Thread 509216664

>>509216664 (OP)
who?

>>509216664 (OP)
Ukr-what?

just send more money goys

>>509216664 (OP)
>western half measures
Those faggots should be grateful for anything. Supplying them at all prolongs it even if you want their success.

>>509216664 (OP)
two more decisive actions until Muscovy capitulates the only thing stopping them is Western cowardice

>>509216664 (OP)
What war is this then, I lost interest and forgot.

>>509216664 (OP)
>just need everyone to fight Ukraine's war for them
So it's not really Ukraine's war but World War 3.

We all know that, but can russia? They've gained fuck-all in 2 years. Can't even kick the hohols out of Kursk.

win....a participation medal amirite

>>509216664 (OP)
ukranda can into space?

>>509216664 (OP)
Just $2 more billions

Considering the US/NATO propaganda has been that Ukraine has already won and anyone who says otherwise is labeled a Russian using a VPN it is strange they are taking a step back to say Ukraine can win instead of just saying Ukraine has already won

Ukranny sure is winning

>>509217372
Can't you brown retards use a different VPN to better mask the fact you can't speak English?

>>509216664 (OP)
Poor Ukraine, always perpetually a billion dollars away from total victory.

>>509217495
that's American English plus disorganized thinking from substance abuse legal or illegal

2 more weeks till Ukraine wins

this war was over in february. 2022. a war so hopeless literal trannies are the only people delusional enough to believe that ukraine has a chance at anything except for mass slaughter, rape, and displacement.

>>509216664 (OP)
I mean this in all seriousness, how much longer can this war last???

>>509217760
2 weeks till Russia wins, kek

>>509217760
>>509217906
yeah this forever war is not gay and retarded at all

>>509216664 (OP)
Old news. Literally no one give a shit. Israel/Iran is the hot shit now. No one cares about slavs killing each other for shitty pieces of iceland

>>509216664 (OP)
BURISMA

It's just a waiting game now til everyone gets fed up and sets up a really long version of the Korean DMZ.

zigger LIES
the ukraine has already WON

>>509217990
woah, scoool
can i haz pre feb 24th 2022 map?
just curious

>>509216664 (OP)
>half measure

KEK the joke here is they were already going full measure, the military industrial complex in NATO are profit-driven and not mission-driven; once they've been paid they don't give a shit if the delivery is on date.

Hohols died for nothing lmao

>>509216664 (OP)
>hundreds of billions spent
>half measures
i could singlehandedly win if that money was granted to me

>>509218308
>i could singlehandedly win if that money was granted to me

>>509216664 (OP)
Ukraine will win.

>>509216664 (OP)
I have the cheat sheet for reading this. Ukraine supporters are likely Chinese controlled while Israel supporters are Israel controlled.

This is truly a Rosetta stone moment for politics. So we can put foriegn affairs down for china. I don't want to stop reading today because June 2025 was the month everything became painfully obvious.

Now, everyone just reveals their allegiances and all we have to do is look at everyone's position on this.

sorry ziggers but based biden already collapsed the ruZZian economy

>>509218271
>died for nothing

That's not entirely true. This conflict has been a massive success for the global depop agenda folks who have marched these poor bastards straight into the meatgrinder. They've essentially been liquidated for being undiserables.

>>509216664 (OP)
There is no appetite for Ukraine winning the war because it serves NATO's interests to have it soak up Russia's equipment and economic output

>>509218953
Isn't it the 4th largest economy by GDP-PPP?

Yet another seethe thread made by "ethnic Russians"
Really, OP?
>XKKK20

>>509219524
Only if you consider Jewish measurements.
Most of their income was selling oil to Europe, the true economy of Russia.
Noone moves to Russia to get better QOL or money.
There's a reason people leave, anon.

>>509219524
poor people points is cope

>>509218247
That's a coperoni, taking 1/12th of a country and being unable to take more isn't a W

>>509219726
They're seething because Russia just announced huge military budget cuts, they can't afford this

>>509217357
>only 2
the jew bank is giving them like 50

>>509216664 (OP)
>Western half measures
The west has done literally everything short of outright declaring war on Russia. Ukraine has been given state of the art tech, billions in cash, ammo, weapons, vehicles, intel, volunteers, etc... The only thing we haven't done is bombed Russia ourselves.

Russia has the cannon fodder that Ukraine never had. Ukraine is fucked and slowly being bled to death.

>>509220213
It doesn't matter how much they are given as manpower is still the biggest issue for them.

>>509217247
They pushed the cuckrainians out of Kursk so hard that the frontline is now inside Ukraine, and they had to send in new battlements to defend their nearest city.

>western governments
>decisive measures

best we can do is think about it in various committees for a few (two?) weeks before finally torpedoing it or settling on another watered down supply of helmets and 3 tanks

>>509220551
so 2 weeks away from the west finally taking the gloves off and sending wunderwaffe that will defeat the Russians?

>>509220213
>EU pilots shooting EU missiles from EU jets while flying over Ukraine
>Le spiderweb drone trucks have a good probability to have crossed the Russian border from a country other than Ukraine
idk anon

>>509216664 (OP)
Seeing, then believing.

>>509220213
>Ukraine has been given state of the art tech
They really haven't, other than the patriot batteries pretty much everything they've been given in any quantity is 80s old stock

>>509220891
der wunderwaffe will be sent to Ukraine in 2 weeks?

>>509220533
>memeflag telling blatant, easily verifiable lies
Show flag or remain disregarded.

>>509216664 (OP)
Ukraine already won like seventeen times

>>509220994
No. Didn't even imply it. Learn some English you dumb nigger.

>>509221109
what happens when you run out of mongoloids from the far east to send to the front?

>>509221087
This is what happens when you only read ukrainian propaganda. I bet you think ukraine still has Bakhmut and Avdeevka.
White is the Russian border, and the good boys already went way past it after liberating Kursk.

After losing Kursk the cope was that "but Russia had to split its forces, so it was still a win!". Now ukraine had to send 3 more fresh groups there just to defend Sumy, completely and utterly backfiring on them.

>>509220891
You faggots are pathetic

>>509220141
Nice propaganda faggot

>>509216978
lol

>>509221290
I think Ukraine will run out of grandfathers first

>>509221404
>ATACMS
>Storm shadow
What are some other notable wunderwaffe?
Most of the other big iron stuff is all old shit thats been wasting away in storage lots

>>509216664 (OP)
What the fuck is a ucrane?

>>509221290
We already had

>>509221565
Palantir involvenent, drone warfare and experimental AI mostly

>>509221166
wtf so when will Ukraine receive the true wunderwaffe? 2+2weeks?

>>509216664 (OP)
>new judea
>win
lul

>>509216664 (OP)
as any long time athlete knows
>"we can still win"
ain't good

>>509220891
Shartriot burnt nice and bright

>>509221404
Unfortunately for you, it's true. Look at this shit lmao.

>>509220213
Holding it from behind by the arms and letting Russia beat the shit out of it with a crowbar was good. Not letting it strike deep enough where their supply depots could be hit was definitely a full measure move.

Can they even hit moscow with the atacams yet?

>>509216664 (OP)
Just needs to find more people willing to die, how hard can that be.
Raid the crack dens and mental asylums, send them all to the front.

All the need to survive is until russia collapses. Which is getting closer every day. Though no one can say if it will take another two weeks or two years.

>>509221565
Too long of a list for one post you disgusting tranny faggot shill

>https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3597492-heres-every-weapon-us-has-supplied-to-ukraine-with-13-billion/

>>509216664 (OP)
I skimmed the article so you don't have to. Here's the QRD:
If the West seizes Russia's $300 billion in foreign assets thus assuring BRICS never buys government debt from heavily indebted Western nations again...
If the West transfers all its military technology to Kyiv...
If the West can convince Hungary to go cold this winter to prosecute a war they have no interest in...
If the West "leverages trade and market access" to China aka put them under sanctions too which would devastate Western economies and almost certainly lead to WWIII...

...then Ukraine can "continue to chart a course toward NATO and EU membership" which this faggot "minimally defines" as victory!
For added fun this faggot cowrote an article with Sleepy Joe Biden back in 2018 "How to Stand Up to the Kremlin" and is one of the primary architects of this shit show.
Fucking war hawk needs to be shipped to the front lines yesterday.

>>509216978
This. I guess weird, huge events like the C19 virus scam or the event in the Ukraine have limited time. When C19 was over, the Ukraine event was started.

>>509222217
>I skimmed the article
Lol no you didn't. You're reposting kremlin cope. That is the absolutely most pitiful, desperate cope I have seen from a russian all day.

You know that russia is weak and collapsing and your dirt poor shithole has no future.

>>509217247

It's always easy to say in hindsight when exactly the war was lost like for napoleon, the south, Hitler, etc. I am curious what are current assessments of the state of Ukraine war beyond what's publicly known. Putin having to publicly concede to his countrymen about reducing military spending in 2026 seems big. Ukraine + nato are clearly showing better use of their technical advantages in information and connectivity.

>>509222363
>existed only in your head
You pidors seriously believed it, huh?

>>509221978
You convienietly left high tech shit off your list you fucking troon

Phoenix Ghost Tactical Unmanned Aerial Systems
Switchblade Tactical Unmanned Aerial Systems
Harpoon coastal defense systems
VAMPIRE Counter-unmanned aerial systems
High Speed, Anti- Radiation Missiles
Laser-guided rocket systems
Tactical secure communications systems
Night vision devices, thermal imagery systems, optics, and laser rangefinders
Commercial satellite imagery services
Explosive ordnance disposal protective gear

>>509222150
1/3 of Ukrainian army is deserters. Based pic

>>509222471
>1/3 of Ukrainian army is deserters.
Yet pidors keep killing themselves en masse. I wonder why.

>>509216664 (OP)
I hear Putin is cutting military funding.

>>509216664 (OP)
I remember seeing articles like this about how Bernie can still win. And just like Bernie, they actually can't but do still want your money.

>>509222587
Did a canadian faggot tell you that?

>>509222456
Bro those are mostly cheap drones and Harpoons and HARMs are both 80s tech

>>509222555
Cool. May I see Ukrainian losses?

>>509222687
You can see another pidor suicide from too much winning.

>>509216664 (OP)
Why do we have to do anything for fucking Ukraine let them fight their own gay war, they do nothing for us

>>509222687
posting losses is punishable by jail time and/or rape

>>509222451
knew it was you, brave internet warrior
100pbtid, chop chop

>>509222664
Fuck off tranny faggot shill, that was just the FIRST aid package. Plus they were given cash to purchase whatever the fuck they wanted.

What else could they have been given so that they would have won? You really are a disgusting lying piece of shit

>>509217495
Thank you for your service, internet soldier

>>509222910
Going to call your discord pidorannies to make it happen?
chop chop

>>509217247
Russia just finished the liberation of Luhansk Oblast. Ukraine control live 1% of Kursk Oblast

According to Brian Berletić the USA is waging a proxy war in the Ukraine against Russia and it cannot win this war. The USA he says wants to freeze the conflict, rebuilt the Ukrainian army and then restart the conflict. Sounds plausible to me. (Though I don't agree with Brian Berletić in that Israel is a proxy of the USA. IMHO Israel and the USA are the same organisation.) But after the C19 virus scam IMHO we have to ask ourselves, how real horizontal conflicts between C19 governments are (Ukraine vs. Russia, Israel/USA vs Iran).

>>509222924
Nice meltdown, I didn't say anything about them winning though. I said the majority of the weapons they've been given is 80s old stock, and that's still true.

>>509222986
Brown detected

>>509222430
>no you didn't do the half assed thing you admitted was half assed
Ok, Katerina. Tell me which of my assessments was wrong. Also post tits you fucking whore.

>>509216664 (OP)
Sure. I suppose that technically there is SOME statistical probability that Putin just decides to give up, go home, give all of his captured land back to Ukraine, and maybe even gives some or all of Russia to Ukraine as well just to say he's sorry. It's not likely, but I guess the odds of it happening aren't exactly 0%

>>509223006
Chop chop is what happens when a ukranny tranny comes to KPR (ukrainephobic regime)

>>509223115
>The USA he says wants to freeze the conflict, rebuilt the Ukrainian army and then restart the conflict. Sounds plausible to me.
why would russia fall for this trick again?

>>509223225
>you're not white unless you support globalhomo

>>509223225
>if u dont support my war ur brown
lmao get fucked you traitorous glownigger cunt

>>509216664 (OP)
Fairy tales aren't real.

so shill aside, why we shouldn't let putin nuclear bombing kiev and the other big cities? the fallout it's a meme and I don't think there is much to lose on the monument side

>>509223314
>Chop ch-AAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
Another pidor suicide from too much winning for you.

>>509216664 (OP)

Unbelievable levels of cope. Why is it that supposedly serious western publications and analysts so beclown themselves with this nonsense.

Ukraine's population has been in decline since 1991, and sharply in decline since hte start of the war when their own people fled the country they were so sure it would be lost.

All the west has done is prolong the agony.

If someone invades your country. If they take territory. If after 3 years you cannot regain even 1 inch. Even after mobilizing your whol epopulation. And after getting help from the USA and Europe. If after all that you have not "won" then for sure you have lost.

>>509222664
Moving the goalposts I see

>>509223148
Then why did you leave the newer high tech arms off your meme? Stupid faggot

>VAMPIRE Counter-unmanned aerial systems
These are brand new state of the art you stupid troon

>>509223512
Not at all, here's what I said quite literally

>>509220891
>other than the patriot batteries pretty much everything they've been given in any quantity is 80s old stock

There's some key points here, "Majority" is a big one.

>>509223481
Just 764 more gore posts and you'll earn Ukraine a brand new pickup truck!

>>509223585
Because it's not the majority of what they received, and while it's not 80s tech, drones aren't cutting edge warfare. It's a missile with a propeller and a GPS on it.

>>509223585
By the way they only received 14 VAMPIRES

>>509223471
why would he nuclear bomb kiev though? it seems like he wants it mostly in tact, or hes at least fond enough of the shared history to spare it. if anglos were prosecuting this war things might be different.

>>509223481
>hruk hruk-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!
Night shitposting in the Ukraine (temporarily occupied by the Zelensky regime) be like

>>509223471
Why shouldn't we let Starmer nuke moscow? That would end the war.

>>509218167
western media is such a joke it's unreal

ukraine is facing a lost century, the question is now if it survives as a nation at all

2 more weeks and garbage puccia loses 14.000 more vatniks

>>509223688
Ok faggot
We gave them the same shit NATO uses. Yout arguement is nothing but nafo discord troon talking points.

Now tell us how Russia used thier "stockpiles" of soviet munitions

>>509224043
Because starmer is an old coked up passionfruit and praising him is not the highest intellectual mark one should strive for

>>509223481
I see by your flag that they still haven't drafted the jewsh48g2

>>509223956
>only 3 billon dollars with of Vampires
>only
That was just the first aid package faggot
You just spew lies

>>509224318
Stop coping so damn hard, pidor. It's deeply pathetic.

>>509224325
Well it has to be either him or Macron. Trump is a lackey of Monke so he will never do it. And Netanyahoo doesn't want to bomb his fellow kikes.

>>509217247
Not only did russia kick ukraine out of kursk they are now taking over the sumy region.
No wonder you retards think ukraine is winning when you cant even be bothered to keep up with current events

>>509224318
We just went through the numbers together and we agree, they received only small numbers of modern equipment and most of the stuff they received from the US is retired from US service or old models. I don't know what you're still on about now.

>>509224456
The vampire is actually quite cheap, compared to most US-built equipment. It's a rocket launcher on a truck. They're still 1m each because lol america but nowhere near 3B.

>>509224591
Offer him a Ukrainian twink and he might consider your braggadocio for realsies

>>509224043
because I don't wanna see moscow get nucked, seems a good place to visit, meanwhile ginevra it's the most expensive piece of shit city full of pajeet shithole I've ever been

>>509224695
>they received only small numbers of modern equipment
why not send new in great numbers?
>it’s enough
not according to hohols

>>509217227
Russia (obviously supplied by China, Iran Norks and rim countries) is the only one that has invites abundant troops from a foreign nation to the fight. NATO is just providing Some hardware and intel. You (retard) don’t want to see what ww3 looks like, and neither does any Russian

>>509224695
>those 20,000 laser guided missies are cheap
>trust me I'm a faggot

>>509223615
No, you literally moved the goalposts by implying that "cheap drones" (your words) don't count. They aren't cheap, nor are they "80's tech," but that's besides the point.
You seem pretty fixated on "80's tech," you repeat it like a mantra, but it's really not the own you seem to think it is. The Abrams is "80's tech" but it's still the US' main MBT. Do you know why? It's because they don't have anything newer. In the case of MBTs, there are no warehouses full of "90's tech," or "00's tech" just waiting in the wings to replace destroyed "80's tech." Same with the Bradleys. The US army never replaced it, "80's tech" is what they'd have to fight their wars with because they don't have anything newer.
And all of that is setting aside the point that "newer" doesn't mean "better." I'll remind you we're still killing each other with gunpowder, which is "9th century tech."

>>509224724
Who? Trump or Netanyahoo?

>>509225073
>You seem pretty fixated on "80's tech," you repeat it like a mantra
guess his RSS feed

>>509224996
holy fucking shit a toothbrush just flew over my house!

>>509225073
I didn't say the drone were 80s tech, learn to read my dude. The Abrams is a great example because modern militaries often use the same chassis for decades now but completely replace nearly every part that makes it function, modernizing it. The M1A1 ukraine received is far behind the modern M1A2 SEPv3.

If you want this in Russian terms, the T72A is far behind the T90, but they're the same chassis. Russians given their upgraded equipment new numbers though.

For a western example, the F-16A is completely out of date but the F-16V is a modern jet. For reference Ukraine received the F-16A/B.

>>509225044
Not missiles, rockets. APKWS rockets are relatively cheap compared to other guided munitions yeah. They didn't received 20,000 rockets for the VAMPIREs either. It's not like 14 vehicles could fire 20,000 rockets. Look at that fuckin' thing, it loads 4 at a time.

>>509225126
>Kinky Keir? Fucking Ukrainian teens? Are you kidding me?!!
Wooaaaah! Crikey! It can’t be mate

>>509225505
I’ll tell you what fra, we steal toasters from Ukraine and put toaster microchips into TNT boxes. Patriots can’t compete ever

>>509225945
this nouvelle cuisine shit must be stopped

>>509225734
It wouldn’t matter whether Ukraine received the. F-16A or V or any other meme upgrade. They’d still have lost pilots and aircraft because those tards are using their F16s as drone interceptors and accidentally downing their own aircraft by flying into the debris field.

Ukrainians aren’t Western. You can give them as much money and technology as you want and they’ll still lose this war because they - like their Russian enemies - are slavic retards that only know human wave tactics and inelastic defence.

>>509222868
I hope shit like this never reach any ukie in the front. This shit is more demoralizing than anything the enemie can throw at you. Why can't nafotrannies understand this?

At some point there will be a crisis and NATO will need to decide if they want to send troops in order to save Ukraine

>>509226456
I fully support sending polaks, bong, krauts, and bongs to this. It wont make a single difference.

>>509226267
That's an entirely different discussion. Honestly they don't have the infrastructure required to host a modern airforce, and especially not in the numbers they would need to compete with the Russian airforce. F-16Vs could probably compete but they'd need like 300 of them and that's just not going to happen.

>>509220891
>pretty much everything they've been given in any quantity is 80s old stock
Leafbro... that's the state of the art stuff.

>>509226601
Exactly. So what’s the point of talking about “half measures”? You’re talking about sending Ukraine hundreds of jets in an effort to immediately make it one of the top 10 strongest airforces by volume alone on Earth.

If THATS what it takes for Ukraine to eek out a victory here then holy shit. But let’s be real here. Even if you gave them it, they’d still be crashing them like retards the same way they still employ Soviet tactics and meat waves of conscripts for political victories.
For some reason people think Ukraine is a country in the midatlantic full of westerners rather than a literal slavic borderland of Russia.

>>509225818
>14 systems can not fire 5,000 times in 3.5 years (4 per)
Do you even believe yourself faggot?

>The VAMPIRE is primarily uses the Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System II (APKWS) rockets. The APKWS is a 70mm laser-guided rocket that cost US$27,500 per unit.

Thats 500 million just in rockets tranny faggot shill

>>509224695
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_aid_to_Ukraine_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

Don't be scared anon

>>509216664 (OP)
>two more decades

"The West" will prolong the war between Ukraine and Russia for as long as possible. Its a strategy of depleting the Russian economy and its manpower. Every single Ukrainian can die and the West can just repopulate it with Jews and blacks, south Americans and middle easterners. It can become a new American colony.

>>509216664 (OP)
That shit is still going on?

>>509227172
I posted the list right here >>509221978 , please read the list. I posted it because it agrees with me.

>>509227078
Bro they didn't receive 20,000 rockets. And yes 27k per rocket is cheap for US systems. The barrels on those fuckers are absolutely not rated to shoot 5000 rockets each but even so, they're front line systems they're going to get destroyed.

The total cost of the 14 systems AND the munitions received was 40m.

>>509216664 (OP)
Darwin award?

>>509224695
der wunderwaffe vill turn back ze tide of ze var

>>509227377
>Its a strategy of depleting the Russian economy and its manpower

>>509227377
>Its a strategy of depleting the Russian economy and its manpower.
>>509227875

>>509225734
>I didn't say the drone were 80s tech
I didn't say you did, I said you said they were "cheap" and therefore didn't count because you know it's not "80's tech." Learn to read my dude.
But notice how you've moved the goalposts again? Suddenly "80's tech" isn't "80's tech" if we apply upgrades to the same hull or airframe. If we keep at it long enough we might move the goalposts all the way to the point where we talk about the difference between the production of new hulls/frames vs extending lifespans of existing hulls/frames and why that's done

>>509227727
And you just keep lying
>500 million is cheap

So you dont believe they were fired 30 times a week each?
Being the main anti drone/missile weapon and considering Russia has been hammering them for 3.5 years?

What a disgusting delusional piece of shit you are.

>>509227828
>Darwin award?
ukraine is the grand champion, and final winner of the DARWIN AWARD™

>>509227828
Mass immigration will fix that. Those dead Ukrainian men can rest easy knowing that though ethnic Ukrainians might slip into minority status, GDP go up.

>>509227727
You just keep lying
I posted the link
You replied to it
Now you are straight up lying
You will never be a woman, faggot

>VAMPIRE Counter-unmanned aerial systems
The U.S. first committed to providing the VAMPIRE system in its $2.98 billion weapons package announced Aug. 24. Colin Kahl, the Pentagon’s top policy official

>>509227727
>Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System II
>aka surplus unguided 70mm rockets with some cheap laser guidance kit nigger-rigged to them
>still more expensive than the drones it's meant to destroy
holy shit the absolute state of western mic

>>509216664 (OP)
cool

>>509216664 (OP)
>>509216978
Who?

>>509227920
US and EU massively outnumber and have a much stronger military than Russia. If it was a direct fight it would of course lead to nuclear war. So instead they arm a proxy. Russia is so strong, why the stalemate? To bleed Russia. The West does not care about Ukrainian casualties.

>>509227928
I agreed the drones weren't 80s tech like 15 posts ago. I have not moved the goalposts though let's go look at the post that started this that you're mad about.

>other than the patriot batteries pretty much everything they've been given in any quantity is 80s old stock

"Pretty much", that means the majority. I acknowledge that some of what they received is modern. The minority of the systems. The systems you mentioned are modern but largely not high tech and they didn't receive that many of them. That's still perfectly inline with what I said.

kek time for another counteroffensyiv

>>509227948
>>509228089
>in its $2.98 billion weapons package
within the package dumbass, only 40m was the vampire and it's rockets. It's not even remotely the main anti-drone missile system either you dork, where did you get that dumb idea?

>>509228204
So why doesn't the mighty NATO and EU send enough wunderwaffe to make Ukraine win? Even better than depleting Russia, hummiliating and defeating Russia would be much better. Maybe even make Ukraine take Rostov and other border regions. What better way to deplete Russia than this?

>>509228391
Der wunderwaffe? Der wunderwaffe vill arrive at ze nick of ze tzime

>>509228213
Its all modern gear currently used by NATO forces today, tranny faggot shill.

You lie with zero shame. Thats how we spot the troons here

>>509228500
I've never said that, there's no wunderwaffe coming. Ukraine ain't gonna win this. All I said was the majority of the equipment Ukraine has received is old and like 20 people started freaking out at me lmao.

>>509228435
>make Ukraine win
That would end the war or possibly endanger Russia enough to start the nuke war.
Stalemate is ideal.

>>509216664 (OP)
TOTALER
UND
RADIKALER

>>509228539
No it isn't and we already argued about this, you even used the M1A1 as an example, it's been retired for like 20 years now retard.

>>509228563
I too have noticed the gradual disappearance of wunderwaffe.

I think the last one was the F16's (as if a half dozen jets is enough to win a war)

>>509228391
Ok
70 million for the trucks and vampire systems
500 million for the ammo
Still not "cheap" tranny faggot shill

>>509228857
The 40m included the rockets, and I said it was "cheap for US-made systems". That's still true, US shit is retarded expensive.

>>509228622
>Stalemate is ideal
lol not for Russia

>>509228563
majority of equipment available is old. >>509228622
Seems like cope.

>>509220092
>The rate of success does not match my arbitrary wants
lmao i will never not enjoy this cope. Keep up the good work Taras.

>>509229207
The majority of equipment available is old yeah, the new stuff is in service with NATO forces, they aren't giving it away.

>>509228740
>retired

No tranny faggot shill "retiring" thats nafo talking points you are paid to spread.

>https://www.9news.com.au/world/australia-ukraine-tank-donation-of-m1a1-abrams-fleet-to-boost-war-effort-against-russia/3ce52fe4-36b8-4b05-819f-111aecdca3c2

>Australia will gift dozens of retiring tanks to Ukraine in a $245 million package aimed at bolstering the country's defence of the Russian invasion.
>retiring

You disgusting troon. You just keep lying. Those tanks were in service and modern

>>509229427
>they aren't giving it away
why?

>>509229488
That's Australia m8, we were talking about the US. Even so, it's hilarious that you pretty much support my point by posting an article saying they're gifting them to ukraine because the M1A1 is being retired.

>>509218420
>posting this unironically

>>509229629
Because it's for their own militaries m8, why isn't Russia giving away SU-57?

>>509228213
Well now we've just circled back around to the "80's tech" excuse. We have already established that the modernity of the systems does not matter, because in many cases "80's tech" is what NATO would have to use for lack of any alternative; it is volume and the ability to replace them that is important, a quality which the US MIC with its fixation on fleecing the taxpayer by creating small quantities of expensive boutique weaponry designed for limited expeditionary wars does not possess.
When someone says something like "oh who cares if we depleted our stockpiles, it was just 80's tech," that's either cope or extreme ignorance, because again, in the case of many systems, there is nothing newer to replace it with. The fact that it's "80's tech" doesn't matter if once you're out of "80's tech" there's nothing left.

>>509224695
>they received only small numbers of modern equipment and most of the stuff they received from the US is retired from US service or old models.
faggot fucking nigger /k/ poster

i hate you jew faggot niggers so much its unreal

lmfao, just SO SO MUCH surplus gear its crazy
I mean am i right fellow /k/ikes!?

ukraine recieved the totality of europes STATE OF THE ART technology and STILL got its ass prolapsed by Russia
>himars+advanced missiles
>patriot+advanced interceptors
>modern tanks with state of the art equipment
>stormshadow/scalp, other state of the art missiles
>every AD system in production
>every state of the art SPG/artillery+ammo
>most modern IFV's in europe
it goes on and on and on
ukraine got ALL of europes state of the art military shit, all of it
absolutely none of it was "garage sale hand-me-down" shit, it was ALL europe most modern and ONLY equipment

>>509229719
Some of you are very hyper focused on the off-hand 80s tech comment. You're right about some NATO countries (Canada lmao). The US isn't really fielding any 80s shit though, they're very modernized.

>>509229702
>Because it's for their own militaries m8, why isn't Russia giving away SU-57
Russia needs planes to keep Russia safe, duh
i thought defending the ukraine keeps GayTO safe or smth, honest mistake, sumimasen

>>509229719
none of that is true and nato literally demilitarized itself on the european continent to FAIL their regime-change attempt in Russia >>509230050

nato has been functionally eliminated
full stop

>>509230118
this is you^

>>509230050
I've already had this argument like 5 times in this thread dude, we've even gone over the numbers of equipment ukraine has received. 20 himars is nothing compared to 1000 m113s etc

>>509230050
Why is russia still losing? Why haven't you moved back there if it's so powerful and rich?

>>509230249
no you havent /k/ike
you deserve to have your asshole pushed entirely in for your nigger dogshit /k/ talking point about
>"its just our old nato stuff! no one even wants it! it was more expensive to throw it in the trash then send it to ukraine!"

I hate you
I literally hate you

>>509230050
>modern tanks with state of the art equipment
The list you posted say 31 M1A1s and 45 T-72B's bro lol

>>509230405
chill bro lol

>>509230316
LMAO Russia won and fucking choked out nato with a fucking piano wire, as it convulsed and shit itself

what planet do you live on?

>>509230485
>chill bro lol
lmao, you, IRL

>>509230582
Hey man I'll discuss the issues with you but if you just want to threaten gay rape towards me, I'll just laugh because you're fuckin' gay

>>509230514
Kyiv surrendered to Monke, sanctions are lifted, russia is the world's strongest army and economy? I must have missed the news.

>>509216664 (OP)
Non-Russian experts say the Russians can keep up at their current increased pace for another 2 years before running into any issues with shortages of manpower, equipment, and munitions. This isn't the same for Ukraine, who's completely dependent on NATO/EU to keep the ship afloat.

>>509217084
very true! give zelinskeiy the nukes now!

4 YEARS IN
AND RUSSIA HAS CROSSED INTO WWI LEVELS OF LOSSES

YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND ANON
IT IS RUSSIA
THEY ARE KINDA OF SUBHUMANS 50%

SHOIGU
IS AN ASIAN MUTTMAN
AND HE WAS IN CHARGE OF THE MILITARY

SENILE
OLD
MEN

>>509230886
>>509230886
>>509230886
NOW THAT ALL THE RUSSIAN MEN ARE DEAD
RUSSIA WILL BE FLOODED WITH MIGRANTS

THE RICH PEOPLE DON'T EVEN SEE YOU AS HUMAN, THEY DON'T CARE. YOU ARE GOLEM IN THEIR EYES.

REMEMBER
SCHIZO ANON
WARNED YOU ALL ;33333

RUSSIA HAS NOT COMPLETED
A SINGLE MILITARY STATED OBJECTIVE

NOW ABOUT TO ENTER A RECESSION

Here comes the caps lock faggot
Like clockwork

IMAGINE
LOSING 30-40% OF YOUR AIRFORCE IN A SINGLE ATTACK... NOT LOOKING GOOD.

SYRIA ALSO COLLAPSED BECAUSE 90% OF RUSSIA'S MILITARY WAS IN UKRAINI

>>509231293
yes but will you draw more spooky swastikas with crayons like reel natsock do?

>>509231273
>>509231273
>>509231273
SMARTER
THAN
YOUR WHORE MOTHER, WEIMERIMUTT

SORRY THE POLICE RETREATED FROM SEATTLE WASHINGTON
SORRY L.A. BURNED DOWN 30-40+ MILLION IN DAMAGES ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR.

SENDING THE MARINES INTO L.A. WON'T DO ANYTHING. WE DEPLOYED THE MARINES TO HAITI 4 TIMES, DIDN'T FIX NIGGERS.

NATSOC: 1
UKRAINE: 1
RUSSIA: -6,000,000

>>509230686
>>509230775
>I must have missed the news.

i can help

>>509231379
>>509231379
>>509231379
I HAVE HAD A FEW NEW DRAWINGS
PEOPLE AT THE BARS I GO TO ALWAYS SEEM TO LIKE THEM

I'VE GOTTEN REQUESTS

HOW ABOUT YOU ANON
HOW ARE YOUR PEOPLE DOING
DO YOU GO OUT OR STAY INSIDE ALL DAY. I DO 5-10 MILES A DAY.

I WONDER WHY
RUSSIANS FLED
AFTER 1991 TO WESTERN COUNTRIES... A MYSTERY.

>>509222421
It's because people stop caring after a while. It's like a bad smell, you'll be revolted at first, but eventually you get used to it and forget it's even there. So they're basically just wasting money keeping such things going after a certain point.

ARE YOU JEALOUS SHILL ANON
THAT IAM CURRENTLY WINNING
AND SHILLS AREN'T ;DDDDD

I WARNED YOU ABOUT YOUR SENILE GOVERNMENT LIKE MY OWN GOVERNMENT

YOU DIDN'T LISTEN
NOW YOUR PEOPLE ARE IN VIETNAM 2.0... ON THE BORDER OF A NUCLEAR ARMED NATION... HIGH IQ MOVE.

DURING
A DEMOGRAPHIC COLLAPSE
MIND-YOU.

>>509231507
>>509231507
>>509231507
WAR IS MORE IMPORTANT
PEOPLE CARE WHEN THEY SEE PEOPLE DYING EVERYWHERE ;DD

CHAOS COMES ORDER --- ABOVE SO BELOW

>>509231293
>IMAGINE
>LOSING 30-40% OF YOUR AIRFORCE IN A SINGLE ATTACK...

does Russia know they lost 30-40% of their airforce, or is this one of those "just trust me" moments?

>>509231465
>I'VE GOTTEN REQUESTS
ha ha ha tell me more

>>509231608
>>509231608
>>509231608
WWII WAS WORSE
HITLER AMBUSHED THE USSR AND THEY LOST 90% OF THEIR AIRPOWER. 1,000+ PLANES IN A SINGLE DAY. MOST CAPTURED ARMIES IN HISTORY. EVEN STALIN'S SON WHO DIED LATER.

27,000,000, MANY OF WHOM WERE SUBHUMANS OR PEOPLE LIVING IN SUBHUMAN STARVATION CONDITIONS

RUSHED GERMAN MACHINE GUNS AND ARTILLERY, ANOTHER HIGH IQ MOVE

LOL. LMAO. HISTORY IS iFUNNY.

>>509217247
By the end of the war Odessa will be in Russian hands

>>509231636
>>509231636
>>509231636
INDEED
WHICH IS CUTE
BECAUSE I DON'T USUALLY TALK TO MOST PEOPLE // NORMIES

AT ONE BAR THEY HAVE ALL MY NAPKIN SKETCHES IN THE BACK ;DDD

YOU'RE JUST MAD
THAT IAM WINNING
DON'T WORRY AMERICA HAS A MUTT ARMY JUST LIKE YOU. WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO LOSE ANY LAND WAR IN THE NEXT 5-10+ YEARS.

>>509231763
>>509231763
>>509231763
NOT
THE HECKIN
ODESSA

ZEE
NEXT
VAVE

>>509231763
50,000 russian troops are about to advance in Sumy
Its over

>>509216664 (OP)
DID THEY SAY "THANK YOU" FINALLY!!!????

ARE YOU JEALOUS SHILL ANON
ALL OF THE NATSOC GROUPS THAT TOOK MY ADVICE SUCH AS PATRIOT FRONT ARE BOOMING POST 2017

I WON YET AGAIN. I HAVE IRONS IN ALL OF THE FIRES. IAM INSIDE OF YOUR WALLS TOO.

THERE'S PEOPLE IN RUSSIA
WHO THINK LIKE ME
MORE-SO EVERYDAY TOO

PLUS NOW THAT YOU DESTROYED YOUR ZOG MILITARY
YOU'RE FORCED TO RELY ON RIGHT WING ELEMENTS & MILITIAS LIKE RUSICH TO A GREATER DEGREE

THANK YOU FOR MILITARIZING UKRAINE & RUSSIA FOR ME + P-O-L-A-N-D, BALTICS, FINNGOLIAH, & MANY OTHER NATIONS.

THANK YOU RUSSIANS
ONLY
THE HIGHEST OF IQs THERE.

>>509231952
>>509231952
>>509231952
OHH
NOES
A N Y WA Y S

RUSSIA HAS PRETTY SHIT ALLIES AS WELL, SO THAT IS NOT HELPING HER

NORKS, CHINKCELS, & RAJEETS... + AFRICAN TROOPS.

MOST HILARIOUS TIMELINE SINCE WWI ANOS.

LOOK HOW FUCKING QUIET THE SHILLS ARE

POOR THINGS
YOU GOT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE KILLED AND IT BACKFIRED. TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE. THANK YOU ANONS COULDN'T HAVE DONE THIS WITHOUT YOU.

DO NOT WORRY
IAM FAR WORSE THAN LENIN, TROTSKY, STLAIN, OR HITLER.

ARE YOU WINNING YET MEIN ANONS. THIS THE WINNING???

STALIN***
BEGONE JANNIES WHO TRANNIE
HONEST MIS-SPELLING, SILLY JANNIES.

>>509224695
>they received only small numbers of modern equipment

Looks like significant numbers

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_aid_to_Ukraine_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

>>509230050
Based. I love the spite of this poster, poor muh dindu ukrainiggers and nafoniggers belittling the sheer volume of supplies should hang in the same forest

>>509217990
>>509217906

>What is a war of attrition?
>What do you mean I don't understand how defensive measures revolution in WWI is connected to the reconnaissance revolution caused by drones and satellites in the Ukrainian war?
>What do you mean it has been 3 years and I haven't learned a fucking thing?

>>509216664 (OP)
Yep its over
Ukraine has lost
This is the mother of cope articles

>>509232316
>>509232316
>>509232316

>>509232393
>>509232393
>>509232393
THE MEDIA LIED

NO WAY ANON
MEANWHILE... JEW YORK...

LOOK
ANONS
THE ZOGBOTS ARE WINNING... Z FOR ZION.

>>509232494
>nafonigger came here to slide the thread
Ukraine lost, nafo lost, (you) personally lost as well. Shrimple as

Ukraine has been doomed since Russia went to attrition and anyone who knows absolutely anything about military history knew this.

>>509231748
>>509231874
>>509232025
>>509232610
EVERYONE DIED IN ukraine THEY GOT THEIR WHOLE COUNTRY KILLED FOR JACK SHIT LESS THAN NOTHING

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION ON THIS MATTER

>>509231379
Hahahaha shiiiit yeah I remember that

>>509233079
>ukraine has been doomed since
hour 48

keev was captured in 48hrs and the entire war ended there
>then nato and boris showed up
and you get the insanity that ensued


lmao, but ukraine without nato interference fell in 48hrs
a 36+ nation coalition had to torch their collective economies to keep the gamble afloat (they lost anyway)

>>509232610
>the crayon swastikas man has vanished as thread reached 250 posts
Sussy

I thought Russia was losing bigly and Ukraine was blowing up all their facilities.

>>509217068
>Those faggots should be grateful for anything.
Not really, you are sending them enough weapons to make them suffer but not to make them win. A rational zelensky would just use the weapons 3X as fast so that it looks like they are wining, then when the ammo runs out one day they just collapse and zelensky could say he won every battle but got no support.

>>509224996
Theres always some.dutch nigger yappin. russia accepted 10k norks as a gift from kim, feel free.to send 10k dutch retards to get smoked. Send em today holy shot stop crying like a bitch

>>509233515
>zelensky won every battle
Ok faggot
Ukraine hasnt won a battle outside of the defense of Kiev at the start of the war.
Not one.

>>509230316
Why are you praising Starmer and Macron of all people bruh

>>509233513
instead ukraine is blowing up, and Russia is winning bigly

par for the course

>>509233692
>the defense of keev at the start of the war.
they didnt win that either lmao
it was an orgy of shooting themsleves (durrrrrrr muh Ruzzian collaborator!!!)

keev has been btfo'd from the word "go"

Mhm and is the magical win in the room with us now?

>>509233158
anyone complicit in the perpetuating of the war should have their assets stripped from them.
the top 500,000 around the world should have their youngest child killed as their punishment.
the top 250,000 should have both arms amputated.
the top 100,000 should be publically hanged, then have their bones pulverised and mixed in with sewage.
any jew involved should be exterminated along with its entire extended family

>>509217990

Wars of attrition progress first slowly and then fast.

It's pretty embarrassing to be a Ukrainian at this point, if there are even any left.

>>509222150
>Russians fail to predict how utterly broken hohol pigger mind is
Theres nothing wrong in admiting it

>>509233692
How would you feel if you didnt have breakfast this morning?

>>509222150
Where was he wrong?

>>509233894
>2022

>>509233919
>jew /k/ike wants indsicriminate collective punishment, the soaking wet fever dream of all jews

>>509234263
Hows your anus doing after pride month?

>>509224996
World Proxy War 3 really is ass

>>509227828
>kill off excess men
>dame famine worsens
Ouch.

>>509233342
100%. Retarded to even try to retort the simple facts you've posted.

It's insane to see the nato shills just completely deny any US involvement in the 2014 coup. If the mexican government was toppled, and a russia friendly gov put in place w\ russian govt officials on the ground "supporting" the level of "support" doesn't even matter. It would always be seen as a russian aggression.

Just as the US having victoria nuland, john mccain, and lindsay graham all over there "helping"... it was a state department / cia op the entire time. They did it... it's documented, and rather than own up to it they have chosen to lie, and then double down on nato expansion by bringing sweden and finland in.

they persist w\ this claim that eurpe needs to be ready for a russian invasion... but that would only happen as a result of european aggression. I think we should nationalize all weapons manufacturers. Remove any financial incentives.

We should not be starting wars just to sell our weapons, that's fucked.

>>509234491
>Hows your anus doing after pride month?
you tell us faggot nigger u/k/ike

hows it feel watching some dogshit nigger nation get it shit pushed in up its ass and out its mouth daily?

1991 borders..when?
Putler status?

>>509234861
>lindsay graham all over there "helping"
lindsay helped over 1 million ukrainian men to a mcdonalds shrine on their tombstone

and he thought it was funny

IN ALL CAPS ukraine IS LOSING BADLY

>>509234477
>niggeebot can't read
>doesn't know the meaning of the words it uses
when's your next aids appointment

>>509235593
i agreed with you 100% untill you went full jew into indiscriminate collective punishment (again, the jew ropes cum at this thought)

>>509234861
the whole thing is demented and incredibly obvious, but 99% of people do not have their own memories anymore, if they ever did.
they can't remember an unimportant bit of news like the US gov replacing a European government overnight, or 8 years of artillery bombardment by that US puppet on the people of that country.
the china flu psyop was clear, depressing evidence that they do not have minds

>>509232383
Lmao blaming drones for the standstill and Ukraine. If Russia had a halfway competent army capable of organizing large scale maneuver warfare this war would have been over long ago. Instead it sends mobiks to ride across no man's land on explosive bikes lmao

>>509235993
The bombing of Donbass stopped under Trump. If you look at the UN report all the deaths in his term was from unexploded ordanance and mines leftover from Obama. The bombing started again 10 days after Biden took office.

>>509236215
>The bombing started again 10 days after Biden took office.

>>509234468
That's the point.
They've said that Russia is out of tanks, ammo, fighter jets, Putin having cancer, personell etc.
For YEARS now and this was gonna be the turning point of the war.. It's still ongoing

>>509217247
>Can't even kick the hohols out of Kursk.
So this is what second-hand embarrassment is like

>>509217247
>Kursk.

ukraine has had an entire "vietnam"-scale DLC side-war in kursk where:
>67,000+ ukrainians killed in ~8 months in kursk
>7,000+ pieces of armor
by comparison,
*the US lost roughly ~52,000 killed in Vietnam over ~7 years
ukraine had a 'generation changing' 'vietnam' in kursk,
over tik-tok views at a nuclear power plant that never happened
https://archive.ph/PsfDQ

https://files.catbox.moe/ht1lmt.mp4
>"we didnt want to capture your nuclear plant, but we could have, but we just didnt (we still might)"
>t. zelensky

>>509236288
Why would she want to end the war she started in 2014?

>>509238467
>Why would she want to end the war she started in 2014?
she wouldnt...ever

but the reality is "she lost" and whether she likes it or not....ITS OVER