Thread 509215659

This psyop is tricking young gamers into voting for communism and government overreach

>Business may be possibly forced to dedicate a small amount of work for no direct return after selling people a product and profiting off it
”Oh vey it's another shoah”
It's afraid

>>509215659 (OP)
>publishers and developers might have to have actual EOL plans for vidya so the customer can continue to play the game.
>This means they can't just take the money and run away like a bunch of kikes once the live service game reaches EOL.
>Somehow this is communism.
Oh no. anyway.

>>509215659 (OP)
> owning what I buy with my hard earn money is... le gommunism!
Legitimately retarded. Its not going to work because (they) wouldnt let anything happen to their precious profits, but its worth just to see the mask slip.

>>509215659 (OP)
Who cares. The current system is gay. I'll support whoever shakes things up. Communist, fascist, populist, whatever. I don't care what it is as long as it's something different.

>>509215659 (OP)
Americans on VPNs having a thermal shock reaction from cold war trauma whenever they see anything bad happen to corpos

>>509215659 (OP)
I hope this fails. I want these "games" (multiplayer cancer) to be killed. I've watched video games on average be subject to decline and ruin for decades because the very normalfags that sign this petition infested and subverted games to turn them all into multiplayer faggotry. You get what you fucking deserve.

>>509215659 (OP)
I don't know why but Stop Killing Games doesn't sounds as gamer-friendly as its pretends to be and instead it sounds like another communist movement that demand more government authoritarianism. Besides the fact that this "consumer movement" is shilled so hard from game sites and youtubers is suspicious. Especially when said gaming sites and youtubers also shill for greedy game companies' practises and defend ESG-pandering to video games.

Also the fact that EU also shills for Stop Killing Games is way too suspicious. Same fucking EU that treated Gamergate as a misogynist, racist, terrorist movement. Same fucking EU that use European citizens' tax money to fund ESG-pandering video games. Same fucking EU that bans and censors "problematic" video games.

Also from all serious issues that video games industry has, why should I care more about dead online games? And why should I care about dead online games in the first place? It's like demanding from a restaurant to not shut down just because you want to keep eating there instead of just going to another restaurant.

>>509215762
Just make your own game, commie tranny

>>509217326
Spending money at online games isn't "owning", retard. You don't own a restaurant for eating there.

>>509215659 (OP)
>>509217627
>>509217649
>pirategoyware so utterly btfo he has to resort to shilling on a Vietnamese fly fishing forum
pathetic

Corporatism is good

>>509215659 (OP)
Can you explain why? I'll wait

inb4 1pbtid thread

>>509217627
Then you want this bill to succeed not fail. If it fails, multiplayers always online games will become the industry standard.

>>509217839
YJK

>>509217813
piratesoftware is a pedophile that puts drm in his own games
multiplayer has also ruined games and the very people who caused the state of casual garbage we live in now are the ones complaining about it.
kill all multiplayer games, you get what you fucking deserve
steam is the reason I pirate games, I will recognize an annual holiday when gabe dies or valve goes public

>>509217627
> I want these "games" (multiplayer cancer) to be killed.
Most of them die soon or later. Even big budget ones by Sony that only last for two weeks. Gatcha games also have same fate: if they're not big hit, they shut down in just few months even if they use a popular brand. There's a reason Nintendo stopped caring for mobile phone games the moment they released Switch and it printed money. Also the timing was perfect since few years later the mobile phone games bubble finally ended.

>>509217756
>you will own nothing and you will be happy
behind every memflag is a jew

>>509217813
HUH?

>>509215659 (OP)
its a retarded idea that would only make things worse for gamers. you have to be retarded to think it is a good idea. you're never going to get games that are playable forever. they are not gonna give you their server code. you are just going to be forced into a timed-license model

God I hate gamers. Insufferable man-children.

Been pirating all my life, not going to stop

>>509217649
Your right. The government involvement preventing dumping of toxic waste into rivers and not allowing people to shit in the street is communism too.

All the games I care about are older games at this point so they can be easily pirated or there is an open source implementation of the game engine and assets. If modern games were any good and they are trash then maybe I would care. You couldn't get me to care about modern games

>>509217980
>piratesoftware is a pedophile that puts drm in his own games
whom?

>>509215659 (OP)
A lot of anti consumer bs lately. Kys kike, anything we buy is ours. I hope it gets million signatures. Maybe the EU can unkike us from the mutt bs. Fyi, and even if it doesn't go through I'll pirate and share

>>509215659 (OP)
take your meds anon

>>509218024
I talked about online games, not offline ones. Retard.

>>509218102
>you're never going to get games that are playable forever
The torrented archive I own backed up on my external hard drives says otherwise.
Oh but wait you're talking about multiplayer slop ahaha yeah tough luck pal you deserve it.

>>509215659 (OP)
shut the fuck up nigger

>>509215659 (OP)
>owning your games without corpos revoking them = communism!
They're not sending their best!

>>509215659 (OP)
all games that this applies to are unbelievable dogshit. the reason AAA games are so bad is because normalniggers keep buying that shit and now they want government to protect them from the consequences of their own actions. people who play AAA should get what they deserve

>>509215762
holy fpbp

>>509215659 (OP)
This is very much an issue of theft and fraud. If buying isn't owning then pirating isn't stealing. They sell us a game, they make us believe we're owning a game, they do everything possible to make you believe this, but in reality it's actually a dated concert ticket. Sell me a concert ticket if that's what you want to do and the fact you can tell they understand this because they fight tooth and nail trying to stop regulations that would force them to write this up front.

>>509215659 (OP)
not my heckin' BIN BIN WAHOOS

>>509218311
1000% this
DCSS and Battle for Wesnoth don't have these problems.

What do you mean? I love EU overreach. They made apple seethe, they make LatAm shitty beef merchants cope, they keep corn syrup out of my ketchup.

>>509218311
Not the point of this whole thing. You buy it it's yours.

this wouldnt be an issue if games let you host your own servers like in the past

>>509218102
>purposely make your single player game require an online-check or it won't run
>turn off that server
>this isn't a problem

>>509218363
>If buying isn't owning then pirating isn't stealing.
This is the most millennial soi infused reddit phrase on the internet.
Piracy isn't theft, it's copyright infringement you retarded nigger.

>>509218445
Thread

>>509218435
i'd rather have good AAA games again than worry if i can play my fotm online game that i haven't played in 2 years a decade from now

>>509215659 (OP)
cute VPN you have there, Maldavius Figtree.

>>509217980
>piratesoftware is a pedophile
source?

>>509215659 (OP)
Your brownness beggars belief.

>>509218477
You apparently forget the early 2000s commercials.
>You wouldn't download a car

>>509218477
>This is the most millennial soi infused reddit phrase on the internet.
This is the most millennial soi infused reddit phrase on the internet, yours is just a contrarian faggot version. :)


Well it's definitely not theft because I don't own the game, you can't steal something that can't be owned.

>Game companies ruin their games with ESG-pandering, rushed releases full with bugs, overpriced, half of their content and more being locked behind paid DLCs, day one patches that censor their "uncensored" remakes, big budget games that look worse than mediocre low budget PS3 games, video games banning you forever just for saying a "mean" word once etc
>Commies: *cricket sound*
>Game companies shut down their online games
>Commies: "GAMING IS DYING!"

>>509218497
Those times aren't coming back and it's a thing of personal preference. I rather play some old games that new bs.

>>509218587
Learn to torrent, zoomzoom. Copyright infringement isn't theft.

>>509218536
Don't they call this faggot a roach?

>>509215659 (OP)
>an entire generation raised to believe that "You don't own shit anymore, fucko" is a reasonable EULA for any videogame company to issue to its customers

Yeah

>>509218642
>commies
words have no meaning. you may as well be calling them doughnuts or flibbyfloobies.

>>509218102
We will if we get enough signatures.

picrel really upsets the /v/edditors too.
none of that gay shit matters to a game when the default state is to just torrent a game
the real problem is that the actual developers are illiterate, unread, uncultured, talentless freaks that couldnt recognize a good game if it was fucking them in the ass.

>r*dditors losing their shit over online games being shut down
Just play actual, offline games, retards. Offline games last forever and they're easy to be pirated.

>>509218216
you're being disingenuous on purpose, industry shill. every game now is an online game since that's how they sell you their shitty lootboxs and gay battlepass bullshit

It is moral and justified to pirate videogames that don't have an EOL plan that leaves the game in a resonably playable state, since if buying isn't ownership, then piracy isn't stealing

>>509218670
That's not what I said lmao. Also pirating doesn't work if they embed all the game logic into server code you fucking retard, this impacts you too.

>>509218900
Also, unlike online games, you can actually own offline games. Unless you're a retarded consoomer who spends money on renting Steam games.

>>509217756
Consider.
I buy a single player game. That game should belong to me forever.
However, with steam bullshit, if that game has drm or online activation, I dont own it: as soon as the company wants they can take it away from me.
Which means that I dont own it.
And I'm not a fan of not owning things I purchase. So kill yourself as of now, rat.

qrd

>>509218975
>if they embed all the game logic into server code
Not my problem. You should try playing good games and not supporting multiplayer/mmo canceraids that killed video games in the first place.
I hope your online games keep getting shut down, your reddit tears and reddit movement are fun to laugh at.

>>509219050
>Buying Steam games
Your fault, retard. Either pirate them or buy them at GOG or Switch.

>>509219097
so you're really just doing some unhinged rant, okay, it's actually incredible because if this is really your opinion "Stop Killing Games" doesn't impact you and if anything you should support it because it rapes the companies you hate so much
sorry about the brain rot anon, maybe the early alzheimers will make you happier

>>509218790
no, you won't.
you will be forced into either a game pass type subscription or timed licenses, you will be paying full price for a 1 year license on steam. if you're lucky companies will just circumvent the rules by releasing multiplayer portion as a free dlc. cant complain when something free stops working

>>509218829
I know it seems crazy and outlandish, but I quit the industry just before covid because this exact reason.
The new hires we started getting were every bit the real version of the drawings of picrel on the right. Politics, bitching, openly violating company policies and threatening legislation if they were terminated because of it. The works.

It never got better, it's only tripled

>>509215659 (OP)
QRD what the fuck is this even about? It's for retards who play fortnite and roblox, isn't it?

>>509219050
Consider.
People like you fellate the absolute shit out of valve and steam and are the reason it is a de-juro monopoly today along with its DRM.
I pirate all steam exclusives and will never pay for a single game from that cancer.
You are otherwise correct that steam is assfaggotry that has irreparably harmed games.

>>509219229
>company makes a single player game that has microtransactions
>shut down server for microtransactions, game fails to load
>this is actually legal

>>509219050
you can bypass steam workshop online requirement with this https://mr_goldberg.gitlab.io/goldberg_emulator/

desu i have not seen anything as annoying as these faggots, they act as if begging gobernment for a change will result in anything positive all while ignoring that piracy already exist and is a solution to their headcannon issue

>>509219192
If that's how companies want to market their games, fine.
Just don't do it and refrain to put that information on the cover.

>>509219281
>Spending money on f2p games for microtransactions
No refunds, retard. Play real games.

>>509219164
> buy them from a company that will shut down games to then sell you the re-release
> please dont support non-corpo developers
> please saar disregard the fact that most companies are forcing denuvo and online activations
You dont even know which point you want to make, faggot.

>>509219329
Government should fuck companies. They don't care about consumers. I can't believe I'm saying this as an anarchist. But it's the only way

>>509219216
Also because these people have no ethics they have no problems creating day-one DLC facilitate underage gambling as long as they get personally enriched. I have a feeling the people making games in the 90s would have thrown punches over the type of practices done in games today.

>>509219329
>CP
Do your job, jannies

>>509219449
>As an anarchist
Anarchist my ass! Government isn't your daddy. If you want to kill shitty companies, just stop buying their products.

>>509219229
Yep. Their gay little mmos and ubisoft slop got servers taken down and they are big sad that they can't play their casual low quality garbage anymore.
>>509219216
It's cultural rot. Western developers at the lowest level are incapable of creating good games because they haven't read any amount of good fantasy literature and have never played a good game in their life. They have nothing to inspire them to be creative or competent.

>>509217756
You don't own the food you eat?

>>509219259
>>509219309
> what is denuvo
Yes, steam becoming a monopoly is a problem, however, I used it on my example because, lets be fair, few people use alternatives unless Humble Bundle does something interesting
problem is, corpos invented a worse type of drm cancer and they will try their best to shove down everyone's throat.
Piracy is not on its best moment, so I'd rather exercise consumer rights while I still might have any than have to rely on the mercy of corpos when piracy is dead.
However this convo is going to be over soon because Maldavius Fagtree has sent the CP spammer to destroy the thread.

>>509219281
quick fix: don't buy games with microtransactions, pirate them to punish the companies
the problem will fix itself

>wahhh steam
pirating is so easy but I buy from steam anyway.

>>509219628
I said "restaurant", not "food". Learn to read, nigger.

>>509217980
You're just mad that you can't crack his DRM. It's funny because he actually doesn't have any DRM software, he just uses the Steam Achievement system to record progress so if you don't have a valid Steam key you don't save your game.

Will this effect games retroactively? I understand it would be impossible for certain titles, as the studios are completely dissolved, but what of things like Babylon's Fall? Or is it just flatly going forward?

>>509219381
I do play real games, it doesn't change the fact that companies doing these practices impact everyone. But apparently you're one of those retards: "who cares if mainstream vegetables are full of pesticides and synthetic chemicals, just only eat 100% verified local produce". Jesus Christ anon, are you always this contrarian and retarded?

>>509215659 (OP)

>yurop
>communism
a bit late to the party there, OP. Those bean toast eating faggots are so red they make china look like san francisco by comparison.

>>509219639
Not sure what denuvo has to do with this, it isn't related to online games going offline, it's drm protection against piracy of offline singleplayer games

>>509219687
But you're not buying the Company that Makes the game, you're just buying their Product.

>>509219639
>>what is denuvo
Something that had its way paved by the slippery slope of steam setting the precedent of making mass adoption and end-level customer popularity of DRM successful.

>>509219747
Bery few laws work retroactively. Most likely it would be only going forward.

>>509219687
What a fucking retarded analogy.

Games were an escape from all this bullshit...Government control,woke bullshit,and political agendas should not be in any game at all...Newer games seen to be lacking in a lot of things,especially being fun to play.It's all about the newest Unreal 5 graphics and not much substance...It's all just for profit now like video cards...

>>509219784
Its related to ownership, anon. At the core of this is the intention to keep owning and using what you paid for.
Not to mention that if servers go down you lose the game, be that online or offline.

>>509219896
>woke bullshit
make your own games or shut up
>supposed to be an escape
it was always going to be this way once the hobby became popular. money corrupts everything.

>>509217756
There is no intrinsic misunderstanding of how a restaurant operates and what you get when you buy a meal. For example, if I buy a meal at a restaurant, someone doesn't come 10 minutes after I get my plate and take away my plate before I'm done eating. Game Developers absolutely want you to believe that you will have access to that game and anything you bought inside it for as long as you want. The entire practice operates on fraud and withholding information from users.

>>509219989
Denuvo has a yearly licensing fee, if a company goes under it's not going to keep paying a license, and if the company goes under it's not going to affect your ownership of an offline game either. Denuvo is used for offline games. again not sure what it has to do with anything

>>509219896
Even re-releases of old, niche Japanese games aren't safe from this shit even in fucking Japan. And yet Japanese companies have the nerve to complain about piracy. That's why I rarely play modern games. And of course I don't touch any modern "remakes", "remasters" etc (with few rare exceptions).

And also this cringe reddit movement has an almost identical overlap with that net neutrality soi shit from last decade.

>>509217649
This dude 100% gets it. Thise who disagree were mentioned in his post.

>if you find yourself agreeing with a popular opinion, it's time to stop and reflect as to why.
The only reflecting most of you do is in a mirror.

>>509215659 (OP)
>man with jew cock up his arse
I genuinely wonder if there is actual shills being paid by kikes.

>>509219593
To many retards, and no fuck that companies need to be kept in check

>>509220552
if you were truly an anarchist you would be much more concerned about keeping governments in check

>>509219654
Yes and no, they'll take down your server's. So this actually isn't bad

>>509218311

You should never be grateful for what has been given to you. That logic is a slippery slope that leads to trash ideals like socialism. You should always push for more and demand things.

>>509215659 (OP)
>>509215659 (OP)
>voting for communism and government overreach

You do not understand what stop killing games is about.

Read, listen and think better. There is a lot of material on the topic that is easy to read and hear.

>>509215659 (OP)
eat shit and get fucked corpo dev fag

>>509215659 (OP)
Nah. But you are.