So called "Holodomor" famine was actually caused by greedy Kulaks destroying their own crops and cattle because they didn't want to give surplus of their produce to the Soviet government to redistribute them.

>>509220604 (OP)
>dude just let me steal your hard earned profits t. stalin
>no
>ok i kill you tomorrow

>>509220604 (OP)
I have no doubt Ukrainian retardation played a role but let's not pretend Stalin didn't abuse the situation or that he cares about civilians.

actually its the hoti in the its absolute atrocious dealing with it. I make this post every day and no one cares that there in it first place

>>509220604 (OP)
Wow I've never heard that before.
I knew Stalin was awesome and something didn't add up.

>>509220870
The famines affected Russia proper and North Kazakhstan more than it ever did Ukraine. And even in Ukraine the brunt of it was borne by eastern predominantly Russian regions. "Le Holodomor" is even more fictional than Holocaust.

I thought stalink was killed by kulak zelenskis?

>>509221112
I always wandered - did jew commissars ever slaughter rabbis?

>>509220604 (OP)
The holodomor was because Stalin deliberately hired a fraud agronomist Trofim Lysenko to ruin soviet agriculture and therefore starve out ukrainian nationalism

>>509220870
Ukrainians are overplaying the "it was a Ukrainian genocide done by evil Ruskies" part but the soviet policy towards Slavic peasants and central asian cattle herders was outright genocidal. But now both Kazakhstan/Kyrgyzstan and Ukraine frame it as "genocide against us by Russians"

>>509220604 (OP)

the british helped the soviets cover up the genocide - and oh look - are they "helping" the ukrainians lose to the russians right now and get exterminated again??? WoW what a coincidence?!>!?!?

>>509220604 (OP)
Commies lie about literally everything and understand nothing but violence.

>>509220604 (OP)
Correct.

>>509220604 (OP)

this is a MI6 thread

>>509221347
Because Russia openly embraces and endorses USSR.
Even Georgia, where Stalin is actually from, we don't glorify his actions and don't place new statues of him.
The core issue is always that Russia refuses to admit that it was wrong at any point in history because if that it is a shizophrenic state that needs to merge all of its mutually exclusive history into one.

>>509220716
> hard earned profit
Not just profit, lol, but everything. Punishment through starvation was the policy.

>>509221112
Difference is modern Russia still worships le based Stalin because he saved you from fictional planned genocide by moustache man but mainly because all decent Russians left or died out

>>509220604 (OP)
>1pbtid
>Memeflag
>First post is from a Finn that has been posting the same photo for a while

>>509221232
I think so. Jew-on-jew violence is quite common.

>>509221721
Bro, you are telling me jew commissars were slaughtering jews, like Christians

>>509220604 (OP)
Like anon turning all women into unfuckable nightmares so blacks couldn't fuck them

>>509220604 (OP)
Yes goyim! The white Christian farmers totally killed themselves. It was not the Jewish Communists!

>>509221517
Yeah that's what I am saying >>509221517

I'd even go further than this and say that Stalin was enabled by the Russians more or less supporting him and the party or alt east accepting his legitimacy, Stalin needed the kind of people like Russians to gain and stay in power, he wouldn't be able to do this in Georgia. I can write pages on how much I hate Russians, for all the objectives reasons. This doesn't change the fact that there was no narrowly "Ukrainian genocide" or that I should support Zelensky or independent Chechnya

>>509220604 (OP)
It's true. I wouldn't call them greedy as much as just losing their incentive to produce and hoping a protest of production would collapse their oppressors. Based, but that part gets left out because from that angle "capitalist greed" can seem like more the cause. And maybe it is, but it downplays the logistical errors and fragility of the Soviet Union.

All systems have their flaws and making such a drastic transition need to account for actions like that.

>>509221596
>modern Russia still worships le based Stalin
Indeed, just like modern Britain worships Thatcher.

https://holodomormuseum.org.ua/en/the-history-of-the-holodomor/

>>509222128
They would celebrate any female leadership

I bet argentinian women like Thatcher after it tried to kill em all

>>509222038
The main loss of food was due to collectivisation disrupting production, not even from crop destruction, even the op premise is wrong, just like it's wrong it say that there were any "greedy kulaks" left by 1931

>>509220604 (OP)
>the goyim just killed themselves
Congratulations, this is the most jewish post of the day.

Jews like to commit genocide by starvation. Doing the same thing in Gaza right now.

>>509221975
If you support jew zelenskiy, why not support jew puppet stalink?

>>509222128
Thatcher was the last politican before the mass migration era, mr meatcube, this said the modern UK is not much different from Russia, all the smart people are moving out.

>>509222359
>all the smart people are moving out
As evidenced by your posts.

>>509222240
Ok back to basics why communal farms worked on north korea and not on ukraine?

Why they worked anywhere but ukraine, chile also had an agrarian reform yet it reduced child mortality instead of causing a famine, we had a shortage of stock caused by retailers but not a famine cause there was nothing wrong with the food production just the food distribution

>>509222504
>communal farms worked on north korea

>>509220604 (OP)
Have they tried purchasing the produce instead of confiscating at gunpoint? Can't call them greedy with a straight face if not.

>>509222253
That’s because the talmud specifically sanctions it.
> Raba said: If one bound his neighbour and he died of starvation, he is not liable to execution.
>sanhedrin 77a
This whole folio lists ways jews are allowed to kill people. Basically you can’t kill people directly, you have to make them die indirectly as a consequence of your actions and then it’s kosher.

>>509220604 (OP)
sounds like something the brits said regarding the irish

>>509222128
No we don't. Get better bait.

>>509220604 (OP)
>millions of people starved their own families to death
This is why it should be legal to exterminate communists.

>>509220604 (OP)
Yeah, nothing to see here goyim
Sure, Stalin put a murderous turbokike with a generational, burning hatred of Ukrainians in charge of Ukraine just when it experienced its second bad harvest in a row and was already hit with impossible procurement demands - but the resulting famine which hit Ukrainians harder than anyone else was totally just kulak greed. Jews don't mass murder people let alone celebrate their genocides. That's blood libel you know

>>509220604 (OP)
And then Soviet Union collapsed, you lost