Thread 509221076

In 1998 the Internet was so good I would wait 5-10 minutes for my PC to reboot and reconnect and reload only for it to crash a few minutes later and I'd wait the 5-10 minutes again. Today I won't wait 5 seconds for anything online, it's trash meant for instant consumption and memory erasure.

>>509221076 (OP)
I once went into an AOL chat room for the handicapped. Used the screen name Hotwheels and told everyone I wanted end my life by wheeling myself off a cliff.

So many reached out to try and stop me but it was Gimp_A_Limp007 that wrote me a long email and actually made me feel like shit.

Hope you're doing well gimpalimp

>>509221076 (OP)
the quality of those websites and their content and the people you talked to were much higher, they were wall to wall high IQ white people and a few east asians, all people with the intelligence to use the technology of the time and to grasp it easily and use it freely, the late 90s and early 00s were more chill too and white kids had a sort of punk goth scene thing going on alongside hip hop, which was still just 1 small genre of music alongside rock and pop and country, as opposed to being like 80% of music shoved down people's throats by mass media, movies were not poz'd either, so everyone would be talking about art instead of social causes, minorities and trannies that have to pollute everything

we were naive, we were circling the toilet, boomers had already ruined everything, but we coasted for a little while and at least we didn't realize it

>>509221076 (OP)
>dial-up service
only valid grievance, zoomoid
anyone not retarded knew how to employ boolean operators to find what they were looking for, or to get close enough to find it on a links page
we had IRC and BBS, widespread personal sites, and unmoderated comment sections were everywhere and highly vulnerable to SQL injection
you will never have these things, and I pity you if you are not brown

>>509233121
Pr0gZ were fun. Glitching chat rooms to make people think they had a virus or punting them kek

A0HELL, byrdtoolz, midi music and dope ASCII art. Trv sovl.

>>509232737
I still remember when I first came across the MST3K webring in 94. Good times. By the end of the day I had a Torgo screen saver and had replaced all my Windows sounds with MST3K wavs. Still have all of it archived on my hard drive, although sadly the screen saver no longer works.

Modern Internet sucks. Get real. Bots, AI accounts and giga companies occupying everyone's time with bs, and useless search engines. Does anyone who has used the internet for more than 10 years disagree?

>>509221076 (OP)

poor little zoomer
he doesn't realize how much he missed out on

>>509232957
I have considered many times doing mobile versions of TW and Barren Realms. Sadly, I don’t see them getting enough players to make it worthwhile.

>>509221076 (OP)
Search engines were much better in the 90's.
They hadn't been poticized/curated yet.

>>509233286
Wasn't there a thing called method toolz that could fuck with chats?

>>509232785

Just joking with him, spiral staircase refers to the nature of schizophrenic tendacies always returning.

>>509221876
2004 was the start of something beautiful. It ended around 2010. Smartphones were what killed it imo. But yes internet access should be delegated to genuine PC use only.

>>509233031
I used to fill out table cells with information manually.

>>509221313
>>509224578
USA was ahead of subhuman Britfaggots.

>>509221076 (OP)
>Gen-Xers like to cope, and brag about how awesome the Internet was back in the day.
gen x were mostly in their late 20's the first time they used the internet. they're mostly nostalgic for a time before the internet, mind blown.

>>509221076 (OP)
Yes and it was great.

>wild west frontier feeling
>required intelligence and interest in computers to even get on
>interactions with others and such in chat rooms was a novel and cordial experience 90% of the time
>a feeling of wonder and excitement at what you might find next
>instead of going to a library you could find obscure information in minutes from your own home

It was pretty based. I met a lot of cool people on the internet in the 90s/early 2000s. The overall attitude of most people was upbeat, hopeful, optimistic. The overall attitude of people (judging by social media posts etc) online today are melancholy, cynical, and negative (non-stop whining, complaining, doom posting etc to make money off clicks).

>>509221076 (OP)
the communities made it so good
4chan went to shit after around 2011

>>509233696
https://aolunderground.com/proggies/
https://github.com/ssstonebraker/aolunderground-proggies

Eyup.

Hey Evan, if you're reading this, idk if I still have that yellow bucket hat. Hope you're doing well.

>>509221925
Kino

>>509232370
Yes and thats all shit you did offline on a windows 95 rig.

You werent selling models online for profit and if you were you had to physically hand off files on a floppy disc like Neo does in 1999s The Matrix

>>509221313
most people still didn't have it yet unless they worked in tech or simply bought their kids the latest tech. I'd still say that around 25% of people did where I live. kids would all go over to the kid's house that had a computer and internet so they could all use it, just like gaming consoles. by around 2000 though, most people had a computer and internet, and by middle school shortly after most teens were using AOL messenger and such.
>>509224578
mos people definitely didn't have it, see above. just because you did doesn't mean everyone did. I was lower-middle-class but had it because my parents always made sure I had a computer from an early age since they didn't know how to use one and wanted me to be able to. internet became free once they started putting AOL trial discs in all the mailboxes. kids would just raid them and use them all because most people threw them out anyways. nothing like grabbing an ice cold pic rel and booting up Encarta Encyclopedia or Motocross Madness. then there was the era where everything was Pamela Anderson if you know what I mean.

>>509232831
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fencing_response

>>509232370
I tried unreal editor too anon. I was shit with it.

>>509221076 (OP)
social media has killed the internet

>>509221076 (OP)
It was a lot better because the collective IQ of the internet was like 110 because it was people who were naturally inclined to sit down at a dedicated computer. No casuals looking at their family vacation pictures. No brownoids doing shit for attention. Multiplayer games were also way more casual and relaxed because there were no eSports wannabes posturing to be a Twitch millionaire.

>>509221076 (OP)
The internet was better when it was a place you went to instead of a place you lived on constantly.

>Bad search engines, no social media, dial-up service
That was the best part, it wasn't mainstream and everyone wasn't fucking using it and shitting it up

>>509234404
Look at plenty of PC magazines of the 90s, you will see ads for "girls on film" on CD-ROM.

>>509234872
Social media is a containment zone for normies. It was Google ads and click scammers who ruined everything else.

>>509233471
It'll be like the bards tale mobile game. Once all the nostalgic boomers get it and play it for a week it's over.

>>509234404
I think they were actually mini discs, never really took off afaik.

>>509221076 (OP)
>no social media
you unironically say that was a bad thing?
neck yourself faggot/roastie zoomer
>Bad search engines
why did you need search engines? to suck cock and search results which amount to propaganda? you had directories and every website had tons of links

>>509235033
Built for 8" BFD.

>>509222568
amen
also no stupid cunts and roasties
if a chick was on the net she was either in the library or her parents were wealthy and raised her right

>>509221076 (OP)
Usenet was amazing

>>509235367
>was
iykyk

>>509235180
The true floppies. Good frisbee.

> go to the grocery store with mom
> pick out the cereal you want based on the toy/prize inside, not the taste
> get home and pour it all out to get the toy/prize
> mom is pissed, makes you eat it
> this cereal does not taste good, only got it for the toy/prize
> unsweetened Chex because Chex Quest PC game

>>509231546
>The Internet was destroyed the day the iPhone 1 released.
FTFY
also next year Obumbe became president

all the high fiber optic cable speeds in the world can never replace the SOVL of the old slow as fuck world wide web

>>509221076 (OP)

>Bad search engines

Nononono. Back then, you could actually find stuff with search engines. You could search for very specific stuff and find it. Nowadays Google is just a censored-to-death advertisement engine.

>no social media

And that was a bad thing, because...? The Internet was full of thriving communities, forums and blogs. Nowadays we have basically five containment zones full of boomers and NPCs.

>dial-up service

Go to a fucking video rental if you want to watch a movie.

I would trade current Internet with old Internet any day.

Early 200s online gaming was so fucking good. Miss the days of old cs, candystandarcade, and newgrounds

>>509232819
>>509232891
IDK there were huge gaps in what you could find online in the 90s and early 2000s, but if you found something about the subject it was usually easy enough to make your way to some very good website on the subject.

Today it's usually possible to find something about everything, but there is no reliable way to get from the wikipedia or reddit level stuff to find a very good website or forum about it.

>>509221313
>Hardly anyone used it in the 90s. It wasn't a common thing


Ahahah, is the UK really that poor or is this another larping zoomer?

Literally everyone knew about and had access to the internet in the 90s, hell, the fucking .com bubble happened in the 90s.

By the late 90s we had cable internet and 56k was already considered grandma internet.

>>509234874
This

OG google was amazing

>>509235541
telling your mom she can't use the phone because you're online. kek

>>509223290
I've been here since 95-96, when the first internet cafe opened in my town.
CERN was the usual early site to "visit".

>>509221076 (OP)
Still had porn, which is 99% of the reason why we use the internet.

>>509234404
>You werent selling models online for profit
But I was.
My first paycheck at 16 was an international wire transfer from Japan for some low-poly models I did on commission.

>>509235580
Keep the speed and eject all non-Whites and women. That's what you really want.

>>509235922
people unironically used the internet for more degenerate shit than porn. remember Rotten dotcom?

>>509231958
JavaScript is not the problem, it's the fact that nobody fucking builds anything in JavaScript, it's just really anally retentive arranging of components and code from a library.

Websites are slow as shit because retards will load a whole car just because they want the indicator clicking sound.
These illiterate retards make 90k btw

>>509236077
Checked. Shitty, bloated frameworks on top of shitty, bloated libraries sitting on top of lower level shitty, bloated libraries.

I made a norn club in 1996

>>509236041
b0g and ogrish were way better. I was redpilled about the horrors of the world way before everyone around me, and it didn't even bother me. I found it interesting, but after a while gore is just gore and the shock factor is gone.

>>509236077
>These illiterate retards make 90k btw
indeed
if you make a website that needs 20 megabytes transferred in order to be able to read 2 paragraphs of information you deserve to be jeeted off to india and banned from the internet

this is probably why they made the guy inventing RSS kill himself in jail (and google promptly discontinued its RSS reader which btw was the only usable one at that time)

>>509235922
>tryna fap to those 15 second sample clips on random porn sites

>>509234904
>That was the best part, it wasn't mainstream
my pet thesis about dead internet is that it began with google succeeding.

the internet -and later the web- was an anarchists wet dream, a digital wild-wild-west.
and than more than anything else (aol, altavista etc) it was google that managed to successfully consolidate /something/ about it. and it didn't seemed like it was a big deal at the time, so what if google funneled more than 95% of all searches, what's the big deal right? the internet was still flourishing. and sure, it was only searches, but it was the first thing about the internet that became *consolidated*.

and THAT was the beginning of the internet death. the internet didn't die when it happens obviously, but it was the start, first blood if you may. the beginning of the end.

>>509236208
I spent ages trying to figure out wtf I was doing wrong in Creatures2 that my norns didn't thrive, but I never figured it out

>>509221076 (OP)
No centralization.
No shit loads of normies.
No speech policing.
Forums specifically targeting your interests.
Chance to actually get to know with people personally and irl. Most of people i know still today i met on old forums.
Better design.
No annoying JS bullcrap.
ads were few if any and they weren't bothering as now.

Such a good times... current internet is just a meme of it former self.

>>509235828
I had zero problems with that. Now hiding the porn I downloaded on my parents PC... that was a different matter...

>>509236451
waiting 5 minutes to dl that titty pic only to have your mom pick up the fucking phone 4 minutes in.

>>509221076 (OP)
excellent bait. now this thread will be repeated ad infinitum

>>509236490
My computer couldnt run creatures 2 :'(

>>509236487
>it was the first thing about the internet that became *judaic*
FIFY schlomo

>>509221076 (OP)
Internet back then was Creative and innovative. Now it’s just a longer arm of the globohomo selling your stuff or brainwashing you. The same goes for YouTube and 4chan. Normalshits like you OP ruin everything because you and your kind are niggercattle

>get first mobile phone in 2004
>Use WAP internet, billed per kB
>Find perfectly looping, low bitrate gif of tits or penetration
>Cost 6 quid in data to download a few of them
Most expensive wank of my life boys

>>509221076 (OP)
Back then it was mostly smart people online

>>509221076 (OP)
>no social media
a paradise

>>509221076 (OP)
back in the day, the internet was anonymous. That is awesome as it gets in my book

>>509236858
and an epic assfuck

>>509223290
>No one used the the 95' to 2001 internet except office workers retard.
I had access to the internet in ky own home back in 1998, and my parents weren't office workers who needed it for anything. Plenty of middle class parents (mine included) singed up for it because they wanted their kids to be able to access the internet in order to help them with school.

>>509236496

The internet as a whole has gone through the so called enshittification.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification

First it was made for users, then it was made for advertisers and then it was made for the owner kikes. Usually, when talking about the degradation of internet spaces, in this last stage the users will escape into another internet space, but what could we do now when the whole Internet is ruined?

>>509221076 (OP)
Old internet was based. Before Facebook and Twitter and woke shit ruined everything. I used to make friends and meet up with women to fuck all the time, and eventually met my wife on a website that no longer exists. Entire sections of online communities were gutted between 2010 and 2014. I remember CBR turned into a complete communist safe space, deleting their original message board and banning people who weren't far-leftists from their new board, all because some mentally ill woman they hired who had a Tumblr account decided that Wondergirl's breasts were too big on a comic book cover, and if you liked her breasts you might be a pedophile, or a rapist, or both. At one point numerous articles were written by CBR's owners calling their own members rapists for disagreeing with the Tumblr woman.

>>509236771
>i must npc
i know
the urge is irresistible

the point of being a rebel online is to hangout with all the other rebels, and along the way do everything you can to fit in because that's the point. if you don't fit in you're not really a rebel are you.

that's what being a rebel is about - fitting in

>>509230915
every site has to download a 10 MB react.js or node.js to function properly today

>>509221076 (OP)
You are right.
The user experience of the internet of the 90s was objectively inferior to the internet of today.

Here's the difference though.
The internet of the 90s wasn't trying to replace reality the way the modern internet is. The internet of the 90s merely supplemented reality and reality itself was better then, so when viewed as a package experience the internet of the 90s is superior, because life overall was superior. The internet genuinely was not serious business, it was just a place where niche hobbyists exchanged information anonymously. Now its a brainwashing panopticon that conducts round the clock psychological warfare on the people who use it, and people have almost no choice but to use it as more and more of your actual identity is cloned onto it in real time.

>>509222063
I miss the old FuckedCompany.com forums that allowed anonymous posting way back in like 2000. I didn't find this place until around 2008, making me an official newfag.

>>509236365
Everyone was watching Faces of Death videos on VHS in the 80s. Gore porn existed long before the internet.

>>509235367
>Usenet was amazing
Chan greentext quote notation comes from Usenet

>>509237207
Nothing.
I get all my news from 4chan and that's it.
I used to watch YouTube a lot but now it's like half of content is gone because it had something that JewTube kikes didn't like and the other is normies.

Search engines where unironically better, even in the 90s. Now they are all ten pages of paid ads followed by propaganda. It's nearly impossible to find anything outside of mainstream news sources. Even pre 2015 you used to be able to find specific 4chan threads if you knew what you where looking for. Now it's a 50/50 shot the 4chan landing page even shows up in the results at all, no matter what you search for.

>>509221076 (OP)
fuck off retarded zoomer
you have no fucking idea what is was like

>>509221925
>gif loading, it's gonna be cool!
>GIF ANIMATES!
>!!!INTERNET EXPLORER CAN CACHE THE GIF SO IT LOADS INSTANTLY NEXT TIME!!!

The joy of a 10 year old me experiencing this in ogame when loading skins...

>>509221076 (OP)
There weren't any pajeets on the internet in the 1990s

>>509236759
I hope it sticks
was tried with 90s nostalgia threads but they all died because muh zoomer fag pride
yet tech seems to resonate with these satanists (and also political... the underpinning of politics, if you will)

>>509221076 (OP)
Its called nostalgia. Take it from a 90s kid, things were fucking boring back then.

>>509221076 (OP)
have fun talking about your photos on social media with your grandmother

>>509237244
Cut the smarmy bullcrap. /pol/ itself is YOUR echo chamber where a disproportionate amount of Israelis behind vpn (we conclusively know this since the hack) sit and larp as goys and call each other names behind your goy aliases. And spam porn. Thats what YOU turned this place into. Your group. That you are here to fit into.
You are the last being in the universe that should ever accuse anyone else of groupthink. You are the most 1 or 0 NPC of them all.

>>509221076 (OP)
i only got internet in 98-99, back then there wasnt shit to do.
I downloaded a guide from i think IGN, a walkthrough for FF8 that was written in ASCII, and i used to play flash games on Newgrounds.
Google was a game changer, you could look up porn and get viruses all day with Google.
I downloaded a porn video and got a browser hijack in the process, thankfully I knew how to do a system restore from safe mode or i would have been fucked.
We got Bonzi buddy to send our data back to some Romanian faggot who liked getting bare backed by his Russian boyfriend, and eventually I got addicted to Everquest.

>>509238154
>>509238191
Samefag

>>509237207
I think there’s going to be a return to a system like the BBS where spaces are walled off and invite only, like most real discussion forums are getting to be now. But they will be more than just forums.

>>509221076 (OP)
there were no browns on the internet back then because it was not streamlined, so it was difficult for them to use. 4chan also used to be too hard for browns to use until they added the catalog and quick replies. the easier a product is to use the lower quality people you're going to have using it.

>>509237958
you were not a "90s kid" you were a "loser"
>omg tiktok so fun also lgbt woohoo
once a loser always a loser

>>509238238
I will just let you believe that then, Israeli behind vpn.
Bringing up the hack exposing this shithole for what it is really stings for you. I can tell.

>>509238390
This. 4chan literacy in 2003-2006 was an uncommon thing by internet standards. It's no wonder rules 1 and 2 existed, to keep out the undesirables.

They had web rings. You could find a website without knowing the address or deal with publicity gatekeeping of the first corporate search engines. GeoCities and such hardly paid attention to who or what started a website. You could ask someone with related content to give you a link and like minded people would start web rings and when you went to another site you could find they are in more than one web ring. You could have a website with illegal or morally questionable content and not get caught for years before a webhosting company or government demanded it be shut down. Search engines are sucking again like in the mid to late 90's but worse in the number of search suggestions they limit you to. I don't know why people don't go back to having webrings for small sites. They all use established social media to make a pseudo webpage can ban you for unrelated bullshit reasons. Not designed for archiving easily accessible from a website. The old web hosting company system only banned you for related content. If you have a neo Nazi website and a website about a hobby you enjoy that is non controversial, only the Nazi website got banned if someone noticed it.

>>509221363
I've had a floppy disk since the 90s.

>>509238751
There are pills for that, anon

>>509238154
>i'm butthurt
ikr
you like totally the real victim here

>>509221313

My country was a total shithole back in 1990s, and yet even here Internet cafe were widespread and dirt cheap already in 1997. As a kid I participated in launch party of Quake 2, and this wasn't my first visit there.

Now, home Internet wasn't widespread here until around 2000. But shortly after it became also affordable for a flat rate. People were already casually reading Internet news by the time of 9/11.

I remember the early days of 4chan and how I found it using a website called Hentaiquest, which was run by some artist named Sirkowski, and I found out on there about this new place at the time, because an artist named Zone who was being posted all over on other sites was also being posted on 4chan. So I popped over and never left.

>>509232880
Mine came with that pinball space cadet game. Also played the shit out of age of empires.

>>509224617
The racist websites were harder to find but could be found if you knew where to look. Most mods did not tolerate it on the larger websites. Easier to police it when there are only a few users. Wasn't a big fan just wanted to know how a few clicks away it was from normal websites. Most Neo Nazis lack common sense even if they are right about a few things.

>>509221076 (OP)
>The Internet looks like it sucked in the 90s. Bad search engines
Stopped reading here.

>>509238298

The problem is that glowniggers and (((reporters))) will infiltrate every space where badspeech happens, and they will murderously ruin it, and if anything else doesn't work, they will insert pedo shit there and instantly get it closed. However, usually they don't need to do that. They just expose the closed group in the evening TV news, badmouth how awful it was, cancel the responsible or visible guys and that's it. I have seen many such procedures, like some closed group for thousands of policemen where they can talk freely ruined after some libshit woke woman infiltrated in.

>>509221076 (OP)
>90s internet
>everything's on IRC channels, altavista, Startpage and AOL
>everyone's social in person in real life, while sometimes bantering on a Quake 3 multiplayer server
>the internet made noises to let you know it was doing something like a useful friend
>websites were simple HTML, easy to build, easy to run, effortless to set up for noobs and function over form
You're damned right the internet was awesome back in the day.
The only two things that sucked about it were that your mother or sister can kill your connection to call family or friends (and fucking will, go fuck yourself Timmy) and that those 100kb jpgs cost a fortune to download. 10 megabytes of datacap, effectively.
That's also why sites were so basic, and why broadband cable internet became essential.
But besides those early tech teething problems, it was awesome.

I had a friend in 1993 explaining to me email
I thought it was dumb
It made no sense to me that somebody would be turning on a computer just to see if they have mail when there are telephones and letter mail so readily available.
It was a technology that I pictured imploding in a couple of years
BetaMax recorders was where it was at and a worthy financial investment in my mind

>>509221076 (OP)
The internet was great in the 90's since it was only white guys, I learned a lot.
Now it's just reposted garbage by 80 IQ retard spammers.

>>509238667
I still have dreams about abandoning ICANN and all their corporate shit, declaring domain names completely irrelevant, and populating an internet based entirely on forced trust with 0 built in verification where content is all that matters. No accounts, no https.

>>509237476
TOTSE was started in 1989. iykyk

>>509238390
There were browns pretty much from the start. I painstakingly downloaded subbed dbz episodes on dial-up in 98. The uploader was DaBlackGoku. It was rough for everyone.

>>509239248
I never met a non-white online until the 2010s.

>>509239407
exactly

>>509239163

It was awesome because it was way less brainrot.
You couldn't have viral videos of retards crawling in stores or swallowing gasoline when you were lucky that you downloaded a 100 kb picture.
People used the Internet because they needed something, not to mindlessly scroll and absorb the rot.

>>509239081

However, as that was time before smartphones and normie/pajeet infestation of Internet, the average IQ was like 20 points higher online than what it's now. The racist nationalist forum I found in my youth (Suomen Sisu) blew my mind, it was like an academic club for highly intelligent racists to discuss stuff and meme together. It was an intoxicating place. It was what formed the basis of my political views.

>>509236077
It’s because browsers are a mess. You’ll have to support gorillions of versions because many niggers out there still used IE9. So you end up loading countless polyfills. You cannot even let a pure IE9 webpage run on modern browsers because they have deprecated and removed or renamed lots of functions. And then you have browser which do not fully support all JS. It’s a fucking mess that’s why people flee into frameworks

>>509239381
There was a website called DaBlackGoku back in the day, that featured a lot art of what if DBZ featured black characters instead. I wasn't sure if it was a joke or not.

>>509239157
the fact that reddit is basically the only forum anymore is a travesty especially with the fact that reddit threads are always at the top of search engines. the only subs on reddit that get a reasonable amount of useful content are all moderated by like 10 people who moderate 5000 other subs, and most of the mods are jews and trannies. I genuinely don't understand how almost every single high volume reddit board is full of trannies, even ones that have nothing to do with them, and of course one of the rules is always specifically no transphobia, which is its own rule. Then there's an entirely separate rule for "no hate speech (racism/sexism/xenophobia)".

Trannies can't control the narrative on 4chan, which is why they organize discord raids to spam CP, which they conveniently already have saved for some reason.

>>509239407
Was about to say this. I miss the pre-iphone, pre-OLPC days.

>>509239407

There were Blacks, Asians and Latinos on early 4chan way before 2010. However they were of the nerdy type and were really on the level. People back then were racist only in ironic sense.

>>509239479
That's fair, I hadn't considered that.

>>509221076 (OP)
Having internet in the 90's was like having a gym membership or something. If you had it, you were a sucker for not doing it for free at school. Even then, we just looked up urban legends and song lyrics.

>>509221076 (OP)
It was a pleb filter for imbeciles like (You).

>>509239643
>People back then were racist only in ironic sense.
Funny how even ironic racism has some roots in reality, considering when the actual browns and jeets got online, those same exact people became unironically racist.

>>509232605
I can only imagine the bliss of being one of the 50 people who would check a university's semi-private BBS in 1988 and slow-chat with legit professors about the effects the human genome project will have on eugenics progress through a 1200baud modem, and reading them say "it'll improve racism of course but don't mention it" and shit like that

>>509239453
The internet can still be that way.
Just gotta avoid normies like the plague.

>>509239643
The black guy with the timestamp who was asked if he was black, put on a glove and said no

We actually had a decent computer labs when I was a kid in school. Learned from greenscreen floppy disks all the way to writing website code. I'm right at that point where we grew up at the same time computers and the internet were really being advanced and pushed for everyone.

>>509239586
reddit is the only place I know to search to maybe get a human nonshill archived answer for non-tech questions and even then i have to sort through human advertisements and idiots. I am open to nonlethal suggestions.

>>509239682
don't listen to him, he's just making himself marketable because all the database and php jobs were taken
running client side shit is the death of the internet, as it's proven by 99% of smartphone apps being a browser bundled with some shit

>>509232525
>The big draw was that you got to be anonymous everywhere online. It wasn't until Facebook came round that people began to feel comfortable putting their real name online.
It's funny seeing people on facebook get assblasted now about anonymous posting like we weren't all posting shit under screennames like xX_Cr3stf4ll3N_Xx in forums throughout middle school.

>>509232124
Yahoo chat Arts and Entertainment custom rooms were the high point of online roleplay.

>>509232182
NetZero?

>>509223290
34 here and it's amazing how wrong you are. Hell the internet went sour in 2007 and you even got that wrong

>>509239586

Is this caused because of Google using its monopoly of searches to funnel everyone to Reddit?

Forums were once ubiquitous and anyone could easily found one for free. I myself have did that once that with almost zero computer skills. Why did the active forumsphere and blogosphere die? I mean, the big normie social media giants like Faceberg can attract lots of users, but it's still a very different experince, not really a good replacement.

Also notice: Forum were anonymous. Millennials prefer anonymity and forums were a millennial thing. Forums were killed by non-anonymous social media with the help of boomers and zoomers, who both don't understand anonymity. Nowadays our last anonymous millennial fortress are the chans.

>>509239856

No, it was really ironic. 4chan was the oasis of free speech so people just traded slurs for shits and giggles.
The actual racism arrived somewhere around 2014, together with genuine retards that later became the core of the MAGA.

Women and poor jeets couldnt use the internet easily, it was fantastic

>>509221076 (OP)
There's a lot of room between the 90's and now. Almost 40 years you fucking jackass.

>>509240039
>running client side shit is the death of the internet
You are a retarded nigger. Client side is great because I don’t have to provide a huge fucking server or a cluster to render shit. It offloads that to the client and makes it cheaper to run a server and a database.

>>509240230
>2014
Around then is when the stormfront guys invaded and we got btfo'd so hard constantly we went from libertarian to at least racial determinists. But yes before around then we said slurs just for fun.

>>509221925
I really miss the the buttons on the taskbar to open each application in that style. So much comfier than app icons they use today

>>509240217

Reddit became dominant because monopoly is the natural consequence of competition without oversight. There was a Darwinian race between forums, blogs and le plebbit and the latter won because of its centralized nature. It's way easier to used one website and then switch between interests with the same handle, than to bother with forums.

>>509239643
I remember when 4chan began, there was stuff like Stormfront being posted, but people were larping and joking, pretending to be racist, then lots of new people started showing up several years in and it stopped being ironic. The big point of no return was the Trayvon Martin case and how the media was so openly antagonistic toward white people and promoting black nationalism. So then when you showed up on /pol/ everyone was now no longer just larping and it was spilling out into every board.

>>509240379
>provide a huge fucking server or a cluster to render shit
like that's a problem in the day of proxies like cloudflare etc.
nigger

I would rape OP just to get back to the 90s for a single day.

>>509223290
sorry that you grew up poor

>>509231628
Just find them an archive.org site that is old. They will get a 2000's internet simulator with just a few extra broken links. Link chains to so many websites and find stuff they don't want you to know about without even trying like you have to do now. None of this safe algorithm shit that decreases your chance of seeing it or having to read the comments section to find a forbidden truth link. Though I admit the best internet was around 2010. Had the perfect balance of old style sites for computer experts and social media for people who are bad at html coding but knew a great deal about the topic. Unfortunately the hobby computer experts stopped archiving important stuff by the best fact experts who went around them just posing on social media that gets buried under new content 5 to 10 years down the line. Before they would work together making the best webpages. Then dumb users started staying on the same few large websites.

>>509221076 (OP)
you are such a fucking faggot and you MUST kill yourself immediately

the internet was perfection until the brown menace ruined it all

>>509232880
>and had many an online game of total annihilation and C&C.

Ah yes I played total annihilation on TEN, IRC and via ICQ. I remember the alien Mr Bandwidth doing his rapping face animation when he determined your connection speed.

>>509240217
>Why did the active forumsphere and blogosphere die?
because everything could be consolidated on a fairly easy to use website. as for anonymity, most of the people on the internet used to be adult men who could very easily be pedos, so it was a bad idea to put any identifiable information online. nowadays everyone has an online presence as young as 10 and not having one is the weird part to others. pedos today conduct themselves on closed invite only communities. back then they didn't even have to do that.

>>509221076 (OP)
All those things you mentioned made virtual reality much less immersive than it is today, which reduced its weight on everyone's lives. People lived in the perfect equilibrium of virtual reality and actual reality. For that reason alone the tech landscape of the 90s was 1000x superior to the current tech landscape.

>>509221076 (OP)
Back then only middle/upper class Americans Europeans and Asians had a computer let alone the internet and everyone knew the internet and real life were separate things
The potential of the internet was squandered and then weaponized. AI will go the same route. I hate the internet desu

>>509240430
>gookmoot seething

>>509240676
>japanese 10% of internet users
>none of them speak engrish
oh the humanity

>>509240860
>it thinks I'm mad
Your reading comprehension is absolute dogshit. Kill yourself.

>>509240813
>>509240217
facebook groups with "proper" moderation took over

>>509240476
if you are competing over normies, sure.
i knew one or two php forum site owners, and back in the day the 2 options were: placate to normies for higher traffic or keep it tighter at the cost of letting the forum rot if there isn't enough fresh blood to replace the lost users.

many niche forums didn't enjoy the benefits of eternal september

90s Internet was peak:
• IQ barrier
• Few women
• Lots of cool independent web sites with little moderation
• You could look up technical instructions instead of having to watch some slow low IQ video
Take me back!

>>509221313
>Hardly anyone used it in the 90s
Stfu, zoomer

>>509229759
>Being informed actually seemed easier pre-internet before billions of people were connected with each other. The most nuclear red pills I have ever gotten is from stuff written or published before 1995. I think this notion that the internet broke down barriers and made everyone more informed and enlightened is faulty. I may even argue that the internet caused the exact opposite to happen. It made people more apathetic if anything. It seems as if people before the internet were more diligent and responsible with information. Now someone can just telegraph something on social media and billions of mouthbreathers will pick up on it and spin it in a myriad dumb ways until the well is not just poisoned but radiactive.
retardation for everyone to see

>>509223290
we were poor and still had internet in 98

>>509221076 (OP)
>The Internet looks like it sucked in the 90s.
It did. The golden age of the internet started with broadband and ended with smartphones.

>>509240843
>The potential of the internet was squandered and then weaponized
it was commercializes first
weaponized for politics came later

>>509241230

You need to compete for normies, otherwise whatever forum or discord server you are doing will wither and die. User attrition is a normal thing and you will either replenish your userbase of end up with a dead website.

>>509229759
going on the internet used to be a bit of a commitment. with dial up you couldn't just leave your browser open all day, so you had to know what you wanted before logging on. nowadays people don't even bother remembering anything because they can just look it up on their phones in 5 seconds.

>>509221076 (OP)
internet nowadays is soulless corporate slop and gay

>>509236487
Kinda yeah, I never needed google to find interesting things though, it was a way to find information quicker but to explore forums and join conversations about pretty much anything, was what the internet was at.
Now there is only echo chambers to enforce your specific view and gatekeep others out and open dialogues is dead and with that the internet died. I didn't mind having my opinion challenged as that was normal outside but then the echo chamber fallacy spread to real life and suddenly you can't think or do anything without getting a label for it that just tells everyone around what to think.
Their minds are dead just as the internet is.

>>509241273
also most people today are "we are on the internet because the internet bro"
back then if you didn't have some hobby or weren't passionate about something, you had no business on the 'net
hence all those "it's just '90s nostalgia bro" faggots and "nobody used the internet" autists who couldn't be bothered to visit a library or a net cafe
>>509241527
yeah, if you followed tech news, you could see that from a point on every innovation was instantly snapped up (most often by yahoo!)

somebody could make an /oldinternet/ general if willing and link the bread

>>509224578
Lol it was all dudes, hahahaha
I started in 1995 from Mexico and yes it suck, you had to use partially downloaded gif to do the needful.
And yes now also sucks but bc corpo fags

>>509236487
one thing to remember is that when you googled something, you could basically click "next page" indefinitely. nowadays it will say "found 20 billion results" but it will stop scrolling after like 50 results. this could be for any number of reasons, but it's really not hard to just believe they're intentionally suppressing stuff, probably political, that they don't want people to see.

>>509234073
>>required intelligence and interest in computers to even get on

Not only that, you would also be willing to pay for a 0.5 megabit ADSL connection. 10x faster than a 56K modem, such tech was a major upgrade, and it also costed less per month than using dial up. And you would have to buy a computer too. Normies weren't interested in that.

>>509242033
also "similar results omitted"
bro I googled a very specific thing that I forgot the address of and you put it in "similar results omitted" while having nothing in common with the 2-3 results you are showing me?!

>>509232605
Eeeee, no
That's why you had a local office to manage the paper trail, maybe to archive...

>>509232880
This people tend to forget it was the "personal computer", so yea they unleashed the capitalist fags, to buy "cheaply" our own chains

>>509232605
>Prior to the Internet, you had to actually haul stacks of papers on airplanes or on boats to get massive amounts of information across the world.
don't take it up the ass so hard Mohhamed-Pierre LaFagotte, you could carry a hard disk in your briefcase and a letter from the notary and that's that

>>509242033

This is what it means Google being censored to death.

There is demand for a new search engine, which would be just like Google back then. But it should be presented for the normies via some pre-existing online space to attract any users. Just put a search bar on the top of 4chan and make it sure that everyone knows it's NOT google.

Welp I suposse it wasn't all that bad

>>509239157
I had a weird technical problem that my internet would sometimes get cut off in the 2000's even when I can cable. everyone thought I was lying on the internet or in real life over the phone when I told gaming friends who thought I was reliable why I couldn't to my end of the deal in an item exchange for an hour and quick lets get it done before they call back. Nor when a family member needed directions or information and wouldn't fucking hang up for a minute so I could give them the information. "But it didn't happen before!" I had to tell my brother that he will just have to stay lost. Then when he finally came across my house near where he was going I said "Oh good you can hang up your damn cell phone and talk to me in person while it look it up." He was angry as hell I was so close to finding it for him then my other brother started calling me demanding to know why I kept hanging up on him. Only then did he believe me.

>>509221076 (OP)
It kind of did yes.
You don't what also you didn't have on it ?
Censorship. No mods. No jannies. No reddit, facebook and all that crap. No everything behind a paywall.
Just geek forums, lolies, viruses and dc++. You needed patience. A medium res porn picture would take several minutes to load.
The real way it got better is that its cheap and omnipresent now. The rest is crap

anyone remember Bianca's Smut Shack? it was /b/ before the chans existed

>>509243255
>No mods. No jannies.
indeed
the worst you had it was some hippie telling you that saying bad things ain't right and you should say this and this in order to transmit the same message
good times