>a 40 year old boomer in the 1960s had wider shoulders than literally every weight-lifting, protein-shake drinking, steroid-taking gymcel today
What the fuck happened to men , /pol/? How do we reverse this?

>>509212717 (OP)
i have a weird mix of both. it's common among pennsylvania dutch.

>>509212850
yeah same
germanic dna

>>509212717 (OP)
What did you inherit from genetics side and what you did in your early childhood counts lot.

In the growing stage your muscles and skeleton did not get enough stimulus, later you will not able to rearrange and the base skeletal structure of your body.

So, in the past people went out to the ground, into the nature and played, fell, hit, broke and so. This made them stronger.

>>509212717 (OP)
You're comparing a tall person to a manlet. I am 6 ft 2 and weigh 220lbs by default off 3 basic meals per day without lifting a single weight. Most gymcels are manlets who lift weights because they want to feel "big" and celebrate when they hit 190lbs after 5 years of steroids and "lifting".

>>509212850

no it's cause you didn't do jack shit physical activity with your upper body when you were a kid and your skeletal structure is permanently gimped - you can't START exercisign at 20 and expect to be the same as a lifetime athlete - it does not work that way

so sick of all you weak ass men in permanent cope mode - eat shit

>>509213159
when i was a kid, i played football from 4th grade until i finished college.

>>509212850
>>509212850
No different from right on OP. You just make the assmption that looking like a retard means you must have mong strength. Mongs do tend to have overdeveloped traps in isolation though.

>>509212717 (OP)
That's not your average boomer though that's a hollywood actor

>>509213159
You type like you have a cunt between your legs. Lol so pissy

>>509213159
There is actually some truth to this. While majority is genetics, kids need to be active every single day and start weights/ heavy exercise when they hit middle school, and esp high school. When I was growing up my dad would lock the doors all day so I was forced to make friends around the neighborhood and go out inna woods and build forts and bridges and knock down trees and shit. My bike was my ticket to freedom. It was actually pretty fucking kino in retrospect and I’m glad White people (at least where in live) and raising their kids the same.

you can't cheat genetics

also, dude needs to stop skipping face day

>>509212717 (OP)
>anglo stock who grew outdoors and was employed in his job because of how he looked
>beaner who grew up stood on a street and took roids as cope
Nice comparison m8

>>509213159
Cope.

Chad played Mario cart and still needs to turn his shoulders sideways to pass through a door

>>509213082
I walked around at 205 being 5’6” in high school. Never lost a fight, I was a natty brick shithouse. Never once hit the gym.

>>509212717 (OP)
step 1: stop lifting

>>509212717 (OP)
His shoulder are closer together because he focuses traps and plus he’s flexing trying to make his traps look bigger by shrugging. Deadlifting will make your shoulders broader.

>>509212717 (OP)
The lad on the left is built like a rectangule. Not partcularly aesthetic besides the height

>>509213082
>>509213815
6'1 210 lbs here and I ain’t never touched a weight in my life. First time I set foot in a gym, went in with my nephew. I laid down and benched four plates like it was nothin. These young bucks today? Soft as warm butter

Only queers care.

>>509213815
Haha bro being 205 at 5’6 is obese. Being 225 at 6’2 is just full- framed but could be fat since he doesn’t lift.
Never losing a fight is completely irrelevant.
I bet you weigh even more now but are still 5’6.

>>509212717 (OP)
It's beyond retarded to build muscle without working on mobility/flexibility. The faggot on the left looks so disproportional because his outer muscles are dysfunctional and his inner muscles (and joints etc) are tight and shortened. He has the mobility/flexibility and posture of a +80yr old.

>>509213082
Nah I’m a natural skinnyfag (135 lbs 6’1 is what I always end up at if I’m not eating huge meals every time) I went to jail when I was 18 and realized I was way outstrengthed by dam near everyone and I made it my mission to put some muscle on. I made 190 in about 8 months. I never go above 190 tho by this weight I always have a little layer of fat, I usually cut back to 165lbs and let myself slide back towards 135 until the motivation to eat and lift come back to me. When I’m not trying to bulk I don’t lift, just isometrics and running, (I’m a longtime addict ~14 years, with 6 months clean off dope today) I can say that long distance running is probably the best medicine for someone with mental illness after 4 miles of running my heart out I am cured of autism for usually the rest of the day

>>509212717 (OP)
Mystery meat or sp*c on the right

>>509212717 (OP)
Boomers are generation since end of ww2 until 1964, there were no boomers in 1940s

>>509214251
*born

>>509212717 (OP)
The one on the right is the genetic trash called the mexigoblin. Of course he looks like shit. He even looks like someone put out a fire on his face with an ice pick.

>>509212717 (OP)
He is just too small, which makes his head look disproportionately too large. If he was taller, he wouldn't have this problem.

>>509214179
stretching doesnt really do anything if you have no stability and control of the spine and the hips
the weight should be on the arch of the foot
everything else should be as relaxed as possible

>>509214059
>rectangle
yes exactly? that's exactly how a how hot man should be build, not with hourglasses shape like a tranny macaco

>>509212850
bro

>>509214654
No, men are supposed to be V shapped

>>509214654
You don't have bones in your waist so it makes no sense why it should be as wide as your ribcage.

>>509214756
you have native tribes and thats how humans are built
V shapes are degenerate

yea i thought gymbros were bad 15 years ago but these zoomer gymbros are the worst shit i have ever seen. these faggots barely have any clue about anything but start injecting after 2 months. youre all going to die. when i tell them this they start to sperg at me, noooo chat gpt said this injection is perfect! look here! then they send me some shit chatgpt log where they asked biased questions until the a.i. told them what they wanted to hear. rarely have i seen something more pathetic. i had to ghost some people because they couldnt stop replying with a.i. fucking zoom zooms

>>509214784
because you breathe into your abdominal cavity
children and all kinds of animals have bigger waists

>>509215080
You want to look like a child when you are a grown man?

>>509215222
a child has natural mobility and the vast majority of adults lose it because they don't follow natural progression
people that follow it are naturally gifted or they're native tribes, or east asians who are more observant of proper body mechanics and posturing
it's ironically bullshit postures that one makes to look bigger or 'fit' which cripple his development

>>509214568
>everything else should be as relaxed as possible
That's the point of stretching, memeflaggot. The vast majority of people run around with stiff, shortened muscles forcing them into terrible posture and limiting their range of motion.
If your head moves infront of your chest while resting and standing, you shouldn't "lift", because your neck, shoulder and chest muscles are too tight to support additional muscle mass -- you're just risking injury and effectively limit your already abysmal range of motion.
If you fail to perform basic movements like this:
>https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z3pNAuPvVPU
you frankly have no buisness building muscles until you restored your mobility and flexibility.

Chuck Heston was a natural giga chad with extra broad shoulders. Look at the shoulder width of his male costars in the movies he is in. They are normal even by today's standards. Several of them were not wimps, they selected to make the main character tougher. They played characters who were as tough or almost as tough to make Heston's character heroic or part of an awesome team of men. That gymcel also has gigantic trapezius muscles which give the optical illusion that his shoulders are narrower than normal. I am a femanon by the way. Not defending nor condemning guys who want to gym max. Better than a couch potato and an good self-improvement, but you often can't mask the lack of giga chad genes.

>>509212717 (OP)
You're telling me a guy who was handpicked for a film where he would be displayed shirtless has broader shoulders than some literally who you cherrypicked?

What's the point of this thread, Moshi?

>>509215737
dont know what you smoked but its commonly known by now that stretching causes more injuries than it prevents. stretching is some 20th century garbage

Gymcels are pump addicts and mentally ill (like trannies) dysphoric and insecure pussies (who can't fight), who are stuck in the positive feedback loop of getting a good pump and thinking (since it feels good) "oh this will make me look big, if I'm growing big then that is good because change=good because I just made effort, which means that is good, it can't be bad because it was hard, and everything hard=good". <--- the trap 99% of gymcels fall into, which makes them look like disfigured monster retards who have 0 aesthetic taste and knowledge on what actually visual appeal and beauty is.

>>509216711
>aesthetic taste and knowledge on what actually visual appeal and beauty is.
It's broad shoulders and low bodyfat.

Something is fucked in the US. Everyone I know who didn't grow up in the US shoulder mogs everyone who grew up in the US

>>509215737
When i said relaxed, i didn't mean pulling the muscular tissue as in ''feeling that stretch''. Stretching is okay after physically stressful activity just to relax, i guess mentally more than physically, and it will prevent unnecessary tightening but nothing more than that. If you actually need wider range of movement, then you need stability. You need stability of the hip flexors to to the full squat, not ''flexibility'' of the glutes, hamstrings or whatever. Same with neck and shoulder area, it's really just the spine that puts everything else into balance. If you isolate some xyz muscle, you'll disrupt the kinetic chain and it just becomes pointless.

>>509216973
The beauty of the body is wholistic, from the fingernail on the foot to the hair on the head, and the expression of it all through movement and intelligence. Only monkeys are concerned with reductionist body parts. OMG BIG AASS SOMGG ASS AA BIG ASS OMG A BIG BICEEEPS OMG A TITTSS BIG IBG ITTIS. Ok, Indian monkey. You will never be white

>>509212717 (OP)
I dunno but I've noticed a lot of shoulderlets too. Literally saw a guy who had the shape of an ironing board the other day and felt bad for him, that's even worse than being bald or a manlet.

>>509215737
are german women stiff tho cuz they be packin the best calves in the whole universe

>>509217202
>and the expression of it all through movement and intelligence
Arbitrary social construct. Biological beauty takes higher precedence

>>509212717 (OP)
I was active all day as a kid and have clavicles of average width. Maybe people are just different, you know?

>>509217202
>OMG A TITTSS BIG IBG ITTIS
The White man's choice, unironically.

>>509217155
>If you isolate some xyz muscle, you'll disrupt the kinetic chain and it just becomes pointless.
The point of working on flexibility/mobility is to avoid pointless, dysfunctional isolation. Why do you think "gymbros" waddle around awkwardly? The "gymbro" culture is defined by rushed suboptimal/detrimental and isolationary routines, abysmal supplement-based diets and substances (steroids), hence it creates dispropprtional and malformes hulks with ruined joints, ligaments and other injuries.

>>509217763
>hence it creates dispropprtional and malformes hulks with ruined joints, ligaments and other injuries
Umm evidence?
>Just trust me bro

>>509212717 (OP)
It doesnt matter because you'll never put in the work. If you really wanted it, you'd already be lifting and not worried about some arbitrary timeline.
If someone does tell you a timeframe you find acceptable, you'll go the gym then quit in a few months when you see no progress and then go back to making "how to achieve" threads with a pic of Gooky the anime character waiting for someone to "redpill" you on how to get jacked without doing anything. loser

>>509212717 (OP)

IDK, who cares. I'm convinced that being a "picky eater" and parents allowing it is what caused the manlet epidemic and disfigured generations.

>>509212717 (OP)
testosterone plus nicotine and alcohol

>>509217847
Memeflaggot, responsible gym users are unicorns. Most people interested in the health benefits of excersise take their time to educate themselves and consequently skip the subscription and the industrial waste sold as supplements. You won't find them in a gym, because they'll have learned about Callisthenics and invested a fraction of the money gymcattle spends on the regular on equipment (pull up bar, dip bar, barbells if eveb) and proper diet.

>>509212850
I've always wanted a followup on these guys. Ive never seen anyone look like this. robust phenotypes those amish

This thread seems very important.

>>509212717 (OP)
>>509212850
>start the thread
>first two posts are disingenuous as fuck

you do realise the meme of the amish dudes is that the picture is taken at an angle making them look freakishly wide

also OP has taken a sample size of 1 from two groups for fuck sakes. I hate you retards.

>>509218850
>he doesn't know

>>509217763
I get what you're saying but I'm just very conservative about stretching as well. If you can't do the split, you can stretch to your limit of comfort and with time you'll get there as it gets more and more comfortable, right? I simply don't think this is true. It won't happen if you can't distribute your weight in a stable, non-disruptive manner and this loss of control happens way before any feelings of discomfort. For instance, when you transfer your weight to one foot and the other, at the end of it in needs to be 100% on one foot, while the opposite foot, knee and hip are stable but under zero load.

>>509218913
those look like normal blokes, I can find those very 5 men at my local pub at 8pm. Minus the ridiculous beards.

>>509212850
Yeah, the "farmer's build" - you're genetically put together for heavy labor and fucking up guys who take selfies at the gym.

Bring back marriage traditions in which the father of the bride had ultimate veto. We're on the 3rd-4th generation of women making all mating choices and ignoring any input from their fathers. They are choosing "cute", effeminate men that are more submissive, and masculine traits are dying off. In the past if some weasely effeminate guy was hanging around a woman in your family, the men would compel him to leave. Our faggy law enforcers preventing strong men from being this immune system against weak genes entering their families certainly doesn't help.

>>509218965
>I get what you're saying but I'm just very conservative about stretching as well.
That's reasonable.
>It won't happen if you can't distribute your weight in a stable, non-disruptive manner and this loss of control happens way before any feelings of discomfort.
Yes, hence there's no point bulking up muscles before your body is back to its natural mode of function. Stretching in my book includes working on stability, whereas building muscles exceeds what's naturally necessary to sustain support holds etc. -- adding muscle mass to a body that is neither flexible, mobile nor stable spells disaster.

>>509213021
This is such a brutal thing, like I know it's mostly genetics at the end of the day but it sucks how most people don't realize how they could have influenced their development when it actually counter, just a "thanks for playing LOL" after it's too late

>>509212717 (OP)
Bring back the 80's.

>>509222288
More or less everyone develops problems later in life. Physical laborers, nerds, athletes, ascended tao masters. Nothing gets better for them either.

>>509222632
Talking Heads were annoying as fuck, along with the whole 'world music' phenomenon.
The 80s were wonderful, but Paul Simon, Talking Heads, Peter Gabriel, and a handful of other acts can go straight to hell.

>>509218488
>testosterone
Goyslop is poison. Literally everything has (((sugar))) (look into it)

>>509224265

>>509212717 (OP)
they walk amogus

>>509214230
isn't "gasoline" basically ethanol with added chemicals so that the browns down drink it?

>>509224915
gasoline is refined from petroleum, ethanol is produced from sugar

>>509225310
biodiesel
dont be rama rama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt0NcaxmGHo

>>509212717 (OP)
>compares a white man with a shitskin
OP is low IQ

>>509214230
>Hello I drink gasoline
>all this seething
Kek

>>509213657
Literally mastic gum exists for face day

>>509212850
>>509212717 (OP)
It's not about your traps, it's about your head:shoulder:chest ratio. It's made worse by being a manlet or huge with a pinhead. The guy on the right in OP is prime slave stock.

>>509212717 (OP)
>one has been dealt a good hand
>the other one tries to improve a bad one
Whats the issue here, OP

The guy on the left is leaning back while the guy on the right is curled forward to flex his abs. And no one has ever benched for plates first time in the gym without prior training.

>>509212717 (OP)
>>509212850
>>509214505
>>509218913
>>509222632
/thread

I work out because it’s enjoyable. I feel better and look better. You obese pigs can cope as much as you want.

>>509212717 (OP)
>How do we reverse this?
start smoking cigarettes again

>>509214142
you probably get bitched around by smaller dudes all the time if you think height in a 4chan board matters shit doesn't mean anything bro go outside

>>509212717 (OP)
Dumb gay and retarded, you're going to the GGG

>friend says "You've got some broad shoulders"
>cousin says "I think this family's boys could put on a lot of muscle if they wanted to"
>date says "I like big arms" (I do not have big arms)
I really dropped the ball on life