206861 (OP)
That's wayyy too much clover in the right pic

>>509221998
Just don't do anything. I barely do anything and literally no one cares. Nobody is going to force you except for the HOA I suppose if you unfortunately have one. Some people enjoy gardening and lawncare. There's nothing wrong with having hobbies.

>>509210402
can confirm the "doesn't grow much" can be a thing
the clover that naturally grows in shaded patches in my lawn is like that
doesn't grow high at all, and walking on it does nothing to it
it's still pretty shit, because its all in flowers for a long ass time and doesn't looks so great
so the "stays green" is bullshit with it, particularly since it only grows in shaded places
and it's pretty weird to walk on it (almost like on moss)

>>509222690
Hmmmm well, studies have shown that your post is gay and that you gobble nigger ballsacks.
I'm convinced half of the nature-hating posts are from jealous anons who live in barren shitholes.

>>509207030
>You should seed a mixture.

I'll seed 'er my mixture with my seeding fixture

>>509222671
We had a 60 foot row of black berries.

Seeds the birds shit out then we just let it take over the cucumber fence.

Not bad shit at all.

>>509222578
>pride of ownership
>well maintained
>superior and exclusive aesthetic
>expensive
>time-intensive
>labor-intensive
>lifeless void
>boring to look at
>really nothing to be done besides stand there and wonder what went wrong

Hahahahha okay grass jew, enjoy paying out the nose to get cancer later in life! Maybe you'll have a nicely manicured lawn to look at out the window when you're getting chemo treatment later in life.

>>509220189
I don't live in a HOA community, my house is in a township that doesn't have this type of shit.
These are just things I've heard from family and friends that live in these style of communities.

>>509220097
Kek that's not a bad idea.
The wildest thing I heard was somebody who works from home remotely getting a notice to cease and desist from operating a commercial business in their house, the guys wife is an accountant and has no advertising or anything on their home lol and the HOA threatened to evict within 90 days or some shit.

>>509222525
there's a reason we use grass.
it's because even when dormant it holds the topsoil in one place.
you grow clover or let alehoof take over your lawn all your topsoil will was away with the rain in dormancy.
stop larping.

Clover is based because bunnies like it.
I enjoy watching the little bunnies munch on clover.
If you don’t plant clover for the little bunnies then you’re not White. Bunnies are the White man’s rodent.

>>509222815
>this is only in America where you feel the need to irrigate arizona

This has been happening since ancient Egypt. Why do you even care what we do in Arizona? How does it affect you, other than to trigger you for some bizarre reason. You're literally angry that we expanded a city in a desert. lol

If someone wants to be special with your lawns, there are some things you can do that are region specific but they are not year around things. It takes some understanding of your region and seasonal cycles.

So where I live in early spring I will often hold off on mowing to let the red sorrel and toad flax (weather permitting) come in in certain little padlocks and patches on the edges of the lawn. It looks nice, but once it plays out it looks like shit.

So what I do is let the red sorrel and toadflax come in for a few weeks, that early the grass isnt growing super fast anyways and then start mowing after the sorrel plays out. Here is an example of a little spot I let come in like this every year. Once the Bahia starts though you have to mow mow mow.

>>509223005
Magnificent.

>>509217974
kys faggot

>>509222929
I've got walls of brambles that are literally impassable. There is no reason to plant them, there's more in the woods than I could ever use. Same with wild grape

>>509218065
I was raised by a single mother so I am unable to trust women. I prefer a house to living in a communal hive. I tried condo and apartment living. It sucked. A house has more responsibility attached to maintaining it but I'm fine with that. The peace of having my own space far exceeds any extra work I have to put into maintaining it.

>>509223182
>The wildest thing I heard was somebody who works from home remotely getting a notice to cease and desist from operating a commercial business in their house, the guys wife is an accountant and has no advertising or anything on their home lol and the HOA threatened to evict within 90 days or some shit.

Let's recap this "wild" situation...

- HOA has rules that you can't operate a commercial business out of your home.
- Wife signed a contract agreeing to those rules
- Wife runs a commercial business out of her home
- HOA tells her to stop

>HOA is fucking crazy! They're out of control! This is crazy!

This sounds like "dindu nuffin" black people logic. She's breaking rules that agreed on, and now she's mad she got caught, and somehow this isn't fair? I don't get this logic. No one is forcing her to live there. She signed the contract.

>>509219336
>what is insurance anyway?
I’m on a HOA board and you’d be amazed what has to be accounted for, especially for condos where the exterior envelope is communally maintained.

>>509223437
Gorgeous. Imagine someone falling into them, then wanting to sue. lol
>HOW DARE YOU NOT ROLL OUT THE RED CARPET FOR INTRUDERS?!?

>>509222860
looks designed to cause discomfort. Would be great as a military compound, i guess

>>509223437
Before this thread dies- to any anons in the SE US. I will give you some wisdom I wish I had ten years ago that I've learned.

When you plant things look at what likes to grow in the woods around you. These things will be less troublesome long term. Get seedlings from the woods if you can.

Here is a list of plants I have found grow fast enough to enjoy in your lifetime, are native, and are not troublesome to grow:
>Florida Maple (southern sugar maple)
>Red Maple
>Florida Anise
>Needle Palm
>Southern Magnolia
>Spruce Pine
>Winged Silverbell
>Fringe Tree
>Sparkleberry
>Sweet Bay Magnolia
>Swamp Chestnut Oak
>Southern Live Oak (you wont live to see it mature but they arent slow growers).

>>509223460
Why not adopt or have some random woman carry your kids and raise them on your own?

>>509210703
>trichloroethylene
pretty nasty
my father was a woodworker and woodworking teacher
I remember in his class workshop, when I was a kid: there was suppposed to be a sort of glass walled room with bathes to degrease the tools with trichlo
they never had enough room, so they installed bathes outside too, just next to the working students, lol
can still recognize the smell instantly (it's like bug spray, but seriously overpowering and aromatic, like bugspray mixed with almonds)
my father died from digestive tract cancer, but I think it came from the fine dust (his breath always smelled funny, when he was woodworking: I have a hound nose, so I clearly smelled it was that)
when he died, I found dozens of liters of trichloroethylene, in his workshop
kept some (great for lubricating outside hinges, and the like), gave some to a friend's father who was a mechanics (and who immediately proceeded to use it to degrease his kitchen hood, right above the stove, where it overdripped on since he used copious amounts, lol: just boomer things), and threw away the rest

>>509224036
nigger i am not raising any fucking kids unless I meet the magic unicorn women which is not going to happen

pulling weeds and overseeding grass is the way.

>>509224506
Japanese women exist you know. Find one with White admixture and your children will be White.

>>509224644
this is just a variation on "magic unicorn woman"

>>509224687
lol no. Japanese women exist for sure.

>>509216014
>Clover attracts bees which makes grass unwalkable/unplayable

>>509224766
This. Bees never bother me. Nor do wasps, yellow jackets, or hornets. All friends.
-t. Christian

>>509224900
larping in a basement doesn't attract bees?